[A. Call to Order (6:00 pm)] [00:00:04] GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS NOVEMBER THE 12TH, 2025. IT IS 6 P.M. IT'S NOW TIME FOR OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING. WE'LL START OUR CALL TO ORDER. THE FIRST ITEM IS AUTHORIZATION FOR ELECTRONIC PARTICIPATION. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. IT'S NOT NEEDED FOR TONIGHT. MISS WAYMACK IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, NOR WILL SHE BE PARTICIPATING ELECTRONICALLY. SO WITH THAT STATED, MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. BROWN. HERE. MISS WAYMACK IS ABSENT. MR. COX. HERE. MR. PUGH. HERE. MR. WEBB. HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE NEXT THING WE'LL DO IS THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. I NEED A MOTION FOR ADOPTION, PLEASE. MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. PUGH AND SECONDED BY MR. COX THAT WE WOULD ADOPT THE AGENDA AS SO, STATED AND AS SHOWN IN BOARD DOCS. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. COX. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MOTION CARRIED. WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO THE BUSINESS MEETING. [B. Business Meeting] I WILL DO THE BOARD´S INVOCATION, AND AFTER I DO THE INVOCATION, WE'LL HAVE MR. JOSHUA MCPEAK, WHO IS OUR EAGLE SCOUT. HE WILL COME FORWARD AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING JUST SIMPLY TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO MEET YET AGAIN TO HANDLE THE BUSINESS HERE OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK YOU TO WATCH OVER ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH SOME THINGS. I WILL NOT TRY TO CALL OUT THE NAMES, BUT YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO LEAD, GUIDE AND DIRECT US AND HELP US AS WE WORK THROUGH THE VARIOUS ISSUES AND THINGS THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE US. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS, ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, OUR ADMINISTRATION, AND WATCH OVER THEM AS EACH ONE GOES THROUGH WHAT THEY DEAL WITH EACH AND EVERY DAY. AGAIN, WE ASK YOU TO WRAP YOUR LOVING ARMS OF PROTECTION AROUND EACH AND EVERYONE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS EVENING. WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU TO MR. MCPEAK FOR LEADING US IN THAT PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE NEXT ITEM WE'LL MOVE TO IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AS YOU HOPEFULLY KNOW BY NOW, YOU COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES THAT YOU CAN BRING UP ANY MATTER TO THE ATTENTION OF THIS BOARD. THE ONLY RESTRICTION IS THE ONE ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT REGARDING A LEASE RENEWAL AT THE CENTRAL WELLNESS CENTER. THE OTHER THING IS YOU EITHER HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY OR YOU OWN PROPERTY HERE IN THE COUNTY. SO AT THIS TIME, LET ME START WITH. MRS. KNOTT, IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS SIGNED UP WITH YOU, MA'AM? NO, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT, MISS PUDLOW, IS THERE ANYONE THAT'S VIRTUALLY ON THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AT THIS TIME AND SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? PLEASE APPROACH NOW IF YOU WOULD. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? I SEE NO ONE MOVING THIS WAY. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. BOARD MEMBERS, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE ITEMS THAT ARE STATED [C. Consent Agenda] HERE WITHIN BOARD DOCS. SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECONDED BY MR. WEBB THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. COX. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MOTION CARRIED. NEXT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. [D. Presentations] THERE'S A RESOLUTION FOR RECOGNIZING OUR EAGLE SCOUT, MR. JOSHUA MCPEAK AND I WOULD ASK MR. COX IF HE WOULD PRESENT THAT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, AND WOULD ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS TO PLEASE STAND DURING THIS. [00:08:56] CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. COME ON, MR. COX. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. YES, SIR. WHAT A WONDERFUL THING TO RECOGNIZE SUCH AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. SO I'M SO PROUD OF HIM. THE NEXT PART OF OUR MEETING, WE MOVE INTO COMMENTS AND WILL BE WITH SUPERVISOR COMMENTS, [E. Comments] AND I WILL START TO MY RIGHT WITH MR. PUGH. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. [00:10:05] GLAD TO SEE A LOT OF FACES OUT HERE TONIGHT. I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING COMING UP. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR TONIGHT. OKAY. MR. COX. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. JUST A LITTLE REMINDER. WE'VE HAD TIME CHANGE, SO WE'RE DRIVING IN DIFFERENT HOURS OF THE DAY, DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERE, OUTSIDE LIGHTING. BUT SOMETHING THAT WE FAIL TO REMEMBER SOMETIMES IS LEAVES ON THE ROADWAY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S RAINING. IT AFFECTS YOUR STOPPING DISTANCE. SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL ON THE ROADS. WATCH FOR THE DEER. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. OKAY. MR. WEBB. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT. I LIKE WHAT THE OTHER TWO HAVE SAID. AND THE LEAVES ARE ONE THING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU RIDE A MOTORCYCLE. BUT YOU DEFINITELY GOT TO START WATCHING THE DEER, AS HUNTING SEASON STARTS. I'VE ALREADY SEEN QUITE A FEW CARS TALK WITH DEER ALREADY. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. AGAIN, I ECHO WHAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAVE STATED. TWO THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP RELATED TO THE TIME CHANGE, BECAUSE I TYPICALLY DO THIS MYSELF, AND I USE THAT AS A REMINDER TO CHANGE THE BATTERIES IN MY SMOKE DETECTORS AT HOME. SO I TRY TO DO THAT THE TWO TIMES WHEN THE TIME CHANGES, SO THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE FUNCTIONING AND WORKING PROPERLY. I HAD THE PLEASURE AND HONOR ON THIS PAST SUNDAY TO SPEAK AT UNION BRANCH BAPTIST CHURCH. THEIR VETERAN´S MINISTRY RECOGNIZED THE VIETNAM WAR VETERANS, AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE SPEAKER FOR THAT PROGRAM. AND ONE PROMISE I MADE TO THEM IS THAT FROM THAT DAY GOING FORWARD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS EACH AND EVERY DAY FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND THEIR SERVICE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VETERANS DAY, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER TIME COMING UP IN MARCH. BUT WHEN THESE PEOPLE WENT AND FOUGHT FOR US AND DIED FOR US, IT WASN'T A PART TIME THING. THEY DID IT THE WHOLE TIME THAT THEY WERE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, PROTECTING US AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. SO I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON MY COMMITMENT THAT I MADE TO THEM THAT EVENING. SO THANK YOU. NOW IT'S TIME FOR OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON SATURDAY, THERE WILL BE A PRINCE GEORGE SPECIAL HOLIDAY FARMERS MARKET FROM 10 TO 2 AT SCOTT PARK, ALONG WITH ON SITE PET ADOPTIONS AT THE PRINCE GEORGE LIBRARY. DINOSAUR CRAFT DAY WILL BEGIN AT 11 A.M. ON MONDAY THE 17TH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE A SPECIAL WORK SESSION ON THE PG 2045 COMP PLAN RIGHT HERE IN THE BOARDROOM AT 5:30. ON WEDNESDAY THE 19TH, THE PRINCE GEORGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY WILL MEET IN THE SECOND FLOOR BREAK ROOM AT NOON. AND ON THURSDAY, THE 20TH OF NOVEMBER, PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HAVE ITS REGULAR MEETING IN THE BOARDROOM, WORK SESSION AT 5:30 AND REGULAR MEETING AT 6:30. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. STOKE. SO WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, [F. Public Hearings] WHICH IS A CENTRAL WELLNESS CENTER LEASE. AND THIS WILL BE FOR THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 1703. SO I THINK THAT'S MISS PASTOR WHO'S GOING TO BE PRESENTING THAT. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN BROWN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND MR. STOKE. GOOD EVENING. WHAT I'M PRESENTING TONIGHT, THIS IS THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 1703. THEY HAVE A LEASE CURRENTLY IN A ROOM IN THE CENTRAL WELLNESS CENTER. THEY'VE HAD THAT LEASE SINCE DECEMBER 1ST OF 2021. HOWEVER, THAT LEASE DOES EXPIRE ON NOVEMBER 30TH OF 2025. THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY AND EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RENEWING THIS LEASE. THE BOARD WILL NOTE IN THE CONTRACT AND THE LEASE, THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE RENT. THAT IS BECAUSE THE ROOM HAD RECENTLY BEEN REMEASURED. THE MEASUREMENTS PURSUANT TO THE LEASE HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY INCORRECT. SO IT'S TO REFLECT THE CORRECT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ROOM, WHICH REFLECTS THE INCREASE IN THE PRICE. WE DID RUN AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING BACK ON NOVEMBER 5TH, AND I BELIEVE THAT MISS GENITA RUFFIN OR ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE AMERICAN LEGION MIGHT BE. YES, THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT. IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, AND I BELIEVE THEY MAY WISH TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE BOARD AS WELL. BUT WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD FOR AUTHORIZATION TO RESIGN THAT LEASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS PASTOR AT THIS TIME? NO. I'M GOOD. OKAY, THEN WE'LL LET THEM COME ON UP AND SPEAK NOW BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC HEARING. [00:15:03] GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VERLON FARRIS. I'M AT 3900 DOE RUN ROAD NORTH, PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA. MABEL FARRIS, SAME ADDRESS. YEAH. [INAUDIBLE]. SO WE REALLY LOVE THE PLACE, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT THAT YOU GUYS ALLOWED US. THE COUNCIL ALLOWED US TO BE THERE AND RENT THE BUILDING. THE ROOM. YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS. WE DO A LOT OF DONATIONS LIKE THIS COMING UP THIS CHRISTMAS. WE'LL BE GIVING OUT A LOT OF TOYS. AND THIS MONTH WE'LL BE GIVING OUT TURKEYS AND FEEDING THE HOMELESS ALSO. SO OUR MONEY KIND OF STRETCHES BECAUSE ALL THE MONEY COMES IN, WE GOT TO SEND IT OUT SO WE CAN'T KEEP IT. SO IF POSSIBLE, I KNOW IT'S GOING UP, BUT IF YOU CAN WAVE IT A $440 UNTIL NEXT YEAR, GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. BUT IF NOT, IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW? BUT WE DO A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK SOME OF Y'ALL SEEN US OUT THERE IN ACTION. SO WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO. OH, ALSO MY WIFE, SHE'S A ACCREDITED SERVICE OFFICER. AND WHEN WE USED THE BUILDING TO BRING VETERANS IN SO THEY CAN WORK ON THEIR PERCENTAGE FOR THE VA AND DO CLAIMS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AS MY HUSBAND SAID WE DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A PROPER TIME TO BRING IT UP, BUT I'M GUESSING SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEASE, IF THERE'S ANY WAY IF WE HAVE AN EXTENDED LEASE LIKE WE DID IN THE PAST, BECAUSE THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IN THE, IN THE SPACE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WANTING TO DO IT. IF WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WE'LL BE THERE. WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS LIKE PAINTING, BUT OTHER THINGS COST MORE MONEY. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THE MONEY TOWARDS THAT, WE'D LIKE TO KIND OF HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, OUR LONGEVITY. HOPEFULLY, AS LONG AS THE BUILDING IS THERE AND YOU ALL ARE, YOU KNOW, GIVING NONPROFITS A CHANCE TO HOLD THE SPACE. WE GET A LOT DONE, HELPED A LOT OF VETERANS WITH THEIR CLAIMS, AND WE OPEN TO ANY NEW MEMBERS OR ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED. HONORABLE DISCHARGE VETERANS ARE ALL ELIGIBLE TO JOIN THE AMERICAN LEGION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MISS PASTOR, JUST BEFORE WE GO INTO THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION. YES, SIR. CURRENTLY, THE LEASE IS FOR. IT IS FOR ONE YEAR. SO THE RENT WOULD START ON DECEMBER 1ST OF 2025 UNTIL NOVEMBER 30TH OF 2026. OKAY. AND IF THE BOARD WANTS TO KNOW ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SUCH AS THE AMOUNT PER SQUARE FOOT OR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR THE LEASE PER YEAR, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. OKAY. SO I'M ASKING, DOES THE BOARD HAVE THE PURVIEW TO MAKE THAT FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, OR IS THERE ANYTHING LEGALLY THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT? OR. I'M ASKING FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS SITTING UP HERE. I MEAN, CERTAINLY THAT'S A TERM IF THE BOARD WISHES TO INCREASE. THIS IS JUST A RENEWAL OF THE PRIOR TERM. SO CERTAINLY IF THAT'S A TERM THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE, THAT'S WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW. OKAY. AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS DOES THE BOARD HAVE THE OPTION AS FAR AS TO DEFER THE INCREASE FOR A YEAR. YES. THAT WOULD ALSO BE WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW. OKAY. JUST JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S WITHIN OUR WHEELHOUSE UP HERE, SO. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE PREVIOUS LEASE WAS? THE PREVIOUS LEASE? I DON'T HAVE THE AMOUNT OF THE PREVIOUS LEASE BECAUSE THAT WAS BASED ON A DIFFERENT SQUARE FOOTAGE. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE ME TONIGHT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT TO YOU. OKAY. BUT THE PREVIOUS TERMS WERE FOR ONE YEAR. OKAY. HOW DID Y'ALL COME UP WITH $3 A SQUARE FOOT? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? THAT. I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU TONIGHT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. IT MAY JUST BE A STANDARD AMOUNT THAT OUR COUNTY USES. BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE'RE LEASING TO DOWN THERE, CORRECT? NO, THERE'S OTHER GROUPS DOWN THERE. THERE'S OTHER ONES. I KNOW, LIKE THE WOMEN'S CLUB AND OTHER GROUPS THAT MEET DOWN THERE AS WELL. OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD FOR NOW? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. [00:20:01] THANK YOU, MISS PASTOR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING UP FOR PUBLIC INPUT PORTION. THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE US AND SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THIS PUBLIC HEARING. IT FOLLOWS THE SAME RULES AS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. YOU HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN OR OWN PROPERTY AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. I WILL START WITH MRS. KNOTT. HAS THERE BEEN ANYONE THAT HAS SIGNED UP WITH YOU TO SPEAK? NO, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT, MISS PUDLOW, ANYBODY ELECTRONICALLY ON? IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME? IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD, SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND RETURN THIS MATTER BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE OFFER THEM A LEASE FROM DECEMBER 1ST TO NOVEMBER 30TH OF 2027, AND DEFER THE INCREASE FOR ONE YEAR. OKAY. I NEED A SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. AND. YES, SIR. I GOT ONE QUESTION. YES, SIR. I'M FINE WITH BOTH OF THEM, AS LONG AS WE'RE GOING TO BE FAIR AND CONSISTENT WITH ANY OTHER LEASES WE GOT COMING UP IN THE NEXT 3, 4 OR 5, 6 MONTHS TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE DO OR NOT, BUT I KNOW AT LEAST MORE THAN ONE ROOM DOWN THERE AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS CHANGED, I GET THAT. THAT MEANS EVERYBODY WILL GET THAT. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR AND CONSISTENT FOR WHOEVER ELSE IS COMING UP WITHIN A TIME FRAME. RIGHT, SO ARE YOU. FOREVER. ARE YOU ASKING? I'M HAPPY TO DO THIS, TO REVIEW THE EXISTING LEASES, TO SEE IF. I CAN JUST TAKE THE COMMITMENT FROM THE BOARD THAT THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE IT GOING FORWARD. BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE NOTED. OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SECOND. IT'S ALREADY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND IS MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. PUGH THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS RENEWAL OF THE LEASE EFFECTIVE FROM DECEMBER 1ST OF 2025 THROUGH NOVEMBER OF 2027. CORRECT, SIR? YES, SIR. AND THAT WE WOULD DEFER THE INCREASE IN THE RENTAL FOR ONE YEAR? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. WHAT MADE US REMEASURE THE ROOM? WHAT PROMPTED THAT TO FIND OUT WE WERE CHARGING FOR THE WRONG SQUARE FOOTAGE? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. AND THEN JUST A QUESTION FOR THE BOARD. I KNOW THE LEASE HOLDER WANTED TO DO SOME UPGRADES TO THAT ROOM. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO MAYBE GO? OKAY, HEY, IF YOU MAKE $500 WORTH OF UPGRADES, WE'LL KNOCK THAT OFF THE RENT OR TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO THINK ABOUT FOR FUTURE LEASES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR WE DON'T WANT TO TOUCH IT? I BELIEVE IF WE DO LEASE, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY, WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS THEY MAKE. OKAY. SO THAT GETS KIND OF DICEY. YEAH. I'M JUST THINKING THAT IF THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDING, THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S NOT A COST TO US, BUT, RIGHT? THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAD. OKAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT IS WITHIN THEIR LEASE CONTRACT THAT IF THEY DO WANT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY WOULD JUST NEED BOARD APPROVAL FIRST. SO WE WOULD NEED TO REVIEW WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE. OKAY, RIGHT? SO THE MOTION´S ON THE FLOOR. THE MOTION'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. PUGH. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. COX. YES. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU EVERYONE. YES. MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE FIRST REPORT WE HAVE TONIGHT WILL BE MR. [G. Reports] PAUL HINSON TO DO OUR VDOT REPORT THIS MONTH. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE. GOOD EVENING SIR. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THOSE APPROPRIATE SAFETY MESSAGES. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO AT THE BEGINNING OF ONE OF OUR MEETINGS. WE ALWAYS START OUR MEETINGS WITH A SAFETY MESSAGE. SO APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT WEREN'T IN YOUR PACKAGE THIS EVENING. THE BIG ONE, TEMPLETON ROAD. WE HAVE HAD A FEW WEATHER DELAYS, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THE HEADWALLS OUT THERE. THAT'S THE THING WE GOT LEFT TO DO. SO OUR COFFER DAMS ARE IN PLACE. WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR PIPES IN PLACE. WE'VE GOT MOST OF OUR FILL IN THERE. WE HAVE TO BUILD OUR WALLS. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. AND ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET OUR FINAL BACKFILL IN AND GET IT PAVED. THERE IS A SAFETY REVIEW ONGOING ON BULL RUN ROAD THAT'S UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. AND THEN OUR PRIMARY AND SECONDARY MOWINGS, THEY'RE BOTH ABOUT 70% COMPLETE RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTY. [00:25:06] IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM OR GET YOU THE ANSWERS. OKAY. DOES ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HINSON? NO. I'M GOOD. OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOOD THIS EVENING. YOU'RE GETTING OFF EASY THIS TIME. I AM GETTING OFF EASY. I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO WRITE ANYTHING ON THE BACK OR FIND OUT ABOUT POTHOLES OR ROADS OR ANYTHING. YES, SIR. YOU ALL HAVE A NICE AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. OUR NEXT REPORT IS GOING TO BE OUR CRATER DISTRICT AREA AGENCY ON AGING. AND THIS IS MISS RENATA SHARNICK? CORRECT. OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PRONOUNCED THAT RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RENATA SHARNICK. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CRATER DISTRICT AREA AGENCY ON AGING. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CRATER DISTRICT, WHICH PROUDLY SERVES OLDER ADULTS AND CAREGIVERS THROUGHOUT THE GREATER REGION, INCLUDING RIGHT HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY. THE CRATER DISTRICT AREA AGENCY ON AGING IS PART OF THE STATEWIDE NETWORK OF 25 AGENCIES. OUR MISSION IS TO HELP OLDER ADULTS REMAIN HEALTHY, INDEPENDENT AND LIVING SAFELY IN THEIR HOMES FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS 60 YEARS AND OLDER, THEIR CAREGIVERS AND ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES. FOCUS ON SUPPORTING INDEPENDENCE, SAFETY AND DIGNITY. SENIOR POPULATION 60 PLUS IN PRINCE GEORGE REPRESENT 8095 RESIDENTS, NEARLY 19% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION WE SERVE ACROSS THE CRATER DISTRICT. PRINCE GEORGE IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST AND FASTEST GROWING SERVICE AREAS. THE INCREASING SENIOR POPULATION UNDERSCORES THE IMPACT IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING AND EXPANDING OUR SERVICE HERE. THROUGH A COMBINATION OF FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL FUNDING, CDAA PROVIDES A WIDE RANGE OF ESSENTIAL PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT OLDER RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES, INCLUDING HOME DELIVERED MEALS, CONGREGATE MEALS, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, HOMEMAKER SERVICES. WE ALSO EXPANDED AND OPENED NEW PROGRAMS RECENTLY, AND THEY INCLUDE CARE COORDINATION. AND THAT PROGRAM IS ACTIVE NOW AND FOCUSED ON HELPING SENIORS ACCESS HOME MODIFICATIONS SUCH AS RAMPS, SAFETY REPAIRS, AND ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO ALLOW THEM TO AGE IN PLACE SAFELY. OUR PROGRAM PROVIDES HOME REPAIRS, LIGHT MAINTENANCE, AND HOUSEHOLD ASSISTANCE FOR OLDER ADULTS WHO CAN NO LONGER SAFELY MANAGE THESE TASKS. RESPITE AND CAREGIVER SUPPORT PROGRAMS CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED TO PROVIDE SHORT TERM RELIEF FOR CAREGIVERS AND ONGOING TRAINING, EDUCATION, AND EMOTIONAL SUPPORT FOR FAMILIES CARING FOR AGING LOVED ONES. THESE PROGRAMS NOT ONLY IMPROVE SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR SENIORS, BUT ALSO STRENGTHENS FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS WHO ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR AGING NETWORK. OUR PROGRAMS REPRESENT A STRONG RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE COUNTY AND THE COMMONWEALTH BY KEEPING SENIORS SAFE AND SUPPORTED AT HOME. WE HELP PREVENT PREMATURE NURSING HOME PLACEMENT AND REDUCE EMERGENCY MEDICAL COSTS, SAVING TAXPAYERS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER INDIVIDUAL EACH YEAR. EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED IN AGING SERVICES DELIVERS MEASURABLE SAVINGS IN HEALTHCARE AND LONG TERM CARE COSTS WHILE IMPROVING OVERALL COMMUNITY WELL-BEING. AND I PREPARED A SCORECARD JUST TO LET THE BOARD KNOW HOW MANY SERVICES. SOME OF THE MORE IMPORTANT, THE UNITS WE ACTUALLY SERVE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY. WE OVERALL, SERVE 525 CLIENTS. LAST YEAR WE DELIVERED TWO 3208 HOME DELIVERED MEALS. WE PROVIDED 329 [00:30:01] CONGREGATE MEALS. WE PROVIDED 1300 TRIPS TO DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW RECREATION, LIKE YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE STORE FOR THE MOST ISOLATED OLDER ADULTS. AS WE SAID WE JUST OPENED CARE COORDINATION AND WE ALREADY SERVED TWO CLIENTS. WE ALSO PROVIDE INSURANCE COUNSELING AND HOMEMAKER SERVICES. WE PROVIDED 94 HOURS OF LEGAL AID SERVICES TO OLDER ADULTS, FREE OF CHARGE FOR THEM. WE ALSO PROVIDED EMERGENCY SERVICES, LIKE PAYING, YOU KNOW, BILLS BEFORE THEY, FOR EXAMPLE, SHUT DOWN THE ELECTRICITY OR WATER, TO SIX CLIENTS. IN CLOSING, PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY IS HOME TO MORE THAN 8000 OLDER ADULTS, AND THEIR NEEDS ARE GROWING EACH YEAR. CRATER DISTRICT AREA AGENCY ON AGING REMAINS COMMITTED TO PARTNERING WITH YOU TO ENSURE THAT THESE RESIDENTS CAN AGE WITH DIGNITY AND INDEPENDENCE, AND THE SUPPORT THEY DESERVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP AND DEDICATION TO THE OLDER CITIZENS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. I'M GOOD. OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD WE GET YOU TO LEAVE THAT SO WE CAN SCAN THAT AND UPLOAD IT INTO OUR SYSTEM SO THAT IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO LOOK BACK LATER AND SEE WHAT YOU PRESENTED, WE WOULD. SO IF YOU COULD LEAVE THAT WITH OUR CLERK, PLEASE. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT REPORT IS OUR CRATER AREA COALITION ON HOMELESSNESS, AND THAT IS MISS WEATHERS, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. SHE'S NOT HERE? SHE'S NOT HERE. I GUESS SHE'S NOT HERE. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ORDER OF BUSINESS. [H. Order of Business] THE FIRST ITEM IS A RESOLUTION FOR A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT FOR PAYMENT OF $2.297 MILLION FOR SEWER FEES, AND THAT WILL BE MR. HALTOM, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES AND ENGINEERING. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN BROWN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND MISS PASTOR, MR. STOKE. AS YOU JUST READ THAT OFF, IT SOUNDS VERY DAUNTING OF A LARGE COST THAT WE OWE. BUT I WANT TO FURTHER EXPLAIN THAT. BACK IN MAY WE CAME ACROSS A DISCREPANCY IN OUR SEWER FLOW METERING DATA. THAT DISCREPANCY LED TO A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF CHARGES THAT WE ACTUALLY PAID TO THE CITY OF HOPEWELL TO ACCEPT OUR SEWER FOR FOR SEWER TREATMENT. WE DID A COMPREHENSIVE AUDIT TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF THIS DISCREPANCY, AND TO ALSO DETERMINE WHAT NECESSARY ACTIONS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TO CORRECT IT. WE DID DETERMINE THAT THREE OF OUR FIVE GRAVITY SEWER FLOW METERS, THESE ARE NOT OUR TYPICAL METERS THAT MOST OF OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE. THEY HAVE WATER METERS VERY SPECIFIC FOR THAT USE. THESE ARE PARTIAL FLOW METERS, THAT GRAVITY FLOWING THROUGH THAT USES RADAR TECHNOLOGY TO READ THE SEWER FLOW. SO I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE USE FOR METERING. BUT THESE SEWER FLOW METERS, WE RECENTLY TRANSITIONED TO USING SCADA, WHICH IS SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION. AMONG OTHER THINGS, WE USE SCADA TO MONITOR OUR SEWER FLOWS, ALSO TO OPERATE OUR WATER SYSTEMS. AND WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY WAS PROBABLY NOT BEST SUITED FOR UTILIZING THAT FOR METER READING. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT THE REMOTE MONITORING LED TO THAT MISREADING OF THE METERS BY A FACTOR OF 100 TIMES ITS TRUE READING. WHAT ESSENTIALLY HAPPENED IS WE HAVE. A SEWER METER HAS A MONITOR OUT THERE TO DISPLAY THE METER READING. THAT READING IS IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NUMBERS. THAT NUMBER IS SUPPOSED TO BE MULTIPLIED BY 100 BEFORE WE SEND IT TO THE CITY OF HOPEWELL. THAT 100 DID NOT GET TRANSLATED INTO THE READING. SO THEREFORE WE SENT THEM A READING THAT WAS NOT MULTIPLIED BY THAT 100. THAT HAPPENED FOR ONE PARTICULAR METER. THAT WAS PROBABLY OUR LARGEST FLOW THAT WE SEND TO THE CITY OF HOPEWELL. THE SECOND ISSUE THAT WE FOUND WAS THERE IS A SCALE THAT WE USE IN SCADA. [00:35:04] IT'S CALLED A 4 TO 20 MILLIAMPS SCHEDULE. ITS ELECTRONIC PULSES SENDS THAT READS THAT FLOW. SO IT'S A CORRELATION OF THAT SCALE THAT REPRESENTS FLOW. IF THAT IS NOT SCALED PERFECTLY, THERE LEADS TO INACCURACIES. IT'S A VERY SMALL AT THE BEGINNING, BUT IT GROWS MUCH LARGER OVER TIME. AND THAT'S WHY THIS HAS OCCURRED NOW SINCE 2021. SO OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE SEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT FAULTY READINGS. IN THIS CASE, IT WAS ACTUALLY IN OUR FAVOR. THE SCALING ACTUALLY WAS REPORTING MORE SEWER FLOW. JUST AGAIN, MULTIPLYING IT BY 100. SO THERE IS STILL A A FAVOR TO HOPEWELL IN THIS CASE. FINALLY, THE THIRD ISSUE THAT WE FOUND IN THAT AUDIT WAS WE DID HAVE A SEWER FLOW METER THAT MALFUNCTIONED, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY READING BACKWARDS. SO WE WERE SENDING FLOWS IN REVERSE. SO WE CORRECTED THAT ISSUE. WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT THAT ISSUE. THIS IS A METER THAT IS LOCATED ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF A CREEK. THE BRIDGE ALLOWS US ACCESS TO THAT HAS FAILED, SO WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO CORRECT THAT RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN GET ACCESS TO THAT METER AND CORRECT IT. IN THE MEANTIME, THE CORRECTION THAT WE'VE DONE IS TO STOP READING THESE REMOTELY USING SCADA. OUR STAFF IS OUTSIDE COLLECTING THE DATA, TAKING PICTURES OF IT, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING ACCURATELY SO THAT THIS DISCREPANCY DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. WE HAVE MET WITH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS DISCREPANCY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT IT HAS OCCURRED. AND WE'VE SHOWED THEM A METHODOLOGY ON HOW WE CAN CORRECT IT. ESSENTIALLY, WE DID HAVE AN ACCURATE READING BACK IN 2021, AND WE CAN TAKE THAT READING FROM TODAY AND GET AN ACTUAL GALLONS OF USAGE THAT WE HAVE SENT THEM. AND WE CAN USE THAT IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE PAID VERSUS WHAT WE STILL OWE. WE'VE MET WITH OUR ATTORNEY. MISS PASTOR AND I HAVE MET WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AND THEN AS WELL WITH THE CITY STAFF, AND THEY'VE ALL AGREED TO THE SETTLEMENT NUMBER THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET TODAY. WE DO HAVE FUNDS, OF COURSE, THAT NUMBER IS APPROACHING $2.3 MILLION, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS IS AVAILABLE AND OUR UTILITY RESERVE FUND TO PAY THOSE BACK CHARGES. AND THIS ALSO WILL BE AN ONGOING ISSUE, AS YOU MAY KNOW, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN BUDGETING BASED ON TRENDS YEAR OVER YEAR, OUR TREND IS NOW GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE. SO OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS GOING TO BE LACKING ABOUT $600,000. AND WE'LL HAVE TO ALSO USE OUR RESERVE FUND TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE. IN FUTURE YEARS, OUR BUDGET WILL REFLECT THAT INCREASE, AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR BUDGET AS NECESSARY, INCLUDING ANY POTENTIAL RATE CHANGES. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR TODAY APPROVAL OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. AGAIN, THE CITY OF HOPEWELL'S ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED THIS AGREEMENT, WHICH IDENTIFIES THE MEASURES THAT WE HAVE TAKEN TO COME UP WITH THIS, A NUMBER THAT WE DO OWE THEM. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL FOR A PAYMENT OF $2,297,273.99 FOR SEWER FEES THAT ARE OWED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. OKAY. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HALTOM? OKAY. IF NOT, BOARD MEMBERS, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE. SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND, BY MR. WEBB THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THIS SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT FOR PAYMENT OF $2,297,273.99 FOR SEWER FEES. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I GOT ONE. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT I'M SAYING ANY DAMN WAY. HAS HOPEWELL DONE ANYTHING SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING? BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE SENT A MORE FLOW THAN WHAT THEY KNEW ABOUT, THEY STILL HAVE TO TREAT IT. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S AN ADDED EXPENSE ON THEIR END. THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT. AND IN REALITY, THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN SOME SAVINGS IN CHEMICALS THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD TO USE. I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CITY STAFF AS TO WHAT I KNOW. YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE MIGHT BE ASKING THE SAME QUESTION. HOW COME SOMEBODY ELSE DIDN'T PICK UP ON THIS EARLIER, TOO? THERE'S BEEN A. JUST TO ANSWER THAT REAL QUICK. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TURNOVER, NOT ONLY IN THE COUNTY BUT ALSO IN THE CITY. ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS OCCURRED. SO THERE'S SOME CITY STAFF THAT ACTUALLY. WHEN WE THOUGHT WE DISCOVERED THIS YEARS AGO, CITY STAFF SAYS, WELL, THIS DOES NOT CONCUR WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN RECENT HISTORY. SO WE CORRECTED BACK TO THAT NUMBER. SO THE TURNOVER IN BOTH LOCALITIES KIND OF ALSO LED TO SOME OF THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? [00:40:04] MR. WEBB. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. COX. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MOTION CARRIED. ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A WASTEWATER TREATMENT OPTION DISCUSSION. AND, MR. HALTOM, I'LL LET YOU TAKE THIS WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M JUST GOING TO DO A QUICK INTRODUCTION. THIS IS A CONTINUING CONVERSATION ABOUT THE OPTIONS FOR OUR WASTEWATER SOLUTION. AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE DID RECEIVE A $10 MILLION VBRSP GRANT AND THE DEADLINE OF MAKING A DECISION ON WHERE TO SEND THIS IS NOVEMBER 14TH. TO DATE WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL AND SUSSEX COUNTY TO DRAFT AGREEMENTS OF WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS WASTEWATER TO THOSE LOCALITIES. BUT FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DAVENPORT COME UP AND PROVIDE YOU A PRESENTATION OF THE FUNDING OPTIONS AND SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT MAY HAVE ON OUR AVAILABILITY OF DEBT SERVICE. SO I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE MR. TED COLE, THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF DAVENPORT, TO ADDRESS THAT. AND THEN I WILL COME BACK UP AND FOLLOW UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. TED COLE WITH DAVENPORT. MY COLLEAGUE BEN WILSON IS WITH ME. WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET. AND THERE WAS ALSO A HARD COPY THAT WAS CIRCULATED RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING. THERE ARE PAGE NUMBERS IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER. I'LL REFERENCE THOSE, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WE'RE WALKING THROUGH THIS, PLEASE STOP AND ASK IS THIS GOING TO CONTROL IT? OKAY. IS THERE A WAY TO GET IT ALL ON THE SCREEN OR. THAT'S IT? YEP. PERFECT. OKAY, GREAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO SET THIS UP IN PIECES. WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH HERE ON PAGE TWO IS QUANTIFYING THE COST OF THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT WE'RE CALLING ONE THE SUSSEX OPTION. THAT WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF A FORCE MAIN PART OF A PROJECT, AS WELL AS A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PROJECT WITH AN INITIAL CAPACITY OF 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, OR MGD, THAT COULD BE EXPANDED IN THE FUTURE BY AN ADDITIONAL 4 MGD. WE'RE JUST LOOKING INITIALLY HERE AT A 2 MGD INVESTMENT. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE TABLE IN COLUMN B, THE CURRENT COST ESTIMATES FOR THAT WOULD BE $40 MILLION FOR THE FORCE MAIN, $40 MILLION FOR THE PLANT, FOR A TOTAL COST OF $80 MILLION ESTIMATED. AND THEN IT'S ALSO BEEN ESTIMATED, AS YOU KEEP GOING DOWN COLUMN B THAT TO RUN THAT PLANT, THERE WOULD BE ABOUT $1.2 MILLION PER YEAR OF OPERATING COSTS. SO WE HAVE AN $80 MILLION INVESTMENT ONCE THE PLANT IS OPERATIONAL AND ACCEPTING FLOW ESTIMATED $1.2 MILLION OPERATING COSTS. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DEBT FUNDING HERE IN A MOMENT. THE OTHER OPTION, HOPEWELL. THERE'S A FORCE MAIN CONSTRUCTION TO THE HOPEWELL PLANT AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS AT HOPEWELL PLANT TO ACCOMMODATE A 2 MGD FLOW. AND IN THE FUTURE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT COULD BE EXPANDED BY ANOTHER 1.6 MGD, BUT AGAIN, STARTING WITH 2 MGD. AND FOR THAT PROJECT UNDER COLUMN C, TOTAL ESTIMATED COST IS $42.15 MILLION UP FRONT COST. BUT YOU'LL NOTE ON LINE SEVEN A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER ANNUAL OPERATING COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OPTION AT ALMOST $8.5 MILLION PER YEAR. SO HOPEWELL IS ABOUT HALF AS EXPENSIVE ON THE UPFRONT CAPITAL COST, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE ANNUALLY, AND THE VERY BOTTOM BULLET FOR THAT REASON, IN DISCUSSING ALL OF THESE OPTIONS WITH STAFF, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON HERE GOING FORWARD IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE SUSSEX OPTION. OKAY. YES, SIR. SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE PROJECT. THIS FIRST BULLET OUTLINES THREE RESOURCES THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE TO HELP FUND THE UP FRONT COST OF THE PROJECT. VIRGINIA BUSINESS READY SITE PROGRAM GRANT OF $10 MILLION, A DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION OF $5 [00:45:01] MILLION, AND THEN THIRDLY, WHAT IS A DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE THAT THE COUNTY HAS ACCUMULATED OVER THE YEARS OF APPROXIMATELY $4.9 MILLION. ALL OF THOSE. IF YOU WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND THOSE FUNDING SOURCES WERE TO REMAIN IN PLAY, ALL OF THOSE COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO OFFSET THE INITIAL CAPITAL EXPENSE OF THE SUSSEX PLANT. FOR NOW, WE'RE NOT ASSUMING ANY OTHER OUTSIDE SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT COULD COME POTENTIALLY RIGHT FROM CONTRIBUTIONS FROM OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, PARTNERS, ARE THERE OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES? ALL OF THOSE THINGS, PERHAPS, BUT WE'VE NOT COUNTED ON ANY OF THOSE. AND WHAT YOU SEE IN THE TABLE AT THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? REMEMBER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SUSSEX OPTION. SO $80 MILLION UPFRONT CAPITAL COST. APPLYING THE $10 MILLION GRANT, THE $5 MILLION DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION ON THE HIGH END OF WHAT THE COUNTY WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH, OR THE COUNTY AND YOUR PARTNERS TO FUND THE PROJECT WOULD BE $65 MILLION, RIGHT? 80 MINUS THE 15 IS $65 MILLION. FURTHER, IF YOU WERE TO CONTRIBUTE YOUR $4.9 MILLION THAT YOU HAVE, THAT'S REAL MONEY IN THE BANK. IT'S NOT IN YOUR CURRENT GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOWING THROUGH OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. IF YOU WERE TO CONTRIBUTE THAT UPFRONT, THE BORROWING COULD BE REDUCED TO, LET'S ROUND OFF. $60.1 MILLION. SO THAT'S THE RANGE OF BORROWINGS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FUND THAT PROGRAM. $60.1 ON THE LOW END, $65 MILLION ON THE HIGH END USING THESE CAPITAL COST ESTIMATES. OKAY? SO NOW WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE PAY FOR THAT. A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THIS CHART, BUT IT'S REALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, IF WE JUST LOOK AT IT FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED TWO FUNDING SOURCES TO HELP REPAY THIS DEBT, RIGHT? I'M NOT TALKING ANY LONGER ABOUT FUNDING THE CAPITAL PROJECT, RIGHT? WE'VE DETERMINED ON THE PRIOR SLIDE, WE EITHER NEED TO BORROW $60.1 MILLION OR $65 MILLION. LET'S ASSUME THAT'S THE CASE. NOW, THE QUESTION IS, WELL, HOW DO WE PAY THAT DEBT BACK? AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TABLE IN THE BOTTOM, WHAT YOU'VE GOT ON THE LEFT IS FISCAL YEAR, FAR LEFT. AND THEN WE HAVE YOUR EXISTING DEBT. DEBT THAT THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY ISSUED AND COMMITTED TO FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THE COUNTY. COLUMN B AND C, THOSE ARE DEBT PAYMENTS IN THE FUTURE. WE KNOW THOSE TO THE PENNY OF WHAT THE COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO PAY FOR DEBT YOU'VE ALREADY ISSUED. THE MIDDLE THERE, COLUMN D, E AND F ARE PLACEHOLDERS. WE HAVEN'T FILLED THAT IN YET. THAT'S WHERE THE NEW DEBT FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROGRAM WOULD BE LAYERED IN IF YOU WERE TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WHAT YOU'VE GOT REALLY IS COLUMN G, WHICH IS THE DEBT SERVICE YOU'VE GOT TO PAY BASED ON THE DEBT THAT'S OUTSTANDING TODAY. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS. IN THE CURRENT YEAR FISCAL 26 IT'S $5.7 MILLION. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OVER TIME IT'S STEPPING DOWN, RIGHT? THOSE DOLLARS ARE STEPPING DOWN. COLUMN H IS IMPORTANT. THAT IS THE REVENUE THAT YOU ALL BUDGETED IN FISCAL 26 TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS. AND YOU'LL NOTE IN FISCAL 26 THE PAYMENT IS FIVE SEVEN. THE REVENUES YOU'VE APPROPRIATED IN YOUR BUDGET ARE FIVE SEVEN. AND FOR THAT REASON, OVER THERE IN COLUMN L, YOU'RE BALANCED, RIGHT? THE PAYMENT YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN A DEBT SERVICE APPROPRIATION IN YOUR BUDGET. COLUMN H, WE'RE ASSUMING CAN BE HELD CONSTANT GOING FORWARD. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PREMISE IN OUR CAPITAL PLANNING APPROACH, WHICH IS YOU'VE GOT FIVE SEVEN IN YOUR BUDGET TODAY OR THIS YEAR FOR FOR DEBT SERVICE. IF YOU KEEP APPROPRIATING THAT SAME LEVEL, AT LEAST THAT LEVEL, THAT BLUE SHADED AREA ARE THE DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER PROJECTS BECAUSE YOUR DEBTS DROPPING OFF. YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR FUNDING FLAT, THE ACTUAL PAYMENTS ARE DROPPING, AND AS A RESULT, YOU HAVE THESE SURPLUSES IN THE BLUE SHADED AREA. THOSE ARE DOLLARS THAT COULD BE USED TO HELP FUND THE NEXT PROJECT AND IN THIS CASE, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT. OKAY. THAT'S THE FIRST SOURCE OF REPAYMENT. THAT'S, IF YOU WILL, IN YOUR BUDGET. [00:50:01] OKAY. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND WHAT WE'RE LAYERING IN NOW IS COLUMN I. $1,000,098 A YEAR. UNDER YOUR CURRENT WATER AND SEWER UTILITY RATE STRUCTURE, RATE AND CHARGES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED. THEY'RE BEING BILLED. AND THIS IS PART OF PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. YOUR RATE STRUCTURE IS SET UP TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A REPAYMENT OF APPROXIMATELY $30 MILLION OF DEBT OVER A 30 YEAR TERM, RIGHT? OVER THE YEARS IDENTIFYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO SET OUR RATE STRUCTURE SUCH THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY COVERING OUR EXISTING COSTS, BUT WE WANT TO BE POSITIONED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD NEW UTILITY DEBT IN THE FUTURE. AND YOUR CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE DOES THAT TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $30 MILLION. WE KNOW THAT APPROXIMATELY $11 MILLION OF THAT 30 IS GOING TO BE NEEDED FOR UTILITY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS THAT ARE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM THIS WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, SORT OF, IF YOU WILL, COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO INVEST IN THE UTILITY SYSTEM. SO IF THE RATE STRUCTURE WILL SUPPORT 30, BUT 11 NEEDS TO GO TO OTHER PROJECTS, IT'S LEAVING APPROXIMATELY $19 MILLION THAT COULD BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THIS WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. RIGHT? THAT'S BAKED INTO YOUR BUDGET. SO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU HERE IS COLUMN H IS THAT CONSTANT APPROPRIATION OF $5.7 MILLION. WE PULL IN $1,000,098 PER YEAR THAT THE RATE STRUCTURE COULD SUPPORT. AND THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF YOUR BUDGETING, YOUR OVERALL BUDGETING THAT COULD BE USED TO OFFSET THIS INVESTMENT IN A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT GOT THESE TWO SOURCES. WE'VE GOT THESE SURPLUSES THAT WILL EVOLVE BECAUSE YOUR FLAT FUNDING DEBT EVERY YEAR. AND IN REALITY YOUR PAYMENTS ARE STEPPING DOWN. SO THESE ARE REAL DOLLARS THAT COULD BE RECOGNIZED ANNUALLY. AND THEN SECONDLY WE'VE GOT ABOUT A MILLION ONE A YEAR THAT COULD BE SUPPORTED FROM YOUR CURRENT WATER AND SEWER RATE STRUCTURE, NOT REQUIRING A RATE INCREASE TO DO THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? YEAH, I GOT ONE. YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. OUT OF THAT MILLION 98. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THIS MIGHT BE A FRANK QUESTION. IF WE'VE GOT ANOTHER $600,000 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPEND. THAT WAS UNEXPECTED WITHOUT RAISING THE RATE STRUCTURE, WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? WITHOUT RAISING THE RATE STRUCTURE? WOULD IT COME OUT OF THAT MILLION? WELL, LET ME FIRST START BY SAYING THAT THIS ONE POINT, ROUGHLY $1.1 MILLION, WAS A PLANNED BORROWING. CORRECT. SO WE WERE GOING TO. WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT BAKED IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO BORROW THAT MONEY. THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE. IT'S ALREADY BAKED INTO OUR RATES TODAY. SO TO CATCH UP WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO CATCH UP WITH THAT $600 MILLION. CORRECT. $600,000. EXCUSE ME. SO ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO DO, IF WE WANT TO DO THIS PROJECT AND DO OTHER AND ADDRESS THAT BUDGET ISSUE, WE WOULD HAVE TO POTENTIALLY ADDRESS THE RATES OR CUT OUT OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE MAY HAVE IDENTIFIED, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A CAPITAL BUDGET FOR CAPITAL MAINTENANCE, ANNUAL MAINTENANCE THAT WE COULD PULL THAT FROM, BUT WE'D HAVE TO DEFER THAT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE TO DO SO. THAT'S NOT SMART. THAT'S NOT SMART. YEAH. NO, WE CAN'T DEFER MAINTENANCE ANYMORE THAN WE ALREADY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, BOARD WOULD HAVE TO VOTE FOR A RATE CHANGE TO BE ABLE TO ENCAPSULATE THE $600,000 THAT WAS UNEXPECTED. POTENTIALLY, UNLESS WE HAVE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES COMING IN, AND WE HAVE FOUND SOME OTHER ACCOUNTS WHERE WE WERE NOT CHARGING ENOUGH. OKAY, I CAN MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE, BUT IT WON'T BE AS LARGE OF AN IMPACT AS WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON JUST ONE ISSUE. WELL, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, 600,000 OUT OF 1.1. THAT'S A BIG, BIG NUMBER. AND, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS OUR BORROWING POWER, I'M SURE THAT WOULD AFFECT IT IF WE HAD TO PULL FROM THAT ACCOUNT. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'VE RUN FIVE SCENARIOS OR CASES HERE. THE FIRST IS GOING TO BE BORROWING THAT LESSER AMOUNT FOR SUSSEX, THE $60.1 MILLION. REMEMBER THAT ASSUMES YOU START WITH 80. YOU CONTRIBUTE THE 10 FROM THE GRANT, THE 5 FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THE 4.9 FROM [00:55:05] YOUR DEBT FUND. SO YOU'RE BORROWING THE LEAST AMOUNT $60.1 MILLION. THE SECOND CASE ASSUMES YOU START WITH THE 80 AND COST. YOU CONTRIBUTE THE GRANT AND THE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION. BUT YOU HOLD ON TO THAT $4.9 MILLION. YOU DON'T SPEND IT UPFRONT, YOU HOLD ON TO IT BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO YOU TO HELP PAY FOR DEBT SERVICE FOR A FEW YEARS. SO WE'RE BORROWING A LITTLE MORE. WE'RE BORROWING $65 MILLION, BUT WE HAVEN'T SPENT THAT $4.9. AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, WE'RE GOING RIGHT INTO A DEBT THAT WE'RE ASSUMING WOULD BE A 30 YEAR DEBT. THAT'S ABOUT AS LONG AS YOU WOULD WANT TO FINANCE A PROJECT LIKE THIS. WE'RE USING A 5% INTEREST RATE, WHICH IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN CURRENT MARKET. AND WE'RE ASSUMING THAT YOU WOULD BE IN A. WE WOULD BORROW THAT MONEY IN THE FALL OF 26. YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAID TODAY, MOVE FORWARD, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE READY TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S ABOUT AS QUICK OF A BORROWING AS WE WOULD EXPECT YOU WOULD DO. SO IT'S JUST FOR PRESENTATION PURPOSES. SO CASE ONE AND CASE TWO. 60 MILLION VERSUS 65. AND WE'RE GOING RIGHT INTO PAYING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST EVERY YEAR LIKE A MORTGAGE. CASE THREE. WE TOOK CASE TWO AND WE SAID OKAY, WELL WHAT IF WE STILL DID 30 YEAR DEBT, BUT WE DID INTEREST ONLY FOR SIX YEARS? WE KIND OF BACKED INTO THIS CASE AS GIVING YOU PERSPECTIVE. IT'S STILL A 30 YEAR DEBT, BUT THE FIRST SIX YEARS YOU'RE NOT PAYING ANY PRINCIPAL BACK, YOU'RE JUST PAYING INTEREST. AND THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS WE WANTED TO MINIMIZE THE PAYMENT ON THIS DEBT UNTIL SOME OF YOUR OTHER DEBT PAID OFF, NOT SUGGESTING THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THAT INTEREST ONLY PERIOD WOULD DO. AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT IN A MOMENT IN TERMS OF MAKING THIS PERHAPS A BIT MORE AFFORDABLE. THAT STRUCTURE, DELAYING PRINCIPLE FOR SIX YEARS VERSUS GOING RIGHT INTO PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS COMES AT A COST, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT PAYING THE DEBT BACK AS QUICKLY. THERE'S ADDED INTEREST EXPENSE WITHOUT QUESTION, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE SOME PERSPECTIVE. I THINK THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE CASH FLOWS CHANGE. WE GET INTO CASE FOUR. AND NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING THE $1.2 MILLION A YEAR OF OPERATING COSTS, RIGHT? THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. THE FIRST THREE CASES DON'T ASSUME THE OPERATING COST. IT'S JUST THE CAPITAL. HOW DO WE REPAY THAT DEBT? CASE FOUR, WE PULL IN THE OPERATING COSTS. SO IT'S A HIGHER BAR, RIGHT? WE GOT MORE TO PAY BACK. AND THEN CASE FIVE IS THE PRIOR, CASE FOUR, CAPITAL PLUS OPERATING. AND THEN WE'RE SOLVING FOR WHAT KIND OF NEW UTILITY REVENUES WOULD YOU NEED TO BREAK EVEN. OKAY? THIS WILL MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE HERE ON THAT SLIDE. AND I'M SKIPPING OVER PAGE SEVEN. IT'S JUST SHOWING YOU WHAT THE NEW DEBT PROFILE OF THE COUNTY WOULD LOOK LIKE. I'M SKIPPING OVER IT. NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IMPORTANT. IT CLEARLY HAS A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON YOUR DEBT PROFILE. THE DARK GREEN IS YOUR CURRENT DEBT PROFILE. THE LIGHT GREEN WOULD BE THE NEW DEBT UNDER THE SCENARIOS WE'VE RUN. SO IT SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGES THE OUTLOOK OF THE COUNTY'S DEBT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE BORROWING $60 TO $65 MILLION. BUT I THINK REALLY THE DISCUSSION POINT IS ON PAGE EIGHT AND THIS IS THE. EXCUSE ME, PAGE SEVEN. I DON'T KNOW, IT SAYS PAGE EIGHT, BUT IT SHOULD BE PAGE SEVEN, RIGHT? PAGE EIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. ACROSS THE TOP, CASES ONE THROUGH FIVE. CASE ONE KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE. $80 MILLION PROJECT CONTRIBUTING THE 10 AND THE 5 FOR $15 MILLION. WE´RE ALSO CONTRIBUTING THE 49. LINE SEVEN LEAVES US WITH A BORROWING OF JUST OVER $60 MILLION. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN OUR DEBT MODEL TO PAY THAT BACK, AND WE'VE MEASURED THE SHORTFALL OR THE IMPACT A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS. MEANING HOW DO WE. WHAT DO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH TO MAKE THIS WORK? AND YOU CAN SEE THERE UNDER THE DOLLARS BEGINNING IN FISCAL 28, YOU WOULD NEED ANOTHER $1.9 MILLION PULLED IN TO THE DEBT MODEL AS NEW REVENUE. THE NEXT YEAR, A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION. [01:00:01] THE FOLLOWING, 1,000,009, 1,000,009 1,000,006. OVER 5 OR 6 YEARS, YOU WOULD NEED TO SUPPLEMENT YOUR CURRENT DEBT BUDGET BY A LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION TO CASH FLOW THAT NEW DEBT. ALTERNATIVELY, UNDER THE EQUIVALENT COLUMN, IT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF PENNIES ON THE TAX RATE. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO MEASURE THE AFFORDABILITY OF THIS. THEY'RE BOTH SOLVING FOR THE SAME THING. HOW MANY DOLLARS DO WE NEED TO BALANCE THIS NEW BUDGET WITH THIS DEBT? AND WE'RE SHOWING IT TO YOU EITHER IN RAW DOLLARS BY YEAR OR EQUIVALENT, PENNIES ON THE TAX RATE. IT'S JUST TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT. AND SO YOU CAN SEE DOWN THERE ON LINE 24 TO MAKE THAT CASE WORK, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION OVER 5 OR 6 YEARS, THE EQUIVALENT OF FOUR AND A HALF PENNIES BETWEEN 28 AND 29 THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO PUT IN PLACE, OR ON LINE 25, A ONE TIME ADJUSTMENT OF NEW TAX REVENUE EQUAL TO THREE AND A HALF PENNIES. OKAY? THAT'S THE FIRST CASE. AND WE SPENT THE 49 UP FRONT TO BORROW LESS. CASE TWO, $80 MILLION. WE SPEND THE 15, THE 10 AND THE 5. BUT WE'RE NOT SPENDING THE 49 UP FRONT. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THAT TO TRY TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE SHORTFALLS. AND AS A RESULT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING UNDER THE DOLLARS IS, THE DOLLARS NEEDED TO HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT LATER. THAT'S BECAUSE WE SAVE THAT 49 AND WE'RE USING IT FOR A FEW YEARS. SO THEY HAPPEN A LITTLE LATER AND THEY'RE A LITTLE LESS. THERE'S $7.4 MILLION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE FOUND TO BALANCE THIS NEW DEBT BUDGET. THE EQUIVALENT WOULD BE ABOUT 4.6 PENNIES. BUT AGAIN, THESE AREN'T NEEDED TECHNICALLY UNTIL 2030 THROUGH 2033. LINE 25, ANOTHER WAY TO MEASURE IT WOULD BE TWO AND A QUARTER PENNIES WORTH OF NEW REVENUE STARTING IN THE NEXT BUDGET 27. SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING LOOKING AT ONE AND TWO. IT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THERE IS DO YOU SPEND THE 4.9 UP FRONT OR DO YOU BORROW A LITTLE MORE AND SAVE THE 4.9 AND USE IT TO SUPPLEMENT YOUR BUDGET, AND YOU'LL SEE THE IMPACTS ARE DIFFERENT. NOT SPENDING THAT 4.9 UPFRONT REDUCES THE IMPACT, PUSHES IT OUT A FEW YEARS. BUT ULTIMATELY THAT WILL BE A DECISION THAT IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU WOULD HAVE TIME TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION ON THAT QUESTION. GO TO CASE THREE. NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING CASE TWO. REMEMBER, CASE TWO IS WE SPENT THE. WE'RE HOLDING ON TO THE 49. WE'RE NOT SPENDING IT UPFRONT. SO IT'S THE SAME $65 MILLION BORROWING ON LINE SEVEN. BUT WE'VE DONE THIS INTEREST ONLY PERIOD FOR SIX YEARS. AGAIN, TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE CASH FLOW. THE RESULTS ON A CASH FLOW BASIS, THE DOLLARS NEEDED ARE FOUR YEARS UNDER $1 MILLION PER YEAR. IN TOTAL, IT'S ABOUT $1.8 MILLION THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH BETWEEN FISCAL YEARS 31 AND 34 TO SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET, ABOUT $1.8 MILLION, OR JUST UNDER TWO PENNIES WORTH OF REVENUE. IF YOU WERE TO ADDRESS IT UP FRONT AND DEAL WITH IT IN THE 27 BUDGET, IT WOULD BE ABOUT A HALF A PENNY WORTH OF NEW REVENUE NEEDED EVERY YEAR GOING FORWARD. SO THAT SIX YEARS OF INTEREST ONLY, AS I SAID, IT CERTAINLY COMES AT A COST, RIGHT? THERE'S ADDITIONAL INTEREST EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUT THE FLIP SIDE IS IT DOES. BECAUSE IT MINIMIZES YOUR PAYMENTS IN THE EARLY YEARS AND GIVES SOME OF THAT OTHER EXISTING DEBT TIME TO FALL OFF, IT DOES MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OVER THIS FIRST EIGHT YEARS. CASE FOUR. CASE THREE. AND NOW WHAT YOU SEE ON LINE 11 IS WE ADDED INTO THE MIX THE OPERATING EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS NEW PLANT. $1,200,000 A YEAR AND YOU'LL SEE THE DOLLARS IN THE TAX EQUIVALENT IMPACT GO BACK UP, RIGHT? NOW WE'RE NOT ONLY COVERING DEBT SERVICE, BUT WE GOT TO COVER $1,200,000 A YEAR ONCE THIS PLAN IS OPEN AND OPERATING, AND WE'RE BACK TO SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SUPPLEMENTING YOUR BUDGET OVER FIVE PENNIES WORTH OF REVENUE NEEDED IN 29 OR 30, AND A ONE TIME ADJUSTMENT TO THE TAX RATE AS AN ALTERNATIVE OF ABOUT 2.7 PENNIES. OKAY? AND THEN THE VERY LAST CASE, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S NO DOLLARS OR EQUIVALENT, MEANING WE HAVE SOLVED FOR LINE [01:05:02] 12. WE'RE BORROWING $65 MILLION. WE'VE GOT $1,200,000 A YEAR OF OPERATING EXPENSES. AND WE SOLVE FOR LINE 12, WHICH WAS IF YOU CAN GENERATE $1,500,000 A YEAR IN NEW USER FEE REVENUE FROM THIS INVESTMENT IN UTILITIES, THIS COULD BE BALANCED, RIGHT? SO IT'S TRYING TO JUST GIVE YOU ANOTHER DATA POINT OF HOW WOULD THIS WORK IF WE. AS OPPOSED TO SAYING WE GOT TO COME UP WITH ALL OF THESE DOLLARS AND NOT HAVE ANY NEW USER FEES, WE'VE JUST MEASURED IT $1,500,000 A YEAR BEGINNING IN FISCAL 28, FROM NEW USERS ON THE SYSTEM WOULD BALANCE THIS OUT. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THOSE WOULD MATERIALIZE, RIGHT? HOW MUCH, WHEN. BUT THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL PERSPECTIVE OF THE DOLLARS NEEDED FROM USERS THAT WOULD OFFSET ALL OF THE DEBT AND THE OPERATING EXPENSES. SO I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO TALK THROUGH AND PERHAPS SOME DECISIONS TO MAKE THIS EVENING. WE'VE LISTED GENERICALLY JUST SOME OTHER TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION. SOME OF THESE MIGHT BE PREMATURE. YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO HOW WOULD YOU PROCURE THIS, THE TIMING, THE SCHEDULE, FUTURE EXPANSIONS, RIGHT? BECAUSE REMEMBER, ALL WE'VE MODELED HERE IS THE INITIAL TWO MGD. WE HAVE NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHAT A FUTURE EXPANSION MIGHT BE IF YOU WENT FROM 2 TO 4 OR 4 TO 6. SO IT'S JUST THE TWO MGD. WE HAVE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR ANY OTHER PROJECTS, SCHOOLS, COUNTY OR OTHERWISE. ALL WE'VE RUN THROUGH THE MODEL IS A SUSSEX $80 MILLION WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PROJECT. THERE'S BEEN SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDIES DONE, FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF BRINGING THIS UTILITY SERVICE ONLINE. WHAT KIND OF DOLLARS COULD BE RECOGNIZED FROM THAT, WHETHER IT'S TAX REVENUE OR OTHERWISE. WE'VE NOT TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT. AND THEN THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT WAYS THAT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE COULD LOOK AT TRYING TO MAKE DEBT MORE AFFORDABLE, OR AT LEAST CASH FLOW A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITHIN THE DEBT MODEL. AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE ARE A BIT PREMATURE TO START DIGGING INTO BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO START WITH SOME PRETTY BASIC DECISIONS FIRST. UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO FRANK. WE'RE HERE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS WE CAN HELP WITH. BEFORE I SIT DOWN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO COVER AGAIN OR ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE MR. HALTOM COMES BACK UP? LOOKING TO MY LEFT. NO. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. SO JUST TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD TO DATE AND KIND OF REVIEW SOME OF THE MATERIAL EVEN HAD TODAY. WE DO HAVE THIS QUICK PRESENTATION TO KIND OF DESCRIBE WHAT WE JUST LOOKED AT. SOME OF THIS INFORMATION WAS DIRECTLY FROM THE SLIDES THAT YOU JUST SAW FROM DAVENPORT. BUT AGAIN, WE DID MEET WITH BOTH HOPEWELL AND SUSSEX COUNTY TO TRY TO WORK OUT DRAFT AGREEMENTS AND DETERMINE WHAT THOSE AGREEMENTS MAY LOOK LIKE. WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE AGREEMENT LANGUAGE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT THESE COST ESTIMATES DO LOOK LIKE AND KIND OF REITERATE A FEW THINGS. FIRST OFF, I'M GOING TO START WITH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL ON YOUR LEFT. BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS ARE LOOKING AT ADDING TWO MGD OF CAPACITY TO THE COUNTY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND TWO MGD TO THE CITY OF HOPEWELL WHAT WE'VE ESTIMATED IS THAT FORCEMAIN WOULD COST US ABOUT $32 MILLION. THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PLANT THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE US TO IMPLEMENT THAT ARE ESTIMATED AT $10 MILLION. WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE ESTIMATE OF THAT COST. THAT IS A BALLPARK NUMBER THAT WE FEEL WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. THE PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE MAY NEED TO MAKE, BUT THOSE ARE INSIGNIFICANT COMPARED TO THE REST OF THOSE COSTS. THE OPERATING COSTS IS WHAT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE. WE ALREADY PAY. OUR CURRENT RATES ARE $6 AND 17 ROUGHLY, WHEN YOU INCLUDE. THERE'S A FIXED MINIMUM CHARGE OF $3,000. SO WHEN YOU ADD THAT CHARGE ONTO OUR ACTUAL RATE PER 1000 GALLONS, YOU END UP WITH ROUGHLY $6.17 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. SO YOU TRY TO USE THAT NUMBER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE PAYING IN FUTURE YEARS. THE CITY OF HOPEWELL, WITH THE CURRENT PROBLEMS THEY'RE HAVING, HAVE ALREADY ANNOUNCED THEY'RE LIKELY TO DO A RATE INCREASE ROUGHLY AROUND 40%. [01:10:01] SO WE'VE INCREASED THAT RATE THAT YOU SEE THERE FROM 619, ADDING THAT 40% TO $8.64 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. WHEN YOU FIGURE IN TO MGD BASED ON FIRST OFF, WE HAVE A CURRENT AGREEMENT OF 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING THEM ESSENTIALLY FOR A TOTAL OF 4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS $8 MILLION AND 450 REPRESENTS, IS SENDING THEM 4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THAT IS AN ANNUAL COST. THAT IS AN INCREASE OF $6.3 MILLION TO THE ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE UTILITIES. OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS AROUND 8 TO $9 MILLION. SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO OUR BUDGET THAT WE'D HAVE TO RECAPTURE. THAT IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND. SO I KNOW THE ANALYSIS THAT MR. DAVENPORT, OR EXCUSE ME, MR. COLE JUST GAVE US, WERE SHOWING FOR THE SUSSEX OPTION, $1.2 MILLION IN THAT COST THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BORROW. THE REASON WHY THAT'S THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT IS FOR FUTURE CUSTOMERS. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE CUSTOMERS. THAT COST HAS TO BE COVERED EACH YEAR BECAUSE THERE'S AN ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSE FOR THAT PLANT, REGARDLESS OF FLOW COMING IN. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT THAT NUMBER WORKED IN UNTIL WE START GENERATING THOSE REVENUES. SAME ISSUE IS GOING TO BE, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT WE HAVE TO WORK IN SOMEHOW THAT $8.45 MILLION. EVEN THOUGH THAT'S GOING TO BE REVENUE COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE REVENUES ARE GOING TO NOT CATCH UP WITH THE COST. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEFICIT EACH YEAR BASED ON CURRENT RATES. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE OUR RATES JUST TO MATCH IT. WHERE IN THE FUTURE WITH THE SUSSEX COUNTY OPTION THAT 1.2 OF OPERATING COST IS GOING TO HOLD STEADY REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH FLOW WE'RE USING. SO EVEN IF WE GET MORE FLOW IN, IT'S NOT GOING TO COST US MUCH MORE. YOU MAY HAVE AN INCREASED COST FOR ELECTRICITY, INCREASED COST FOR CHEMICALS, BUT YOUR BUDGET ALREADY INCLUDES ALL THE PERSONNEL THAT YOU HAVE THAT NEEDS TO OPERATE THAT PLANT. SO YOUR INCREASE MAY NOT GO. YOUR INCREASE IN YOUR OPERATING COSTS WILL NOT GO UP SUBSTANTIALLY. IN FACT, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS NOW THE REVENUES WILL OUTPACE THE OPERATING COSTS THAT CAN EVENTUALLY BE USED TO PAY OFF SOME OF THE CAPITAL DEBT THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S NOT SHOWN IN THE ANALYSIS THAT MR. COLE PROVIDED, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A REALITY. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, IF ONCE WE START GETTING 2 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF USAGE DOWN AT THE SUSSEX PLANT, WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH REVENUES TO START PAYING OFF SOME OF THAT DEBT AND STOP BEING A DRAIN ON THE TAX BURDEN. LOOKING AT THE SUSSEX OPTION AGAIN, IT'S A TWO MGD PLANT. YES, THE OPERATING COSTS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN THE HOPEWELL COSTS. BUT IT DOES ALLOW US TO EXPAND IN THE FUTURE. WHERE THAT COST TO EXPAND THE FUTURE CAN BE BASED ON DEVELOPMENT. AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPERS TO HELP PAY THAT COST. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST A COUNTY EFFORT, SO ANYTHING THAT COMES IN THAT HAS THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL WASTEWATER FLOWS WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THAT COST. IT SHOWS ROUGHLY A $3.29 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. THAT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF A RATE. THAT'S NOT EXACTLY A RATE. BUT IF WE WERE TO START CHARGING FOLKS FOR JUST THAT USAGE, THAT'S WHAT THAT RATE WOULD EQUATE TO. SO I DON'T WANT TO STATE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE RATE. THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE RATE. WE'LL BE CHARGING RATES TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS EQUALLY. SO EVEN RIGHT NOW OUR CURRENT RATE IS OVER $9 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. IT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL COST, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE CHARGING TO OUR CUSTOMERS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN REVENUES THAT WE WOULD BE GAINING BECAUSE WE CHARGE CHARGED OVER $9 PER 1000 GALLONS. AGAIN THERE ARE SOME MAINTENANCE COSTS THAT WE WOULD AVOID WITH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL. AND THEN WE WILL BE USING MORE TRADITIONAL TYPE OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHERE HOPEWELL HAS A VERY UNIQUE PLANT. IT IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, AND THERE'S SOME COMPONENTS OF THAT TYPE OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT ARE NOT VERY FAMILIAR TO A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY. IT TAKES A UNIQUE PERSON TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THAT PLANT. IT'S NOT EASILY DONE. SO THIS WILL BE A MORE TRADITIONAL, PROBABLY A CONVENTIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THE INDUSTRY THAT OPERATES A PLANT IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH. SO IT WOULD REDUCE OUR RISK OF ANY ISSUES HAPPENING THAT MAY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT. AS MR. COLE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS SLIDE, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL QUICK. [01:15:03] AS HE MENTIONED, THIS BLUE LINE IS WHAT BECOMES AVAILABLE AT CERTAIN TIMES DURING CERTAIN YEARS. SO THAT'S THE FUNDING THAT WE WILL HAVE AVAILABLE BASED ON THE DEBT SERVICE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED. AND THEN THE NUMBER TWO COLUMN THERE SHOWS THE AVAILABLE BASED ON THAT $19 MILLION THAT THE COUNTY IS ALREADY PLANNING ON BORROWING. IT'S A $30 MILLION BORROWING. AND WE'RE USING $19 MILLION OF THAT BORROWING FOR THIS PROJECT. THE OTHER 11 MILLION, THIS PROGRAM FOR THE RIVER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. BUT OVER TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CASES THAT HE JUST WENT OVER AGAIN, WE WOULD BE BORROWING THE $65 MILLION, NOT THE 60. AND USING THAT DEBT SERVICE TO PAY OFF A PORTION OF THAT. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE IMPACTS ARE. I JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT TO YOU IN THIS SLIDE, JUST IN CASE WE WANT TO REFER BACK TO THAT HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. BUT FINALLY, THE SUMMARY OF THE DRAFT AGREEMENTS. AND SPEAKING WITH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL OBVIOUSLY THERE IS TWO MGD AVAILABLE THEY SAY IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, THEY ARE DESIRING THAT THE COUNTY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT TO BECOME A BOARD MEMBERS OR A COUNCIL MEMBER OF THAT PLANT. MEANING THAT THERE'S ALREADY A COMMISSION THAT INVOLVES THE INDUSTRIES. THEY WOULD EXPECT US TO BECOME A PART OF THAT COMMISSION AND THEN ALSO BECOME PART OF THE. ESSENTIALLY WITH ANY PARTNERSHIP, YOU BECOME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAYMENTS OF THE UPGRADES AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. SO WE WILL BE TAKING ON GREATER RISK BY BECOMING A PARTNER OF THAT PLANT. SO THAT IS WHERE THAT STANDS RIGHT NOW. SUSSEX, IT DOES ALLOW US TO EXPAND FROM 2 TO 6 MGD IN THE FUTURE. EXCUSE ME. IN THE FUTURE. SUSSEX WILL PROVIDE US A SITE FOR THE PLANT AT NO COST TO US. WE ARE EXPECTED TO DESIGN THE PLANT A NO COST TO SUSSEX, AND IT WILL INCLUDE SOME COMPONENTS THAT ALLOW FOR THE REUSE OF THE WASTEWATER INSTEAD OF DISCHARGING IT INTO THE SWAMP AND ALONG THE BLACKWATER RIVER THERE. BLACKWATER SWAMP. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEND THAT TO SOME OF THE INDUSTRIES THAT COULD USE REUSED WATER OR RECLAIMED WATER. WE HAVE REQUESTED FROM SUSSEX COUNTY FOR THEM TO USE THEIR POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN, IF NECESSARY, AS A LAST RESORT FOR EASEMENT ACQUISITION. AND THIS, AGAIN, TYPICALLY IS A MEASURE THAT WE HAVE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY IS GOUGING US ON WHAT WE ARE OFFERING FOR THOSE EASEMENTS. WE ARE NOT ACQUIRING ANY LAND. WE DON'T EXPECT TO TAKE ANY SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR 15 TO 20 FOOT EASEMENTS AS NECESSARY, SHOULD WE NOT BE ABLE TO FIT THE UTILITY WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE GOAL IS TO PLACE THE ENTIRE UTILITY WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO GET THERE. THE AGREEMENT ALSO ALLOWS US 36 MONTHS. AGAIN, THIS IS A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT SETS OUT THE INITIAL TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. WE WILL STILL ALLOW US OURSELVES, ALLOW OURSELVES BOTH SUSSEX AND PRINCE GEORGE 36 MONTHS TO REACH A FINAL AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT PARTNERSHIP LOOKS LIKE. IS IT GOING TO BE AN AUTHORITY BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTIES? IS GOING TO BE PRINCE GEORGE OWNED THE PLANT AND SUSSEX IS A CUSTOMER? THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH. SO THAT ALSO WOULD WORK THROUGH THE FUNDING AND THE REVENUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED TO FUND THAT PLANT. WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR WHAT. AND THEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL TALK ABOUT CAPACITY ALLOCATIONS. SHOULD SUSSEX NEED MORE, HOW DO THEY PAY FOR THAT AND HOW DOES THE COUNTY. IF WE'RE GOING TO UPFRONT ALL THE COSTS, HOW DOES THE COUNTY GET REIMBURSED FOR ANY OF THOSE COSTS? WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE AREAS AND THE DEVELOPMENT SURCHARGES. WE WERE HOPING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DEFINED AREA NOT JUST WITHIN PRINCE GEORGE, BUT ALSO IN SUSSEX OF WHO SHOULD HAVE TO USE THAT PLANT SHOULD DEVELOPMENT OCCUR IN THAT AREA. SO THOSE CHARGES WOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THAT SERVICE AREA. SO EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF CHARGE DO WE NEED TO CHARGE IN THE FUTURE? SO THAT'S A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE AGREEMENTS. BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER OF THE TWO AGREEMENTS? NO. YOU STILL GOT SOME MORE TO SHOW, RIGHT? WELL, THE NEXT ONE IS WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION. IF BASED ON THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GIVEN, MR. JOBS IS AVAILABLE TO COME UP IF YOU MAKE A SELECTION. THERE IS AN ACTION THAT WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE REGARDING THE VBRSP GRANT THAT REQUIRES US TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH AN END USER, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE SILVERMAN GROUP. HE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THAT AFTER YOU'VE MADE A PROVIDE DIRECTION ON WHICH OPTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME ACTION FROM THIS BOARD BETWEEN THE TWO CHOICES? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. BETWEEN HOPEWELL AND SUSSEX. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM MR. HALTOM? YES, SIR. [01:20:01] MR. COX. THE $10 MILLION GRANT. ALL RIGHT, WE APPLY FOR IT, WE GET IT. AND LET'S SAY SOMETHING HAPPENS DOWN THE ROAD AND THE PLAN IS SCRAPPED. WE PAY IT BACK WITH INTEREST, OR WE JUST PAY IT BACK? I'M NOT SURE IF MR. COLE HAS THAT ANSWER. SO, MR. COX, IT'S A REIMBURSABLE GRANT. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE FUNDS ARE EXPENDED, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THAT PAID BACK TO THE STATE. WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT BACK TO THE STATE. BUT IT'S REIMBURSABLE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. COX? NO. OKAY. MR. WEBB. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR CHART, FRANK. FRANK'S BROKE IT DOWN FOR WHAT IT COSTS. LONG TERM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE GOT GOING ON. OKAY, MR. PUGH, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR COMMENTS? NOT REALLY A QUESTION, BUT JUST WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE A TOUGH DISCUSSION UP HERE, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL THAT IT'S DIRECTED TOWARDS THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS. BUT I HAVE A FEELING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND IT'S NOT DIRECTED AT ANYBODY. I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOU AT THIS TIME. SO I GUESS IT'S THE TOUGH DISCUSSION FOR US, YOU KNOW. SO WHO WANTS TO START? I MEAN, I'LL START. OKAY. GO AHEAD, SIR. I MEAN, I'VE ASKED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES AND I'VE GOT NO ANSWER REALLY TO IT, BUT THERE IS NO PARALLEL PATH TO DO THIS AND TAKE CARE OF OUR NEEDS IN ACCOUNTING. WE HAVE NEEDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE 75 STUDENTS OVER THERE ARE RIGHT NOW OVER THE CAPACITY. WE HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT SITS OVER NEXT DOOR TO US THAT BY THE TIME WE GET AROUND TO REPLACING, IT WILL BE OVER 70 YEARS OLD. IT'S A CAMPUS STYLE SCHOOL. WE GOT A FIRE STATION ON COMPANY SIX OVER ON CRATER ROAD. WE HAVE OUR PAID STAFF LIVING IN A MODULAR UNIT OUT BACK. THEY DON'T EVEN STAY IN THE BUILDING WHERE THE FIRE TRUCKS ARE AT. SO UNTIL WE SEE A WAY TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE'VE GOT IN THIS COUNTY, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. SO. OKAY, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE, SIR? OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T CUTTING YOU OFF. YES, SIR. I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL KNOW. IS YOUR MIC ON? I THINK WE ALL KNOW TO GROW THE BUSINESS PARK, WE NEED WASTEWATER. YOU KNOW, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MR. COX. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SO MANY OTHER PROJECTS TO DO, AND I KNOW WE KICKED THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD. I THINK MR. WEBB SAID A FEW MEETINGS AGO THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, WHAT, 12 YEARS? MR. WEBB? 11. 11? YOU KNOW, I ALMOST I HATE TO LOSE $10 MILLION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY. OR 15, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE TAKE A STEP BACK FROM THIS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN UNDER A TIME RESTRAINT AND WE LOOK THROUGH IT THROUGH A DIFFERENT EYEGLASS TO GO, ALL RIGHT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PLAN FOR THIS? WHETHER WE START PUTTING, YOU KNOW, A HALF 1 MILLION OR $1 MILLION AWAY AND IT'S DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE WASTEWATER, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE TWO CENT ON THAT FOR APPARATUS REPLACEMENT. MAYBE WE TAKE A PENNY TO START ADDRESSING WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND LET THAT BUILD UP OVER THE FIVE, TEN YEAR TIME TO THEN ADDRESS EITHER A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR ANOTHER OPTION, AND MAYBE GRANTS WOULD COME ALONG BY THEN. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT ON IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. MR. WEBB, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? OF COURSE I DO. WE'VE KICKED THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD WAY TOO LONG. WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD, WE WERE WAY BEHIND ON WATER AND WASTEWATER. WE KEPT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. HERE'S THE RUB. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY, AND I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES, WHAT IS THE PLAN TO PAY FOR ALL THESE OTHER THINGS I KNOW WE NEED? I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT. WE DON'T NEED. THERE'S A LOT OF NICE TO HAVE OUT THERE, TOO, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF CITIZENS WOULD APPRECIATE. OKAY? THE QUANDARY I GOT IS WE'VE LOST BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER TO DEVELOP THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. THE PHARMACEUTICAL PLANT LEFT. WE LOST THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FEEL IN TWO YEARS WE WERE HEADING IN THE DIRECTIONS THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE WASTEWATER, WHICH THEY USE A LOT. AND THAT WAS $800 MILLION. YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE PRESENTATIONS FROM. EVERYBODY'S GOTTEN UP HERE FROM BGR AND EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND THE COUNTRY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF INDUSTRY TO HELP OFFSET AND KEEP THE TAXES OFF OF YOUR ROOFTOPS, [01:25:08] IT'S ALL GOING TO LAND ON THE ROOFTOPS. AND IF I'M CORRECT, MR. HOLCOMB, WE DON'T HARDLY HAVE ENOUGH FOR WAREHOUSING IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK RIGHT NOW. THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE ROUGHLY 40,000 GALLONS OF WATER AVAILABLE. AND WAREHOUSING PAYS THE LEAST IN PROPERTY TAXES OF ANYTHING WE COULD GET, VERSUS A PHARMACEUTICAL LIKE MACHINERY AND TOOL TAXES. EVEN THOUGH YOU GIVE THEM A FIVE YEAR REBATE. YES, WE GOT BIT WITH ROLLS ROYCE, BUT THAT FIRST YEAR THAT REBATE ROLLED OFF, THAT WAS $475,000 THAT CAME INTO THE COUNTY'S GENERAL FUND. SO. I KNOW IT'S A BIG LIFT, BUT TO DO NOTHING, I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO KILL EVERYTHING. AND IT'S GOING TO END IN A YEAR´S TIME. AND EVEN WITH THAT, AFTER THE NEW SCHOOL ON MIDDLE ROAD, OUR DEBT SERVICE RIGHT NOW IS ONLY GOING TO GIVE US. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, MR. DREWRY. AND IF I'M WRONG, I'LL APOLOGIZE LATER. $8.1 MILLION. OKAY? TO STAY WITHIN WHAT WE'VE DONE. BUT OVER THE YEARS, FOLKS, RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT, WE HAVE. I THINK WE'VE DONE REALLY GOOD IN MANAGING OUR BUDGET. THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE CREDIT RATINGS WE'VE GOT. AND WE'RE ABLE TO BORROW THE MONEY WE CAN BORROW. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE DONE. WE HAVE TRIED TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN DO. WE DID DIP INTO THE GENERAL FUND LAST YEAR FOR ONE TIME EXPENSE WHEN WE GOT TO FIRE ENGINES AND AMBULANCES, WHICH IS A NEED. IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S A NEED THAT CAN'T BE OVERLOOKED. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A. I'M LOOKING AT A GENTLEMAN RIGHT NOW, STOOD RIGHT HERE AND TOLD US ALL THAT'S A MUST DO. THAT'S NOT A IF. SO WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? TO DO NOTHING, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A $15 MILLION. WE KNOW THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS WE CAN'T DISCUSS OUT THERE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CONFIRMED. SUSSEX NEEDS IT. NOT INCLUDING THE INDUSTRIAL PARK NEEDS IT. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS IN THE COUNTY. WE DON'T WANT TO SEND IT TO THE JAMES RIVER. THAT'S CHESAPEAKE BAY ACT. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HOPE WAS GOING TO WIND UP DOING WITH D&A AND DEQ AND ENVIRONMENTAL WITH THE NITRATES AND THE AMMONIA. THEY HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT YET, OR EVEN IF THEY CAN MEET THOSE STANDARDS. AND FOR US TO BECOME A PARTNER, EVEN WITH HOPEWELL, AND IT LOOKS CHEAPER UNLESS YOU GO TO THE LAST WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT COSTS TO PRODUCE VERSUS WHAT WE'RE PAYING HOPE OR VERSUS WHAT WE'RE CHARGING OUR OWN CUSTOMERS, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHARGE. BUT IF WE BECOME A PARTNER WITH THEM, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO EXPECT US TO COME UP WITH THAT DOLLARS TO HELP REPAIR AND REFURBISH THAT PLANT AND MAINTAIN IT. AND WE'RE CHARGING WHAT, ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT WE CHARGE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD BUSINESS DEAL. I'LL BE DAMNED IF I DO IT. AND THEY CAN'T GET ANYWHERE PAST EVEN MAYBE 1.2, 1.3 MGD MORE. AND THEY SAID TO GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO 6 OR 7, THEY PROBABLY 10 OR 15 YEARS OUT. I'M NOT TRYING TO KNOCK THEM, BUT THEY'VE GOT ISSUES. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. WELL I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST ABOUT THE COMPLETE EIGHT YEARS AND I WILL AGREE THIS CAN HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS PRIOR TO ME BEING ON THIS BOARD. I WOULD AGREE THAT I THINK DOING NOTHING IS NOT THE RIGHT OPTION. I THINK ALL WE'RE DOING IS DELAYING THE INEVITABLE TO SOME POINT. IF WE KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD, EVEN IF WE PUT MONEY ASIDE, OUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE EVEN MORE AS WE MOVE FURTHER ALONG. SO THE $80 MILLION TODAY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, $150 MILLION AND ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS JUST BECAUSE OF COST. I BELIEVE THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THIS WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO SUPPORT US GETTING BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY IN THE BUSINESS PARK AREA. AGAIN, THAT IN THE LONG TERM WOULD HELP TO OFFSET TAX RATES AND GET THIS OFF THE BACK OF OUR CITIZENS. I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF ANY TAX INCREASE, MEANING A RATE INCREASE BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS STUCK WITH. WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO. BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ON COUNTY WATER OR COUNTY SEWER SHOULD NOT HAVE TO INCUR THEIR RATES GOING UP FOR THE TAX RATE IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING A BENEFIT OUT OF IT BY HAVING THE SERVICE. [01:30:04] SO THAT WOULD BE THE BIG THING. IF I WAS TO CONTINUE ON THE BOARD THAT I. THAT PIECE OF IT BECAUSE AGAIN, ALL ALONG, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD BE COVERED BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THIS UTILITY OR PUBLIC SERVICE AND COVERED BY WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO AS A BOARD FOR THE COUNTY TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE. I'M NOT HAPPY TO SIT HERE AND WATCH IN TWO DAYS TO LOSE POTENTIALLY UP TO $15 MILLION, BECAUSE IF WE LET THAT GO, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FROM. AND TRUST ME, I'M SURE PEOPLE FROM THE STATE ARE WATCHING WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. I'M SURE THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE INTEREST IN PRINCE GEORGE THAT ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, AND HOW WE HANDLE THIS IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THIS COUNTY. SO THAT'S MY SPIEL, PART OF THIS TOUGH CONVERSATION. IT'S NOT AN EASY CONVERSATION. I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM $80 MILLION. BUT I KNOW WE NEED THE NEW SCHOOL. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL, TO BE HONEST. I WOULD HOPE MAYBE THERE'S AN OPTION OF DOING AN ADDITION TO THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT COULD BE, WELL LESS THE INITIAL COST TO AT LEAST GIVE SOME RELIEF. YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE WITH YOU. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE SCHOOLS, WITHIN STATION 6 WHICH IS THE STATION RIGHT THERE OFF OF SOUTH CRATER ROAD BY SALEM BROTHERS. SO I DO REALIZE THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ALSO NEED TO BE DONE. BUT I CAN ALSO SAY WITH THE CAPACITY THAT YOU JUST HEARD, MR. HALTOM, IF WE WERE TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL, THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE STUDENTS THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE CURRENT CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TONIGHT, MR. HALTOM, TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY YOU WILL OR YOU WON'T, BUT THAT'S ALSO PART OF MY CONCERN. SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND. I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO OPTIONS. AND I THINK MR. HALTOM USED. THIS WOULD BE THE AGREEMENT WITH ONE OF THE TWO LOCALITIES. THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY. CORRECT. RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS TO VOTE ON AN OPTION AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK AS LONG AS TIME TO WORK TOWARDS A FINAL AGREEMENT BASED ON SCHEDULING OF THE BOARDS AND THE COUNCILS AS NECESSARY. SO IF WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME, IF WE AGREE TO ONE OPTION OR THE OTHER, THEN WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOARD CAN FINALIZE AN AGREEMENT AS WELL AS EITHER CITY OF HOPEWELL OR SUSSEX COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN MR. COX'S POINT. SORRY TO STEP IN. NO, GO AHEAD SIR. IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE MONEY. THAT'S CORRECT. IF WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING AND IT DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION, WE HAVEN'T SPENT IT. WE JUST GIVE IT BACK. THAT'S CORRECT. OR WE'RE BASICALLY NOT DRAWING ON IT BECAUSE IT'S. WE'RE NOT DRAWING ON IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET, LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. BUT JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY AND FULL DISCLOSURE. YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATION FROM THE EDP IS THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE AGREEMENTS SIGNED, WE CAN TAKE ACTION PRETTY QUICKLY. RIGHT. BUT WE STILL NEED TIME TO WORK OUT THE FINAL DETAILS. CORRECT. SO YOU CAN'T TAKE BUT SO MUCH ACTION UNTIL WE UNTIL THIS BOARD KNOWS THE FINAL DETAILS. BUT YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE I AM. I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE SHALL OR MUST, BUT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD CHOOSE A DIRECTION TONIGHT. AND THAT'S NOT SO LEGAL AND BINDING THAT WE'RE STUCK WITH IT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I SAY NOT STUCK WITH IT. I MEAN, LIKE, IF THE TWO SIDES DON'T COME TO TERMS ON THE FINAL PIECE IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. AND IN MY OPINION, THESE AGREEMENTS ARE PRETTY FAR ALONG AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE IN DRAFTING THESE AND AS WELL AS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY AND THE SUSSEX COUNTY. WE FEEL PRETTY STRONG THAT WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT RATHER QUICKLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MR. JABRI, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT YET, UNTIL. UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY. OKAY. SO, BOARD MEMBERS AGAIN, AS WE SAID, WE GOT A TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE. MR. CHAIR. YES, SIR, MR. WEBB. HEARING NONE, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARDS SUSSEX. OKAY, SO IT'S BEEN MOVED. I NEED A SECOND. AND SO SINCE I'M NOT HEARING A SECOND, I'M GOING TO STEP FORWARD AND SECOND [01:35:04] MR. WEBB'S MOTION. MISS PASTOR, AS BEING OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN, WITH ME SECONDING THAT MOTION. I CAN'T CARRY THE MOTION? NO. NO, NORMALLY, I WOULD TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO THE NEXT SENIOR PERSON, WHICH IS MR. WEBB, BUT HE CAN'T. [INAUDIBLE]. I'M SORRY. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TALKED. GO AHEAD. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. HE CAN'T CARRY THE MOTION BECAUSE HE MADE THE MOTION. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO MR. COX, RECOGNIZING HIM AS THE NEXT SENIOR PERSON, ONLY BECAUSE YOU BOTH STARTED ON THE SAME TIME. AND WE GO BY THE LAST NAME ALPHABETICAL. THAT´S CORRECT. SO AT THIS TIME I CAN EITHER PASS YOU THE GAVEL OR YOU JUST CARRY THE MOTION THROUGH. ALL RIGHT, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. YOU'VE HEARD THE SECOND. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. PUGH. NO. MR. COX. NO. MR. BROWN. YES. OKAY. MOTION DOES NOT PASS. WELL. NO. NO. I'LL CLARIFY THAT. YES, SO WE HAVE. THE WAY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER READS, AND WE DO HAVE A BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT TONIGHT. THE MOTION DID END IN A TIE. WE ARE SHORT ONE BOARD MEMBER. AND PLEASE, MISS PASTOR, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, IF THE MOTION ENDS IN A TIE, THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY ADVANCES TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING AS LONG AS THAT BOARD MEMBER IS HERE. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S IN OUR BYLAWS. IT'S IN OUR BYLAWS, OKAY. IF A TIE VOTE OCCURS WHEN A MEMBER OF THE BOARD IS ABSENT, THEN THE MATTER IS AUTOMATICALLY ADDED TO THE BOARD´S NEXT MEETING AGENDA. RIGHT. AND THE MOTION WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THE SAME AS WHAT IT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT. CORRECT. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN ON THAT MOTION ONCE WE WOULD HAVE MISS WAYMACK AVAILABLE. YES. OKAY, EVERYONE CLEAR ON THAT? GAVEL BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. THE VIRTUAL GAVEL. SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE MOTION ENDED IN A TIE. THIS MOTION WILL COME BACK. THIS ITEM WILL COME BACK TO THIS BOARD ON NOVEMBER THE 25TH, I BELIEVE WHICH IS THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. AND THIS WILL PROBABLY BE UNDER THE POSTPONED ITEM SECTION OF OUR AGENDA FOR THIS MOTION TO COME BACK TO THE FLOOR. SO NOW, I THINK, MR. JABRI, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO. YES, SIR. WITH OUR CURRENT DEADLINE BEING NOVEMBER 14TH, JUST ASKING FOR A CONSENSUS TO WRITE AN EXTENSION LETTER TO THE STATE TO OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING OR TWO DAYS AFTER. I PUT THAT BEFORE THE BOARD MEMBERS. BASICALLY WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THE CURRENT DEADLINE IS FRIDAY THE 14TH. CORRECT. AND HE'S ASKING IF HE CAN GET A CONSENSUS FROM THIS BOARD SO THAT. TO SEE IF THEY WOULD ALLOW THIS TO BE EXTENDED TO GO TO, I GUESS, THE FRIDAY AFTER THE 25TH, BASED ON WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IS FROM THAT VOTE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY, SO. I GOT A QUESTION. YES, SIR. GO RIGHT AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. HOW FAST DOES IT HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED, IF WE ACCEPT THE GRANT? SO CAN WE ACCEPT A GRANT? AND IF WE TAKE FIVE YEARS TO GET THE REST OF THE MONEY TO FINISH IT, IS THERE A TIME RESTRAINT ON THAT? YEAH. THE STATE IS LOOKING FOR 1 TO 2 YEARS [INAUDIBLE]. SO, YES. YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION. I'M IN FAVOR OF ASKING FOR THE EXTENSION. I'LL BE VERY SURPRISED IF THEY GIVE IT TO US. BUT IT'S WORTH A SHOT. OKAY. I'M IN FAVOR OF AT LEAST ASKING, NOT KNOWING WHETHER THEY'LL SAY YES, OR HOPEFULLY NOT EVEN KNOWING WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE ON THE 25TH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT HURTS TO ASK. AND I NEED TO HEAR FROM BOTH OF YOU GUYS, PLEASE. I'M OKAY WITH IT TO ALLOW THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT'S NOT HERE TO VOICE THEIR OPINION. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH ASKING FOR THE EXTENSION? YES. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS INTERPRETING IT CORRECTLY. MR. COX. NO. OKAY. SO THERE IS A CONSENSUS TONIGHT FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO SEE ABOUT ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION, WHICH AT LEAST GIVES MISS WAYMACK HER CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS TOPIC. SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS. [01:40:01] THE NEXT BUSINESS ITEM WE HAVE IS A RESOLUTION FOR THE AUTHORITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO APPLY TO THE ASPCA FOR GRANT FUNDING. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING, SIR. PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS, ASPCA, FOR A NO MATCH SHELTER INITIATIVE GRANT NOT TO EXCEED $90,000. THE FUNDS, IF WE WERE AWARDED, WOULD BE USED FOR VETERINARY CARE FOR SPAY NEUTER, PREVENTATIVE VACCINATIONS AND EMERGENCY CARE. AGAIN, NO LOCAL MATCH REQUIRED AND THE MAX AMOUNT WOULD BE ROUGHLY $86,000, IS WHAT WE'RE APPLYING FOR. I THINK IT'S ONLY $2.5 MILLION AVAILABLE NATIONWIDE. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU AND HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF EARLY? IT'S AN EASY ONE. YEP. NO MATCH. SO MOVED. SECOND. YEAH, IT DOES MAKE IT EASIER. SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECOND BY MR. COX THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE AUTHORITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO APPLY FOR THIS ASPCA GRANT. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. PUGH. YES, MR. COX. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, CHIEF. NEXT WE HAVE IS A RESOLUTION FOR AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS 2026 MINI GRANT. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE MR. BEAR. YES. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THIS EVENING TO PRESENT YOU SOME GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. THE FIRST GRANT OPPORTUNITY IS THE ONE YOU JUST BROUGHT UP IS THE WHAT THEY CALL A MINI GRANT FIRE PROGRAMS FOR $30,000. IT WILL REPLACE TURNOUT GEAR AND REPLACE FIVE SETS OF TURNOUT GEAR. THERE'S NO MATCH ON THIS, SO THERE'S NO COST FOR US. IT'S A REIMBURSABLE GRANT. OUR RESOLUTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS GRANT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BEAR? ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY. THIS ONE'S AN EASY ONE. I MAKE A MOTION. NO, THERE'S NO MATCH. SO. YEAH. NO MATCH. I GOT THE MOTION FROM MR. COX. I'LL SECOND IT. AND YOU. OKAY, SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. WEBB THAT WE WOULD APPROVE FOR THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH 2026 MINI GRANT FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAM. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. COX. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MOTION CARRIED. THE NEXT ONE IS AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT POLL PLACE? YES. ALL RIGHT. A LITTLE INFORMATION BEFORE THIS. THE NEXT THREE GRANTS FALLS UNDER THE SAME GRANT PROCESS. OKAY. THE GRANT IS BEING OFFERED TO 17 JURISDICTIONS WITHIN OUR REGION. THE AMOUNT IS FOR $9.5 MILLION. THESE WILL BE REGIONAL GRANTS TO SUPPORT THE REGION. PRINCE GEORGE WILL BE PUTTING IN FOR THREE GRANTS TO SUPPORT PRINCE GEORGE DIRECTLY, BUT WE WILL ALSO BE PARTNER WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS. HOPE US PUTTING IN THREE GRANTS. COLONIAL HEIGHTS IS PUTTING IN A GRANT THAT WILL IMPACT US. PETERSBURG IS PUTTING IN ONE. CHESTERFIELD IS PUTTING IN TWO THAT WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT TOWARDS US. AND HANOVER IS PUTTING IN ONE. THE TOTAL OF ALL THE GRANTS THAT WILL BENEFIT PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY IS $1.4 MILLION. SO THE GRANT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW TO APPROVE THAT WE'RE ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD ON IS FOR THE POLLING SCANNERS AND TABULATORS. THOSE MACHINES HAVE A TEN YEAR EXPECTANCY ON LIFE. WE PURCHASED THOSE IN 2017. SO IN 2027, THEY'LL REACH THEIR LIFE. UNDER THIS GRANT, IT REQUIRES THAT 3% OF THE GRANT IS USED FOR VOTING SECURITY. SO WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT TO REPLACE OUR POLLING MACHINES WITH NEW UPDATED MACHINES THAT WILL MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. AND THAT GRANT, FOR THAT IS $122,550. AND THAT'S A NO MATCH GRANT EITHER. REIMBURSABLE, NOTHING OUT OF THE COUNTY'S FUNDS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BEAR ON THIS ONE? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. MR. BEAR, I NOTICED ON THIS ONE AND THE NEXT TWO, THE DUE DATE´S, [01:45:03] OCTOBER 31ST. YES. WE'RE ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT. THE REGION HAS A GROUP THAT WILL BE APPROVING THAT, AND THAT WILL BE DONE ON THE 14TH. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THE GRANT OR MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GRANT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I'M PART OF THAT COMMITTEE, AND WE MEET ON FRIDAY TO DECIDE WHOSE GRANTS WILL BE APPROVED. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACK INFORMATION, OUT OF THE 17 JURISDICTIONS, THERE WERE 37 GRANTS PUT FORTH FOR $10.4 MILLION. AND THE TOTAL GRANTS FOR THE REGION IS 9.5. SO MAJORITY OF IT, I WOULD SAY ABOUT FIVE GRANTS MAY NOT MAKE IT, BUT THAT'S STILL 30 SOME GRANTS THAT WILL GET APPROVED. SO WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD CHANCE OF GETTING THESE APPROVED BECAUSE WE'RE JUST AT THE THRESHOLD OF THE REQUIREMENT. SO HAVE WE ALREADY PUT IN FOR IT, AND WE'RE JUST WAITING. WE PUT THEM AS PROPOSALS. THE DECISIONS WILL BE MADE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE 14TH THIS FRIDAY, BUT THEY WERE THEY HAD TO BE PROJECTS OR PROPOSALS PUT IN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, BOARD MEMBERS? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. PUGH, THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR AN AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. BROWN. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MR. COX. YES. MOTION CARRIED. THE NEXT ONE IS TO PROCEED. LET ME MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS RIGHT. OKAY, SO THIS ONE IS TO PROCEED WITH AN URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT, AND THIS IS FOR ADVANCED TECHNICAL RESCUE TRAINING. YES. OKAY. THIS IS FOR THE CRATER TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM. THIS WILL BE BRINGING ALL THEIR REQUIRED CLASSES FROM VEHICLE EXTRICATION TO ROPE THE CONFINED SPACE, THE TRENCH STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE, AND SWIFT WATER. IT WILL BRING ALL THOSE CLASSES TO THIS REGION SO THAT WE CAN TRAIN OUR TEAM TO GET THEM UP AND TRAINED TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW MEMBERS. AND THIS GRANT IS FOR $204,100. OKAY. NO MATCH? NO MATCH. SAME GRANT. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, BOARD MEMBERS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. PUGH. AND SECOND, BY MR. COX THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT FOR ADVANCED TECHNICAL RESCUE TRAINING FOR THE REGIONAL TECHNICAL SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. BROWN. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MR. COX. YES. MOTION CARRIED. WE HAVE ANOTHER AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT FOR REGIONAL CRATER TECHNICAL SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. THE TEAM'S BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE THE LATE 90S, SO WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ACROSS THE BOARD. THIS WILL BE REPLACING THE FIRST PPE, GEAR, ROPE, WEBBING, STUFF LIKE THAT THAT HAS A SHELF LIFE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND THE FUNDING FOR OURSELVES. SO THIS GRANT IS FOR $150,000 TO REPLACE THOSE EQUIPMENT. OKAY. AND NO MATCH? NO MATCH. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. WEBB THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION FOR AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THIS URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE GRANT REGIONAL CRATER TECHNICAL SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PROJECT. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. BROWN. YES. MR. COX. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU, BOARD. THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. OUR NEXT IS A RESOLUTION FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND APPROPRIATION OF $289,827.10. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE AND MISS PASTOR. THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE REQUESTS TO APPROPRIATE AWARDED GRANTS. YOU JUST HEARD REQUESTS TO APPLY FOR GRANTS. THESE HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR IN THE PAST, WITH YOUR PERMISSION. AND NOW WE ARE SEEKING AN APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION FOR ONE AND AN APPROPRIATION AND A POSITION CONTROL CHART CHANGE ON THE OTHER. THE FIRST GRANT IS A REGIONAL GRANT. MISS WAFF CAME BEFORE YOU SOME TIME AGO AND RECEIVED AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR A REGIONAL [01:50:04] OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY GRANT. THIS GRANT WAS APPLIED FOR IN COOPERATION WITH DINWIDDIE, HOPEWELL, AND SURRY COUNTIES, IN ADDITION TO PRINCE GEORGE. PRINCE GEORGE WILL SERVE AS THE FISCAL AGENT, AND NOT ONLY ARE STATE OPIOID ABATEMENT GRANT DOLLARS BEING AWARDED, BUT EACH LOCALITY IS PROVIDING A MATCH. SURRY AND PRINCE GEORGE ARE PROVIDING SOME OF OUR DIRECT DISTRIBUTIONS AS A MATCH, WHEREAS ALL FOUR LOCALITIES ARE RECEIVING ADDITIONAL OPIOID FUNDING FROM THE STATE FOR HAVING APPLIED FOR THIS REGIONAL GRANT. THE TOTAL SOURCES OF FUNDING ARE $289,827.10, OF WHICH $60,451.90 IS THE STATE OPIOID ABATEMENT GRANT, AND THE REMAINING DOLLARS ARE THE VARIETY OF MATCHES. THIS GRANT FUNDING WILL BE USED FOR A REGIONAL MOBILE OVERDOSE RESPONSE UNIT, WHICH WILL BE STAFFED AND MANAGED BY GREATER REACH COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD. WE WILL SIMPLY PAY GREATER REACH COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD AS THEY INVOICE US. THEY WILL INCUR THE COSTS FOR THE MOBILE UNIT. SO I BELIEVE THEY ARE LEASING SOME VEHICLES AND HIRING PERSONNEL. PEER RECOVERY SPECIALISTS, THREE OF THOSE, ONE OF WHICH WILL SERVE AS A LEAD AND SOME OVERTIME PAY WILL BE PAID TO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. WE, AS THE FISCAL AGENT, DID SET UP AN ENTIRE NEW FUND TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS PRETTY COMPLEX GRANT. THE MATCH DOLLARS HAVE TO BE SPENT IN FULL BEFORE THE GRANT WILL BE REIMBURSED. SO WE HAVE SET UP A WHOLE SEPARATE FUND. THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DREWRY? AND JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THIS IS MONEY THAT HAS BEEN AWARDED TO US, THAT WE'RE NOW HAVING TO APPROPRIATE IT INTO OUR BUDGET. IT'S NOT US SPENDING AN EXTRA 200 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. CORRECT. AND IT'S NOT JUST PRINCE GEORGE FUNDING. WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME DIRECT OPIOID ABATEMENT DISTRIBUTIONS, WHICH THE RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOARD IS WORKING WITH MISS WAFF TO DETERMINE THE BEST USE, MOST EFFECTIVE USE OF THOSE OPIOID ABATEMENT SETTLEMENTS, WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM A VARIETY OF DISTRIBUTORS AND MANUFACTURERS AND RETAILERS. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, BOARD MEMBERS? SO MOVED. SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECONDED BY MR. COX THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION FOR THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT AND APPROPRIATION OF $289,827.10, WHICH IS REGIONAL STATE OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY GRANT AND PARTICIPATION. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. COX. YES. MR. PUGH. YES. MR. WEBB. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MOTION CARRIED. YOU'RE UP NEXT, MISS. ALL RIGHT. AND KATIE TANNEHILL, OUR RECOVERY COORDINATOR IS IN THE AUDIENCE. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS NEXT GRANT APPROPRIATION, MISS TANNEHILL DID SEEK PERMISSION FROM YOU TO APPLY FOR A SORE GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES. THAT GRANT WAS RECENTLY AWARDED AND WILL FUND WITH NO MATCH. IT WILL FUND SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF AND SERVICES FOR THE RECOVERY COURT PARTICIPANTS. SPECIFICALLY, IT WILL FUND A FULL TIME CERTIFIED SUBSTANCE ABUSE COUNSELOR AND A PART TIME PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST TO ENHANCE THE RECOVERY COURT'S TREATMENT SERVICES. THEY WILL PROVIDE A CONSISTENT TREATMENT PRESENCE FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE RECOVERY COURT PROGRAM. THERE IS ALSO A TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT, AND THIS GRANT AWARD TO ASSIST PARTICIPANTS WITH TRANSPORTATION. THAT DOES SEEM TO BE A BARRIER FOR THEM. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE SOME PROGRAM SUPPLIES COVERED BY THIS GRANT, SINCE THIS THIS GRANT FUNDING DOES ADD A POSITION OR A FULL TIME POSITION TO THE COUNTY. WE ARE ALSO ASKING, IN ADDITION TO THE APPROPRIATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR POSITION CONTROL CHART, TO ADD THAT FULL TIME SUBSTANCE ABUSE COUNSELOR. SO THE RESOLUTION THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET COVERS BOTH THE APPROPRIATION AND THE POSITION CONTROL CHART EDITION. [01:55:02] OKAY. DANIELLE AND I ARE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS, BOARD MEMBERS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. WEBB THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR APPROPRIATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET OF VIRGINIA STATE OPIOID RESPONSE GRANT FUNDS OF $224,435.15, AND A CHANGE TO THE FISCAL 2025-26 POSITION CONTROL CHART. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. COX. YES. MR. PUGH. YES, MR. WEBB. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MOTION CARRIED. THANK YOU. YES. MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. BOARD MEMBERS, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD BE ASKING FOR A MOTION FOR US TO ADJOURN. THIS MOTION WOULD BE TO ADJOURN TO NOVEMBER THE 18TH, WHICH IS NEXT TUESDAY, FOR A SPECIAL CALL MEETING OF THIS BOARD. IT WILL START AT 5 P.M. AND IT WILL BE A CLOSED SESSION ON THAT NIGHT. SO THIS IS NOT ON THE MEETING SCHEDULE. THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE WOULD BE ADJOURNING TO FOR NOVEMBER THE 18TH AT 5 P.M. SO I NEED A MOTION, PLEASE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. PUGH AND SECOND BY MR. WEBB THAT WE WOULD ADJOURN TO OUR SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON NOVEMBER THE 18TH, STARTING AT 5 P.M. FOR A CLOSED SESSION ON THAT EVENING. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. PUGH. YES, MR. WEBB. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. COX. YES. MOTION CARRIED. WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL THE 18TH. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.