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06:00. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE JANUARY 20TH 26 PRE BUDGET WORK SESSION TO ORDER.
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
ROLL CALL MS. KNOTT. MR. COX MR. PHILIP PUGH. HERE. MR. HAMMEL. HERE. MR. FORD PUGH.HERE. MR. WEBB. HERE. OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE INVOCATION BY MR. HAMMEL AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY MR. WEBB.
WE THANK YOU FOR LIFTING UP OUR COMMUNITY, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND OUR SERVICE MEMBERS.
MAY THEY BE KEPT SAFE, SURROUNDED BY YOUR ALL KNOWING GUIDANCE.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU GRANT OUR BOARD FOCUS AND CLARITY THIS EVENING.
WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION OF EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
MAY WE PROCEED WITH WISDOM, COMPASSION, AND A UNIFIED PURPOSE.
IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME I WILL ASK FOR AN ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT. YOU ALL HEARD THE ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.
YOU MADE A MOTION. SECOND. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
SECOND BY MR. WEBB. ROLL CALL. MR. PHILIP PUGH.
YES. MR. HAMMEL. YES. MR. FORD PUGH. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. COX. YES. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR WORK SESSION NOW.
[B. WORK SESSION]
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE AND THE ONES THAT MAY BE WATCHING, THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT TWIST ON THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.WE GOT THE VIDEOS THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO WATCH, BUT WE WANT TO GET INTO A ROOM WHERE WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION WITH ONE ANOTHER AND A PRESENTER. SO WE'RE GOING TO KICK OFF WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MR. CHARLES HARRISON, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE COMPLIANCE DREWRY, I'M GONNA LET YOU RUN IT FROM. OKAY. GOOD EVENING.
GOOD EVENING SIR. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN COX, VICE CHAIR PUGH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MS. PUDLOW. MS. PASTOR. AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF NEW TO ME, TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HELP ME GET THROUGH THIS.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT TONIGHT, I CAME PREPARED MAINLY TO FOCUS ON MY POSITION REQUEST IN PARTICULAR, I MENTIONED SOME THINGS IN MY ORIGINAL BUDGET REQUEST, BUT DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES OR REQUESTS FOR ANY LARGE PURCHASES IN NON STAFF RELATED MATTERS. SO FIRSTLY, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP AND BEGIN MY PRESENTATION AND FOCUS ON THE POSITION REQUEST, WHICH IS ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM SUPPORT SPECIALIST.
BEFORE I BEGIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MY PRESENTATION, YOU CAN STOP ME AT ANY TIME.
AGAIN, THIS YEAR WE'RE FOCUSING ON TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT AS FAR AS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS SPECIALISTS, AS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO SUPPORT.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A MS. ANGELA BLOUNT AS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR.
AND THIS IS SOME OF THE DUTIES THAT SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES OVERSEEING THE LOCAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEQ REGULATIONS.
AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING TO HELP AND ADD BECAUSE THIS IS A ACTUALLY A POSITION THAT NEEDS MORE SUPPORT.
CURRENTLY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE SINGLE PERSON CONDUCTING THIS AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE INSPECTIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF ONE SINGLE PARTY.
AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT CURRENTLY, WE'RE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THIS PROGRAM WITH THE HELP OF OUR INSPECTORS, WHICH ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SUPPORT SO WE CAN PRODUCE RESULTS FOR THE PUBLIC.
HERE'S THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE WERE. WHAT I AM REQUESTING.
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I HAVE REQUESTED ALLOCATION OF FUNDS IN OUR PART TIME SALARY TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF MAYBE A MONTHLY RESPONSIBILITY.
SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S PRODUCED.
WE HAVE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE PROCESSED AND HANDLED AND REVIEWED.
THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITIES AGAIN OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR, THIS IS ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE AGENCIES AS FAR AS PUBLIC AND INTERAGENCY COORDINATION.
IT SERVES AS OUR LIAISON WITH DEVELOPERS, CONTRACTORS AND PUBLIC.
THE ANNUAL REPORTS, AS WELL AS CHESAPEAKE BAY DOCUMENTS, THE DEQ AND OTHER AGENCIES.
I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ALSO THAT WE'RE A NON MS4 COMMUNITY, MEANING THAT ANYTHING ABOVE AN ACRE, WE HAVE TO STILL REPORT AND REFER AND DEFER TO DEQ AS OUR PROGRAM ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY.
I'D JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE ASPECTS AGAIN OF NON MS4 COMMUNITIES.
GOING BACK DOWN TO THE SECOND HERE, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, WE STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS CURRENTLY UPHELD AND ENFORCED BY MS. BLOUNT SOLELY. AND WE NEED HELP IN THIS AREA GREATLY.
THIS IS ALL I HAVE AS FAR AS THAT. AND AGAIN, YOU GUYS CAN HELP ME ALONG WITH WITH YOUR QUESTIONS MAY HAVE BEEN I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN MY PRESENTATION, MY OVERALL BUDGET PRESENTATION OR NOT, BUT I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO INTO DETAIL AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. QUESTIONS? I'M GOOD. I'VE SEEN THIS VIDEO.
I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK. SURE ARE WE USING ANY OVERTIME HOURS CURRENTLY OR KIND OF MISSING DEADLINES ON ANY OF THE WORK THAT'S REQUIRED CURRENTLY? OR HOW COULD THE NEW ROLE KIND OF SUPPORT THE ONGOING? WE ARE WORKING TIRELESSLY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT INCURRING ANY KIND OF PENALTIES RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S BECOMING ALMOST AT AN UNSUSTAINABLE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE MS. BLOUNT, SHE'S EITHER IN OFFICE DOING THOSE TASKS THAT I DESCRIBED OR BECAUSE WE ARE SHORT STAFFED.
HER FIELD DAY WILL REQUIRE HER TO BE IN THE FIELD ALMOST ALL DAY.
SO IT'S A BALANCE OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT IN OFFICE AS WELL AS BEING OUT IN THE FIELD.
SO NO, WE'RE NOT IN ANY KIND OF OVERTIME POSITION, BUT IT'S GREATLY NEEDED TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT SOLE ROLE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. THANK YOU.
OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? I GOT A QUESTION MR. CHAIR.
IF YOU COULD GO BACK, I THINK IT'S 1 OR 2 SLIDES IN YOUR BOARD PRESENTATION HERE.
ALL RIGHT. THE MS4 COMMUNITIES. YES. MY QUESTION IS WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT ONE.
AND YOU SAID WE WORK UNDER DED CURRENTLY? RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MS4 PROGRAM IN PLACE ANYTHING.
IF GREATER THAN AN ACRE OF DISTURBANCE, WE HAVE TO DEFER TO DEQ FOR ENFORCEMENT.
ALL RIGHT. ARE WE CHARGING FOR DISTURBANCE LAND CURRENTLY? LIKE, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO CLEAR A LOT, WE ARE BILLING.
ABSOLUTELY. YES. OKAY. WE ARE PERMITTING. YES, SIR.
DOES THOSE FUNDS GO TO YOU OR DO THEY GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND? DO YOU KNOW? I BELIEVE THEY WOULD GO TO GENERAL FUND. WE DON'T. OKAY. IS THERE I GUESS THIS WOULD BE A BETSY QUESTION.
IS THERE A WAY TO SEE HOW MUCH REVENUE WE HAVE COMING OFF OF THAT? AND THE EXPENDITURES TO POSSIBLY OFFSET AN EMPLOYEE IF, IF THAT'S IF THIS IF THIS IS GOING TO BE THEIR PRIMARY JOB TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE IN COMPLIANCE. IT WOULD BE PRIMARY AS FAR AS SERVING AS A ROLE UNDER OUR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST THAT, BUT ABSOLUTELY THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN COMPLIANCE EFFORT.
OKAY. AND, MR. PUGH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU.
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OKAY. WE HAVE HAD UNUSUALLY HIGH COLLECTIONS YEAR TO DATE THIS YEAR.YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT THAT I'M GOING TO PROVIDE TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
YES MA'AM. IT'S ALREADY UPLOADED IN BOARD DOCS.
IT IS NOT 100%. OKAY. YEAH. I'M LOOKING HERE.
BUT THAT IS ON THE. IS THAT JUST ONE TYPE? YEAH, THAT'S JUST LAND DISTURBANCE.
OKAY. IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT SO. ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S ALL I GOT AT THIS TIME. YES. OTHER QUESTIONS? MAY I ASK ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION? YES SIR. I THINK IN THE IN THE SLIDES THAT WERE GIVEN TO US ORIGINALLY THERE WAS THE INITIAL PART WHERE THEY HAD THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM SPECIALIST. BUT IN THE WORKSHEET IT SAID THAT THERE WAS ALSO AN OPTION FOR THE PART TIME ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF SUPPORT.
WERE THOSE INTERCHANGEABLE OR WERE THOSE? THAT IS THAT IS MY FAIL SAFE.
WE REQUESTED THIS POSITION FOR A COUPLE BUDGETS AT THIS POINT.
WE JUST HAVE TO TRY TRY SOMETHING TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF SUPPORT.
AND IN THAT PART TIME POSITION WE'RE LOOKING AT MINIMUM 20, 20 PLUS HOURS A WEEK.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? GOING ONCE. GOING TWICE.
THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHARLES. THANK YOU.
OKAY. NEXT WILL BE THE DISCUSSION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 2027 BUDGET REQUEST.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. BOARD MEMBERS. MS. PUDLOW.
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LINE ITEMS. HE'S AVAILABLE WITH HIS THREE RING BINDER. WHAT I INTEND ON DOING IS JUST GOING THROUGH THE SLIDE.
I THINK YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVE IT, MAYBE REVIEWED IT AND GLOSS OVER SOME OF THIS.
SOME OF IT WILL LITERALLY GLOSS OVER. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON THERE, BUT WE'LL TRY TO FOCUS ON WHERE WE THINK Y'ALL WANT TO FOCUS THAT BEING THE BUDGET. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GET GOING. BEFORE I DO, I DO WANT TO PUT A DISCLAIMER OUT THERE.
WE DO OUR BEST TO PROVIDE ACCURATE DATA, BUT FOR WE GET HAWKED A LOT.
AND SOME OF THIS DATA MAY NOT BE SPOT ON, BUT IT'S ON FOR PURPOSES OF THE BUDGET.
THAT'S OUR MISSION, VISION AND VALUES. WE'LL KIND OF GLOSS OVER THIS, BUT I WILL JUST SAY PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICING ARE THE GOVERNMENT'S MOST FUNDAMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. IF WE FAIL WITH THESE RESPONSIBILITIES, NOTHING ELSE IN SOCIETY FUNCTIONS.
WITH THAT. EACH OF YOU REGARDING THE IMPORTANT DECISIONS YOU MAKE.
WE DO HAVE OUR UTMOST RESPECT AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOU.
THIS IS OUR CURRENT STATE OF THE DEPARTMENT. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, IT'S GOT OUR STAFFING AND OUR CURRENT ALLOCATED BUDGETING, OUR PRIORITIES. THESE ARE WORTH TALKING ABOUT FOR PURPOSES OF THE OF THE BUDGET COMMUNITY FIRST.
A LOT GOES INTO NUMBER ONE THERE. OUR MOTTO IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE TRY TO LIVE BY THAT. CRIME. WE WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF CRIME.
WE WANT TO LIVE IN A PROACTIVE, ACTIVE WORLD PURSUING CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR AND THEN HIGHWAY SAFETY.
EVERYONE IN OUR DEPARTMENT KNOWS THESE ARE OUR THREE FOCUS AREAS, AND ALL OF OUR ENERGY AND MONEY SHOULD FALL INTO ONE OR ALL OF THOSE THREE PRIORITIES. OUR STRENGTHS WE HAVE A LOT OF STRENGTHS.
SO WE'RE NOT ALL DOOM AND GLOOM. WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER, AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE.
NUMBER ONE IS CLEARLY OUR COMMUNITY AND CITIZENRY SUPPORT SUPPORTIVE LEADERSHIP.
OUR CITIZENS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE. INTERNALLY, WE HAVE SUPPORTIVE LEADERSHIP THAT HOLDS HOLDS FOLKS TO ACCOUNT, BUT VERY SUPPORTIVE. WE HAVE A CLARITY OF MISSION TO THREE PRIORITIES. WE KEEP IT SIMPLE.
SIMPLE DOESN'T MEAN EASY. TEAM ITSELF, EQUIPMENT, TRAINING AND OPPORTUNITY AND GROWTH.
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A LOT TO OFFER IN PRINCE GEORGE. AND WE ALL DO BELIEVE PRINCE GEORGE IS A GREAT PLACE FOR A CAREER IN POLICING.TO THE MEAT OF IT, THESE ARE OUR REQUESTS. WE KNOW IT'S A LOT OF REQUESTS AND A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING SEVEN POLICE OFFICERS, NEW POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS, ONE RECORDS CLERK POSITION RECLASSIFY LIEUTENANT TO A CAPTAIN. THAT'S NOT A NEW POSITION, BUT A RECLASSIFICATION AND COMPETITIVE PAY.
THE RECLASSIFICATION. AT LEAST THE LAST YEAR.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL THE COMMUNITY GET? ALL THESE REQUESTS WILL RESULT IN CONTINUED QUALITY SERVICE DELIVERY TO OUR CITIZENS, CITIZENS, CITIZENRY, SAFETY, AND A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE AND SAFE ROADWAYS.
SO STAFFING CHALLENGES. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE SNIPPET OF OF WHY WE BELIEVE WE NEED MORE RESOURCES.
SO IN 2025, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE WERE 24,862.
THAT'S ABOUT A 17% INCREASE OVER THE PRECEDING FOUR YEAR AVERAGE.
AND ALL THESE METRICS HAVE HAD TO PICK ONE TO LOOK AT AS IT RELATED TO STAFFING.
SO YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER GRAPH HERE IN A MINUTE WITH CALLS FOR SERVICE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE HAVE-TOS. THAT'S WHEN IT CALLS US AND NEEDS US.
AND THE VIOLENT CRIME IN 2024 WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR 2025 DATA IS AVAILABLE YET.
BUT I WILL SAY PREVENTION IN THAT AREA IS WHERE IT'S AT.
THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE VIOLENT CRIME.
AND WHEN WE START GETTING WE DON'T WANT TO BE WORKING FROM OUR HEELS.
WE WANT TO BE WORKING FOR OUR TOES. AS IT RELATES TO CRIME.
OVER 150 REQUESTS FOR NEEDED SHIFT COVERAGE IN 2025.
THIS IS AN AVERAGE OF 13 REQUESTS EACH MONTH FOR MINIMUM PATROL COVERAGE.
THAT'S WE HAVE STUFF GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ALL OUR RESOURCES ARE TIED UP TO SUPERVISOR CALLS FOR ADDITIONAL HELP.
THAT'S ALSO WE HAVE MINIMUM STAFFING SCHEDULED TO WORK AND SOMEONE CALLS IN SICK.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS FOR THAT, BUT IT'S A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR SHIFT COVERAGE BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE USUALLY AT MINIMUM STAFFING. AND INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES JUST WITH INCREASED CALLS FOR SERVICES.
TAKES TAKES US A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HANDLING MORE THAN ONE MAJOR INCIDENT AT A TIME.
BUT WITH MINIMUM STAFFING OF SIX, ONE MAJOR CRASH CAN TAKE UP OUR WHOLE SHIFT.
SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS. WE HAVE TO TRIAGE, WHICH WE DO EVERY DAY.
YOU KNOW, OUR TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY NEEDS CRIME HIGHWAY SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE ALL THINK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME. BUT WE SPEND A LOT OF ENERGY IN OTHER AREAS THAT WE MAY NOT.
WE MAY GLOSS OVER RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL. WE HAVE A JAIL IN OUR JURISDICTION.
IT'S A LOT OF WE INVESTIGATE A LOT OF CRIMES AT RIVERSIDE.
WE HAVE A FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL FACILITY. NOT A LOT OF PARTNERSHIP THERE, BUT SOME.
FORT LEE, A LOT OF SUPPORT WE PROVIDE. SOCIAL SERVICES, A LOT OF REQUESTS.
RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY, A FAIR AMOUNT OF REQUESTS.
CRATER CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY TRAINING, A LOT OF REQUESTS.
AND THERE'S MANY OTHERS THAT SOMETIMES WE DON'T THINK ABOUT.
AND THEN WE ALSO NEED TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT WHAT CRIME TRENDS LOOK IN OUR SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS.
TWO OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE STATE CRIME RATE AS IT RELATES TO GUN HOMICIDES.
SOMETHING TO BE MINDFUL OF. AND ALSO WE HAVE A CASINO COMING THAT WILL IMPACT US.
THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT. BACK TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.
YOU'LL SEE THE SUMMONSES, TOTAL ARREST, DUI ARREST AND DRUG ARREST.
THEY'RE UP. BUT I'LL SAY THIS. THE SUMMONSES AND A LOT OF THE ARRESTS, ARREST, ESPECIALLY YOUR DUI ARREST, DRUG ARRESTS, A LOT OF WEAPONS ARRESTS, A LOT OF THAT'S PROACTIVE ARREST.
ABOUT 30 ABOUT A THIRD OF AN OFFICER'S TIME NEEDS TO BE NOT DEDICATED TO REACTING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE, NEEDS TO BE. IT CAN BE MANAGED, IT CAN BE DIRECTED, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE PROACTIVE IN NATURE.
AND AS CALLS FOR SERVICE GO UP, YOU COULD SEE A DECLINE IN IN ARRESTS OR AT LEAST A PLATEAU.
WITHOUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, THEY'LL REACH A POINT WHERE THE SUMMONS TOTALS THE SAME EVERY YEAR, REGARDLESS OF HOW THE COUNTY GROWS. THE ARRESTS COULD BE SIMILAR, ESPECIALLY DUI ARREST, DRUG ARREST, WEAPONS ARREST. SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, BUT WITHOUT ADDITIONAL STAFFING, THEY'LL EVENTUALLY PLATEAU.
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AND I'LL ALSO SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WILL SAY THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, LIES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS CRIME RATE. IT'S IT'S INTERESTING CAN BE A LITTLE COMPLICATED.DUI ARREST. DRUG ARRESTS. WEAPONS ARREST. THE PROACTIVE TYPE WORK.
IT'S PREVENTING VIOLENT CRIME, HOMICIDES, ROBBERIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIME RATES. OKAY. WHAT ARE YOU MEASURING? YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO SEE. I'LL BE HONEST. I LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS UP. THAT MEANS, IN MY VIEW, THE ROBBERIES AND SOME OF THE MORE VIOLENT STUFF SHOULD BE GOING DOWN.
SO HIGHWAY SAFETY. THIS IS ONE OF OUR THREE PRIORITIES, AND IT'S DEFINITELY A PRIORITY FOR OUR, OUR CITIZENS. SO WE INVESTIGATE OVER A THOUSAND CRASHES ANNUALLY, MULTIPLE FATAL CRASHES ANNUALLY.
THAT NUMBER VARIES FROM YEAR TO YEAR, BUT IT'S ALWAYS MULTIPLE.
RIGHT, AT TEN, 11,000 TRAFFIC STOPS PER YEAR, 9000 SUMMONSES.
AND AGAIN, MY PHONE RINGS MORE OVER TRAFFIC RELATED COMPLAINTS THAN ANYTHING ELSE FROM OUR CITIZENS.
AND A LOT OF THE TERRIBLE TRAGEDY THAT OUR OFFICERS SEE ARE RELATED TO CRASHES AND, YOU KNOW, TORN UP FAMILIES. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY A PRIORITY FOR US.
AND WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO A LOT MORE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE WAY OF HIGHWAY SAFETY.
AND MR. PUGH, YOU. MR. PHILIP PUGH, YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING IN THE LAST PRESENTATION.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. I DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS FOR YOU, BUT ADDITIONAL STAFFING IN THIS ARENA, HIGHWAY SAFETY WILL DEFINITELY EQUAL MORE SUMMONSES AND THERE IS A REVENUE ATTACHED TO THAT.
BUT THE REVENUE COMING IN FROM SUMMONSES OFFSETS THE COST OF THE OFFICER CAR AND EVERYTHING ELSE WHEN THE RESOURCES ARE DEDICATED TO HIGHWAY SAFETY. BUT I'M RELUCTANT TO EVEN SAY THAT BECAUSE PRINCE GEORGE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING MONEY.
WE DON'T TRACK THAT. WE DON'T WRITE TICKETS FOR REVENUE GENERATION.
WE WRITE TICKETS FOR EDUCATION AND HIGHWAY SAFETY.
IT'S ROAD ENGINEERING. IT'S EDUCATION, AND IT'S ENFORCEMENT EQUALS SAFE ROADWAYS.
THAT'S OUR FOCUS, NOT MONEY MAKING. THIS IS BACK TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.
YOU CAN JUST SEE THAT'S A 10 OR 11 YEARS THERE.
AND THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER 48% INCREASE FROM 2014 TO 2024.
AND AGAIN, IF I HAD TO PICK ONE INDICATOR TO LOOK AT FOR STAFFING, THAT WOULD BE IT.
THIS IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. JUST THEIR WORKLOAD JUST WON'T GO OVER ALL THIS.
AND THEN DIGITAL EVIDENCE PROCESSING, ALL THE TECHNOLOGY USED TO INVESTIGATE CRIME.
A LOT MORE TIME AND EFFORT ARE GOING IN THOSE THREE AREAS AS WELL AS OTHERS.
THIS IS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT STAFFING PER CAPITA.
I'LL START BY SAYING WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE USE THE STATE AND NATIONAL AVERAGE TO STAFF PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE SOME FRAMEWORK THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.
THAT'S SOME AREA DEPARTMENTS THAT. THIS MAY BE A YEAR DATED.
IT MAY HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. IT WAS PROBABLY SIMILAR IN THE RANKING THERE.
BUT THAT'S AT 63 OFFICERS. THE STATE AVERAGE IS 2.93.
AGAIN, MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TODAY. AND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
THE STATE AVERAGE AND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE WOULD PUT US AT OVER 100 SWORN POLICE OFFICERS.
AND AGAIN OUR OUR ALLOTTED STAFFING IS 66. AND I'LL ALSO SAY THIS COMES UP SOMETIMES, BUT TYPICALLY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND A POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING A POLICE DEPARTMENT TO A SHERIFF'S OFFICE, IN A WAY, IT'S APPLES TO ORANGES. POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE FULL SERVICE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. MANY SHERIFF'S OFFICES ARE NOT.
AND THAT'S TYPICALLY IN HIGHWAY SAFETY LIKE DINWIDDIE OR OTHER, OTHER COUNTIES.
I THINK IT'S ONLY MAYBE 8. 6 OR 8 COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
WE'RE WORKING ALL THE CRASHES IN THE COUNTY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF I-95 AND 295.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH, AGAIN, IS 1000 CRASHES.
BENEFITS FOR INCREASED STAFFING. WE'LL GO OVER THIS IN JUST A MINUTE.
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BUT THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A FIFTH PATROL ZONE.SO WE HAVE WE WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS. WE HAVE FOUR SHIFTS TWO DAYS, TWO NIGHTS.
AND WE HAVE FOUR PATROL ZONES. THE SERGEANT LIEUTENANT, WITH ADDITIONAL STAFFING WE CAN CREATE.
AND WE DID THE METRICS ON THIS YEARS AGO, AND WE'VE REFRESHED IT SINCE THEN.
BUT WE WANT TO WE THINK WE COULD BEST SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WITH ANOTHER PATROL ZONE, PUTTING ANOTHER OFFICER INTO THAT DESIGNATED PART OF THE COUNTY WHICH WOULD BE HELPED WITH RESPONSE AND JUST HAVING MORE CAPACITY OUT THERE.
AND THAT WOULD MEAN INCREASING OUR STAFFING FROM SEVEN OFFICERS PER SHIFT FROM 6 TO 7, AND THAT WILL DECREASE OVERTIME, LESSEN ORGANIZATIONAL STRAIN, AND JUST, OF COURSE, MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT SERVICE DELIVERY.
I WAS GOING OVER THIS SLIDE BEFORE I WALKED IN.
I FORGOT ONE REALLY IMPORTANT RECTANGLE THERE.
AND THAT'S OFFICER SAFETY. THAT'S THE OTHER BENEFIT FOR INCREASED STAFFING.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A BENEFIT FOR INCREASED STAFFING AS WELL.
AND THIS THIS IS JUST THE MAP ON THE LEFT OUR FOUR PATROL ZONES.
THE MAP ON THE RIGHT WOULD BE OUR FIVE. AND IT REDUCES JUST COMMON SENSE.
IT REDUCES THE AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT EACH OFFICER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO COVER.
BUT IF YOU AVERAGE IT OUT, THE COUNTY. CURRENTLY ONE PATROL ZONE IS LARGER GEOGRAPHY THAN COLONIAL HEIGHTS, PETERSBURG, HOPEWELL, AND FORT LEE COMBINED. SO THAT'S A LOT OF GEOGRAPHY FOR ONE POLICE OFFICER.
SO WE ARE RESPONDING ALL OVER THE COUNTY A LOT MORE THAN WE WERE IN THE PAST.
SO CURRENT UNIFORM PATROL STAFFING ALLOWS FOR A CAPACITY FOR TWO ACTIVE MULTI OFFICER INCIDENTS.
ONE SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT AND ALL OUR STAFFING IS GONE TO THAT INCIDENT.
AND THE SUPERVISORS ARE HAVING TO TRIAGE MORE OF A HEART AND LUNG TRIAGE THAN A, YOU KNOW, A HEART AND LUNG AND AN ARM OR SOMETHING. SO WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONE THING IS GOING ON AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR IT.
AND YOU KNOW, THE GUYS DO A GREAT JOB WITH, WITH PUTTING, PUTTING THE SOME OF THE STUFF ON THE BACK BURNER WHILE THEY ATTENDED THE MORE URGENT NEEDS. BUT THAT IS A CONCERN. EXAMPLES THAT CAN BE CRASHES, DOMESTIC ASSAULTS, DISTURBANCES, WEAPON VIOLATIONS AND ADDITIONAL STAFFING WILL LESSEN MUTUAL AID REQUESTS AND JUST RESOURCE REQUESTS IN GENERAL.
AND THE ADDITION OF SEVEN OFFICERS PER SHIFT WILL.
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD ANOTHER PATROL ZONE, REDUCE RESPONSE TIMES MORE CAPACITY TO HANDLE MULTI OFFICER RESPONSES, REDUCE RELIANCE ON CALLOUTS AND PROVIDE THE RESOURCES FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE PRINCE GEORGE COMMUNITY AND KEEP OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE GOOD.
AND HERE'S A GOOD CHANCE FOR ME TO TRY TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MINIMUM STAFFING OF SEVEN.
IN ORDER TO HAVE SEVEN OFFICERS ON A SHIFT, THAT SHIFT HAS TO BE STAFFED WITH 10 OR 11 OFFICERS.
THE 75% RULE A RELIEF FACTOR OF 1.4. YOU KNOW ONE.
THIS ACCOUNTS FOR THE TIME AN OFFICER'S PAID BUT NOT AVAILABLE FOR PATROL, REGULAR DAYS, OFF VACATION, SICK LEAVE, TRAINING, COURT, ALL THOSE THINGS FACTOR IN.
SO IF YOU HAVE TEN AND THIS IS THERE'S SCIENCE TO BACK THIS UP.
IF YOU HAVE 10 OR 11 OFFICERS ON A SHIFT, YOU CAN STAFF IT AT SEVEN.
IF YOU HAVE SEVEN OFFICERS ON A SHIFT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE SHOWING UP FOR WORK EVERY DAY.
YOU CAN DO THAT AT A MACRO LEVEL WITH THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT TOO.
YOU REALLY NEED ANOTHER 30% IF YOU IF YOU REALLY NEED 66.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK SOME FOLKS HAVE A HARD TIME WRAPPING THEIR HEAD AROUND. BUT YOU BEING A 24/7 365 OPERATION AND ON THE 12 HOUR SHIFTS, 10 OR 11 EQUAL 7 AVAILABLE TO WORK. THAT'S JUST THE MATH.
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AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING VACANCIES. NOW WE MOVE INTO THE RECORDS CLERK.WE HAVE A PART TIME POSITION FOR THIS NOW. A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS HAVE RECORDS DIVISIONS.
WHEN I CAME HERE WE OUR RECORDS RESPONSIBILITIES FALL ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
WE HAVE 4 OR 5 PEOPLE WEARING RECORDS CLERK HATS.
AND WE DEAL WITH THOUSANDS OF RECORDS PER YEAR.
AND OUR PART TIMERS, SHE'S STILL CATCHING UP FROM THE PAST TRYING TO GET THINGS SCANNED IN.
AND AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE A LIBRARY OF VIRGINIA GUIDELINES FOR RECORDS.
WE HAVE MANDATES ON SOME OF OUR REPORTING. WE HAVE POLICE REPORTS, ARREST DATA, CRIMINAL AND TRAFFIC SUMMONSES, A LOT OF FOIA REQUESTS, TRAINING RECORDS, BACKGROUND RECORDS, MEDICAL EXAMINER REQUESTS, SOCIAL SERVICES.
THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON WITH RECORDS. SO WE ARE WE ASKED FOR THIS LAST, AT LEAST THE LAST YEAR, BUT WE DO NEED A FULL TIME RECORDS CLERK POSITION IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND TRANSITION THAT FROM OUR CURRENT PART TIME EMPLOYEE.
AND THE BENEFITS THERE ARE STRUCTURE AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
IMPROVED ACCURACY JUST LESSEN THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRAIN.
THE EAST SUMMONS IS GETTING THEM TRANSITIONED TO THE SUPREME COURT AND OUR COURTS TAKING ALL THE POLICE REPORTS, MAKING SURE THE DATA IS CORRECT AND ENTERED IT INTO RMS. SO IF WE'VE GOT SOME OF THESE DUTIES OFF OF, SAY, OUR CRIME ANALYST, THEY COULD DO MORE CRIME ANALYSIS WORK AND NOT RECORDS WORK.
AND SAME IS TRUE WITH OUR ACCREDITATION MANAGER AND OTHERS.
AND HERE'S THE RECLASSIFICATION OF LIEUTENANT TO CAPTAIN.
THIS ADMINISTRATION IS PROBABLY LIKE A LOT OF Y'ALL ARE.
IT'S NOT THE COMMAND STAFF, IT'S THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK.
WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM. SO BUT WITH THAT, THESE THESE COMMAND POSITIONS ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO MANAGE THE DEPARTMENT, TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT PLANNING AND OVERSIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE RECLASS OF LIEUTENANT TO CAPTAIN BE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE.
BUT WE DO BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE ALMOST 100 EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE.
I'LL SAY. OVER TEN YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIME FRAME.
THIS DEPARTMENT HAD THREE CAPTAINS. IT HAD THREE DIVISIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. I THINK IT WAS MY FIRST YEAR HERE.
WE HAD A THIRD CAPTAIN ON THE POSITION CONTROL CHART AND BUT IT WASN'T FUNDED.
SO THAT POSITION WAS REPLACED WITH A POLICE OFFICER.
SO WE WENT WE WENT FROM THREE COMMANDERS BACK DOWN TO TWO OVER TEN YEARS AGO.
AS FAR AS FUNDING GOES, OFFICIALLY IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.
AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS AROUND US COLONIAL HEIGHTS, HOPEWELL, PETERSBURG AND OTHERS HAVE MUCH MORE COMMAND CAPACITY THAN WE DO AND SOME OF THEM SMALLER AGENCIES. AND THAT SORT OF. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK JUST LIKE THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF A MOVING OBJECT. BUT THAT'S WHERE THE THIRD DIVISION WOULD LOOK LIKE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COMMUNITY SERVICES NOW, BUT THIS THIS LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT.
A COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION. YOU SEE, WHAT COULD FALL UNDER THAT.
AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S ALSO THOSE THREE DIVISIONS.
AND WE YEAH, I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS NOW. OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE INTERNALLY IS HIRING AND RETENTION.
FINDING QUALITY PEOPLE TO WORK IN PRINCE GEORGE'S POLICE OFFICER.
AND IT'S NOT JUST US. IT'S ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
THIS SHOWS YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE THE MINIMUM.
AND THANK YOU CORRIE HURT. SHE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THIS.
WE DO APPRECIATE HER AS WELL AS CHARLOTTE FOR THE WORK SHE'S DONE FOR US.
BUT YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE ARE AT. IF I CAN FIND IT.
$58,432 IS OUR CURRENT ENTRY POINT. AND I THINK THE AVERAGE IS $60,102.
WE'RE REQUESTING A 5% ADJUSTMENT. WE HAVE A GOOD PAY PLAN.
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OTHERS DO AS WELL, SOME NOT AS GOOD AS OURS. BUT WE KNOW A 5% PAY INCREASE IS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PLAN.AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR MONEY IS AT. IT'S NOT IN THE FRONT END, IT'S THROUGH THE WHOLE ADJUSTMENT. BUT IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE'RE BACK TO HAVING COMPRESSION ISSUES AND SERIOUS PROBLEMS WE HAD YEARS AGO.
SO 3% WOULD PUT US IN THE MIX RIGHT NOW. BUT A 5% THIS IS LOOKING BACKWARDS.
THIS THIS ALL WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST OF LAST YEAR.
SO A LOT OF THESE AGENCIES WILL BE MOVING FORWARD AGAIN JULY 1ST OF 2026.
SO TO STAY COMPETITIVE AND THAT'S ALL WE'VE EVER WANTED TO DO WITH PAY.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO LEAD IN PAY. WE LEAD IN A LOT OF OTHER WAYS.
AND THAT'S THE END OF THE POWERPOINT. I HAVE AGAIN, CAPTAIN TABER HERE.
QUESTIONS? MR. HAMMEL. GOT A FEW OF THEM. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, SIR.
I'M CURIOUS. OF COURSE, MY MIND GOES TO THE DATA, WHICH IS WHERE I TYPICALLY FOCUS.
HIGHWAY SAFETY 2025 WAS THE SLIDE? IN 2023 IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S LIKE A 55% INCREASE FROM 22 TO 23.
IT GOES FROM LIKE 14,000 ISH TO ABOUT 22,000.
AND I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS IF. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CHANGED OR LIKE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAT WE EMPLOYED THAT KIND OF MADE THAT INCREASE? THOSE SEEM PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL IN 23 AT LEAST.
I CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT. I. THIS IS WHERE Y'ALL GET UP [LAUGHTER]. I DO BELIEVE IT'S OUR PRIORITIES COME UP TO THE MIC. AND DOWN THROUGH THE YEAH I THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME FRAME THAT WE CHANGED OUR THREE PRIORITIES WITH OUR CRIME AND HIGHWAY SAFETY.
SO THAT WAS A PUSH FROM THE COMMAND STAFF AT THAT POINT TO GET OUT THERE AND, AND DO MORE HIGHWAY SAFETY BASED OFF OF THE FATALITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING. WE'RE SEEING LIKE 11 FATALITIES AT ONE YEAR.
MULTIPLE SO I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S BASED OFF OF THAT. AWESOME.
THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. SOMETHING I WAS DRAWN TO 2023 WAS A BIG JUMP.
I HAVE A QUESTION. AND THIS MIGHT GO TO FINANCE AS WELL.
DOES ANY OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DO WE HAVE ANY JURISDICTION WITHIN FORT LEE? DO WE DO ANYTHING ON BASE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? TEMPORARY DETENTION ORDERS, CIVIL PROCESS, AND WHENEVER A WANTED PERSON COMES NO IS THE ANSWER AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT GOES.
YES, SIR AND THEN WE DEAL WITH THEM AS MANY STATE WARRANTS.
ANY ARRESTS ON A STATE WARRANT IN FORT LEE TURNS INTO OUR RESPONSIBILITY, ALONG WITH TEMPORARY DETENTION ORDERS, AND THERE ARE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL BUT BUT AS FAR AS LAW ENFORCEMENT, ENFORCE LAW ON BASE NO.
NO, SIR. THANK YOU OR IS IT MORE KIND OF LIKE A WHERE WE DO WE MIGHT GO HELP DINWIDDIE WITH SOMETHING.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET PAID FOR THOSE SORT OF THINGS EITHER. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY FEDERAL FUNDING FROM FORT LEE OTHER THAN THAT THAT EXISTS WITH THE IGSA FOR 911. NO, WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY FUNDING FROM FORT LEE.
I KNOW ECC DOES BECAUSE WE SPLIT PERSONNEL FOR THAT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR POLICE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND THERE'S A SLIDE ON, I BELIEVE IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT STAFFING.
LUCKILY, I THINK WHEN YOU TAKE THE 9500, IT'S ALMOST 10,000 FOLKS THAT LIVE ON BASE AT FORT LEE.
IT ACTUALLY MOVES US TO ABOUT NUMBER SIX IN THAT LIST, WHICH MADE ME FEEL BETTER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT LIST, THAT WAS DEFINITELY CONCERNING. AND SO NOT THAT THAT TAKES AWAY THE OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC AND THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT DEFINITELY HAPPENED WITHIN THE COUNTY. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU
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SHARING THAT DATA THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT HOW TO STAFF THE SEVEN OFFICERS PER SHIFT. THE SLIDE ABOUT HAVING THE ADDITIONAL ZONE, THE FIFTH ZONE ADDED THAT WOULD REQUIRE ALL SEVEN OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.IS. IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING? YES. IT COULD BE DONE WITH SIX.
YES, SIR TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ALREADY, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS JUST THINKING ABOUT COST, I THINK THIS WAS ACTUALLY FURTHER IN THE SLIDES.
IT WAS AROUND MORE OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING.
ONE OF THE ISSUES YOU MENTIONED, IT SAID THE INCREASED SPAN OF CONTROL AND ADDITIONAL OPERATIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN ON, IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THE ISSUES THE DEPARTMENT HAD FACED. DO YOU HAVE LIKE, IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT SEEMS TO BE EXPANDING IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT REALLY HAS AFFECTED THE DEPARTMENT? THAT MIGHT HELP THE BOARD UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP THAT SORT OF THING? HONESTLY, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN AN EXAMPLE OF THE FROG IN THE WATER WITH THE HEAT GOING UP. IT'S JUST OVER TIME. AND SO I DON'T HAVE A, A MOMENT ANSWER FOR YOU.
BUT JUST OVER TIME AND AGAIN YOU KNOW, THREE DIVISIONS IN THE DEPARTMENT.
OUR SIZE IS VERY REASONABLE. AND WE HAD IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT WE HAD THREE DIVISIONS 12 OR 15 YEARS AGO. BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE WHERE WE DO NOT WANT TO LIVE.
AND THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST WITH CRIME IS REACTIVE.
WE WANT THE CAPACITY FOR PLANNING TO BE OUT IN FRONT OF THINGS IN A COMMAND LEVEL.
THAT'S A THIRD DIVISION WOULD HELP US TO THAT END.
IT'S A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THESE DIVISIONS. THESE GUYS ARE REALLY BUSY.
THANK YOU SIR. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. MR. PHILIP PUGH.
ALL RIGHT. HOW DOES THIS PLAY WITH? HOW MANY? AND THIS MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION TO CURRENTLY, HOW MANY GRANT OFFICERS DO WE HAVE OUT OF THAT? BECAUSE IT'S 12 IS YOUR MAX? CORRECT? AND THEN YOUR SIX ON YOUR MINIMUM STAFFING CURRENTLY.
AND YOU WANT TO GET TO SEVEN, RIGHT? YES. OKAY.
OUT OF THE 12 OFFICERS THAT ARE ALLOTTED PER SHIFT, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE GRANT POSITIONS? WELL, NOT NONE IN UNIFORM PATROL. SO OUR GRANT POSITIONS WE HAVE WE WERE SUCCESSFUL WITH SRO GRANT.
CORRECT. RECENTLY. THAT'S THREE. RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE MIKE.
WE HAVE ONE MORE SRO UNDER GRANT, WHICH IS FOUR, AND WE HAVE A CEASEFIRE GRANT, WHICH IS FIVE.
OKAY. AND THAT ONE FALLS OFF. WAIT, WAIT. TODAY WE HAVE SIX GRANT FUNDED POLICE OFFICERS.
FIVE OF THOSE GRANT FUNDED ARE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
IT WOULD BE ALL LOCAL. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS OUT OF THE I THINK YOU'RE ASKING SEVEN, RIGHT? CORRECT. ARE YOU TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OR WILL YOU BE COMING BACK TO US TO GO HEY, WE'VE GOT WE'RE LOSING A RESOURCE OFFICER. WE'RE LOSING A CEASEFIRE GRANT.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YES. AND THAT THAT'S A BORE.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND OUR TAKE ON IT, AND WE KNOW WE WOULD MUCH PREFER TO TAKE, TAKE BITES OUT OF THE APPLE AND NOT ASK FOR THE WHOLE APPLE. BECAUSE THE SEVEN NEW OFFICERS ARE IN ADDITION TO OUR CURRENT STAFFING.
WE ALSO HAVE GRANT POSITIONS THAT ARE FALLING OFF.
MAYBE THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WILL BE COMING WHERE WE CAN EXTEND THEM, BUT I WOULDN'T COUNT ON IT. BUT YOUR QUESTION IS WELL TAKEN, BUT NO. NO, SIR. THE SEVEN OFFICER REQUEST IS, IN ADDITION TO OUR CURRENT POSITIONS, INCLUDING THE GRANT, THE GRANTED POSITIONS. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ALL I GOT RIGHT NOW.
I MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN A MINUTE. WITH YOU IS THERE ANY. IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE FOR PATROL CARS OR PERIPHERALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT GOES ALONG WITH EACH OFFICER? YES, SIR. WE HAVE. I KNOW CHARLOTTE HELPED ME WITH THOSE NUMBERS AND I HAVE THEM SOMEWHERE.
I'M LOOKING AT THE SPREADSHEET NOW. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT YEAH. WE HAVE THE CALCULATIONS FOR SALARY, BENEFITS, EQUIPMENT AND THE CAR.
OKAY SO IT'S THE VEHICLE PLUS EQUIPMENT PER OFFICER IS RIGHT AT $80,000.
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$79,086. YOU TIMES THAT BY SEVEN. THAT'S $553,604 FOR JUST THE VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT FOR THOSE SEVEN OFFICERS, PLUS THE SALARY AND BENEFITS. OKAY. THANK YOU.YES, SIR. I DON'T THINK THESE NEXT QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE TONIGHT QUESTIONS.
BUT IF YOU AND CAPTAIN TABER CAN WORK ON THESE OVERTIME AND JUST GET THEM BACK WHENEVER.
CAN YOU GIVE US A PROPOSED REDUCTION IN OVERTIME PER NEW OFFICER? WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT. OKAY. AND JUST I'M DEFINITELY NOT UP HERE SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REALIZE A COST SAVINGS, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME MITIGATION THERE. OKAY AND ALONG WITH THAT REDUCTION IN RESPONSE TIMES, IF YOU GO TO THE ADDITIONAL PATROL ZONE.
WE'LL SEE WE CAN GET YOU. OKAY. AND THEN SOMETHING THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT WHEN MR. HAMMEL AND I CAME IN FOR ONBOARDING WAS ARE THERE ANY, LIKE, OFFICER LISTS SPEED CONTROL OR TRAFFIC MONITORING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE.
I KNOW THAT STATE POLICE TYPICALLY MONITORS 95 AND 295, BUT ON THE FOR 460 CORRIDOR, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO? ANY GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR SPEED CAMERAS? ANYTHING IN LIEU OF AN OFFICER? WELL, THE CODE RIGHT NOW GIVES THE POLICE CHIEF THE AUTHORITY FOR CONSTRUCTION ZONES AND SCHOOL ZONES.
OKAY, THAT'S YOUR THREE AREAS OF IN THE REALM OF WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS CONSTRUCTION ZONES, SCHOOL ZONES AND TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC LIGHT CAMERA ENFORCEMENT.
OKAY MR. WEBB. I GOT ONE. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I'M LOOKING AT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, AND IT MIGHT BE IN HERE. ARE WE TRACKING WHAT RIVERSIDE IS COSTING US FOR THE CRIMINALS THAT WE'RE LOCKING UP FOR OUR DAY RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? ARE WE. ARE WE TRACKING THAT IN THIS BUDGET, OR IS THAT A SEPARATE LINE ITEM? OH, FOR THE FOR THE INMATE? YEAH FOR THE INMATES.
ALL RIGHT. SHOWS THAT OUR CENSUS IS UP. YEAH.
AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING SPENDING MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED.
CORRECT. FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 22. RIGHT. I'M JUST CURIOUS BY ADDING, AND I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO SOUND CRAZY BECAUSE I KNOW WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE, BUT BY ADDING SEVEN MORE POLICE OFFICERS, WE'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY DRIVE THAT COST UP BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE STOPPING CRIME BEFORE IT HAPPENS AND ARRESTING PEOPLE WITH WARRANTS, WHICH IS GOING TO DRIVE THAT UP AS WELL.
IT'S A IT'S THERE'S DEFINITELY A DOMINO EFFECT WITH EVERYTHING WE DO.
AND WE'RE KIND OF THE FEEDER FOR EVERYTHING ELSE FOR RIVERSIDE, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FOR THE COURTS, FOR THE JUDGES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT, MR. COX. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL PIGGYBACK ON THAT. I LOOK AT IT THE OTHER WAY.
THE MORE POLICE OFFICERS WE GOT, THE MORE VISIBILITY WE GOT, THE LESS CRIMES WILL BE OCCURRING [LAUGHTER]. HOPEFULLY. CHIEF, EARLY, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU TWO THINGS. IS THIS TRULY SEVEN POSITIONS, OR DOES THIS INCLUDE THE THREE YOU DID NOT GET LAST YEAR? AND YOUR SEVEN YOU'RE ASKING? THE SEVEN WOULD.
IF WE IF WE RECEIVED SEVEN ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, WE WOULD BE IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN. REMEMBER, MR. COX.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE DID.
WE. THE GRANT WE JUST RECEIVED IS FANTASTIC NEWS.
SO THAT'S A PLUS THREE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, SPEAKING OF GRANTS, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THIS COUNTY FULLY FUNDED A POLICE OFFICER? NO GRANT INVOLVED? AND IF YOU PREFER NOT TO ANSWER, THAT'S FINE.
I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. IT'S 1 OR 2. IT'S NOT.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. DO EITHER ONE OF Y'ALL REMEMBER IT'S ALL BLURRED. IT'S. IT'S 1 OR 2. THE CAPTAIN POSITION I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT MY FIRST YEAR HERE.
WE TRADED, QUOTE UNQUOTE, A UNFUNDED CAPTAIN POSITION FOR A NEW POLICE OFFICER.
SO THE POSITION CONTROL CHART STAYED THE SAME WITH SWORN OFFICERS.
AND AFTER THAT, BETSY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN RECALL, BUT MAYBE ONE, MAYBE TWO.
EVERYTHING MOST. IRA, WE'VE BEEN CREATIVE. THE CEASEFIRE GRANTS AND THE SRO GRANTS HAVE IS WHERE MOST OF OUR STAFFING CAPACITY HAS INCREASED. THAT'S WHY IT'S INCREASING. INCREASED AS A YEAR? FOR THE LAST THAT IT VERY WELL COULD BE.
I'M TERRIBLE AT GOING BACK TOO FAR. MR. WEBB.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD SINCE 2016. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW WE LOST THE.
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THE OTHER COMMANDER, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DO NOT REMEMBER US EVER HAVING A BUDGET THAT WE DID NOT RELY ON CEASEFIRE GRANTS, SRO GRANTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO HELP OFFSET KNOWING THAT AT THE END OF THAT GRANT, WE HAD TO PLAN ON COUNTING ON THAT PERSON.UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DOESN'T COMPENSATE FOR THE INCREASE ON THE OTHER END.
SO I WOULD ACTUALLY WHAT I'M DOING IS I'M KIND OF TOOTING THE CHIEF EARLY'S HORN BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN VERY DILIGENT IN GOING OUT, CHASING GRANTS AND AND GETTING THEM FOR THE COUNTY, WHICH IS A SAVINGS TO THE TAXPAYERS.
YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO? IF I COULD JUST. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CAPTAIN'S ANSWER ON THE CRASH QUESTION.
I THINK HE'S SPOT ON, BUT JUST JUST JUST TO BUILD ON THAT.
ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES. WE HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED A HIGHWAY SAFETY UNIT.
SO HE'S I THINK HE'S SPOT ON ON THE ANSWER. AND JUST REAL QUICK ON THE ON THE FORT LEE WE'VE YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION WE'VE HEARD FORT LEE AND AND RIVERSIDE IN PARTICULAR BEING COUNTY POPULATION.
SO SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING POPULATION IT REALLY NOT ADDING BUSINESS FOR US I DON'T THINK IS ACCURATE.
RIGHT. NOTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR.
THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. STICK AROUND.
WATCH THE REST. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO PARKS AND RECREATION.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN COX, BOARD MEMBERS. MS. PUDLOW AND MS. PASTOR. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I AM ASSUMING EVERYBODY HAS SEEN MY SLIDE PRESENTATION.
SO REALLY WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS KIND OF HIT ON SOME OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BIGGER TICKET ITEMS. SO AS AS STATED IN THE VIDEO, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY EMPLOYS SEVEN FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.
DIRECTOR, SPORTS AND TOURISM MANAGER, ASSISTANT ATHLETIC COORDINATOR, SPECIAL ACTIVITIES COORDINATOR, OFFICE ASSOCIATE THREE, GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AND TOURISM SUPERVISOR AND SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKER.
ALL RIGHT. WE'VE REQUESTED FUNDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO PART TIME POSITIONS, A SENIOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE WORKER AND A PART TIME REGULAR SPECIAL ACTIVITIES WORKER. THE PART TIME MAINTENANCE WORKER IS NEEDED TO ADEQUATELY CUT MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT SITES AND FACILITIES THE MAINTENANCE STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING.
OH. ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THE CLICKER.
THERE WE GO. [LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SCOTT, TEMPLE, MOORE, APPOMATTOX RIVER REGIONAL PARKS AND RESTROOMS. IN ADDITION, THEY MAINTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
THE PARKS AND RECREATION OFFICE FIELDS BEHIND THE WELLNESS CENTER.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE DISPUTANTA COMMUNITY CENTER.
MAINTENANCE WORKERS ALSO MAINTAIN THE 15 GAME FIELDS, CONCESSIONS, AND BLEACHERS, AND THERE ARE SCHEDULED TO BE 29 TOURNAMENTS THIS UPCOMING YEAR. SINCE 2018, I'VE REQUESTED THIS AS A FULL TIME ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE POSITION.
SO WE REALLY KIND OF ANALYZED IT AND CAME UP WITH CAME UP WITH THE FACT THAT WE COULD DO IT WITH A NINE MONTH EMPLOYEE. YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD WORK AROUND 29 HOURS A WEEK.
IF ANYBODY'S SEEN OUR PARKS, THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY PRISTINE.
THE SINCE 2020, OUT OF NECESSITY, WE HAVE SCHEDULED OUR ASSISTANT ATHLETIC COORDINATOR TO SPLIT HIS TIME BETWEEN HIS LISTED POSITION AND PERFORMING MAINTENANCE TASKS. THIS, IN TURN, TOOK AWAY FROM OUR ATHLETIC AND PROGRAMING NEEDS AND FROM HIS DESIGNATED WORK
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ASSIGNMENT, WHICH INCLUDES SUPERVISION, TRAINING AND ORIENTATION OF PART TIME SPORTS SUPERVISORS AND SCOREKEEPERS ASSISTING WITH PLANNING AND ORGANIZING. ORGANIZING ATHLETIC EVENTS AND LEAGUES AND RULES.IN ADDITION, OUR ATHLETIC COORDINATOR HAS ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THE REQUESTED POSITION, THIS WORKER WOULD WORK IN THE FIELD.
APPROXIMATELY 29 HOURS A WEEK FOR NINE MONTHS.
IF PROVIDING FUNDING WITH THIS POSITION, WE'D BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR ATHLETIC STAFF CONCENTRATING ON OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, WHICH SERVE MORE THAN 2800 YOUTHS THIS LAST YEAR.
REALLY, IF WE ARE NOT GIVEN THIS FUNDING, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A HARD CHOICE.
YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO. ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LET OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS SLIP A LITTLE BIT, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO HAVE FIELDS AND PARKS THAT ARE NOT AS PRISTINE? WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR. WE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR A PART TIME SPECIAL ACTIVITIES WORKER.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE FULL TIME ACTIVITIES WORKER.
THAT POSITION WAS INITIALLY A PART TIME POSITION.
BECAME A FULL TIME POSITION IN 2007. THE REQUESTED PART TIME SPECIAL ACTIVITIES POSITION IS FOR 25 HOURS A WEEK AND WOULD ASSIST IN DEVELOPING AND MAINTAINING PROGRAMING AND EVENTS.
IN 2026 UNDER THIS DIVISION, OUR DEPARTMENT HAD CLOSE TO 3500 PARTICIPANTS FROM A COMBINATION OF FREE AND PAID ADULT AND OLDER ADULT CLASSES. OUR DEPARTMENT HOSTED SEVEN COUNTY COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT DREW APPROXIMATELY 4800 PARTICIPANTS. WE REGISTERED 150 YOUTH IN OUR SUMMER DAY CAMP PROGRAM, AND OUR FULL TIME SPECIAL ACTIVITIES COORDINATOR IS A CERTIFIED TRAINER. SHE TEACHES SEVEN FREE EXERCISE CLASSES A WEEK, AVERAGES 20 PARTICIPANTS PER CLASS.
THE PARTICIPANTS. THE POSITION ALSO SUPERVISES THE PART TIME EVENING GYM SUPERVISORS.
THE REQUESTED POSITION WOULD PRIMARILY BE USED TO EXPAND OUR OLDER ADULT PROGRAMING, WHICH CURRENTLY INCLUDES EXERCISE CLASSES, LOCAL TRIPS, CLUBS, ETC. THE US CENSUS ESTIMATES THAT 15% OF THE COUNTY'S POPULATION IS OVER 65 YEARS OF AGE. INCREASING PROGRAMING FOR THE PRINCE GEORGE OLDER ADULT POPULATION IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF OUR NEWLY COMPLETED DEPARTMENTAL STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN. DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE SPECIAL ACTIVITIES ASSISTANT POSITION WITH NO ASSISTANT, NEITHER FULL OR PART TIME. WE DO NOT HAVE A SUCCESSION PLAN AND WOULD LOSE AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.
IF OUR FULL TIME EMPLOYEE WHO IS WHO IS DEFINITELY A RETIREMENT AGE LEFT.
MOVING ON TO. I'M SORRY, I GOTTA ALL RIGHT. THE INCREASE IN THE REPAIRS MAINTENANCE BUDGET IS THE RENOVATION OF THE TEMPLE PARK BASKETBALL COURTS.
THE CRACKS IN THE COURTS, AS YOU CAN SEE ARE NOT IN NOT IN GREAT CONDITION.
TWO TIMES SINCE 2008, WE HAVE FILLED IN THE CRACKS AND WE'VE HAD THEM CLEANED OUT, FILLED AND YOU KNOW, IT COMES BACK EACH TIME IS AROUND $8,000.
SO WE'VE DONE IT. THE PROPOSAL REMOVES THE EXISTING ASPHALT, THEN RECOVERS STRIPS THE COURTS.
THE RENOVATION IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE A SAFE, PLAYABLE FACILITY.
ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT IS REPLACEMENT OF TWO EXISTING MOWERS.
AND FOR ANYBODY THAT SPENDS A LOT OF TIME MOWING, YOU KNOW, WE GO, YOU GO THROUGH THEM.
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THE NEXT REQUEST IN THAT LINE IS A KUBOTA RTV TO REPLACE OUR EXISTING CUB RTV AT THE MORE ATHLETIC COMPLEX.THE 2019 CUB THAT WE HAVE HAS OVER 825 WORK HOURS.
IT OVERHEATS. IT LEAKS EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF OIL, LOSES POWER AND STARTING ISSUES.
THIS IS A NECESSITY FOR FIELD MAINTENANCE. IT'S USED FOR DAILY FIELD MAINTENANCE, FOR DRAGGING, DRAGGING THE FIELDS FOR TRASH, PICKUP EQUIPMENT, TRANSPORTATION, ETC.
NEXT. FINALLY, WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT OF ONE OF OUR TREADMILLS AT OUR COMMUNITY CENTER.
70% OF THAT WAS DONE BY THE JOHN RANDOLPH FOUNDATION.
THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS WAS I WAS QUOTED AS RIGHT AROUND $2,000 TO REPAIR IT.
IT'S A 2012 PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, SO IT'S TIME FOR IT TO BE REPLACED.
THE EXERCISE ROOMS ITSELF WE HAVE A MINIMAL, MINIMAL MONTHLY FEE.
IT'S $5 A MONTH FOR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY RESIDENTS, OR $50 A YEAR.
IN 2025, WE RECEIVED $31,162 IN MEMBERSHIP FEES AND $26,762 OF THAT WAS FROM OUR MAIN BUILDING, AND $4,400 WAS FROM THE WELLNESS CENTER FACILITY.
AND THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TRIED TO STAY UNDER YOUR TEN MINUTE.
AND I WILL START OPPOSITE SIDE THIS TIME, MR. PUGH. FORD PUGH.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE PART TIME SENIOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE WORKER WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, A SKILLED POSITION, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK WITH SOMEONE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL TO DO, LIKE A WORK RELEASE PROGRAM, SOMEONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN SPORTS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO KEEP THE FIELDS UP AND NEEDS SOMETHING TO DO AFTERNOON? YEAH. I MEAN, I SUPPOSE IT COULD. WE LOOK INTO IT? I MEAN, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO GET IT CONSISTENT. I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS BASICALLY NINE MONTHS. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT DECEMBER, JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.
PRETTY MUCH ONCE IT STARTS, THE GRASS STARTS GROWING.
IT'S ON. GOTTA STAY ON IT. AND THEN THIS THIS SPRING, IN ADDITION TO IT, WE HAVE SCHEDULED A.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING TWO ADDITIONAL PRACTICE SOCCER FIELDS BACK.
BACK AT SCOTT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL GRASS.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY DEDICATED OUT THERE.
OKAY. THE PARKS ARE LESS SO BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER GRASS GROWS.
SO YES. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A REALLY A SKILL POSITION.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY LIKE MOW SOMEBODY THAT CAN WEEDY SOMEBODY CAN PICK UP TRASH YOU KNOW, LINE FIELDS YOU KNOW, THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY WHAT IT'D BE.
OKAY. IS THE TREADMILL REPLACEMENT AN EXACT REPLACEMENT FOR WHAT'S THERE? THEY DON'T MAKE A MODEL LIKE THAT ANYMORE. OKAY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPGRADE.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL GRADE. SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME IN, WE HAVE A FIRM THAT COMES IN AND THEY DO REGULAR MAINTENANCE ON THESE THINGS. WHEN THIS WAS REEVALUATED, WE ACTUALLY HAD FOUR OF THEM ADDRESSED. THIS ONE WE DID NOT ADDRESS BECAUSE OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE THREE OF THEM.
THE BELTS REDONE, THE BELTS FLIPPED. YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE SAFE FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THEY'VE GOT A FEW YEARS IN THEM.
REALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST LAST YEAR OR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START SLOWLY REPLACING PIECES SO WE DON'T GET HIT WITH A CRAZY, CRAZY BIG BILL. OKAY. THE KUBOTA SIDE BY SIDE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COMPARED 2 OR 3 VENDORS AND MODELS AND THAT'S THE YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT? YEAH, YEAH, ACTUALLY WE GOT A KUBOTA TRACTOR, THE LAST TRACTOR WE GOT, AND IT WORKED REALLY WELL.
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THEY'VE GOT A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE REALLY WELL WITH SERVICE.IT'S YOU KNOW, IT SPENDS A LOT OF TIME IN THE DUST.
AND SO IT GETS IT GETS A LOT OF USE. OKAY, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
OKAY STATE'S GOT A LOT OF INITIATIVES OUT THERE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, KEEPING SENIOR CITIZENS ACTIVE AND ACTIVE AND HEALTHY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE? FOR THE EQUIPMENT, EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, STUFF FOR THE WELLNESS CENTER? I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK INTO IT. IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT.
I DON'T KNOW I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. BUT AS IN MAINTENANCE AND REPLACING THINGS, I REALLY NOT.
WELL, I'M JUST REFERRING MAINLY TO THE EXERCISE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT TIES BACK TO A LOT OF THE, THE HEALTHY THING NOW WHERE THEY WANT EVERYBODY, THE OLDER YOU GET AND WANT YOU TO STAY ACTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, RETIREES, STUFF LIKE THAT, KEEP ACTIVE.
IF THERE'S ANY HELP OUT THERE FOR THAT, THAT WOULD HELP OFFSET IT.
YEAH, THAT'S ALL I GOT. OKAY YEAH SO. OF COURSE MY COMPUTER LOCKED, SO I MIGHT HAVE TO ASK.
SO IN THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE BUDGET SHEET, IT HAS REVENUES.
I THINK THEY TOTAL PROJECTED $155,000. IS THAT CORRECT FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR? UNLOCK MY COMPUTER AGAIN YEAH, $155,000, I BELIEVE, IS PROJECTED REVENUES.
WITH PARKS AND REC AND I'M. I'M GETTING MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND THIS.
I UNDERSTAND FROM THE PARK'S PERSPECTIVE THERE'S MAINTENANCE. THERE'S COST TO OPERATING PARKS, FOR SURE. BUT ON THE REC SIDE JUST THINKING ABOUT KIND OF REVENUE THAT COMES WITH THAT. HAVE WE TAKEN ANY LOOK AT, LIKE THE COST OF OUR PROGRAMS? TO SEE, LIKE FOR SOCCER OR BASEBALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE IN LINE WITH OTHER LOCALITIES, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S PRIVATE OR PUBLIC? ACTUALLY, THERE IS A CHART THAT WAS INCLUDED IN MY IN MY SHARED BUDGET OR THE BUDGET FILE. ONCE A YEAR WHAT WE DO IS I HAVE THEM.
I HAVE THE ATHLETIC STAFF CHECK LOCALITIES TO SEE WHAT WE COMPARE TO.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE A DIFFERENT BOARD.
YOU CAN DECIDE, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT.
AS YOU CAN PROBABLY AS YOU CAN PROBABLY GUESS MOST OF THE THINGS WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T BREAK EVEN ON, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST KIND OF A SUBSIDY FOR THE FOR THE YOUTH PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW. BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, WE STAY, WE STAY RIGHT IN THE MIX WITH THE OTHER LOCALITIES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE FOCUS OF PREVIOUS BOARDS.
YOU KNOW, YOU ALL CAN, YOU KNOW, DECIDE TO CHANGE THAT.
BUT THAT WAS YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ALWAYS A FOCUS.
I MEAN, IT REALLY HASN'T GONE UP MUCH. IT REALLY HASN'T.
I THINK WHEN I GOT HERE, IT WAS $20 AND IT WENT UP TO $25.
AND NOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, $30 SO. IF I MISSED. I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT INSERT.
I'M NOT SURE I SAW THAT. AS PART OF THIS PACKAGE OKAY. TRIED TO PUT IT ON THIS DRIVE, AND I CAN CERTAINLY EMAIL PART OF THE PART OF THE REASON WHY I ASKED TOO IS I LOOK AT SOME OF THE LIGHT ITEMS AND I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THIS DOWN.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO TRY TO GLANCE. WE'VE GOT ATHLETIC SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT.
WE'VE GOT $140,000 THERE. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT I GLANCED AT.
THERE WAS A COUPLE OF LINE ITEMS THAT SEEMED DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE REC PART OF THE.
AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I ASKED IS NOT THAT IT SHOULD MAKE A PROFIT OR EVEN THAT IT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE EXACTLY ZERO, BUT TO GET IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE INCREASES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.
SO. YOU'RE RIGHT I KNOW WE GET TAX REVENUE OTHER PLACES, BUT SORT OF REVENUES DOES THE DEPARTMENT SEE FOR THAT? IT'S PREDOMINANTLY YOU KNOW, TAX. IT'S WE DO GET, YOU KNOW, FIELD RENTAL, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT SUBSTANTIAL. OKAY. YOU KNOW, FACILITY RENTAL.
IT'S AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY COMPARABLE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE PETERSBURG COMPLEX.
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YOU'VE GOT DINWIDDIE COMPLEX. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AS NICE AS WE GET IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMPARABLE TO SOME OF THE CHESTERFIELD COMPLEXES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.SO YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ALL WANT TO GO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADJUST OUR, OUR REQUESTS. I HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE REALLY OUT OF BOUNDS IF WE WENT UP, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT ON THE RENTALS FOR THE TOURNAMENTS.
I DON'T THINK WE'D BE SCARING THE PEOPLE AWAY.
AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MR. JABRI AS WELL.
SO THE TAX REVENUES WE SEE WOULD BE SALES TAX.
IT MIGHT BE HOTEL TAXES, THINGS LIKE THAT. DO WE HAVE LIMITS ON HOW THOSE SORTS OF TAXES CAN BE PUT BACK? I KNOW WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT A PAVILION THAT MIGHT BE FUNDED BY SOME OF THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
WELL, IT'S IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TIE HAVING THE TOURNAMENT TO AN INCREASE IN OUR HOTEL TAX.
AND NOT ALL OF THE TOURNAMENT PARTICIPANTS STAY IN PRINCE GEORGE HOTELS.
MR. JABRI TYPICALLY PROVIDES SOMETHING FROM A TOURISM COMPANY THAT GIVES A GUIDELINE WHAT WE COULD EXPECT TO SEE FROM CONDUCTING A TOURNAMENT. SPORTS TOURISM, SPORTS TOURISM INITIATIVES.
MY UNDERSTANDING, I'M NOT THE LAWYER. LOOKING AT OUR CODE, WE CAN USE SOME OF OUR TOURISM FUNDS FOR SPORTS TOURISM ACTIVITIES. GENERALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD ASK MR. JABRI IF WE COULD TAKE SOME OF HIS FUND BALANCE FROM THE TOURISM FUND TO CONSTRUCT A PAVILION AT J.E.J.
SO COULD YOU USE THOSE SORTS OF FUNDS TO NOT NECESSARILY BUILD NEW THINGS, BUT TO HELP US MAINTAIN ASPECTS OF THE DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, AS WE BRING THOSE THINGS IN, IT ENCOURAGES SPENDING HERE, WHICH IS GOOD, AND IT CAN HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COST TO.
WE COULD WE ACTUALLY PAY A PORTION OF THREE RECREATION EMPLOYEES SALARY AND BENEFITS FROM THE TOURISM FUND BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING ON SPORTS TOURISM INITIATIVES. SO THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY TO SHARE SOME OF THE COSTS OF RECREATION INITIATIVES THROUGH THE TOURISM FUND. THANK YOU. WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT.
AND ACTUALLY THE TOURISM. TOURISM TAX HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL OVER THE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, WE THE PLAYGROUND OUT AT OUT AT THE MORE COMPLEX.
THAT'S THAT WAS DONE BY THAT YOU KNOW, BATTING CAGES OUT THERE, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT TEMPLE YOU KNOW, SO IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY USEFUL TOOL WHEN, WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO USE IT.
CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. COX? MR. HAMMEL.
IS THAT THE SAME FOR OUR BALL TOURNAMENTS? YES.
OKAY. YES. YEAH JABRI. THAT'S IT. MR. HAMMEL, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. MR. PHILIP PUGH, YOU GOT SEVEN RIGHT NOW.
WORKERS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT CONTRACTING OR, LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS MAINTENANCE? WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, YES, THERE WAS A BIG STUDY THAT WAS DONE WITH THAT, AND IT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DOING THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW. AND THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING IS I'M SITTING HERE RUNNING NUMBERS IN MY HEAD.
THIS IS WHAT THIS SHOULD COST. AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE CONTRACTED OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO USE THE STAFF ACCORDINGLY TO TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER ATHLETIC COMPLEXES THAT WE HAVE? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE HOW MANY, HOW MANY DAYS ARE WE TIED UP RIGHT NOW IN NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS? I WOULD SAY PROBABLY TWO PEOPLE ALL DAY, IF NOT TWO DAYS.
I TELL YOU WHAT, THE WAY THAT WE'VE GOT TWO FULL TIME STAFF.
OKAY. WE USE ONE OF OUR FULL TIME STAFF TO DO ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, AND
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ALSO THEN THEY GO TO THE APPOMATTOX PARK, AND THEN THEY ALSO GO TO THE DISPUTANTA CENTER.THEY GO TO OUR OFFICE, THEY GO TO BURROWSVILLE THAT.
THEY'RE USUALLY. THEY ACTUALLY DO ROUTE TEN TOO.
THE IT'S USUALLY A LITTLE OVER THREE DAYS. IT'S BEEN DOING IT.
AND THAT'S A FULL TIME AND A HELPER? NO, THAT'S FULL TIME.
WHAT'S THE SOCCER FIELD DOWN THERE? IS THAT BERMUDA OR IS THAT JUST. YEAH OKAY. THAT'S THAT. TEMPLE IS ACTUALLY DONE WITH A PART TIME PERSON.
OKAY. WE JUST HE'S STATIONED OUT THERE. THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.
I GOT YOU. AND HE IS ANNUAL RETENTIVE AND DOES A GREAT JOB.
RIGHT. YEAH. I'M JUST THINKING MAYBE LIGHTEN THE LOAD A LITTLE BIT NOW.
AND I COMMEND YOU FOR LOOKING AT NOT A 12 MONTH EMPLOYEE, BUT A NINE MONTH EMPLOYEE.
SO THANK YOU FOR COMING IN HERE WITH OPTIONS.
BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE ENTERTAIN MAYBE POSSIBLY LETTING YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE STUFF TO, TO MAYBE CONTRACT OUT TO GET SOME LOAD OFF OF YOU AND THEN GET SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE EXTENDED OUT VERSUS REPLACING EVERY YEAR. YEAH I'M REALLY NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. REALLY. WHAT MY BIG MY BIG THING IS.
WE HAVEN'T DONE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SPLIT WITH STAFFING LIKE THIS.
CORRECT. WE HAVE NOT PUT THE FINE TUNING ON ATHLETICS, WHICH IT DESERVES.
I MEAN, IT'S IT'S AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER SUMMER OF THAT, I JUST DON'T.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BASICALLY CHOOSING WHICH IS THE WORST THING TO DO.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT LOOKING AT CONTRACTED PARKS I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE. BUT I MAY BE WRONG.
I DON'T KNOW. I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AS IN RESPONSIVENESS.
RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE GET RAIN ONE DAY. YOU KNOW, WE GET.
AND THEN EVEN, LIKE, YOUR OFFICE, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO THAT.
THE CENTRAL WELLNESS CENTER. WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THE GRASS OUT THERE AS WELL.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, TO ME AREN'T PRESSED, BUT YOU GET THEM CUT WEEKLY, BI WEEKLY, THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, 32 CUTS A YEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS HOW YOU WOULD ADDRESS, LIKE THE RESTROOMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I GUESS OUR STAFF WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD EAT UP A CONTRACT.
WELL. YOU KNOW, GOING OUT TO A PARK, DUMPING TRASH CANS IF YOU DID IT QUARTERLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CUT THE GRASS, IT'D BE ONE THING, BUT.
YOU GET ALL THE DEBRIS THAT'S LEFT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.
CORRECT. ONCE A WEEK. AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION TOO, IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE, MAYBE PARTNER WITH SOME OF OUR NONPROFITS, MAYBE TO ADOPT A PARK AND MAINTAIN IT TOO.
HAVE WE EVER THOUGHT OF THAT? NOT REALLY. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY.
MR. ROTZOLL, I ONLY GOT ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
YES, SIR. TEMPLE PARK BASKETBALL COURTS. HAVE THEY EVER BEEN REDONE? I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2007. AND THEY HAVE NOT.
I TRULY ANTICIPATE IT TO BE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE CITIZEN THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE TO YOU ALL LAST MONTH.
SHE I MEAN, SHE HAD A VALID POINT. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT GOOD AT THE MOMENT.
HOWEVER, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DEFINITELY COULD.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING? YES, SIR. JUST ONE FOLLOW UP ON THE COURT.
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HOW WAS THAT COURT OBTAINED? WAS THAT A CO-OP CONTRACT OR? THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMEBODY THAT WE HAD THROUGH CONTRACT ON, ON A CONTRACT, I BELIEVE.BETSY SOMETHING $37,000 WE HAVE TO PUT OUT FOR BID ANYWAY.
IS THAT RIGHT? WHO WAS THE COURT OBTAINED FROM? I'M SORRY FOR. NOT. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE COMPANY OFFHAND HOLD ON JUST ONE MINUTE WE'VE ALREADY GOT SOMEBODY CO-OP CONTRACT. JUST UNDERSTAND. YEAH, IT'S A SHARE.
IT'S A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAIN.
WHICH? FOR WHICH THE BASKETBALL COURT? TEMPLE PARK RENOVATION.
YEAH. IT'S PRO SEAL. WE DO USE A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT FOR PRO SEAL OKAY. SO COOPERATIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE THAT'S IT, SIR. HOW BIG IS THAT COURT? IT'S GOT SIX HOOPS ON IT.
IS IT 50 BY 50? 60 BY 60? I DON'T KNOW DON'T KNOW. OKAY. I'M JUST RUNNING NUMBERS AT $37,000.
YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T KNOW OH, YEAH. YOU GO AND MILL IT UP, YOU'LL HAVE TO REPACK THE LAND, YOU KNOW, BRING IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, LIFT IT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME EROSION GOING ON UNDERNEATH OF IT.
BUT THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT SPEC IS ON A BASKETBALL COURT, BUT I WOULD ASSUME IT'S 4IN.
4IN TO 5IN, I BELIEVE SO. AND THEN IS THAT FACILITATE NEW GOALS GOING UP AS WELL, OR IS THAT JUST THE ASPHALT? YEAH, THAT'S JUST ASPHALT YEAH 37 SEEMS A LOT TO ME REALLY 80 BY 93. AND I CAN SEND.
I'M GOING TO SEND THIS FOR COMPARISON TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND I WILL SEND THAT PRO SEAL QUOTE AS WELL OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. ROTZOLL. CERTAINLY ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO OUR NEXT ONE.
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. YEP. THANKS GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MS. PUDLOW. MS. PASTOR. YEAH. SO HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE IT DEPARTMENT REQUEST.
SO THE IT DEPARTMENT, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TWO BUDGETS.
SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT PIECE OF IT JUST A LITTLE BIT LATER.
THE SECOND BUDGET THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IS THE 405 BUDGET, WHICH IS THE COUNTY WIDE IT BUDGET, WHICH COVERS A LOT OF THE REPLACEMENT COMPUTERS.
AND THE BIG OVERALL IT COSTS FOR THE COUNTY MOSTLY LEVEL FUNDING REQUESTS.
$5000 OF THAT IS REPRESENTED BY AN ANNUAL INCREASE THAT WE SEE EVERY YEAR FROM TYLER TECHNOLOGIES TO SUPPORT OUR MUNIS, OUR ENTERPRISE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE THAT'S USED BY THE ENTIRE COUNTY, NOT A WHOLE LOT WE CAN DO WITH THAT.
IT'S JUST IT'S BUILT INTO THE COST. SO EVERY YEAR WE DO GET THAT 5% INCREASE.
THE LARGER AMOUNT OF THAT INCREASE, THE $30,000, THOUGH, IS TO SUPPORT, AS I MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO OUR VMWARE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE FOR HOSTING OUR SERVERS ON SITE BOTH FOR ALL OF THE COUNTY SERVERS THAT ARE LOCAL HERE.
THE VMWARE SOFTWARE WAS PURCHASED BY BROADCOM AND IS, AS THEY NORMALLY DO WITH ANY ACQUISITION.
WE ARE LOOKING AS I MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT A QUICK TURNAROUND ITEM TO DO.
TO SWAP ALL OF YOUR SERVERS OVER TO NEW HARDWARE.
NEW SOFTWARE. IS A VERY LARGE EFFORT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO FOR THIS YEAR WE'RE JUST ASKING TO CONTINUE THE SUPPORT SERVICES WE HAVE WITH VMWARE, UNTIL WE CAN GET A GOOD NUMBER TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE COST EFFECTIVE TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT PRODUCT AT THAT TIME.
SO I CAN I CAN PAUSE HERE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE OF OUR REQUESTS.
ANY QUESTIONS? YOU WANT TO HOLD THEM TO THE END? KEEP ON.
SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT VERY BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, WE'RE A VERY LEAN OPERATION.
BUT WE MAKE THE MOST OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE WITH OUR EMPLOYEES.
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AND WHAT MRS. DREWRY HAS UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS JUST A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ACCOMPLISHED BY ON PAPER, JUST FOUR PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE. SO WHEREAS. WHERE SOME LARGE ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT HAVE A TIER ONE AND A TIER TWO AND AN ENGINEERING SECTION AND A CYBER SECURITY SPECIALIST AND A NETWORK ENGINEER. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE WHO DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.SO THEY DO A LOT FROM EQUIPMENT PURCHASES TO USER ACCOUNTS TO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF.
AND SO IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME MORE SUPPORT HERE.
ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, BECAUSE AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS, YOU HEAR THE REQUESTS, NOBODY'S COMING TO YOU AND ASKING FOR FEWER PEOPLE OR LESS TECHNOLOGY.
AND IN ORDER TO KEEP UP AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR CITIZENS EFFECTIVELY, WE FEEL THAT WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER PERSON IN THE DEPARTMENT TO HELP MANAGE THAT WORKLOAD.
YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY THINGS NOW RELY ON THE IT DEPARTMENT.
THE EXAMPLE I GAVE IN THE VIDEO. AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO BRING UP BECAUSE I FIND IT A LITTLE FUNNY, BUT EVEN DOWN TO THE TASERS THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS USE TO RECHARGE THE BATTERIES FOR THEIR TASERS, THAT DOCKING STATION NEEDS A NETWORK CONNECTION AND YOU NEED IT PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO AGAIN, OUR TECHNOLOGY NEEDS ARE GOING TO CONSTANTLY GROW.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS IT IS NOW, WE DO AT TIMES STRUGGLE TO KEEP UP.
I MEAN, OUR FOLKS DO A GOOD JOB. I COMMEND THEM ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY DO.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T GET TO ALL OF THOSE EVERY DAY.
AND WE OFTEN HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING EVERY DAY IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES FUNCTIONING, TO SUPPORT THE CITIZENS EFFECTIVELY AND SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY, LITTLE JOBS IT SHOULD BE QUICK TO TAKE CARE OF, GET KICKED DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE BASED ON THE NEEDS AND WE JUST FEEL THAT A NEW POSITION WOULD HELP THAT TREMENDOUSLY TO GET US A BETTER HANDLE ON NOT JUST WHAT WE DO FROM EIGHT TO 8:00 TO 5:00, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BUT ALL THE WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN AFTER HOURS.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE DO SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS 24/7.
SO WE DO OFTEN HAVE TO SCHEDULE FOLKS TIME TO WORK IN THE EVENINGS TO BE ABLE TO REBOOT SERVERS, REBOOT SWITCHES, FIREWALLS, NETWORK EQUIPMENT AND THINGS.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO SUMMARIZE IT'S JUST WE REALLY SEE A NEED IN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND I'LL SPEAK TO IT FROM THE DIRECTOR'S POINT OF VIEW AS WELL.
THANK YOU, MS. DREWRY IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN.
WOULD HELP ME TREMENDOUSLY AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMANDS OF OUR TECHNOLOGY AND ALL THE MANY THINGS THAT MY STAFF HAS TO DO. I HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MY TIME AS THE DIRECTOR ACTUALLY DOING ON HANDS ON WORK AS WELL.
IT WOULDN'T BE ODD FOR ANY OF YOU TO WALK IN ONE DAY AND SEE ME ON A FLOOR UNDER A COMPUTER, OR UP IN THE CEILING TILES, PULLING CABLE WITH MY GUYS, BECAUSE IT'S JUST A NECESSITY OF OUR OFFICE RIGHT NOW RUNNING LEAN THE WAY WE DO, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT. I KNOW I AM. I LOVE THE HANDS ON WORK.
SOMETIMES WHEN I'M NOT DOING IT, WHEN I'M TIED UP IN THE DIRECTOR RESPONSIBILITIES, I.
I GET A LITTLE ITCHY. I MISS IT. I LIKE GETTING MY HANDS DIRTY AND DOING WORK WITH MY FOLKS.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE MODEL LONG TERM.
SO HAVING SOMEONE HERE WHO CAN HELP NOT ONLY TAKE ON SOME OF THE WORKLOAD, BUT TO HELP WITH MANAGING DEPARTMENT ASKED AS A SECOND TO MYSELF AS I MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO.
24/7. SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO WE CAN PUT ON CALL EVERY NOW AND THEN.
NOT ONLY JUST FOR MY SAKE, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COUNTY AND OUR CITIZENS.
WE WANT GOOD RESPONSE TIMES WHEN PROBLEMS ARE IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS.
WE WANT TO GET THEM CORRECTLY AS QUICK, CORRECTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND HAVING THIS POSITION WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS HELPING US TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
OKAY MR. HAMMEL. QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. YOU HAD MENTIONED OVERTIME HOURS.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF ROUGHLY HOW MANY OVERTIME HOURS YOUR DEPARTMENTS RUN INTO ON NORMAL BASIS? JUST DOING NORMAL ROUTINE ACTIVITIES? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION SIR.
I DON'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN SAY WE TYPICALLY MITIGATE THAT.
WE ONLY HAVE A VERY SMALL OVERTIME BUDGET. IT'S ONLY $2,000.
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THEY MIGHT COME IN LATE THE NEXT DAY. SO AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, WE TRY TO BALANCE THEIR TIME VERSUS SPENDING EXTRA MONEY FOR THAT.EXCELLENT. I APPRECIATE FLEX TIME'S AWESOME. YOU KNOW IT'S A WORK LATE COME IN A LITTLE BIT LATE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW YOU'RE PERFORMING, LIKE WITH HELP DESK TICKETS, SLA, STUFF LIKE THAT? ARE YOU GUYS ROUTINELY MISSING SLAS ON YOUR HELP DESK TICKETS, OR ARE YOU SEEING A GENERAL UPTICK IN THOSE, THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT'S TAKEN TO SOLVE SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING, EITHER, I GUESS REALLY ON THE CITIZEN SIDE AND GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE SIDE.
YEAH. GREAT QUESTION. SO WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY STRONG OFFICIAL SLAS.
IT'S ONE OF OUR TARGETS LONG TERM THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOCK DOWN A LITTLE BETTER.
WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING OUR CITIZENS, MOST OF THOSE ARE REQUESTS RELATED TO THE BILL PAY WEBSITE.
SOMEONE MIGHT NEED HELP, YOU KNOW, MAPPING THEIR PARCEL TO THEIR LOGIN OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
SO THOSE CALLS ARE GENERALLY PRETTY QUICK AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO THOSE PRETTY QUICKLY.
AGAIN, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE A SET PLAN WHEN WE WALK IN AT 8 A.M.
BUT SOMEBODY WILL CALL BECAUSE THEY CLICKED ON A PHISHING EMAIL OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMEBODY'S ACCOUNT GOT COMPROMISED AND THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL THOSE OTHER LITTLE THINGS GET PUSHED BACK. AND WE HAVE TO TRIAGE THE CURRENT SITUATION THAT HAS THE BIGGER PRIORITY.
SO I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER ON THE SLAS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INTERNALLY TRYING TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON FOR OUR TICKETING SYSTEM TO BETTER REFLECT THAT SO WE COULD TELL A BETTER STORY FOR THESE QUESTIONS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I CAN SAY, THOUGH, THAT MOST OF THE TIME OUR GUYS ARE ARE PRETTY EFFECTIVE.
YOU KNOW, LITTLE THINGS. BUT WHAT WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S LITTLE TO US, MAY BE BIG TO THE EMPLOYEE. SO IT'S HARD TO BALANCE THAT AT TIMES WITH WITH THE STAFF.
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TO MEET THEIR NEEDS EFFECTIVELY AND KEEP THEM HAPPY SERVICING OUR CITIZENS.
NOT AT THIS TIME, MR. FORD. WHEN YOUR TICKETS, ARE YOU TYPICALLY TRYING TO FIX THINGS SAME DAY? IDEALLY, YEAH. WE WANT TO GET EVERYTHING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AGAIN, JUST WITH THAT PRIORITIZING. AND AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE PRIORITIZE THINGS IS, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, ON A SCALE OF SEVERITY AND IMPACT, RIGHT.
SO SEVERITY WOULD BE HOW WIDESPREAD IS THIS PROBLEM? IS IT AFFECTING ONE PERSON, ONE OFFICE OR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
AND THEN IMPACT WOULD BE WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO OUR CITIZENS OR OUR CUSTOMERS WITH THAT PROBLEM? SO IS IT THAT ONE PERSON CAN'T PRINT, THEY CAN'T CHECK THEIR EMAIL? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT THE WHOLE COUNTY IS DOWN? SO THAT COMBINATION OF SEVERITY AND IMPACT HELPS KIND OF DRIVE WHERE THESE ISSUES FALL INTO THE ORDER OF OUR PRIORITIES EACH DAY.
AND AGAIN, WITH THE VOLUME THAT WE GET OF CALLS, IT'S IT CHANGES A LOT THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
THE POSITION THAT YOU HAVE REQUESTED IS A TECHNICAL SUPPORT MANAGER.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY WITHIN YOUR STAFF THAT YOU FEEL LIKE COULD MOVE INTO THAT ROLE, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A NEW HIRE? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, SIR. I THINK THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL WITHIN THE OFFICE, TO BE HONEST.
YOU KNOW, I INTERACT WITH MY FOLKS A LOT, VERY CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE WOULD FEEL READY OR INTERESTED IN IT AT THIS TIME, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE I COULD SEE 1 OR 2 MAYBE GOING THAT ROUTE, BUT I DO EXPECT MOST LIKELY IT WOULD BE AN OUTSIDE HIRE.
I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY GO THAT ROUTE FOR SURE.
I THINK THE WAY I ENVISION THIS POSITION THOUGH, WITH IS SOMEONE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEFINITELY TAKE A SECONDARY LEADERSHIP ROLE TO MYSELF TO HELP DRIVE OUR SERVICE LEVEL SERVICE RESPONSE TIMES, AS WELL AS OUR CLOSURE TIMES.
AND SOMEONE AGAIN, WHO COULD FILL IN IF, YOU KNOW, IF I'M NOT HERE, SOMEONE ELSE IS NOT HERE.
OKAY. ON THE VMWARE COSTS, YOU'RE GOING DIRECTLY TO VMWARE, OR DO YOU HAVE A LIKE A MIDDLEMAN THAT YOU GET THAT THROUGH THE SERVICES? WE DO, THEY SELL THROUGH THE COMPANY WE PRIMARILY USE RIGHT NOW IS CALLED E-PLUS.
THEY HAVE COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS AND SET FUNDING.
WE WORK WITH THEM. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE'VE BEEN SO FAR PARTNERING WITH IN OUR DISCUSSIONS ON SUITABLE SOLUTIONS OR ALTERNATIVES TO THAT. OKAY. BUT YEAH. AND IN FACT, THEY ALSO PROVIDE A LOT OF OUR SUPPORT.
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WE'RE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO BE, TO BE HONEST. WE'RE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO BE THAT IMPORTANT TO THEM.SO THIRD PARTY SUPPORT IS NEEDED FOR THAT. AND IT'S ANOTHER FACTOR.
WE HAVE TO WORK INTO THE ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS AS WELL, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THE POTENTIAL UPFRONT COSTS, SUPPORT COSTS ALL HAVE TO BE FIGURED OUT BASED ON NUMBER OF CORES THAT WE'RE OUR SERVERS HAVE AND VARIOUS OTHER FACTORS THAT I'LL BORE YOU TO DEATH WITH IF I GET INTO AT THIS MOMENT. BUT I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT IF THE BOARD DIDN'T FUND YOU WITH $30,000 INCREASE FOR VMWARE, YOU KNOW, HOW BRISKLY COULD YOU PIVOT? AND IT'S A TOUGH ONE. IT DEPENDS, YOU KNOW. WE'RE CURRENTLY CURRENTLY WAITING FOR A FEW, SOME SOME OF THE NUMBERS TO COME BACK ON WHAT IT WOULD COST.
SO CERTAINLY WE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A HABIT OF MAKING DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE, AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I MEAN, WE COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITHOUT EXTENDING SERVICE, BUT THAT WOULD BE, OF COURSE, NOT A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR PATCHES AND SECURITY UPDATES AND THINGS THAT WOULD HELP KEEP OUR DATA PROTECTED.
SO WE IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO PLAY AROUND WITH FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT AS FAR AS SWITCHING TO ANOTHER SOLUTION, IT WOULD BE.
I MEAN, I'M JUST OPTIMISTICALLY SPITBALLING. I MEAN, IT PROBABLY SIX MONTHS.
BEST CASE SCENARIO. AND EVEN THEN, IF SOLUTIONS, LET'S SAY THE TWO PRIMARY WE'RE LOOKING AT, IF THEY AREN'T COMPATIBLE WITH OUR HARDWARE, THEN THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME UPFRONT COSTS OF SIGNIFICANTLY PRICED EQUIPMENT TO CHANGE OUR VMWARE SERVERS OR HOSTS. IN ADDITION TO THE NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE DEVICES THAT STORE ALL OF OUR SERVER DATA.
BECAUSE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS OUT THERE DON'T POTENTIALLY WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S A BIG HAUL, A BIG TASK, AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, PLANNING OUT AND EXECUTING THESE THINGS IS DIFFICULT TO US RIGHT NOW WITH THE WORKLOAD.
AND I'M HOPING THAT I'M NOT TRYING TO JUST GIVE ANOTHER PITCH FOR IT, BUT HONESTLY, AN EXTRA BODY IN THERE TO TAKE ON SOME LEADERSHIP AND TO TO HELP MANAGE PROJECTS. WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVELY, BUT EVEN THEN IT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS. YES, SIR.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
ALL RIGHT. JUST FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, THIS POSITION YOU REQUESTED LAST YEAR.
TWO, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR. THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR WE'RE ASKING FOR IT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. SIR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
AND WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR LAST ONE OF THE EVENING EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
HELLO. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MISS BALOW, MISS BAXTER.
ALL RIGHTY. THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S OUR COMPLEMENT OF STAFFING IS AT 20 CURRENTLY.
THAT CONSISTS OF ONE DIRECTOR, TWO SUPERVISOR, 17 EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS, WHICH ARE ALSO REFERRED TO AS ECOS AND ONE RADIO TECHNICIAN THAT'S CONTRACTED THROUGH THE L3 HARRIS SERVICE AGREEMENT.
THAT IS NOT PART OF THE COUNTY POSITION CONTROL CHART, HOWEVER, DOES REPORT TO THE ECC UNDER MY MANAGEMENT OUR DAILY SHIFT MINIMUMS RIGHT NOW ARE THREE FROM 8 A.M. TO MIDNIGHT, AND WE CAN REDUCE DOWN TO TWO AT MIDNIGHT TO 8 A.M.
THAT IS NOT THE IDEAL STAFFING THAT WE WOULD LIKE.
OUR TYPICAL STRUCTURE, IF WE WERE FULL, STAFFING WOULD BE FOUR PER SHIFT.
THAT GIVES US ONE RADIO OPERATOR, A POLICE I'M SORRY, A POLICE OPERATOR, A FIRE OPERATOR, A CALL TAKER, AND THEN SOMEONE TO BACK UP IF SOMEONE'S OUT OF THE ROOM AND WHATNOT.
AND THAT IS EXCLUDING THE SUPERVISORS AS WELL.
SOME QUICK STATISTICS ON OUR PHONE RECORDS AND RADIO STATS.
OUR FIVE YEAR AVERAGE PHONE TRAFFIC TREND IS AT 7%.
WE ENTER OUR WARRANTS IN OUR PROTECTIVE ORDER, STOLEN VEHICLES, ETC.
THAT WENT UP 18% FROM THREE 3320 TO 4119. THIS IS TYPICAL IN OUR INDUSTRY.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF THIS HAPPEN ACROSS THE STATE.
AND THEN OUR RADIO TRANSMISSIONS. DAILY AVERAGE TRANSMIT, RECEIVE AND MONITOR IS AROUND 1475.
WHICH YOU DON'T SEE ON THE SLIDE IS THE 24,000 POLICE DISPATCHERS THAT WE DO.
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AND THEN THE RIGHT AROUND 6000 FIRE EMS DISPATCHERS, AS WELL AS THE 101 FOIA AND AUDIO REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HANDLED OVER THE COURSE OF 2025.OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE, LIKE ANYONE IN PUBLIC SAFETY, IS HIRING, STAFFING AND RETENTION.
THE 911 INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE, NATIONWIDE IS CONSIDERED A CRISIS.
THE MOST COMMON REASON CITED WOULD BE THE STRESS AND EMOTIONAL BURNOUT, THE POOR WORK LIFE BALANCE WITH IRREGULAR SCHEDULES AND MANDATORY OVERTIME THAT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY. THE LACK OF CAREER DEVELOPMENT AND THEN MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES AND COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION.
IF I WERE TO LOOK AT THIS SLIDE AND SAY OUR PAST SIX RESIGNATIONS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS WOULD ALL BE A RESULT OF ONE OF THESE, IF NOT A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS HERE. OUR PROPOSED ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.
I'LL BE COMING NEXT WEEK TO YOU FOLKS TO REQUEST A RECLASSIFICATION ONE RECLASSIFICATION FROM A EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR TO MANAGER, AND THEN THREE ECOS TO SUPERVISORS TO PROVIDE FRONT LINE SUPERVISION.
AND WE WILL ELIMINATE ONE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER POSITION TO HELP ACCOMMODATE THAT FINANCIALLY, WHICH WOULD COME IN AT A REDUCTION IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET.
THANK YOU BOTH. SURE. THANK YOU. I AM REQUESTING ONE NEW POSITION THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PUBLIC SAFETY TECHNOLOGY COORDINATOR POSITION. THE POSITION WILL ACT AS THE PRIMARY TECHNOLOGY COORDINATOR FOR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS.
THAT INCLUDES THE ECC, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS FORT LEE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS.
WE RECEIVED ABOUT OVER 600 PHONE REQUESTS, EMAIL AND TICKET SYSTEM ANNUALLY.
THE COMPLEXITY WITHIN THAT TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN SPEND ANYWHERE FROM A FEW MINUTES RESETTING THE PASSWORD TO WEEKS OR HOURS, OR EVEN A MONTH WITH VENDOR SUPPORT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BREAK IS IN TECHNOLOGY TO GET SOMETHING UP AND RUNNING.
THE POSITION WOULD HANDLE OVER 130 DEVICES. THOSE DEVICES WOULD BE THE COMPUTERS THAT ARE IN THE THE CARS OF FIRE AND EMS, AS WELL AS PUBLIC FORT LEE AND 175 USER ACCOUNTS AND ULTIMATELY PROVIDE 24 OVER SEVEN SUPPORT TO MISSION CRITICAL SYSTEMS. WITHOUT THESE SYSTEMS, WE'RE DEAD IN THE WATER AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S PRETTY CHAOTIC TO WATCH IT WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN.
AND THEN THE LAST BULLET THERE IS BEING PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE.
GENERALLY, WHY THE POSITION IS NEEDED AGAIN IS TO MAINTAIN THE 24 SEVEN MISSION CRITICAL TECHNOLOGY BY PROVIDING OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND SYSTEM RELIABILITY ACROSS ALL PUBLIC SAFETY PLATFORMS. AND AS A SIDE NOTE, THERE YOU SEE, IN 2019, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH FORT LEE TO COME ONBOARD WITH OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH PROGRAM AND OUR PHOTO PHONE EQUIPMENT, ALONG WITH VARIOUS OTHER SOFTWARES.
AND THEN SOME OF THE KEY RESPONSIBILITIES WILL BE HIGHLIGHTS IN YOUR PACKET OF THE FULL JOB DESCRIPTION, BUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF IT IS THE DAY TO DAY SUPPORT OF TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS AND THEN MAINTAINING THE 24 OVER SEVEN MISSION CRITICAL OPERATIONS.
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. WE ARE ASKING FORT LEE TO HELP US IN THIS AND COST SHARING PROPOSAL TO REDUCE THE BURDEN BY 56,594. THE PROJECTED SALARY IS AT 74,201, WITH THE BENEFITS INCLUDING WOULD BE 113, 188 AND AGAIN 56594 WOULD BE FORT LEE'S CUT OF IT. WE ARE CURRENTLY SPEAKING WITH FORT LEE AND UPDATING THE IGSA TO INCLUDE THESE TERMS, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING IT FORWARD AT A FUTURE MEETING.
AND IN CONCLUSION, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HERE, IT SUPPORTS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS BY ENSURING TECHNOLOGY THEY DEPEND ON IS RELIABLE, SECURE AND EFFECTIVE. CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. START TO MY LEFT, MR. FORD PUGH. I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY POSITION IS YOU HAVE PLANS FOR AN EMPLOYEE TO GO IN THAT POSITION, RIGHT? THEY'VE KIND OF ALREADY HANDLED THAT. SO IT'S A POLICE OFFICER'S POSITION NOW? IT'S, SHE IS ELIGIBLE FOR RETIREMENT COMING UP IN JULY.
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OKAY. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU HAVE TO POST FOR THIS.CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S STABILIZED, BUT YOU STILL GOT FAIRLY.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY GREEN. THAT'S THE WRONG WORD TO USE. BUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS ON THE JOB, SO TO SPEAK. BUT THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. OKAY, MR. HAMMEL? YES. SO I'LL ASK A SIMILAR QUESTION, BECAUSE I REALIZE THIS ROLE WOULD TOUCH SOME OF THE THE HELP DESK TICKETS.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY CURRENT METRICS AROUND HOW THE TICKETS THAT APPLY TO THIS AREA OF KIND OF IT TYPE ROLES, OR ARE WE HITTING THOSE? ARE WE MISSING THEM? AND DO YOU SEE THIS ROLE KIND OF IMPACTING THAT SORT OF MEASURE OR HOW WE'RE HOW WE'RE HANDLING THOSE TICKETS? SURE. IT WOULD I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE BETTER.
THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE 24/7 FOR THESE SYSTEMS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO PHONE CALLS AFTER HOURS SUPPORT.
AND SO I WOULD SAY THE RESPONSE TIME IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER.
BECAUSE OF MY NORMAL DUTIES. IT IS A LITTLE SLOWER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE, I FEEL LIKE.
BUT WITH THIS POSITION, THIS WOULD BE THEIR TARGET.
ARE WE MISSING ANY KIND OF DEPARTMENT GOALS AROUND THOSE TICKETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT CURRENTLY.
OKAY. BEING THAT WE PARTNER WITH FORT LEE ON THESE ROLES, DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE ALSO DISPATCHING FORT LEE RESOURCES FOR ON ON BASE INCIDENTS AS WELL? NO, SIR. THEY'RE ON OUR PHONE SYSTEM.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THE TOWERS HIT HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE.
WE INTERCEPT THE CALL AND WE TRANSFER IT INTO THEIR ECC WITH THE EXCEPTION OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHING, WE DO THEIR THEIR CRITICAL CALLS, SUCH AS CHILDBIRTH, CPR FOR THEM WHILE THEY'RE ON THE LINE.
AWESOME. THANK YOU. THE L3, THE L3 HARRIS LINE ITEM.
I KNOW WE'RE SHOWING A DECREASE OF 36695 ON THAT LINE.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS SOMETHING WE FIXED IN THE PAST.
I THINK YOU WENT AND FOUND THOSE SAVINGS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT APPLIED TO THE CURRENT BUDGET AND IS IT A DECREASE NEXT YEAR, OR IS IT TRULY ONLY REFLECTED IN THE FUTURE BUDGET? THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MISS DREWRY. I BELIEVE WE WILL REAP THAT SAVINGS IN THIS CURRENT YEAR AS WELL.
AWESOME. IF WE GO TO A 4-4 MODEL, DO YOU EXPECT THE THE OVERTIME BUDGET TO DECREASE AS FAR AS HAVING MORE FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO WORK THOSE SHIFTS? IF WE CAN RETAIN. SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT WITH US IS THE TRAINING ASPECT.
SO WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES RIGHT NOW WITH FOREIGN TRAINING.
SO THAT'S SEVEN THAT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS OPERATIONAL IMPACT RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW. I KNOW WE STABILIZED FOR A BIT, BUT THE WHAT I'M SEEING HISTORICALLY AND AND NATIONWIDE IS FOLKS LEAVING BECAUSE OF THE MENTAL STRESS AND AS WELL AS THE ERRATIC SCHEDULES.
AWESOME. THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. MR. PHILIP.
WE TALKED ABOUT SWITCHING THE SCHEDULE. SWITCHING YOUR DISPATCH SCHEDULE.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU GOT BURNOUT AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THERE ANOTHER SCHEDULE THAT YOU'VE ENTERTAINED MOVING TO? WE HAVE EXHAUSTIVELY LOOKED AT EVERY AVENUE OF.
THIS IS THE 12 HOUR SHIFT THAT RUNS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WIDELY THE FAVORITE, BECAUSE IT DOES PROVIDE WHAT SOME LIFE BALANCE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE SOMEWHAT NORMAL. SO WE HAVE BUT THE 12 HOURS IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WITHIN THE 911 CENTER.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT FORT LEE.
SO YOU GOT ANYTHING? LAST CALL. HEARING NONE.
THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY. WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF OUR WORK SESSION.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT PRESENTED TONIGHT.
TAKE A DEEP BREATH. WE DIDN'T COME AFTER YOU.
WE JUST ASKED FOR QUESTIONS. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION GO INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO CODE 2.2-3711 A.1 AND 8 FOR DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT RELATED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND FOR CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING SPECIFIC LEGAL MATTERS RELATED THERETO.
RESPECTFULLY. OKAY, YOU HEARD THE MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. HAMMEL? YES. MR. FORD PUGH? YES. MR. WEBB? YES. MR. COX? YES. MR. PHILIP PUGH? YES. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BE IN CLOSED SESSION.
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ASK FOR A MOTION TO COME BACK INTO OPEN SESSION.MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. THAT'S THE WRONG ONE.
YOU DID, YOU SWITCHED IT AROUND. SECOND PAGE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION AND CERTIFY, PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 2.2-3712D, THAT ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS AND IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE.
ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. FORD? YES. MR. WEBB. YES.
MR. COX. YES. MR. PHILIP PUGH. YES. MR. HAMMEL.
YES. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
SO MOVED. HAVE A MOTION, HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
SECOND. SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION. T.J, OR PHILIP T THE ONE FOR THE SECOND? YEAH, I DON'T CARE. JUST PICK ONE. OKAY. OKAY.
READY? YEAH. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. COX? YES. MR. PHILIP PUGH. YES. MR. HAMMEL. YES. MR. FORD PUGH.
YES. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. YOU TOO.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.