[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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          I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 
          MR. COX? HERE. MR. PHILLIP PUGH? HERE. MR. HAMILL? HERE. 
          MR. FORD PUGH? HERE. MR. WEBB? HERE. OKAY, AT THIS TIME, MS. PUDLOW IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND I'LL FOLLOW WITH THE PLEDGE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST LIFT OUR NATION UP TO YOU IN PRAYER FOR ALL OF THE MANY CONFLICTS GOING AROUND THE WORLD TODAY. WE PRAY FOR OUR MILITARY MEMBERS, LORD GOD, AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE PRAY FOR ALL CITIZENS. MAY WE ALL HAVE WISDOM AND UNITY, LORD. AND WE ALSO PRAY FOR OUR FIRE AND EMS AND POLICE FIRST RESPONDERS IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY. IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT WEEK, LORD. WE PRAY THAT YOU'D LIFT THE LOAD. AND WE ALSO PRAY FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY FAMILIES WHO ARE FACING LOSS THIS WEEK, LORD. THAT YOU'D BE WITH US AND THEM, AND THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US WISDOM THIS EVENING FOR THE BUDGET AND CLARITY. WE ASK THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME. 
          AMEN. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY, AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION. THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, QUICK QUESTION. DO WE NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE SECOND CLOSED SESSION? WE DO. I'LL WITHDRAW MINE. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIR I MAKE A. I WANT TO ADD A CLOSED SESSION PERSUADANT TO VIRGINIA. CODE 2.2-3711A1 FOR DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE APPOINTMENT, ASSIGNMENTS, AND PERFORMANCE OF A SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE OF THE PUBLIC BODY. I FURTHER MOVE THAT SUCH DISCUSSION SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, AND I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE END OF THE MEETING. OKAY, Y'ALL HEARD THE MOTION WITH THE ADDITION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL. MR. PHILLIP PUGH? YES. MR. HAMILL? YES. MR. FORD PUGH? YES. MR. WEBB? YES. MR. COX? YES. OKAY, 
          [B. Closed Session]
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO... TO HOLD A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 2.2-3711A.A. 
          FOR THE CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING LEGAL ADVICE ON EARLY VOTING IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY, I'VE GOT A SECOND IN TWO PLACES. YOU'VE GOT IT ON THE LEFT. BOTH PEWS, SO CHOOSE ONE. LEFT'S GOT IT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MR. HAMILL? YES. MR. FORD PEW? YES. MR. WEBB? YES. 
          MR. COX? YES. MR. PHILLIP PEW? YES. OKAY, WE'LL BE IN CLOSED SESSION. I GO TO CLOSED SESSION. 
          AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CERTIFY THE CLOSED SESSION. 
          MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE THE OPEN SESSION AND CERTIFY, PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 2.2-3712, THAT ONLY... 
          PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS AND IDENTIFIED IN A MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED. ARE YOU HERE TO MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SCOTT. SCOTT. MR. HAMILL. 
          SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MR. FORD PUGH. YES. 
          MR. WEBB. YES. MR. COX. YES. 
          MR. PHILLIP PUGH. YES. MR. HAMILL. YES. SAME. FIRST ITEM 
          [C. WORK SESSION]
ON THE AGENDA IS THE RESOLUTION OF OPPOSITION OF EARLY VOTING. MR. KINGSBURY. GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISORS. LIKE YOU SAID, THE FIRST ITEM IS THIS RESOLUTION TO OPPOSE EARLY VOTING. WE'VE BEEN ADVISED, WE'VE BEEN TAKING, EVERYBODY'S BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE COURTS. AND BASICALLY... 
          THE COURT JUST DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD NOT TAKE ANY ACTION. 
          THE SUPREME COURT DECIDED THEY WOULD NOT TAKE ANY ACTION UNTIL AFTER THE VOTE TAKES PLACE. 
          FURTHER, MOST LEGAL OPINIONS ARE THAT AT THIS TIME... UNTIL THE COURT RULES THAT ANY SUCH 
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RESOLUTION WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE. SO IT'S JUST RESOLUTION IS AT YOUR PLEASURE. BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T TAKE ANY ACTION JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING NEGATING ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY TO YOU GUYS. IN THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION. 
          THAT'S AWAITING. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. I GUESS WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO DISPOSE OF THIS, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT CAN BE BOUGHT BACK UP AT A LATER TIME. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? MR. CHAIR, HEARING NONE, I MAKE A MOTION TO DISPENSE OF IT. I HAVE A MOTION OF A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. 
          FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MR. WEBB? YES. MR. COX? YES. MR. HAMILL? YES, MR. PHILIP YOU YES, MR. FORD P YES, RIGHT. 
          WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, AND THAT'S DISCUSSION OF THE PLANNING FEE REVENUE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATIONS, MR. GRAVES ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN COX AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          OF COURSE, THE BUDGET WAS PREPARED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. HE'S NOT AVAILABLE THIS WEEK, SO I'M FILLING IN TO ASSIST HERE. IN GENERAL, I'LL JUST KIND OF INTRODUCE WHAT I'M AWARE OF ON THIS, AND I THINK I'VE GOT BETSY AVAILABLE AS WELL, SO WE CAN TAG TEAM AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          BUT IN GENERAL, YOU'VE GOT THIS ITEM IN. YOUR AGENDA AND YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE DOCUMENTS ON BOARD, DOCS, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK VERY SIMILAR. ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT APPEARS IS RECOMMENDED COUNTY CODE REVISIONS RELATED TO PLANNING AND ZONING FEE SCHEDULE UPDATES. AND THAT IS A DOCUMENT SHOWING THE TEXT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THE COUNTY CODE IF YOU DO ACCEPT PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED FEE CHANGES. SO REALLY, THE DOCUMENT THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON IS THE SECOND ONE, THE RECOMMENDED UPDATES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING FEE SCHEDULE. YOU'LL KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT ONE BECAUSE THAT HAS SOME BLUE TEXT ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THE BLUE TEXT IS SOME NOTES ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL CHANGE AND RECOMMENDED CHANGE. AND THEN THE ONE YEAR, THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT IS THE ONE YEAR ESTIMATED IMPACT TO THE DEPARTMENT REVENUES. 
          AND THAT'S JUST A CONSERVATIVE ROUGH ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE LIKELY. IMPACT WOULD BE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL CHANGE. 
          THESE CHANGES ARE, ON A WHOLE, ESTIMATED TO RESULT IN APPROXIMATELY $13,500 ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WITH MOST OF THE ADDED REVENUE COMING FROM TWO CHANGES. THE FIRST ONE BEING A CORRECTION TO THE PLAT REVIEW FEE CALCULATION, WHICH WOULD UNIFY THE PLAT REVIEW FEES. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLATS, BUT THERE'S AND THERE WAS MULTIPLE FEET. THERE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY'S FEE SCHEDULE MULTIPLE FEES FOR THAT. THIS CHANGE WOULD UNIFY THEM UNDER, FOR THE MOST PART, UNDER A SINGLE PLAT REVIEW FEE. 
          REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S A SUBDIVISION PLAT OR A BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT, THE CURRENTLY A BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT IS SUBJECT TO A LOWER FEE. EVEN THOUGH IT REQUIRES THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK FROM STAFF, AND THE STAFF REVIEW FOR THESE PLATS IS NOT LIMITED TO THE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. YOU ALSO INVOLVE SEVERAL OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND STATE AGENCIES. 
          IT USUALLY TAKES MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF REVIEW TO GET TO THE END OF A PLAT REVIEW BEFORE IT'S READY TO BE APPROVED. SO THAT ONE CHANGE WOULD BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY INTENDED TO BE, AND NONE OF THESE CHANGES ARE INTENDED TO BE, YOU KNOW, HEY, LET'S INCREASE. FEES, IT'S HAVING THEM REFLECT THE MODERN REALITY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF THE KIND OF WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. SO THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE DOING THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLAT REVIEWS. IT NO LONGER MAKES SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST IN OUR OPINION, THAT THAT FEE IS A LOWER FEE FOR BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT. 
          THE NEXT THING THAT... WHAT AFFECTS THE REVENUE THE MOST IS THE ADDITION OR THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF A ZONING PERMIT REVIEW FEE, AND THAT FEE WOULD BE $25 PER ZONING PERMIT REVIEW. AND THAT 
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WOULD BE CHARGED ALONG WITH ALL OTHER BUILDING PERMIT FEES DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. SO PEOPLE ALREADY PAY THESE FEES UP FRONT WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, VARIOUS FEES UP FRONT WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. AND THIS IS PROPOSING THAT THIS WOULD BE ONE ADDITIONAL FEE. BECAUSE THE PLANNING, DEPART, PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT REVIEWS ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS, AND CURRENTLY THERE'S NO FEE CHARGE FOR THAT. THAT'S THAT SERVICE, PROVIDED THAT THAT BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS IS MANAGED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SO THIS PARTICULAR FEE WOULD JUST BE CHARGED DURING THEIR AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR PROCESS. AND WE'RE ONE OF THE REVIEWERS. AND MOST OF THE REST OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THE DOCUMENT ARE CLARIFICATION AND HOUSEKEEPING ORIENTED, WITH MINIMAL NET IMPACT TO HOW MUCH FEES ARE CHARGED TO APPLICANTS. I'LL HIGHLIGHT IF I'LL JUST TALK THROUGH A FEW OF THESE, YOU SEE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SINCE CROSSED OUT. 
          REALISTICALLY, NONE OF THE FEES ARE CHARGED IN 50 CENTS OR 25 CENTS OR ANY OF THAT, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO KEEP THAT DENOMINATION IN THERE ANYMORE. SO THAT'S A LOT OF THE RED. CROSS-OUT IS REALLY JUST TAKING OUT PENNIES, WITH NO CHANGE TO THE ACTUAL FEE BEING CHARGED. 
          SOME MORE OF THESE ARE WORDING CLARIFICATIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF PROCESSES. MANY NO APPLICATION LOOKS LIKE, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE. EVERY UM THING THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING IS DIFFERENT, EACH PROPERTY IS DIFFERENT, AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING ON THE PROPERTIES ARE DIFFERENT. SO THIS GETS INTO SOME SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S UNS. THERE'S UNCERTAINTY AROUND. IS THIS FEE APPLICABLE HERE, OR HOW DO YOU CALCULATE A PER ACRE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW DO YOU CALCULATE A PER ACREAGE FEE? WHEN YOU KNOW? IS THAT PER ACREAGE SHOWN ON THE ON THE DRAWING, IS THAT PER ACREAGE OF LAND DISTURBED, IS THAT PER ACREAGE OF SOME OTHER MEASUREMENT? SO THE ONE OF THE CHANGES IS TRYING TO CLEAR UP THAT QUESTION MARK THAT COMES UP. SO, AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE ARE WORDING CLARIFICATIONS. THERE IS A REMOVAL PROPOSED REMOVAL OF SEVERAL FEES FOR APPLICATION TYPES THAT ARE PART OF OTHER REVIEW PROCESSES. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF SOME FEES ON THIS FEE SCHEDULE. SOME EXAMPLES INCLUDE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHICH IS REVIEWED USUALLY AS PART OF A REZONING CASE. GETTING RID OF A FIRM MAP CONFIRMATION, THAT'S LOOKING IS A PARTICULAR PART OF A PROPERTY IN A FLOOD ZONE. THAT'S JUST A ROUTINE THING NOWADAYS. THAT INFORMATION IS ONLINE, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO CHARGE FOR THAT SERVICE. DMV COMPLIANCE. REVIEW GROUP HOME REVIEW AND IN-HOME DAYCARE REVIEW, THOSE WERE THOSE ARE ALREADY REALLY HANDLED THROUGH OTHER PROCESSES. SO AND THEY'RE ALMOST THERE'S A ZERO TO THREE OF THOSE A YEAR, SO THAT'S REALLY A NON. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE HOUSEKEEPING CLEANUPS. I'M ALMOST DONE. SO THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT AHEAD OF TIME HERE IS THE IT'S ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE DOCUMENT. 
          THE THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE THINGS THERE, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. THOSE ARE THE FEES. 
          PERTAINING TO EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL REVIEW, THOSE KIND OF REVIEWS ARE HANDLED BY A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND THEN SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT, THERE'S AN EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL REVIEWER. SO WE THINK THAT THOSE FEES SHOULD COME OUT OF THIS FEE SCHEDULE, JUST TO STEP BACK A BIT, ALL OF THE FEES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ARE IN CHAPTER 2 OF THE COUNTY CODE. CHAPTER 2 OF THE COUNTY CODE IS CALLED ADMINISTRATION. SO EVERY FEE IN THERE IS ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING, EXCEPT FOR THESE FIVE FEES. 
          AND THESE FIVE FEES, AGAIN, ARE HANDLED BY A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. SO WE THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE THAT THOSE WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THAT DURING THIS PROCESS, WHILE WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT EDITING THINGS. TAKE OUT OF THAT CHAPTER AND THEN PUT INTO THE... CHAPTER 38, WHICH IS THE ENVIRONMENT CHAPTER OF THE COUNTY CODE. AND THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENT CHAPTER IS WHERE THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL REGULATIONS ARE. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY JUST, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE FEES THAT PERTAIN TO THAT IN THE CHAPTER, THAT PERTAINS TO THAT. SO FOR ALL OF THESE CHANGES, ANYTHING THE BOARD ACCEPTS, BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE COUNTY CODE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A CODE AMENDMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OFFICE WOULD JUST HANDLE AS THROUGH THIS. BUDGET PROCESS YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SEPARATE THING THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU AUTOMATICALLY. SO THAT EXPLAINS WHY. THERE'S TWO 
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DOCUMENTS, ONE IS ABOUT WHAT THE FEE CHANGES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THEN THERE'S A DOCUMENT ABOUT WHAT, HOW, THE HOW. 
          THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A CODE OF COUNTY CODE AMENDMENT, SO THAT'S COVERED WHAT I HAD PREPARED TO SAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR. 
          HOW ARE THE RATES DERIVED? LIKE, DID WE DO GO OFF LIKE STATE RECOMMENDED OR IS IT IN STATE CODE? HEY, YOU CHARGE THIS? OR DID WE JUST KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT MAN-HOURS TAKES TO REVIEW CERTAIN THINGS AND PUT A DOLLAR FIGURE TO IT? SO SO IN THE WITH THESE CHANGES AGAIN IS WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF STRIKETHROUGHS ON HERE, IS WE DIDN'T GO, UM, WE DID. 
          AND I. PLANNING DIRECTOR BOB BALDWIN DID FOCUS ON THIS, AND HE DID LOOK AT OTHER LOCALITIES, AND EVERY LOCALITY IS DIFFERENT. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE MAP ON THIS STUFF, ON HOW THEY CALCULATE THEIR FEES. THERE IS NO STATE-MANDATED TYPE OF FEE. 
          IN SOME CASES, FOR SOME SPECIFIC THINGS, THERE ARE THINGS IN THE STATE CODE THAT SAY YOU CAN'T CHARGE MORE THAN THIS AMOUNT, AND NONE OF THESE AMOUNTS ARE MORE THAN THAT AMOUNT. SO THESE RECOMMENDED CHANGES ARE NOT ON THE... THIS IS NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UPDATING THE FEES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH HOW MUCH WORK IS DONE. 
          THAT'S A SEPARATE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO THINK IS WORTH LOOKING AT, BUT THAT WASN'T PART OF THIS. WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS MORE CLARIFICATION AND HOUSEKEEPING, AND THEN THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T CHARGE FOR THAT WE THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD BE CHARGING FOR. OTHER QUESTIONS? I GOT ONE. YES, SIR. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME THIS WAS? THIS WAS UPDATED OR LOOKED AT? YOU JUST ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. YOU SAID IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE, BASED ON THE DIFFERENT LOCALITIES. 
          YEAH, THESE FEES HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH HOW THEY HAVE BEEN FOR WELL OVER 10, 15, 20 YEARS. 
          I'M NOT REALLY CLEAR ON THE EXACT TIMING, BUT IT IS NOT ANY TIME RECENTLY. MANY OF THE FEES HAVE BEEN WHAT THEY ARE FOR A LONG TIME. THE EXAMPLE BEING THE ONE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING, ABOUT BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENTS, THAT'S BEEN $50 FOR DECADES. 
          YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT. TAKE THAT FOR WHAT YOU WILL. AND I WOULD JUST SAY ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE, AT THE TIME THAT THAT FEE WAS ESTABLISHED, THE CONCEPT OF A BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT WAS LITERALLY JUST MOVING A BOUNDARY LINE OVER. THAT WAS THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE WOULD JUST MOVE A BOUNDARY LINE. 
          BUT NOWADAYS, IT GETS MUCH MORE COMPLICATED. 
          YOU MIGHT START WITH THREE LOTS AND THEN YOU END UP WITH THREE TOTALLY DIFFERENT LOOKING LOTS. 
          AND THAT'S ALL OF THE BOUNDARY LINES MIGHT BE CHANGING. AND HE'S STILL CALLING THAT A BOUNDARY LINE. I THINK A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS FROM WHEN THE FEES WERE FIRST PUT INTO THE COUNTY CODE. MR. CHAIR, IS THERE A FEE SCHEDULE ALREADY IN CODE COMPLIANCE OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WITH THE LAND DISTURBANCE STUFF? I GUESS WHAT WE'RE DOING AWAY WITH HERE, THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT SET UP OVER THERE TO PAY THAT? YES, SIR. STAFF, WE MET AS A BUNCH OF STAFF MET ON THIS. AND LOOKED AT THAT, AND THERE IS A SEPARATE CHAPTER THAT HAS THE BUILDING, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FEES. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT WORDING, BUT THERE'S BASICALLY THREE CHAPTERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. ONE IS THIS CHAPTER 2 THAT ALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING FEES ARE IN, AND THEN THERE'S CHAPTER 38, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY FEES IN IT, AND THEN THERE'S, I'M NOT SURE OF THE CHAPTER NUMBER, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER CHAPTER OUT THERE THAT HAS THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS FEES. THAT'S A LONG FEE SCHEDULE THAT THEY HAVE. 
          SO THE FEES WE'RE DOING AWAY WITH THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE PICKING UP ARE CHARGING THE SAME AMOUNT FEE OF THE FEES, CORRECT? YEAH, NO CHANGE TO THEIR FEES. AND BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S DUPLICATED, SIR. SO THIS IS MORE OF A DISCUSSION, TAKING IT OUT OF THIS SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND MOVING IT OVER THERE, SO. GOTCHA. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING IS ANYBODY EXEMPT FROM THIS, LIKE NON-PROFITS IS THERE. OR LIKE A FARMER, OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, SAY, IF WE WANTED TO PROMOTE CONSERVING RURAL AGRICULTURAL LAND. IF SOMEBODY BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS OWNED RA, OR, I MEAN, RE OR R2, AND THEY WANTED TO CHANGE IT TO RA, DO THEY HAVE TO PAY THE FULL AMOUNT AND THINGS LIKE THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK INTO AS FAR AS AN ORDINANCE TO, MAYBE. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY NO, THERE'S NOTHING SET UP LIKE THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, THAT HAVE TO BE PUT INTO THE COUNTY CODE. OKAY, THAT'S ALL I GOT ON POLICY OF THE BOARD. OTHER QUESTIONS? KIND OF IN LINE WITH WHAT MR. PHILLIP HUGHES SAID, I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF VOTING ON THIS FEE SCHEDULE UNTIL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAD A LIKE FEE SCHEDULE IN THERE, WHATEVER. THEY DO HAVE A FEE SCHEDULE. I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED VERY CLEARLY BEFORE. 
          OKAY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THEY HAVE A FEE SCHEDULE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THOSE FIVE THINGS 
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ABOUT VERSION 7 AND CONTROLS SHOULD GO TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          OR TO THE CHAPTER 38, WHICH IS ABOUT ENVIRONMENT. AND WE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THOUGHT THAT CHAPTER 38 MADE SENSE IN THAT IT'S ABOUT EROSION AND SOIL CONTROL. 
          YOU COULD ALSO PUT IT INTO THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SCHEDULE AS WELL. 
          IT'S JUST REALLY, IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU COULD LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS, TOO. WE JUST WOULD RECOMMEND, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO US ANYWAY, THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, INSIDE OF ALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING FEES. 
          OKAY. NOW I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING IT TO CHAPTER 38 OR, OR THAT DEPARTMENT. BUT TO ADOPT THAT FIRST, MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE VERBIAGE FIRST, AND THEN FAST FOLLOW WITH THIS. 
          I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS ALREADY IN THE VERBIAGE. THAT THEY'RE ALREADY CHARGING FOR THESE FEES? SO THEY ARE ALREADY CHARGING THOSE THOSE FIVE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL FEES. THEY ARE, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY CHARGING THEM. SO THEY'RE JUST IN HIDDEN IN THERE WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING FEES. OKAY. 
          IN THE FEE SCHEDULE. GOTCHA. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE THINK THEY SHOULD MOVE. IT'S A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST NOT INSIDE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING STUFF, YOU KNOW. NOW, AND THAT WOULD BE AUTOMATIC WITH THE COUNTY CODE CHANGES. 
          WE WOULD BE AMENDING TWO CHAPTERS AT THE SAME TIME. SO YOU WOULDN'T END UP IN A PLACE WHERE YOU TAKE IT OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT... I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CONCERN WAS, THAT WE TAKE IT OUT, AND NEXT THING, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SOMEBODY WATCHING THIS MEETING. 
          SHOW UP AND DO 30 THINGS THAT WE EAT THE COST ON. I THINK THAT WAS THE CONCERN. WE'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT CONCERN, AND WE WOULD DO THIS IN A WAY WHERE THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS REVIEW SAYS IT'S USUALLY PART OF ANOTHER PROCESS. IS THERE A REQUIREMENT TO DO THAT IN ANY OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCES? GREAT QUESTION. NO, THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. THINGS WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO WORK WITH IF IT SAID, WHEN THOSE ARE REQUIRED. THEY ARE REQUIRED BY VDOT WHEN THERE IS A THRESHOLD OF A NUMBER OF TRIPS PER DAY. I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NUMBER. IT MIGHT BE 5,000 OR 2,000, AND THERE ALSO MIGHT BE SOME SPECIAL SCENARIOS. BUT EITHER WAY, WE RELY ON VDOT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN THE COUNTY CODE TO REQUIRE IT AT A DIFFERENT POINT. NOW, THAT SAID, DURING A REZONING, SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, WE WOULD NEED TO SEE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE COUNTY CODE. 
          AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD STILL NEED TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO SCOPE IT SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ANALYZING, WHAT WE NEED THEM TO ANALYZE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. IF VDOT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, BUT THE COUNTY WANTS TO REQUIRE IT ON A STANDARD SITUATION, THEN THAT. SITUATION SHOULD BE IN THE ORDINANCE SOMEWHERE. 
          OKAY, WE'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT AS PART OF OUR OTHER EXERCISE, DOING THAT AND THE FREQUENCY OF DOING THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD PLAN TO BRING FORWARD AT FUTURE UPDATES. OKAY, AND ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE SECOND DOCUMENT, IT'S GOT, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE SECOND DWELLING USE PERMIT. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING REZONING FEES PER ACRE. IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO IT PER DWELLING? OKAY, SECOND, DWELLING PERMITS OR REZONING FEES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SO LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY SUBDIVIDED INTO SMALLER PIECES OF PROPERTY. WE WOULD CHARGE THE FEE BY THE ACREAGE, RIGHT? AT THE TIME OF REZONING? CORRECT. RIGHT NOW, IN THE FEE SCHEDULE, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED ANY CHANGE. 
          IT'S A $1,050 BASE FEE FOR REZONING. AND THEN. 
          ACREAGE FEE ON TOP OF THAT BASE FEE. OKAY. IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT BEING DIFFERENTLY WITH THAT? THE QUESTION WAS, COULD WE LOOK AT IT AS A PER DWELLING INSTEAD OF A PER ACRE? THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING, YOU COULD. THE CHALLENGE OF THAT IS NOT EVERY REZONING INVOLVES RESIDENTIAL. SO IF IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL REZONING AND THE FEE SCHEDULE SAID THIS IS PER DWELLING UNIT, THEN THAT WILL TRIGGER THEM TO NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PROFFERS. SO THAT IT IS KNOWN HOW MANY DWELLING UNITS THERE WOULD BE. YOU COULD DO IT. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO AND EVALUATE HOW TO DO THAT, BUT YOU COULD DO THAT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST A COMMENT. I LIKE THE DWELLING IDEA. THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS THE OTHER THING. I THINK WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY WHERE WE'VE HAD DATA THAT'S BEEN FROM 2018 ON, SOME TRAFFIC NUMBERS FOR THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DOUBLE. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN MORE CIRCUMSTANCES THAN I 
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THINK WE HAVE BEEN. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. THIS WAS DISCUSSION ONLY. DO YOU NEED ACTION TONIGHT OR NO? WE DO NOT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE TO DISCUSSION OF THE FY2027 BUDGET PRIORITIES. MS. PUDLOW. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MR. KINGSBURY, SO THIS EVENING, I WANT TO CAVEAT AHEAD OF TIME. THIS WILL NOT BE A BRIEF BRIEFING, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST TO BE FAST AND EFFICIENT. 
          PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE MS. DRURY HERE, WHO WE ALL KNOW, IS OUR BUDGET GENIUS TO ASSIST WITH ANY ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL? AND SHE, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT, AS USUAL, THIS IS A BETSY LEGACY, BUT SHE HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB THIS YEAR, AND SO HAS HER TEAM. WITH OUR BUDGET AND THE REVIEWS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THAT HARD WORK. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING OVER BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR FY27 AND SOME OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION, AND THEN WE ARE GOING OVER THE BOARD INPUT AREAS FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL. BUT OBVIOUSLY NO DECISIONS THIS EVENING, JUST A BUDGET SCHEDULE HIGHLIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT MARCH 6TH. WE WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO TURN THEIR CHOICES IN, IF POSSIBLE, SO THAT MISS DRURY CAN TAKE THOSE AND PUSH THEM INTO CALCULATIONS. 
          TO UPLOAD THEM TO BOARD DOCS. 
          BY MARCH 10TH FOR THE MARCH 17TH WORK SESSION, WHERE WE WILL BE ASKING OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS ON FUNDING SO WE CAN DO A PRESENTED BUDGET ON MARCH 24TH AND APPROVE THE TAX RATE. 
          PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 24TH AND THEN, IF WE NEEDED A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WE MAY NOT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME DETAILS HERE IN A MINUTE, THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE ON APRIL 28TH. SO, JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS. 
          WE DO HAVE A AA. BOND RATING HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY THAT WAS REAFFIRMED IN DECEMBER OF 2020 FOLLOWING BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZATION FOR BOND REFINANCING TO CAPITALIZE ON LOWER INTEREST RATES. SO THAT'S MOODY'S AND SMP, MOODY'S IS DOUBLE A2. AND THEN THAT WAS CONFIRMED IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, AND EXCUSE ME, I SAID AN SMP WAS A DOUBLE A PLUS, RESPECTIVELY. THAT MEANS THE COUNTY CAN BORROW FUNDS AT LOW INTEREST RATES. IS A STRONG ENDORSEMENT OF SOUND FISCAL MANAGEMENT. 
          AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADMINISTRATORS COMMITTED TO ADHERING TO ESTABLISH TO THE ESTABLISHED FINANCIAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. ONLY A DOUBLE A TRIPLE A RATING IS HIGHER. I DID POST SOME OF THE 2020 SMP GLOBAL RATING NOTES FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY WHEN WE WENT OUT TO DO THAT WORK, SO THESE WERE SOME OF THE NOTES. AGAIN. THIS WILL BE A DISCUSSION, MAYBE FOR FUTURE OR SOME THIS EVENING. BUT SOME HIGHLIGHTS THERE WERE THAT WE EXPECT AVAILABLE FUNDS TO REMAIN ABOVE 30% OF EXPENDITURES FOR THE CURRENT AND NEXT YEAR'S. 
          SO THAT WAS AS OF FY 28. SO AGAIN, THEY'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THE 30% THERE. AND THEN, ACCORDING TO THE SAME THING, MAINTAIN RESERVES WELL ABOVE 30% OF EXPENDITURES WAS AGAIN HIGHLIGHTED AS A STRENGTH FOR OUR OUR COUNTY. AND THEN ALSO STRONG MANAGEMENT THROUGH THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL POLICIES, CONSERVATIVE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE ASSUMPTIONS, INCORPORATING MULTIPLE YEARS OF HISTORICAL INFORMATION. 
          SO, AGAIN, THESE ARE PRACTICES THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE HISTORICALLY EVERY YEAR AND PRACTICED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          QUARTERLY BUDGET TO ACTUAL UPDATES PROVIDED TO THE BOARD WAS A HIGHLIGHT THERE AS A STRENGTH FOR THE COUNTY, AGAIN, PROVIDED BY MS. DRURY. 
          AND THEN FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND THEN ALSO OUR FORMAL GENERAL FUND BALANCE POLICY, WITH A TARGET OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF AT LEAST 12.5%, BUT AGAIN, A GOAL OF 15%. SO THEY KIND OF ALLUDE HERE THAT EVEN THOUGH OUR POLICY SAYS WE'LL MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE OF AT LEAST 12.5%, THE STRENGTH WE REALLY GOT HIGHLIGHTED MULTIPLE TIMES ON WAS HAVING A 30%. 
          SO, AGAIN, JUST MAINTAINING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN OUR POLICY. THIS IS SOMETHING FOR MAYBE FUTURE BOARD CONSIDERATION, BUT THAT POLICY MIGHT BE SOMETHING AS WE GET CLOSER TO POTENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT GETTING A BOND OF MAYBE UPDATING, OR CONSIDER THE BOARD CONSIDERING UPDATING THAT POLICY TO MATCH. WHAT WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MOST LIKELY COMPARED TO IF WE HAVE TO GO OUT TO A BOND AND LOOK AT OUR RATING AGAIN. SO, ANYTHING TO ADD, MS. DRURY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ALL OF THE INFORMATION HIGHLIGHTED HERE WAS IN THE ATTACHMENT FOR THE BOARD DOCUMENTS. THESE 
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ARE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FUNDING CHOICES. AGAIN, THIS MAY NOT BE ALL-ENCOMPASSING, BUT SOME OF THE LARGE LEVERS THAT THE BOARD HAS ACCESS AND CONTROL TO, WHICH I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, YOU DO NOT HAVE ACCESS AND CONTROL OTHER THAN STATE MANDATES. SO AGAIN, THE STATE TAX RATE, YOU'VE GOT REAL ESTATE, PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND MACHINERY AND TOOLS. LAST YEAR'S RATES WERE $0.82 FOR REAL ESTATE FOR EVERY $100 ASSESSED VALUE, $3.90 FOR REAL ESTATE. FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX AND M&T WAS 150. 
          I'VE GOT THE STATE CODE REFERENCES THERE FOR SOME OF THESE, SO IF IT HELPS FOLKS TO GO OUT AND LOOK, MORE SO FOR THE PUBLIC, I KNOW THE BOARD KNOWS ALL OF THIS INFORMATION. SCHOOL TRANSFERS, AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER LARGE LEVER. 
          CONTRIBUTIONS TO SCHOOLS FOR FY26 WAS 19.1 MILLION. WE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE CODE TO GENERATE PROPERTY TAX OR LEVY PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE SCHOOLS. DEPARTMENTAL FEES, WE JUST DISCUSSED SOME OF THOSE THIS EVENING. THERE ARE DIFFERENT CODE SECTIONS FOR EACH FEE BY DEPARTMENT, SO A COUPLE OF REFERENCES THERE. DEBT RESERVE CONTRIBUTIONS, THIS YEAR, WE DO HAVE $522,443 OF ANNUAL DEBT FALLING OFF. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE, BUT YOU CAN FIND THIS ON PAGE 275 OF THE FY26 BUDGET DOCUMENT ON THE FINANCES WEBSITE. FOR PRINCE GEORGE, HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASES, WE ARE LOOKING AT A 5.1% INCREASE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. CHOOSING TO PASS THAT ON, THAT'S LINE 86. WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING TO PASS THAT ON TO EMPLOYEES OR HAVE THE COUNTY COVER THOSE COSTS. EMPLOYEE POSITION FUNDING, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE POSITION CONTROL CHART FUNDING FOR COUNTY DEPARTMENTS. THAT'S LOCATED ON PAGE 300 OF THE FY26 BUDGET. NON-SALARY REQUESTS. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO THE BOARD THAT WE DID TAKE A SATURDAY, MYSELF, MS. DRURY, AND MS. CHARLAY, TO GO OVER EVERY SINGLE LINE OF NON-SALARY REQUESTS. AND SO THIS WAS TO REALLY SAY ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T GET AN INCREASE THIS YEAR, ARE WE UTILIZING THOSE FUNDS? HAVE THEY BEEN UTILIZED WELL OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND CORRECTLY? SO, AGAIN, WE DID A VERY IN-DEPTH REVIEW OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET, EVERY LINE ITEM. AND WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE TRIED NOT TO LOOK AT ONE YEAR. WE LOOKED AT TRENDS TWO YEARS OR MORE. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO UNDERESTIMATE WHAT OUR BUDGET IS. AND THEN HAVE DEPARTMENTS BE OVER NEXT YEAR OR TAKE MONIES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR REQUIRED EXPENSES, EITHER. BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION SOON, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM DEPARTMENTS. AS MR. RUI SAYS, WE ARE TRYING TO RIGHT-SIZE THE BUDGET. 
          ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE DID SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR AS WELL. 
          EMPLOYEE POSITION, FUNDING RATES, THAT AGAIN, IS ANOTHER LEVER FOR OUR BOARD TO CONSIDER. FIRE AND EMS IS ASKING FOR 7% FOR FIREFIGHTER MEDICS, AND THEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING A 5% BASED ON MARKET GRADE. REVIEWS, AND THEN 3% FOR NON-PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THESE ARE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE BOARD. WE'LL GO OVER AGAIN. ALL OF THIS STUFF WAS IN THE THE ATTACHMENT AND THEN EXEMPTIONS OR DEFERRAL OF TAXES ON PROPERTY. SO WE'VE GOT ELDERLY AND INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WE'VE GOT. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WAS ABOUT NOT THAT THESE ARE IDEAL FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT IT IS SOMETHING IN STATE CODE, A LEVER THAT EXISTS. BUT WE HAVE SEEN A STARK INCREASE IN DISABLED VETERANS APPLYING. 
          SO THAT WAS $2.3 MILLION FOR FY26, AND WE ANTICIPATE SOME INCREASES. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL FOR WHO QUALIFIES AND HOW FAST THOSE CASES ARE GETTING PROCESSED. 
          SO I BELIEVE NATIONALLY IT WAS 15%, AND I THINK WE SAW SOMEWHERE OF 17% INCREASE. SO ANYWAY, THERE ARE SOME NATIONAL POLICIES THAT ARE STARTING TO TRICKLE DOWN AND IMPACT THAT BUDGETARY ITEM. THIS IS THAT PAGE FOR DEBT FALLING OFF THAT WILL BE REVIEWED, AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THIS IS ON PAGE 275 OF MS. DREW'S BUDGET DOCUMENT FOR FY26. YOU CAN SEE DOWN BELOW THE TWO LIGHTER GREENS. 
          YOU'VE GOT HARRISON AND SOUTH. THOSE TWO DEBT PAYMENTS ARE FALLING OFF. THAT'S ABOUT $501,000. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN FY28, WE'VE GOT FOUR PAYMENTS THERE LOOKING TO FALL OFF, AND THEN IN FY 30, ANOTHER, UM, 170 000 PAYMENT FALLING OFF AS WELL. 
          SO REQUIREMENTS AGAIN, I KNOW THE BOARD IS AWARE, UM, BUT THIS MUST BE APPROVED. WE MUST APPROVE BY STATE CODE A BALANCED BUDGET BY JUNE 30TH, AND WE HAVE TO DO FISCAL YEAR BUDGETING. 
          SO IT BEGINS ON JULY 1ST AND ENDS ON JUNE 30TH, 
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SO THAT'S MANDATED IN STATE CODE. THE SCHOOL BOARD MUST APPROVE A SCHOOL BUDGET BY MAY 1ST OR WITHIN 15 DAYS OF RECEIVING AN ESTIMATED STATE FUNDING. AND THEN SET THAT, WE HAVE TO TEXT, SET BY CODE, WE HAVE TO SET THE TAX RATE. 
          WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THE COUNTY HAS TO SET A TAX RATE BY JULY 1ST OF EACH YEAR, WE DO HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING BY STATE CODE. IF THE REASSESSMENT WOULD RESULT IN AN INCREASE OF 1% OR MORE IN THE TOTAL REAL ESTATE TAXES LEVIED COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING A REASSESSMENT THIS YEAR AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE BOARD'S DECISIONS HERE, BUT POTENTIALLY COULD BE NOT REQUIRED. TRADITIONALLY, THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED ITS BUDGET BY MAY 31ST AND THEN WORK TO MILL THAT WORKS TO ACCOMMODATE BILL MILLING. 
          DATES OF JUNE 5TH FOR OUR TREASURER'S OFFICE. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO COVER HERE. THIS IS A HELPFUL TOOL. SO IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ON THE NUMBERS FOR THE LINE ITEMS, THIS IS KIND OF THE SCHEMA FOR HOW THOSE ARE ASSIGNED. SO YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE DIFFERENT NUMBERS IN CASE, THAT'S HELPFUL. I CERTAINLY FOUND THIS HELPFUL. AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT MS. DRURY. THIS IS IN HER BUDGET DOCUMENT AS WELL. 
          SOCIAL SERVICES, AGAIN, IT'S JUST AS HELPFUL AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A REFERENCE. AND THESE ARE NON-GENERAL FUND CODE OR NUMBERS. EXCUSE ME. SO YOU CAN SEE THESE HERE. WE'VE GOT DEBT SERVICES FUNDS. AGAIN, THOSE ARE OFF ON THE FAR RIGHT. 
          CAPITAL, PROJECT, FUND, SCHOOL, AND THEN ENTERPRISE, ALL OF THOSE HAVE DIFFERENT CODES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ITEMS. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT INTRODUCTION TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT, FOR NOW, TO THE WHAT WE WILL BE SPENDING MOST OF OUR TIME ON THIS EVENING. IS THE EXCEL DOCUMENT. SO THE COUNTY'S ADOPTED FY 26 GENERAL FUND. 
          OH, THANK YOU, YES. OKAY, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY'S ADOPTED FY26 GENERAL FUND BUDGET TOTALS WERE SEVENTY NINE POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. WE, AS AMENDED FY26, HAVE 292 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND THREE PART-TIME REGULARS. SO THESE THREE ACTUALLY TOTAL SIX PART-TIME, REGULAR EMPLOYEES, SO IT'S A HALF PER EMPLOYEE. 
          REQUESTS RECEIVED FROM DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED BUDGETS WERE 22, AN INCREASE OF 22 FULL-TIME, AND THEN THEY REQUESTED PART-TIME OF AN INCREASE OF TWO. 
          PART-TIME POSITIONS, FULL-TIME, REGULAR, PART-TIME, SORRY, PART-TIME, REGULAR POSITION. 
          AND THEN JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS. 
          HERE, THE MUST DOS FOR THE DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR DECISIONS TOTALED 84.9 MILLION. SO THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 5 MILLION. AND WE UNDERSTAND. THE FY27 ESTIMATED REVENUES WOULD BE 80.7 MILLION. AND AGAIN, THE NUMBERS ARE THERE. 
          BUT THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 1.3. 
          YOU CAN SEE WE'RE AT A DEFICIT FOR BASED ON REQUESTS. THAT DOESN'T... THAT DOES NOT OBVIOUSLY MEET THE STATE CODE OF HAVING A BALANCED BUDGET, SO WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH, FILTER THROUGH THOSE REQUESTS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE. 
          AND THIS IS BASICALLY THE REQUESTS, AND TABULATED OUT BY BENEFITS AND SALARIES, AND WHICH CATEGORIES THEY ENTER IN. 
          YOU CAN SEE SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE A LARGE CONTRIBUTOR TO THE INCREASE THERE, AT 12%. AGAIN, THIS IS REQUESTED, SO THIS DOESN'T MEAN THIS IS THE FINALIZED BUDGET OR ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN. IT'S JUST WHAT DEPARTMENTS HAVE ASKED FOR, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE ARE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET. JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS PURCHASES PURCHASE SERVICE REQUESTS WERE 10% OR FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY, THREE, THREE HUNDRED, SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND, AND SOME OTHER HIGHLIGHTS HERE. 
          MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES. AND BEYOND THAT, I THINK I'LL GET INTO THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND MUST DO'S. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO MOVE FAST. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING OR HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE STOP ME. I'M HAPPY TO STOP AND DISCUSS AN ITEM AND GET ASSISTANCE IF NEEDED. 
          OKAY, SO FOR OUR REAL ESTATE TAX, AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS. SO FOR REAL ESTATE TAXES, WE DID NOT PROJECT AN INCREASE. 
          WE DO HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE DID NOT CALCULATE THAT 
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IN DUE TO THE UNKNOWN INCREASES WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN THE DISABLED, VETERANS AND OTHER THINGS. WE DON'T WANT TO COUNT ON ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION REVENUES JUST BECAUSE THAT SEEMS SAFER TO HAVE A VERY RESERVED LOWER ESTIMATE. SAME THING FOR ELDERLY TAX RELIEF. WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE OR REQUESTING AN INCREASE FROM 150,000, SO IT WOULD BE 55,000 IN ADDITION TO THIS YEAR'S APPROVED 150,000 BUDGETED. CHANGE IN PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. 
          AGAIN, WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE OR BUDGET BASED ON ANY ANTICIPATED CHANGES THERE. SO WE'LL BE LEAVING THAT AT 12 MILLION IN THE PROJECTIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE. MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE REVENUES AT ZERO, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY REVENUES FROM THAT. PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF ACT REVENUES. SO THIS IS 3.6 MILLION, NO CHANGE HERE. YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF NO CHANGES ON A LOT OF THESE TAXES. LOCAL SALES AND USE TAX REVENUE AGAIN, WE DID NOT BUDGET BASED ON ANY PROJECTED REVENUES, SO THAT REMAINS AT 4.6 MILLION. 
          CHANGE IN ELECTRIC AND GAS UTILITY TAXES. WE'RE LEAVING THAT AT NINE HUNDRED, NO CHANGE. ESTIMATED THERE. 
          DELINQUENT REAL ESTATE TAX COLLECTIONS, WE LEFT THAT AT $700,000, SO NO CHANGE IN ANTICIPATED REVENUES THERE. 
          PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUES, WE RECOMMEND KEEPING IT AT THE FY26 AMOUNT OF $2.5 MILLION. THAT'S VALUED BY THE STATE CORPORATIONS COMMISSION, SO I BELIEVE THAT OUR ASSESSOR'S OFFICE ACTUALLY DOES A REPORT EVERY YEAR THAT THEY BASE THIS NUMBER OFF OF, SO JUST TO BE, THAT'S HOW THAT'S TIED THERE. 
          DELINQUENT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES AT $700,000, AGAIN, LEFT LEVEL ANTICIPATED. 
          NO REVENUE THERE. MOBILE HOME TAX REVENUES, THIS IS BASED ON THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE OF $0.82. WE DID ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE OF $18,000 THERE. 
          THIS IS BASED ON NEW CONSTRUCTION OR POTENTIAL. 
          REPLACING OLDER MOBILE HOMES WITH NEWER ONES. DELINQUENT MOBILE HOME TAX REVENUE WE LEFT AT 3,000. MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX REVENUE WAS LEFT AT 1.28 MILLION. AGAIN, NO ANTICIPATED, BUT WE DID SEE A REDUCTION IN GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS REQUIRED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR MACHINERY AND TOOLS. 
          REBATES FOR FY 27. SO THIS IS $183,065, SO THAT'S AN INCREASE OR AN EXPENDITURE. SO WE WERE REQUIRED TO TRANSFER THAT FOR PAYMENTS FOR REBATES, BUT AGAIN, NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S DUE TO DEPRECIATION. MACHINERY AND TOOLS CAN BE PRETTY FAST DEPRECIATORS COMPARED TO REAL ESTATE. DELINQUENT MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX REVENUES WERE LEFT AT $2,400. 
          PENALTIES ON ALL PROPERTY TAXES WERE LEFT AT $480,000, SO SAME AS LAST YEAR. INTEREST ON ALL PROPERTY TAXES WERE LEFT AT $300,000. ADMINISTRATIVE COST DELINQUENT TAXES, AGAIN, NO CHANGE, $130,000 WAS LAST YEAR'S AMOUNT. TAXES ON RECORDATION AND WILLS, WE LEFT AT $490,000. GENERAL FUND PORTION OF LODGING TAX, WE LEFT, AGAIN, NO CHANGE, $340,000. FOR BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE TAX AND RELATED LATE FEES, WE DID LEAVE LEVEL AT, YOU SAID, OKAY, WE LEFT IT LEVEL, BUT WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN COLLECTIONS, BUT WE LEFT IT AT $2,039,500. BUT WE DID, AGAIN, SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE, BUT NOT WORTH REALLY ADJUSTING THE PROJECTIONS THERE. BANK STOCK TAXES WERE INCREASED BY $30,000. THIS IS BASED ON INVESTMENT. DIVIDEND INCOME. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT'S FROM THE GENERAL FUND, FUND BALANCE. YES. OKAY. AND THEN WE SAW A NET INCREASE IN PERMIT AND ADMIN FEES OF EIGHT THOUSAND, SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS. THAT TAKES US FROM SIX UP TO SIX HUNDRED TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS THIS YEAR. A NET INCREASE IN PLANS, REVIEWS AND SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS IF THE BOARD APPROVES ANY KIND OF FEE CHANGES, PROJECTIONS FOR THE PRESENTED FEES WAS THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. THIS IS AN OPTION ON A FUTURE TAB. NO CHANGE IN DOG LICENSE FEES. WE KEPT THOSE AT $4,800. LAND USE APPLICATION FEES, AGAIN, NO CHANGE. WE KEPT IT AT $2,400. TAXICAB PERMIT FEE REVENUES WERE KEPT AT $300. 
          JAIL ADMISSION FEE REVENUES, THIS IS A PROCESSING OR BOOKING FEE THAT'S CHARGED. WE'RE LEFT AT $2,800. FINES AND FORFEITURES INCREASED BY $36,000, AND THIS IS DUE TO TRAFFIC STOPS OR PROPERTY SEIZURES, THOSE TYPES 
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OF THINGS. INTEREST REVENUES, WE DID SEE AN INCREASE. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON INVESTMENT POOL ACCOUNTS OF $700,000 FOR GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE, AND THEN EARNED ON BANK DEPOSITS. INTEREST EARNED ON BANK DEPOSITS, WE SAW, WE DID PROJECT AN INCREASE. 
          AND EVEN BOTH OF THIS, THESE INCREASES ARE STILL CONSERVATIVE. SO WE'VE SEEN A MUCH HIGHER AMOUNT COMING IN IN INTEREST, BUT AGAIN, CONSERVATIVELY FEEL COMFORTABLE AFTER MULTIPLE YEARS THAT THESE CAN BE INCREASED. SO, $101,000 FOR EARNED ON BANK DEPOSITS. 
          RENT AND SALES INCREASED BY $300. THIS IS FOR THREE RENT LEASES, JUST LIKE WE HAVE SOME COMING UP. 
          NEEDING TO BE RENEWED. WE'VE GOT TREE TIME AND CWC, LEE SHARES. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. NET CHANGE IN FEES, SO WE DID INCREASE A THOUSAND DOLLARS RECOMMENDED BASED ON TRENDS. THIS IS FOR FINGERPRINTING, EMS, SUBSCRIPTIONS, DUI FEES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS INCREASE. OR WE LEFT THE SHERIFF'S COURTHOUSE SECURITY FEE AT ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE THOUSAND, SO NO CHANGE IN REVENUE PROJECTIONS THERE, NO CHANGE IN SHERIFF COURTHOUSE SECURITY EXPENDITURES. SO THAT'S ONE FOR ONE. THESE ARE TIED TOGETHER, YOU CAN SEE OUR REVENUE HERE AND AN EXPENDER, SO THESE ITEMS ARE TOGETHER. 
          RECREATION FEES AND GYM MEMBERSHIP DID SEE A SMALL REDUCTION, SO ADOPTED IN FY26 WAS $155,000. WE REDUCED THAT DOWN TO $152,550. 
          IN-HOUSE MEDICAL TRANSPORT FEES. THIS IS FIRE EMS BILLING. 
          WE DID NOT PROJECT A CHANGE, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE, AGAIN, SOME THINGS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS. SO THERE MAY BE SOME STABILIZATION IN THAT FEE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. DMV BLOCKS CORRESPONDING TO EXPENDITURES. SO THIS IS A COLLECTION FOR DELINQUENT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. AND, AGAIN, WE ANTICIPATED NO CHANGE. IT'S ALSO A REVENUE EXPENDITURE TIED TOGETHER KIND OF AN ITEM. 
          GRASS-CUTTING FEES, WE DID INCREASE TO $500, BUT THOSE GET. THEY'RE BOTH A REVENUE AND AN EXPENSE, SO THOSE GET PAID BACK. 
          BUT WE ARE SEEING, AND THAT'S BASED ON INCREASES, I BELIEVE, COSTS FOR SERVICES. AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT CALLS, BUT I KNOW COSTS FOR SERVICES ARE INCREASING. 
          NET CHANGE IN RECOVERED COSTS, SO $31,522. THAT DUE TO RCJA, THE SOAR GRANT, INDIRECT COSTS, DINWIDDIE COUNTY MUTUAL AID. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S MULTIPLE LINE ITEMS THAT ARE TIED TO THIS, SO IT'S ALL OF THOSE IN TOTAL. FARMER'S MARKET REVENUE CHANGE, WE KEPT THAT AT $8,000. NET CHANGE IN OTHER STATE NON-CATEGORICAL AID, SO THIS IS MOBILE HOME. MOBILE HOME RENTAL, AUTO SALES, COMMUNICATIONS TAX. WE DID DECREASE IT BY $55,000. I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN STEADILY DECREASING EVERY YEAR, AND SO THIS IS BASED ON TRENDS. SO IT'S FOR FY 27, IT WOULD BE NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PROPOSED, VERSUS FY 26. OF NINE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE THOUSAND SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER GRANTS, WE DID ADD LINE ITEM FOR TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND AND THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY DOLLARS. THERE IS A NEW GRANT THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE MARCH 10TH AGENDA. AND SO THAT DID ADD $76,790 TO THIS. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER GRANT FUNDED POSITION THAT'S ON THE CHOICES TAB FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER CONTINUED FUNDING THERE. AND THEN CHILD SERVICES ACT AT RED'S YOUTH. SO AGAIN, WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE ITEMS HERE THAT ARE TIED TOGETHER. WITH OUR SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO WE SAW A DECREASED PROJECTION OF $24,028. AND THEN THE OVERALL EXPENDITURES AGAIN WERE $32,000. TRANSFER FROM SCHOOLS FOR CHILD SERVICES ACT LOCAL MATCH WAS 7,000. 
          ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILD SERVICES ACT, NO. CHANGE FROM 13,000 $405,000. SAME THING FOR EXPENDITURES, LOCAL SHARES $7,957. SOCIAL SERVICES PUBLIC ASSISTANCE INCREASED FROM $709 UP TO $172,726 INCREASE. 
          EXPENDITURE CHANGE FOR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WAS AN INCREASE OF $185,390. AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE TOTAL WELFARE ADMINISTRATION REVENUE, THIS WAS FROM A DECREASE IN FEDERAL SNAP PROGRAM 
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REDUCTIONS. ACCORDING TO VIRGINIA CODE 63.2-801, WE ARE MANDATED BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA TO CONTINUE THE SNAP PROGRAM AS LONG AS VIRGINIA IS A PARTICIPANT. SO THIS IS A NON-OPTIONAL INCREASE TO THE COUNTY, PASSED DOWN BECAUSE OF REDUCTION IN SNAP COVERAGE FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET FROM THE STATE TO SEE IF THEY ARE GOING TO COVER THAT, BUT SO FAR WE HAVE NOT GOT ANY WORD THAT THAT'S BEEN COVERED. WIRELESS PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS ADMINISTERED BY THE 911 SERVICES BOARD, SO THERE'S NO CHANGE HERE. IT STAYS AT $193,000. NO CHANGE IN RECOVERY FROM HOUSE BILL 599 FUNDS FOR THE POLICE, SO THAT REMAINS AT $1.16. 
          MILLION UNTIL DCJS PROVIDES REVENUES. 
          FEDERAL PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES, THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEMS RECEIVE FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE ACTIVE DUTY, CHILDREN OF ACTIVE DUTY MEMBERS, SO THAT'S $38,000. STATE OPIOID RESPONSE, OR SOAR GRANT ADDITION, WAS $224,435. THAT WAS AWARDED. WE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING PROJECTED IN 26, SO THIS IS A NEW LINE ITEM FOR 27. AND AGAIN, BELOW, YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S WHY IT'S STILL HIGHLIGHTED PURPLE, THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THOSE EXPENDITURES WOULD BE SPENT ON. 
          TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, INDIRECT COSTS, SUPPLIES, OFFICE SUPPLIES, SOFTWARE, AND THEN NEW INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. WE DID HAVE AN OPERATION CEASEFIRE GRANT FROM THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY. GO AWAY, AND SO DOWN HERE, YOU CAN SEE A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE COSTS, BUT YOU CAN SEE AGAIN NON-PERSONNEL PORTION, AND THEN PERSONNEL REDUCTIONS FOR SOFTWARE, AND THEN NON-PERSONNEL REDUCTIONS. 
          OPERATION CEASEFIRE AGAIN, ANOTHER GRANT THAT IS GOING AWAY. THAT'S $126,598, AND THEN A BREAKDOWN BELOW OF WHAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE. 
          THE ACTUALLY, OKAY, THANK YOU. OPERATION CEASEFIRE FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THIS EXPIRES, SO THIS WOULD BE AGAIN. IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN A CHOICE. 
          NINETY, THREE THOUSAND, ONE HUNDRED, NINETY DOLLARS. 
          THAT'S A LOSS THERE. OF GRANT REVENUES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING THIS YEAR OPERATION CEASEFIRE. 
          FOR EQUIPMENT, THAT'S $167,000. AGAIN, IT'S BOTH A REVENUE AND AN EXPENDITURE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUE AND THEN THE EXPENSE THERE. SO ALL OF THIS TOTALS, THE TOTAL GAIN FROM ALL OF THESE REVENUES AND THEN LOSS OF REVENUES IS $961,721. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT LEADS US TO THE REVISED GENERAL FUND BUDGET OF $80,431,612. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR REVENUES AND CHANGES IN REVENUES? OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO FOR EXPENDITURES, EXCUSE ME, I'M JUST, OKAY, SO WE DID SEE A BASELINE ADJUSTMENT OF PERSONNEL. SO THIS IS A CHANGE IN PERSONNEL COMPLEMENT. SO IT WAS A DECREASE OF $61,921. I KNOW WE ARE ON THE EXPENDITURE TAB, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE SEEING A COUPLE OF DECREASES HERE. AGAIN, THIS IS CHANGE IN PERSONNEL WORKING IN POSITIONS MAY NOT HAVE COME IN AT THE SAME STEP. BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS FOR SOCIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL, AGAIN, THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM. 
          BUT AGAIN, SAME THING, PERSONNEL CHANGES IMPACTED THE COST THERE. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER SALARY BENEFITS AND BASELINE ADJUSTMENTS. THIS COULD BE ANYTHING FROM WHO'S ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE, ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS, CHANGES AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. WE ALSO SAW A REDUCTION IN WELFARE ADMINISTRATION REVENUE FOR $39,889. SO THAT IS AN EXPENSE. 
          COMPENSATION BOARD, SHARED EXPENSES, RECOVERY FOR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, SHERIFF, COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, TREASURER, CLERK OF THE COURT. WE'RE SEEING $13,393 THERE FOR EXPENDITURES AND INCREASE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE, THIS IS THE TOTAL. SO IT'S A REVENUE LOSS. I APOLOGIZE. 
          THIS IS THE RUNNING TOTAL. SO YOU CAN SEE, WE STARTED WITH A POSITIVE HERE. WE HAD ANOTHER LARGE CONTRIBUTION. SO AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN, YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER CHANGE. VRS RETIREMENT RATE REDUCTION, I HAVE THIS IN GREEN. WE ACTUALLY DID SEE A SAVINGS OF $378,964. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL. SO YOU CAN SEE OUR EXPENDITURES AVAILABLE OR USE. 
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WE ACTUALLY HAVE $540,880 THERE, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE COVERED SO FAR. 
          SOCIAL SERVICES REDUCTION IN WELFARE ADMINISTRATION WAS $9,733. THAT'S FOR THEIR VRS RATE REDUCTIONS. 
          GROUP LIFE INSURANCE RATE REDUCTIONS DID ALSO EXPERIENCE A CHANGE. SO WE SAW A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY THERE OF $26,593. SOCIAL SERVICES PORTION FOR THAT WAS $683. WE SAW A HEALTH INCREASE OF 5.1% ABSORBED. WE DID PUT IT AS A MUST-DO AND BEING ABSORBED BY THE EMPLOYEE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER. ON A FUTURE TAB TO ALTER THAT MUST-DO ITEM, BUT THAT'S $170,699. $170,699 IN ADDED EXPENDITURES. SOCIAL SERVICES WELFARE ADMINISTRATION INCREASE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE WAS $4,710. THAT WAS ACTUALLY A REDUCTION. TWO PERCENT MANDATED INCREASE FOR STATE-SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES, OR SCALE CHANGES FOR DEPUTY SHERIFFS. THAT'S $123,945. SOCIAL SERVICES WELFARE ADMINISTRATION REVENUE INCREASES RELATED TO THE 2% WAS $14,560. 
          COMPENSATION BOARD SHARED EXPENSE RECOVERY FOR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, SHERIFF, COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, TREASURER, CLERK OF THE COURT. 
          FROM STATE MANDATED 2% COMP BOARD SALARY INCREASES WAS A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY OF $45,612. CHANGE IN RECOVERY FROM STATE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS ESTIMATED 2% INCREASE FOR REGISTRAR FOR THREE PART-TIME ELECTED OFFICIALS OR ELECTED BOARD POSITIONS. 
          DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ELIMINATED STRATEGIC PLAN COSTS SO THAT WAS BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY OF $69,000. THEY DID SEE A DECREASE OF $17,250, SO THE TOTAL BUDGETED FOR THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN, IT EQUALS THE $69,000 AND THE $17,250. THEY ARE REQUESTING AN INCREASE OF $23,000 FOR THIRD-PARTY LEGAL SERVICES. 
          OUR FORMER COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD SPECIALIZED IN SOCIAL SERVICES. AS PART-TIME, DEDICATED SOLELY TO SUPPORT THIS DEPARTMENT, AND SO THIS IS TO OFFSET HAVING THAT SPECIALTY. IT IS PRETTY AFFORDABLE COMPARATIVELY. BUT I'LL LET THE BOARD ASK QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT LINE ITEM. 
          SOCIAL SERVICES, WELFARE ADMINISTRATION REVENUE. 
          SO OF THAT 23,000, WE DO SEE FIVE THOUSAND, SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS FROM COVERED BY THE STATE DSS ELIMINATION OF USED VEHICLE PURCHASE. 
          EVERY OTHER YEAR, THEY ALTER A VEHICLE WITH FURNITURE. SO YOU'LL SEE A FURNITURE INCREASE HERE SHORTLY. SOCIAL SERVICES, WELFARE ADMINISTRATION, REVENUE FROM LOST, REVENUE FROM THE LOSS OF THE VEHICLE. 
          SO AS WE TAKE FUNDS AWAY FROM SOCIAL SERVICES, WE LOSE STATE FUNDING FOR THOSE SAME ITEMS. DSS NON-SALARY CHANGES. THERE ARE NUMBER OF SMALLER ITEMS HERE FOR POSTAGE, WE'RE SEEING POSTAGE INCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD. TELEPHONE IS THE SAME. DUES AND MEMBERSHIP $2,000 FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES, TECH EQUIPMENT $400, SOCIAL SERVICES, WELFARE ADMINISTRATION REVENUES INCREASING. SO AGAIN, THE COUNTY IS GETTING OF THESE ITEMS ABOVE, WE'RE GETTING $2,700. IF THAT'S APPROVED. DSS SAFETY TRAINING IS $5,000. THE STATE WOULD COVER $1,250. 
          OF THAT TRAINING BUDGET. WE ARE, I'LL TALK ABOUT SAFETY, THERE'S ANOTHER SAFETY ITEM I CAN GO INTO. DSS HERE IS THAT FURNITURE AND FIXTURE COST. 
          AGAIN, THEY ALTERNATE BETWEEN A USED VEHICLE AND FURNITURES AND FIXTURES. SO OF THAT $5,000, THE STATE WOULD COVER $1,250 IF APPROVED. PART-TIME WAGE REDUCTIONS, SO YOU CAN SEE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION REDUCED, ARE BY $200. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE REDUCED IT BY $10,000, PREDICATED ON IF THEY GOT THE FULL-TIME POSITION THAT THEY REQUESTED. SO IF NOT, WE MAY HAVE TO ADD SOME FUNDS BACK THERE SO THAT THEY CAN COVER NEEDED SERVICES. THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE SAW A REDUCTION BY $6,652. GENERAL SERVICES REDUCED THEIRS BY $5,000. AND FIRE EMS REDUCED THEIR PART-TIME. WAGES AND INCLUDING FICA TO 20 BY TWENTY ONE THOUSAND AND FORTY DOLLARS, AND THEN THE FARMERS MARKET A SIX THOUSAND DOLLAR REDUCTION, SO COMMISSIONER REVENUE AGAIN TWO THOUSAND. THESE ARE BROKEN 
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DOWN. YOU CAN SEE THE NAME OF THE DEPARTMENT HERE. WE'VE GOT THIS HIGHLIGHTED AS A CHOICE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO. THEIR REGISTRAR AGAIN. 
          AN INCREASE OF $2,159. I SHOULD BE CLEAR. THESE ARE INCREASES, WHAT I'M GOING OVER NEXT. SO, COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE HAS ASKED FOR A PART-TIME INCREASE OF $2,698. WE DISCUSSED PARKS AS A CHOICE FOR THE BOARD IN THE FUTURES TAB. 
          REGISTRAR'S OFFICE, AGAIN, $2,159. SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ASKING FOR $2,590. 
          COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY IS ASKING FOR AN INCREASE OF $2,238. AND THEN ANIMAL SERVICES IS ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE IF THE FULL-TIME KENNEL TENANT IS NOT FUNDED BY THE BOARD. REDUCTION IN FIRE AND EMS PART-TIME WAGES, WE DISCUSSED THAT. 
          COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, SO HERE'S THOSE LINE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED ABOVE. 
          AND THIS IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE REDUCTION BY $10,000. 
          ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, AGAIN, WAGES WERE REDUCED THERE. 
          PLANNING WAGES FOR COMMISSION MEMBERS WERE REDUCED BY $2,000. AND THEN A NET OVERTIME WAGE BASED ON TRENDS WAS INCREASED BY $10,107. THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF DEPARTMENTS THERE. WE DID SEE A LARGE INCREASE TO RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL CONTRIBUTIONS. THIS IS BECAUSE THE PER DIEM RATE WAS RAISED FROM $52 TO $57. AND THAT LEADS US TO AN INCREASE THIS YEAR OF $237,250. THIS IS DUE TO SOME STATE POLICY CHANGES, ICE WAS SOMETHING THAT PROVIDED FUNDING FOR THE RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL. SOME STATE POLICIES WERE CHANGED, AND SO THEY CAN NO LONGER PROJECT THOSE TYPE OF ICE FEDERAL HOLDINGS INTO THEIR BUDGET. SO, AGAIN, THAT ADDED PRESSURE FOR THE REGIONAL. CONTRIBUTORS TO THE JAIL TO INCREASE RATES. THEY ALSO HAVE NOT INCREASED THEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME, ADDING PRESSURE TO DRASTIC STEPS AND INCREASES. 
          SO WE DO ANTICIPATE ANOTHER INCREASE NEXT YEAR UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES. REQUESTED INCREASE FOR CRATER HEALTH DISTRICT DEPARTMENT OF 14,228. 
          THIS IS NOT FINAL, SO WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR COMMUNICATION, FINAL COMMUNICATION THERE. 
          CRATER YOUTH CARE COMMISSION IS STAYING LEVEL AT $439,694. 
          CRATER REACH CONTRIBUTION DID ALSO NOT INCREASE. IT'S STAYING AT $188,025. APPOMATTOX RIVER REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM DID REQUEST AN INCREASE OF $40,891. WE BUDGETED, THAT WAS A 6% INCREASE. WE BUDGETED CONSERVATIVELY, AN INCREASE OF 4%. IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WHY WE PUT ONLY 4%, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD TAKE FURTHER ACTION TO. EITHER DO IT AT 3 OR 6, BASED ON THEIR REQUEST. 
          CRATER CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON CONTRIBUTIONS, SO WE SAW A REDUCTION OF $5,852. CRATER CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY INCREASES OF $2,156. FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. JAMES RIVER SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT REQUESTED A $1,500 INCREASE. 
          CENTRAL VIRGINIA WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY REMAINED THE SAME AT $20,517. THE COOPERATIVE EXTENSION INCREASED OF $2,226. THIS IS LOCAL SUPPORT FOR THEM, SO THAT WOULD LEAD US TO A CONTRIBUTION OF $93,548. 
          PRINCE GEORGE PORTIONS OF THE SHARED CIRCUIT COURT SECRETARY, $118. THAT WAS ADOPTED IN FY26 AS $13,366. 
          GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTIONS CHANGE FOR COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, OR RCJA. THEY ARE REQUESTING A PART-TIME POSITION. SO, OUR PORTION OF THE REQUESTED PART-TIME POSITION WOULD BE $18,935. 
          AGAIN, THIS POSITION IS FUNDED BY REGIONAL PARTNERS, NOT JUST PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, SO IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE MUST-DO AND THE MANDATED 2% INCREASE FOR STATE EMPLOYEES AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. PRINCE GEORGE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE JAMES HOUSE HAD NO CHANGE AT $5,000. 
          CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE HOPEWELL HEALTHY FAMILIES, NO CHANGE AT $30,000. GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CAPITAL RESERVE, FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS HAD NO CHANGE, A REDUCTION OF $200. AND THEN GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTIONS TO FIRE AND EMS 
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EQUIPMENT SAW AN INCREASE OF $337. YOU CAN SEE WE DO HAVE DEBT PAYMENTS FROM THE APPARATUS, $700,045. 
          AND THEN THE SAME THING HAPPENS WITH THE APPARATUS. THEY HAVE A DEBT PAYMENT OF $84,519. 
          GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO THE DEBT FUND. AGAIN, WE SAW $522,443 DROP OFF OF OUR DEBT PAYMENTS. SO THAT WAS A LOSS IN, THAT WAS AN, WE'VE ADDED THAT BACK IN, AGAIN, FOR THE BOARD TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT. MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACTS, CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. WE SAW CURRENTLY A TOTAL OF TWO POINT. $2,448,252 FOR FY27. THAT WAS AN INCREASE OF $132,456. TYLER MUNIS ACROSS THE BOARD SAW INCREASES. 
          SWAGET, BOARDDOCS, AND POLICE PLATFORMS ALL SAW 6.5% INCREASES. SO WE'VE SEEN SOME INCREASES IN THOSE PLATFORMS AND PARTNERSHIPS THIS YEAR FOR MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACTS. 
          ECC MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACTS ACTUALLY SAW A REDUCTION OF $16,000 DUE TO SOME CONTRACT CHANGES REQUESTED BY THE ECC DIRECTOR. DECREASE IN MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS, $25,000. INFLATIONARY INCREASES IN MULTIPLE PLATFORMS. ANNUAL INCREASES WERE SEEN ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE LINE ITEMS THERE, $27,038. WE SAW A DRASTIC INCREASE FOR OUR VMWARE PROVIDER. OF $30,000. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT CHANGING PROVIDERS, BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO, GENERAL, IF YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION, LET ME KNOW. ON THAT VMWARE. 
          GENERAL PROPERTIES ADDITIONS AND MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS, FIRE ALARM PANEL INSPECTIONS. 
          SO OUR GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN MUCH MORE PROACTIVE THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN A LOT OF THESE AREAS, FIRE ALARM PANEL INSPECTIONS, 07,000 CHILLER, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE, BOILERS, BACKFLOW PREVENTION. SO IT NET INCREASED OF $28,350. BUT THE INTENTION THERE IS THAT THE CURRENT INVESTMENT PREVENTS FUTURE, MORE EXPENSIVE ITEMS. POLICE MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACTS SAW INFLATIONARY INCREASE OF $14,294. I BELIEVE. 
          THIS ALSO INCLUDED $12,000 FOR FLOCK CAMERAS, FOR NEW FLOCK CAMERAS. POLICE MAINTENANCE SERVICE CONTRACTS, THE NEW GRAY KEY AND AXIOM, FORMERLY FUNDED BY A GRANT, WAS INCLUDED AS A MUST DO AT $44,375. MAGNET ONE CLOUD, $27,295. THIS IS TO CHANGE HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT STORES THEIR DATA AND INFORMATION. 
          OSCR CRIME SCENE SOFTWARE, AGAIN, FORMALLY FUNDED BY A GRANT. THAT'S $2,310. 
          PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OVERALL FOR THE FY26 ADOPTED AMOUNT WAS $501,232. YOU SAW AN INCREASE THERE. FOR FY27 REQUESTS OF $88,950. THERE ARE SOME OF THESE LISTED. THE $138,000 WAS PULLED OUT FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION FOR DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLANS IN THE CHOICES OPTION IN THE FUTURE. PROFESSIONAL SERVICES REDUCTION SAW $10,460 REDUCTION, AGAIN, FOR VARIOUS AREAS. 
          COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES. 
          THERE WAS A REDUCTION FOR OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY TOOK IT FROM $125,000 DOWN TO $100,000. THIS WAS FOR PART 4 OF ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE UPDATES. 
          WE DO TALK ABOUT THIS IN A FUTURE SLIDE. THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU FUND WITH ONE-TIME MONEY. PLANNING ORDINANCE UPDATES, AGAIN, PART 4. DISCUSSION IS AT THE CHOICES SLIDE. ANIMAL SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SAW AN INCREASE. THIS ALIGNS WITH THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES AND VETERINARY COSTS. THAT'S 25,000. INFLATIONARY INCREASES IN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS ALSO EXISTED FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 
          THAT'S $2,650. AGAIN, THE DEPARTMENTS ARE LISTED THERE. 
          FIRE AND EMS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SAW AN INCREASE FOR MEDICATION DISPOSAL SERVICES AND MEDICAL DIRECTOR SERVICES AT $4,760. MEDICAL SERVICES FOR FIRE AND MS INCREASED BY $24,704. THIS IS FOR ANNUAL PHYSICALS FOR CAREER AND ACTIVE VOLUNTEERS. WE DID PUT THIS IN THE CHOICES SLIDE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, SO IT WAS NOT PUT IN THE MUST-DOS. ANIMAL 
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SERVICES INCREASED IN ANIMAL DISPOSAL SERVICES, $950. RECREATION OFFICIALS INCREASED. THIS IS BASED ON PRIOR YEAR FUNDING BY $8,000. AND THEN... FIRE AND EMS BILLING AND PRINTING SAW AN INCREASE OF $200. ADVERTISING OVERALL IN ALL DEPARTMENTS SAW A REDUCTION OF $50. REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FOR ALL GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS. WE DID SEE THE LARGEST REQUEST HERE FROM RECREATION FOR TEMPLE PARK REPAIRS, SO THAT WAS TAKEN OUT AND PUT IN THE CHOICES SLIDE. ANIMAL SERVICES REQUESTS, THIS WAS FOR REPAIRS TO UM DOG RUNS AND ORIGINAL INFRASTRUCTURE THERE OF $2,000. COURT, THE CLERK OF THE COURT NEEDED REPAIRS FOR A PLAT MACHINE FOR $400. 
          TREASURER NEEDED PRINTER REPAIRS FOR AN INCREASE OF $200. GARAGE TANK MAINTENANCE FOR SEVEN STATIONS, THIS WAS $10,000. WE DID SOME RESEARCH HERE. WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE THIS YEAR WITH A BACTERIA CALLED HUMBUG IN OUR TANKS. WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, YOU HAVE TO CLEAN IT. A SECONDARY. THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GROW BACK. BUT AFTER THAT, WE CAN SEE THIS DONE LEFT LESS OFTEN. 
          BUT WE DID THIS LAST YEAR, WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. 
          BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PROPER MAINTENANCE REGISTRAR SAW A REDUCTION OF 800 FOR THEIR REPAIRS. BUDGET FARMERS MARKET CREDIT CARD AND DEBIT CARD ADDED 1 200. I BELIEVE THESE WOULD BE RECOVERED BASED ON THE MARKET, GENERAL SERVICES CHANGE AND BUDGETED ELECTRICITY COSTS. SO, FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS AND NIGHT $54,096, THAT'S A 6.25% INCREASE FOR ALL COUNTY ELECTRIC ELECTRICITY COSTS. SO THIS CAME IN A LOT HIGHER. CHARLEY HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THIS IS AN ACCURATE PREDICTION OF THE INCREASE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'VE GOT MORE INFORMATION. 
          BUT WE DEFINITELY HONED THAT IN AGAIN. THANKS CHARLIE FOR HER HARD WORK. SHE REVIEWED EVERY SINGLE BILL FOR THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE HONED THAT IN AS FAR AS WE COULD. CHANGES IN BUDGET HEATING SERVICES, $939. WE DID SEE A DECREASE IN VEHICLE FUEL COSTS OF $19,050. AGAIN, POSTAGE HAS SEEN AN INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE COUNTY $8,021. THIS INCLUDES THIRD-PARTY BILLING AS WELL AS THEY PASS THOSE INCREASE IN POSTAGE COSTS ONTO THE COUNTY. TELEPHONE INFLATIONARY TREND INCREASES FOR $7,490. FIERY AND EMS DATA LINES INCREASE OF $960, CABLE SERVICE INCREASE OF $2,360. 
          THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STARLINK. THAT'S THE BULK OF THAT, $2,076. AGAIN, WE USE THAT IN EMERGENCIES, AS BACKUP FOR OUR INTERNET FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. 
          LEASE, RENT OF EQUIPMENT AND BUILDINGS, CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, THIS IS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE INCREASE HERE OF 17,800 IS FOR POLICE TASER EQUIPMENT. 
          POLICE SUPPLIES DECREASED. 
          AGAIN, TASERS OF $8,046 AND AN INCREASE OF $400 FOR THE SHERIFF. INCREASE OF TRAVEL AND TRAINING. NET INCREASE IN ALL TRAINING CONFERENCE REQUESTS WAS $38,000. AND THEN THE DETAILS HERE ARE IN THE CHOICES FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. 
          REGISTRAR SAW A REDUCTION OF $600 FOR MILEAGE, NET CHANGE AND TRAINING REQUESTS OF $5,135. SO I ACTUALLY, IS THIS FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING? OKAY, THAT'S MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. I JUST SAW THAT. 
          COUNTY ADMINISTRATION SAW A REDUCTION IN CONVENTION AND EDUCATION OF $10,000. AND I REDEDICATED THAT, OR I'M REQUESTING TO REDEDICATE THAT. TO COUNTYWIDE SAFETY TRAINING BUDGET, THIS WOULD COVER OSHA 10 CLASSES AND OSHA 30. WE CURRENTLY DON'T OFFER THOSE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, AND SO WANTING TO OFFER THOSE EITHER ONLINE OR IN PERSON. AS LONG AS ALONG WITH OTHER SAFETY CLASSES THAT ARE NEEDED ACROSS THE BOARD, SUCH AS WORKPLACE VIOLENCE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SAFETY TRAINING REQUESTS BY. 
          FOR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS, MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TOTAL $4,250. THIS WOULD BE FOR TRAINING THAT ISN'T NEEDED COUNTYWIDE, SCISSOR LIFT TRAINING, FORKLIFT TRAINING, CONFINED SPACES TRAINING, TRENCH TRAINING, THOSE KIND OF SAFETY TRAININGS THAT WOULDN'T NEED TO BE COVERED BY COUNTYWIDE SAFETY BUDGET. 
          FARMERS MARKET ACTIVITIES, YOUTH ACTIVITIES SAW AN INCREASE OF $600. DUES AND MEMBERSHIP FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS SAW AN INCREASE OF $1,739. OFFICE SUPPLIES FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS, AN INCREASE. $724 FOOD SUPPLIES 
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DECREASED, PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY ANIMAL SERVICES, A REDUCTION OF $3,000 PER PARTNERSHIP. AND THEN THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT FOOD REQUEST DID INCREASE OF $500. 
          THOSE COSTS ARE CURRENTLY NOT BEING FUNDED BY THE COUNTY, BUT THOSE FOLKS ARE REQUIRED TO STAY THERE. SO WE DO PROVIDE THEM THOSE FOOD, AND AGAIN, COFFEE, WATER AND SNACKS. 
          BUT AGAIN, CURRENTLY BEING COVERED FROM AN EMPLOYEE'S BUDGET. 
          MEDICAL LABORATORY SUPPLIES FOR FIRE AND EMS. WE DID SEE A SHIFT HERE OF $25,000. THAT'S A TOTAL INCREASE, EXCUSE ME, A NET INCREASE OF $25,000 HERE. 
          IT LOOKS BAD, BUT WE'VE TAKEN $69,500 AND MOVED IT FROM THAT LINE TO A DIFFERENT ONE UP HERE ABOVE. SO, AGAIN, JUST PUTTING IT IN THE APPROPRIATE LINE ITEM. 
          BUT THERE WAS A NET INCREASE OF $25,000. JANITORIAL SUPPLIES FOR GENERAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL SERVICES, INCREASE OF 500. 
          REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES, INFLATIONARY INCREASE. TRENDS FROM PRIOR AND CURRENT YEAR FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WAS $10,000. VEHICLE SUPPLIES, MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, A DECREASE OF $1,950. 
          UNIFORMS, WE SAW A NET INCREASE FOR $18,880. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE... WE'VE SEEN PAID INCREASES THIS YEAR FOR UNIFORMS FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, BUT FIRST RESPONDERS ARE SEEING AN INCREASE, AND SO THIS IS BASED ON, AGAIN, PRICE INCREASES WE'RE FACING THIS YEAR. BOOKS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS SAW A DECREASE OF $2,454 FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. 
          EDUCATION AND RECREATION SUPPLIES, A REDUCTION OF $2,000. MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS SAW AN INCREASE OF OTHER OPERATING SUPPLIES, $3,000. $528. STREET SIGNS. WE INCREASED TO $500. DATA PROCESSING SUPPLIES, EXCUSE ME, FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, SAW A DECREASE OF $1,500. WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN ELECTIONS BALLOTS OF $2,500. AGAIN, THAT'S BASED ON TRENDS. YOU MIGHT SEE INCREASES THIS YEAR AS WELL. 
          SAFETY SUPPLIES, BASED ON NEW REQUESTS, SO $4,150. 
          THIS IS FOR MULTIPLE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS. AGAIN, WE ARE IMPROVING OUR SAFETY PROGRAM, AND WITH THAT WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO WEAR... PROPER SAFETY GLASSES, REPLACE EXPIRED HELMETS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE COSTS ARE COMING FROM. 
          FIRE AND EMS COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, THEIR RACK SPACE HAS INCREASED. 
          THAT ACCOUNTS FOR $8,760, OR MOST OF THAT. AND THIS IS AN EMAIL TOOL THAT THEY USE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR, A SECURE EMAIL TOOL THEY USE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS. WE'VE PRICE CHECKED OTHERS, AND OTHERS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          SO, AGAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE RACK SPACES. INCREASING BASED ON MARKET TRENDS THERE. 
          OTHER POLICE SUPPLIES AND REPLAYING $55 INCREASE. A VITAROUTE TANK FUEL TANK MONITORING SYSTEM, $14,098, AN INCREASE THERE. POLICE FURNITURE AND FIXTURES OVERALL REDUCTION OF $288. ECC. 
          COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT REDUCTION OF $1,500. 
          EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT ACCOUNT CODE CHANGE. 
          SO IT MOVED FROM $48,107 UP TO $48,103, A $4,000 SHIFT THERE. SOFTWARE INFLATIONARY INCREASES OF $8,050 FOR THE GARAGE AND ECC. THIS IS FOR KEY VALET, PRIMARY SYSTEMS, ASSET WORKS. I JUST WANT TO NOTE ON SOME OF THESE SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THAT WE USE, THEY ALLOW US TO DO MORE WITH LESS EMPLOYEES, SO THEY INCREASE THE DEPARTMENT'S EFFICIENCY. THAT KEY VALET SYSTEM HAS ALLOWED US TO HAVE IT AUTOMATED INSTEAD OF SOMEONE SITTING THERE. SO AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME INVESTMENTS HERE AND SOME BENEFITS THERE FOR STAFFING REQUIREMENTS OR LIGHTING THAT LOAD. INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT ACROSS DEPARTMENTS DID SEE A DECREASE OF $2,100. 
          PROPERTY INSURANCE INFORMATION IS NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. 
          WE'LL LIKELY BE ABLE TO ABSORB THE INCREASES THERE IF WE DO NOT DECREASE THE BUDGET EXPENDITURES BELOW FY26. SIX, BASED ON BUDGET AMOUNTS AND KEY DEPARTMENTS. SO YOU CAN SEE. 
          AN EVALUATION OF BUDGETED NON-SALARY FOR ALL GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS IS UNDERWAY. WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS. WE ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND HOPEFULLY ADD SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE OR AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS BASED ON THAT RIGHT-SIZING WORK. WE DID LEAVE THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY, BASED ON LAST YEAR'S NUMBER, AT $113,971. AGAIN, ALL OF THESE EXPENDITURES TOTAL $209,000 AND $360. I'M SORRY. I 
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PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE A DRINK OF WATER. ANYWAY, SO THOSE ARE THE TOTAL FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH, ALL OF THOSE LINE ITEMS. THIS LEAVES THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH $752,000 AND $361 AVAILABLE FOR CHOICES. SO WE CAN GO OVER THAT SLIDE HERE SHORTLY. 
          OR THE THE CHOICES SLIDE. 
          THANK YOU BETSY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, MA'AM, BETSY CAN TAKE OVER FOR A SECOND. YEP. DO YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS? YEP, OKAY, ALL RIGHT. BACK UP ON LINE 95 ON GENERAL FUND REV. AND MUST DO. WE SAW A DECREASE THIS YEAR IN VRS. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THAT IS DERIVED FROM, AND IF WE SHOULD EXPECT AN INCREASE NEXT YEAR IF IT GOES THE OTHER DIRECTION. OUR RETIREMENT SYSTEM IS VALUED ANNUALLY, AND I KNOW THAT MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS DID SEE A REDUCTION. I BELIEVE THAT IS PARTIALLY PREDICATED ON STATE ACTIONS FROM THE VRS BOARD. I KNOW THERE WAS A REDUCTION IN THE STATEWIDE TEACHER RATE. I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES IN DINWIDDIE AND HOPEWELL ALSO SAW REDUCTIONS. 
          SO IT IS PROBABLY BASED ON VRS BOARD ACTIONS, AND THESE ARE SET FOR TWO YEARS. THEY ARE BIENNIAL RATES. SO THOSE VRS AND GROUP TERM LIFE INSURANCE RATES ARE GOOD FOR FY27 AND FOR FY28. WE REALLY WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THAT NEXT BIENNIAL VALUATION WHETHER THEY WILL GO UP. OKAY. KRISTEN, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MR. CHAIR, IS THIS OKAY? ALL RIGHT. MS. PUDLOW, IS IT OKAY IF WE GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THE VMWARE FUNDS? I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO GET THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE BUDGET OR GO ANOTHER DIRECTION. YES. SO I DID TALK TO OUR IT DIRECTOR ABOUT THAT, SO NOT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT, BUT HE'S HERE IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL. 
          BUT ESSENTIALLY, THERE ARE SOME LARGER EQUIPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PURCHASED THIS YEAR OUT OF THE IT BUDGET FOR, YOU KNOW, IT EQUIPMENT. AND SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE MIGHT BE ABILITY TO ABSORB SOME COSTS IN FY27, JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THOSE LARGER PURCHASES HAVE TAKEN PLACE THIS YEAR. 
          SO, YES, SIR, THERE MIGHT BE AN ABILITY TO KIND OF REDUCE CONSERVATIVELY. 
          OKAY. 186, VEHICLE FUEL. AND I'M GOING TO GIVE ROW NUMBERS, NOT ITEM NUMBERS. 186. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ROW 186. 
          OH. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, GOT IT. 
          IS THAT A REDUCTION IN FUEL, REDUCTION IN TRIP? THAT IS A REDUCTION IN THE USE OF VEHICLE FUEL. SO WE PURCHASED A NEW FUEL SYSTEM. 
          I'M SORRY, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF IT. FUEL FOCUS. 
          AND SO WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SINCE WE'VE PURCHASED FUEL FOCUS. AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN A REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF FUEL USED. THAT'S BEEN LAST YEAR, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE SEEING DOWNTRENDS. OKAY. AND PRICE PER GALLON CHANGES AS WELL. THANK YOU, BETSY. OKAY. 
          WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT FLEET MANAGEMENT VERSUS MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT? A LONG TIME. IT PREDATES BETSY, SO SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. FUTURE QUESTION. WE'VE GOT A PRETTY FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD TELEPHONE INCREASE, AND I KNOW CLIFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH NEXTIVA TO MIGRATE US OFF THOSE OLD TECHNOLOGIES. 
          SO I WOULD EXPECT A DECREASE IN THAT LINE ITEM NEXT YEAR, BUT IS THAT A VALID ASSUMPTION? I WOULD HOPE SO, SIR, BUT I'LL KNOW MORE AS WE GET INTO NEXT QUARTER, TO BE HONEST, AS WE DIVE INTO THAT PROJECT. OKAY. 
          COMMITTING ME IN. CLIFF'S STAND. CLIFF, YEAH. THANK YOU, SIR. TO ADD, BRIEFLY, WHAT WE'LL SEE MOSTLY, THE NEXT YEAR. THE VOIP COST IS NOT ITSELF GOING TO GO DOWN, BUT WE'LL SEE SOME COSTS FOR OUR VERIZON LANDLINE PLANS THAT GO DOWN. SOME OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE COMPONENTS OF THAT IS THAT WE HAVE LARGE VERIZON CIRCUITS THAT SUPPORTED THE OLD PHONE SYSTEMS, AND THOSE ARE $500, $600 A MONTH. SO THOSE WILL BE COMING OFF ONCE ALL THE NUMBERS ARE TRANSFERRED AND THOSE CIRCUITS GO AWAY. SO WE'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A BALANCE OUT THERE. 
          AND WE ARE EXPECTING AS WELL, ON THE WIRELESS SIDE OF THE HOUSE, SOME CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE US SOME COST SAVINGS WITH OUR WIRELESS DEVICES ALSO. 
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OKAY. WHILE YOU'RE STANDING THERE, RACKSPACE. YES, SIR. 
          THE BALLPARK USER COUNT FOR THE VOLUNTEERS? I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 75 TO 80. 
          75, OKAY, USERS. I'M NOT SAYING WE TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM, BUT ARE WE TRACKING UTILIZATION ON THAT? I PERSONALLY KNOW IT'S MOSTLY HANDLED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL FOLLOW. I WILL SAY THAT WE DID, WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT THE PRICE INCREASE, TRY TO DO SOME INVESTIGATION FOR THEM AND LOOK AT SOME OTHER POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. RIGHT NOW, RACKSPACE IS ONE OF THE LOWEST COST OUT THERE. 
          THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER SERVICES WHERE MAYBE $1 OR $2 MORE PER USER COULD GET SOME EXTRA FUNCTIONALITY. IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT, BUT AS FAR AS A COST PERSPECTIVE FOR A MANAGEABLE SYSTEM, HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING YET, EVEN WITH THEIR COST INCREASE. ALL RIGHT, I THINK THAT'S ALL I NEED YOU FOR. I'LL BE AROUND, SIR. MR. PUGH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. 
          WHY, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE VOLUNTEERS USE RACKSPACE. WHY WOULDN'T WE, WHAT'S THE FEE TO PUT THEM ON, LIKE THE COUNTIES? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, SIR. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THE WAY THAT MICROSOFT BUNDLES THEIR PACKAGES FOR GOVERNMENT, THE WAY THEY DO. IT'S MORE ALL-INCLUSIVE. WE'D BE PAYING FOR THEM TO HAVE ALL THE OTHER PRODUCTS, LIKE THE MICROSOFT OFFICE PRODUCTS AS WELL, AND IT'S CLOSER TO $30, $35 PER USER VERSUS, YEAH, THIS, WHICH IS LIKE $6. MR. WITT? IT'S JUST A CONCERN. I KNOW THE FUEL FOCUS SAVED US A LOT. IT ALSO DOWNLOADS ERROR CODES AND STUFF. THAT HELPS US ON THE PM AND MAINTENANCE AND MAINTAINING THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE GARAGE TO KEEP TRACK OF IT. OIL, AS OF YESTERDAY, WAS OVER $70 A BARREL. SO I THINK YOU MIGHT SEE THAT EATING UP PRETTY QUICK, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THEIR FUEL STAYS UP. GAS HAS JUMPED 30 CENTS ON AVERAGE, AND DIESEL FUEL'S GONE DOWN THERE AT 40. AS OF TODAY. THEY DIDN'T WAIT LONG. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE FISCAL YEAR 25 AND LOOK AT THE PRICE OF FUEL BACK THEN AND MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THAT LINE? SURE. SURE. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT PER GALLON SPEND VERSUS GALLONS USED AS WELL. THANKS. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE MAY NEED TO UPTICK THAT BASED ON THE NATIONAL LANDSCAPE OR THE WORLDWIDE LANDSCAPE, REALLY. WELL, I HOPE NOT, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO FEEL IT. ALL THE QUESTIONS? OKAY, PROCEED ON. NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSE CHOICE TAB FOR DISCUSSION. SO THIS YEAR, AGAIN, THIS LINE RIGHT HERE WITH PURPLE MIGHT LOOK GRAY, THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD. OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS NOT WEIGHTED. IT IS JUST PART FOR A DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD ON SOME AREAS THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. SO, THE FIRST AREA FOR THE CHOICES SECTION WOULD BE REAL ESTATE TAX CONSIDERATIONS BY THE BOARD. 
          SO, AGAIN, THE BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE DECISIONS HERE. I WON'T GO INTO ANY MORE DETAIL UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S CURRENTLY AT 82 CENTS. IT WAS AT 82 CENTS LAST YEAR, BUT THERE WAS A REASSESSMENT, SO PEOPLE SAW DIFFERENT BILLS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A REASSESSMENT THIS YEAR, SO THE SAME BILLS THAT WERE SENT OUT LAST YEAR, UNLESS THERE'S BEEN A SUPPLEMENT OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF ADDITION OR CORRECTION REVENUE, OR, EXCUSE ME, THE BILLS WOULD BE THE SAME THIS YEAR AS LAST. IF THE BOARD CHOSE TO LEAVE THAT AT 82 CENTS. OTHER REVENUE CONSIDERATIONS, WHETHER TO REMOVE... OR CONSIDER THE PLANNING INCREASES THAT WERE JUST DISCUSSED. SO AGAIN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD CHOSE NOT TO DO, YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE. 
          AND THAT WOULD CHANGE THE VALUE AVAILABLE HERE FOR OTHER DECISIONS. OTHER RESOURCE CONSIDERATIONS, AGAIN, INCREASE POTENTIAL INCREASE IN PARK AND RECREATION FEES. 
          SO EITHER 10 OR 20 DOLLAR INCREASE IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THOSE. I DID RECOMMEND A 10 DOLLAR INCREASE. 
          AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THAT DEPARTMENT HAS NOT HAD AN INCREASE OR A CHANGE IN STAFFING SINCE, I BELIEVE, 2007. BUT THE WORKLOAD, AS YOU SEE, WE'VE ADDED PARKS. WE'VE ADDED ALSO RECREATION SERVICES, AND SO THE SERVICES HAVE CONTINUED TO INCREASE AND GROW. IF THE BOARD WERE TO CONSIDER AN INCREASE OF $10, THAT'S ENOUGH TO FUND A PART-TIME POSITION. 
          AND AGAIN, I HUMBLY JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          CAN I TAP INTO THAT REAL QUICK? YES, SIR. 
          SO A FEW PARENTS IN DIFFERENT SPORTS HAD APPROACHED ME ABOUT EMPORIA, DINWIDDIE, OTHER LOCALITIES AROUND US BEING $50 TO $55 FOR THE SAME SPORTS. WE 
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HAD EMAILED WITH MR. ROTZEL ABOUT THAT, AND WE CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE SOME, WHEN YOU PAY A FEE FOR REC, IT'S NOT COVERING THE ENTIRE COST OF THAT CHILD'S SPORT. AND SO TO LOOK AT EITHER A $10 OR $20 INCREASE, $20 WOULD PUT US IN LINE WITH THE OTHER LOCALITIES. 
          THAT'S IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT CONSIDERATION ON THE OPTIONS OR CHOICE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE BOARD WOULD BE TO CONTRIBUTE THE DEBT FUND RESERVE. THAT'S FALLING OFF OF $522,443. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT, OR IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT BACK INTO THE DEBT RESERVE FUND, IF WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ADDING ANY POSITIONS, ESSENTIALLY. IN ORDER TO CONSIDER ANY ADDED POSITIONS. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M RECOMMENDING POSITIONS BASED ON LIFE, HEALTH, AND SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS. I DID PUT THIS AT ZERO AND NOT PUT THAT. WE PUT ANY CONTRIBUTIONS THERE FOR THE DEBT RESERVE FUND. AND IN TRANSPARENCY, THE DEBT RESERVE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE AND CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE DOWN PAYMENTS OF FUTURE DEBT. 
          SO AS WE SEE DEBT FALLING OFF, AGAIN, DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR A WAY FORWARD, AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO POTENTIALLY NEEDING TO GO OUT, AGAIN, THAT'S A CONSIDERATION AS WELL. 
          SO JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. THEN ALSO TO RETAIN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN THE MUST-DO PART OF THE BUDGET. AND I RECOMMENDED TAKING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES OUT. OF THIS AND PUTTING IT AS IT IS ELIGIBLE AND FITS WITHIN THE COUNTY'S POLICY FOR A ONE-TIME EXPENSE. I DO THINK THAT THIS IS CRITICALLY NEEDED, THAT I'VE SAT WITH THAT DEPARTMENT EVERY TIME THEY GIVE ME KIND OF A ZONING PLANNING PERMIT OR AN APPLICATION. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE AND LOOK AND SEE IF IT MEETS THE THE ORDINANCE. 
          BUT THEN THEY ALSO HAVE TO DO A SECONDARY REVIEW AND SLAP DOWN THE STATE CODE AND SEE WHAT IT DOESN'T MEET WITH THE STATE CODE. SO EACH REVIEW IS TAKING TREMENDOUSLY LONGER THAN IT SHOULD. IF WE CAN CORRECT OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH HASN'T BEEN UPDATED IN SOME INSTANCES SINCE THE 60S, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD REDUCE THE WORKLOAD ON OUR STAFF AND PROVIDE BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE CONSIDERATIONS. SO I DO THINK THAT THAT IS A WORTHWHILE CONSIDERATION, BUT I TOOK IT OUT AS A ONE-TIME, A POTENTIAL ONE-TIME COST, AGAIN, RECOMMENDING FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION. MR. CHAIR, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? YES, SIR. MS. PUDLOW, THE $100,000 FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHAT SORT OF TIME FRAME WOULD THE CONSULTANT BE WILLING TO COMMIT TO? IS THIS GOING TO DRASTICALLY SPEED IT UP, WHERE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GET DONE IN MONTHS VERSUS POTENTIALLY YEARS? WELL, TO BE TRANSPARENT, SIR, THAT PROCESS PROVIDES ABILITY FOR COMMUNITY INPUT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS... BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THAT ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE HAS DRAMATIC AND QUICK IMPACTS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPERS. AND ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. SO THAT ONE, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ANOTHER 12-MONTH PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, IT PROVIDES THAT. THEY WOULD FACILITATE A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT, SO THAT WHEN THE BOARD IS GETTING THOSE ORDINANCE CHANGES, THEY UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S THOUGHTS ON THOSE, SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS. I'LL TAKE THIS QUICK. I GUESS FOR ME, LISTENING TO MR. BALDWIN AND NOT REALIZING THAT WE WERE THAT FAR BEHIND ON THESE ORDINANCES THAT LINE UP WITH THE STATE, THEY'VE GOT SOME, AND I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE HERE, THEY STILL GOT SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. 
          THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT FORCING DOWN, WHICH IS GOING TO PUSH US FURTHER BEHIND THE CURVE. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT THEY CURRENTLY REQUIRE. AND LEGALLY, WE HAVE TO. SO, I MEAN, DAY IF YOU DO, DAY IF YOU DON'T. I WONDER IF THE STATE WOULD OFFER ANY REVENUE SOURCES FOR UPDATING YOUR ZONING ORDINANCES BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATION THAT THEY'VE PASSED DOWN. THAT WOULD BE NICE, BUT I THINK THEY'RE ALL ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN GET. 
          TRUE. ARE YOU TELLING JOKES TONIGHT? I THINK THE STATE'S NOT GIVING ANY JOKES. I WAS BEING FACETIOUS WHEN I MADE THAT STATEMENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, MR. CHAIR. 
          UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE RELATED TO FIRE DEPARTMENT STUFF. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT RACK SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I DID NOTICE THERE WAS A LINE ITEM FOR FIRST, WAS IT FIRST ARRIVING? IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          I DIDN'T WRITE IT NOW. I THINK THERE'S ONE, I'M IN THERE FOR THAT. YEAH. FIRST ARRIVING BOARDS. OKAY. MY QUESTION IS, IS THE INTENT? AND A URL HAD TO GET WITH CHIEF, BUT IS THE INTENT TO GO TO FIRST ARRIVING? SO WE WOULD DO AWAY WITH 
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LIKE THE G THROUGH, OR WHAT IS IT CALLED? THE, UM, G2 APP, AND WOULD THAT OPEN THE ABILITY WITH THAT SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE FREE UP SOME OF THE EMAIL STUFF? ACTUALLY, SIR, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THESE FIRST ARRIVING DASHBOARDS ARE NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AT THE FOUR VOLUNTEER STATIONS. 
          THIS WOULD MAKE THOSE FOUR VOLUNTEER STATIONS HAVE THE SAME SETUP AS THE OTHER STATIONS, SIR. SO IT WOULDN'T IMPACT ANYTHING ELSE, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          IT'S A STANDALONE KIND OF CORRECTING AND MAKING THOSE STATIONS HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF FUNCTIONALITY. OKAY. SO FIRST, ARRIVIN' IS A PROGRAM THAT ENCAPSULATES PROBABLY TEN DIFFERENT THINGS, AND SOME OF IT MAY ALLEVIATE THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO BUDGET FOR. OKAY. SO MAYBE THAT'S A CONVERSATION YOU ALL HAVE AND ASK HIM HIS THOUGHTS ON IT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CONTINUE. OKAY. 
          NEXT CONSIDERATION FOR THE BOARD WOULD BE THE SCHOOL TRANSFER, WHETHER THE BOARD WOULD CHOOSE TO LEAVE THAT AT THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF 19 MILLION. SORRY, IT'S KIND OF BLOCKED HERE, BUT I KNOW I COVERED IT IN THE LAST SLIDE. AND IF YOU, AGAIN, IF BOARD MADE A SELECTION ON THAT, IT WOULD SHOW UP HERE AND BE A REDUCTION TO THIS AMOUNT OR AN INCREASE, SORRY, DEPENDING ON THE BOARD'S DECISION. I APOLOGIZE. AND THEN ADJUSTED PERCENTAGES, SHARES OF REVENUES. SO FOR THE MOU CALCULATION, HERE, AGAIN, JUST SOME THINGS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE BOARD. BETSY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, CALCULATIONS THERE. IF YOU CHOOSE TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE ABOVE, OF COURSE, THE REAL ESTATE TAX IS SHARED WITH THE SCHOOL DIVISION. NOT ONLY DOES YOUR REAL ESTATE TAX RATE AFFECT REAL ESTATE TAXES, IT AFFECTS YOUR MOBILE HOME TAX AND YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE TAX. 
          REVENUE, WHICH IS TAXED AT THE SAME RATE AS YOUR REAL ESTATE TAX IS, 82 CENTS PER $100. 
          DOLLARS. I JUST OFFERED THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THOSE REVENUES ARE SHARED WITH THE SCHOOL DIVISION. 
          QUESTIONS? YES. ALRIGHT, SO IN OUR JOINT MEETING, I HAD TALKED ABOUT CARVE OUTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T REALIZE WAS WHEN WE CARVE OUT A PENNY, THEY LOSE THAT 36 PERCENT. ARE WE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION? LIKE WITH THIS WITH 81 CENT, IF WE'RE TAXING AT 82 CENT, WE'VE GOT THREE PENNIES DEDICATED, ARE WE FACTORING? THEY'RE NOT GETTING THAT, OR ARE WE MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE? WE ARE CARVING THAT OUT. YES, SIR. YOU CAN'T DEDICATE IT AND SHARE IT, TOO. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE LOOKING AT IT WHEN WE DID IT TO GO, OKAY, HEY, WE KNOW WE'RE DOING THIS, SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE EXTRA. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS IT. WE ARE CURRENTLY TRANSFERRING AN AMOUNT THAT IS HIGHER THAN THE REVENUE SHARING CALCULATION. THAT WAS PART OF THAT LONG POWERPOINT THAT I DID ON THE 17TH OF FEBRUARY. WE ARE CONTRIBUTING UP. SLIGHTLY MORE THAN THAT CALCULATION CALLS FOR. OKAY. SO NEXT CONSIDERATION HERE WOULD BE THE HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE PASSING, WHICH IF THE BOARD WOULD CHOOSE TO PASS THAT IN ON TO THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES. AND THEN AGAIN, SAME THING FOR THE SOCIAL SERVICES, EXCEPT IS A SEPARATE ITEM, BUT IT'S THE SAME CONSIDERATION THERE. OKAY, SO GRANT FUNDED POSITION LOSSES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AGAIN, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION OF WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN THE MUST-DOS? I DID RECOMMEND MAINTAINING THAT IN THE MUST-DOS IF WE WANT ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, BUT I CAN. AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT IS A LIFE HEALTH SAFETY CONSIDERATION FOR ADDING POSITIONS. CAREER DEVELOPMENT INCREASES FOR POLICE OFFICERS. THESE ARE FOR OFFICERS THAT HAVE COMPLETED CAREER DEVELOPMENT ACTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          SO, BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROCESS, THIS WOULD BE AN INCREASE THAT THEY HAVE EARNED THIS YEAR. SO I RECOMMENDED THAT TO THE BOARD. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND POLICE. E1 PROVIDED MARKET REGRADES FOR FOUR POSITIONS. 
          SO WE DID RECOMMEND MARKET GRADE INCREASES FOR THREE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER POSITIONS. THIS WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $21,656. I DID 
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RECOMMEND THAT INCREASE. WE'VE HAD A VACANT ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER POSITION FOR QUITE A WHILE. AGAIN, BECOMING DIFFICULT TO FILL. SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT THIS IS TO MAKE IT MORE MATCH THE MARKET GRADE. 
          GARAGE REGRADES FOR MECHANIC POSITIONS, WE RECOMMEND, I RECOMMEND CONSIDERING THIS. 
          THAT'S $19,765. I DO WANT TO JUST SHOW, BECAUSE WE HAD HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, THESE ARE THE MECHANIC POSITION AMOUNTS. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE, EVEN APPARATUS TECHNICIAN, WE WERE ANNOUNCING $47,722. 
          FOR AN ANNUAL SALARY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARISON THERE. 
          BUT JUST FOR MECHANICS, WE ARE BELOW WHAT OTHER LOCALITIES ARE PAYING FOR MECHANICS. SO, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO INCREASE SO THAT WE CAN BE SOMEWHAT COMPARABLE AND COMPETITIVE FOR HIRING POSITIONS THERE FOR MECHANICS. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM. UNDER THE, LIKE... 
          COMPARISONS IS LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, COLONIAL HEIGHTS. DO THEY HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR AN APPARATUS TECHNICIAN? THE YES, SIR, THAT'S ABOVE. 
          UH, THAT WOULD BE THE 50, 960, OKAY, AND SO JUST FOR A MECHANIC, THEY'RE PAYING 49, UH, 601. AND ARE THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS IN OTHER LOCALITIES MATCH OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS? HONESTLY, I DO NOT KNOW, I DO NOT KNOW. 
          OKAY, I COULD WORK TO FIND OUT. 
          I'M SURE IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE MORE INFORMATION? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? PLEASE CONTINUE. OKAY. OKAY. 
          OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS OR CONSIDERATIONS WOULD BE MARKET REGRADE FOR THE FLEET SUPERVISOR POSITION FOR THE GARAGE. THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $7,050. AGAIN, THIS IS TO... MAKE IT COMPARABLE WITH OTHER STEP POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR COMPARABLE JOBS IN THE COUNTY, AND THEN MARKET. REGRADE FOR FOUR GS MAINTENANCE MECHANICS, RECLASSIFYING FOR GENERAL SERVICES TO FACILITIES TECHNICIANS. 
          THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $22,599. THEY ARE GOING THROUGH A LOT MORE IN THEIR JOBS WITH THE CURRENT DIRECTOR. 
          THEIR POSITIONS HAVE CHANGED. 
          BASED ON, AGAIN, WHO WE HAVE AS THE DIRECTOR, AND THEY'RE DOING A LOT MORE THAN THEY USED TO. AND, AGAIN, THAT'S MARKET REGRADE AS WELL. 
          SO TOTAL FOR THOSE INCREASES IS $71,070, AGAIN, FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION. MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE? YES, SIR. MS. PUDLOW, ON THE REGRADES, I KNOW IN THE POLICY, I THINK IT TALKS ABOUT WHEN YOU MOVE SOMEBODY UP THROUGH THE GRADES, YOU MATCH A SALARY PLUS. UP TO 5% IN AN APPROPRIATE STEP. 
          DO YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR HR, I'M SURE, BUT HOW THE APPROPRIATE STEP PIECE OF THAT WORKS? THAT DRIVES SOME OF THESE NUMBERS? I'D BE HAPPY TO FIND OUT MORE, SIR. I'M LEARNING. I'M CONTINUOUSLY LEARNING. SO THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN FURTHER. THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN A QUICK QUESTION, TOO. DID WE COMPARE TO OTHER LOCALITIES ON THE STRUCTURE OF THESE JOBS AS WELL? THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS I CAN FIND OUT. 
          WELL, NOT ONLY JOB DESCRIPTIONS, BUT WHAT THEY'RE, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PAYING AS FAR AS IN LINE WITH A GENERAL SERVICES. OR, YES, I JUST A MANAGER. I'M HAPPY TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON BOTH FOR JOB DESCRIPTIONS, UH, THE STEP, INCREASE CONSIDERATIONS, AND THEN, UM, THE MARKET FOR THE OTHERS AS WELL. YES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? PLEASE CONTINUE. OKAY. REGRADES FOR THREE POSITIONS PERFORMING DUTIES ABOVE THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION. 
          SO WE HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES PERSON CURRENTLY OPERATING AS IF THEY WERE A MANAGER. THAT WAS DUE TO NEEDS OF THE POSITION. AGAIN, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THAT DEPARTMENT TO KEEP THE COUNTY WHERE WE NEED TO BE. THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $20,722. I DO RECOMMEND, AND THAT FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION. 
          ANIMAL SERVICES. AGAIN, PROVIDING A GREAT INCREASE FOR RECLASSIFYING A KENNEL ATTENDANT FOR AN ADOPTION SERVICE COORDINATOR. WE CURRENTLY HAVE PULLED SOMEONE OFF KENNEL ATTENDANT TO DO THIS WORK. SO, AGAIN, IT WOULD JUST HELP US CORRECT WHAT THE ACTUAL NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITH. GARAGE PROVIDE A GREAT INCREASE TO RECLASSIFY CURRENT ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT SPECIALIST TO AN OFFICE MANAGER. BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE... OFFICE 
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THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THAT ROLE, SO RECOMMEND A CORRECTION TO THAT AS WELL. THE TOTAL OF THESE WOULD BE $37,661. 
          DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE? ANY QUESTIONS? NOT AT THIS TIME. I KNOW. A STEP INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. AGAIN, THIS TAKES US, WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING, I BELIEVE, AT 65% OF THE STEP. PROGRAM. SO THIS WOULD BE IN A STEP INCREASE. 
          THE TOTAL FOR ACROSS THE BOARD IS $398,642. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE, I BELIEVE, AN AVERAGE OF 1.5% INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. MARKET SCALE COMPARISON BASED ON POSITIONS, I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND, AGAIN, BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, I DID NOT FIND FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR THESE. BUT TO PUT IT IN A STEP, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE. FIRE AND EMS IS ASKING FOR A 7% MEDIC REGRADE AND ADJUSTMENT FOR THEIR POSITIONS, AND THEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING A 5% COLA INCREASE AS WELL. AGAIN, BASED ON LIFE HEALTH SAFETY POSITIONS BEING ADDED, I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND IT IN MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. 
          AGAIN, 3% COLA FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. THIS IS ONE OF THE HELPFUL CONSIDERATIONS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ADDING OR PASSING ON THE HEALTH CARE COSTS. THE INCREASE OF 5.1 TO EMPLOYEES, DEPENDING ON THE BOARD'S DECISIONS ON THE BUDGET AND FUNDING. IF WE'RE AGAIN, IF WE'RE UNABLE TO FUND ANY KIND OF COAL INCREASES, I THINK A HELPFUL CONSIDERATION IS ABSORBING THE 5.1 PERCENT INCREASE FOR HEALTH CARE COSTS. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT IS A CHALLENGING YEAR AND OUR OUR DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE YEAR'S CHALLENGES FOR FUNDING. IT IS NOT A REASSESSMENT YEAR. NEW POSITION RECLASSIFICATION. AGAIN, WE HAD 22 POSITIONS REQUESTED FROM DEPARTMENTS. I AM RECOMMENDING A RECLASSIFICATION FOR A POLICE LIEUTENANT TO A CAPTAIN. THIS WOULD MAKE THAT DIVISION MATCH THE OTHER TWO DIVISIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF $16,222. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO SCROLL THROUGH UNLESS THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS ON ALL OF THE OTHERS. 
          I DID RECOMMEND A POLICE RECORDS CLERK. THIS IS BASED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING ABLE TO, THEY'VE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE WITH GRANTS. AND SO AGAIN, THAT ADDED GRANT, DID ALLOW FUNDS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR A RECORDS CLERK IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THEY HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BEING A CRITICAL PRIORITY. I DID ALSO RECOMMEND A KENNEL ATTENDANT, AGAIN, BASED ON NEEDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT. THESE POSITIONS WOULD BE HIGHLY IMPACTFUL FOR THE DEPARTMENTS. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT IS A CHALLENGING YEAR TO TRY TO MAKE THE KIND OF DECISIONS, BUT I FELT LIKE THESE WOULD BE HUGELY IMPACTFUL FOR THE COUNTY AND THE DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE REQUESTED THOSE POSITIONS. AGAIN, THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR A DEPUTY SHERIFF, LIFE, HEALTH, SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS THERE. 
          IF YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION. THESE ARE THE POSITIONS THAT I THINK ABOUT WHEN I'M DRIVING HOME AT NIGHT, OR WHEN I'M ON MY WAY TO WORK, OR ANY OTHER TIME I'M NOT AT WORK. AGAIN, JUST CONSIDERATIONS THERE, SO I DO RECOMMEND THAT. I DID RECOMMEND FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION, FUNDING THE PARTIAL POSITION FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY TECHNOLOGY COORDINATOR. FORT LEE HAS REQUESTED THROUGH HEADQUARTERS DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY TO FUND HALF OF THIS POSITION. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT REQUEST BE APPROVED. AND WE'RE HOPING TO FIND OUT IN MAY. SO AGAIN, THERE'S SOME COST SHARE ADVANTAGES HERE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE PERSON DOING THIS JOB. 
          IF THEY ARE OUT, IT CAN BE PRETTY CHALLENGING FOR THE DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, A CRITICAL POSITION. THIS BENEFITS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT DEPARTMENT AND THE ECC. SO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS BENEFIT FROM THIS CONSIDERATION. AND THEN AGAIN, WAS ABLE TO FIND BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT I WAS CONSIDERING. 
          ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY. WE'VE ALL HEARD THE BUDGET THERE THERE WAS CHALLENGES AND THERE'S CHALLENGES IN PROSECUTING MISDEMEANORS. 
          THAT PLACES AN ADDED BURDEN ON OUR OFFICERS. SO AGAIN THIS, I SEE THIS POSITION AS POTENTIALLY BENEFITING MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. POSITIONS ABOVE OR RATHER NOT LISTED ABOVE. I DID NOT RECOMMEND A LOT OF THE REGRADES AND POSITIONS FROM FIRING EMS, BUT RATHER BASED ON, AGAIN, WHAT BENEFITS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, I AM RECOMMENDING CONSIDERATION FOR THE BOARD FOR A DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF. THAT DEPARTMENT, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A SHELF, 
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SO IF THERE ARE CHANGEOVER IN POSITIONS. THAT THERE IS SOMEONE THERE TO KIND OF HOLD THAT DEPARTMENT. I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE THAT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THERE'S PEOPLE THERE WHO CAN STEP UP AND KIND OF HOLD AND MAKE SURE THINGS ARE CONTINUING TO WORK THE WAY THEY ARE. AND SO, BASED ON JUST STABILITY AND STABILIZING A DEPARTMENT THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE HUGELY BENEFICIAL, BUT HAVE THEM ALSO NOT JUST OPERATE AS A DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF, BUT A FIRE MARSHAL AS WELL. 
          AGAIN, THAT BENEFITS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. WE'VE GOT AN ECC DIRECTOR THAT HAS A THREE-PAGE LONG JOB DESCRIPTION RIGHT NOW, AND HE'S CURRENTLY OPERATING AS A FIRE MARSHAL, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE THINGS HE'S UNABLE TO GET TO. AND SO, AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A LIFE HEALTH SAFETY RECOMMENDATION FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION. AND THEN I HAVE, AGAIN, RECOMMENDED TO FIREFIGHTER MEDICS. AND, AGAIN, I WENT OUT ON MY OWN. SO JUST HAVE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THE FIRE CHIEF MAY HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AND ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS HERE. 
          BUT THIS WAS BASED ON THE OVERTIME THAT WE'VE BEEN FUNDING FOR FIRE AND EMS, TWO PEOPLE TO RUN A FIRE ENGINE, WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO AGAIN, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WOULD, THOSE ARE MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION. AND THEN AGAIN, THE ADDITION OF THE TWO FIRE EMS POSITIONS RECOMMENDED A REDUCTION OF 60,000 FOR THEIR OVERTIME BUDGET. 
          THANK YOU. $178,000 OF THEIR OVERTIME BUDGET IS MANDATED, SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COUNT AS THEIR OVERTIME BUDGET. I THINK THAT WOULD PUT IT AT ABOUT $377,000. AGAIN, AS WE GET THESE FIREFIGHTERS OUT OF SCHOOL AND TRAINING, I BELIEVE WE CAN KIND OF STABILIZE THAT OVERTIME BUDGET AND FIGURE OUT WHERE IT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE. MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR. DO THOSE TWO FIRE MEDIC POSITIONS IN THIS TOOL ASSUME CURRENT? SALARIES OR WITH 1% RAISE, OR WITH 7% INCREASE. IT WAS NOT, IT WAS THE MISS PUDDLE. OH, DID NOT RECOMMEND A COLA IF YOU PUT A COLA BETWEEN 1 AND 7% FOR FIRE MEDICS, IT WILL CHANGE THE COST FOR THAT. THANK YOU. LET'S SHARE OUT OF TWO. WHAT ARE YOU ACCOMPLISHING WITH THAT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I KNOW WE NEED THREE TO COVER AN ENTIRE SHIFT, SIR, SO WE ARE ADDING STAFFING THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE TODAY. 
          THIS MAY ALLOW THEM TO NOT USE OVERTIME FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE TIME OFF. I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE HAVING TO USE OVERTIME FOR SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE LEAVE. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, I THINK IT DOES ALLEVIATE SOME PORTIONS. IT MAY NOT COVER AN ENTIRE SHIFT. 
          I KNOW WE WOULD NEED THREE. 
          AND THAT IS SOMETHING THE FIRE CHIEF DID BRING UP. OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE A PRICE TO IS THANKS. 
          MAYBE TWO PER SHIFT UNDER PART-TIME, FIVE DAYS A WEEK, 12-HOUR DAYS, AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON A PRICE POINT. AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, SHOW A COMPARISON WHERE IT'S BOTH CERTIFIED FIREFIGHTER AND EMT, AND THEN ONE EMS ONLY. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT PRICE POINT COSTS, IF POSSIBLE. 
          YES, SIR. QUESTIONS? PLEASE CONTINUE. YES, SIR. AGAIN, BASED ON MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION, I DID RESTORE THE CDCC ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST PART-TIME WAGES, AND I ALSO ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT IS A NEED, THAT POSITION. 
          BUT, AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATIONS, I FELT, WERE BASED ON LIFE HEALTH SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS, AND, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THIS IS A NEEDED POSITION, SO I DID ASK CONSIDERATION FOR ADDING SOME PART-TIME ASSISTANCE THERE. AND THE RECORDS, THE FULL-TIME RECORDS CLERK WOULD PROVIDE SOME COST SAVINGS. AND PART-TIME WAGES. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE A REDUCTION IN POLICE DEPARTMENTS PART-TIME WAGES BASED ON THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOARD. OTHER PART-TIME OR FUNDING REQUESTS. INCLUDE AGAIN. IF THE FEES WERE INCREASED FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, IT SEEMS EQUITABLE THAT THEY WOULD BENEFIT IN SEEING STAFFING INCREASES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SELF-FUNDED. SO PART-TIME FOR GRASS-CUTTING, THAT IS SO THAT WOULD BE AN UNDER MAINTENANCE, NON SALARY REQUESTS THAT WERE. I WON'T GO OVER EVERY LINE ITEM UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, BUT I DO HAVE SOME HIGHLIGHTS HERE. AGAIN. 
          THESE WERE REQUESTS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAD ASKED FOR, BUT WE FELT WE'RE NOT IN THE MUST-DOS AND ARE THERE FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION. WE COULD CONSIDER THE TEMPLE PARK COURT AND BASKETBALL COURT IMPROVEMENTS TO BE PULLED OUT OF TOURISM FUNDS AS A ONE-TIME EXPENSE. AGAIN, IF THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER OR CONTINUE TO CONSIDER DOING DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLANS FOR MANAGING RESULTS, THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED ONE-TIME 
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FUNDING. THERE WAS AN ATV REPLACEMENT REQUEST OUT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. AGAIN, THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY LOOKED AT UNDER TOURISM. THERE ARE SOME FUNDS FOR BEING REQUESTED FOR COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR CONVENTION AND EDUCATION. 
          THERE WAS AN INCREASE HERE, AND I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW HIRED AN ADDITIONAL COUNTY ATTORNEY, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COME UP FOR DISCUSSION, AS THERE MIGHT BE A NEED FOR THE INCREASE THERE BASED ON TWO FOLKS. FIRE AND EMS MAINTENANCE REPAIR SUPPLIES. I KNOW WE'RE DEVELOPING A STATION 8 LIST. COULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER THE 2019 BOND PROCEEDS FOR THIS EXPENSE. AND THEN THE COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, AGAIN, SERIES 2019 BOND PROCEEDS COULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. TURNOUT GEAR, THEY DO HAVE ONE PENNY MONEY FOR FIRE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE FOR THIS. AND THEN FIRE, FURNITURE, AND FIXTURES. 
          AGAIN, YOU COULD CONSIDER THE USE OF THE 2019 BOND PROCEEDS FOR STATION 5 NEEDS. AND THEN FIRE AND EMS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. A LOT OF THESE PURCHASES WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE FIRE PROGRAM FUNDS, OR THE 2% APPARATUS FUNDS, OR 2-PENNY APPARATUS FUNDS. ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, WE REMOVED THIS. I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT EQUIPMENT THIS YEAR OR WORK TOWARDS PURCHASING IT THIS YEAR. ECC INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, THEY DO HAVE A GRANT APPLICATION COMING, SO WE THINK THAT THOSE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE COVERED. AND THEN FIRE AND MS RESCUE EQUIPMENT, AGAIN, CONSIDERED USE OF THE ONE PENNY MONEY. AND THEN WE'VE GOT CONTRIBUTIONS FOR CRATER AREA AGING, AGENCY ON AGING. WE DON'T CURRENTLY FUND THAT. THEY HAD A REQUEST FOR 9,000. COLONIAL HEIGHTS FOOD PANTRY. WE DON'T CURRENTLY FUND THAT EITHER. CRATER HOSPICE IS NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED, BUT WE DID GET A REQUEST FROM THEM. AND THEN 4-H HAD A REQUEST AS WELL, BUT WE DO NOT CURRENTLY FUND THAT. AND THEN THE VIRGINIA LEGAL AID SOCIETY REQUESTED $5,000. WE HAVE NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED THEM. AND THEN RICHMOND SCAN, ANOTHER REQUEST, ALSO NOT CURRENTLY FUNDED, BUT FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION. THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING. BETSY HAS OPTIONS, CONSIDERATIONS, OR DISCUSSIONS PENDING BOARD QUESTION. ANY QUESTIONS? NOT REALLY A QUESTION, A COMMENT. I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR COMING IN ON THE WEEKENDS AND WORKING ON THIS STUFF. IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. I'M GONNA DEFINITELY GO HOME AFTER THIS MEETING AND PLAY WITH SPREADSHEET AND TRY TO DO SOME DIGESTION ON IT. 
          AND SEE WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SAVE MONEY AND THEN ALSO FUND NEEDED NEEDED THINGS WE THE COUNTY NEEDS. THAT'S ALL I GOT AT THIS TIME. I'VE GOT A SIMILAR THING. MS. PUDLOW, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN CYCLING THROUGH MEETINGS WITH STAFF, INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEETINGS, SOMETIMES TWO BY TWO. 
          SOMETHING I THINK YOU ENLIGHTENED US, AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR. HOW YOU'VE GONE THROUGH AND KIND OF WORKED ON THE BUDGET AND SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY REFLECTED IN THIS SPREADSHEET. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY YOU COULD SHARE FOR PUBLIC. WELL, IS THIS WHERE WE? SO? PART OF WHAT WE DID ON A SATURDAY WAS WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET, SIR? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? OKAY, YEAH. SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST LOOK AT THE INCREASES. WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT WE LEFT AT LEVEL FUNDING AND REALLY LOOK AT THOSE AS WELL. WE LOOKED AT TWO-YEAR TRENDS. 
          AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE PEOPLE FOR BEING JUDICIOUS WITH THEIR FUNDING. SO IF THERE WERE MULTIPLE YEARS WHERE THAT FUNDING LOOKED LIKE IT WASN'T BEING USED, WE, WE'RE AGAIN RIGHT-SIZING THE BUDGET. WE DON'T WANT UNINTENDED SAVINGS ACCOUNTS. 
          SO, AGAIN, CHARLAY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTS TO VERIFY THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT NEEDED. SO AGAIN, EVERY LINE ITEM, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT MS. DRURY PULLED UP THEIR EXPENSES AND WE LOOKED AT THE COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT ON ITEMS. AGAIN, JUST REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, ARE WE BUDGETING EVERY LINE ITEM THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. SCRUTINIZED JUST AS IF THERE WAS AN INCREASE, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, RIGHT-SIZING THE BUDGET. WE WANT TO BUDGET APPROPRIATELY. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO REDUCE THE BUDGET SO FAR THAT WE'RE OVER BUDGET NEXT YEAR AGAIN. 
          SO JUST TAKING PRECAUTIONS AND LOOKING AT PAST SPENDING TRENDS. SO THAT WAS MS. DRURY AND CHARLIE DID A LOT OF WORK THERE, AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR MAKING THIS A MUCH EASIER BUDGET YEAR. AND, AGAIN, JUST FEELING GOOD ABOUT WHAT WE ARE PREPARING AND PROPOSING FOR THE BOARD. THAT THERE ISN'T ANY WASTE OR FUNDS THAT WE'VE MISSED. THAT NEED TO GO TOWARDS CRITICAL THINGS. 
          SO, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR ELABORATING. THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN. OTHER QUESTIONS, 
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COMMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION ON IF A COLA INCREASE IS APPLIED, DO REGRADES AND RECLASSIFICATIONS STACK ON TOP OF THE COLA? YES, SIR. THE ENTIRE SCALE IS ADJUSTED WITH A COLA INCREASE. SO THOSE RECLASSIFICATIONS WOULD. 
          BENEFIT FROM A COLA INCREASE. 
          OKAY, THANKS. I SAW QUITE A FEW LINES IN THE BUDGET REGARDING SAFETY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE POSITION CONTROL CHART THAT IS JUST FOR SAFETY? SIR, WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A RISK SAFETY PERSON. I'M SORRY, I'M USING MILITARY TERMS. YEAH, A RISK MANAGER. WE CALLED IT SOMETHING ELSE. WE DON'T HAVE A RISK MANAGER, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE A CONSULTANT. THAT'S LOCAL HERE TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY. AND IF WE HAVE SAFETY ISSUES OR NEEDS THAT ARISE THAT SURPASS OUR TRAINING, WE GIVE THEM A CALL AND MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING GOOD ADVICE ON ANY KIND OF SERIOUS SAFETY INCIDENTS. 
          OKAY, WHEN I GO BACK THROUGH THIS, I'M GOING TO ADD UP ALL THE LINES THAT HAVE SAFETY IN THEM. AND THEN MAYBE WE HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON CAN WE REDUCE TRAINING COST IF WE HAVE OUR OWN INTERNAL RESOURCE. YES, AND CAN I HIGHLIGHT SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS HERE FROM COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND CONTRIBUTIONS FROM A PARTNER COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT PARTNER COUNTY, BUT AGAIN, WE TRY TO BE JUDICIOUS, EVEN IN THOSE SAFETY. SO WE'VE GOT OUR EMPLOYEES JUMPING IN ON TRAINING FOR OTHER LOCALITIES THAT HAVE STAFF ON HAND, SAFETY STAFF. SO WE'RE GETTING A FREE OSHA 10 AND OSHA 30 AND FORKLIFT TRAINING AGAIN FROM OTHER LOCALITIES THAT HAVE ON HAND STAFF. AND SO I JUST APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE GOT GOOD REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS, BUT DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO GET FREE TRAINING WHEREVER WE CAN. CAN WE GET AN UPDATED COPY OF THE POSITION CONTROL CHART? YES. AND CAN WE HAVE INFORMATION ON THERE WITH ANY POSITIONS THAT ARE UNFILLED AND HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN UNFILLED? YOU CAN DEFINITELY ASK H.R. 
          SIR. THANKS. AND WE'VE GOT A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR EQUIPMENT FUNDS FOR FIREMEN. IF WE PROVIDE A NEW VOLUNTEER WITH TURNOUT GEAR, ET CETERA, AND WE PROVIDE A NEW VOLUNTEER WITH A RACKSPACE EMAIL ACCOUNT. 
          COULD THE RACKSPACE LICENSE COME OUT OF THE EQUIPMENT FUND, OR IS THAT CONSIDERED TECHNOLOGY AND NOT EQUIPMENT? WE WOULD WANT TO READ THE ORDINANCE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING WITH THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT WE CAN CHECK. THANKS. AND THEN, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN. 
          THAT'S AN ONGOING COST. THAT IS NOT A ONE-TIME THING. OKAY. 
          FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT CLIFF AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT ANY SOFTWARE CONTRACTS WHERE WE'RE SEEING INCREASES, HAVE WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE VENDORS FOR MULTI-YEAR? AND THAT'S NOT A TONIGHT ANSWER. THAT'S JUST IN GENERAL. YOU'VE SHOWN ME A LOT THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS ON THINGS YOU'RE ALREADY DOING, SO I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. MR. WHIFF? I ECHO WHAT PHILLIP SAID EARLIER. Y'ALL PUT A LOT OF EFFORT AND WORK INTO IT. I APPRECIATE IT. AND YOU DID PRETTY DAMN GOOD, COMING OUT OF THE GATE FOR THE FIRST TIME, TRYING TO PRESENT IT ON YOUR OWN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. REIF. ONE QUESTION, GOING BACK ON THE SAFETY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OSHA 10 AND 30 TRAINING. IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, PUT PEOPLE IN THE SEATS. DO NOT DO IT ONLINE. I AM AN INSTRUCTOR FOR BOTH 10 AND 30 FOR GENERAL INDUSTRY AND CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, AND ONLINE JUST DOES NOT CUT IT. 
          WE'LL BE ON THAT ONE. THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. RECEIVED. WE'LL PRIORITIZE IN PERSON. WE'VE GOT GOOD... 
          WE'LL VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME, MS. COX. THERE'S A COUPLE CLASSES ON FOR US? YEAH, A COUPLE CLASSES. THAT'S NOT A COUPLE CLASSES, BUDDY. NOT TO... BUT AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL. 
          AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID. I KNOW Y'ALL TOOK YOUR SATURDAY TO COME IN AND DO STUFF, AND I KNOW BETSY BURNS A MIDNIGHT OIL DURING BUDGET SEASON. 
          BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT, IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION. I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION IN YOUR CHOICES. YES, SIR, IT ASSUMES LEVEL FUNDING FOR THE SCHOOLS. YES, IT DOES. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT. 
          THE BOARD HOLD A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 2.2-3711A1 FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE APPOINTMENT, ASSIGNMENTS, AND PERFORMANCE OF A SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE OF THE PUBLIC BODY I FURTHER MOVE THAT SUCH DISCUSSION SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SECOND? SECOND. 
          I HAVE A SECOND. DO I HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. WEBB, SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 
          MR. WEBB? YES. MR. FORD-PUGH? 
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YES. MR. HAMILL? YES. MR. PHILLIP-PUGH? YES. MR. COX? YES. WE'LL BE IN CLOSED SESSION. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION. I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION CERTIFYING THE CLOSED SESSION. MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION AND CERTIFY, PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 2.2-3712D, THAT ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS AND IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION, WE'VE GOT A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL. MR. FORD PUGH? YES. MR. HAMILL? YES. MR. PHILLIP PUGH? YES. MR. COX? YES. MR. WEBB? YES. ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. 
          SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. WE'VE GOT A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MR. HAMILL? YES. MR. PHILLIP PUGH? YES. MR. COX? YES. MR. WEBB? YES. MR. FORD PUGH? YES. ADJOURNED.
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