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CAROL CRAWFORD, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL FOR US, PLEASE? ERIC CRAWFORD HERE. HAVE YOUR GUYS HERE. I'M MARY ANN WHITE HERE.
ELIZABETH ABERNATHY, RAYMOND EVERETT, PRESENT.
KEVIN WINFREY HERE. THANK YOU. WILL COUNTY STAFF PLEASE STAND AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? JASON COWAN AND DEBORAH SALAKO, REAL ESTATE TECHNICIAN.
CAROL CRAWFORD, TECHNICIAN. JOYCE. CHRISTINA.
APPRAISAL. JOHN BURTON. SENIOR. WHERE'S THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE? WHICH? PIERCE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THANK YOU.
IF THE STAFF WILL REMAIN STANDING, THAT WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY.
I WILL SWEAR YOU IN. ANYBODY WILL BE TESTIFYING TODAY.
JOHN. BECAUSE SINCE YOU TESTIFIED SOMETHING YESTERDAY, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? YES. THANK YOU. IN HIS VISION. ON THE PHONE. HELLO, VISION.
HE'S HERE. YEAH, WE CAN HEAR HIM, BUT Y'ALL CAN'T YET.
WE CAN HEAR YOU, SEAN. CAN HE RAISE HIS RIGHT HAND? HE'S FIRST PERSON. YEAH. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. SEAN.
DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? DID HE SAY I DO? OKAY. WORST CASE WILL BE STEVEN G.
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SUSSKIND. AND JENNIFER ZISKIN.STEPHEN G. SUSSKIND AND JENNIFER D SUSSKIND.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD? I MOVE THAT WE FARM THE ASSESSMENT AND MOVE FORWARD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.
THE ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN AFFIRMED. MADAM CHAIRMAN, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, YOU NEED AN ALL IN.
ALL IN FAVOR? OH. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
NEXT CASE. WE HAVE FOUR CASES. CAN YOU REPEAT THE THE SECOND PERSON FROM VISION JUST JOINED, AND HE NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN AS WELL. OKAY. WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? WHO IS THAT GENTLEMAN? MR. TORELLO, CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON JUST FOR A SECOND? RIGHT HERE. SURE. GO AHEAD. I MISSED THE TRAIL.
DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? THANK YOU. NEXT CASES WILL BE FRANKLIN W AND KATHY FISHER.
MADAM CHAIR. THEY. THOSE CASES ARE AT 10:00, RIGHT? KRISTEN, YOU REPRESENT EVERY YOU REPRESENTS EVERYBODY HERE.
THAT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU. I MEAN, I KNOW Y'ALL WERE LATE LAST YESTERDAY.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO HONOR YOUR FINE. I MEAN, YOUR APPOINTMENT WAS AT TEN.
IF YOU WANT TO GO ON WITHOUT, YOUR HONOR, THAT'S MEAN.
I CAN GO WITH THE THREE THAT I'M REPRESENTING AND THEN SEE IF SOMEBODY ELSE SHOWS UP AND THEN GO WITH MINE, BECAUSE MINE'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THE THREE THAT I REPRESENT.
OKAY. WHY DON'T WE GO WITH YOURS FIRST? YOU WANNA DO THE LONG ONE FIRST?
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YEAH. THAT WAY IT WILL BE PRETTY MUCH ON TIME.ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S DO THIS. AND YOURS WILL BE TRISTAN T AND CAROLYN H.
IT'S 52. OH, IT'S LOT 12, I BELIEVE. MADAM SECRETARY ELIZABETH ABERNATHY HAS ARRIVED.
MA'AM, PLEASE MAKE A NOTE. SORRY. IT'S OKAY. MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, I'LL NOT VOTE ON.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UP HERE.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. SORRY, TRISTAN. OH. YOU'RE FINE.
OKAY. I NEED YOU TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. GIVE US YOUR FULL NAME.
TRISTAN. THOMAS MCMILLEN. DO YOU SWEAR? A PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY WHILE UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? I DO. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS ON YOUR PROPERTY.
PERSONAL PROPERTY? YEAH. I HAD ZERO LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS APPLIED FOR JUST A SECOND.
WHAT IS THE ADDRESS? IT'S 3416 LINDBERGH COURT.
JUST GIVE US A SECOND. FIND THE PAPERWORK. YEAH, THAT'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK. I'M SORRY.
ALL RIGHT. DOES EVERYBODY HAVE MR. MCMILLAN'S PAPERWORK? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I HAD ZERO LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS APPLIED TO MY PARCEL.
I ALSO HAVE WETLANDS, ALBEIT A TINY BIT VISIBLE ON GIS.
I BELIEVE IT IS ABOUT A 10TH OF AN ACRE. OTHER PARCELS AROUND ME.
THIS INCLUDES CREATION AND MAINTENANCE OF CHECK DAMS TO SLOW THE FLOW, REGRADING THE BANKS OF THE CREEK, REMOVAL OF SEDIMENT THAT COLLECTS, AND THE PURCHASE OF RIPRAP, BOULDERS AND GEOTEXTILE FABRIC.
IT'S VERY HARD TO TELL HOW THESE WETLANDS ADJUSTMENTS WERE JUSTIFIED, LET ALONE UNIFORMLY APPLIED.
IT DOES, HOWEVER, HAVE FEMA FLOOD ZONES INDICATED ON ON IT.
I HAVE THE SAME FEMA ISSUES, AND I DON'T HAVE 30% TAKEN OFF OF MY LAND LIKE THEIRS.
15 400 PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE. THERE'S 35% TAKEN OFF OF WETLANDS WITHOUT ANY WETLANDS ON THE GIS LAYER.
THERE'S PLENTY MORE EXAMPLES OF THIS FROM JORDAN POINT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CARSON.
JUST ASK THAT EVERYTHING BE APPLIED EQUALLY TO MY PARCEL, JUST LIKE THEY ARE MY NEIGHBOR.
AND PARCELS, THAT'S ALL. THAT'S THAT'S IT ON THAT. THAT PART.
OKAY. COUNTY VISION. I WOULD SUGGEST, IF IT SEEMS TO BE SEEMS TO BE CORRECT. AS FAR AS HIS NEIGHBORS, I WOULD I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH APPLYING THE SAME DEPRECIATION TO HIS PROPERTY.
OKAY. WELL. YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING WHAT? WHAT FACTORS ARE YOU UTILIZING IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THAT DETERMINATION? AS FAR AS WHAT'S WETLAND, WHAT'S NOT? YEAH. MY UNDERSTANDING IS GIS. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY USED ANY MAPS OR NOT.
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I'M NOT POSITIVE ON THAT. I CAN FIND OUT. BUT BACK TO THE EQUITY PART OF IT.IT SHOULD BE THE SAME. FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF ACREAGE, ROUGHLY.
SO I HAVE SO HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IS THE GENTLEMAN'S PROPERTY.
IT'S PULLED UP AND IT HAS SO DON'T HAVE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT.
YEAH, THEY HAVE A 20% RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT. AND THEY HAVE NO, NO WETLAND.
BUT THERE WAS NO WETLAND ON THEIR PROPERTY. I JUST HAVE A, I GUESS, A LITTLE BIT OF A CREEK.
LET ME LOOK AT THESE TWO OVER HERE. THEY PULL THEM UP IN THE SYSTEM.
15300 CLICKER. MR. COWAN, COULD YOU SPEAK UP, PLEASE? INTO THE MIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY. SO THIS PROPERTY HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, WHICH IS SIMILAR AS A 15% REDUCTION FOR WETLANDS. LET ME LOOK AT ONE OTHER ONE AT THE CREEK GOING THROUGH IT.
YEAH. THAT'S THE QUOTE UNQUOTE CREEK. YEAH. YEAH, WHATEVER THAT IS.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTED. YEAH, THE FIRST ONE RIGHT THERE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT.
YEAH. IS THAT ONE OF YOUR FOLKS THAT YOU REPRESENT ON THE.
NO, THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY EXAMPLES ON WHY IT'S LIKE THAT THERE, BUT NOT NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT APPLIED TO US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND HE'S RIGHT.
IT WAS THERE OR ELSE LISTED FOR SALE. WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN, SIR? CLIPPER LINES 3416 LINDBERGH CLIPPERTON DRIVE.
SO AS IT STANDS NOW, HE HAS A WETLANDS OF 0.95 AND A RESTRICTED EASEMENT OF 0.95.
IF WE HE WERE TO MAKE MINE? YES. WHEN WAS THAT CHANGED? I HAVE NO IDEA. I JUST PULLED IT UP THIS MORNING.
SO. WAS THAT FOR THE APPEAL? I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE. MR. MCMILLAN, WHAT NUMBERS ARE YOU WORKING OFF OF? WHAT NUMBER SHEET? NO. WHAT NUMBERS ARE YOU WORKING ON FOR YOUR LAND ASSESSMENT CURRENTLY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY ONE AFTER THE APPEAL.
WHICH I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHEN THAT CHANGE WAS DONE. THE LAND IS 96 SIX NOW.
IT WENT DOWN FROM 107. OKAY, SO 96 SIX IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF WE WERE TO GET TREATED.
LET ME APPLY THIS TO THE. IF WE WERE TO MAKE IT MORE SIMILAR TO THE ONES TO THE RIGHT.
HIS LAND WOULD BECOME $77,300, AND IT WOULD BE GOING BACK.
IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY THE SAME THING IT WAS IN 2023, ACTUALLY, $300 LESS.
SO. AND WHAT'S THAT ACCOUNTING FOR? IT IS GIVING A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT OF 15% IN THE WETLANDS, A 15%. OKAY. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S UP R4 HAVE AT LEAST 20%.
WELL, I MEAN, I LOOKED AT THESE TWO OVER HERE AND THEY HAD 15.
YET THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE ACREAGE THAT'S AFFECTED IS LESS THAN MINE.
LET ME LOOK UP. LOOK AT ME. LOOK AT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE REAL QUICK.
AND I NEED TO GET A PIVOT TABLE. I MEAN, I PUT IT ON THE MAPS THAT I INCLUDED.
I MEAN, I'VE GOT IT ALL WRITTEN OUT IN ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS.
IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT, I THINK THINGS ARE GOING YOUR WAY.
THIS ONE IS 35%. YEAH. AND THAT'S AFFECTED THE SAME AMOUNT, ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT AS
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ACREAGE AS MINE. AND IT GETS 35% AND I GOT NONE UNTIL I APPEALED.AND THEN I GOT 5%. YEAH. AND THAT POOR GUY, THAT'S ONE.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT WOULD.
HOW IS IT IMPACTING THE VALUE OF THESE LOTS. LIKE WHAT IS WHAT IS BEING RESTRICTIVE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS.
I MEAN, THAT'S OUR PROPERTY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE 25FT.
WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT. IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD THAT'S NOT PUBLIC.
OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S A BURDEN TO EVERYBODY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
ASPHALT NEXT YEAR. I DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU. WE NEEDED THAT. YEAH. A GOOD WAY TO START THE MORNING. A LITTLE HUMOR.
OKAY, LET ME GO BACK YOUR ADDRESS ONE MORE TIME.
AND MY ISSUE IS THAT IT'S IT'S JUST IT'S NOT UNIFORM.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE 40%, 30%, 20%, AND THEN FOUR OF US HAD ZERO, YOU KNOW.
OKAY. DURING YOUR INFORMAL APPEAL WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND VISION. YOU BROUGHT THESE ISSUES UP.
THEY GAVE YOU FIVE. GAVE THEM EXAMPLES. PERFECT EXAMPLES OF THE 40%.
THE 35%. AND I GOT 5%. THEY GAVE YOU 5% THIS MORNING.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHY WE DIDN'T GET THIS RESOLVED PRIOR TO COMING HERE.
PRIOR TO COMING HERE, IT SEEMED LIKE WE COULD HAVE COMMENT THERE.
NO COMMENT. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN LIKE PULLING TEETH TO GET ANYTHING FROM VISION.
YOU KNOW, I GOT EVERYTHING. PROBABLY A MONTH OR TWO AFTER I ASKED FOR ALL THE GUIDELINES ON HOW TO ACTUALLY HOW THEY'RE GOING THROUGH LINE BY LINE, HOW THEY'RE VALUING LAND, HOW THEY'RE VALUING THE REPLACEMENT CALLS, KNEW ALL OF THAT STUFF, AND IT TOOK ALMOST TWO MONTHS TO GET IT FROM THEM.
AND THE ONLY OPTION AT THAT POINT WAS TO JUST ADMINISTRATE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPEAL.
AND WHEN I DID, I LAID OUT ALL THE EXAMPLES. I GAVE THE SAME COMPS THAT I POSTED HERE.
I GOT 5% TAKEN OFF A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT USING USING THE 20% IN THE 15%, WHICH TOTALS UP TO 35%. THE PROPOSED LAND VALUE IS 72,800.
WHICH IS ABOUT $5,000 LESS THAN IT WAS IN 2023.
72. EIGHT. YES, SIR. IS THAT WHAT ONE OF THE OTHER ONES IS, OR IS IT MR. MCMILLAN'S? IT'S SIMILAR TO THESE. THE WETLAND CREEK IMPACT.
THESE OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT. AND THEN HE WAS SAYING 20S THE LOWEST, AND SOME HAVE AS MUCH AS 35%, 40, 40%. SO ON THE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT. SO AND I WOULD SAY THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMPOUNDING, YOU KNOW, SO THE TOTAL BETWEEN THE TWO ARE SIMILAR.
IF THAT'S THE BIGGEST, I WOULD SAY 40% IS PROBABLY TOO HIGH.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO CORRECT THE ONES THAT ARE IMPACTED ON THE 40%? ARE WE GOING TO LET THAT RIDE? SO YOU HAVE NO VDOT? DO NOT. WE TRIED FOR YEARS TO GET. WHEN MR. HUNTER WAS IN ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE TRIED FOR YEARS TO GET THAT TAKEN IN BY VDOT.
IT'S GOT IT'S 50 FOOT. IT'S ACTUALLY A 50 FOOT EASEMENT.
YEAH, IT'S FOUR INCHES THICK. EVERYTHING WAS READY TO GO FOR VDOT, BUT IT JUST HAPPENS THAT, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY ANYMORE, SO WE CAN'T TAKE IN ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ROAD BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS SET UP FOR ME TAKING OVER 100%.
IT WAS OFF THE PROPERTY LINES BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR LAND CALCULATION IS BASED OFF SOME MATH.
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LIKE YOU SEEM LIKE YOU'VE DONE SOME MATH TO GET TO THE 48 TO WHERE YOU ARE OR WHAT'S YOUR WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST FROM A NO. WHAT'S THE WORD? I'M TRYING TO THINK FROM A RESTRICTION STANDPOINT.30% FOR YOU FOR WETLANDS, 20% FOR, I MEAN RESTRICTIVE, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE BACKED INTO IT, YOU'VE CALCULATED THE NUMBER. THE PROBLEM ABOUT IT IS, IS IF YOU GO AROUND TO THOSE PROPERTIES, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S TWO PARCELS OVER THERE OFF OF PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE THAT HAVE NO WETLANDS ON THEM WHATSOEVER, AND THEY HAVE 35% TAKEN OFF, OKAY, WETLANDS FOR WETLANDS. SO WE CAN AGREE THAT'S WRONG.
THAT'S WRONG. OKAY. MY BASIS OF EVERYTHING WAS SHOOTING FOR THE MOON BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT 40% OFF.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND ME HAS GOT AT LEAST 20, 25.
SOME OF THEM HAVE 40% OFF. I WANTED TO LEAVE THAT UP TO Y'ALL.
YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS I GOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I SEEN AS EQUAL TREATMENT OF MY NEIGHBORS? JUST BECAUSE THE TWO HOUSES THAT I LISTED IN THERE ARE NEW, AND THEY MAY HAVE HAD ATTENTION FROM THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, AND THEY GOT 35% OFF. AND HERE I AM WITH ZERO.
YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR. YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOUCHED NEW HOUSES, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST 15 YEARS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NO NEW HOUSES BACK THERE? THIS ONE, RIGHT? YEAH. MR. JAYMES AND THE ONE ON LINDBERGH COURT ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT IS BRAND NEW.
YEAH. SO WHAT'S REASONABLE? I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT 48,000 HERE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S YOU SHOOTING FOR THE MOON.
YEAH. USING YOUR WORDS. YEAH. AND I'M NOT EVEN NOT BUYING A USED CAR.
RIGHT. WELL, LET'S LET'S COME UP WITH SOMETHING REASONABLE. HE'S COME. HE'S GOT 72,800.
YOUR PROPERTY IS EIGHT ACRES. 8.38.3. SO AN 8.3 ACRE SITE THERE WITH SOME WETLANDS AND THINGS.
$72,800 TO BUY THAT SITE TODAY, LADIES. IS THAT UNREASONABLE? NO, I DON'T THINK SO EITHER. NO, I THINK EIGHT ACRES.
YEAH. THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANTED TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I, WHEN I DID THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL AND THEY GAVE ME 5% BACK, YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE ALMOST.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, LISTING ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.
AND YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK 5%, THAT WAS JUST KIND OF CRAZY TO ME.
AND THAT WAS THE SAME WAY WITH MY OTHER FEW THAT I HAVE TO DO.
WAS THE LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS, AND THEY'RE EVEN A LITTLE BIT WORSE.
MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS EVEN WORSE. BUT. SO WHAT WILL THAT BRING THAT TO? 72,800 ON THE LAND FOR A TOTAL VALUE OF 428,500.
ARE YOU PLEASED WITH THAT, MISTER MCMILLAN? YEAH, I'M PLEASED WITH THAT.
AND I DID HAVE ANOTHER PART OF THAT I HAD THAT WAS PART B OF MY APPEAL, AND I HAD A PART C DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT ME, BUT IT COULD AFFECT A LOT OF LANDOWNERS. HEY, LET'S GET THIS ONE OUT OF THERE.
THAT'S FINE. I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO CLOSE OUT MY MY PERSONAL ONE WITHOUT GOING TO SEA.
I HAVE. NO. YOU CAN'T. THERE'S MORE HE WANTS TO ADD TO THIS REAL QUICK BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION.
OKAY. YEAH, IT WOULDN'T AFFECT MY PRICE. HE SAID IT WOULDN'T AFFECT HIS PRICE.
SO. SO THE ONLY THING JUST TO BE CLEAR HERE, THE ONLY THING THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION CAN DO IS, IS ADJUST THE FAIR MARKET VALUE. THE ASSESSED VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY.
THAT'S THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO ALL I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT TO THE EXTENT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE IN YOUR APPEAL THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ASSESSED VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY THAT'S JUST THE BOARD.
I MEAN, IN 58.13379, IT SAYS WHETHER A SPECIFIC COMPLAINT BE LAID OR NOT.
I MEAN, SO THAT'S A SEPARATE THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.
WELL, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. IF I'M HEARING YOU WRONG, THAT'S FINE. BUT PLEASE, JUST. WELL, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A VACANT LAND MODEL AND AN IMPROVED LAND MODEL.
I THINK THERE'S ONLY AN IMPROVED LAND MODEL RIGHT NOW. OKAY.
IT'S BEING USED ON MINE. OKAY. SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING WHERE YOU THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE ASSESSED VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY, AND YOU HAVE A NEW PROPOSED ASSESSED VALUE FOR YOUR PROPERTY, AND WHY, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
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BUT IF IT IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.AS AS FAR AS, LIKE HOW THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE MODIFIES THINGS.
OH, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. I'M ACTUALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE ASSESSED VALUES.
OKAY. SO I THINK WE'RE TALKING PAST EACH OTHER.
NO WE'RE NOT. I GET IT I MEAN, I GET IT. IS IT IN ORDER TO MAKE A MOTION? YES. TO MAKE THE LAND VALUE 7 TO 8. TOTAL ASSESSMENT BEFORE 28 FIVE.
IS THAT CORRECT, JASON? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LAND VALUE BE PUT AT 72 EIGHT.
HOUSE VALUE 34944. IF I'M READING THAT RIGHT.
494 346 I THINK IT IS FOUR TO A TOTAL OF 428 FIVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE.
ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY. WHICH ONE DO I WANT TO GO TO NEXT? WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO GO TO? NOW EVERYONE Y'ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE ONE I'LL GO TO.
IS THAT THE GENTLEMAN THAT. IS THAT ONE OF YOUR OWNERS? YES. IS THAT THE ONE YOU WAS EXPECTING? YOU WANT TO GO ON TO HIS.
THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN KEEP UP THE SAME JIZZ. I MEAN HE'S LITERALLY MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
I WILL HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF FROM THIS HEARING.
ERIC CRAWFORD, OUR ALTERNATE, WILL BE TAKING MY PLACE IN THIS HEARING.
I WILL STILL LEAD THE PROCEEDINGS, BUT I WILL HAVE NO COMMENTS.
SO IS THIS A GAVEL TO THE SECRETARY? YES I AM, YES.
YEAH. 3410 IS THE ADDRESS. AND WHAT IS THE ADDRESS? 3410 LINDBERGH COURT. 3410 LINDBERGH. OKAY. AND THIS IS JOHN MORGAN.
MORGAN. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
YOU CAN STILL COMMENT. JUST NOT VOTE. YES. OKAY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO, ARE YOU DOING THIS FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR SOMETHING? YES, I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY JUST DON'T COMMENT.
THEN DON'T PARTICIPATE. I WASN'T GOING TO COMMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THE BACK END OF HIS PROPERTY IS COVERED IN WETLANDS, ALMOST TWO ACRES OF WETLANDS.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE GOT 10% OFF, TOO. AND HE'S MORE ENCUMBERED BY THE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT BECAUSE HE'S ON A CORNER. HE GETS IT FROM THIS WAY AND THIS WAY.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHOULD DESERVE 40%, IT'S HIM.
AND THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE HE'S ON ANOTHER CORNER, BUT YET THEY'RE NOT APPLIED LIKE THAT AND THERE'S NOTHING TAKEN OFF OF WETLANDS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. ALMOST 30% OF HIS PROPERTY IS ENCUMBERED BY SOME SORT OF ISSUE, AND HE GOT 10% TAKEN OFF. SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK HOW LONG THAT RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT IS ON HIS PROPERTY.
OKAY. WE'LL HAVE PRINCE GEORGE RESPOND. SO JUST TO MAINTAIN EQUITY LOCALIZED, I THINK WE CAN PROPOSE.
SORRY, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE GET OUT OF GIS ALTOGETHER AND GET BACK IN AS YOU GO TO THE BASE MAP, I SEE A LOT OF THEM OUT COMPLETELY. I'LL DO THAT NEXT.
OKAY. AND THE PROPERTY TO THE, I GUESS TO THE NORTH OF THIS LOT 16, I BELIEVE IT WAS I APPEALED, I APPEALED ALL MY, YOU KNOW, STUFF TOGETHER.
I REPRESENTED MY, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS DOING THE APPEAL.
DURING THAT APPEAL, THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD ANY KIND OF CONSIDERABLE CHANGE WAS THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH OF MR. MORGAN. HE GOT 38% TAKEN OFF FROM BEING ZERO.
AND THEN WE GET 10%. WHAT? BASED ON HE DOES HAVE MORE.
SO I WOULD SAY 0.7, WHAT WOULD BE REASONABLE WITH THE SAME RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT OF 0.8? IF WE WERE TO APPLY THAT TO THE LAND, THE LAND WOULD BE 62,000 600, WHICH IS
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DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO. LESS THAN IT WAS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2019, 2019.IT WAS ACTUALLY 66. IT WOULD BE A HAIR LOWER THAN THAT.
AND WHAT WAS THE REAL RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT THING THAT YOU PUT ON IT? .2.2, WHEN HE'S GOT MORE THAN THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET AT 0.35, HE'S GOT MORE THAN ANYBODY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE MOST DOES IT DOES HIS LIABILITY TO TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE INCREASE.
I DON'T THINK IT DOES. THAT WOULD BE THAT'S FINE.
BUT IT WOULD BE MY ORDER TO EQUALIZE EVERYBODY ELSE.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT JASON'S GETTING NOTICED.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT? IS IT PER PER LINEAR FOOT OF ROADWAY? THAT'S WHAT I DID. I DID THE 25 ACTUAL IMPACT.
WHAT DO YOU PAY COMPARED TO THE NEXT GUY? WHAT IS THE AGREEMENT OR HOW DO YOU HOW DO Y'ALL WORK THAT? WHAT IS YOUR COST FOR THE ROADWAY VERSUS MAINTENANCE VERSUS THE NEIGHBOR? WELL, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG ONE PRETTY SOON. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S NOT SPELLED OUT ANYWHERE. OWENS I MEAN, HE'S GOT MORE IMPACT BY THAT ROAD.
NOW, WHEN WE GO AND WE DECIDE TO REPAVE EVERYTHING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
IS IT GOING TO BE BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT'S IMPACTED? IS WHAT I DON'T KNOW. NOW THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE NOW.
YIKES. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE LITIGATION. SOUNDS LIKE A BIG PROBLEM.
YEAH. COMING UP. SO I THINK THAT GIVING THE 0.7 IS REASONABLE FOR THE AMOUNT OF WETLANDS, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT HAVE 35% FOR NO WETLANDS.
YEAH. SO IT'S POINT TAKEN THAT LIKE GLOBAL EQUALIZATION ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY.
IS THERE ISSUES IN THERE? I'M WORRIED ABOUT MINE AND MY NEIGHBORS.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND WHAT'S TAKEN OFF FOR THE WETLANDS, YOU SAID .7.7, 30%.
AND WHAT'S FOR THE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT? 20%.
SO HE'S GETTING ACTUALLY 50% OFF. YEAH. AND I'M AT YOUR MERCY.
I'M JUST POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS. BUT BUT GOING BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION FROM THE LAST IS THAT.
THAT'S AROUND US. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE FAIR.
BARRING THAT. BARRING THAT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. SOME THINGS LOOK OUT OF LINE IN YOUR OPINION.
BASED ON WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. WELL, YOU CAN ASK OWNER HIMSELF OR NOT.
IT'S CERTAINLY BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS. YEAH. YEAH.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES. AT WHAT WHAT ARE THOSE FIGURES, JASON? 62,600 ON THE LAND. AND WOULD YOU MAKE THE TOTAL FOR 63,400? DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? SECOND. SECOND BY MR. EVERETT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? IT WILL PASS.
THE NEW ASSESSMENT ON HIS PROPERTY WILL BE FOUR, SIX, THREE, FOUR.
OKAY. TRISTAN, YOU HAVE TWO MORE OF THEM. OKAY.
ONE MINUTE AND LET US ALL GET TOGETHER HERE. NO PROBLEM.
WHERE ARE WE GOING, FISHER? MARK? MATTHEW FISHER OR FRANKLIN? CATHY. ARE YOU BACK, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN? AS SOON AS SHE PASSES A GAVEL, GAVEL IS PASSED BACK TO MARIANNE WHITE.
SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR MISS WHITE IS RESUMED AS THE CHAIR.
AND ERIC IS NOT GOING TO BE VOTING ON THIS ONE SINCE WE HAVE A FULL BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AGAIN.
NO, HE WILL BE, BECAUSE MR. EVERETT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE EXCUSED.
SO MR. EVERETT WILL BE EXCUSED, AND THEN ERIC IS GOING TO BE STEPPING IN.
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SO. OKAY. OKAY. WHAT'S THIS PROPERTY? MR. MCMILLAN, IT'S ONE OF THE FISHERS.WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT TO DO. WELL, GIVE US AN ADDRESS.
I DON'T HAVE THE ADDRESS. I'VE GOT A TAX ID NUMBER, BUT IT WORKS.
HOW ABOUT ONE 205 TWO FIVE? YOU CAN DO 200 IF YOU WANT.
AND THEN WE CAN DO 210 LATER. YEAH. THAT'S FINE.
MATTHEW FISHER ENDING IN TWO. 152. WHAT? ONE.
FIVE. TWO. THREE. FIVE. EXCUSE ME, MADAM CHAIR, FOR CLARIFICATION.
IS MR. EVERETT RECUSING HIMSELF FOR BOTH FISHERS? YES. HE WILL BE EXCUSING HIMSELF FOR BOTH FISHERS.
YES. TO GO TAKE A BUSINESS CALL. YEAH. POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
IT'S NOT A RECUSAL. HE HAS ANOTHER APPOINTMENT.
YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO NOW. OKAY. SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND STEP OUT.
MR. EVERETT, IF YOU NEED TO. JUST THAT WAY, MR. EVERETT PREFERS, EVEN THOUGH HE'LL BE HERE FOR SOME OF THE HEARING.
HE PREFERS NOT TO BE HERE. HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE HERE FOR THE FINAL HEARING FOR THE FINAL VOTE.
VOTE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE THIS ONE PULLED UP ON THE MAP.
MATTHEW FISHER. YES, I BELIEVE IT'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
ALL RIGHT. AND THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME, SAME ISSUE.
WEREN'T PUT A LANE INFLUENCE FACTOR OF ANYTHING ON UNTIL IT WAS APPEALED.
AND THEN I THINK IT WAS 10% TAKEN OFF. YOU KNOW RIGHT NEXT DOOR IS ONE OF THOSE NEW HOUSES THAT HAVE 35% TAKEN OFF. SO I ASKED FOR 35% TAKEN OFF TO BE IN LINE WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
FOR THE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT. IT'S A SMALLER LOT.
IS, IS. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPACTED 5%. WHEREAS THE MR. JB'S HOUSE THAT HAS 35 IS ONLY 4% BASED ON ITS ACREAGE.
SO IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW, IMPACTED AND IT'S HAD ZERO RESTRICTIVE EASEMENTS ON IT.
RESTRICTIVE LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS I SHOULD SAY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO BASED UPON DOING THE SAME 20% FOR RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT.
YEAH, AND I AGREE ABOUT THE WETLANDS ON THAT.
I MEAN, I'M I'M JUST UP HERE BARKING ABOUT THE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT.
YEAH. SO I GUESS THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS 60,900 FOR THE LAND.
YOU KNOW, BASED ON 20% RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT. AND IT HAD IT PREVIOUSLY HAD, LIKE ONLY 5% REDUCTION.
SO. AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE ONE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH HAS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, 35 I BELIEVE HE SAID IT WAS WELL, ACTUALLY, IT'S TO THE SOUTH.
IT'S GOING TO BE MR. JB RIGHT THERE. OKAY. YEAH, THAT ONE HAS A 35%.
SO WE DID 20 OVER HERE. WE DID 20 DOWN THERE.
SO IF WE WERE JUST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, EVEN THOUGH THE, THE YOU KNOW, THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT AREN'T BEING, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT UP OR WHATEVER 20% WOULD BE WHAT I SEE.
SO. THAT WOULD BRING HIS LAND 60,900. YES, MA'AM.
IMPROVEMENTS STAY THE SAME. YES, MA'AM. MAKE A TOTAL OF 409 900.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD? I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LAND BE ASSESSED AT 60,900, FOR A TOTAL OF 499. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSITION?
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SO IF YOU CAN LET MR. FISCHER KNOW THAT HIS ASSESSMENT ON LAND AND WHAT HIS TOTAL ASSESSMENT IS.MR. MCMILLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL ALSO MAIL EVERYBODY A NOTICE.
EXCUSE ME, MADAM CHAIR. WHO SAID HE DID THAT? MR.. MR. PERRY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WHAT'S THE NEXT PROPERTY? IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONE JUST TO THE SOUTH. IT'S GOING TO BE HIS MOTHER.
TWO. FIVE. SEVEN. KATHY FISHER FRANKLIN AND KATHY FISHER.
YEAH. SO 57I THINK. LET ME SEE. BASED ON LET ME DO THIS I'M GOING TO DO 0.95 WETLAND. TO MAKE IT. THAT MUCH BETTER. SO IF WE WERE TO DO THE SAME THING 20% RESTRICTED EASEMENT 0.95 WETLANDS.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S KIND OF QUESTIONABLE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THERE WOULD MAKE IT 60,200.
BUT BASICALLY, I THINK ALMOST THE SAME AS THE LAST ONE.
AND THE TOTAL WOULD BE THREE, 78, 600. IT LOOKS LIKE FROM WHAT I'M SEEING HERE OF MY PAPERWORK, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE ONE ADJUSTMENT THIS YEAR ON THAT.
IT WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS? YES. YEAH.
OKAY. I APPEALED. WE'RE MAKING ANOTHER. I BELIEVE FIVE OF THEM AND FOUR OF US ARE HERE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNTY REVISION? MR. MCMILLAN, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. I NEED A VOTE FROM THE BOARD TO CHANGE THE LAND VALUE DOWN TO 60,200. FOR TOTAL VALUE OF THE LAND TO BE 378,600.
SECOND, A SECOND SECONDED DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR BY SAYING AYE.
AYE AYE. ALL RIGHT. THE COFFEE BREAK. I THINK THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU, MR. MCMILLAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A GOOD DAY.
Y'ALL, DO Y'ALL HAVE A BUSY DAY LEFT? WHAT'S GOING ON NOW? DID SUSSKIND KNOW YOU DIDN'T SHOW UP? THERE WAS AN EMAIL IN THE FILE THAT SAID THEY THOUGHT HE HAD SAID.
HE HAD SAID YEAH, YEAH, AND HE WASN'T GOING TO MAKE IT.
THAT'S GOOD. IT MEANS THAT WE TAKE A COFFEE BREAK.
YEAH, WE BETTER TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT EXPECT AT 11:00 TO BE HERE YET.
WELL, ADJOURNED FOR A 15 MINUTE BREAK. OH, GOD.
I'D LIKE TO RECONVENE THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION HEARING FROM THE BRIEF BREAK THAT WE'VE HAD.
IS THERE ANYTHING THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS PRIOR TO US GOING AND THEIR FIRST.
CANNOT COME RIGHT ON UP, MAN. AND IF YOU'LL BE SURE AND SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
YOU CAN LOWER IT. YOU CAN TWIST IT DOWN TOWARD YOUR MAN.
YEAH. I NEED YOU TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE YOUR FULL NAME.
EDDIE LINCOLN TYPES. DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, MA'AM. GO RIGHT AHEAD.
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. YES. WHEN I HAD GOT MY TAX ASSESSMENT, MY HOUSE WAS VALUED AT $105,200.
THAT WAS AN INCREASE. IT INCREASED TO 216,000 FOR THE YEAR 2026, WHICH WAS $111,300 INCREASE AND A 1550 7.17% INCREASE, WHICH ACTUALLY DOUBLED.
I APPEALED IT AND IT TOOK IT DOWN TO 168,700, WHICH MADE IT 63,500 WITH A
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31.22 INCREASE. THIS IS A DOUBLE WIDE OR A MANUFACTURED DOUBLE WIDE HOME ON A BRICK FOUNDATION.I ONLY PAID 4995 FOR THE HOUSE WITH THE DECKS, THE BRICK FOUNDATION.
IT ONLY CAME TO $63,000. AND THIS WAS 23 YEARS AGO WHEN I PURCHASED IT.
THERE'S BEEN NO ADDITIONS, NO ADD ONS TO THE HOUSE.
TO THE HOME. EVEN WITH A PILL IN IT. AND THEY DID REDUCE IT.
IT WAS A STILL $63,500 TOO HIGH. WHAT HAS CAUSED THIS HOUSE TO GO UP IN 23 YEARS? A MANUFACTURED HOME SHOULD BE DECREASE IN VALUE, NOT INCREASE.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE INTERNET. I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE IN DEALING WITH THE INTERNET.
AND FIRST OF ALL, WHY WOULD I WANT TO GO IN HERE AND SEARCH WHAT SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY IS, WHAT THEIR VALUE IS? I DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS.
I DON'T PAY THEIR TAXES. THEIR PROPERTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MINE.
I'VE GOT THREE AND $400,000 HOMES ON MY ROAD.
I DON'T LIVE IN A THREE $400,000 HOME. IS THAT IT, MA'AM? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M I'M BASING IT ON WHAT I FEEL.
I MEAN, WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, AND THAT'S FINE.
I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE COUNTY AND DIVISION. FOR REBUTTAL.
YES. IT WAS BOUGHT IN 2020, 2002. I MEAN, JUST AS AN ASIDE, I MEAN, MAN, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONE, PLEASE? MY APOLOGIES.
JUST AN ASIDE. MANUFACTURED HOME, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE REAL ESTATE DO APPRECIATE VALUE.
BUT THEY APPRECIATE FASTER THAN THEY THEY DO.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU MAKE THEM REAL ESTATE, PUT THEM ON FOUNDATION.
THAT BEING SAID. YEAH. MISTER APPRECIATION ON THAT.
JASON. I DON'T HERE'S THE HERE'S THE RECORD. JASON.
MICROPHONE, PLEASE. SO ON YOUR SCREEN HERE IS THE THE RECORD.
WE HAVE IT LISTED AS IN FAIR CONDITION. SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW.
IT'S GETTING 23% DEPRECIATION. AND IT'S GRADED AS A D WHICH WITHIN THE POPULATION WE SAW YESTERDAY, MOST OF THEM ARE D'S OR E'S IN THE COUNTY.
THE GROUPING OF OTHER MANUFACTURED HOMES WE DID HAVE HERE IS AGAIN THE TABLE WE SAW YESTERDAY OF THE SALES GOING BACK TO 2018. TIME ADJUSTED SORTED BY STYLE CODE.
SO VISION HAS LABELED THE MANUFACTURED HOMES AS MANUFACTURED HOME.
WE HAD 38 SALES. THE MEDIAN WAS AT 4%. WHICH IS ACTUALLY OKAY, LOWER THAN THE OVERALL FOR THE COUNTY. AND SO ON THE FACE OF IT.
I DON'T SEE WHERE IT'S OVER ASSESSED. FOR THE BUILDING PART.
I WAS BEFORE YOU ASKED A QUESTION. I WAS GETTING READY TO LOOK INTO THE LAND PART OF IT.
JOHN, COULD YOU HELP? OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I DO HAVE AGAIN, THIS IS THE TABLE, AND THEN THIS IS OF THE 38 SALES THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND. AND THIS AGAIN, COMES FROM THE FROM THE REASSESSMENT.
I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, FROM THE THE LOCAL MLS. AND SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IN HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE SALES, THERE'S SOME NEWER ONES, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE FROM HER TIME RANGE, YOU KNOW, 1999, 2007, 2001, 1979. SO THERE'S A GOOD MIX OF SALES IN HERE.
THEY'RE NOT ALL NEW. HERS IS AMONG THE BIGGER UNITS.
IT'S US, IT'S US. MA'AM. IT'S NOT YOU. OH HERS IS 2000FT².
SO IT IS A BIG ONE. BIG UNIT. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND SOME SALES THAT ARE SIMILAR SIZE.
HERE'S ONE THAT SEE HERE, 2100 SQUARE FOOT, 2003 MODEL ON
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FIVE ACRES. AND? YOU SEE THE SAME PRICE.SO FOR $100 A SQUARE FOOT. THIS ONE HAPPENED TO SELL FOR.
I THINK AROUND 218. BUT THERE ARE OTHERS, SO.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY REASONABLE IN LIGHT OF THE WHOLE GROUP OF SALES.
AND SO THE BUILDING PART, I THINK IS PROBABLY OKAY.
LET ME LOOK AT THE LAND ON THE SCREEN YOU HAVE.
HERE IS HER PARCEL. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ACCESSED OFF OF A DIRT GRAVEL ROAD.
IS THAT CORRECT? LIKE A FARM? FARM ROAD? SORT OF.
YES. WE COULD LOOK AT THE LAND. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SOME WETLANDS, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY, LIKE, ACCESS. IT HAS SWAMP LAND ON IT, AND I DON'T HAVE A EASEMENT.
I HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY RIGHT AWAY. OKAY. OKAY.
SO IT HAS 20% WETLAND ADJUSTMENT. LET ME. LET ME PULL THAT.
LET ME LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. LET ME PULL UP THE WETLANDS REAL QUICK.
BEING ON THAT PARCEL. OKAY, THERE IT IS WITH THE WETLANDS.
LET ME TURN THE WETLANDS ON. ARE YOU WETLANDS? WETLANDS. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME AT THE FRONT.
KIND OF NEAR HER DRIVEWAY. YEAH. AND POSSIBLY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS. THIS DOTTED LINE. MAYBE THAT'S AN ACCESS WAY.
THERE'S A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE DRIVEWAY.
GOING DOWN FURTHER INTO THE ROAD TO THE SWAMP.
OKAY. IS THAT THE FRONT? DO YOU HAVE A POWER LINE THAT RUNS ACROSS YOUR FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY OR ANYTHING? YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE A POWER LINE THERE IS THERE A POWER LINE? THERE IS A POWER LINE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. IT COMES UP. THERE IT IS.
COMES THROUGH THERE A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. YEAH.
YEAH. YEAH. IT'S A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT POWER LINE.
OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO I THINK THE WETLANDS ADJUSTMENT IS IS 20%, WHICH I THINK IS REASONABLE.
THE POWER LINE IS JUST REGULAR RESIDENTIAL DISTRIBUTION.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE HOT, YOU KNOW, HIGH POWER MULTIPLE LINE.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE SINGLE POLE. COULD I GET YOU TO GO BACK TO THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR A SECOND? YES, SIR. I BELIEVE YOU SAID 23% DEPRECIATION.
I DON'T KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT THE VALUATION OF MOBILE PHONES AS I DO OTHER THINGS, BUT.
I THINK I MEAN TYPICALLY IT'S, IT'S CHRONOLOGICAL AGE.
STRAIGHT LINE DEPRECIATION 50 YEARS. IS THAT METHODOLOGY OUT THE WINDOW HERE.
I MEAN ARE WE JUST USING A 1% DEPRECIATION ON MOBILE HOMES? I COULD FIGURE THAT OUT. IT'D TAKE ME ABOUT 2 OR 3 MINUTES.
YOU KNOW, IF MY STICK BUILT HOUSE IS DEPRECIATING 2% A YEAR.
WHY IS THE MOBILE HOME ONLY DEPRECIATING 1%? IF THAT IS THE CASE, IT MAY NOT BE MR. TORELLO OR SEAN. I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT, I THINK.
ARE THEY STILL ON? YES, I BELIEVE SO. SEAN? SEAN! HE'S TALKING. WE CAN'T HEAR HIM AT ALL. MISTER WINFREY, TO YOUR POINT.
IF WE'RE DEPRECIATING ANNUALLY IS A $68,000 INCREASE IN IMPROVEMENTS YEAR OVER YEAR.
WELL, IT CERTAINLY DID THAT. THAT COMES INTO QUESTION.
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ABSOLUTELY. I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. IS IT CHANGED? DID IT CAUSE, YOU KNOW, 142 TO TURN INTO TWO, EIGHT, NINE, FIVE.AS FAR AS THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE. IT HAPPENS, I GET IT.
SOMETIMES YOU PICK UP SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS THERE OR THE CORRECTION OF SOME SORT OF ERROR, BUT THAT I THINK WE'D ALL AGREE THAT IT'S GREATER THAN MARKET GROWTH A LITTLE BIT. WELL, WELL OKAY. SO A LOT OF THINGS WERE SAID.
LET'S JUST GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION. ON THE SCREEN YOU SEE HERE MANUFACTURED HOMES.
THEY'RE POINTING AT DEPRECIATION TABLE NUMBER FOUR.
YOU SEE THAT? AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE OTHER HOUSES LIKE THE OTHER STYLE CODES IN THE COUNTY, LIKE THE RANCHES, THE DWELLINGS, THE SPLIT LEVEL COLONIAL CAPE CARDS ARE ALSO POINTING TO NUMBER FOUR.
SO THEY'RE ON THIS. THEY'RE ON THE SAME TABLE.
THAT'S THE AND I CAN HOLD UP DEPRECIATION. TABLE NUMBER FOUR IS 1% PER YEAR.
THERE. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THEY ARE BUT THEY ARE ALSO GRADED, GRADED DOWN.
AND THEY MAY ALSO HAVE A DIFFERENT BASE RATE.
LET ME EXAMINE THAT. THEY COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT STARTING POINT ON THEIR BASE RATE.
SO THEY DO HAVE AN ADJUSTED BASE RATE. SO THEY HAVE A LOWER STARTING POINT.
SO THE OTHER COUNTIES, THE REST OF THE HOUSES ARE AT LIKE 150 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LET ME FIGURE THAT OUT SO I CAN KNOW. YEAH. SO THAT SO SO THEY HAVE THE SAME DEPRECIATION TABLE, BUT THEY HAVE A LOWER GOING IN RATE. SO THEY ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
AND AGAIN THE RESULTS AT LEAST ON THESE 38 SALES SEEM TO BE REASONABLE.
YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THOSE AS A GROUP. GO AHEAD.
I'M SORRY. YOU MAY BE CALLING ONE. TRY TO CALL US.
OKAY, OKAY, I CAN I CAN PHONE A FRIEND IF YOU WANT.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL VALUED EVEN AFTER IT'S BEEN ADJUSTED.
SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH TO ME FOR WE DO NOT HAVE HER REAL ESTATE CARD.
CAN YOU PULL UP THE HISTORY ON THE MOBILE HOME? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. DO DO DO DO DO DO. ASSESSMENT.
HISTORY. SO IT WAS 184 IN 2023 IS 166 AND THEN 2005. 2004 184.
166 2023. SO. ONE 6180 AND THEN THAT'S A TEN ROUGHLY 37% INCREASE. AND THAT IS FOR THE HOUSE AND THE LAND.
CORRECT? YES. THE LAND ACTUALLY HAS IT WAS 64, 73.
SO THE LAND AT ITS CURRENT RATE DIDN'T GROW UP THAT MUCH.
IT'S MOSTLY ON THE HOUSE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THE HOUSE. THE HOUSE ACTUALLY NEEDS A NEW ROOF ON IT.
AND I NEED A NEW FLOORING IN IT THAT I'M TRYING TO GET DONE.
HOW? AND YOU KEEP SAYING WHAT OTHER HOMES ARE VALUED AT? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OTHER HOMES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MINE.
WHY CAN'T SOMEONE COME OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THE HOUSE IF THEY WANT TO ASSESS THAT? YOU WEREN'T ABOUT TO. OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT MINE. I'M TALKING ABOUT MINE ALONE.
YES, MA'AM. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'LL DO IT IN TWO PARTS.
AND WE HAVE TO USE THE OTHER SALES AS EVIDENCE.
SO WE HAVE TO BE IMPARTIAL TRIERS OF FACT. AND WE'RE CONSIDERING THE SALES.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU HAVE CONDITION RELATED ISSUES WHICH WE SHOULD EXPLORE.
SO YOU SAID IT NEEDS A NEW ROOF. YES. ITS ROOF IS 23 YEARS OLD.
SO IT'S A IT'S NEAR AT THE END OF ITS LIFE. YEAH.
AND CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE FLOORING? CAN YOU ELABORATE? THE FLOORING IS FROM WHERE I HAD WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOME.
IT HAD COPPER PIPES PUT ON IT. AND THEY HAD OUTLAWED THOSE COPPER PIPES.
AND ABOUT A FEW YEARS AGO, I HAD SAVED UP THE MONEY TO GET ALL PVC PIPE PUT IN BUT ALL THAT WATER.
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SOMETIMES YOU'D BE THERE, SOMETIMES YOU WOULDN'T.AND IT ONE PIPE ON THIS THING WOULD BREAK. ONE WOULD BREAK ON THIS END.
I HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES OF THE PIPES BUSTING.
SO ALL THAT HAS GOT WET NOW, MY PRESS BOARD. I DON'T HAVE FOUNDATION ISSUES, BUT I MY PRESS BOARD, I'VE GOT TO REPLACE ALL THAT. PUT NEW TILE, ALL THAT IN.
OKAY. SO YOU HAVE SOME DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DONE BUT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.
RIGHT. OKAY. MA'AM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO OVER HERE? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE RIGHT OF WAY? JUST A BIT.
IS IT A DEEDED RIGHT OF WAY? IS IT UNDERSTOOD? IS IT WITH AN ADJOINING LANDOWNER? IT'S WITH ADJOINING LANDOWNER.
MY DAD GOT HAD A RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH HIS FATHER WHEN HE BOUGHT THE LAND IN 66.
IN 2002, WHEN MY DAD DEEDED ME THE FIVE ACRES OF LAND, I HAD TO GO TO HIS SON, TO HIS TWO SONS, BECAUSE HIS TWO SONS OWNED IT SINCE HIS FATHER HAD PASSED.
SO I HAD TO GET A DEEDED RIGHT AWAY. I DON'T OWE THE ROAD FRONTAGE THERE.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT PASSES THROUGH ONE PROPERTY.
AND THEN SHE HAS TO PASS THROUGH THE LAND OF PAUL COTTON OWNS IT.
YEAH. MR. COTTON. WELL, IT'S WAYNE AND THOMAS COTTON NOW, MISS ABERNATHY, MISS WHITE, THAT THAT, TO ME, WOULD WARRANT A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT ADJUSTMENT AS WELL, WOULDN'T IT? I AGREE. I AGREE. SO I WOULD SAY BEFORE YOU GO ANY FARTHER JASON, CAN I JUST ASK HER A QUESTION? DO YOU HAVE THAT IN WRITING ON YOUR DEED? YOU DO. IT IS. YES. AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST AN AGREEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN MY DEED. IT'S. I HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER FOR THAT.
YEAH. ROAD MAINTENANCE? YEAH. A WHAT? A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
NO. OKAY. SO IS IT DIRT? IS IT JUST LIKE A DIRT ROAD? YES. GRAVEL ROAD. DIRT. THERE'S NO GRAVEL. NO.
I HAD SOME ROCK PUT IN THERE YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S MAINLY DIRT.
OKAY. DEFINITELY. THAT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE. SO.
I THINK FROM WHAT SHE'S TELLING ME, I THINK 10% FOR THE WORKFORCE.
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. GIVEN THE INSIGHT THAT IT'S ALREADY CONSIDERED FAIR, YOU FOLLOW ME, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU IT'S NOT FIVE. IT SHOULDN'T BE 30, SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND 15 WOULD BE REASONABLE FOR THE SO BECAUSE ANYBODY WOULD BUY YOUR HOUSE, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A RED FLAG. THEY'D BE LIKE, OKAY, I GOT TO FIX THIS. WHAT'S THE ROOF? THE ROOF IS KIND OF LIKE IT'S ALREADY IN FAIR.
YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO MAKE IT AVERAGE FAIR, I WOULD THINK THAT'D BE A TYPICAL MAINTENANCE ITEM FOR THE ROOF, YOU KNOW? YEAH. SO. BUT IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T LEAK.
CURRENTLY, THERE'S NO ACTIVE LEAKS LIKE WATER INTRUSION.
I DO HAVE A LEAK IN ONE OF THE ROOMS. I HAVE TWO PIECES OF TARP OVER TOP OF IT RIGHT NOW.
TWO PIECES OF ART. SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE THIS 20, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T.
YOU COULDN'T GET A LOAN ON IT. PEOPLE WOULDN'T TOUCH IT, I THINK, UNTIL IT WAS FIXED.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE REASONABLE WAS 20% FOR THE RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT, 10 OR 20 AND 20% ON THE DEPRECIATION. AND LATER, WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
AND THAT WOULD MAKE THE VALUE 183 WOULD ACTUALLY BE PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT WAS IN 2024.
OR SLIGHT INCREASE FROM 166 TO 23. IT WAS 166 AND 24 WAS 180 416.
WOULD YOU BACK OFF THOSE 20% INCREASES TO 15 ON THE DEPRECIATION ON THE HOUSE.
YEAH OKAY. POSSIBLY THE THE LAND. YEAH. BECAUSE ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S FINE. IF WE MADE THAT 15 AND THEN WE DID THIS.
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THAT WOULD MAKE IT 198 EVEN. THAT'S TAKEN IT UP, ISN'T IT? NO, IT'S BRINGING IT DOWN. IT'S STILL FROM THE OLD ASSESSMENT IS STILL UP, BUT IT WAS DOWN FROM THE THE PREVIOUS NOTICE YOU GOT IN THE MAIL.OKAY. WHEN IT IS THAT OVERALL MR. CALENDAR IS THAT COULD YOU BREAK IT DOWN FOR HER.
SO CURRENT ASSESSMENT IS 168 SEVEN BUILDING 73 LAND FOR A TOTAL VALUATION OF 241 SEVEN.
AND THIS WOULD BE A REDUCTION TO 198 TOTAL. SO IT'S A REDUCTION.
FORGIVE ME FOR BACK OF THE NAPKIN. BACK IN THE NAPKIN.
MATH, $57,000. ROUGHLY BALLPARK IT.
SO THAT WOULD MAKE THE LAND AT THE THE LAND WOULD BE 62,000, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LOWER, A SMIDGE LOWER THAN IT WAS IN 2021 AND 22 AND 23.
SO, OKAY, SO THE LAND IS 62 AND THAT WOULD MAKE HER IMPROVEMENT.
135 NINE IS THAT THE LAND GOING UP? 62 162 100.
YES, SIR. GOOD POINT. GOOD CATCH. IT'S THE LAND COMING DOWN.
THE LAND IS GOING DOWN. THE BUILDING IS GOING DOWN.
YES. OKAY. AND IT IS COMING DOWN TO WHAT? WELL THEY HAVEN'T.
WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT ACTION.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND. RECOMMENDATION FROM WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOUR LAND WOULD BE AT 62, 100.
AND YOUR HOME WOULD BE AT ONE 35,900. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. COWAN? YES, MA'AM. FOR A TOTAL OF 198. AND THAT BRINGS IT DOWN FROM 241 TO 198. AND THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT NOTICE WAS 2.95.
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. OH, THE ORIGINAL REASSESSMENT NOTICE WAS FOR 28952895.
WOW. YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? SECOND. SECOND.
YES. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF AYE. AYE AYE.
OPPOSED? SO YOUR NEW ASSESSMENT, DID YOU GET IT? 62 ONE FOR THE LAND. 135 NINE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO A TOTAL IS 198. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. NO PROBLEM. YOU HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
I DON'T HAVE HIS TAX RECORD EITHER. MR. EVERETT, ARE YOU READY TO RESUME? YES. OKAY.
MR. EVERETT IS BACK ON THE BOE HEARINGS. MR. CRAWFORD HAS GONE BACK TO BEING AN ALTERNATE.
STEVEN BRITTON. CAN YOU PULL UP HIS TAX RECORDS? WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. YES, MA'AM. IT'S ON YOUR SCREEN.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. SIR. CAN YOU STATE YOUR FULL NAME? MY NAME IS STEVEN TYLER BRITTON. TEN WHITE HAND, PLEASE.
YEP. DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? I DO, ALL RIGHT, SIR. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO JUST A BRIEF RECAP. WE WERE SENT A AN ORIGINAL MAILING IN MARCH ABOUT THE CHANGE OF ASSESSMENT.
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OKAY. AND IN THAT LETTER, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE AN INFORMAL REVIEW WITH THE COUNTY'S REPRESENTATIVE.WHICH I DID. I MET WITH MR. EVAN PEARCE ON THE 27TH OF MARCH, AND WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL FACTORS OF CONTAINING THE MARKET AND MY PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR. AND AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION WENT ALL THE DETAILS, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
BUT WE AGREED TO A NEW ASSESSMENT OF 411,000 ON MY PREVIOUS ASSESSMENT IS LIKE 399.
SO THAT CONVERSATION WENT WELL. AND THEN THE NEXT THING I GOT IN THE MAIL WAS A REASSESSMENT NOTICE, AND THE NUMBER WAS AT $446,000, WHICH WAS NOT CONSISTENT AT ALL WITH OUR CONVERSATION.
SO I CALLED INTO THE ASSESSMENT OFFICE AND I SAID, HEY, THIS DOESN'T LINE UP.
WHAT CAN I DO? AND THEY SAID, YOU MUST SUBMIT AN APPEAL NOTICE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE THIS MORNING. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HEARING ME.
AND IN THAT APPEAL PROCESS, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO SUPPLY SOME DATA.
SO I DID PULL SOME COMPARABLE SALES FROM THE AREA.
EQUAL ACREAGES EQUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OR VERY CLOSE.
AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE SALES PRICE IN THE DOCUMENT.
DID YOU ALL HAVE THIS DOCUMENT SUPPLIED IN YOUR PACKET? YES, SIR. AND IF YOU LOOKED AT AN AVERAGE OF THOSE FOUR SALES IT'S ABOUT 199, LET'S SAY $200 A SQUARE FOOT FOR COMPARABLE PROPERTIES. AND IF YOU EXTEND THAT MATH TO MY PROPERTY, IT IS 411,000.
SO MY PROPOSAL IS TO ASSESS MY PROPERTY. AND CONSISTENT WITH THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH EVAN PEARCE ON THE 27TH OF MARCH AT 411,000. JASON, WHO IS EVAN PEARCE? IS HE WITH VISION? I THINK HE WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF VISION.
I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. HE'S NO LONGER WITH VISION, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
HE WAS, AND I'VE. THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS I'VE HEARD PERSONALLY WHERE MR. PEARCE HAS MET WITH THE WITH THE COUNTY RESIDENT HAD A SIMILAR DISCUSSION AND THE THE CHANGES WERE NOT MADE.
MADE BACK TO THE COUNTY. JOHN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING HE JUST CONFIRMED? OKAY. I THINK MR.. IF WE CAN CAN YOU TYPE TYPE WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SEAN ON OR AND WE'LL TALK.
WHATEVER. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, UNFORTUNATELY. NOW CAN YOU CALL.
CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THEM. WE'LL CALL YOU A SECOND. OKAY. SHAUN.
WHAT A WASTE OF TIME. DID YOU GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AT ALL TO RELAY THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH MR. PIERCE? YES, I WHEN I GOT THE SUBSEQUENT LETTER IN APRIL, MAY TIME FRAME, I CALLED INTO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, AND THE YOUNG LADY WAS VERY POLITE AND JUST SAID, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO AT THIS POINT IS THE APPEAL PROCESS.
SO I DID TRY. I SAID, I REALLY DON'T NEED AN APPEAL PROCESS.
I WANT THE INFORMAL REVIEW ONE MORE TIME. AND SHE SAID, MAKE THE APPEAL.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. THANK YOU SIR. GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE MR. CURLEY FROM VISION. OKAY.
MR. CURLEY, YOU CAN SPEAK. OKAY. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. WE HAVE A MICROPHONE UP TO THE PHONE. OH, GREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE SOME OF THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WE'RE HAVING.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE MICROPHONE ISN'T ISN'T WORKING ON OUR TEAMS. IN ANY CASE, I WANTED TO JUST BRIEFLY COMMENT ON ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE EMPLOYEE WHO WAS REFERENCED IN THE GENTLEMAN'S OPENING REMARKS. SO EVAN PIERCE IS A IS A FORMER EMPLOYEE.
MR. PIERCE WAS TERMINATED BY VISION FOR CAUSE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF, YOU KNOW, OUR EMPLOYEE EMPLOYMENT, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE WITH MR. PIERCE. I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, THAT I THINK IT WAS MR. MURPHY WHO PERHAPS COMMENTED ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT TAXPAYERS HAD WITH MR. PIERCE. YOU KNOW, LONG STORY SHORT, I THINK THE THERE WERE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS THAT MR. PEARCE HAD WITH SOME TAXPAYERS THAT WERE NOT APPROVED BY A SUPERVISOR AND WERE NOT REFLECTIVE OF SORT OF THE POINT OF VIEW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COLLECTIVE VISION AND COUNTY TEAMS WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW RECOMMENDED IN CERTAIN PARCEL INSTANCES.
AND SO THAT'S THE CONTEXT, RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CONVERSATION,
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I THINK IS JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE ALL INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION ARE AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, MR. PEARCE HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT HE WAS TERMINATED FOR CAUSE.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON ONE.
LEAVE HIM ON. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. WERE ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHERE THERE'S DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN VISION AND MR. PEARCE RELAYED BACK TO THE CUSTOMER, RELAYED BACK TO THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE, COUNTY RESIDENTS.
SO THEY KNEW THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE NOT APPROPRIATE OR NOT ON BEHALF OF VISION.
IT'S HARD. IT'S HARD TO SORT OF SPEAK TO THAT WITH ANY SORT OF SPECIFICITY.
RIGHT. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DOING LOTS OF INFORMAL REVIEW MEETINGS.
AND SO I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION DIRECTLY. I WILL SAY THAT IN INSTANCES WHERE THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A A DISCREPANCY. WE CERTAINLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAD THOSE COMMUNICATIONS.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU GUYS GOOD? ALL RIGHT. THANK. THANK YOU. SEAN. YEAH. THANKS.
I'LL BE HERE. I'M LISTENING. JUST GIVE ME. GIVE.
YOU KNOW, GIVE US A CALL IF YOU JUST. JASON. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT WHENEVER I'M DOING ANY APPEALS IN ANY PLACE I'VE EVER WORKED IN ANY COUNTY THAT I'VE WORKED IN MANY, MANY PLACES, WE NEVER AGREE. WE NEVER TELL SOMEBODY A NUMBER VERBALLY N TO THEIR FACE.
JUST. IT'S NOT A NEGOTIATION. WE NEVER MAKE A VERBAL STATEMENT.
WHAT MR. PEIRCE DID OR DIDN'T DO, I'M NOT FOR SURE FOR FACT.
BUT WE JUST DON'T DO IT. AND IT'S NOT BINDING UPON THE COUNTY.
WHAT HE SAID. SO IT'S A IT'S A LOSS FOR LIKE, CUSTOMER SERVICE.
BUT WHAT I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD DO IS LIKE WHAT? WHAT IS. WHAT SHOULD IT BE? AND WE'LL JUST TAKE THE LOSS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE, YOU KNOW.
SO SO WE DON'T LIKE I'VE NEVER SAID I'M GOING TO AGREE TO THIS.
AND THIS IS YOUR FINAL NUMBER BECAUSE WE IT TAKES US TIME.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW WE JUST DON'T DO THAT. WE ALWAYS SEND IT IN WRITING. WE ALWAYS SAY WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU WITH IN WRITING, WITH THE RESULTS OF YOUR HEARING IN 4 TO 6 WEEKS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I JUST SAY THAT ALL THE TIME.
SO I DON'T THINK WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN SAID SHOULD BE BINDING UPON US.
JUST JUST ME PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW. SO WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT SHOULD IT BE? YEAH. I MEAN, AT THE END OF OUR CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, HE SAID YOU WILL BE GETTING A NOTICE AND IT WILL REFLECT THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED TODAY. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN I LEFT THAT PHONE CALL, THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT WE WERE HEADED. AND THERE WAS NO FOLLOW UP FROM ANYBODY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION.
OKAY. IF WE CAN JUST ASK YOU A FEW THINGS ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ROAD FRONTAGE? OH, VERY LITTLE.
I'VE GOT JUST ENOUGH FOR THAT DRIVEWAY YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE.
OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY WETLANDS ON YOUR PROPERTY? YES, I DO, I HAVE WETLANDS I'VE GOT A CREEK AROUND THE BACK AND THE LEFT SIDE ARE VERY WET.
YES. MY PARCEL IS NOT SUBDIVIDED ANY FURTHER.
SO HERE'S THE LAND. HAVE THE LAND ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
10% REDUCTION FOR WETLANDS AND 10% FOR ACCESS.
AND THEN HERE IS HIS PARCEL HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE OR.
NO, THIS IS IT. THIS IS. YEAH. OKAY. SORRY. HERE IT IS.
SO HE'S GOT THAT LITTLE FLAG TYPE OF THING. YOU KNOW, KIND OF ON THE EDGES OF THE PROPERTY AND OVER HERE TO THE LEFT, YOU KNOW, IS THE WETLAND SHADED IN GREEN RIGHT HERE.
SO HE HAS 10% FOR ACCESS, 10% FOR WETLANDS.
IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME TO BE MORE THAN TEN. I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON MORE THAN 10% FOR WETLANDS? BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH IT'S IT'S THREE OF THE FOUR SIDES.
LIKE, TO ME, A CREEK AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY IS A PLUS.
IT'S A IT'S A BENEFIT, NOT A NEGATIVE. AND I'VE MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVE TO PROVE THAT FROM AN APPRAISAL STANDPOINT, IF THE WATER MOVES, IT'S TRICKLING, IN. IT'S A PLUS.
IF IT'S STAGNANT, THEN MAYBE IT'S A MINUS. SO I DON'T KNOW THE FACTS ABOUT IT.
SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S WETLAND DOESN'T MEAN IT'S LIKE AN AUTOMATIC DETRIMENTAL POINT.
SO I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO LIKE 20% BUT LIKE 30 OR 40 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. BUT THE ACCESS TO THE HOUSE GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE MAIN PART OF THE WETLANDS.
TO ME, REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL RESTRICTION, BECAUSE IF WE GET RAIN LIKE WE HAD TWO WEEKS AGO,
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I'M SURE THREE WEEKS AGO, I'M SURE THIS GENTLEMAN MAY HAVE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING THROUGH UP AND DOWN THE DRIVEWAY. YEP.ABOUT 25, 25% BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT DOES IT DOES IMPACT LIKE WHERE HE HAS TO DRIVE AND IT COULD WASH OUT, YOU KNOW. AND IT DEFINITELY COULD. IT COULD BE IT COULD BE A HEADACHE FAST.
SO COULD GET STUCK RIGHT AS IT PULLS IN HIS DRIVEWAY.
RIGHT. SO THEN IF WE DID, IF WE WERE TO DO 25, SO THEN LIKE THE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ASIDE.
THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 0707. RIGHT. SO THEN SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE LOT FOR 125,000 AND THEN SOLD IT AGAIN FOR 78,000. ACTUALLY THEY BOUGHT TWO LOTS FOR 125,000. WAS IT TWO FOR ONE MONEY AND THEN AND RESOLD YOURS FOR 78.
OKAY. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. OKAY. SO WE GOT OUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
SO SOMEBODY YOU BOUGHT THE LOT FOR 78,000. AND THIS IS WHERE LIKE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE THESE HEMMING AND HAWING AND ABOUT ADJUSTMENTS. WE HAVE TO EXTRACT THAT FROM THE SALES.
YOU KNOW THAT'S OUR GOAL. WHAT THE END OF THE DAY.
WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE SALES. WHAT SHOULD THEY BE IN LIGHT OF THE SALES, SO THAT WE CAN PROVE WE'RE NOT LIKE THIS? IMPACT IS 20% AND, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENT THAT LIKE IN LIKE ASSESSOR'S OFFICES THAT ARE VERY WELL RUN.
THEY HAVE LIKE A BOOK, A THREE RING BINDER THAT HAVE SALES WHERE THEY CAN SHOW THIS PROPERTY SOLD.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO GO. BUT BUT ANYWAY, SO NOW IF WE IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT HOLD UP, I MADE A MISTAKE SOMEPLACE. 75 IF WE WERE TO MAKE IT 25%.
IT WOULD MAKE THE LAND 77,000. SO BASICALLY, WRITE OUT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN PAID FOR IT IN IN OH SIX, WHICH ALSO WAS KIND OF LIKE A PEAK IN THE MARKET.
YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT WOULD MAKE THE LAND. 77,000.
DID YOU HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH YOUR HOUSE OR WHAT WAS THE.
NO, I MEAN, WHAT WHAT DID Y'ALL THINK OF THAT? THAT DATA FROM COMPARABLE SALES AND AND HERE'S JUST AN OBSERVATION.
OTHER COUNTIES, NOT SO MUCH. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A VERY AGGRESSIVE ASSESSMENT, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO APPRAISE THE PROPERTY, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO COME OUT AND MEASURE IT AND SEE THE ATTRIBUTES, AND THEN FIND COMPARABLE SALES THAT MATCH OR MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF THEY DON'T.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'VE COMPILED SOME DATA THAT I THINK I'VE DONE THAT.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING TO SUGGEST OTHERWISE? I CAN. I CAN SEE. OTHERWISE, IF YOU'D LIKE. OR YOU CAN LOOK AT HIS COMPS.
WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, GO AHEAD. OKAY. MANUFACTURED HERE? YEAH. OKAY. SO SO VISION DID THEIR OWN ANALYSIS, AND THEY PRODUCED GOOD RESULTS.
AND THEN I CAME BEHIND THEM, AND JUST FOR OUR OWN INTERNAL PURPOSES SO I COULD BE PREPARED.
I STUDIED THE SALES IN THE COUNTY BACK TO 2018.
SO I HAVE LIKE OVER 2000 SALES. THEY'RE RIGHT HERE.
I MADE APPROPRIATE TIME ADJUSTMENTS BRINGING THEM UP TO THE CURRENT MARKET VALUE, AND THEN I STRATIFIED THEM OR GROUPED THEM A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS BY STYLE, BY AGE, OF HOME, BY DECADE.
ALL THOSE THINGS AND ANY WAY THAT I LOOKED AT IT, I DIDN'T FIND ANY, LIKE, SYSTEMATIC BIAS.
SO I THOUGHT THEY WERE FINE. AND I THOUGHT IF ANYTHING, THEY WERE LOW.
A LITTLE HAIR LOW. BUT THEY WERE UNREASONABLE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REASONABLE. SO WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE, LIKE.
LIKE, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, OVER 2500 SALES ALL WITHIN THE COUNTY.
SO I THINK YOUR HOUSE IS PROBABLY REASONABLE.
SO AT 199 OR 200 A SQUARE FOOT. YEAH. I MEAN, AND IT'S LIKE A SO LIKE, NOBODY WHO DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK GOES THROUGH AND PULLS THREE SALES FOR YOUR HOUSE AND THREE FOR THE NEXT HOUSE DOWN THE ROAD, OR THREE FOR THE NEXT HOUSE DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST TAKE SO MUCH TIME TO DO IT.
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SO WE DO IT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN APPROVED.WE LOOK AT GROUPS OF HOUSES WITH GROUPS OF SALES.
SO ALL THE GROUPS THAT THAT I THINK YOU ARE APPROPRIATE THAT YOU'RE PART OF WOULD BE REASONABLE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME ALIGNMENT ON MY RECOMMENDED PROPOSAL FOR AN ASSESSMENT, BUT I JUST WILL SAY THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE HAVING AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PROBABLY ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, SITE VISITS AND, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF COMPARABLES AND THEY'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS.
AND AND HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, OTHER COUNTIES JUST SEEM A LITTLE MORE RELAXED.
SO IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, 20% BELOW FAIR MARKET VALUE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOT SCRUTINIZING THE NUMBER AS MUCH.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS AGGRESSIVE APPROACH IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, COME SEE YOU FROM TIME TO TIME. SO WHAT DOES THAT MAKE HIS NEW ADJUSTMENTS LAND? YES. WAS IT 77 FOR THE LAND? 70. 76? 70? 77. SIX FOR A TOTAL OF 431 FOR. I'M SORRY. I WAS NOT LISTENING. OKAY, SO THE THE LAND WOULD BE 77 SIX AND THE HOUSE AND THE LAND AND EVERYTHING ALL IN WOULD BE 431 400. ALL RIGHT. NOW, I DIDN'T FOLLOW YOU THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THE COMPARABLES THAT WERE BASED ON ALL THE EQUAL ATTRIBUTES CAME UP TO ONE, 99 OR 200 A SQUARE FOOT, WHICH EQUALS 411.
NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. IF I DID, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
DID Y'ALL NOT HEAR THAT? YES, SIR, I DID. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
NO, THESE COMPARABLES JUST FROM THE MLS NUMBERS, ETC..
WERE THEY 23 COMPS OF HOUSES SOLD? 23 AND 24? YEAH. YES. THEY THEY'RE BASICALLY TWO YEARS. YES.
THE SOLD RANGES FROM JANUARY 1ST, 23 FORWARD.
RIGHT. AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXACT DATES IF YOU NEED THEM.
OKAY. GO AHEAD. OH, I. I DON'T HAVE THEM WRITTEN DOWN, BUT I COULD LOOK THEM UP FOR YOU, I GUESS.
WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. OKAY. SORRY. SO THERE ARE ABOUT TWO YEARS.
A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS OLD. RIGHT. AND THE ACREAGE WAS 6 TO 10 ACRES.
I'VE GOT EIGHT ACRES. RIGHT? YEAH, I KNOW MOST OF THESE HOUSES.
JASON, CAN YOU PULL THE THE REDUCTIONS BACK UP FOR ME FOR JUST A SECOND? THE ASSESSMENT HISTORY? NO. YOUR ADJUSTMENTS OF THE LAND.
OKAY. YES, SIR. IT WAS 25% FOR WETLAND AND 10% FOR ACCESS.
SO GO BACK TO YOUR HER FIGURE FOR ME. WHAT'S THE STARTING NUMBER? FOR 93. KNOW YOUR YOUR LAND STARTING NUMBER AND STARTING.
IF THERE WERE NO ADJUSTMENTS OR. NO, JUST WHAT'S THE 35% CALCULATE? WHAT'S THE 35% BEING CALCULATED OFF OF 93? 100? PROBABLY IT WAS 114 NINE. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'RE SEEING AT THE 93 ONE FOR THE LAND IS FOR 26.
THE LAND WAS 93,100. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO? SO TO BUY MY MATH, A 35% REDUCTION WOULD BE 60,005, 15. WELL, IT IT ALREADY INCLUDING THAT IT WAS.
SO IT ALREADY HAD 10% WETLANDS. AND THEN WE SAID TO MAKE IT 25.
SO THAT WOULD BE A 15% FURTHER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
YEAH. BUT HE SHOULD BE TAKING THESE PERCENTAGE OFF THE 93 100.
YEAH. DID HE NOT? YES. YEAH. SO WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE LAND, IT GOES DOWN TO 77.6, WHICH IS A SMIDGE UNDER WHAT HE PAID FOR THE LOT IN 2007.
I DID JUST SOME MULTIPLICATION. YOU GOT 2033FT².
AND IF $200 A FOOT, IF YOU DID IT THAT WAY, IT COMES UP TO 406 SIX.
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SO I'M SLIGHTLY CONSERVATIVE. I WAS GOING TO HONOR MY WORD WITH MR. PIERCE. YEAH. SO IF YOU DID 200, THEN WE'D BE UP TO 476, SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.SO THE 200 A SQUARE FOOT? YEAH. BECAUSE YOU GOT 2033FT².
IT LOOKS LIKE ACCORDING TO THE. YEAH. TO 2033.
SO ONE NUMBER IS 406. THE NEXT NUMBER IS 411.
WAS THAT JUST FOR THE HOUSE? THAT'S FOR THE HOUSE AS A COMBINED PACKAGE REPRESENTING LAND SIX.
IS THAT THE LAND TWO. YEAH. 6 TO 10 ACRES WAS THE PARAMETERS I USE.
I'VE GOT EIGHT. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO IT'S ALL IN.
YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, JUST AS I SAID. WHETHER HE WAS TERMINATED OR NOT.
HE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO GO TALK TO PER THE PROCESS.
SQUARE FOOTAGE TWO 2033. 200 666.
YOU KNOW, IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT TAXPAYER AND ALL.
MEETS WITH SOMEONE WHO THINKS THAT HE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE.
EXCUSE ME? FROM THE COUNTY. THEY HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS, AND THEN HE FEELS LIKE HE'S GOTTEN SLAPPED UPSIDE THE FACE BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DIDN'T DO. NOW, WE'VE SEEN THAT THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE APPEAL FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS OF WHAT EVAN DIDN'T DO. AND I THINK IT'S CREATED A LOT OF WORK ON Y'ALL'S PART AND A LOT OF WORK ON OUR PART AND THE RESIDENTS PART AND THE. YEAH. AND I, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE AND AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT THERE. WE CAN BINGO IT. YOU TELL US THE NUMBER.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO THAT. NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND TO THAT.
DO I HEAR A SECOND FROM THE MOTION? SECOND, A DISCUSSION AMONG THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I THINK I THINK. MOST BOARD MEMBERS. I THINK JUDGE JASON.
YES, SIR. CUSTOMER SERVICE RIGHT NOW GOING AT THIS.
TAXPAYER HAS COME IN HERE AS WAS TOLD. SOMETHING THAT RIGHT OR WRONG.
I MEAN. I JUST DIDN'T LIKE THIS. I SECOND IN THE MOTION THAT YOU MADE MISS ABERNATHY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN IT. THE PROCESS HAS FAILED. THIS SITUATION, AMONG SEVERAL OTHERS TO BE MORE UNCOMFORTABLE AND MORE WORK FOR EVERYBODY THAN IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE.
YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO. AS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
DO I HEAR ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, SIR BY SAYING AYE.
AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY. THERE YOU GO, JASON.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT IT IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM.
IT'S 411. YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES AND YOU'LL RECEIVE A WRITTEN NOTICE IN THE MAIL.
OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
YEAH. WE COME HERE. HE WOULDN'T SELL THAT
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LAND. 77. SIX. FAIR HOUSE. WELL, HE WAS I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HELP.HE'S NOT. YES. 330 345. EXCUSE FOR A SECOND. MR. GOODMAN IS BACK OUT HERE AGAIN. OH, NO. WE'RE FOR THAT PERIOD.
YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE HERE? I GOT A TICK. TICK. PETE.
HAVE YOU GOT HIM? NOT YET. LET ME GET HIM PULLED UP.
OKAY. YEAH. WELL, NO. MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT THE OTHER ONE STRAIGHT FIRST.
IT'S. YES, SIR. IT'S IT'S. MA'AM. IT'S SAVED IN THE COMPUTER AT 411.
I GUESS I DEVELOPED THAT. I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID, WHAT HE DIDN'T DO.
WE'LL JUST TAKE A MOMENT. LET HIM GET IT PULLED UP.
JUST MR. BAILEY. WE'RE TALKING. YES. KIRK. BAILEY.
SO IT IS. MR. BAILEY. MR. BAILEY, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR FULL NAME? KIRK. ETHAN. BAILEY. WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR? A PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. LIKE THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME, I KIND OF HAVE ALMOST THE EXACT SAME SITUATION.
WHEN I ORIGINALLY RECEIVED OUR ASSESSMENT I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO DO THE INFORMAL DISCUSSION.
I ALSO HAD MR. PIERCE. WE TALKED FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND ULTIMATELY, WE AGREED.
OR HE GAVE ME A NUMBER OF 334, 700. TO WHICH I AGREED TO I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS NOTHING MORE I NEEDED TO DO, THAT I WOULD RECEIVE A NEW ASSESSMENT.
A COUPLE MONTHS PASS AND I NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. CAN YOU PULL UP HIS PROPERTY ON THE MAP SO WE CAN? YES, MA'AM. BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND. THAT'S FINE.
AND I PULLED IT BOTH WAYS. RIGHT. YOU. WE ONLY HAD TO DO A, B OR C, I DID A AND PART B I'M DOING PART A, PULLING SALES. AND THE SALES RANGE FROM DECEMBER OF 23 THROUGH MAY OF 25.
SO FAIRLY CLOSE THEY AVERAGED SOMEWHERE AROUND 305.
SO A FAIR AMOUNT LOWER THAN WHAT MR. PEARCE ORIGINALLY TOLD ME.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GO OVER THERE. I DO AGREE WITH BEING A MAN OF MY WORD.
I AGREED TO THE 334 700 WITH MR. PEARCE AND I'M FINE WITH THAT NUMBER.
I'M NOT TRYING TO CHASE WHAT THE DATA SHOWS, BUT JUST TRYING TO GET TO WHAT WE AGREED TO IS BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNTY, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS HOW THE PROCESS WAS BEING HANDLED.
IS THERE ANYTHING ON THAT PROPERTY? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY WETLANDS ON HIS PROPERTY, AND HE HAS AN ACCESS ADJUSTMENT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT THAT I SEE WITH HIS LAND.
WAS IT A 15%? YES, MA'AM. YEAH. I HAVE NO ROAD FRONTAGE.
IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD THAT'S FALLING APART. IT IS.
I WENT DOWN THERE. IT'S IN ROUGH SHAPE. IT IS.
THE PEOPLE CAN'T GET ALONG. SO THEREFORE NOBODY'S PAVEMENT NO MORE.
THE TRASH TRUCKS ARE WHAT DESTROYED IT. AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
FARGO DIDN'T DO ANY ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS.
YES. THAT'S CORRECT. I'M FINDING THAT ONE OUT THE HARD WAY. YEAH.
BLESS YOUR HEART. AND YOU'RE IN THE VERY BACK.
YES, MA'AM. YEAH, HE'S RIGHT AT THE END OF IT.
NOW, ON YOUR COPS HERE. IT'S 339. 714 IS CIRCLED.
YEAH, BECAUSE I JUST CIRCLED THAT AS THAT'S SHOWN AS THAT IS THE AVERAGE OF OF ALL THOSE, THOSE PROPERTIES, I JUST. OKAY. JUST TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT.
DID HE DO THIS? HE DID NOT. OKAY. NO, I NEVER RECEIVED OTHER THAN THE PHONE CALL WITH HIM.
I NEVER HAD ANY OTHER COMMUNICATION, NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING.
NO FOLLOW UPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
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AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T SHOW WETLANDS, BUT IT'S PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY. EVERYTHING'S A SWAMPY MESS WHEN THE WHOLE FRONT YARD AND THE ENTIRE BACK FLOODS.WHAT DO YOU MEAN? JASON KEITH, SCROLL DOWN ON THAT ASSESSMENT HISTORY FOR ME.
YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. GO UP TO 23. IT WAS A TOTAL OF TWO. 80, 22 WAS TWO, 59, 24.
PROPOSED WAS 2.94. AND WE'RE NOW AT 385. YEAH.
IT WAS LIKE 31% JUMP. AND THAT KIND OF WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE.
PULL IT BACK UP FOR ME ONE MORE TIME. JASON. YES, SIR.
ASSESSMENT HISTORY. YEP. SO GO TO TWO 2021 259 NOW GO UP.
259. 280. SO AVERAGING ROUGHLY 15 TO $20,000 A YEAR.
AND THAT THAT WOULD KIND OF LINE UP WITH IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS APPARENTLY.
AND THAT WOULD KIND OF LINE UP WITH THE 234 NUMBER.
IS THAT THE VALUE. THEY'RE SAYING IT SHOULD BE.
I'M SORRY. WAS THAT THE VALUE THAT THAT THIS THING WERE HERE? NO. THIS IS JUST SOME DAY THAT I WOULD JUST HAVE AS A CURIOSITY IF YOU TOOK WHAT HE PAID FOR AT 234 IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 28, AND YOU BROUGHT IT UP TO THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2024.
THIS IS A CALCULATOR PRODUCED BY THE FEDERAL HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY FOR THE RICHMOND MSA.
IT WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE WORTH $460,000.
THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE OVERALL AVERAGE FOR THE MSA.
ON ON HIS. CARD. AND AND IT LOOKED LIKE YOU YOU GAVE HIM, WHAT, 15% FOR EGRESS? FOR ACCESS? YES. YEAH.
WHAT WOULD 25% DO IF YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE IT 25? YEAH. JUST SAY. OKAY. I HAVE TO REMEMBER. I HAVE TO DO THE INVERSE OF THAT.
IT WILL MAKE THE LAND 74,000. AND THE OVERALL WOULD GO DOWN TO 375, WHICH WOULD STILL BE ANOTHER
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ROUGHLY 12% ABOVE THE 334 NUMBER. I MEAN, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 88 AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY REMODELING ANYTHING REDONE IT. I MEAN, IT'S STILL A DATED OLD HOUSE.I'M GOING TO MAKE THE SAME MOTION AGAIN. EVAN KIND OF LED HIM DOWN A RATHOLE AND SAID, OH, YEAH. THEY HAD A MEETING OF THE MINDS AT 334 34 SEVEN.
AND I'M FEEL THAT WE, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNTY, NEED TO.
DO THAT FOR HIM. BUT LEAVE THE THE INGRESS OR THE ACCESS WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE. I WAS GOING TO SAY MY MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO LEAVE THE LAND ALONE.
YEAH. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO. WE'LL OVERRIDE THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE.
SO WHICH I'VE DONE HERE IF I DID MY MATH CORRECT.
2700. AND THAT WOULD BRING US TO THE OVERALL.
334 700. OKAY. THAT MAKES THE LAND. 884. EVEN WITH THE LAND, THE LAND WOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED. IT WOULD JUST BE FOUR.
YES, MA'AM. I. NEED A SECOND ON THAT. YES, I NEED A SECOND ON MISS ABERNATHY PROPOSAL.
SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE AYE AYE. OPPOSED? THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. A GOOD DAY. SORRY FOR THE MIX UP.
WE ALL FIXED UP. THE FOOD READY? ARE WE READY? YEAH. EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? FOR REAL? YEAH. OH, EVERYBODY. I THOUGHT IT WAS LUNCH BREAK 44 OR.
MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE VISION, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO? YES, IT'S THE LAND BUILDING AT 257. I MEAN, TO ME, YOU'VE GOT TO HONOR SOMEBODY.
YEAH, I. MEAN, IT'S I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST YOUNG TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. PHILLIP PUGH. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU PLEASE. HEY, I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL HAVE A HARD JOB TO DO UP HERE, AND I APPLAUD Y'ALL FOR IT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME. PHILIP THOMAS PUGH, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? YES, MA'AM. DO YOU SWEAR A PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, MR. PUGH, GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT.
GOOD EVENING. OR AFTERNOON? MORNING. WHATEVER IT IS.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'M HERE ABOUT 48, 13 TURKISH ROAD.
WE'LL START WITH THE LAND. CURRENTLY, THE LAND IS ASSESSED AT.
139,600. I BELIEVE. YES, SIR. AND I'M ASKING TO REDUCE THAT TO 109.
THERE'S A COUPLE FIVE ACRE LOTS AROUND THERE THAT ARE VALUED AT CERTAIN CERTAIN LANDS.
AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE ADDRESSES IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
I THINK YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR APPLICATION. YES, MA'AM, I DO.
OH, WOOD AND WARWICK COURT. YES, MA'AM. WARD.
COURT ACTUALLY BACKS UP AND TOUCHES MY PROPERTY ALONG WITH 5001 ONE TURKISH ROAD.
NO. YOU'RE FINE. HOW MUCH LAND DO YOU HAVE? IT'S RIGHT AT 9.2 ACRES, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT'S AT.
YOU KNOW. I THINK. WHAT IS IT RIGHT NOW? IT'S LET'S DO IT HERE ON MY PHONE AT 139 600.
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9.2. YOU'RE LOOKING AT $15,000 AN ACRE. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN THE COUNTY THAT SOLD FOR $15,000 AN ACRE.IF Y'ALL SEE IT, PLEASE TELL ME. I THINK A GOOD NUMBER IS, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY 8000 AN ACRE, POSSIBLY, WHICH WOULD PUT ME AT 73,000. AND I'M NOT EVEN REQUESTING TO GO THAT LOW.
THE LAND IS SLOPED. THERE'S NO WETLANDS ON IT.
IT'S IN A L SHAPE. IT GOES BACK BEHIND PROBABLY THREE OTHER PROPERTIES.
I'VE GOT I DO HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS, BUT, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY KIND OF.
IT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. AND WE'LL KIND OF MOVE INTO THE HOUSE REAL QUICK TOO.
IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED. OTHER THAN A PATIO OR TO PUT IN IN THE BACKYARD.
IT WAS JUST A TRUCK PULLED UP AND DUMPED IT ON THE GROUND AND PUSHED OUT WITH A BROOM.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ON HERE, IT'S GOT A CRAWLSPACE.
MY HOUSE IS BUILT ON A CONCRETE SLAB, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE VALUE OR NOT.
I CAN TELL YOU ANYTIME A WATER LINE BREAKS SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'VE GOTTA CUT CONCRETE AND DIG IT UP. ALL THE PUMPS.
IT'S OUTSIDE. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE GARAGE. THE GARAGE IS UNFINISHED, NOT AIR CONDITIONED.
THE PORCH THAT IS ENCLOSED BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE HOME IS NOT CLIMATE CONTROLLED EITHER.
SO. AND I'M ASKING THAT TO BE REDUCED TO. 200,000? YES, SIR. YEAH. I LEFT ONE OF MY PIECE OF PAPERS AT HOME THIS MORNING, SO I'VE GOT PICTURES ON MY PHONE AS WELL.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I MEAN, Y'ALL WANT TO GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK? LET THE COUNTY ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, OKAY? NOT A PROBLEM.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE PROPERTY HERE IS THAT I MISSED? YES, SIR. IT'S ONLY ONE PROPERTY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO MY AN INITIAL THOUGHT.
SO WE DID. JUST TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED. I WANT YOU TO SKETCH.
I CHANGED IT FROM CRAWLSPACE TO SLAB. OKAY. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE SCREEN IF YOU CARE TO LOOK.
I CHANGED IT ALSO HERE. IT SEEMS TO BE A NON-ISSUE.
BUT AS IT STANDS, THE EDGE DOESN'T. AS FAR AS THE LAND GOES THE ONLY THING THAT'S POPPING OUT AT ME IS MAYBE A SHAPE ADJUSTMENT IS KIND OF LIKE AN L-SHAPED PIECE OF LAND.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN SEE.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THAT I WOULD LOOK AT. AND IT'S A MINOR THING.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE A FLAG SHAPED LONG STEM.
OKAY. MOST OF THE LOT IS USABLE. NOW, YOU SAID YOU WERE COMPARING IT TO OTHER PIECES.
SO IF YOU TAKE YOUR CURSOR AND YOU GO TO WHERE IT SAYS 13.
THAT IS A VACANT FIVE ACRE LOT THAT'S SOLD FOR 73,000.
I BELIEVE THIS PAST YEAR. AND THEN IF YOU GO NEXT DOOR, IT'S ABOUT THE SAME ACREAGE I BELIEVE IS FIVE ACRES, AND THE VALUATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
IF YOU GO TO LOT 18, THERE'S A LOT IN BETWEEN US.
BUT THAT'S RIGHT, AT FIVE ACRES AND THEN EVERYTHING ON SURRY WOULD DRIVE IS ABOUT FIVE ACRES.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE VALUATION OF EACH ONE OF THOSE LAND LOTS, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
IF YOU GO ACROSS THE STREET TO THE DANIELS PROPERTY, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A RAVINE OVER THERE.
BUT THOSE LOTS ARE YOUR 10 TO 8 ACRE LOTS. AND I THINK THEY'RE VALUED AT, YOU KNOW, YOUR 50S TO 60S.
I BELIEVE IF I, I DON'T HAVE THAT PAPERWORK IN FRONT OF ME.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T COME PREPARED TODAY. SO YOU SEE WHERE WATCH RUN IS? WATCH ON DRIVE. IF YOU GO TO BOB'S WAY ACROSS THE STREET, YOU GOT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.
THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE RAW LAND THAT IS AROUND THAT AREA THAT YOU COULD COMPARE TO AS WELL.
ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD TO IT SAYS ON HERE WATER AND SEWER.
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IS THAT JUST A BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T MEAN TO KEEP BRINGING UP THINGS.I ACTUALLY TALKED TO MR. PEARCE, VERY NICE GUY.
HE DID NOT GIVE ME ANY NUMBERS BACK THERE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. THANK GOD. BUT I WILL SAY, FOR BEING HONEST, CUSTOMER SERVICE WAS GREAT WITH HIM, BUT HE DID NOT GIVE ME ANY FIGURES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO. BUT HE AGREED THAT, DON'T YOU? YOU'RE ON.
YOU'RE NOT ON PUBLIC WATER? NO, MA'AM. THERE'S NO WATER AND SEWER ON THIS ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. IT'S TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S IT'S A DESCRIPTOR.
OKAY. IF WE WERE TO CHANGE IT TO AND I THINK I THINK THE TECHNICAL.
THIS IS SO THIS CLASS ONE AND TWO IS THE THING THAT WE REPORT TO THE STATE WHEN THEY RUN THEIR RATIO STUDIES, AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT YOU ARE ON IT, BUT IS IT AVAILABLE TO YOU.
SO AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MISS MAB, WHO USED TO WORK HERE, TOLD ME THAT WE NEEDED TO FIX, WHICH I PUT IT DOWN THE LIST OF THINGS TO FIX, BUT IT NEVER GOT FIXED, APPARENTLY.
SO IT'S LIKE IT DOESN'T DRIVE THE VALUE. IT'S JUST THE STATE LIKES TO LOOK AT THE SALES.
BY AVAILABLE AND NOT AVAILABLE. THAT'S HOW THEY CHOOSE TO.
SO THEY MANDATE US TO CLASSIFY PROPERTY ONE OF SIX WAYS.
CLASS 1234. SO IF WE WERE TO CHANGE IT TO THIS.
WELL, IN SEPTIC AVAILABLE, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE VALUE.
IS THIS PROPERTY BEING COMPARED TO THINGS WITH WATER AND SEWER ACCESS.
BECAUSE WOULDN'T THAT DERIVE THE VALUE OF IT HIGHER? GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I'M GOING TO TURN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OKAY. LAYER. THAT'S NOT A DRIVER OF VALUE. IT'S JUST A DATA POINT FOR THE STATE.
OKAY. THE SYSTEM HERE ARE YOU SEEING IN THE MARKET? YES, IN THE MARKET. LIKE IF YOU DID A SALES COMPARISON TO ME, I WOULDN'T DO THAT.
OKAY. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WHEN THEY DO DRIVE VALUE.
YES, SIR. OBVIOUSLY BEING THE NUMBER ONE. RIGHT.
IT IS. IT HITS A TABLE IN THE BACKGROUND. OKAY.
CALCULATES VALUE FOR THE SYSTEM. YES, SIR. SO ON ON THE MAP HERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DELINEATED BY COLOR SHADING.
SO YOU ARE IN 2008 AND YOU'RE BEING COMPARED.
THE DIRECT COMPARISON IS TO ONLY THESE ONES THAT ARE IN THE SAME LIKE TARNISH BROWN COLOR.
RIGHT. THERE IT IS. CAN YOU LOOK AT THOSE THREE PROPERTIES THERE? ACTUALLY IT'S FOUR OF THEM. THEY SEE WHERE THEY'RE LONG. JUST ABOVE.
RIGHT THERE. CAN YOU CLICK ON THOSE. WHAT ARE THE VALUES ON THOSE? WELL AND I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME FACTORS APPLIED TO THEM.
YEAH. LET ME PULL THEM UP HERE AND THEN JUST BEAR WITH ME A SECOND.
YES, SIR. CAN I ASK A QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, JASON? ABSOLUTELY. SO THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT YOU GAVE AS REFERENCES 3507 OLD WOOD, 4900 WARWICK AND 5001 PACKAGE. ALL HAVE A PER ACRE HIGHER PRICE THAN WHAT YOU'RE PAYING.
YOUR PER ACRE PRICE IS $15,000 PER ACRE OVER THE NINE AND THREE.
THE THREE YOU HAVE ARE 22, EIGHT, 25 FIVE AND TEN SEVEN FOR AN AVERAGE OF 19 SIX.
OKAY. SO MY SO I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS THERE IS A. WRONG. IT'S BASED ON A LAND CURVE, AND THERE ARE RUNGS ON THE CURVE. SO EACH EACH PARCEL CAN HAVE ITS OWN CUSTOM PER ACRE RATE THAT'S INTERPOLATED BETWEEN THOSE RUNGS.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, THE WAY YOU STUDY THE SALES IN THIS CAMERA SYSTEM, YOU WOULD SAY, WHAT'S THE PREVAILING RATE FOR FIVE ACRE TRACKS? AND YOU COME UP WITH A NUMBER FOR TEN ACRE TRACKS.
YOU COME UP WITH A NUMBER. SO SAY TEN ACRES ARE SELLING, FOR THE MOST PART, 100,000 AS AN EXAMPLE, AND FIVE ACRES ARE SELLING FOR 75 OR WHATEVER.
SO ANY NUMBER BETWEEN THE TWO. LIKE IF YOU HAD EIGHT BETWEEN THE FIVE AND TEN, THE COMPUTER SYSTEM WOULD COME UP WITH ITS OWN CUSTOM RATE PRICE PER ACRE FOR THAT TRACK OF LAND. SO IT DOES SOMETHING CALLED INTERPOLATION ON THE MATH BETWEEN THOSE RUNGS.
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THAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN EXPLAIN IT. SO RIGHT NOW FOR THIS FOUR ACRE TRACK DOWN HERE IN GRAY, YOU SEE 6000. RIGHT THERE ON YOUR SCREEN. YES, SIR.SO THIS FOUR ACRES IS VALUED AT 6000 FOR 24,000.
AND YOU HAVE THE ONE ACRE AT 60,000. THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT YOURS.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT I PULLED UP AS A COMPARISON.
YEAH, YEAH. YES, SIR. SO THIS ONE IS AT NINE.
YOU SEE HOW IT IT SAYS IT SAYS 60,000 HERE. AND THAT CONFUSES PEOPLE.
NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, A MULTIPLIER FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
RIGHT. AND THEN THEY SAID, OKAY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT WORSE. AND THEY WOULD MULTIPLY THE LAND UP OR DOWN BASED ON WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY NEEDED TO HAPPEN. THAT'S WHAT I THINK HAPPENED.
AND I'M LOOKING BEHIND, YOU KNOW, LIKE SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF YOU TOOK THAT 1.5 MULTIPLIER OFF, WHAT WOULD IT BE THEN? IT WOULD BE 50% LESS OR.
YEAH, 50% LESS. SO INSTEAD OF PAYING $139,000 AN ACRE, I'D BE PAYING HALF THAT.
OH. NO, NO, LIKE, MY MATH IS INCORRECT. YOU'D BE PAYING SOME NUMBER LESS THAN BECAUSE I THINK I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST STRICTLY OPINION. Y'ALL ARE THE PROFESSIONALS. I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE IS THE ORIGINAL NUMBER THAT VISION CAME UP WITH, THAT THEY DERIVED EVERYTHING OFF OF AND MOVED FORWARD.
I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST GRIPE WITH EVERYBODY THAT HAS COME UP HERE, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS. IF IT IF Y'ALL SAY IT'S FAIR STOPS RIGHT HERE, IT'S FAIR, BUT I JUST.
I DON'T THINK I CAN SELL IT FOR THAT HONEST OPINION.
I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD TAKE $309,000 FOR IT.
I, I WOULDN'T SELL IT. IT WOULD SIT THERE AND BECOME A RENTAL HOUSE.
I THINK YOU'D PROBABLY LAUGH THAT PERSON OUT OF THE YARD.
I DON'T, I DON'T. THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO CONVINCE PEOPLE. THIS PROPERTY FOR 309,000.
MAYBE IT'S WORTH SOME NUMBER LESS THAN 398 FOR.
THE FIRST ONE YOU THREW OUT CAME UP TO 14,600 PER ACRE.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, I WAS CALCULATING WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THE OTHER ONES.
I DIDN'T GET TO CALCULATE THE OTHER ONES TO MR. CRAWFORD'S POINT, BUT I REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 309.
WHERE DO YOU THINK IT NEEDS TO BE? TALK TO ME.
HALF A LOAF OF BREAD IS BETTER THAN A LOAF OF BREAD. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HATE TO BE LIKE THAT. I'M HERE ON THE MERCY OF Y'ALL.
THERE YOU GO. I MEAN, AND I GUESS WE NEEDED TO PROBABLY HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION OR WHATNOT. YES. DO THAT IF YOU WANT. GO AHEAD. YES.
NOW, DISCUSSION. I'M SORRY. YOUR SECOND. I DID.
ELIZABETH. YEAH. SEVENTH. YEAH. I PRETTY MUCH SAID WHAT I MEAN, AND I AGREE.
AS A CHAIRMAN YET? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVER 398.
I KNOW IT WILL SELL FOR MORE THAN 309. OKAY. OKAY.
SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE. SO MY QUESTION IS, AND THIS IS JUST MY BASIS.
IF I HAD A HOME INSPECTION DONE, I BELIEVE I'D HAVE TO SPEND AT LEAST 35 TO $40,000 MINIMUM TO GET UP HOME INSPECTION UNLESS IT WAS A AS IS WHERE IT'S BUYER PRICE. AND OF COURSE THAT WOULD LOWER THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE.
CORRECT. AND WE COULD POSSIBLY SELL IT FOR 309.
YES, MA'AM. ONE OF THE GARAGES NEEDS A ROOF PUT ON IT.
ONE OF THE THE ACTUAL PUMP HOUSE WHERE ALL OF YOUR WELL PRESSURE TANK FALLEN DOWN.
GOT TO BE REBUILT. NEED TO DO SOME WORK ON YOUR PROPERTY.
I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BUSY. GREAT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT.
WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOT OF THE HOUSE? 1600, ACCORDING TO THIS.
OKAY. YEAH. THEN YOU'VE GOT A A TOTAL GROSS SAYS 4004 34.
AND THEN IT SAYS LIVING IS 16, 13, 16. IT'S NOT UNLESS YOU.
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AND DON'T YOU HAVE A BREEZE. YOU SAID A BREEZEWAY BETWEEN THE TWO.YES, MA'AM. THERE'S ANOTHER PORCH, TOO. YOU'VE GOT A FRONT PORCH.
OH, OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. LIKE TWO FOOT BY TEN FOOT OR SOMETHING? YEAH. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU REAL QUICK.
YES, SIR. YOU SAID YOU WOULD NEED TO DO $30,000 WORTH OF WORK.
IS IT COSMETIC? IS IT FIXING THINGS THAT ARE DAMAGED THAT SHOULD BE REPAIRED? I WOULD SAY FIXING THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED AND SHOULD BE REPAIRED, LIKE, YOU KNOW, GUTTERS. THE GUTTERS NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE DOOR IS AN ORIGINAL DOOR FROM 1973 ON, IT HAVE NOT BEEN REPLACED. THE GARAGE DOOR IS A THIN FIBERGLASS DOOR.
THE ONE BUILDING I'M GOING TO MY PLAN IS IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, WHEN I GET SOME TIME, TAKE THE BUILDING DOWN COMPLETELY AND PUT A NEW ONE UP, BECAUSE IT'S HADN'T HAD ANY MAINTENANCE DONE TO IT SINCE IT WAS PUT THERE.
YOU CAN LIVE IN THE PLACE. ABSOLUTELY. SO OKAY, BUT IF SOMEBODY WAS BUYING IT, THEY'D SAY THIS, THIS IS OUR WISH LIST TO HAVE IT FIXED AT THIS PRICE.
YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO. BUT NOTHING LIKE SERIOUS, LIKE ROOF LEAKS, NO FOUNDATION ISSUES.
JUST KIND OF KIND OF. HONEY, DO LIST SORT OF BATHROOMS NEED TO BE REMOVED.
IT IS ON A SLAB, NOT ON IT. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
SO THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. IT HAS SEVEN.
IT'S AT 72% OR A 28% REDUCTION FOR DEPRECIATION.
OKAY. FOR A HOUSE BUILT IN THE 70S. THAT'S IN THE BALLPARK.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MAYBE YOU COULD USE 5% MORE OR SOMETHING, BUT MAYBE MAYBE IT'S FINE.
CAN YOU GO TO THE HISTORY? TAX HISTORY? YES, MA'AM.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS TWO 283 2023, 328 23 PROPOSED FOR 24 WAS 347.
SO THIS IS A TWO YEAR TAX ADJUSTMENT. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE LAST YEAR.
THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE 347 NINE WHAT IS THAT 24.
IT'S SORRY 347 NINE WHICH IS ON MY PIECE OF PAPER HERE.
RIGHT. THAT WAS 24. THAT WAS 24TH. ASSESSMENT.
IT'S PROPOSED AT 3.98. SO IT'S PROPOSED IN, SAY, 40 GRAND.
I CAN'T SEE 40 GRAND OR GOOD EVERYTHING. I THINK WE JUST AFFIRMED THE ASSESSMENT AT 3.984.
THEY CAN COME IN OVER NINE ACRES OF LAND. SURE.
YOU COULD LISTEN AT 425. NEGOTIATE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
IF IT'S A SALE. AND PROBABLY LAYING RIGHT AROUND 3.98 FOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.
I DO. OH, YEAH. SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I CHANGED, AND I THINK IT WAS THE SLAB.
BUT IT WAS AN AVERAGE CONDITION. OH, I PUT THE SHAPE ON HERE, SO I CONSIDERED MAYBE A SHAPE. THE NUMBERS WEREN'T JIVING, SO LET ME JUST BACK THAT UP, AND WE'RE GOOD.
SO GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR MOTION. SORRY.
IN MY MIND, I WAS, LIKE, SCARED. I WAS LIKE, OH, NO, THE SLAB DID CHANGE, BUT IT DIDN'T.
SO OKAY, SO YOU PUT IN SLAB IN THERE. IT DID NOT MAKE A CHANGE.
SO YOU STILL 398 400. YES, MA'AM. BUT DID YOU TAKE OUT THE SHAPE ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS ALREADY IN THERE? NO IT WASN'T, I WAS I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE THAT WAS THE ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO.
NO, THERE'S NO, NO, NONE THERE. YEAH. THERE'S NOTHING APPLIED TO IT RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY.
CORRECT. YES. YEAH. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THE SHAPE IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO AFFIRM THE ASSESSMENT AS INDICATED AT 3.98 400. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.APPRECIATE IT. GOOD LUCK WITH THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
THREE. NINE. EIGHT. FOUR. ADJOURNED FOR LUNCH.
WHY DOES THAT SAY 4037? NOW THE FUN BEGINS. I'M FIXING IT RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. I DID SOMETHING THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE.
YEAH. I'D LIKE TO RECONVENE THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
JAMES R JONES, JUNIOR. NOT A JUNIOR. NO, YOU'RE NOT A JUNIOR.
WHY DO I CALL YOU A JUNIOR, MY SON? WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND TELL US YOUR WHOLE FULL NAME? JAMES ROBERT JONES. OKAY. KEEP YOUR HAND UP. OKAY.
DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? I DO. GO AHEAD, MR. JONES. OKAY. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO PARCELS.
YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. LET'S DO ONE PARCEL AT A TIME.
OKAY. WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE? THE UNKNOWN. GRAY FOX DRIVE.
WAIT A MINUTE. I HAVE TWO PARCELS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF PARCELS.
MOST OF THEM IS IN A CORPORATION'S NAME, I THINK.
OKAY. THIS ONE'S UNDER JAMES R JONES. IT SAYS IT'S UNKNOWN.
TAX CODE 00010. HONEY, I AIN'T GOT NOTHING. LET ME BRING IT UP ON THE COMPUTER. NOW. MAYBE JAR MR. JONES'S MEMORY. SURE. THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S 121 ACRE TRACT OF VACANT LAND.
OKAY, THAT'S HENRY PARKER'S OLD LAND. NOT UP THE STREET UP THERE.
YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I TRY TO BRING IT UP ON THE MAP REAL QUICK. YES, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH. ARE YOU THERE? THEY'RE ON THE SPEAKER, AND THEY'RE GETTING READY TO CALL EVERYTHING.
SO LISTEN UP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE HERE. YES.
TARA, THIS IS MARIANNE WHITE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOE.
WOULD YOU MIND RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING? OKAY. DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? OKAY. COULD YOU HOLD THAT TOWARDS THE MIC? YEAH.
OH, YEAH. I GOT ONE MORE TIME. YES, PLEASE. YES.
THANK YOU. WE'RE TALKING HIS FIRST CASE WILL BE 121.2 ACRES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? BRICKHOUSE AND BULL HILL. WHY COULD IT BE? I DON'T KNOW. LET ME SEE.
121. OKAY. GIVE ME THE PARCEL. GIVE ME THE PARCEL ID.
1200200010, YEAH. THIS IS BRICK HOUSE, SECTION NUMBER TWO.
IT'S IN LAND USE PERMIT, LIKE LAND USE. I MEAN, LIKE, WHAT IS THE REASON OF IT GOING UP FROM.
I MEAN, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED IN THAT PROPERTY.
NOTHING. IT IS STILL UNDEVELOPED. WE'RE STILL DOING IT ON FORESTRY.
LIKE NOTHING HAS CHANGED. AND IT WENT FROM, YOU KNOW, 352 TO 426.
OKAY. IS THAT IS THAT ALL YOU'VE GOT TO SAY? WELL, I GOT IT.
GO AHEAD. YOU WANT TO TELL THEM ABOUT WHAT THIS IS? YES. IT'S IN THE BACK OF THE BACK OF BRICK HOUSE LANDING.
THEY SAY THEY WILL, BUT THEY WON'T DO IT. THAT'S THAT ROAD THAT GOES.
YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. YOU SEE, IT STOPS RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT. AND IT'S ABOUT A 300 FOOT SECTION IN MR. COLLINS. AND THEY WILL NOT GIVE UP TO GO ACROSS IT.
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SO, YES, WE HAVE IT AND WE WANT TO DEVELOP IT.WE HAVE NO SEWER. WE HAVE NO WATER THERE. WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
BUT IT'S UNDEVELOPED BECAUSE WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO IT.
RIGHT. I GOT A TEN FOOT ACCESS. I THINK YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT NOBODY'S MET.
YEAH. YEAH. SO HE CAN'T BUILD A ROAD IN THERE. IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR THE ROAD. SO THAT.
OKAY, LET'S TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY AND DIVISION.
I CAN HEAR HER. WAIT A MINUTE. WE'RE TURNING IT.
WE'RE TURNING IT OVER TO THE COUNTY AND DIVISION FOR REBUTTAL.
SO I HAVE THE LAND. I HAVE THE LAND ADJUSTMENTS.
ALL UP ON THE SCREEN HERE. THE ONE THAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS AN ACCESS ONE.
SO I THINK THAT ONE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE RECALIBRATED TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
60 OR 70, YOU KNOW, 30 OR 40% DISCOUNT. AND LET ME SEE WHAT THIS DOES IT.
SO SO IT DOES FACE SEVERE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S ONLY GOT A TEN FOOT RIGHT AWAY, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY IS DRIVING LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A FOUR WHEELER OR SOMETHING DOWN THROUGH THERE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF OF WETLANDS AROUND THE EDGE, YOU KNOW.
SO I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY REASONABLE. I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S AT 5% FOR WETLAND.
AND WHAT WOULD YOU THINK ON THAT. ANY ACCESS? YEAH. HERE, HERE. HERE PLEASE. YES. I WOULD CERTAINLY THINK THAT 5% IS PROBABLY TOO LOW.
WHERE IS LOCATED AT? YEAH. I WOULD HAVE NO TROUBLE.
15%? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF WETLANDS ON THAT PROPERTY.
TRUST ME A LOT. SO THAT ONE. RIGHT. HE PULLED THAT UP, AND HE'S ALL THE WAY.
OH, IT'S ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. AND A RAVINE.
AND THEY SAID NO THEY WANT ME TO, THEY DON'T WANT ME TO COMPETE WITH THEM.
SO YOUR ACCESS. YOU NEVER FINISHED. IT WAS. HOW MUCH? 30%. WELL, IT WAS ONLY 5%, WHICH WE CONCLUDED BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.
THAT THAT WAS TOO LOW. MICROPHONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
I'LL GET IT BY THE END OF THE DAY. SO WE CAN WE BOTH SORT OF AGREE THAT ACCESS IS MORE OF AN ISSUE.
WHAT LENS? I THINK IT'S AT 5%. I CAN SEE 10%.
TOPOGRAPHY TOO? YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S GOT A RAVINE RIGHT BACK HERE IN THE BACK.
JUST TWO OF TWO RAVINES THAT COME UP THROUGH THERE.
I WISH I COULD. AND THERE ARE THREE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BACK THERE, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DON'T WANT DON'T THEY DON'T WANT NO DEVELOPMENT. AND SO NOT IN MY BACKYARD. I TALKED TO THEM YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO ABOUT SELLING.
AND I BOUGHT THIS LAND FROM DEVAR. I THINK IT WAS THE VARGO THEY OWNED.
THEY TIMBERED IT. AND THEN I TRADED HIM A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR IT.
AND I THOUGHT I COULD DEVELOP IT. HAD BEEN HOLDING ON TO IT.
AND I PROBABLY IN MY LIFETIME WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE.
MAYBE MY SON WILL. OR MAYBE HIS SON WILL. MY GRANDSON GOODS IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS.
I'M GOING TO SHOOT HIM. I'LL GO TO PRISON. Y'ALL LAUGH ABOUT IT.
IT'S PRETTY BAD OUT HERE NOW. IT IS. EXCUSE ME.
SO, WERE Y'ALL ASKING FOR THE ASSESSMENT TO BE CARRIED BACK TO WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR? YES, PLEASE. YEAH, WE CAN LIVE WITH. AND LAST YEAR WE FAILED TO COME HERE.
OR TWO YEARS AGO. YEAH. TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS AGO, THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
THEY HAD UPPED IT, AND THEN THEY BROUGHT THEM ALL BACK DOWN.
THAT WAS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU ONLY SAID 32 YEARS.
Y'ALL DO IT EVERY YEAR. YOU DO. BUT TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, WASN'T IT? YEAH. THAT'S WHEN I COULDN'T SHOW UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW.
ANYWAY. GO AHEAD. THIS IS Y'ALL'S PROPERTY, SO GO AHEAD.
NO, NO, NO, I JUST THINK THAT THE COUNTY DECIDED NOT TO DO ANYTHING RIGHT LAST YEAR.
WE DID NOTHING, LEFT IT ALONE. SO WE WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T ARGUE ABOUT IT.
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COUNTY. YES, I DO KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY BULL HILL ROAD IS NOT IN LAND USE, BECAUSE THAT WE'RE HOPING TO DEVELOP THAT WITHIN FIVE YEARS.I GOT YOU THAT WATCH. YEAH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE PARCEL AT A TIME, I THINK.
YES, YES, YES. SO OKAY. THAT'S FINE. SO WHAT WHAT I THINK IS REASONABLE IS BASICALLY 302 500 FOR THE LAND. AND THAT'S BASED ON TAKING THE ACCESS DOWN TO 25.
YOU KNOW, A -25. THE INCREASE IN TOPOGRAPHY TO 10%.
THE WETLANDS TO 10%. IT ALSO HAS A POWER LINE EASEMENT AND ZONING ISSUES, WHATEVER THOSE ARE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK WOULD BE IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN SO FAR FOR.
SO YOU SAY TAKE IT DOWN TO 300 TO 500? YES, MA'AM.
OKAY. WELL, WE CAN ONLY $300 INCREASE. NO NO NO NO NO.
THAT'S TWO. THAT'S A YEAH, IT WAS FOUR. IT WAS, IT WAS 352.
OH YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. YEAH.
FROM WHAT? FROM WHAT? IT WAS THE LAST TIME THE ASSESSMENT STUCK.
IT'S ROUGHLY AN EIGHT, 8 OR $9000 INCREASE FROM 2.956.
IF I'M READING IT CORRECTLY OR. NO, IT WAS 326 AND 2023.
THE MARKET VALUE. SO IT'S ACTUALLY BELOW THAT IN 2023.
OKAY. OKAY. 300 TO 500. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE ASSESSMENT ON THIS PARCEL OF LAND BE REDUCED TO 3025.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
MR. JONES. THE NEW ASSESSMENT ON THIS PARCEL OF LAND IN BRICKHOUSE IS WHAT WE'LL CALL IT.
IT'S 302 500. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW I'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO GO. WE'LL JUST. IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'LL GO SCROLL RIGHT DOWN THE PAGE.
AND I'LL BRING THEM UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHICH PARCEL THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OKAY. THIS PARCEL IS 140030000BB000.
SORRY. ONE MORE. ONE MORE FOR ANOTHER ONE. THAT'S JUST THE ONE WE JUST DID.
YEAH. THIS IS THE THIS IS FOUR FOR 4113 JEFFERSON PARK ROAD OKAY OKAY.
AND NOW YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE. WHAT'S THIS HOUSE.
OH MY LORD. I WISH I WAS TAKING A PICTURE OF THAT.
SO MY ARGUMENT HERE IS THAT THERE IS NOT INACCURATE PROPERTY DESCRIPTION MEANING LIKE.
I DON'T THINK SO. THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS A PARCEL ID 1200, A00007E, THE VALUE DECREASED, YOU KNOW, FROM 133 800 TO 117 700 WHERE THIS HOUSE, IT WENT UP, INCREASED. AND MY ISSUE IS THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT'S LIKE ALMOST FALLING DOWN.
WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING ON TEARING THE HOUSE DOWN.
I'M HOPING WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR IF I CAN GET ON JAY'S SCHEDULE.
AND THAT'S HARD. BUT I MEAN, IT'S IT'S NOT IN GREAT CONDITION.
IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE BULLDOZED. YEAH, BULLDOZED.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE, THE THE HOUSE WHEN IT IS REALLY.
I MEAN, A TRUCK RAN THROUGH IT ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT.
YEAH. YEAH. WELL I THINK IT WAS PEOPLE LOOKING USED TO LIVE THERE I THINK.
FORT LEE MOVED BACK ON BASE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MARKET FOR IT.
I WISH I HAD NEVER BOUGHT IT, BUT I BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
IT IS IN TERRIBLE. THE BASEMENT IS COLLAPSING.
IT'S GOT ONE BATHROOM. IT DON'T WORK HALF THE TIME AND I LET THE GUY LIVE THERE TO CUT THE GRASS.
HE USED TO WORK FOR HIM WHEN HE QUIT ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO AND OH NO, I STILL GOT SOME GRASS, I HOPE, BUT IT'S IT'S PRETTY FOUL. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.
IT'S FOUL SHAPE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT WORTH REHABBING.
YOU KNOW, EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I OWNED, TYPICALLY I KEEP IT IN TOP.
THIS AIN'T WORTH DOING IT. IT'S FOR A LOT TO ADD TO THE REST OF IT.
AND I HAD DREAMS. WHEN IT'S OVER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, Y'ALL RECALL, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO BUILD YOUR OWN NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT AND DO ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT AND NONE OF THAT, NONE OF THAT CAME TRUE.
SO I CAN'T SAY IT'S GOING UP IN HERE. LITERALLY DEVALUED, THEN INCREASED.
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I MEAN, I LIKE IT. SO IF SOMEBODY WENT OUT IT STRUCK ME A CHECK.I'LL RUN LIKE A RABBIT. WHAT DID Y'ALL COUNTY Y'ALL IN THAT HOUSE? DID Y'ALL REALLY LOOK AT IT. DOES ANYBODY LIVE THERE NOW? OH YEAH, THEY LIVE THERE. BUT IT WAS CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING A RENTAL INCOME, SIR, I DON'T GET ANY RENT.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM. HE CUTS THE GRASS. HE WAS AN EMPLOYEE FOR US.
WE DON'T GET ANY RENT. NO, HE LIVES THERE. AND HE COULD RENT IT IF HE WANTED.
NO, SIR. I COULDN'T TYPICALLY CHARGE. IN MY HEART, I COULD NOT CHARGE SOMEBODY TO LIVE THERE.
THERE'S NO WAY TO JAMES OR JONES. I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
AND I'D SAY HE'S HISPANIC. HE WORKED FOR ME. IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THING HE EVER LIVED IN.
I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT IT'S TRUE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S GOING TO GO BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM NOTICE WHEN I LEAVE HERE. TO LEAVE BECAUSE HE HASN'T PAID. HE AIN'T CUT THE GRASS. THE NAME IS BOOGIE. I GOT IT ON MY LIST RIGHT HERE.
SEE BOOGIE WHEN I LEAVE HERE. BUT GO LOOK AT IT, PLEASE.
IF YOU WOULD. EVEN IF YOU WOULD BE, YOU'LL BE A SLUMLORD.
IF YOU RENTED THAT THING TO SOMEBODY, LET THEM LIVE THERE FOR FREE.
BUT WELL, HE DOESN'T. HE HAS TO PAY THE UTILITIES.
OKAY? YES, MA'AM. HE DOES PAY HIS UTILITIES BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET LEGAL.
HE COULDN'T GET JUST HE PUT IN HIS NAME. BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
BUT THE HOUSE IS DILAPIDATED. I MEAN, IT IS. IT'S A SHAMBLES.
WHAT DOES IT NEED TO BE? TO BE FIT FOR OCCUPANCY IN EUROPE, I'D HAVE TO SPEND 75 TO $100,000.
THE BASEMENT IS COLLAPSING. CAN YOU. COULD YOU DESCRIBE IT IN A NON-MONETARY AMOUNT? LIKE WHAT? WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE FIXED? YEAH.
THEN THE BASEMENT IS COLLAPSING. THE INSIDE IS ALL FALLING IN.
BE ANOTHER $20,000 TO FIX IT UP. AND IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
IT'S ON COMMERCIAL. AM I CORRECT OF THAT? PRETTY MUCH.
YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE THERE. IT'S OWN BUSINESS.
I'M ASKING THE GENTLEMAN HIS OWN COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THE HOUSE IN BETWEEN PHILADELPHIA AND HIM BURNED DOWN, AND WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING. THAT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.
PROBABLY IF TIME GOES BY, YOU KNOW, I'M 73. NOW IS A LONG TIME.
YOU'RE RIGHT. IT CAUGHT ON FIRE AND WE WAS GOING TO FIX IT UP, AND THEN IT WAS OVER 50% DAMAGE.
THEY SAID I COULDN'T BUILD IT. I COULDN'T FIX IT. SO I HATE TO SAY THIS HOUSE IS ON FIRE.
ANYONE GET HURT? I AIN'T GOING TO BURN IT DOWN. DO YOU OWN PROPERTY? I OWN ALL THE PROPERTY.
THE ONLY REASON I BOUGHT IT. BECAUSE I BOUGHT THAT WHOLE BLOCK ADJACENT TO THIS ONE.
YES, SIR. TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS A RAVINE TO THE RIGHT.
IF YOU FACE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE A. YOU HAVE IT ON A PLAT.
FORT LEE WAS JUMPING INTO BITS, SAYING, HEY, WE WANT, WE WANT THIS.
AND I BUILT THE JEFFERSON CENTER, WHICH I STILL OWN TODAY, AND WE HAVE A HARD TIME RENTING IT.
EVERYBODY'S MOVED BACK ON BASE OR THE LOGISTICS COMPANIES AND A WHOLE BUNCH BACK IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, AND THEY DO EVERYTHING REMOTELY. WE HAVE A HARD TIME READING THIS.
AND IT GOES BACK TO THE SWAMP. 1.03 ACRES. IT'S AN ACRE OF LAND.
JIMMY, YOU HAVE THAT PIECE OF PAPER. I DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH ME.
BUT THAT SHOULD BE WITH THAT PIECE OF PAPER AND ACREAGE.
I THINK I GOT THE RIGHT BOOGIES OUT, SO I GOT IT RIGHT HERE.
HE'S GOT A NAME LIKE BOOKIE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT.
IT'S LIKE. NOTICE I DON'T TELL YOU HOW MANY ACREAGE RIGHT THERE.
LEGAL DESCRIPTION. THEY TOLD US THIS. ONE POINT. ONE POINT? YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S IT. IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE OF LAND. BUT THE BACK PART OF THAT GOES TO THE SWAMP OVER THERE TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THE BACK.
IT GOES TO A SWAMP BACK THERE. I BOUGHT IT BECAUSE I WANT TO WANTED TO OWN EVERYTHING UP THERE, AND I WANTED TO TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN. BUT AT LEAST HERE I'M CUTTING THE GRASS.
I GOT ONE HOUSE ON THE CORNER. IT PAYS ME WHAT THEY PAY ON THE CORNER.
ABOUT $700 A MONTH. YEAH. IT USED TO PAY THE TAX.
WHAT DID THEY PAY? PHONE BACK UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
OH. I'M SORRY. OH. I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW. HE HAD HE HAD YOUR PHONE TO WHERE WE COULD NOT HEAR A CONVERSATION.
BUT WHAT IF THE GUY ON THE CORNER OF PHILADELPHIA OWED HIS NAME? PHILADELPHIA PAYS 6.75, BUT HE DOESN'T WORK FOR US.
NO. HE WORKED WITH HIM TO HELP ME QUIT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT THAT'S THE ONE THAT DECREASED 12%. AND IT SHOULD HAVE JESUS IN.
I HATE TO SAY IT, HIS IS PROBABLY IN BETTER SHAPE THAN IT IS.
THAT HOUSE WAS PROBABLY BUILT IN THAT LATE 70S OR 80S.
THERE'S A RANCHER RIGHT ON THE CORNER. YEAH. BOOKIES WERE BUILT BACK IN THE 40S.
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OH, IT WAS RURAL. I MEAN, IT WAS 40S. THAT WAS 40S ERA HOUSES.IT'S NOT WORTH FIXING UP. I'M TELLING YOU, I WOULDN'T OWN IT.
LET'S LET JASON JASON, LET THE COUNTY ENVISION BASED ON WHAT HE'S SAYING.
WE HAVE MICROPHONE. MICROPHONE, MICROPHONE. OKAY.
BASED ON WHAT THE CONDITION IS DESCRIBING, WE CAN CHANGE THE CONDITION RATING TO UN.
UNINHABITABLE. WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE DEPRECIATION.
AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS SOMEONE'S LIVING THERE.
BUT MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T I DON'T KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A QUESTION MARK.
SO THE ASSESSMENT BASED ON THAT, LIKE A, YOU KNOW, QUESTION MARK, IS IT LIVABLE? WE WOULD GO DOWN TO 118,300. TOTAL. YES, MA'AM.
YES. OKAY. BUT Y'ALL, YOU'RE GOING TO ZERO ON THE HOUSE.
NO, NO. WELL, OKAY. I JUST I JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
NO, IT'S NOT ZERO. OKAY. WE'RE WE'RE LEANING YOUR DIRECTION ON ON THE FACT.
I APPRECIATE THAT, I REALLY DO. YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING, LIKE, AN ENGINEER'S REPORT AND ALL THAT, WE. I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO TO ZERO. WHERE WHERE YOU'RE JUST SHOWING UP SAYING, I AGREE.
YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE GOT IT MARKED AS UNINHABITABLE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONDEMN IT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOE TO LOWER THE ASSESSMENT AT 4113 JEFFERSON PARK ROAD TO 118 300? YES, SIR. MA'AM. AND THEN BREAKDOWN FOR CARROLL AND MAKE IT EASIER WOULD BE THE LAND WITH 73,900.
THE BUILDING WOULD BE 40 43,400. OKAY. HAS IT BEEN CLOSED FOR THIS? BECAUSE I SAY, CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING? NO, NO, NO.
OKAY. NO, WE'RE UNDER A MOTION NOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE.
YEAH, YEAH, NO, 73,000. EXCUSE ME. AND IT'S ACTUALLY LOWER THAN IT WAS BEFORE THEY LOWERED.
IT LOWERED BECAUSE IT'S. THEY'RE CONSIDERING IT COMMERCIAL.
YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LAND BE VALUED AT 73 NINE, BUILDING AT 43 FOUR.
AND TOTAL ASSESSMENT WOULD BE 118 THREE. GOT THAT THERE.
DO I HAVE IT. WAIT A MINUTE. DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO THE NEW ASSESSMENT WILL BE 73 NINE FOR THE LAND, 43 FOUR FOR THE HOUSE. TOTAL OF ONE. 18 300. GOT IT.
17 300 IT. IS IT 117 300. JASON. I THOUGHT YOU SAID 118.
118. 300. GOT IT. 118 THREE. THAT WAS WHAT MY MOTION WAS.
OKAY. THE NEXT ONE I HAVEN'T PULLED UP HERE IS THE 9.9 ACRE TRACT.
MERCHANT'S HOPE. HEY, JENNY, CAN WE DO THOSE? CAN WE? COULD THESE SUFFER BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTY? THAT'S SOMETHING I OWN. YEAH. THIS IS A CORPORATION.
I'M A PART OF THE CORPORATION OR LLC. BECAUSE WE'RE JUMPING ALL AROUND THE PLACE.
WELL, JUST A MOMENT. YES, MISS CRAWFORD. WE HAVE THEM CATEGORIZED ACCORDING TO THE OWNERS.
GOTCHA. OKAY. GO AHEAD. THE FIRST TWO WE HAD LISTED AS JAMES AND TERESA.
JUST A MOMENT. WOULD YOU MIND SPEAKING IN THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? WE HAD THE FIRST TWO LISTED ACCORDING TO OUR INFORMATION, WERE OWNED.
THE FIRST TWO WERE OWNED BY JAMES ARTHUR JONES.
THE SECOND TWO ARE OWNED BY JAMES AND TERESA JONES.
WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE ONES THAT ARE OWNED BY JAMES AND TARA JONES.
AND THE LAST ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN EIGHT PARCELS ARE OWNED BY JAMES R JONES, BUILDER. WE'RE MISSING SOME HERE THOUGH. THAT'S I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
OKAY, BRING THEM UP I GOT THEM. WE GOT THEM ALL.
HERE WE GO. OKAY. SO WHICH ONE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NOW? WHAT'S NEXT? THESE ARE THE ONES OWNED BY JAMES AND TERESA.
JAMES AND JAMES AND TARA. JAMES AND TARA. NOW THERE'S NO TARA.
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THERE'S A TERESA AND A TARA. NOW, TARA WAS THE TERESA WAS THE ONE WE JUST WENT THROUGH.YEAH. JAMES AND JAMES AND TERESA IS THE ONE WE'RE ON NOW.
THE FIRST. NO, IT'S NOT THAT ONE. WE DID. THE FIRST TWO WE DID WERE THE ONE.
WE JUST MISSED THESE TWO. JAMES. RIGHT. THAT IS DOWN TO JAMES AND TERESA.
THE NEXT TWO. YEAH OKAY. THESE WERE THESE TWO WAS HERE.
OKAY. NOW WE'RE JUMPING DOWN THE EAST. NOW WE'RE DOING JAMES R AND TERESA JONES.
YES, MA'AM. THAT'S YOUR JENNY. THAT'S YOUR PROPERTY, YOUR HOUSE AND YOUR THE NO ACCESS.
IS THAT THE NINE ACRES ALSO ALL IN ONE. YEAH.
WELL, NO, THERE'S TWO PARCELS ON HERE. SO I THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NINE ACRES YOU HAVE.
THE NINE ACRES IS YOUR PROPERTY. RIGHT. SO THIS HAS TO BE WITH THE NINE ACRES IS THE ONE.
IT'S IT'S PARCEL NUMBER 14140030000.
B0, WHICH IS A 9.9 ACRE TRACK. YES, SIR. OKAY.
THAT'S IT. I KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. OKAY. OKAY.
OKAY. OKAY. NOW, THIS IS JUST FOR JAMES AND TERESA.
THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT THAT NINE ACRES THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE HAS NO ACCESS TO IT.
NONE. IT WAS BOUGHT AS A TIMBER TRACK BY BR. I DIG BR YEARS AGO.
I THINK A LOT OF Y'ALL CRINGE WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THAT NAME.
I CLEARED IT UP. THE LAND IS SO POOR, YOU CAN'T EVEN RAISE WEEDS ON IT.
CAN I SHOW Y'ALL SOME PHOTOS? SURE. TWO SETS OF.
SO YOU KIND OF SPREAD THEM AROUND THE ROOM. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR GOSPEL.
I DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S IN MY POCKET. OH, IT'S NOT FUNNY.
THAT'S TERRIBLE. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. YOU CAN LOOK IT UP.
I USED TO BE A MR.. ANDY. USED TO BE THERE. YEARS AGO, WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY.
USED TO HAVE A LITTLE STORE. NOT A STORE WHERE HE WORKED ON CARS.
BUT THOSE CARS ARE STILL THERE. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN JUNK.
GARBAGE, TRASH. RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM.
WE HAVE A CEMETERY. I BOUGHT IT JUST TO PROTECT MYSELF, BUT THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN GET TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHOUT COMING DOWN MY DRIVEWAY AND THEN GET INTO A PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW SOMEBODY.
YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND I THINK THAT'S OAK GROVE.
OAK GROVE. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I'VE BEEN AROUND HERE, BUT VIRGINIA EXCAVATORS GOT ON THAT, MR. CLARY. SIEG. CLARY. I SOLD HIM ACCESS TO GET TO THE PIECE OF PROPERTY WE'LL GO TO NEXT.
IT CAME FROM OAK GROVE. PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND I SAW HIM.
HE BUILT THIS ON A HOUSE, AND HE WAS A DRUG ADDICT.
AND WHEN I BOUGHT IT, THERE WAS A. YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT HE FOUND.
I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO GET INTO IT. SO I FIXED IT UP AND I MOVED IN.
I DOWNSIZED, AND I KIND OF WISH I HADN'T DID IT NOW, BUT THEN THAT PIECE OF LAND CAME AVAILABLE.
MR. BYRD, BUT IT HAS NO ACCESS. THE ONLY REASON I BOUGHT IT.
THE FIELD YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. KEEP ON, KEEP THOSE I DON'T.
THEY'RE THE SAME. THEY'RE THE SAME. THERE'S TWO SETS.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL LOOKED AT BOTH SETS OF THEM. YES, BUT THAT'S OUR ENTRYWAY.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS OAK GROVE. IT WAS OAK GROVE I DID DEVELOP.
I'M NOT BRAGGING HERE, BUT THAT THE ACCESS TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT'S 29 ACRES TOTAL, I THINK. I THINK OF BOTH PIECES OF PROPERTY. THEY'VE GOT A RAVINE ON IT.
IT'S GOT SWAMP LAND. I GOT A NARROW DRIVEWAY, AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET TO IT.
IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT AN EASEMENT. IT'S A PIECE OF MY PROPERTY.
BUT IF THAT PIECE OF LAND HAS NO, NO WAY TO GET TO IT, IS THAT IT? THERE. THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT TO ME. YEAH, THIS IS IT.
RIGHT HERE. WELL, NOW WAS THAT WAS IT? THERE YOU GO. RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST LANDLOCKED. IT'S LANDLOCKED. I'VE ASKED A GUY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IF YOU BRING UP. THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PICTURE, SIR. NO, I'M.
IT IS. I'M JUST. I'M GETTING IT. I'M LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT VIEW.
I'M SORRY. HERE IT IS. WITH THE WETLANDS SHOWING.
AND HERE IT IS WITH THE WHERE. THERE IT IS ON BLUE.
RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE BEACH PROPERTY. YES. YOU SEE WHAT THAT ROAD IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
THAT IS NOTHING BUT SWAMP LAND. UP THERE. NO, I AGREE WITH YOU.
BUT THE FIELD ON THE LEFT HAND. RIGHT HAND SIDE.
YOU SEE WHERE THAT ROAD HE'S GOT GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE? THAT ROAD IS NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE,
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SO HE WILL NOT GIVE ME ACCESS. HE'S A NICE GUY.BUT HE SAID, NO, I DON'T WANT YOU TO COME TO MY PROPERTY, OKAY? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PIECE OF LAND YOU GOT YOUR ERROR ON RIGHT NOW, THAT'S THE JUNKYARD. AND THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN YESTERDAY AT 5:00, 501.
RIGHT. I TOOK THEM AGAIN TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS GONNA COME BEFORE YOU. Y'ALL CANCELED IT FOR SOME REASON. IT AIN'T CHANGED IN TWO YEARS. THEY AIN'T CHANGED IN 25 YEARS. IF Y'ALL Y'ALL GOING INTO A CEMETERY, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. I TRY TO FIX IT UP.
YOU HAVE TO COME DOWN MY DRIVEWAY AND GO THROUGH THERE.
MY WIFE SHOOT SOMEBODY DO THAT. I AIN'T GOING TO. THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S ANOTHER.
THAT'S WHERE I LIVE. THAT'S WHERE I LIVE. WHICH ONE IS THAT ON THIS MAP? YOU SEE THAT POND? THAT'S THE BIG ONE. THAT'S BIGGER.
OR BIGGER. IT'S NOT DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, BUT MOST OF THAT SWAMP LAND.
I HOPE YOU ALL DO IT WHEN YOU COME DOWN THERE. I HAVE AN ISSUE. REALLY? LET'S SEE.
THAT'S ALRIGHT. WHAT WERE YOUR AREAS RIGHT THERE? IF Y'ALL LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S WHERE MY HOUSE IS.
OKAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HEX MARK MEANS JUST SWAMP THING WHEN YOU COME OUT OF THERE.
SO IT'S WORSE SWAMP I EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. AND I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THAT DRAWING. I MEAN, IT WAS BAD.
I DIDN'T MANAGE A DRIVEWAY IN THERE. I HAVEN'T PAVED IT YET.
MY WIFE TOLD ME TO DO THAT, BUT. ALL RIGHT. BUT TO PUT SOMEWHERE TO TRY TO GET 130,000. AND THEY SAID 80,000. I MEAN, WHO WOULD WORLD WOULD PAY $8,000 A YEAR? YOU CAN'T GET TO IT, CANNOT GET TO IT. AND THEN WHAT'S AROUND IT ALWAYS, ALWAYS LOOK WHAT'S AROUND IT.
Y'ALL BEEN THERE? I AIN'T GOT TO KEEP SAYING THIS, RIGHT.
SO YEAH, WE'LL GO DOWN. WE GOTTA GO DOWN THIS LANE. YOU GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH POCKET. YOU GET TO THIS THING. YOU COULDN'T GET A BANK. YOU'RE A BANKER. WOULD YOU LOAN SOMEBODY? YOU AIN'T GOT ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY? NO.
I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU'RE APPROACHING TIME, MADAM CHAIR.
I'M WAITING FOR THE COUNTY. YES. SO IT IT HAD ALREADY A 2,025% REDUCTION FOR FOR ACCESS ISSUES WHICH WOULD BE SIMILAR BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE SET IT ON THE LAST ONE, THAT THE LAST PART WE TALKED ABOUT THE BIG THE 120 ACRES, IT ONLY HAD FIVE.
AND THEN WE WE MADE IT, I BELIEVE, 75, YOU KNOW, 25% REDUCTION.
AND THEN I BELIEVE YOU SAID THERE WAS A JUNKYARD.
CORRECT. DID YOU SEE THE PHOTO, SIR? I DID NOT KNOW, BUT I AM NOT THE PROPERTY DOWN.
A BUNCH OF STUFF RIGHT THERE. AND THESE ARE GOOD PICTURES.
ALL GOOD TO OUR BACKYARD. I'M SORRY I HAD TO PUT A MOUND OF DIRT TO KEEP THEM LOOKING AT IT.
I THINK THINGS ARE. PUT MY HAND ON A BIBLE I THINK THINGS ARE GOING YOUR WAY.
HE'S WORKING ON FIGURING UP SOME. SO WHAT I THINK IS REASONABLE WOULD BE TO MAKE IT AN ADJUSTMENT, FURTHER ADJUSTMENT, WHICH WOULD REDUCE IT TO 74,600.
AND THAT WOULD BE PUTTING IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS AROUND 20 2122.
SO HERE'S THE ASSESSMENT HISTORY. IT USED TO BE 78 AND 71,000.
BUT WHEN I BOUGHT IT, WE PAID $30,000 FOR IT.
WHAT IS IT? LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT MR. CLARY.
MRS. CLARY IS 95 YEARS OLD. HER SON HAS BEEN IN REHAB, AND HE'S DEAD.
THEY DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS IN LA-LA LAND.
AND SHE'S 94 YEARS OLD. NO ONE WOULD EVER BELIEVE.
TIMBER. YOU AIN'T GOT TIMBER RIGHTS. TIMBERS GO.
TIMBERS GONE. WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE IN THE NEW TOTAL? TO BE JASON? YEAH. I WOULDN'T PAY 64. I KNOW, BUT I WAS BEING GENEROUS.
I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO BE FAIR. I HAVE IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM NOW 74, 600.
THERE ARE THERE ARE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WITH THE PROPERTY AS HE'S DISCUSSING.
AND BASICALLY WE'RE GIVING IT ALMOST A 50% REDUCTION BASED UPON WHAT HE'S SAYING.
SO TO GIVE IT A 50% REDUCTION. IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE.
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I MEAN, Y'ALL STARTED OFF TO YOU HIGH BEFORE. DON'T WORRY ME BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. ALSO, NOW THE LAST TIME Y'ALL CANCELED THE THING OR DECIDED TO KEEP THEM THE SAME. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND MY TIME AND HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES, BUT ANYBODY WOULD PAY $69,000.GOT TO BE THE STUPIDEST HUMAN BEING TO COME TO PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
SO NOW, YOU KNOW, SET PRECEDENTS. JUST SO FOR TEN ACRES.
I THINK IT'S 9.8, ISN'T IT? IT'S NOT QUITE TEN.
IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. 9.9 I THINK UNDEVELOPED IS IN A DISTRICT WHERE YOU HAVE TO RUN SEWER AND WATER.
IF YOU WISH TO TRY TO DEVELOP IT, IT'S IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.
YOU CAN'T. SO DIVIDE INTO TWO BECAUSE YOU AIN'T GOT.
YOU AIN'T GOT TWO FIVE ACRES OF TRACKS AND YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
NOW, WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD PAY $69,000 FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARKETABILITY, MARKET VALUE.
I THINK SOME OF Y'ALL I DIDN'T RECORD OUT. MISTER GUY SAID, HAVE YOU BEEN IN REAL ESTATE BUSINESS FOR JUST ABOUT EVER? HAD YOU BEEN IN THE BUILDING? WAY TOO LONG. NO, NO NO, NO, I'LL SAY THAT ABOUT MY BUILDING STUFF.
BUT A FOOL WOULD PAY THAT FOR IT. I MEAN, IT WAS TIMBERLAND AND MR. BURR. MR. DICK BURR BOARDED AND HARVESTED THE TIMBER OFF OF IT.
NOW IT'S A SCRUB LAND. THEN WHEN IT WAS TIMBER AND THEY MADE A DUMP OUT OF IT, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO COMPLAIN BECAUSE THEY WERE MAKING MONEY BUT DUMPING DEBRIS ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS NOT WORTH $50,000. DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS REDUCED FROM THE 93,200 TO 69.9 AS SUGGESTED BY THE ASSESSOR. NOT QUITE WHAT YOU WANTED, MR. JONES, BUT I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD CUT.
DO YOU HAVE A SECOND TO THAT SECOND DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. NEGATIVE. MR. JONES, THAT PROPERTY WAS REDUCED FROM 93 2 TO 69 NINE. OKAY. LET ME GIVE ME A SECOND. I'M GONNA BRING UP THE NEXT ONE.
AND JUST GOING RIGHT DOWN THE LIST. MADAM CHAIR ONE I MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT ONE OF THE TECHNICIANS GET WITH PROPERTY CARDS SO WE CAN FOLLOW THESE IN ORDER WITH MR. JONES. YES. MR. JONES, WOULD YOU HELP MR. JONES GET THESE PROPERTY CARDS IN ORDER SO WE CAN GO RIGHT DOWN? SO THERE'S THAT MOVING.
I CAN'T HEAR IT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TELL YOU GUYS, WE'VE ASKED SOMEONE WHO'S DOING SOME IN-HOUSE STUFF.
OKAY. UP NEXT IS THE HOUSE WHERE YOU LIVE. I BELIEVE 9725 MERCHANT'S HOPE ROAD.
SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS FIRST, AND THEN JIMMY CAN PUT HIS $0.02 IN.
HE WAS SAYING THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS WRONG.
THEY HAVE THE LIKE JIMMY AND TERESA'S HOUSE. UNDERNEATH IS JUST A DRIVE IN BASEMENT.
IT'S NOT A FINISHED AREA. IT'S NOT LIVABLE SPACE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL DECREASE IT A TAD, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S STILL WORTH, YOU KNOW, $443,000. I SUGGESTED 390. NOW, JIMMY, YOU CAN PUT YOUR $0.02 IN.
THE BASEMENT, I'D DO ANYTHING TO IT. PUT NEW GARAGE DOORS ON IT.
AND THE REASON IT IS, IT'S NOT A LOT. WHAT YOU CAN SEE, IT'S NOT A LOT LIKE THAT.
IT'S LA-LA LAND. I THINK MR. GUY. HE WAS AN APPRAISER FOR YEARS.
WELL, ONE THING THAT I SEE WE HAVE IT DOWN IS THE FINISHED BASEMENT.
IT'S NOT FINISHED, MA'AM. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
CAN I CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. TO YOU ABOUT THE SO I SEE FROM THE PICTURE YOU HAVE THREE GARAGE BAYS ON THE LOWER LEVEL OF YOUR HOUSE? YES, SIR. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT IS BEYOND THAT? IS THERE A POINT WHERE THERE'S, LIKE A RISING WALL WHERE THERE'S A UTILITY ROOM OR SOMETHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THOSE GARAGES? ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S A UTILITY ROOM. OKAY.
I'M KIND OF SYMMETRICAL WHEN I DO MY WORK. I PUT GARAGE DOOR, BUT YOU CAN'T DRIVE A CAR.
BUT ONE OF THEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER ONE IS JUST A STAIRWAY AND UTILITY ROOM WHERE YOU GOT THE HEATING, AIR CONDITIONING. IT WOULD BE UP UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE, BUT THEN I HAD A BASEMENT. I PUT IT UNDERNEATH THERE. IT'S NOT FINISHED.
IT'S JUST SO ON THE FLOOR. IT'S CONCRETE. YES.
IN THE UTILITY ROOM? YES, SIR. ON THE WALLS, ON THE BLOCK.
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CINDER BLOCK AND ON THE CEILING. SHEETROCK. BECAUSE I HAD A FIRE.READ IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BURN MYSELF. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT THERE'S.
YES, SIR. WHAT'S IN THIS? CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE STORAGE ROOM FOR ME? WELL, I GOT IT FULL OF JUNK STORAGE. I TOLD YOU THAT I MOVED OUT OF A 6000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE TO A 2000 SQUARE FOOT.
I HAD A LOT OF JUNK. YEAH. WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR? OH, BOXES GOT BOXES OF CONCRETE. OH, IT'S ONE ON THE FLOOR.
IT'S IT. I HAVE IT SEALED. I SEALED IT. I MEAN, HE ASKED THE QUESTION.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN ANSWER TO IT. SHEETROCK ON THE WALLS. I KNOW SHE KNOW THE DIVIDING WALL.
I HAVE IT DIVIDED WITH THE ONE WALL. I GOT DRYWALL ON HER TO KEEP UP THE STAIRWAY.
IS IT CONDITIONED? NO, SIR. OKAY. THEN WHAT? I RECOMMEND YOU.
WE JUST CHANGED IT FROM FINISHED BASEMENT TO BASEMENT. WALK OUT.
AND THAT WOULD. SO, DO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU? YES, SIR. WE HAVE IN OUR RECORDS AT THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1887.
YES, SIR. AND THEN IT WENT UNDER SOME REMODELING WORK IN THE RECENT PAST.
IS THAT RIGHT? LET ME LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU, MR..
MR. CLARY. LET ME SEE. BUILT THIS HOUSE FOR THE DRUG ADDICT.
I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT BOBBY'S DEAD AND GONE.
HE LIVED IN IT IN A LIFE OF STATE UNTIL HE DIED.
I WENT OVER THERE. THE WINDOWS WERE KNOCKED OUT.
I MEAN, THERE WAS MY WIFE WHEN HE WALKED IN IT. SHE SAID, I WON'T STEP A FOOT IN THAT HOUSE, BUT I SAID, GIVE ME A CHANCE. SO I STARTED REMODELING IT AND I FIXED IT UP WHERE IT'S LIVABLE.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE KITCHEN? WELL, I GOT A NICE KITCHEN.
I AIN'T GONNA LIE TO YOU. MY WIFE'S GOING. MY CHEF. SEE THAT? OKAY, SO SO IN YOUR IN YOUR OPINION IT'S ABOVE AVERAGE.
THE OVERALL HOUSE WOULD BE THE KITCHEN AND BATHROOMS. NO, IT'S NOT LIKE OUR HOUSE. NO I MOVED OUT OF A HOUSE.
HE HAS HE DOES NOT HAVE YOU KNOW INSIDE. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY? LIKE INSECT CABINETS. HE DOESN'T HAVE WOLF RANGES.
HE HAS A CAFE APPLIANCES. YEAH. SO MY MY QUESTION IS SLOW DOWN FOR A MINUTE THERE.
MY QUESTION IS, THE KITCHEN AND BATHROOMS ARE NOT ORIGINAL FROM 1987.
WELL. NO, SIR. YEAH. THE FLOOR, THE FLOORS HAVE BEEN UPDATED.
CHANGED AT LEAST ONCE SINCE 1987. THE FLOORS? YEAH. UPSTAIRS. THE FLOORS. UPSTAIRS. THEY HAVE NEW.
THEY HAVE NEW CARPET OR NEW HARDWOOD. NOW, I PUT OLD HARDWOOD IN THERE.
SAY IT'S OLD. IT'S OLDER THAN THE HOUSE. I GOT SOME OLD. OLD PINE.
IT'S BEEN. I'VE HAD IT IN MY STORAGE FOR 40 YEARS.
SO IT'S UPGRADED THAN IT'S UPGRADED. YES, SIR.
SO WHAT WHAT I WOULD WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS CHANGING THE THE CONDITION CODE FROM AVERAGE TO GOOD.
BASED ON WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE ROOF AND WINDOWS ARE ALSO NEW.
YES, SIR. OKAY, SO THE ROOF AND WINDOWS ARE AWFUL NEW.
SO BASEMENT LEAKS, SO, YOU KNOW. OKAY. AND THEN WE CHANGED THE BASEMENT FROM UNFINISHED TO FINISHED.
EXCUSE ME. WE'RE FINISHED. UNFINISHED. THERE WE GO.
AND THEN THAT WOULD MAKE IT ONE SECOND. IT WOULD GO FROM.
443 DOWN TO 416. SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE BASICALLY JUST GETTING THE FACTS STRAIGHT.
WE MADE THE BASEMENT UNFINISHED AND WE SAID, OKAY, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOVE AVERAGE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S BEEN FIXED UP TO SOME EXTENT, WHETHER THE QUALITY IS THERE OR NOT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT QUALITY BECAUSE WE HAVE IT READY TO SEE LIKE JUST AVERAGE.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES, SIR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNCTIONAL OBSOLESCENCE.
REAL ESTATE MAN. NO, THIS ONLY HAS TWO BEDROOMS ALSO.
OKAY. NOW, YOU KNOW, APPRAISERS REALLY KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GOT FUNCTIONAL STUFF THAT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL I MEAN, IT'S LIVABLE. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LAND? THERE'S A LOT OF TOPO ON IT. THERE IS A POND IN THE FRONT YARD THAT I WAS CONSTANTLY.
I'M GETTING ALL THE RENTALS FROM THE GUY UP THE STREET, THE OIL AND THE GREASE AND COMES DOWN IN IT.
JUST BOUGHT. I DIDN'T PUT IT IN YET. DON'T TAX ME FOR IT.
$6,000 WORTH OF FILTERS. OR SITTING IN MY BUILDING SUPPLY COMPANY TO TRY TO FILTER THE WATER.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A NICE LITTLE POND. IT IS A CESSPOOL.
CESSPOOL? GO OUT THERE AS GREEN STUFF GOING ON OVER THE TOP.
NOT NOT WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
IT IS HILLY. THAT'S WHY IT'S A DRIVE ON THE BASEMENT.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE THIS. I HAD TWO CHOICES FOR THE FOUNDATION, SO I DIDN'T DO THAT.
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THE OTHER GUY DID. HE BUILT A PARTICULAR BASEMENT UNDER.BUT THERE'S NO ONE. NO, THAT'S THE REASON FOR IT.
IT'S NOT THE MOST IDEAL. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT? I THINK HE'S DOING SOME WHAT I THINK IS REASONABLE WOULD BE TO ADJUST THE LIKE I SAID, TAKE THE FINISHED BASEMENT OFF, MAKE IT ACT FROM AVERAGE TO GOOD, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE VALUE FOR 14 100. ALL RIGHT.
HOW ABOUT THE LAND? GOOD LAND. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, I THINK I GOT 19 ACRES OF MOST OF THE SWAMP.
YOU PULL THAT UP WITH A SWAMP SET. YES, SIR. GIVE ME ONE SECOND ON THAT.
SO I HAS. HERE IT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. YES, SIR.
SO IT HAS THE POND, WHICH IS A PLUS. YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY THE POND IS A PLUS.
AND YOU HAVE SOME WETLAND. SO WE HAVE A -10% FOR SHAPE, WHICH I THINK IS REASONABLE WHEN WE HAVE WETLANDS AT -10%, WHICH I THINK IS REASONABLE TOO. SO I WOULD SAY THE LAND IS PROBABLY IN THE BALLPARK.
AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED TO THE LAND BALLPARK.
I'VE SEEN FOUR FOOT OF WATER IN THERE. LAST WEEK.
IT WAS FOUR FOOT OF WATER COMING THROUGH THAT SWAMP.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT HEX MARK. MY ROADWAY HAD TO GO.
YOU SEE WHAT COMES ON? LIKE A PIE SHAPED UP THERE.
AND THE BLUE MARK. THAT'S A CREEK THAT RUNS. SO THAT'S NOT WETLANDS.
IT'S WETLANDS. TRUST ME. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN. I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, BRO.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET IN IS RIGHT ON THE CORNER AND FOLLOW THAT LANE RIGHT UP THERE.
WE HAD TO DO SOME FILLING, AND IT WAS PROBABLY ILLEGAL WHEN IT WAS DONE, BUT IT'S WETLANDS ALL UP AND DOWN THERE, AND THAT WAS USED TO BE A PART OF OAK GROVE. THAT WAS A PART WHERE YOU SEE THAT TRIANGLE IF YOU GO UP A LITTLE FURTHER.
THAT WAS CONTINENTAL CANDY LAND, AND I SOLD THAT TO MR. CLARY JUST TO GET ACCESS TO THAT BACK. THAT PIECE OF LAND THAT THE HOUSE WAS SITTING ON USED TO HOLD YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THIS CONNORS BROTHERS MEAT MARKET.
THE CLODIUS USED TO OWN THAT. I HUNTED IT WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD, 55 YEARS AGO.
THE GUY UP ON THE CORNER GOT THE LITTLE JUNKYARD ON THE JUNKYARD.
ALL OF HIS LAND ON THE LEFT HAND AIN'T NOTHING BUT A SWAMP.
THAT'S SWAMP. THERE'S ONLY 10%. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN 10%. IT IS. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
IT COST A FORTUNE TO KEEP IT UP. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SWAMP LAND PICTURE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THIS IS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL IT.
SEE, THAT'S PARCEL NUMBER 31. I THINK IT'S 31.
I GOT MY EYES. I CAN'T SEE 31. RIGHT. AND THEN IT SAYS THERE'S FIVE ACRES AND HIS LITTLE SHED UP ON.
THERE YOU GO. TEN FOOT ON THE SIDE FROM THERE.
THAT'S ALL. HE OWNS IT. HE CAN USE. THE REST OF IT IS SWAMP.
THERE'S A DITCH THAT COMES ACROSS. HE DUMP ALL THE WATER RIGHT THERE.
IT COMES RIGHT DOWN BY MY DRIVEWAY. NOW, I'LL PUT A NICE ENTRYWAY TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THERE, BUT IT'S. MOST OF IT IS SWAMP. OKAY, SO THAT POND DOESN'T HAVE MUCH UTILITY.
SO IF YOU WERE TO MAKE THE THE NEGATIVE TEN -20, IT WOULD MAKE THE VALUE OF THE LAND.
LET ME SEE HERE 115 600 FOR A TOTAL OF JUST UNDER 400,000.
3.99 AND 600,000. I COULD I COULD LIVE WITH IT.
I THINK IT'S HIGH, BUT I COULD LIVE WITH IT, BRO. SAY THAT AGAIN. THE VALUE OF THE LAND.
115 600 AND THE. OH, GOSH. THE MAKING ME ADD NOW 284,000 FOR THE FOR A TOTAL OF 3.99 600. OKAY.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LAND BE VALUED AT 115 SIX BUILDING TO 84, WITH A TOTAL OF 3.996. DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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AYE. OPPOSITION. SO, MR. JONES, YOUR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 725 MERCHANT'S HOPE ROAD. THE NEW ASSESSMENT WILL BE ONE. 15 SIX FOR LAND.284 FOR THE HOME. FOR A TOTAL OF 399. 600. YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. THE NEXT SANDY RIDGE ROAD I GOT, I GOT I THINK I GOT THIS DECK THE DECK GETS. I CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
THE NEXT ONE IS JAMES AND TARA JONES. IT'S A 0.825 ACRE LOT ON SANDY RIDGE.
SEVEN K, PARCEL NUMBER, ENGINE 710. JIMMY HAS A PIECE OF PAPER THAT I DID LIKE.
WE DID. AND THAT IS FOR ISSUES. ALL THE LOTS ONE THROUGH 12 THAT'S THERE AND THE PROPERTY IS NOT. WHY IS SOME OF THE PROPERTY I ACTUALLY WENT BACK AND DID ALL OF IT.
ONE THROUGH 12. SOME OF THE PROPERTY'S NOT UNIFORMED.
SOME OF THEM WENT UP ZERO, OTHERS WENT UP 40%.
OTHERS WENT UP 35%. AND THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THING.
IT'S GOING TO BE ALL DUPLEXES RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT.
AND I, I, I COMPLAINED ABOUT 11 AND 12. BUT THOSE HAVE RESOURCE.
IT'S AN UNDER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. SO IT'S ONLY ONE ACRE OF BUILDABLE LOTS.
SO I JUST DON'T IF THE PROPERTY VALUES IF YOU DID IT'S JUST NOT UNIFORM.
IF YOU DO ALL OF THEM FROM ONE THROUGH TEN NONE OF THEM ARE EQUAL.
AND I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY COMPLAINED ONE THROUGH NINE, BUT I DIDN'T.
BUT IF YOU SEE THAT PIECE OF PAPER THAT JIMMY HAS, JIMMY, DO YOU HAVE THAT ONE HAS GOT THE PERCENTAGES WRITTEN ON THEM? YES. OKAY. YES. PASS IT AROUND HERE AM I? GIVE IT TO YOU.
THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE PIECE OF PROPERTY. ROAD SAFETY RIDGE IS NOT WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
I MEAN, AND NO IT'S NOT. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE OWN.
YOU SEE SOME OF THE DUPLEXES GOING TO BE SIT BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOME REAL NICE DUPLEXES. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT IS A LOT OF LOT. YOU GET TO THE BACK OF THE LOTS AND IT SHOOTS WAY UP.
AND WE HAVE TWO LOTS IN THE BACK. IT BACKS UP TO BIRCHES ESTATES.
IT'S SWAMP AND SO. AND BUT THAT WASN'T ZONE. IT WAS ONLY A SECTION OF LAND DOWN.
DOWN WHERE YOU SEE THAT LINE RIGHT THERE. THAT WAS A ZONING MARK FROM YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
AND YOU CAN SEE UP THERE WHERE THE ROAD KIND OF BEEN, WHERE THE ROAD IS. AND OUR LAND UP.
AND WE HAVE A BUILD A HOUSE BEHIND DUPLEXES. THEY'RE NOT VERY MARKETABLE.
SOMEBODY MIGHT BUY IT, BUT I GOTTA PUT A ROAD UP TO THE TOP OF IT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SEWER THERE. IT'S UP ON A MOUNTAIN.
UP ON THE HILL. WAY UP ON THE TOP. IT'S A LARGER PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT IS SWAMP.
THEY GOT THE LITTLE PRETTY THING. LOOKED LIKE SWAMP. LET ME TAKE YOU UP THERE. IT IS.
HIGH SPOT. YOU GOT LESS THAN ONE ACRE OF BUILDABLE LAND RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT THEY HAVE TO BE RA, WHICH IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL.
WHICH MEANS YOU GOT TO HAVE AT LEAST A I DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT.
SUPPOSED TO BE FIVE ACRES WITH IT. TARA, THEY LET YOU GET BY WITH ONE? HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.
WHICH ONE? THE TWO. UP ON THE HILL. THE TWO THAT YOU HAVE.
THE PIECES OF PAPER, JIMMY. I DIDN'T BRING THAT WITH ME. I ONLY HAD LIMITED SPACE.
OH BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE OVER FIVE ACRE LOTS, BUT ONLY BECAUSE OF SWAMP.
THE THING IS, WITH THEM, WE HAD TO PUT THEM ON THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.
AND SO THERE'S ONLY ONE BUILDABLE ACRE OF LOT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY THAT A LOT OF THESE HAVE EASEMENT RESTRICTIONS.
THERE'S A UTILITY EASEMENT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.
WE HAVE THE BECAUSE UTILITIES HAD TO GET ANOTHER EASEMENT FROM US.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR ME. OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE LISTENING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT. WE HEARD YOU. DOES ANYBODY NEED THIS DOCUMENT BACK OVER HERE? ANYBODY NEED IT BACK? DID YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M I'M IN A DUPLEX.
YOU DON'T GET NO MORE RENT FOR IT. AND IF YOU LOOK OVER, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ON THE ROAD? IT GOES FLAT AND IT SHOOTS UP LIKE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MOUNTAIN.
AND YOU GET UP ON TOP AND IT'S A LITTLE LOW AND THEN BOOM.
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THE VERSUS ESTATES. AND A LOT ON THE CORNER IS BIGGER BECAUSE IT'S UP ON THE CORNER.AND NOW THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING THEY WANT US TO PUT UP THERE WHERE THEY CAN READ THE METERS REMOTELY, GAVE THEM THAT EASEMENT. YOU KNOW, THEY NEVER PAID US FOR IT, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO.
IF IT'S A DUPLEX LOT, IT'S A DUPLEX LOT. YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY REALLY, ALL OF THEM SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS. THEY ALL HAVE EASEMENTS. BECAUSE THEY PUT THE ROAD.
AND WE GOT TO EXTEND THE ROAD FURTHER FOR THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S A HINDRANCE FOR US. I MEAN, IT REALLY IS.
THAT'S TIME, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. I'M SORRY. THAT'S TIME, I KNOW.
WAITING FOR THE COUNTY. WELL, A LOT OF THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP.
I HAVE ON THE MAP HERE THE ONE PARCEL THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
KAY. IT HAS A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT OF 0.65 BEING APPLIED, WHICH I THINK WOULD COVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO MY MY QUESTION I HAVE I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE JONES.
ALL THESE LOTS THROUGH HERE FROM K OVER HERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ALREADY BUILDING ON THESE OVER HERE WHERE THERE'S ADDRESS POINTS, YOU SEE 66, 93. YOU'RE ALREADY BUILDING DUPLEXES. OVER HERE.
ARE THE REST OF THESE LOTS BUILDABLE? DO YOU THINK YOU COULD BUILD IT? I'M. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED NOW. I'M A LITTLE SLOW.
YES, SIR. ALL THE LOTS ARE BUILDABLE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALL I'M GOING TO BE.
THREE FLAGS ARE ALL GOING TO BE BUILDABLE, BUT I.
MY MAIN THING IS WHY AREN'T THEY ALL EQUAL IN AMOUNT? IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING. ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO HAVE A DUPLEX.
MY QUESTION IS SOME OF THEM WENT UP 0%. SOME OF THEM WENT UP 35%.
SOME OF THEM WENT UP 40%. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME.
ME NEITHER. LET ME, LET ME LET ME SOLVE THIS.
THEY OUGHT TO BE ALL THE SAME. I MEAN, IT CAN'T BE ZERO IF Y'ALL CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
HE'S BEGGING ME TO. DOROTHY, Y'ALL HAD TO COME TO A RESOLUTION WITH US.
WHAT DO WE SAY? BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
GIVE ME A SECOND. IF Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A BATHROOM BREAK, I CAN LOOK AT THE THE REST OF THEM.
OKAY. AND AND IF Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, I'LL LOOK AT THE OTHER ONES.
THAT'S GREAT. WE TAKE A BREAK TO 20205. THAT'LL BE SIX MINUTES, SEVEN MINUTES, TWO MINUTES, SIX MINUTES. WHATEVER. AT 2:06 P.M..
ONE MORE MINUTE. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. JIMMY CAN'T TALK.
WELL, I TOLD YOU TO TALK. THIS IS MOST OF THEIR STUFF.
SO WHAT I DETERMINED IS THAT THERE IS VERY, VERY MARGINAL VARIABILITY IN THE WAY THESE THESE ALL THESE LOTS ARE ASSESSED. AND THERE IS NATURAL VARIABILITY BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE HALF ACRE.
SOME OF THEM ARE 0.6 OF AN ACRE, SO THEY VARY BY A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS, BASICALLY 2 OR $3000, NOT MORE THAN FIVE. BUT AND FOR NO DISCERNIBLE REASON, TO ME, THIS ONE HAD A 0.65 ADJUSTMENT. THIS ONE HAD A 0.61, 0.65, 0.6, 0.65, 0.6.
AND IT JUST ALTERNATED BETWEEN THE TWO ON ALL THESE LOTS.
SO LIKE THE ONE THAT I HAVE PULLED UP IN FRONT OF ME, THIS ONE HAPPENS TO HAVE A 0.65.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL DO IT RIGHT OR NOT. THIS ONE HAS A 0.65.
LET ME SEE IF IT'LL GO BACK TO THE POINT. IT'S NOT OKAY.
SO LET ME JUST LET ME PULL UP ON THE OTHER ONE.
I KIND OF WENT RANDOM. YOU WANT THIS OPEN FOR YOU? WOULD YOU. THIS ONE HAS 0.6. SO IT WAS A VERY SMALL THING.
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SO I RECOMMEND NO CHANGE GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALL BUILDABLE.THERE IS SOME VARIABILITY BUT IT'S MINOR. SO BASICALLY IT VARIES BY SIZE.
AND THEN IT ALSO VARIES BY THE ADJUSTMENT 0.6 TO 0.65.
I'M SORRY WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT.
SO THE ONE THAT WAS UNDER APPEAL IS LOT TEN, WHICH IS AT THE VERY END, WHICH HAS ALL THE LIKE THAT'S WHERE PRINCE GEORGE UTILITIES MADE US CLEAR.
AND IT'S ALL IN THE EASEMENT. YEAH. ALL THE PARCEL NUMBERS.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR THE IS IT. WE'RE WORKING ON SEVEN K.
YES. CORRECT. WELL SEVEN WHAT SEVEN K HAS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
BUT SEVEN K IS A BUILDABLE LOT. THEY'RE ALL BUILDABLE LOT OKAY.
SO ALL ONE BUILDABLE LOT. SO THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS NO CHANGE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN. I MEAN, I, I REVIEWED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT EQUAL TO THE ASSESSED PROPERTY VALUES ON COMPARABLE PROPERTIES AND IT'S NOT. OTHER ONES WERE WAY LOWER THAN THIS PROPERTY.
AND THIS HAS AN EASEMENT. YOU ARE NOT DOING ANY LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS.
WHEN I COMPARED I COMPARED YOURS TO ALL THE ONES THAT ARE ON THIS ROAD.
ALL THE ONES, ALL OF YOUR LOTS. SO THESE ARE RELATIVELY UNIFORM.
THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY UNIFORM BUT THEY'RE RELATIVELY UNIFORM.
SO BASED UPON THAT I CAN RECOMMEND NO CHANGE ON THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
K WHAT WERE THE WHAT WAS THE OTHER LOSS ASSESSED.
I DON'T HAVE THEM. OKAY. SO I HAVE A LOT. I DID A LOT FIVE, SIX AND SEVEN.
SO I'M REQUESTING FOR MIDDLE OF THE ROAD 34 FIVE.
YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF TEN. THE ONLY REASON IT'S BIGGER IS ON THE CORNER. IT'S FULL OF EASEMENTS.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW, I KNOW.
I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT. SO THIS ONE HAS A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT.
MAYBE THIS ONE. IT IS BIGGER AND THEREFORE MORE.
SO MAYBE WE GIVE A UTILITY EASEMENT OF WHATEVER.
LET ME THINK. LET ME FIND IT REAL QUICK. IS IT A POWER LINE EASEMENT? IS IT A GAS LINE? WHAT IS IT? SEWER LINE EASEMENT.
THEY ARE. THEY ALL HAVE UTILITY EASEMENTS. BUT THIS ONE IS WHERE THE POWER COMPANY.
I MEAN, IT'S MY WHOLE ISSUE IS. SO I REVISE MY MY RECOMMENDATION.
IT HAS MORE ACTUALLY EASEMENTS THAN PROBABLY THE OTHER NINE.
I REVISED MY RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL POWER LINE EASEMENT TO MAKE IT $100.
33. 100. WITHOUT. HONEY. YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME THING AS MOST OF THE OTHER ONES.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU. IS THAT. IS IT SEVEN K? YES, YES. SORRY. I'M SORRY. SEVEN K? YES. 31 WHAT? 133. 100. HOLD UP. 33. 100. YES. THANK YOU.
DID YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LOT THERE? NOPE. I HAVE 11 AND 12, WHICH IS UP AT THE TOP.
AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.
AND I MEAN, THEY'RE THE LARGER LOTS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S ONLY ONE ACRE OF BUILDABLE LOT.
SO I'M ASKING FOR $50,000. OKAY, WAIT JUST A MOMENT.
LET'S GET SEVEN K. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT THROUGH ASSESSMENT ON SANDY RIDGE ROADS, THAT LOT SEVEN K BE REDUCED TO 33,100.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. LET'S VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. NEGATIVE. SAYS A MOTION PASSED FOR LOT SEVEN K.
WE REDUCED THE ASSESSMENT TO 33,100. GOT IT. THANK YOU.
THE NEXT TWO LOTS. I BELIEVE THE NEXT ONE IN ORDER WOULD BE SEVEN L AND 7M7L.
LOOKS LIKE THERE AT THE END OF A CUL DE SAC. OR IS THAT WHAT THIS WORD IS RIGHT HERE IN THE AREA? NO, THAT'S JUST THE ONE. THAT'S JUST A LEAN TO GET UP TO IT.
OKAY, THEY ARE LARGE TRACKS. THE COST OF SWAMP LAND WILL PROBABLY KNOW THERE TO GET UP THERE.
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DUPLEXES ON IT, BUT IT WON'T ARE A BIG HOUSE.SO THEY ASK, YOU KNOW, WHO WANTS TO BUILD A HOUSE BY LOOKING AT SOMEBODY FROM THE ROOFTOP A FEW PLACES BEHIND YOU? THAT'S GOT SOME ISSUES THAT MAKE IT WORK, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE THEM $50,000.
SO. SO BOTH OF THESE LOTS L AND M CAN SUPPORT A HOUSE THEY CAN SUPPORT.
EXCUSE ME? THEY CAN SUPPORT A HOUSE ON EACH LOT.
OKAY. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE SWAMP.
WELL, YOU GOT TO GET A ROAD TO IT. AND THEY GOT TO HAVE A SEWER LINE EXTENDED TO IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PRINCE GEORGE CAME AND SAID YOU GOT TO RUN SEWER. IT'S GOING TO COST US $20,000 ON THE SEWER UPPER.
THIS IS ONES THAT ARE ON TOP OF THE HILL. ON TOP OF THE HILL.
YES, MA'AM. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK OUT THE BACK, YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF ALL 44.
SHORTY FORBES, OLD HOUSE. YEARS AGO, WE HAD TO DO A PUMP STATION.
NO, WE GOT TO PUT PUMPS IN. OKAY. AND ACTUALLY, ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE ALL THE STUFF UP THERE.
HAS GOT TO HAVE A PUMP. IT'S GOT A LOT OF ISSUES, A LOT A LOT OF IT'S GOT TO PUT PUMPS ON EVERY ONE OF THESE AND RUN A NEW TRUNK LINE, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LET US TIE INTO THEIR LINE AND MAKE US PUT SEWER IN.
VERY EXPENSIVE. I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF LAND, BUT A SWAMP LOOKING AT SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD. COUNTY. JASON. SO THERE ARE A 0.85 RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT, AND THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED ZONING ISSUES.
0.85. SO THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THERE ISN'T ANY LIKE WETLANDS, QUOTE UNQUOTE. BUT THERE IS RPA WHICH IS THIS GREEN.
YOU KNOW, SO THE RPA DOES EXTEND TO THE REAR OF BOTH LOTS, BOTH L AND M.
SO, YOU KNOW YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY IF, IF OTHER PROPERTIES HAVE AN RPA ADJUSTMENT OR NOT, BUT I MEAN, I THINK THE ZONING ISSUE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, THESE APPEAR WERE R ONE OR R2 R2, AND THESE OTHER ONES AT THE BACK WERE SOMETHING LESS INSIDIOUS.
RESIDENTIAL. AGRICULTURAL? YEAH, THEY WERE LESS DENSE.
SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW TO ME. TO ME, THAT'S A RESTRICTION TOO, BECAUSE IT'S.
YOU CAN'T PUT A DUPLEX UP THERE. OH, NO. YEAH.
SO IT HAS AT LEAST THIS ONE OVER HERE. IT HAS THE 0.85, WHICH WOULD TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT.
SO THE ONLY QUESTION IS THE ZONING ISSUES. MAYBE WE LEAVE THAT AND WE APPLY A TOPOGRAPHY OF, YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T LIKE SOMETHING IN THIS THING CALLED A RPA.
YEAH. I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE FOR A. YES, SIR.
RESOURCE PROTECTION AREA. YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT.
YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT THAT YOU DO NOT DISTURB IT.
WELL, I GOT MY TROUBLE FOR DOING THAT IN THE PAST.
I KNOW WHAT IT IS. THAT'S NOT GOOD. JASON, DO WE HAVE ANY NOTES ON THE THE ZONING ISSUES? ADJUSTMENT. WHAT? WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT? UNFORTUNATELY, I DO NOT KNOW.
WHAT ARE YOU. I'M GOING IN AND OUT. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T SEE ANY NOTES DIRECTLY HERE ABOUT THE ZONING ISSUES.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT A VISION. WHAT THAT MEANS.
YEAH. YEAH. WE CAN HEAR YOU. YEAH. I'LL BE QUIETER.
I CAN'T HEAR. OH, WE CAN'T HEAR WHO WE ARE SCREAMING IN THE BACK.
WE CAN KIND OF HEAR YOU, BUT. OKAY, WELL, SO THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE UNSATISFYING BECAUSE WITH THINGS LIKE ZONING, WE TYPICALLY IN A REASSESSMENT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY NOT YOU KNOW, ZONING IS SORT OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY LOOK AT.
YEAH. NO NO, NO. I'LL JUST YOU ALL COME BACK AND PICK ME UP.
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE THIS. YEAH. OKAY. ONE SECOND.
WE HAVE WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE SPEAKING. HANG ON. SHAWN.
OKAY. YEAH. I'M GETTING OFF. SO JUST BE QUIET FOR A MINUTE, HONEY.
WE GOT IT. GO. GO AHEAD. SEAN AND MR. TORELLO.
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CAN YOU SEE THE THE. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES, YES.SO WITH RESPECT TO ZONING, MY ANSWER IS SORT OF UNSATISFYING IN THE SENSE THAT WHAT YOU KNOW, VISION DOES IN ANY REASSESSMENT IS WE WE WILL EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY, EVALUATE SALES, SET RATES ASSOCIATED WITH YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TYPES AND CLASSIFICATIONS, ETC.
AND SO. SO THE ANSWER IS SOMEWHAT UNSATISFYING.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER OTHER THAN TO SAY ZONING WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A THING THAT WE WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW, REVISED OR OR TAKEN A DEEP LOOK AT THIS PART OF OUR REASSESSMENT.
OKAY. THANK THANK YOU. SEAN. WHAT DID YOU TAKE? DOES THAT ADDRESS THE QUESTION? YEAH. I THINK YEAH, I THINK THEY THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SEAN. WE APPRECIATE YOU JUMPING IN.
SO WHAT I RECOMMEND IS, IS AND WE PROBABLY DO THIS FOR THE SAME THING FOR THE OTHER LOT, MAKING THE ZONING. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD LEAVE IT AS THE WAY IT WAS ZONING, BUT I THINK THE RPA NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED SOMEHOW, RIGHT? THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I DON'T SEE.
A AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SELECT THE CORRECT CATEGORY.
TOPOGRAPHY IS THE ONLY THING THAT I'M THINKING OF BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LIKE AN RPA DIRECT.
MAYBE IT WOULD BE WETLAND. IT WILL. MAYBE WE'LL JUST DO IT. WETLANDS? YEAH. MAYBE WE'LL MAKE THAT WE KNOW WHAT 0.7 THAT'S ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOT.
SO I GOT THE SAME THING. IT'S NOT CALLED RPA BUT IT'S YOU DID .07 INSTEAD OF 0.7.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD SOMEBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION.
OKAY. SO IF WE WERE TO TO TO MAKE IT WETLANDS 0.7, MAYBE MAKE THAT WETLANDS TWO THAT WOULD MAKE IT 52. AND I THINK THAT'S CLOSE TO WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL. L AND L'M TO BE TAKEN DOWN TO 52,000.
NO, THE OTHER ONE NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S GOT MORE ACRES.
SO I SUGGEST WE TAKE IT ONE AT A TIME. WE CAN DO THE SAME ADJUSTMENTS, IF YOU'D LIKE.
OKAY, SO ONE AT A TIME. OKAY. IT'S A LOT. L. I MAKE A LOT OF 11.
JIMMI. SO THAT'S ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHEN YOU GO UP.
OKAY, I MAKE A MOTION THAT LOT SEVEN L BE REDUCED TO 52,000.
TOTAL ASSESSMENT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? IT WAS 63 TWO.
I ASKED FOR 52ND. A MOTION FOR 52,000. DO I HAVE DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE.
ANY OPPOSITION MOTIONS CARRIED. THE NEW ASSESSMENT ON LOT SEVEN L FROM 63 2 TO 52,000 EVEN. NOW LOT. L'M.
IT'S STILL THE SAME THING AS LOT 11. SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE SAME 0.7 ADJUSTMENT.
NOW HERE'S THE MAP AGAIN. SO YOU CAN COMPARE.
THIS ONE WAS THE LAST ONE WE DID. THIS ONE WAS ZERO POINT.
IT WAS M ON THE RIGHT HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. SO THIS WOULD BE THE ONE IF YOU'RE GOING UP AND BE ON YOUR LEFT, SIR. LIKE ROUGHLY DOUBLE. I WAS GOING TO SAY DOUBLE THE GOOD SPACE ON 7 A.M..
YEAH. WHAT I THINK COMES DOWN, THAT'S A RAVINE COMING UP THROUGH THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TO YOUR RIGHT. SORRY. WITH THAT AN ERROR. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHITE AREA, IT'S ROUGHLY TWICE THE SIZE OF SEVEN L BESIDE IT. WELL, YOU GOT THAT POINTER.
YOU GO BACK UP INTO THE SIZE OF THE RAVINE. YEAH.
AND THEN ON THE WHAT, A BLUE LINE OVER ON TOP OF IT.
IT GOES STRAIGHT UP. IT'S STILL ONLY ONE ACRE OF USABLE LAND.
I'D LIKE TO DONATE IT TO SOMEBODY. MAYBE IT'S A PRESERVE SOMEWHERE.
WE DO. WE HAD TO DO THAT. THAT'S WHY IT'S UNDER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.
WE HAD TO DO THAT. WE HAD TO GIVE BACK. BUT THEY DON'T PAY THE TAXES ON IT.
THEY JUST. THEY JUST SAY WE CAN'T DO NOTHING WITH IT.
THEY DON'T PAY THE TAXES. I WON'T GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY. THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
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I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M TRYING TO TURN ON THE CONTOUR LINES, BUT I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND THEM.SO MAYBE WE DO 0.75 OR 0.8 INSTEAD OF 0.7 IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH. JUST MAKING AN OBSERVATION. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT.
I DON'T FEEL SUPER STRONGLY ABOUT IT EITHER WAY.
BUT IT IS TWICE THE USABLE LAND ACCORDING TO THIS.
IF WE'RE USING THIS GIS MAP AS OUR GUIDE, AND THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE IT'S SHOWING THE THE PROTECTION AREA, THERE IS TWICE THE WHITE AREA. THERE YOU GO. THAT'LL TELL YOU RIGHT THERE.
SEE THAT THAT HILL RIGHT THERE. THAT'S ALL YOU CAN BUILD ON ROUGH STUFF.
IT GOES DOWNHILL. I GO, IF I GET SNOW ON IT, I CAN SKI ON IT.
I SERIOUSLY SIR THAT THAT PROVES IT RIGHT THERE.
THAT SHOWS YOU. THAT SHOWS IT IS IT'S TEN TEN FOOT.
BUT I MEAN YOU CAN HAVE A GOOD, DECENT WHITE, YOU KNOW, WALKOUT BASEMENT THERE, YOU KNOW, NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH YOU CAN SEE THAT.
AND THEN YOU GOT TO BUILD A ROAD ALL THE WAY FROM SANDY RIDGE ROAD TO GET TO IT. OKAY.
IT'S JUST NOT INSTALLED YET. SO YOU'RE SAYING UNLOCK EM IN THAT 50 AREA? THE CIRCLE? THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE THERE. YES, MA'AM.
JUST TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE RIGHT. YES, MA'AM.
I HAVE SIX ACRES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACREAGE IS.
YOU GOT ONE ACRE MAXIMUM, BUT YOU CAN DEAL WITH.
I MEAN, YOU WANT TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, MOVE DIRT AND GET PERMITS. YEAH. I CAN FLATTEN OUT. I SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT THEY DID ACROSS THE STREET WHEN HORTON DID. AND THEN I'M GOING TO FALL OFF THE HILL FOR IT.
WELL, I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. I SHOULD HAVE DID THE SAME THING RIGHT HERE.
YOU KNOW SOMETHING? I TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME. I PUSHED THAT DIRT DOWN, LEVELED IT OUT, AND SOLD TO SOME SUCKERS FROM OUT OF TOWN. NO, I'M.
I'M SERIOUS. YOU'RE RIGHT. I AM SERIOUS. OKAY.
JASON, WHERE ARE YOU? ON EM? WELL, IF WE IF WE DID .75 INSTEAD OF 70.
IT WOULD BE 66,500. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DID 70 TO MAKE OF THEM EVEN.
STEVEN. OH. IT WOULD BE 62,000. SO I WOULD TEND TO GO 62,000. YOU WANT TO BUY IT SO QUICK AND MAKE YOUR HEAD SWIM? I MEAN THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS.
Y'ALL REAL ESTATE PEOPLE DO NOT SELL ANYTHING. YOU HAVE A RETIRING NOW, BUT YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO TRY TO SELL THAT THING FOR $62,000 AND YOU LAUGH YOU OUT OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND HE'S GOT UP THERE TO BUILD A HOUSE ON Y'ALL.
IT'S NOT EVEN A POSTAGE STAMP. NO, IT'S NOT EVEN A POSTAGE STAMP.
RAVINE. JUST LIKE THIS. WE'RE DOWN IN THE NICKELS NOW.
YEAH. DOESN'T MATTER. I MEAN, I KNOW, BUT STILL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $20 REAL TAXABLE VALUE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO REDUCE US YEAH.
I NEED A MOTION. DO WE WANT TO CHANGE IT? OR DO WE WANT TO LEAVE IT THE SAME? THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS WE TAKE IT DOWN TO 62 FIVE.
IS THAT CORRECT? 62. EVEN 62. 62. EVEN.
I MOVE THAT WE ADJUSTED DOWN TO THE 62,000. BASED OFF OF THE NEW REVISIONS. DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? I SECOND IT OR DISCUSSION. SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION.
ABERNATHY WAS HESITANT TO SECOND IT. WHAT WAS YOU HESITANT TO SECOND IT? WELL, I SAID IT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. I THINK 62 IS STILL A LITTLE HIGH FOR THAT PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN BE ADJUSTED ANYMORE BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE IT'S UP THERE AND IT DOES ALL SORTS OF ROLLING AND ROCKING UP THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW UNLESS HE PUTS A DUPLEX UP THERE RIGHT NOW, HE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE ZONING.
CORRECT. HE'S ON OUR ZONING AS COMPARED TO OUR TWO ZONING IN THE FRONT.
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SO TO ME, THE ZONING IS STOPPING HIM FROM BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN BUILD A REGULAR HOUSE UP THERE.AND IT'D BE EASIER TO TO BUILD A DUPLEX UP THERE BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU CAN RENT THAT OUT AND PUT A HOME UP THERE. I DON'T THINK IT'S FEASIBLE. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF WE IF WE WERE TO TO MAKE A 10% ADJUSTMENT FOR TOPOGRAPHY, IT WOULD BRING IT DOWN TO 55,900. I THINK THAT SOUNDS BETTER. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S BETTER.
OKAY. SO PROBABLY MAKE THE SAME ADJUSTMENT ON BOTH THOUGH, RIGHT? THE SAME. WELL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE SAME PERCENTAGE WITH THE SAME TOPOGRAPHY ADJUSTMENT, SAME ZONING, WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO CALL IT.
TREAT BOTH PARCELS THE SAME. I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH TREATING THEM THE SAME, BUT I DO DISAGREE THAT LIKE THE SLOPE IS AS BAD AS JUST LOOKING AT THE CONTOURS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PUT A HOUSE THERE WITH A NICE WALKOUT BASEMENT OR WHATEVER BECAUSE IT BASICALLY CHANGES 20FT.
YEAH, OVER. YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE LOT, WHICH IS 7 OR 8 ACRES.
IT WAS 20FT DROP OVER PRETTY GOOD. YOU KNOW. SO I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, BUT.
YOU GO UP ON TOP OF THAT HILL AND YOU LOOK OVER.
YOU LOOK OVER THE TOP OF A TWO STORY DUPLEX. YOU CAN LOOK OVER THE ROOF OF THAT THING A 20 FOOT, BUT YOU ALSO LOOK DOWN. IS THIS A POND RIGHT HERE IN THIS BLUE AREA? WELL, THAT'S SWAMP. SWAMP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NO.
POND. SWAMP. SWAMP. OKAY. THAT'S NOT A POND. I CAN'T SEE IT, BUT I'M SORRY.
NO, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN NICE. IT WAS POND, I WOULD.
JASON, WHAT WAS THE LAND ASSESSMENT IN 22 AND 23? OKAY, SO IT WAS A NEWLY CREATED LOT. YEAH. SO IT DIDN'T HAVE AN ASSESSMENT.
YEAH. SO IT'S ONLY EVER BEEN PROPOSED AT 65. WELL, 65,300.
SO EITHER AT EITHER 155 9 OR 62, WE'D BE BELOW WHAT IT WAS.
IT'S BEEN LEVIED AT 65,300 WHEN IT SINCE IT WAS PLATTED.
SO WE'D BE TAKING IT DOWN ABOUT 10%. FROM THE HISTORICAL ONE.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WAIT A MINUTE.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. YES. WE'RE ON THE STAGE.
DO YOU WANT? WELL. THAT'S RIGHT. DISCUSSION STAGE.
SO LET'S VOTE ON THAT MOTION, WHICH WAS AT 62.
CORRECT. IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM SECRETARY? YES, MA'AM.
YOU HAD 62 AT FIRST, BUT THAT HAS SUBSEQUENTLY CHANGED.
RIGHT. WE'RE ON DISCUSSION STAGE NOW. SO. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO TAKE IT DOWN TO 62,000. ALL IN FAVOR TAKING IT DOWN THAT 62, WHICH IS THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL RIGHT. THERE WAS TWO R'S OPPOSING AND NO ONE ACCEPTING.
SO. AND TWO. SO I'D LEAVE TWO VOTING AGAINST IT AND TWO NONCOMMITTAL.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SO THEN THE CHAIRMAN WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECIDING VOTE.
IS THAT CORRECT? MR. ATTORNEY? WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT.
SO FIRST I'D SAY IS THAT I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD VOTE.
I DON'T WANT ANYONE ABSTAINING FOR CONFLICT REASONS.
I GUESS I WOULD RATHER. AND MAYBE WE CAN'T WITHDRAW THE MOTION.
CONTINUE TO DISCUSS WHAT THE VALUE SHOULD BE, AND THEN WE ALL VOTE AGAIN.
WE CAN'T MODIFY THE MOTION. IF SOMEONE CAN MOVE TO MODIFY THE MOTION TO A DIFFERENT VALUE.
IF WE WANT, WE CAN. YES. OKAY, THEN THAT'S OKAY.
WELL, WE'LL GET STUCK IN THE PROCEDURE AND NOT GET THE BUSINESS DONE RIGHT.
NO I AGREE. SO PROCEDURALLY SPEAKING, WHERE WE'RE AT, AS YOU MADE IT MR. EVERETT MADE A MOTION FOR 62,060 OR 62,000 FLAT.
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CORRECT. SOMEONE AT THIS POINT COULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT AMOUNT TO WHATEVER THE OTHER AMOUNT IS.AND THEN WE WOULD VOTE ON THAT AMENDMENT. DOESN'T THE PERSON THAT MADE THE FIRST MOTION NEED TO AMEND HIS MOTION? NO. SOMEONE ELSE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT MOTION.
OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO BACK. MR. EVERETT MADE A MOTION.
MR. ABERNATHY SECONDED 62. I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE MOTION.
THE. YOU'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION? I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE EMOTION MOTION TO 55 NINE.
TOTAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE LAND. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE ASSESSMENT ON LOT ILM TO 5950 590 55 NINE. PROCEED BY SAYING OPPOSITION. MR. JONES, YOUR PROPERTY ON LOCK ELM WILL BE TAKEN FROM 75 3 TO 55 NINE. OKAY, OKAY. THEN WE HAVE J J.
J OUR BUILDER. WHERE'S JACK? ARE YOU SHOWING HIM OUT? I DON'T KNOW, FIVE. FIVE. THREE ACRES, SEVEN J.
SANDY RIDGE ROAD. DID WE ALREADY DO THAT ONE OR NO.
DID THAT. THAT NUMBER TEN. HOLD ON. LET ME GO GET MY STAR.
I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY DONE. DEFINITE PARCEL NUMBER.
000, WE SEE YOU SEVEN J ON THE SCREEN. PLEASE SHOW ME.
SEVEN J. I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE OH, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER DOING THAT ONE.
WAIT, WHAT? WHAT IS THAT? SO A B C D E IT'S THE ONE RIGHT BESIDE THE ONE ON THE END.
OH, OKAY. SO THIS ONE GOT FROM THE CORNER, ONE IN FROM THE CORNER ASKING FOR A $300 REDUCTION.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE. I MUST'VE NOT MADE A COPY OF THAT.
I APOLOGIZE. SORRY. WELL, JIMMY, I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT FOR YOU EITHER.
WHAT DID I ASK FOR? THAT $300 ADJUSTMENT. $300 ADJUSTMENT? I THINK I WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, BUT. SO YOU'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW? NO. GIVE ME $300. YEAH, GIVE US 300. IT'S A TAX ON.
OKAY. THAT'S A DIFFERENT WAY. OKAY. ARE YOU WITHDRAWN.
J OR DO YOU WISH TO GO FORWARD WITH YOUR $300 DEDUCTION? I JUST I KNOW THEM BY LOT. SO THIS ONE IS ONE IN FROM THE CORNER.
SO IT'S THIS IS ONE INSIDE FROM THE ONE THAT HAD THE POWER LINE EASEMENT.
I DID THAT ONE. AND IT SAID BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
YEAH, IT SHOULD BE ALL EQUAL. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.
OKAY. I MEAN, IT SAYS ON THE APPEAL APPLICATION, IT SAYS BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
OR DID IT SAY THE APPEAL? DID IT SAY I GUESS I DID.
I DON'T REMEMBER DOING THAT ONE I APOLOGIZE. EQUALIZATION APPEAL APPLICATION.
YES. YEAH. MADAM CHAIR ONE JASON HAS A COMMENT.
YES. NO, NO, I WILL SHUT YOUR MOUTH. OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY I DIDN'T THINK YOU DID.
OKAY. DO YOU WISH TO GO FORTH WITH THIS PROPERTY ON LOT J? YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT. YOU'RE FINE WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF 30,300? I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT. OKAY, SO THAT IS, I THINK, WITHDRAWN.
I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY GOES DOWN ALL THE WAY TO TO.
GEE, THOSE ARE ALL THE SAME LOTS IN A ROW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
YEAH. SO. SO THEY'RE ALL THE SAME. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW OR NOT, BUT I.
I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY THINKS THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY EQUALIZED, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WITHIN A REASONABLE RANGE OF EACH OTHER FOR THOSE SO AS YOU CAN GO DOWN, ALL THE ONES ARE ABOUT 30 TO 33,000.
UNTIL YOU GET TO THE ONE AT 50,000, WHICH IS SEVEN H.
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YEAH, RIGHT. THAT'S PROBABLY I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE NEXT ONE THAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE REST OF THOSE LOTS THAT ARE ON THE FRONT OF THE ROAD, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL WITHIN BETWEEN 30 AND 34,000, I THINK. YEAH. THE ASSESSMENT. I THINK SO. OKAY.
SO WOULD YOU MAKE A STATEMENT WITHDRAWN. OKAY.
LOT 7J7D, SEVEN F AND SEVEN G.
I WONDER IF YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW THEM. WELL, JIMMY, I DON'T HAVE THEM.
I DIDN'T THINK THEY DID THAT. I THOUGHT THEY WERE BRINGING IT UP WHEN I WENT TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, BUT NOT FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION. AND I MADE COPIES OF EVERYTHING, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY.
I KNOW THAT, HONEY, YOU'RE PRETTY EFFICIENT. NO. I'M NOT.
OH. IT'S OKAY. I DON'T SEE WHY ALL THESE LOTS AREN'T THE SAME.
MISS CRAWFORD SHOWING Y'ALL THE. GREEK TO ME ON IT.
THIS IS SEVEN J. YES, MA'AM, I DON'T KNOW, I GOT IT BY ABC.
ONE. 234. I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS SEVEN D, SO THESE ARE ALL SIGNED BY HER? YEAH. I'M SO SORRY THAT, LIKE, I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS SEVEN F SHE'S GOT WOUND UP.
NO. I THINK SEVEN H IS THE SAME. THE SAME ONE.
IT'S IT'S ALSO 33. SEVEN G, OF COURSE. AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY ALL DO IT. HONESTLY, ALL THIS ONE'S ROOM ONE THROUGH TEN SHOULD ALL BE UNIFORMED OR NOT.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. THERE'S A MOTION COMING ON THE FLOOR, PLEASE.
I'LL JUST HOLD UP THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. BE QUIET.
LOT TEN. STOP! TARA. TARA. TARA. BEAR. BE QUIET.
HEY, Y'ALL. WE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ALL RIGHT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT LOT. SEVEN J THROUGH SEVEN G.
WE'VE DISCUSSED PARTIALLY ALREADY ARE AFFIRMED AT THEIR CURRENT ASSESSMENT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON.
MOVE FORWARD. DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSITION? SO THAT LOT SEVEN J 77 F AND SEVEN G ARE AFFIRMED AT THE WITH WITH NO CHANGE THEIR ASSESSMENT WITH NO CHANGE. NOW WE'RE ON H. NOW WE'RE ON EIGHT.
HELLO. THAT'S IT. NOW WE'RE ON PARCEL H. H IS THE SAME.
IT'S THE SAME. LET ME. SO IT'S IT'S IT'S IN THE SAME.
ITS ASSESSMENT IS 32. AND IT'S IT'S IN THE SAME AS THE REST OF THESE.
YEAH. SO WE JUST NEED TO. I'M SORRY. I JUST REALIZED THAT AFTER THE FACT.
THE NEXT ONE, H IS 50, H IS 50,300 OH OH 520.
I REALLY LIKE. I'M SORRY. SO ONE SECOND. DID THAT MOTION, PLEASE? I DID, ELIZABETH, ALL OF THOSE. YEAH. TWO AFFIRMING.
AFFIRMING. RIGHT. OKAY. SEVEN H WE'VE GOT AN ASSESSMENT OF OVER 50,000.
WELL, THIS THIS ONE, IF YOU LOOK, LOOK IT UP ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM.
IT'S IT'S NOW AT 32 EIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE I, I CHANGED IT.
SO APPARENTLY OUR SPREADSHEET IS WAS INCORRECT.
OKAY. THERE IT IS. SO ORIGINAL TOTAL WAS 50. AND ON THE RIGHT IS NEW TOTAL IS 32 EIGHT.
SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THE WRONG COLUMN. MY APOLOGIES.
SO THIS THIS ONE H HAS BEEN STATED NOW AT 32,800.
WHAT WAS IT, 50,000 OFF OF H. SOMETHING TO 32,000 FROM 50 TO 32.
SO IN SUMMARY, CONSISTENT WITH THE ONES WE JUST DID.
YES. YES. SUBDIVISION. YES. YES. ALL OF THEM IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION.
THE REST OF THEM THERE I THINK ARE GOING TO SUSTAIN NO CHANGE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CHANGE THE ASSESSMENT ON SEVEN H TO 32 EIGHT, OR CONFIRM THE COUNTY ASSESSMENT AT 30 28A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? SO THE NEW ASSESSMENT AND LOT SEVEN H IS 32,800.
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OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOT ONE A THIS ONE HAD. LET ME BRING IT UP ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM. I'M PLAYING CATCH UP HERE. WHAT WAS THAT MOTION? WHO MADE THAT MOTION? I MADE THE MOTION, AND KEVIN SECONDED FOR 32 EIGHT.THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. TRY TO GET OVER STRAIGHT.
OKAY. THE NEXT ONE IS LOTS. ONE A. 030. ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS ONE'S PULLED UP THERE. I'M GOING TO PULL IT UP IN THE AERIAL.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKE A ROAD OR SOMETHING. ARE WE STILL IN? I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT. I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT A SMALL PARCEL IN BETWEEN TWO HOUSES THAT ARE ON JEFFERSON PARK ROAD.
THAT IS AN EASEMENT TO GET UP TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY UP ON THE TOP.
IT BELONGS TO THAT PARCEL. THAT'S THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT'S THAT. THAT THING. LITTLE SKINNY THING. THAT'S HOW YOU GET UP TO THE TOP OF THE HILL.
YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT.
JUST A SECOND. THAT'S WHEN JEFFERSON PARK ROAD THAT'S NOT ON SANDY RIDGE IS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
YEAH. OKAY. Y'ALL ARE BACK ON JEFFERSON PARK WHERE BOOGIE'S HOUSE IS.
I AIN'T GOT NO IDEA WHERE WE'RE AT. YEAH, SEE, I THINK, WHAT DATE WERE THOSE SIGNED? IT. I DON'T HAVE THE BACK PAGE. YEAH. NOPE. WE DON'T HAVE 28, 20, 20.
I'M LOOKING AT ONE AT JUNE THE 20TH. I'M LOOKING AT ONE APRIL THE 28TH.
I GOT THREE DIFFERENT ADDRESS. OKAY. AND SO WE'RE.
WE'RE WHAT? GIVE ME THE PARCEL. SEE, BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE PARCEL NUMBERS UP HERE.
AND THEN THE SUBJECT ADDRESSED. A LOT OF THEM WERE UNKNOWN, BUT I ALREADY KNOW THE ADDRESSES.
SO DO YOU ALL SEE THE PARCEL NUMBER UP AT THE TOP? WHAT ARE Y'ALL UNDER? 23 A010A0030. IT'S 1.06 ACRES.
WHERE IS THIS LOCATED? I MEAN, WE'RE GOING. OH, THAT'S NOT A YOU.
YOU SKIPPED ONE. OKAY. EXCUSE ME. 001A032300A0021A THAT IS SIX ACRES. THERE'S NO TWO. IT'S 23A010, A001A RIGHT, 0.23 ACRES I HAVE NO IDEA, JIMMY.
AND LIKE, I DON'T HAVE THAT. AND I KEEP, LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON? ASSESSED AT $1,100. AND WE'RE REQUESTING THE THE.
THE ASSESSMENT VALUE. IT'S THIS $100, MR. JONES.
MR. JONES, IT'S THIS SLIVER OF PARCEL ON JEFFERSON PARK ROAD.
CAN I ACCEPT A LITTLE CLOSER? CAN YOU? CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THE COMPUTER SO HE CAN SEE SOME PARK? YEAH, YEAH. WELCOME TO OUR WORLD RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT. FRONT ROW, EIGHT FIVE, 801. IS THAT MY SHOPPING CENTER? NO, THIS ISN'T THAT WHERE BOOKIE LIVES? BOOKIE LIVES RIGHT THERE.
I THOUGHT WE'D ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT. I KNOW THIS THE FIRST TIME.
WELL, THEY DON'T EXIST BECAUSE THE OWNER MADE THAT ONE UP.
HERE IT IS. THERE WE'RE TALKING IN BETWEEN. HE DIDN'T MAKE IT UP.
WE AIN'T DONE A DAY WITH ANYONE THAT'S BEEN THERE EVER SINCE WE KNEW, BUT I DIDN'T ARGUE THAT.
THAT'S WHY I'M LIKE, SO I RECOMMEND WAIT. PLEASE STOP.
PLEASE STOP TERROR. HOLD. STOP SHOUTING. THANK YOU.
OKAY, LOOK. SO THIS APPEAL WAS FILED, I RECOMMEND THAT I RECOMMENDED THE BOARD.
JUST MOVED TO A FIRM. SEEMS LIKE A SMALL PARCEL OF PROPERTY SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
YEAH, THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AFFIRM THIS ASSESSMENT.
SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.
OPPOSED. THE ASSESSMENT WILL BE AFFIRMED AS STATED BY THE COUNTY, WHICH IS $1,100, WHICH IS $1,100. I DIDN'T ARGUE THOSE. THAT IS OFF OF JEFFERSON PARK.
THAT IS MY GRANDMOTHER'S SPACE. I DIDN'T I HAD APPEALED THEM WITH THE THE THANK YOU.
PLEASE. PLEASE STOP. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STOP FOR A MINUTE.
I UNDERSTAND. KILL ANY OF THOSE. I'M FINE WITH ALL OF THAT.
OKAY, FINE. SO WHICH APPEALS TO YOU? WHICH WISH TO WITHDRAW? YEAH, I KNOW YOU DON'T MIND. $1,100 IS FINE. I KNOW, OKAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO IT. GOOD. BE QUIET.
THEY'LL GET MAD. BE QUIET. PLEASE. ALL RIGHT.
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I CAN'T JUST JUST BE QUIET FOR A MINUTE. I'M SO CONFUSED.NONE OF THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT. SOMEBODY EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
OKAY. THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO APPEAL? THEY GOT ALL DAY. WE GOT FIVE MORE. I'VE GOT FIVE MORE.
HONEY, I'S BRICK HOUSE. FORGET ABOUT THE BRICK HOUSE.
IS THAT. IS THAT IN THE NAME OF THE BUILDER? YEAH. BUILDER. OKAY, SO WE'RE DONE. I BOUGHT YOU A PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER ON. SO YOU NEED TO CONFIRM THAT. OKAY. WE GOT TWO OF THEM. WE'VE GOT ONE MORE TO AFFIRM BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE BUILDER. ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. THEY DON'T WANT. THEY DON'T WANT ME.
I'LL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AFFIRM THE ASSESSMENT ON 23A010 ALPHA 0030. JAMES AND TARA JONES. SO AFFIRM THE ASSESSMENT AS IT STANDS TODAY.
SECOND, WHAT IS THAT ASSESSMENT? 72 THREE. 72 THREE IS WHAT I'M SEEING NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RIGHT. LET ME PULL IT UP REAL QUICK.
THREE ZERO. WE HAVE. THIS IS A ONE ACRE TRACT OF LAND AT 33A010A0030. GO LOOK AT THIS. WE HAVE THAT ONE AT 47,000. EVEN. 47? YES, MA'AM. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE LATEST GREATEST IS ON THIS COLUMN.
THE NEW. IT'S IN THE SECOND COLUMN OVER FROM 70 73,000.
NO IDEA WHERE HE IS. THERE'S A MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
THERE WAS A WORKSHEET SENT OUT, I THINK TUESDAY EVENING THAT HAD THE LIST.
I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE WORKING OFF OF.
OKAY. SO 47 WAS THE NUMBER. THE FIRST COLUMN IS FROM THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT.
AND THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WHERE. I'M BRINGING IT UP RIGHT NOW.
SORRY I HAD TO. SO THIS ONE IS ON THE CORNER OF JEFFERSON PARK AND MICAH DRIVE.
OKAY. LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE LITTLE SLIVER.
WE WERE OKAY. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. SO IT'S.
IT WAS ON THE OPPOSITE CORNER OF THE HOUSE. WAS JUST BUILT NOT LONG AGO.
YEAH. OKAY. SHE'S NOT. SHE'S NOT? YEAH. THERE'S NO CONTEST.
YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE MOVING ALL THE TIME. WE JUST NEED A VOTE. I JUST NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. YES.
OKAY, SO IT'S REAFFIRMED. YES. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON IT. YEAH, WE NEED A VOTE.
I MADE THE MOTION. WE NEED A SECOND. ELIZABETH.
SECONDED. ELIZABETH. SECONDED. OKAY. AND WE NEED TO VOTE.
DISCUSSION. NOW LET'S VOTE TO REAFFIRM THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. MOVING ON. NOW WE'RE TO THE BUILDER ONLY. WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT ABOUT THESE OTHER ONES? THESE FOUR OTHER ONES? CAN YOU SAY FOUR OTHER ONES? LET'S JUST PICK A PARCEL THAT WE THINK IS COMING UP NEXT.
12345678. WE'RE DOWN TO THE JAMES R JONES BUILDER PARCELS.
01400. SO ONE SECOND LET'S LET'S JUST SO WE CAN CLEAR THIS UP.
WHAT IS THE PARCEL THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT WE'VE MISSED. WELL I'M ASKING ABOUT WAS THAT 070000C0.
LOOKS LIKE I'M SORRY. REPEAT THAT NUMBER, PLEASE.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING OFF OF. WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
OH, OKAY. NEVER MIND. OKAY. YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO CLEAR THAT UP.
I GOT YOU. OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON. GOT THAT? OKAY. 12 E01000140 JAMES R JONES, BUILDER. OKAY.
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NOW, THIS IS A 1.07 ACRE TRACT.CARIBOU COURT HOUSE. YES, SIR. BRICK HOUSE LANDING.
YEAH, BUT I DON'T I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. IS THERE ANY OF THEM THAT YOU YOU HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON THEM? ARE THEY ALL. ALL OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT. GOVERNMENT THEY HAD AMONG THE REBELS.
I MEAN, MY MAIN THING IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SEVEN ACRES I CAN'T HEAR, BUT A LOT OF THE STUFF I DIDN'T DO FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, I PULLED THEM OUT AFTER AND I DID WITH THE ASSESSMENT.
BUT THE THREE, THE THERE'S FIVE IN BRICKHOUSE THAT I WANT TO ARGUE.
OKAY. SO THE ATTORNEY NOW IS SPEAKING FOR THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE THAT HAVE BEEN APPEALED TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY.
SO CAN YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY THE PARCEL, THE NEXT PARCEL NUMBER THAT YOU ARE ASKING TO APPEAL? OKAY. I DON'T HAVE THE PARCELS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.
I DID THE PARCEL NUMBERS AT THE VERY TOP, AND I HAVE THE ADDRESSES.
PARCEL NUMBERS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE ONE, 378, ZERO.
WAIT A MINUTE, ONE MINUTE. WAIT JUST A SECOND.
WAIT JUST A SECOND. ONE MORE TIME. I DON'T SEE THAT ONE.
OKAY, WELL, THREE OF THEM ARE THE EXACT SAME.
THIS ONE'S 137. EIGHT TWO. ONE. RIGHT. I CAN GIVE YOU PROPERTY ADDRESSES. THAT'S 6005 CARIBOU COURT. LOT 14 6005 CARIBOU COURT.
OKAY. SO LOT 14, 15 AND 16. ALL THE SAME LOTS.
THAT'S ALL. PAUSE. REAL QUICK. PAUSE REAL QUICK.
THANK YOU. SO I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THE EXACT APPLICATION.
HERE ARE EACH ONE OF THOSE LOTS ON A SEPARATE APPLICATION.
OR ARE THEY ON THE SAME APPLICATION? NO, I HAD TO USE SEPARATE.
SAME APPLICATION. LET ME DO IT TOGETHER. OKAY.
LET'S NOT ALL TALK AT ONCE, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
SO THIS FIRST THIS FIRST APPLICATION. WHAT ARE THE PROPERTIES ON IT SO THAT WE'RE ALL PLAYING TOGETHER? EXCUSE ME. YES. THERE'S THREE SEPARATE APPS. WE HAVE THREE.
OKAY. SO CAN 14. ONE FOR 15 AND ONE FOR 16. OKAY.
THANK YOU. SO LET'S START WITH PARCEL 14. LET'S COME TO A RESOLUTION ON THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL THEN WE'LL MOVE TO IT'S 15 AND 16.
CORRECT. FOR FOR CLARIFICATION ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PARCEL ENDS IN 0140.
YES, SIR. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW AT THE CONVERSATION.
THAT'S THE ONE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M BRINGING IT UP ON THE MAP SO WE'LL KNOW WHICH ONE.
THIS ONE IS BESIDE A HOUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS RECENTLY BUILT AT 6001 CARIBOU COURT.
RECENTLY. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T SAY RECENTLY, BUT.
OKAY. THE HOUSE THERE. CAN WE HAVE OUR FIVE MINUTES OF JUST.
OKAY. YES, YES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
GUYS, I'M LIKE OUT. I'M MISSING MY WHOLE. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? NONE OF THIS IS MAKING SENSE TO ME. THEN JASON MAKES HIS ARGUMENT, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION.
THAT'S THIS. THIS. THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
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ARE STILL ONE, 13780. WHICH IS 6005 CARIBOO COURT.YOU ARE ASKING THE LAND TO BE TAKEN DOWN FROM 102 500 TO 54,000.
IS THIS CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, JASON, CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? CAN YOU MAKE A REBUTTAL? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT THIS PARCEL? DESCRIBE WHAT IS UNDER. IT'S NOT DEVELOPED. IT HAS NO DRIVEWAY IN IT.
IT'S NOT CLEARED. IT'S NOT LANDSCAPED. NOT GOING TO STAND A LOT.
THAT'S FULLY DEVELOPED. THIS IS NOT. IT'S JUST A WOODED PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE HAVE NEVER SOLD A LOT. NO ONE IS $60,000. OKAY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON. I CAN'T. OH, JASON.
ALL RIGHT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THERE'S NO WETLANDS.
IT'S GOT ROAD FRONTAGE. THERE'S ROOM TO PUT A DRIVEWAY.
IT LOOKS NORMAL. BUILDABLE LOT TO ME. I HAVEN'T SAID IT'S NOT.
I RECOMMEND NO CHANGE. YES, THAT. DON'T GO AHEAD.
WHAT IS THE LOT NEXT DOOR WITH THE HOUSE ON IT OR THE.
WITH THE HOUSE ON IT? OKAY. ASSESSED THAT THE LAND.
THAT'S LANDSCAPED DRIVEWAY, CONCRETE RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF IT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASSESSED. I NEVER GOT THAT WHEN WE BUILT THEM, BUT THEY WON'T.
RETAIL MEANS CLEARING IT. DRIVEWAY IN CURB. YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
WATER AND SEWER ON THAT LINE. THAT'S AN IMPROVED LOT.
THIS IS AN UNIMPROVED LOT. IT'S JUST A VACANT LOT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING. THE LOT.
THE LOT BESIDE IT IS AT 103,500. SURE, IT'S GOT A DRIVEWAY.
IT COST 18, $20,000 TO PUT OUT. PUT THEM IN 18 TO $20,000.
YOU GOT A SEWER TAP? WE'VE GOT A WATER TAP PUT IN.
YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS LANDSCAPING, CLEARING. OKAY, LET ME LET ME TRY TO RECAP THIS FOR JUST A SECOND.
IT LOOKS LIKE LOTS 14. LOT 15. LOT 16. YES, MA'AM.
ALL ABOUT SITE. ALL ON CARIBOU COURT. NO, MA'AM.
IT'S TWO OF THEM ON GRAY STONE. GRAY FOX. EXCUSE ME.
FOR THESE THREE LOTS THAT ARE ALL RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN, FLASHING IN BLUE.
THEY'RE ON CARIBOU QUARTZ. WHAT? I'VE GOT 6005 GREAT ONES IS GREAT.
CORRECT. NO, 14, 15 AND 16 IS ON CARIBOU COURT.
NO THEY'RE NOT. I THINK IT'S A THE FRONTAGE, THE DEEP TO WHAT? LOT 15 IS ON THE CORNER OF CARIBOU AND GRAY FOX.
LOT 16 AS FRONT ON GRAY FOX. YES. AND LOT 14 IS IN THE CUL DE SAC OF CARIBOU COURT.
CORRECT. THAT'S 14, 15 AND 16 IS ON CARIBOU COURT FOR THE SUMMER.
TO SUMMARIZE THE ISSUE. THEY ALL HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE.
THEY'RE ALL BUILDABLE. THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO HAVE ANY TOPOGRAPHY, WETLAND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THAT LOT 14 IS HAS NO LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS AND IT'S VALUED SIMILAR TO THE ONE LOT TO THE LEFT OF IT, WHICH YOU ASKED ME TO PULL UP RIGHT NOW. WHAT IS THE PRESENT ASSESSMENT ON THOSE THREE LOTS ON? OKAY. SO 14 IS 1025 15 IS 1021 AND 16 IS 1022.
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THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT. SO LIKE, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ADDING MONEY FOR HOUSES.THE DRIVEWAY. REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY WITH THE COMMERCIAL PAVING ON COMMERCIAL.
WE ARE ADDING FOR HOUSES. WE HAVEN'T. WE COULD IF THE COUNTY CHOOSE TO, TO DO IT.
WELL IT'S NOT A, A FACTOR THAT WE'RE CAPTURING CURRENTLY.
THEY ALL SEEM TO BE LIKE THEY COULD HAVE A HOUSE BUILT ON THEM.
THEY HAVEN'T PRESENTED ANY EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY.
SO I RECOMMEND FOR LOT 14, 15 AND 16 THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE.
OKAY. CAN I HAVE A REBUTTAL A LITTLE ONE? SHOW ME SOME COMP SALES.
IF SOMEBODY HAS PAID $101,000 FOR A LOT IN THE BESTEST OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE IS NONE. I AGREE. I DO TOO. I MEAN IT. IT IS ALREADY IMPROVED.
I KNOW. YEAH, I AGREE WITH IT, HONEY. WE, WHEN WE FINISH UP A HOUSE IS $80,000. THAT'S GOTTEN TO DRIVE OVER $8,000.
I WENT TO A BANKER AND SAID, GIVE ME SOME MONEY ON $100,000.
LOOK AT ME. LAUGH AT ME. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'D LIKE THE ASSESSMENT TO BE? NO MORE THAN 75. OKAY. NO MORE. YEAH, I AGREE.
I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT. WELL, PLEASE. I'M SAYING I UNDERSTAND. I REALLY DO. I DO MAKE A MOTION FOR WHEN I MAKE THAT MOTION. I'M ABOUT 65. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR LOTS.
14, 15, 16 ON CARIBOU COURT VIEWPORT TO BE LOWERED TO A MAXIMUM OF OF 75,002. 75,000 TO 75,000. THANK YOU. EVEN. STEVEN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
I DID, THEY SAID I CAN. YES, THE ATTORNEY SAID I CAN MAKE IT.
DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE AYE. I MEAN, LET'S RAISE HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
ONE. TWO. THREE. FOUR. MOTION. OH, I DID, I DID.
THANK YOU. SORRY. ANY OPPOSITION? ON LOT 14, 15, 16. WE MOVED THE ASSESSMENT FROM 125 TO 75,000.
75. YES, SIR, I KNOW. GO FIGURE.
AND WE HAVE TWO MORE LOTS IN THERE ALSO. OKAY, WE HAVE A THIS.
GIVE ME A SECOND HERE. LET ME GET IT STRAIGHT.
ON. 3714 GRAY FOX DRIVE. WHICH IS PARCEL 13782, LOT 16, GRAY FOX DRIVE. NOPE. THAT WAS THE ONE WE JUST WENT THROUGH.
THAT WAS ON GRAY FOX. NOW, I THINK YOU HAD TWO OF THEM.
GRAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE DOWN TO THE OTHER END. I THINK YOU HAVE TWO ON IMPALA.
THEY KEEP ON SAYING THEY'RE ALL ON CARIBOU, BUT THEY'RE NOT ON THE SAME QUESTION.
THEY'RE SAYING ON THE COURT OR NOT. WHICH ONES? ANDY LIVE ON. JASON, CAN YOU PULL THAT UP AGAIN? YES. BEAR WITH ME. I'M SORRY. I'M STILL DOING MY PAPERWORK FOR THESE OTHER LOTS.
BUT GIVE ME ABOUT 30S LATER AND I WILL PULL IT OVER.
I WOULD LIKE THAT UNDER 75. APOLOGIZE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE FOR THEIR HEARINGS.
JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THIS STRAIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. I CAUGHT UP WITH MY PAPERWORK.
SO THE NEXT ONE THAT YOU WANTED TO TO SEE. MA'AM, 3714 GRAY FOX DRIVE.
AND I WAS JUST TOLD THAT WAS THE ONE WE JUST VOTED ON ON THIS WOULD BE CARIBOU.
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THIS WOULD BE 20 C IN THE IN 20 C SINCE WE JUST DID ONE 4150 AND 160.OKAY. IT SHOULD BE 160. WE JUST DID THOSE THREE.
SO WE DID 6127. SO LOT 16 IS THE ONES THAT WE JUST DID.
EVEN THOUGH THE ADDRESS IS YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS IS 128 ACRES AND CHANGE. OH WAIT A MINUTE.
NO NO NO NO NO. STOP! STOP, STOP! NO! NOW, GO TO 3819 IMPALA DRIVE, LOT 60.
YEAH. WHICH ONE IS THAT? PARCEL 13821. WHICH BLOCK? YOU DIDN'T PULL IT UP. HOLD ON. HOLD ON. NO, THIS IS LOT 600.
THIS IS 123010000 600. BRING IT UP ON THE MAP, PLEASE.
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, YOU SKIPPED ONE. THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
THESE ARE ALL. THESE TWO ARE IN THE SAME, I THINK, SUBDIVISION.
YEAH, AS. THAT'S WHAT I KEPT SAYING A WHILE AGO.
GRAY FOX, I HAVE IT AS A SEPARATE ONE. OKAY, SO GRAY FOX IS 160. WE'VE DONE THAT ONE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO NOW WE'RE SO WE'RE HERE. BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT NEXT.
THAT'S NEXT ON THE AGENDA. WELL THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.
ORGANIZED CORRECTLY. BUT WE CAN DO BEFORE 0020.
SEE. OH YEAH, I AM, I AM I KNOW THAT I GOT IT I GOT IT.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD GOOD. I GOT IT I HERE IT IS. IT'S A WHOLE SIDE OF.
IT'S ON GRAY FOX. SO? SO STOP ORDER. THAT'S THE ISSUE HERE APOLLO DRIVE.
GO TO THAT ONE. THAT'S THIS ONE HERE. 0200020.
NO. 006 HUNDRED. THAT'S THIS ONE. YEP. THIS IS I'M JUST GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU TELL ME.
YEAH. IMPALA DRIVE 3819, IMPALA DRIVE, PARCEL 13821 IS THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW. OKAY, MADAM, I HAVE THIS ONE PULLED UP IN VISION.
IT'S 1.237 ACRES. ITS CURRENT ASSESSMENT VALUE IS 46,600.
IT'S THIS PIECE OF LAND HERE, A TRIANGULAR SHAPE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.
AND THEN ON THE AERIAL. SO IT APPEARS TO BE AT THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC.
OKAY. THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE, SIR. THANK YOU. CAN I SEE YOU? YES. IT WOULD BE YOUR TURN TO SPEAK NOW. OKAY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SITE AS TRIANGLE, AND THERE'S A MAJOR TRANSMISSION LINE ON THE BACK AND A GAS LINE, WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE WE CAN BUILD A HOUSE ON.
YOU CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE WITH A 28 FOOT DEEP AND, LIKE, 40, 50 FOOT WIDE.
IT'S WITH A SET BOX IN THE R1 DISTRICT. I'VE OFFERED THAT SALE A LOT FOR SALE FOR $25,000.
ANYBODY TAKE IT? NO ONE WANTS IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH IT.
IT'S SUCH A SMALL, BUILDABLE AREA AND A NICE SUBDIVISION.
NO ONE WILL TAKE IT. I MEAN. AND WHAT DO YOU GOT THE ASSESSMENT ON IT FOR 46 SIX.
AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT TO GO DOWN TO 40. WE GOT A CLEAR DRIVEWAY, CULVERT, PIPE, WATER AND SEWER HOOKUP, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. IT'S. A BASIN. LOCATION.
IT HAS A IT HAS A SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNT OF OVER 50% FOR THE EASEMENTS HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
THE SHAPE WOULD WOULD HELP. YES. IT'S TERRIBLE.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE'S A ROAD OR LIKE A LANE. IF YOU PULL IT BACK UP, LEAVE IT ALONE FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE. YOU MEAN BRING THE AREA BACK? YES, SIR.
PLEASE. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT THING, A MAJOR POWER LINE.
I MEAN, THE TRANSMISSION LINE RUNS FROM ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY OF HOPEWELL. THEY MAKE THE ELECTRICITY, RUNS ALL THE WAY UP IN THERE. AND A MAJOR GAS LINE AND ANOTHER UTILITY LINE IN THERE, AND NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE UP AGAINST IT.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THE HOUSE RIGHT BESIDE THAT'S A LONG DISTANCE YOU GET.
NOT A LONG DISTANCE, BUT 100 FOOT WITH SOME TREES.
THAT ONE DOES NOTHING. I MEAN, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
HARDLY. IF WE WERE TO MAKE A 10% REDUCTION FOR SHAPE, IT WOULD BRING IT TO
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42,000. THEY'RE ASKING FOR 40,000. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YES, SIR. 40. SO I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE. MAYBE THE SHAPE NEEDS TO BE BIGGER.MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE 20. MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE TEN.
BUT IT ALREADY HAS. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ADDRESSING MOST OF THE CONCERNS.
SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE THERE.
BUT IT MAY NOT MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'D BE RIGHT UP AGAINST THOSE POWER LINES THAT COULD DAMAGE JUST PEOPLE WITH THEIR EYESIGHT, A VISION. THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT ALL THE TIME.
RIGHT. THEY DON'T WANT IT. AND PLUS, WE'VE GOT A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WANTS TO BUILD A SMALL HOUSE, AND NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO GO BERSERK. YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES THERE TO DEAL WITH.
THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS A VALUE OF $37,300, WHICH WOULD BE BASICALLY BACK TO WHERE IT HAS BEEN.
IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN 37,030 8000 IN TIMES PAST.
SO THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS A VALUE OF 37,303. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LOT BE VALUED AT 37 THREE LOCATED AT 30 819 IMPALA DRIVE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NEXT. WOULD BE ONE ACROSS THE STREET.
ALMOST 37. THREE. THE NEXT ONE IN THE BOOK THAT WE HAVE IS 3806 IMPALA DRIVE, LOT 65, PARCEL 13825. YOU CAN READ THAT.
YEAH, YEAH. THE ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. NO, NO, IT'S 113, EIGHT, 16, BIG CITY.
RIGHT, DEAR? OH SIX 5651 2010006 50. YEP. SO IT'S THIS ONE HERE. IT'S IN BLUE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH IS OPPOSITE ACROSS THE OTHER ONE.
SO YOU'RE RUNNING INTO THE SAME PROBLEMS THERE.
SO IT EASEMENTS ON THE FAR LEFT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MAY HAVE A CREEK IN THERE TOO.
BECAUSE YOU GOTTA STAY OFF. YOU GOTTA STAY OFF 75 FOOT AND ALL.
ONE AIN'T NO BUILDABLE LOT ANYWHERE ON THERE.
WHITE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUILD IT, BUT I DON'T EVEN DOUBT THAT.
BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE ENGINEERS EVEN DID ANYTHING WITH THAT.
IT IS. IT'S NOT JUST THE OTHER ONES. FLAT WHEN WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS REVEALS MAJOR RAVINES.
MAJOR RAVINES. JASON, WE RECOMMEND THE VALUE OF $2,600 BASED ON CHANGING IT TO AN UNDEVELOPED LOT FROM 56 TO 200. IS THIS 3806 IMPALA 3806 IMPALA? THE APPELLANT HAS MADE A STATEMENT THIS LOT WILL SELL FOR 65,000.
TARA M JONES, TREASURER I THINK SHE MEANT THIS LOT WILL NOT.
YES, WELL NO IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT BUILDABLE SIR.
YEAH. JUST GOING BY THE APPLICATION TO TERRAFORM.
DID YOU PUT IT ON THERE? YOU WANTED 66. WHAT DID YOU SAY, SIR? 65. 65. OKAY. YOU SAID IT WOULD SELL FOR 65 K.
THEY SAY YOU GOT AN APPLICATION FROM 65. I THINK IT'S WHEN WE WENT BEFORE THE.
OH, HONEY. SIR, ON THE APPLICATION, SHE'S REQUESTING 44,000.
YEAH. JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON THE WRONG LOT, SIR.
NO WE'RE NOT. YEAH. YOU ARE 65 UP THE ROAD. THIS IS 61.
WE'RE AT 3806. AND PAULA DRIVE, LOT 65 IS WHAT SHE HAS ON HER APPLICATION.
IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OTHER LAST ONE.
I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN BECAUSE HE HAS THE POWER LIGHT ON THE LEFT.
AND YOU HAVE A WETLANDS BASICALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO SQUEEZE A LOT THE HOUSE CLOSE TO THE ROAD OR CROSS THAT LITTLE WETLAND THAT THAT BASICALLY CUTS THE LOT IN HALF AND BUILD ONLY IN THE BACK. EITHER WAY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT SOUNDS LIKE A HEADACHE.
YES. WAIT, WAIT ONE SECOND. JAKE. JASON, ARE YOU OKAY? HONEY, DON'T. PLEASE DON'T BE TO DEATH. PLEASE. GENTLEMEN.
JASON, GO BACK TO GO BACK TO THE. TO THAT. IS THAT PARTIAL NUMBER, THOUGH? YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE THIS IS THE. YOU HAVE THE WRONG PARTIAL NUMBER.
I HAVE THE WRONG. OKAY. IT'S 650659. OKAY. SIX.
OKAY, WELL, I RECANT. EVERYBODY MAKES A MISTAKE, BUT THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE.
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I SEE. OKAY. THIS IS THE 1.029. THAT'S THE LOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.OKAY, WELL, THEN WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ABOUT 65. DO YOU OWN. HE OWNS BOTH OF THEM.
650. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ONE IS A REGULAR SHAPE.
DOES HAVE SOME WETLANDS IN THE BACK LEFT CORNER OF THE LOT AND IN THE MIDDLE.
GET BACK UP HERE, SIR. IT COMES ON UP THERE. ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS ON THE BUILDING ON THE LEFT.
IF YOU WISH TO FACE THE LOT TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE EVERYTHING LOOK LIKE A DOLPHIN RIGHT THERE, COMING OUT WITH THE CHECKERED MARKS IN THERE.
THAT'S A RAVINE. AND IT CONTINUES. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT TO GO FROM 56 2 TO 44,000.
I AGREE ON THAT ONE. MAKE A MOTION. I THINK WE'RE BEING LIBERAL.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LOT 65 ON IMPALA DRIVE AT 3806 BE REDUCED TO 44,000, AS REQUESTED BY THE APPELLANT. CAN YOU CAN YOU 4450 44,000. WE'LL HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
SECOND DISCUSSION. ARE YOU ON THE SAME PAGE, JASON? YES, MA'AM. I'M CHANGING IT NOW. YES. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? TO CHANGE THE ASSESSMENT FROM 56 2 TO 44,000.
SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. FIVE. FIVE.
44. 44,000. 44,000. FOR 3806 IMPALA DRIVE. THANK YOU.
WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE ONE AT THE END? SHE SAYS SHE DIDN'T EVEN APPLY FOR THAT. WHAT, DID Y'ALL REDUCE THAT ONE TO, Y'ALL? YEAH, THAT. THAT'S THE ONE WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR 20 MINUTES NOW.
YOU'LL SAY HE HAD THE WRONG PARCEL UP THERE, JIMMY.
HE HAD THE WRONG PARCEL UP. HE HAD THE WRONG PARCEL UP.
JIMMY. I DIDN'T START DRINKING YET. OH, I'M JUST KIDDING.
WAIT A MINUTE. THIS IS ONE ONE OVER. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
THE ONE THAT'S GOT ALL THE RAVINES IN IT. YOU SAID YOU ALREADY DID. YOU DIDN'T APPLY FOR THAT.
I HAVE ALL EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR IT THAT WE'VE DONE.
I HAVE THREE PIECES LEFT. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. WHAT ARE THEY? PLEASE. ON YOUR AGENDA. I'VE GOT IT. I'VE GOT IT.
GOOD ONE DOWN THERE. YOU DIDN'T ENTER THE ONE AT THE INDUSTRY? WELL, HERE'S ONE OF THEM. 002. OH, YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE WE SKIPPED OVER. OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.
00208 HERE. OH, NO, THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
PLEASE. PLEASE DON'T LET ME. I'M NOT READY TO GO TO JAIL. I GOT TWO SHIRTS.
OH, THIS 10000. THAT'S AN X. SEE THIS ONE HERE? YEP. YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE MORE. OH, Y'ALL BUY THAT TWO YEARS AGO.
2022. OH, YEAH. OKAY, SO YOU GOT THE LAST. YOU GOT THE LAST THREE NUMBERS.
OKAY. THE FIRST PARCEL NUMBER WILL BE 678. TAX ID NUMBER 000080. AYE AYE AYE. AYE AYE. IS AN APPLE AYE O APPLE O ASSESSED AT 82,600. THEY'RE ASKING FOR A REASSESSMENT OF 75,000.
CAN YOU PULL THAT ONE UP, PLEASE? IT'S IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS A 77 ACRE LOT. SEVEN ACRE? NO. YES, IT IS IN BURKE HOUSE LANDING.
ALL RIGHT. DOES THIS LOOK LIKE IT'S THE RIGHT LOT? CAROL, CAN YOU FACT CHECK ME? YOU WANT TO READ THE.
IT'S. WHAT'S THE PID NUMBER? DO YOU HAVE IT? YEAH.
IT'S PARCEL 678. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE.
THIS IS IT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A WOODED PIECE OF LOT THAT'S ACCESSED BY DIRT ROAD.
MAYBE LIKE A PRIVATE ROAD EASEMENT. YES OR NO?
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OKAY. IS THAT A DIRT ROAD EASEMENT GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE? NO, MA'AM. IT DOESN'T. OKAY. GOT IT.WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US ABOUT THIS PARCEL? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, TELL YOU? YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. OH. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.
AND IT'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY. THE PORTION ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T OWN. I DON'T OWN LAND ON THE RIGHT. THAT ROAD THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.
CLOSE? NO, SIR. IT'S 120020000. A IS AN APPLE O. THAT WAS DEVELOPED WHEN I DID THE SUBDIVISION.
THEY WERE THERE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHERE I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THE ROAD.
ONE PARCEL WAS SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT. THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS 300 FOOT WIDE AND LIKE 4000 FOOT DEEP. IT WENT ALL THE WAY TO JEFFERSON PARK ROAD AT ONE TIME, BELONGED TO THE NEMESIS.
MOST OF THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AN EXISTING SUBDIVISION.
ANDY CLARK LIVES THERE, AND WE PARTED A LOT. IT'S LIKE TWO ACRES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT.
RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I OWN.
THERE'S NOTHING ON THE LEFT. AND ONLY HALF OF THAT.
MR. JONES FILLED OUT AN APPLICATION FOR 7.13 ACRES, AND THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE'S LOOKING RIGHT THERE.
IT'S THE PIECE OF LAND ON HER RIGHT HAND SIDE RIGHT THERE.
RIGHT. THAT'S. AND THAT'S A CREEK RIGHT THERE THAT CONTINUES ON ALL THE WAY.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT. I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.
THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. LAYING ON THERE. THAT'S ALL THAT GOES OVER THERE.
SO WHAT HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT YOU ARE QUESTIONING.
NO, THAT AIN'T THE PARCEL. I MEAN THAT'S THE PARCEL.
BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO DESCRIBE IT.
DO I HAVE A BATHROOM? YEAH. YOU. YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.
THAT IS. CAN I POINT TO IT A LITTLE CLOSER? CAN I POINT TO A LITTLE CLOSER? I CAN? RIGHT. COME ON DOWN, COME ON DOWN. DOWN A LITTLE MORE.
A LITTLE FURTHER, A LITTLE FURTHER. THAT'S THE PARCEL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW MINUTES AGO.
THE PARTIAL. BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUBDIVIDED. Y'ALL HAVEN'T PICKED THAT UP ON Y'ALL'S MAPS.
THAT PARCEL THAT THAT IS IN BLUE HAS BEEN SUBDIVIDED.
OH. YES, MA'AM. THAT THAT YOU SEE THE CREEK. YOU LOOK AT THE MAP.
LOOK LIKE MONTANA ON THE RIGHT, RIGHT HAND SIDE.
YEAH, THAT'S OVER THERE. THAT'S OVER THERE. WHERE THE BUILDING IS APARTMENTS CLOSE TO IT.
THAT ROAD, I THINK YOU SEE GOING THROUGH THERE.
IT'S BY THE POWER LINES. AND LET'S. THIS IS NOT THE SCALE.
I KNOW MY PROPERTY BECAUSE THESE THESE LANDS WENT ON BACK IN THE BACK.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT LEAN DIRT ROAD IS A DIRT ROAD RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
I AIN'T GOING TO DO THAT. WISH I DID. I WENT RIGHT THERE.
SO WE DID TWO ACRES. I GOT ENOUGH TO PUT TWO ONE ACRE LOTS IN THERE EVENTUALLY.
SO WE DETERMINED THAT THE GIS, ACCORDING TO HIS HIS TESTIMONY, MAYBE HAS MIS DRAWN THIS, THIS MAP.
BUT WE WE TYPICALLY HAVE OUR GIS LONGE BASED UPON THE LATEST, GREATEST PLATS AND SURVEYS.
IS THAT RIGHT, MISS CARROLL? I'M SORRY. PLEASE SAY THAT AGAIN.
SO THE GIS LINES ARE BASED UPON DEEDS AND PLATS THAT HAVE BEEN RECORDED? THAT'S CORRECT. SO. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS RENDERING IS INCORRECT.
YOU ONLY OWN TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS LITTLE.
YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. IS THAT TWO ACRES APPROXIMATELY? I COULDN'T SAY CHANGE. WAS IT WAS IT SEVEN ACRES AT ONE AT ONE TIME YEARS AGO.
AND IT CONTINUES TO THE RIGHT SIDE. TOWARDS THOSE APARTMENTS.
THE IMAGES THAT HAVE A LOT OF KIDS. WAIT A MINUTE.
MISS CRAWFORD, CAN YOU USE THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE? THERE IS A COPY OF ONE OF THE ASSESSMENTS FOR PID 678 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY 14 POINT 14.27 ACRES. IT WAS ASSESSED AT 82,600. THE APPLICATION THAT WAS FILLED OUT FOR THIS PARCEL IS 82,600. WE NOW CARRY IT AS 7.13 ACRES. SO IF YOU LOOK OVER HERE, THE HISTORY HAS BEEN PULLED UP
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ONTO THE SCREEN. IT USED TO BE 14.27. AND THEN WE PROCESSED A LIKE A SOME SORT OF DEED OR GRANT WHERE WE CHANGED OR CORRECTED THE ACREAGE TO WHAT IT IS NOW AT 7.13.AND SO I'M WONDERING WHETHER ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE IT TWO ACRES.
BUT IF WE ARE EVER PRESENTED A DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN RECORDED THAT SAYS THE ACREAGE IS ONLY TWO, THEN WE WOULD CHANGE IT. WITHOUT YOUR ACTION, YOU KNOW.
KEN, DOES THE BOARD WISH TO TURN THIS ONE PARCEL OVER TO THE ASSESSOR TO GET WITH MRS. JONES AND MR. JONES TO VERIFY TERRY JONES AND MR. JONES TO TEAR, TO CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT HE OWNS HERE.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, MADAM, IS, IS THAT WE WOULD JUST AFFIRM I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD JUST AFFIRMS THE ASSESSMENT AS IT STANDS, AND THEN ADVISE MR. JONES THAT HE SHOULD GO AND FILE A 3980 IF HE BELIEVES THE FACTS.
THE CIRCUIT COURT? NO, NO, NO, NOT THE CIRCUIT COURT. JUST THE 3980 IS WITH THE ASSESSOR AND THEN THE ASSESSOR CAN GO AND CORRECT THE FACTS, AND THEN THEY WILL ALSO ADJUST THE ASSESSMENT ACCORDINGLY. IF, IF THE PLAT THAT IS, IF THE IDEA IS THAT THE GIS OR THAT THIS INFORMATION IS INCORRECT, THEN THAT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE BOE CAN REALLY ADDRESS HERE.
AND SO THE BOE SHOULD SUSTAIN IT. AND THEN MR. JONES CAN GO TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND WITH AND ALSO LAND RECORDS AND CONFIRM THAT THE LAND RECORDS ARE ACCURATE.
AND WHAT WAS THAT FILE. WHAT WAS THAT FILE. THESE.
NOW IT'S THE 3980 WHICH WE HAVE COPIES OF THE APPLICATION.
3988 03980. MR. CALVIN'S GETTING YOU A FILE TO SUBMIT CONCERNING THIS ONE PARCEL OF LAND. AT THE PRESENT TIME, THE BOE IS GOING WITH THE MOTION TO AFFIRM THE ASSESSMENT AS ISSUED.
SO? SO WE CAN CORRECT IT IF WE HAVE A SURVEY OR DEED OR SOMETHING SHOWING YOU TWO ACRES? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. I'LL SAY TWO ACRES. THERE COULD BE TWO AND A HALF NOW.
WELL, IT'S NOT SEVEN. IT'S NOT SEVEN AND A HALF.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION? IT WAS 14. IT WENT ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE.
YOU'LL HAVE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE AFFIRM THE ASSESSMENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF MR. JONES. COMPLETE OF FILE 3980, TO MAKE ANY NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS.
IF THERE BEING IF IF THERE'S ANY NEEDED AND THAT'S THAT'S THAT FORM.
I'LL JUST PUT IT OVER THERE. THAT HAS BEEN SECOND BY MR. ABERNETHY. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE AYE.
IS PARCEL 1200? SO DO I HAVE LEFT OR THIS ONE? THIS ONE 7000 CDC0. WELL OKAY. C ZERO. I'M SORRY ZERO SIX. RIGHT. OKAY. IT'S A CURRENT ASSESSMENTS 121 FIVE.
S PARCEL 706. IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION.
DIVISION. IT IS THE SAME SUBDIVISION RIGHT NOW.
YOU LOST ME ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO, I LOST TWO.
CAN WE GET THAT UP ON GIS, PLEASE? YES. I'M BRINGING IT UP RIGHT NOW.
I ONLY HAVE ONE LEFT. AND THAT WAS THE PARKER PROPERTY. BUT YOU COULD BE CORRECT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE OTHER HALF OF THAT. THAT GIS MISTAKE.
YEAH, THAT'S THE OTHER HALF, THE GIS. WELL, IF I'VE GOT THIS ONE CORRECT.
THAT ONE IN. RIGHT. COME RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHAT I GOT LEFT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE Y'ALL CAME UP WITH THAT FROM. IT'S ALL I HAVE LEFT, RIGHT? MR. JONES. WE ARE LOOKING AT APPLICATIONS THAT'S BEEN FILED, AND THAT'S ALL WE CAN GO BY.
ALL RIGHT. SIR, ARE YOU INDICATING THAT THIS IS INCORRECT? NO. THE ONE YOU GOT RIGHT THERE. YEAH, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PIECE PROPERTY. BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT ACCOUNT NUMBER THAN I JUST GAVE YOU, JASON.
SO WHAT I HAVE PULLED UP IS. THE ENGINE C0, WHICH IS CORRECT? PARCEL 706, WHICH IS THE ASSESSED VALUE IS $79,700.
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SO WE HAVE A RENDERING. NO, WE IT'S NOT IT. THE PARCEL IS 706 NUMBER AND IT'S 0070000C0. OKAY. YES. THIS IS THE CORRECT PARCEL WE HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. YES. AND THIS IS $79,700 IS THE ASSESSED VALUE.IT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN BLUE. OKAY. BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER, HAVE YOU ALL MADE A CONCESSION ON THAT ALREADY? BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WHAT IS ON HER APPLICATION.
WE WE HAVE. NOT THAT. SO THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT IS $79,700.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TO THE RIGHT. THERE'S TWO. I DON'T KNOW WHICH DOCUMENT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THERE'S THE ONE THAT I'M LOOKING AT HAS GOT TWO COLUMNS AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL APPLICATION. I'M LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL APPLICATION THAT SHE FILED.
YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. SO HERE, HERE'S THE LOT.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT THERE IT IS. RIGHT BACKS UP TO IMPALA.
DRIVE ON ONE ON ONE SIDE. AND IT'S GOT FRONTAGE ON GRAY FOX.
A LITTLE BIT AND APOLLO DRIVE A LITTLE BIT. IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE TOPO.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF SLOPE, BUT NOT TERRIBLE.
IF I'M LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY AND THEN YOU COULD, YOU COULD COME ON EITHER WAY.
NO, THAT'S A TRANSMISSION LINE RUNNING DOWN THROUGH THERE.
YEAH, I SEE 30 FOOT DROP. OKAY, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, THERE WAS A THERE WAS A REDUCTION MADE.
THE ORIGINAL VALUE WAS THE 121 900 ON THE APPLICATION.
THANK YOU. THE CURRENT TAX ASSESSMENT IS THE 79 000 THAT MR. COWAN STATED. SO THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT ALREADY MADE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S WHAT I'D ASK. IT HAS NO ROAD ON THE ROAD THERE.
YES, MA'AM. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
OKAY. ANYTHING IN CONSIDERATION? THERE IS A TRANSMISSION LINE ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT.
THERE'S A GAS LINE ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT. THERE IS NO ROAD TO THIS SITE.
NO ROAD. THERE'S NO SEWER, THERE'S NO WATER, THERE'S NO NOTHING.
I JUST GOT 3.2 AND I TOLD YOU IT'S 3.2. I AGREE WITH THAT.
THERE'S A RAVINE IN IT. I GUARANTEE YOU COULDN'T GET AN ATV.
DON'T DO THIS THING. THEY BRING SPECIAL EQUIPMENT IN THERE TO SERVICE RELIANCE.
OKAY. AND YOU SHOW THE BOTTOM THAT'S OF THE WETLANDS.
THEN YOU GOT WET UP THE DAM ON THE SIDE. PUT THAT MAP UP AGAIN, PLEASE.
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 79.7 IS THE.
IS THE NEW NUMBER 79.7? YES, MA'AM, 79,700, IF Y'ALL RECALL THAT ONE.
Y'ALL DID THE TRIANGLE A LOT. IT REALLY BACKS UP TO THAT ONE.
OKAY. MR. COWAN, YOU DID MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT FROM 70 FROM 121 5 TO 7970.
SOMEONE SOMEONE DID. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A POWER LINE ISSUE.
A LITTLE BIT OF WETLANDS. SO IN SUMMARY, THEY HAVE A 40% REDUCTION.
AND I WOULD SAY JUST FROM THE WETLANDS, IT DOES IMPACT A LITTLE BIT OF A CORNER.
BUT TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BUILD A IT COULD SUPPORT A HOUSE.
OKAY. WITHOUT TOO MUCH TROUBLE. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLY DISTANCED FROM THE POWER LINE, WHICH IS ALSO SO THE TROUBLE AND THE LOT IS IN THE BACK, RIGHT WHERE BOTH THE WETLANDS AND THE POWER LINE ARE SO KIND OF THE UPPER, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE REGION IN HERE WOULD BE REASONABLE TO SUPPORT A HOUSE.
AND JUST LOOKING AT IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS SOME RESTRICTIVE SOME WETLANDS AND THIS OTHER SIZE PER LOT. SO I THINK ALL THE ISSUES WITH THE LOT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED ALREADY.
I DON'T RECOMMEND ANY ANY FURTHER CHANGE. KEEP IT AT 79 SEVEN.
YES, MA'AM. NO ROAD FRONTAGE. YOU ADMITTEDLY CAN GET TWO LOTS OUT OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
39. EIGHT. 50 PER LOT. UNDEVELOPED. UNDEVELOPED.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AFFIRM THE ASSESSMENT AT 79,700.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION. NO
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DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE. OPPOSED.SO THE ASSESSMENT WILL STAY AT 79.7. AND THEN I HAVE ONE THREE. IT'S PARCEL 6127. IT'S 30 400. A IS AN APPLE 00020. SEE? PARCEL IS 6127. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IN BRICKHOUSE STEEL, I GUESS, ON BULL RUN ROAD. IS THAT BULL ONE ROAD? I CAN'T TELL. YEAH. THIS IS 121 128 .147 ACRES.
MR. JONES, IS THAT MOLEHILL? I'M SORRY I SAID I GOT A LOT OF LAND, SO I'VE GOT TO FIGURE THIS.
I'M SURE THAT'S IT. IT'S THE ONLY ONE I GOT LEFT IN MY HAND.
ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ON THE BULL RUN ROAD. THAT'S IT.
AND IT ALSO FRONTS ON COURTHOUSE ROAD A LITTLE BIT.
IT SUFFERS. IT LOOKS LIKE AN EASEMENT WHERE SOMEBODY CROSSES THE LAND TO GET TO SOME LAND BEHIND IT, LIKE A CHURCH, PERHAPS CROSSES IT AT ONE POINT.
MR. COWAN? YES. DO YOU WANT TO LET MR. JONES STAY? I'M SORRY, MR. POWELL. MY APOLOGIES. YES. THANK YOU.
BRING A MAP UP, PLEASE. AGAIN? YES, SIR. HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ABOUT THE ROAD GOING TO THE CHURCH.
AND ALL THOSE STREAMS UP THERE STILL HAVE WETLANDS ALL THE WAY AROUND IT.
AT MAN ON THE MAIN ROAD THERE YOU GO TO THE RIGHT.
WHEN YOU PUT THAT LITTLE HATCH MARK THAT IS THE WETLANDS, BUT THEN YOU GOT RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AREA.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT. OH I'M SORRY. OKAY.
THE DARK LINE IS PROBABLY ABOUT RIGHT WHERE YOU CAN BUILD.
WE DON'T HAVE SO MUCH BUILDABLE ACREAGE IN THERE.
VERY LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S 120 ACRES I THINK 128 ACRES.
OH WE PROBABLY GOT 80 THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY WE USE WE HAVE TO EXTEND THE SEWER AND THE WATER THERE.
IT'S NOT THERE YET. THEY JUST BUILT THAT NEW ROUNDABOUT RIGHT UP THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD OR BAD, BUT THEN ANYWAY, YOU GET TO THIS PIECE BY WAY OF, YOU KNOW, LIMITED GO DOWN BULL RUN ROAD AND WE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME ENGINEERING ON IT.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS 70 LOTS. MAYBE. MAYBE BECAUSE YOU GOT A LOT OF WETLANDS IN THERE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING UP IN THAT TOP IS GONE. I MEAN. NOTHING YOU CAN DO WITH IT.
AND WHEN WE PAY FOR IT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IN ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS, IT JUMPED UP LIKE 100, SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS IN VALUE. DID HE PAY FOR IT? AND THAT WAS A VERY COMPETITIVE BID. A LOT OF PEOPLE BIDDING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HENRY PARKER OWNED, AND IT WASN'T LIKE HIGH BITTER WINDS THEY COULD REDID.
SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTED IT AND WE WERE STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY IT.
DIDN'T REALIZE ALL THAT SWAMPING UP IN THE FRONT. WE KNEW IT WAS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
OKAY. MR. CALHOUN, SO WE THE GENTLEMAN PURCHASED IT FOR 641,000, IN AUGUST OF 2022 ON THE PROPERTY. IT HAS A 60% REDUCTION FOR WETLANDS. IS THE ONLY ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS MADE.
THE OUT JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THAT'S A 40% REDUCTION, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
40% REDUCTION FOR WETLANDS. WHICH I THINK IS REASONABLE.
YOU DO HAVE ONE PART OF IT UP HERE AND THEN OVER HERE.
BUT YOU HAVE THE GOOD A GOOD PORTION OF IT THAT IS REASONABLE.
I DON'T THINK THE SHAPE IS AS HORRIBLE. AND THIS EVIL.
ALTHOUGH IT DOES SUFFER AN EASEMENT. IT'S ALSO KIND OF UP THERE WHERE THE REST OF THE WETLAND IS.
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THE MAJORITY OF THE WETLANDS IS. SO FROM THERE UP IS KIND OF NOT THAT USABLE.SO OVERALL, I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S FINE WHERE IT'S AT WITH NO CHANGE.
LORD. NOT NO FURTHER THAN AN OPEN BID WHEN WE PAID AS MUCH.
AND A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WANTED TO BUY IT. IF I DON'T SET THE PRICE, NOTHING DOES.
THEY CAN COME OFF HIS COMPUTER OR THEY WANT TO.
IT DON'T WORK. MR. JONES, WHAT IT IS. SPEAKER I THOUGHT I COULD HEAR HIM.
Y'ALL HEAR WHAT I SAID? YES, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO RECORD IT TO.
OH, I'M SORRY, I MEAN, THE ASSESSMENT IS $7,000 HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT.
YES, MA'AM. AND THAT'S FAIR FOR USABLE LABOR.
BUT THAT'S SWAMP LAND. I WON'T GIVE IT TO YOU.
BOARD DECISION. DO YOU WANT TO AFFIRM IT? DO YOU WANT TO? WHAT'S THE DECISION OF THE BOARD? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION, AT LEAST.
I MEAN, I MY MOTION IS TO AFFIRM AND KEEP THE ASSESSED VALUE AT 648 200.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION. THE REASON I MAKE THAT MOTION IS BECAUSE HE PAID $641,000 FOR IT. HIS STATEMENT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE MARKET VALUE THAN THAT.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHAT WE PAID FOR. I'LL BE ON 641.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE.
OPPOSED? THE ASSESSMENT WILL AFFIRM AS WHAT THE COUNTY HAS.
IT IS 648,200. I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
MR. JONES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WHEN WE ARE.
ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN WAITING.
WE HAD QUITE A LOT OF PARCELS TO GO THROUGH. APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
NEXT ONE, TOM GOODMAN. KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OH THAT'S RIGHT.
SO PART OF WHAT I WOULD PROBABLY DO. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? DID YOU LEAVE YOUR LITTLE STATE WHERE. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN'T KEEP IT.
MR. JONES, YOUR PHONE. OH, LET ME TELL YOU THAT SOMEBODY WILL BE CALLING YOU SHORTLY.
MAY CALL. THANK YOU. BYE. BYE. GOOD AFTERNOON.
I NEED YOU BOTH TO STATE YOUR FULL NAME. VICKY LYNN GOODMAN.
THOMAS. VERY GOOD. WOULD YOU BOTH RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? YES, YES. THANK YOU. FIVE MINUTES. OKAY. OKAY.
WE HAVE THREE PROPERTIES. OKAY. LET'S DO ONE AT A TIME.
I THINK IT'D BE A LOT LESS CONFUSING. OH, OKAY.
THAT'S FINE. PLEASE, PLEASE. FIVE MINUTES ON EACH PROPERTY OR FIVE MINUTES TOTAL.
YES, MA'AM. ON EACH PROPERTY. OKAY. LET'S TAKE THE FIRST ONE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO WE CAN FOLLOW THE ADDRESS OR. WHAT DO YOU NEED? PARCEL. THE ADDRESS OF THE FIRST ONE. 8015 MARLBOROUGH AVENUE.
SECOND. 8015 MARLBOROUGH AVENUE.
ASSESSMENT AT 31. THE IMPROVEMENTS AT 187 RIGHT FOR A TOTAL OF 218 100.
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT PARCEL ID NUMBER REAL QUICK? THREE. CAN YOU SEE IT? THREE THIRD 13070. THANK YOU.
YES. YOU OKAY? ZERO. THEY CORRECTED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALREADY, SO THAT WAS GOOD.
MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT SAYS WE HAVE SEWER AND WATER, AND WE DO NOT NEVER HAVE.
OKAY. WILL. NEVER WILL. I DID CALL THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS FOR ALL THREE OF THEM. I CALLED THE WATER COMPANY BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW IF WE HAD ACCESS.
I THOUGHT, WELL, IF WE HAVE ACCESS, THEN MAYBE YOU CAN CHARGE US FOR THAT FACT.
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AND THE COST IS DRAMATIC. SO ALL THREE PROPERTIES, IT'S DOWN THAT WE HAVE IT.IT ALSO SAYS ON THIS PROPERTY WE HAVE AN OPEN FRAME PORCH SCREEN, WHICH I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS 100%, BUT I THINK IT MEANS WE HAVE A SCREENED IN PORCH.
WE DO NOT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE RL DESIRABILITY ON ALL THREE PROPERTIES. IT'S GOT NUMBER ONE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN TELL ME. IT ALSO SAYS SUBCLASS 002 SUBURBAN ONE DASH 19 AC.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I'VE TRIED TO LOOK IT UP AND THERE'S NO CODE OR ANYTHING FOR ME.
SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. DID THAT INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE TO HAVE THE SCREEN PORCH? DID IT INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE THAT WE SUPPOSEDLY HAVE WATER AND SEWER? AND WHAT DOES AERIAL DESIRABILITY MEAN? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INCREASED THE VALUE.
ALL RIGHT. WE WILL ASK THE COUNTY AND VISION TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS ON THIS ONE PROPERTY.
AND IT ACTUALLY IT MIGHT TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.
I NEVER CAN TELL. THAT'S RIGHT. GIVE ME ONE SECOND HERE.
SOMEHOW IN TWO YEARS THEY GREW. AND THEN WHEN THEY WENT OUT AND MEASURED THEM, THEY SHRUNK.
AND WHEN I HEAR MR. JONES, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $300 SAVINGS.
HE TALKED. HE'S TALKING ABOUT A LOT MORE. WE SAVED BECAUSE THEY'RE MEASURED $297 IN TAX.
WELL, THAT'S ENOUGH TO FEED US FOR A WEEK. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW.
UNDERSTAND ME? YEAH, BUT IT ISN'T A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WHAT? WHAT DOES AN JUST AN OPEN PORCH. I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOT THE THE PORCH ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S NOT EVEN A FULL PORCH ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
BUT IT'S OKAY. SO YOU CHANGED IT FROM A SCREEN TO NOT A SCREEN.
DID THAT OKAY? THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT THERE. IT DIDN'T.
IT DIDN'T IMPACT THE VALUE. IT DID. IT DID NOT.
IT DID NOT. OKAY. THE SECOND THING YOU SAID WAS THAT IT WAS MARKED AS PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
AND YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT A CODE WHICH IT SAYS SUBCLASS 0022.
SUBURBAN. SUBURBAN. RIGHT. ONE DASH 19 AC. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS.
ONE NINE AC IT'S ON. YEAH, IT SAYS SUBCLASS. IS THAT IS THAT A ACREAGE SUBCLASS? JASON? NO IDEA. I DO NOT KNOW, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE THINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT I WILL FIND OUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.
ONE OF THE PROPERTIES DON'T HAVE THAT. TWO OF THEM DO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. IF I COULD SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. MAYBE I COULD TAKE THAT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU. GIVE ME A CLUE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SUBCLASS HERE. THIS. OH, OKAY.
ON THE DESIRABILITY. SO THAT'S THE SAME THING AS WHAT THIS IS THAT THAT'S A LAND CLASSIFICATION, LIKE YOU SAID. SO SO IT'S SO. AND IF IT WAS LESS, IF IT WAS MORE THAN 20 ACRES, YOU'D BE AT CLASS FIVE OR NOW YOU'RE A CLASS TWO. WELL, THIS THIS DOESN'T EVEN HAVE AN ACRE.
IT'S 0.34, RIGHT. SO WHY WOULD IT BE 1 TO 19 ACRES? I DON'T KNOW. THAT IS A MISNOMER, BUT I MEAN, IF I, IF I TOOK THIS AND I JUST TOOK THIS AS BEING, YOU KNOW, AS A LAYPERSON, READING THIS 1 TO 19 AC, AC WOULD IS THE ABBREVIATION FOR ACRE.
THIS IS 0.34. IT'S NOT ONE. IT'S NOT ANYWHERE IN THAT RANGE.
IT HAS NOTHING FOR SUBCLASS. SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT SHOULD SAY 0 TO 19 INSTEAD OF ONE. BUT AS IT STANDS, THIS CLASSIFICATION CODE IS CLASS TWO
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THAT MEETS THE STATE REQUIREMENTS. AS I UNDERSTAND THEM, IT DOESN'T IMPACT YOUR VALUE.OKAY. SO SO FAR WE'VE CHANGED FROM WELL ON SEPTIC I MEAN PUBLIC WATER TO WELL ON SEPTIC.
WE'VE CHANGED THE PORCH AND WE'VE EXPLAINED THE 19 1 TO 19.
IT'S LABELED WRONG ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER WHICH COMES FROM THE WEBSITE.
OKAY, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T CONTROL THE WEBSITE, BUT WHAT DOES RURAL DESIRABILITY MEAN? I THINK I KNOW, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S RELATIVE DESIRABILITY RELATIVE.
SO OUR PROPERTY IN MANCHESTER LAKES THAT WE LIVE AT.
OKAY. LET'S WHAT IS THE. CAN YOU PULL UP THE TAX RECORD ON THIS PROPERTY? IT IS RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN. NO, I MEAN, THE PREVIOUS THE PREVIOUS TAX.
I DON'T THINK I CAN. MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. 24 AND 25 159 NINE, BROKEN DOWN BUILDING. LAND VALUE 27,400. BUILDING VALUE. 132 FIVE 2026 PROPOSED ASSESSMENT BUILDING. 167 FIVE LAND 31 FOR A TOTAL OF 1985.
CAN YOU TELL IF THERE'S BEEN AN ADJUSTMENT MADE BECAUSE THEY HAVE IT LISTED AS THE IMPROVEMENT AT 187 218 FOR A TOTAL OF 218 ONE SO SO MR. JOHN WENT AND MEASURED IT AND HAS ALREADY UPDATED THIS BOTH THE SPREADSHEET AND THIS THIS THING.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AN INCREASE FROM 159 900 FROM THE PREVIOUS.
YES, MA'AM. AND WE DO KNOW THAT HOUSING PRICES HAVE GONE UP.
SO WE'RE NOT QUESTIONING THAT. WE'RE JUST QUESTIONING THE FACT THAT EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS PUT IN, BUT ON ALL OF OUR UNITS. AND NOW THAT IT'S BEEN TAKEN BACK OUT AND WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE NUMBERS THAT THEY ARE.
OKAY. DO I HAVE A MAKE A MOTION. MOTION. THANK YOU.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE LAND STAY AT. WELL, REMAIN AT 27 FOR THE HOUSE AT 132 32.
FIVE. THAT'S. NO, NO, THAT'S THE PREVIOUS. THAT'S THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
1.5 IS EVERYTHING. TOTAL ASSESSMENT SHOULD BE AT 1.985.
I DIDN'T BREAK IT DOWN. 167 FIVE ON THE BUILDING, 31,000 ON THE LAND FOR 2026.
PROPOSED ASSESSMENT. DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? 167 FIVE LAND OF 31 TOTAL. 198 FIVE. DO I HAVE A MOTION? DO I HAVE SECOND ON THAT MOTION? ANY DISCUSSION? SO WE HAVE REDUCED YOUR ASSESSMENT TO 198 FIVE.
YEAH THEY'D ALREADY DONE THAT. WELL BUT YEAH.
RIGHT. OKAY. WE JUST AFFIRMED IT. I AGREED TO AFFIRM IT.
WE JUST HAD TO AFFIRM. OH, YOU DID OKAY. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE.
OKAY. OKAY, WELL, I'M HERE MAINLY BECAUSE I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THE COUNTY FOR MEASURING IT TOO BIG.
FORTUNATELY, WE GOT IT. 8006 SIX MARLBOROUGH AVENUE.
8006 OKAY MARLBOROUGH. FIRST OF ALL, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES ON TAX RECORDS ON THIS PROPERTY? ALL THREE OF OUR PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN MEASURED AND THEY ARE IN OUR COMPUTER SYSTEM.
THIS ONE IS THE THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT IS WHAT'S THE PARCEL, JASON.
OKAY. THIS ONE IS 40020. THAT TWO ZERO. YES. SO THIS ONE IS 1.96 500, DOWN FROM 2067. YES. SO, SO WE WILL GIVE ME ONE SECOND 33,600 FOR THE LAND.
162 900 FOR THE BUILDINGS. AND AGAIN WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS LISTED AS WATER AND SEWER.
YEAH. HE'S GOING TO CORRECT THAT. RIGHT. AND THIS ONE IS WELL AND SEPTIC ONLY.
THERE'S NO ACCESS TO WATER AND SEWER. YEP. AND I JUST CHANGED THAT.
OKAY, GREAT. BUT I STILL HAVEN'T HAD THIS ANSWERED.
WHAT WHAT THAT IS, IS. I I'M SORRY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE LIVE IN BRANCH CHESTER LAKES, AND I WOULD THINK THE DESIRABILITY OF THAT REAL ESTATE IS BETTER THAN WHERE THIS PLACE IS LOCATED.
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SO THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO THE VALUE OF THE LAND.IF YOU KNOW WHERE THESE HOUSES ARE LOCATED. IT IS NOT IN THE LEAST BIT DESIRABLE.
BUT MAYBE I AM. I'M NOT. I DON'T KNOW THE DEFINITION.
WE DON'T EITHER. WE DON'T EITHER. SO I KNOW WHAT I LOOKED UP, BUT YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE THERE.
THE PROPERTIES ARE NICE, BUT IT'S RIGHT AT A TRAILER COURT THAT'S FALLING DOWN, RIGHT? VERY FAMILIAR WITH ON DUTY. BUT WE HAVE NICE PROPERTIES.
EXPLAIN RELATIVE DESIRABILITY, PLEASE. I'M GOING TO PHONE A FRIEND.
HEY, CAN YOU CAN YOU SPEAK IN THIS? I'M ASKING THE VISION FOLKS WHO ARE ON THE CALL VIA TEAMS TO EXPLAIN RELATIVE DESIRABILITY. THANK YOU. PLEASE ALLOW US A MOMENT TO SEE IF THEY CAN.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR US? IF NOT, I'LL CALL THEM. THANK YOU.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH GETTING WORKING.
WELL, THE POINT IS, IF THE LAND IS BASED ON THE SIZE ONLY.
I'M JUST SAYING. OUR PROPERTY IN MANCHESTER LAKES IS A MUCH MORE DESIRABLE LOCATION.
SO YOU'D THINK YOU WOULD TAKE THAT? IT WOULD BE DISCOUNTED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S AT.
WELL, THERE IS A PUMP STATION BEHIND ONE OF THEM, AND YOU GET A BAD SMELL.
I CAN GUESS IT. I FIGURED THAT MUST BE YOUR NEXT ONE.
I JUST THOUGHT OF IT. SORRY. WHICH ONE? BUT THE 8015.
THERE'S A PUMP STATION. OH, YEAH. AND YOU GET THE SMELL, BUT HE BACKS UP.
YEAH, BUT WE RENT THESE PLACES FOR LESS THAN 2000.
AND PEOPLE ARE VERY HAPPY FAMILIES. YOU NEED TO RAISE YOUR RENTS.
YOU DO? YOU KNOW WHAT? IF WE GET GOOD RENTERS.
SO. OKAY. I MEAN, BUT NOW YOU'RE CHARGING SO MUCH, WE MAY HAVE WE'RE OKAY.
DON'T SELL YOU. WE MOVED HERE. WE'RE NOT. WE MOVED HERE THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE HAD RENTALS.
AND WE GOT RID OF THEM BECAUSE WE RETIRED HERE.
AND YOU DON'T JUST WANT TO SELL RENTALS, YOU WANT TO REINVEST.
OKAY. YEAH. SO I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE WHO WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM.
I WON'T I'LL FIND OUT THE CERTAINTY OF THE MATTER IF YOU CALL NEXT WEEK.
SO THEY COULD RATCHETED UP OR DOWN BASED UPON WHATEVER.
BUT IT'S SET AT ONE. SO GRANTCHESTER LAKE IS SET AT ONE, SO.
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SYCAMORE ACRES IS SET AT ONE.
YEAH. AND IT MAY IT MAY BE JUST A BOX THAT THEY HAVE THERE TO TO ADJUST THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO MAYBE THEY'RE ALL ONE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CHANGED IT TO ZERO.
WOULD IT CHANGE MY VALUATION? I CAN'T. IT'S GRAYED OUT.
SO I THINK I THINK IT'S THERE THAT I DON'T EVEN SEE A HOUSE.
MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE IT ZERO. I'M JUST KIDDING.
NO, I JUST WANT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST QUESTIONS.
WELL, HE'S RETIRED. HE'S GOT TIME. THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT WE RECOMMEND.
BECAUSE IF IT'S IF IT'S INCORRECT, WE WANT IT TO BE RIGHT.
I RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE ON. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I DON'T NEED TO BRING UP THE OTHER PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY.
UNLESS YOU HAVE TO AFFIRM IT, I DON'T KNOW, 8100 VICKSBURG DOES NOT HAVE WATER AND SEWER.
YEAH, OKAY. THAT'S THE OTHER PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS ONE FIRST.
OKAY. OKAY. ASSESSMENT AT 196 FIVE. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE ASSESSMENT BE LOWERED TO 1965 AT 8006 MARLBOROUGH AVENUE, PRINCE GEORGE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL IN DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. OPPOSED? NEW ASSESSMENT ON 806 MARLBOROUGH AVENUE B19965. WE ARE NOW GOING TO VICKSBURG STREET.
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YES. ALL THREE OF THEM HAVE BEEN MEASURED AND CORRECTED.IT'S GONE FROM ONE THE NEW ASSESSMENT 192 NINE DOWN TO 186 400 BREAKDOWN.
GIVE ME. WHAT'S THAT? PROPERTY ADDRESS, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN? 8100. IT'S VICKSBURG STREET, SO IT'S THE. THE LAND IS 32 SIX.
THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE 153 EIGHT FOR A TOTAL OF 1864.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE ASSESSMENT IS AFFIRMED AT 186 400.
SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE. OPPOSED.
YOUR ASSESSMENT WILL BE 186 FOUR. AND WE ASK THAT YOU CHECK BACK WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT FOR SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT RATING. OKAY. CAN I. CAN I SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE RL THEY'RE RESPONDING.
THEY JUST THEY JUST RESPONDED TO A CHAT. SO GIVE ME A SECOND.
COULD YOU PLEASE GO OUT TO THE HALLWAY AND ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN THERE SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT APPEAL? YEAH. IS THAT ALSO NEXT WEEK? AND WE'LL WE'LL CHAT.
JUST WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF APPEALS BEHIND THIS, SO THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN. BYE. THANK YOU. OKAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME, GREGORY THOMAS GWALTNEY.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? I DO, ALL RIGHT. SIR. YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT 10609 JOHNSON ROAD.
YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WHEN I GOT MY ASSESSMENT, THE NEW ASSESSMENT, I WENT ON AND AND OF COURSE, I RECOGNIZED IDENTIFIED AS BEING THE BLAINE RIDGE LAKEWOOD CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
I MEAN, AREA AND NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I WENT ON AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THE ASSESSMENTS IN BOTH OF THOSE PLACES, AND SOME SOME THINGS STOOD OUT. OBVIOUS TO ME.
ONE IS THAT THE MY CONDOMINIUM IS THE HAS THE SMALLEST SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ANY OUT THERE, AND I'M ACTUALLY ASSESSED HIGHER THAN ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAS THE EXACT SAME KIND OF MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE LAYOUT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT'S ABOUT A $3,400 DIFFERENCE. THEN I LOOKED AT THE LAKEWOOD CONDOMINIUMS AND SAW THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN ASSESSMENTS OVER THERE VERSUS MINE. AND I'VE BEEN TOLD BY SOMEONE IN THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE THAT FOR SOME REASON, THE BLAND RIDGE CONDOMINIUMS THAT WE LIVE IN ARE ASSESSED HIGHER THAN THE LAKEWOOD CONDOMINIUMS. AND IT'S QUESTIONABLE TO ME CONSIDERING THAT WE LIVE ON JOHNSON ROAD, GET ALL THE TRAFFIC ALL DAY LONG, HAVE NO PARKING ON THE STREET WHERE IT'S, AND IT'S AND SO THAT DOESN'T I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I DID IS LOOKED AT, LIKE I SAID, THE ASSESSMENTS LOOKED AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND, AND BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE LAKEWOOD CONDOMINIUMS, WHICH ARE FIVE YEARS NEWER THAN OURS.
AND AND THEIR AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS A, I BELIEVE, A 112.69 PER SQUARE FOOT. SO THAT'S THE CALCULATION THAT I TOOK THAT.
IF I TOOK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF MY CONDOMINIUM OF 9999FT² BY THAT ONE 1269.
THAT'S HOW I CAME UP WITH WHAT I THINK IS A FAIR ASSESSMENT.
FOR THE PROPERTY OF THE APARTMENT FOR 233 683.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE ASSESSMENT ON THE LAND.
ALL EVERYBODY OUT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL SHARE THE EXPENSE THERE.
AND SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT THE MY ASSESSMENT BE DROPPED TO 293, 683 FROM THE 311 100, THE HIGHEST OUT THERE. I HAVE THE HIGHEST CHARGE OF HIGHEST SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSESSMENT PER SQUARE FOOT OF ANYONE OUT IN THIS CONDOMINIUMS. AND I DON'T I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT
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AND SO THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD.ALL RIGHT. SIR? COUNTY AND VISION.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE NUMBER YOU WERE ASKING FOR? 293, 683. THE LAND STAY AT 60,000. THE IMPROVEMENTS TO 233 683.
AND HE'S ON A HIGHLY TRAVELED ROAD, JOHNSON ROAD.
AND A CORNFIELD BACK TO THE CORNFIELD. USED TO BE A CORNFIELD.
A STILL CORNFIELD ACROSS FROM YOU. YEAH. OH, YEAH.
IT IS. THIS IS ONE WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ASK VISION A QUESTION ABOUT BECAUSE IT IS A CONDOMINIUM AND THEY HAVE A SPECIAL WAY OF TREATING CONDOMINIUMS. BUT SO IT IS A STYLE AS A CONDOMINIUM. GIVE ME ABOUT A MINUTE TO THINK IT THROUGH.
I THINK IT IS AN ASSOCIATION WHERE THEY DON'T OWN THE LAND.
YEAH. YES THEY DO. WHAT DO YOU SAY? LIKE THEY OWN THE LAND.
SO THE THE GENTLEMAN IS ASKING FOR A RELATIVELY MINOR ADJUSTMENT.
ON THE SURFACE OF IT, IT IT LOOKS TO BE WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR IS REASONABLE.
IT'S NOT VERY MUCH DIFFERENT. HE PAID 238 FOR IT IN 2019.
SO MARKING IT UP, YOU KNOW, FOR MARKET AVERAGES.
SO I GUESS I WOULD AGREE WITH THEM. 293 700. WE'VE GOT 293.
683. WELL WE CAN'T. WE HAVE TO GO TO THE NEAREST $100.
OH NO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YEAH. SO WE'LL RAISE THIS PROPERTY.
233. 633. I'M SORRY. TWO. NO. HIS IMPROVEMENTS.
OH. WOULD THEY END UP BEING. 233. 690 A TOTAL.
WE WOULD JUST BE. WE'RE CONCERNED. WELL, WE'VE GOT TO BREAK IT DOWN.
393. 700. OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE ASSESSMENT ON 10609 JOHNSON ROAD SOUTH PRINCE GEORGE BE CHANGED TO 293 700. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? MR. GWALTNEY, YOUR NEW ASSESSMENT WILL BE 293 700.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT ON WAITING. CAN I GET THE IMPROVEMENT VALUE? THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN. IT MUST BE 233. 702 33, 700.
YEAH. THANK YOU. NEXT ONE. BARRY. KEVIN HUGHES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME.
BARRY. KEVIN HUGHES. WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY.
YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, SIR. CONTINUE. I LIVE AT 4995 WARWICK COURT.
BINGO. BINGO. BINGO. GO AHEAD. SIR. WELL, I THOUGHT HE WOULD BRING IT UP ON HIS MAP.
I AM. YES, SIR. GIVE ME. HE WILL. JUST GO AHEAD.
ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WANT TO RAISE MY PROPERTY TAXES BY 38%? SO WHEN I GOT THAT WORD, MAY I START GETTING INVOLVED AND TRY TO FIGURE THINGS OUT WHERE I LIVE? I LIVE DOWN A GRAVEL ROAD AND IT'S DEAD END. THERE'S FOUR OF US.
MY PROPERTY CARRIES ABOUT HALF THE ROAD TO GET THE PEOPLE TO THE END.
SO THAT'S ON MY PROPERTY. THE EASY WAY, ROADWAY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
AND THE OTHER HALF IS THE PERSON AT TOP OF THE HILL.
I HAVE PEOPLE. THERE USED TO BE FAMILIES THERE.
THERE'S NOT. I'M THE ONLY BEEN THERE 25 YEARS, AND I'M THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S STILL THERE.
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MY KIDS ARE GROWN OUT, THE HOUSE AND ALL THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL WE GOT.RENTERS OR I GOT RENTERS ON THE RIGHT, RENTERS ON THE LEFT.
AND I, QUOTE UNQUOTE, HOUSE SITTERS AND DENNIS O'CONNOR'S HOUSE.
AND THEY RUN UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, AND WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO PITCH IN FOR THESE ROADS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THE HOUSE TO MY RIGHT, THE HOUSE TO MY LEFT, THE ONE ACROSS THE ROAD.
I KNOW DENNIS, BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO PITCH IN.
THEY CONTINUOUSLY GOT PRIME DELIVERIES AND ALL KINDS OF RENT-A-CENTER STUFF FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND THEN THIS YEAR, SOMETHING HAPPENED. THEY HAD CARS TOWED AWAY.
THEY HAD THE RENTAL CENTER TRUCKS SHOW UP AND PULL STUFF OUT OF THE HOUSE AND LEAVE.
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THERE SOMETIMES, BUT NOT ALL THE TIME.
AND THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE ROAD, THE ONLY TIME THEY'RE HOME IS ON A SUNDAY.
AND WHY? AND IT'S A DEAD END. THE THE CITY DOESN'T COME DOWN.
WE'RE ALL ON WELLS. WE ALL HAVE SEPTIC TANKS.
WE'RE NOT PART OF ANYTHING EXCEPT OUR OUR HOUSE.
AND WHY WOULD YOU RAISE MY PROPERTY TAXES? I HAVE NO CLUE.
AND SO I WENT IN 27,748 HOUSES IN PRINCE GEORGE.
AND I SAID, WELL, LET ME PUT $2,000 IN HERE. TIMES THAT IT'S JUST ME AND EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT, BUT IT COMES UP WITH A BIG SUM OF MONEY. SO WITH MY ROAD THAT I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF, IT'S 6 TO $800 A YEAR BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GET GRAVEL. GOT TO GET SOMEBODY DOWN THERE, DRAG ROAD AND ALL THAT.
I HAVEN'T DONE IT THIS YEAR, AND I DIDN'T DO IT LAST YEAR BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ON MY RIGHT ARE JUST GO SPEED RACER, GO UP AND DOWN THE HILL AND IT'S LIKE IT'S A DEAD END.
YOU DON'T NEED TO GO OVER FIVE, TEN MILES AN HOUR.
IT'S ONLY A LITTLE OVER A 10TH OF A MILE AS ALL.
IT IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. ARE YOU. THANK YOU.
SO I JUST WHY IS MY PROPERTY TAXES GOING UP. BECAUSE IT'S JUST A LITTLE ON ME.
I HAVEN'T PUT I WHAT I, WHEN I BOUGHT IT IN 2021 OR 2001.
I'M SORRY I, I HAVE IT A SHED IN THE BACK. BUT A TREE FELL DURING A NOR'EASTER AND TOOK THAT OUT.
SO THAT'S GONE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE JUST A HOUSE AND I WISE WHY.
AND NOW I'M RETIRED, A TEN YEAR NAVY VETERAN.
AND THEN I WORKED FOR DOMINION FOR 25 YEARS. AND I THOUGHT, ALL RIGHT.
MY HOUSE IS PAID FOR AND IT'S MY TIME TO ENJOY.
BECAUSE MY DAD, HE PASSED AWAY AT 83. MY GRANDFATHER 81.
ALL MY UNCLES BETWEEN 8183. SO I'M 65. I'LL BE 66 PRETTY SOON.
I JUST WANT TO LIVE, YOU KNOW. AND I'M ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND AND A PENSION.
AND IT KEEPS ME GOING. BUT IF IT'S THE TAX IS BEING RAISED IS A WHOLE MONTH OF SOCIAL SECURITY.
SO, SO. AND THAT'S FOR SOMETHING I'VE ALREADY PAID FOR SOME.
A PLACE I LIVED IN AND RAISED MY KIDS AND HAD A LIFE.
AND NOW IT'S TAKING AWAY. YES, SIR. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
AND SO YOU SPEAK OF MY ROAD. SO, YOU KNOW, I DID TO FIGURE OUT A CONFIGURATION OF, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLYING THE MONEY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GET IN FOR BUSINESS.
AND I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO GET INVOLVED.
I'M LIKE I SAID, I'M RETIRED. HOW TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT.
OH, THERE'S THERE'S YOUR ROAD. YEAH. THERE'S YOUR BROTHER.
OKAY. NOW MY HOUSE, THAT'S THE ROAD. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT ON THE ROAD.
AND ANYWAYS. ALL RIGHT SO LET'S SEE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS TO SAY.
TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY AND VISION, PLEASE.
THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT WAS $307,000. THE NEW ASSESSMENT AFTER THE ADJUSTMENT TO 66 NINE.
SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT ADJUSTMENT. NO. NO, MA'AM.
LIKE I SAID, THAT REDUCTION DOWN TO 266 NINE.
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AND SO THAT THAT'S WHEN MY EYES WERE OPEN. OKAY.DO YOU HAVE A PROPERTY HISTORY? WHAT WAS IT LAST YEAR? YES, MA'AM. 2024 2025 ASSESSMENT. 215 TWO. BROKEN DOWN 43,800.
LAND 171 FOUR. IN BUILDING THOSE NEW VALUES, BASED ON THE 2026 PROPOSED 51,400 LAND, 215,500 BUILDING TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO 66 900.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I BELIEVE IT WAS DURING THE INFORMAL APPEALS.
IS THAT. YEAH, I BELIEVE SO. SO IT WAS A 40 ABOUT A $40,000 REDUCTION.
AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A 24.2% INCREASE FROM THE PRIOR ASSESSMENT, WHICH WAS REALLY YEARS AGO.
DURING THE INFORMAL APPEALS, IT WAS REDUCED ALREADY.
SO AT THIS POINT I'M SHOWING YOU ON THE SCREEN, THE GENTLEMAN HAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, SOME ISSUES. I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR WITH THE ACCESS AND THE RESTRICTED EASEMENT ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE BEING APPLIED, WHICH ARE 25% EACH. AND AT THIS POINT, THE COUNTY DOES NOT RECOMMEND A FURTHER REDUCTION.
WHAT ABOUT WATER AND SEWER? HE'S ON WELL AND SEPTIC.
YES I WOULD I COULD CHANGE THAT AND IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THE VALUE.
SO IT'S JUST A THAT'S FOR A STATE CLASS CODE REPORTING.
UNDERSTAND. YEAH. SO WE COULD CORRECT THAT WHILE WE'RE HERE.
SO THAT ONE'S ALREADY SUBURBAN. WELL, IN SEPTIC THIS ONE SUBURBAN WELL AND SEPTIC AND SAVE. CANCEL. SO IT'S STILL AT 266 NINE. WE DON'T RECOMMEND A CHANGE BASED UPON ANY FURTHER CHANGE. TWO YEARS.
IT'S 40,020 A YEAR. WHICH IS OF THE BOE.
MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES AS PROPOSED.
THE ADJUSTMENT TO THE ASSESSED VALUE. DOWN TO 266,900.
AND INCORPORATE THAT AS THE NEW ASSESSED VALUE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? SO YOUR NEW ASSESSMENT WILL BE TWO SIX, SIX NINE.
GOOD. OKAY. FROM WHAT? I'M NOT. I'M FROM 307.
OKAY. AND ONE ONE MORE THING. YOU WILL GET SOMETHING IN THE MAIL VERIFYING THAT, SIR.
OKAY. AND RESPECTFULLY, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO LEARN HOW OUR OUR PRINCE GEORGE GOVERNMENT WORKS AND WHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP FOR ME? WHO WHO CAN I TALK TO? I'M JUST INTERESTED IN MARVEL AFTER ALL THE YEARS THROUGH OBAMA AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THAT AND READ THE CONCERNS.
OH DID I. AND SO NOW IT'S IT'S LIKE COMING TO A MEETING LIKE THIS.
WHO'S MY SON? HAVE YOU GONE? HAVE YOU GONE? YEAH.
HAVE YOU GONE TO THE WEBSITE? YOU CAN SEE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THAT'S REPRESENTS YOU OKAY.
IN YOUR AREA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S OUT HERE.
THE DEPUTY SHERIFF THERE WILL HELP YOU. RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
SWEET. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. HAVE A BLESSED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SARAH WAYMACK AND PETER BELSKY.
I HOPE I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT.
HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. MA'AM. WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME? SURE. SARAH. EMILY DVORSKY. I'M SORRY. SARAH.
EMILY WAYMACK. PETER DVORSKY WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
IS THAT YOUR HUSBAND? PARTNER. PARTNER. OKAY.
WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR OR PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? I DO, ALL RIGHT. PRESENT YOUR CASE FIVE MINUTES.
OKAY. SO I GUESS THE THE BIG PART OF WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
OF WHY MY PROPERTY VALUE HAS GONE UP AS MUCH OF AS MUCH AS IT HAS, HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF LAND THAT IT IS. WE HAVE I WAS GIFTED THE LAND TO BUILD A HOUSE FROM FAMILY BACK IN 2017,
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AND WE DID BUILD A HOUSE ON THE LAND. AND WE HAD THERE WERE ONLY TWO PLACES IN THE WHOLE 6.8 ACRES THAT WERE SUITABLE FOR AN ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC SEPTIC SYSTEM.THE LAND DID NOT PERK OR WAS UNABLE TO PERK. PERK SO POORLY THAT ONLY TWO SPOTS IN THOSE 6.8 ACRES WERE GOOD ENOUGH FOR AN ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
AND SO I KNOW PETER SUBMITTED SOME BILLS ABOUT HOW MUCH IT COSTS YEARLY JUST FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC SYSTEM, AS WELL AS AT LEAST ONE BILL ABOUT THE REPAIR COST FOR AN ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
SO I'M WONDERING BASICALLY BASED OFF OF THAT.
OH, ONE MORE POINT. I'M SORRY, IS THAT OVER? SINCE 2017, THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BECOME MORE WETLANDS, IF YOU WILL, OR SWAMP LIKE, HAS INCREASED BACK IN EITHER 2017 OR POSSIBLY 2018.
FORGIVE ME. SOMEONE FROM THE COUNTY DID COME OUT AND WALK THE PROPERTY WITH ME, SO THAT I COULD SHOW THEM HOW MUCH OF THE LAND REALLY IS WET, AND THEY WERE TELLING ME, WELL, THEY WERE FAIRLY MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT, WELL, YOU COULD CUT DOWN THESE TREES AND YOU COULD HAVE SPACE FOR MORE OUTHOUSES AND DO THINGS WITH THE LAND. BUT UNTIL THEY LOOKED AT IT PHYSICALLY.
SO I'M SORRY, I'M IN A LOT OF PHYSICAL PAIN. I JUST HAD SPINE SURGERY TWO WEEKS AGO.
SORRY. I'M STRUGGLING. IT'S OKAY. DO YOU LIKE TO BE SEATED? TO SPEAK? I DON'T WANT TO. I'LL JUST. IT'S QUICK.
IT'S OKAY. SO THAT. SO IN THE PAST YEAR, I NOTICED.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. SO IN THE PAST YEAR, I NOTICED THE ASSESSMENT.
YOU CAN BRING A MICROPHONE DOWN TO YOU. OKAY.
I NOTICED THE ASSESSMENT ON THE LAND ITSELF INCREASED BY A LITTLE MORE THAN $10,000.
SO I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY THAT LAND. NOW, IN REALITY, THE THE WORKABILITY OF THE LAND.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE LAND ITSELF THAT THE HOUSE IS NOT ON, YOU KNOW, IS IN ACTUALLY WORSE CONDITION TO DO ANYTHING WITH WHATSOEVER OTHER THAN THE KIDS ENJOY PLAYING DOWN THERE. THEY MAKE MUD PIES AND THEY LOVE IT.
BUT I MEAN, WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NOW $10,000 MORE THAN IT WAS A YEAR AGO, WHEN, IN FAIRNESS, THERE'S MORE MUD AND SWAMP OUT THERE THAN THERE WAS IN 2017.
SO THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THE INCREASED MAINTENANCE, INCREASED REPAIR COSTS OF HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC SYSTEM, IN ADDITION TO THERE BEING MORE SWAMP, MORE UNUSABLE LAND, SHOULD SOMEBODY BUY IT AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT? OR SHOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, SOLD. YEAH. I'VE NOTICED THAT IT DID REDUCE IT FROM 382 2 TO 373 SIX. THAT'S 2017. NO, NO, THAT WAS THIS YEAR.
THAT WAS THIS YEAR. OH, OKAY. SO IT IS NOW DOWN TO THREE.
73 SIX. IT WAS AT THREE. 82 TWO OKAY. OKAY. I'LL TURN IT OVER NOW TO THE COUNTY AND VISION.
SO HERE'S THE PROPERTY. IT LOOKS TO BE MOSTLY LEVEL.
THERE'S ONLY ONE CONTOUR LINE THAT CROSSES IT.
I DO HAVE BOTH THE WETLANDS AND THE RPA TURNED ON, WHICH IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY WETLANDS, RPA OR MMA. THAT'S A CREEK, ISN'T IT? THAT'S A CREEK.
AND I DON'T SEE THAT. I DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS THE TOPOGRAPHY.
I DON'T SEE THERE'S A CREEK THERE THAT BLACK LANDS A CREEK THAT'S ON IT.
THOSE ARE TOP. THOSE ARE TOPOGRAPHY LINES. THE CREEKS ARE BLUE.
OH, WAIT. IN MY DEFENSE, SOMEONE FROM THE COUNTY CAME OUT WITH ME AND PERSONALLY WALKED WITH ME AND WAS VISIBLY SEEING THE CREEK. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG AGO THAT'S BEEN? MA'AM, IT'S 20, 2017 THAT THEY CAME OUT OKAY.
OR IT COULD HAVE BEEN 2018, BUT I'M ALMOST POSITIVE IT WAS 2017.
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ONE SECOND. SO CONSTRUCTION STARTED ON A HOUSE JUST READING VERY QUICKLY THROUGH OUR NOTES.THERE'S ALREADY AN ADJUSTMENT LEANING HER DIRECTION FOR WETLANDS OF 10%.
EVEN THOUGH I DON'T DISAGREE WITH HER. THERE'S A CREEK THERE, SOME WETLANDS.
IT HAS A POINT. SO 10% REDUCTION FOR WETLANDS, 10% REDUCTION FOR ACCESS.
AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T SEE THAT A FURTHER REDUCTION IS WARRANTED BASED UPON WHAT SHE'S TELLING US.
AND ON THE FACE OF THE RECORD. SO IT'S ALREADY GOT A 10% REDUCTION FOR THE CREEK OR WETLAND.
AS A WETLANDS INCREASE SINCE YOU'VE LIVED THERE? YES, MA'AM. HAS THE CREEK INCREASED? YES, THE SPREAD OF IT HAS INCREASED.
CAN YOU PUT THE OTHER MAP BACK UP? YES, MA'AM.
THERE'S THE WETLANDS BEING TURNED ON AND OFF AGAIN.
RPA AND THE WMA. JASON, I BELIEVE I SAW A 10% REDUCTION FOR BOTH ACCESS AND WETLANDS.
THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WOULD CALCULATES TO THE NEW VALUE OF 3736.
YES. SO THAT'S ALREADY ENCOMPASSING THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT 3736.
HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IN HER HOUSE ARE EATING YOUR PROM? 16. 32. 16. 13. OKAY. 6.8 ACRES. 16 ACRES.
I'M TRYING TO GO BACK TO THAT. THE MAP. GRAB FOOTAGE.
NOW THE MAP. OKAY, SO WE'RE HAVING OUR RECORDS TWO, TWO LEVELS HERE.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE HAVE ONE LEVEL WITH A HALF STOREY ABOVE IT.
DOES THAT SEEM CORRECT? THAT'S ACCURATE. YES, SIR.
OKAY, THAT'S HOW MUCH DO YOU SAY? THE COUNTY SAYS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 1632. OKAY. I'M NOT GETTING THAT.
SO IT'S GRADED AS A C QUALITY HOME, WHICH IS CONSISTENT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S AN AVERAGE QUALITY HOME. AND AGAIN THE SCALES ARE FROM A TO E.
SO IT'S RIGHT IN THE AVERAGE. WE HAVE AN AVERAGE CONDITION.
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, DO YOU THINK SHE. SHE DOES HAVE A POINT.
AN ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC SYSTEM DOES. IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE AND DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON VALUE AND RESALE.
SO WOULD THAT ACCOUNT FOR SOME SORT OF ADJUSTMENT? JUST THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
I BELIEVE, JASON, IT'S A FAIR PERCENTAGE OF THE WHOLE COUNTY.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU MOVE TO PRINCE GEORGE, I THINK YOU KIND OF ALL THE NEW HOMES BEING BUILT NOW IS BASICALLY ALTERNATIVE SYSTEMS. JUST JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT POINT. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T DISAGREE.
I DON'T DISAGREE THAT IT IS A MAINTENANCE THING.
BUT TO, TO ADJUST HERS AND NOT HAVE TO JUST EVERYONE.
YEAH. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT MAYBE GOING FORWARD WE COULD CONSIDER, BUT YOU WOULD BE CREATING INEQUITY BY ADJUSTING HERS AND NOT ALSO THE OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED.
SINCE THERE ARE NO. MOTIONS MADE. WE AFFIRM THAT THE TAX ASSESSMENT WILL STAY AT 373,600. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
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THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. MR..CAN YOU PUSH IT? YEP. PUSH THAT BACK. THANK YOU.
PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME. TED GRAYSON SAUNDERS, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE, MR. SAUNDERS? DO YOU SWEAR A PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, SIR? FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS VALUED AT 25,200. IT'S JUST A ONE ACRE LOT. AND I HAD 185% INCREASE TO 72,000.
THOUSAND, AND I THOUGHT THAT WASN'T REASONABLE IN CUSTOMARY.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. IS THIS PROPERTY ATTACHED TO YOUR HOME? NO, MA'AM. IT'S JUST A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
PIECE OF PROPERTY BESIDE YOUR HOUSE? NO, MA'AM.
ON THE REAR OF YOUR HOME, MA'AM. IS IT ON THE REAR OF YOUR HOME? I MEAN, WHERE IS IT IN RELATION? I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
OKAY, SO IT'S JUST A VACANT, VACANT LOT. YES, MA'AM.
ALL RIGHT, SIR. GOT IT. HAS THE PROPERTY EVER BEEN PARKED? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. IS IT A BUILDABLE LOT? THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU IS JUST A ONE ACRE PIECE OF LAND. IT DOESN'T HAVE A WELL OR A SEPTIC TANK ON IT, AND I'VE NEVER APPLIED FOR ONE.
I THOUGHT I WOULD LEAVE IT TO MY GRANDCHILDREN TO LET ONE OF THEM BUILD ON IT.
IF IT. IF THE LAND WILL PERK, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE NEVER TRIED IN THAT AREA.
I HAVE HEARD THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS, BUT I TECHNICALLY DON'T KNOW.
I'M TRYING TO PLAY. CAN YOU BACK IT OUT SO WE COULD GET LANDMARKS? YES, MA'AM. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I'M GONNA TURN ON THIS. OKAY. THE WETLANDS AND STUFF, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE WORKING CORRECTLY. MR. GRAYSON, YOU. MR. GRAYSON, YOU SAID IT DOES NOT HAVE WELL IN SEPTIC.
NO. YEAH. JASON, IT'S IT'S FLAGGED THAT WAY ON THE TAX CARD, SO JUST FYI.
OKAY. IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT HAS A DRIVEWAY TO IT AT ALL.
YEAH, JUST ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. IT'S JUST ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
OKAY, SIR. SO IT LOOKS TO ME, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
I'M TURNING ON THE CONTOURS. LOOKS TO BE A PRETTY, PRETTY FLAT PIECE OF LAND.
YES, SIR. AND WITH NO WETLAND INFLUENCE. NO RPA INFLUENCE.
YEAH. SO I CAN CHANGE IT. YOU SAID IT'S IT'S MARKED AS IT'S FLAGGED WELL AND SEPTIC ON THE TAX CARD. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME LET ME LOOK AT THE THE LOT DIRECTLY BESIDE IT REAL QUICK.
OH, GOSH. I CAN PUNCH IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
THIS IS A LOT. NEXT DOOR. ALSO HAS A HOUSE ON. IT. HAS A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT OF 0.65.
THIS IS 17315 JAMES RIVER DRIVE. THE THE LOT DIRECTLY BESIDE IT HAS A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT ADJUSTMENT FOR ONE FOR 35% REDUCTION.
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LET ME FIND ONE OTHER ONE. BE THE ONE THAT'S THAT'S THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.THAT WOULD NOT BE COMPARABLE. OKAY. THAT GIVES ME A THAT'S IT GIVES ME WHAT I NEEDED.
YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW WHERE IT IS. YEAH. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S GOING DOWN THERE.
YOU GOTTA GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO IT'S POSSIBLY BESIDE BURIED IN YOUR MOTHER'S HOUSE YESTERDAY.
SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE IT SIMILAR TO THE LOT BESIDE IT.
THE REVISED ASSESSMENT WOULD BE $46,800. SO THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS A REDUCTION TO $46,800.
DO YOU HAVE A HISTORY ON YOU DID. DID YOU TAKE OUT THE WELL AND SEPTIC? IT LOOKED LIKE MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE CARD. MR. GRAYSON, THAT'S A CLASSIFICATION. SO WE'RE NOT CHARGING HIM FOR A WELL IN SEPTIC.
GOTCHA. IT'S JUST A CLASSIFICATION ACCORDING TO THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.
OKAY. WHAT WAS THE PREVIOUS 25? TWO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
COULD I ASK MR. GALVIN, WHY AN INCREASE AND NOTHING'S BEEN DONE TO THE PROPERTY AT ALL.
SO ANYTIME THAT SO I'M GOING TO BEAR WITH ME AND CHASE THE RABBIT FOR JUST A MINUTE.
OKAY. IN NORTH CAROLINA. THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION IS INSTRUCTED TO DISREGARD ENTIRELY APPEALS BASED UPON SOLELY ON THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE BECAUSE IT PRESUPPOSES THE CORRECTION OF AN ERROR.
SO JUST ON THE FACE OF IT, WHEN YOU COMPARE AN OLD ASSESSMENT, A NEW ASSESSMENT WHERE THE ONLY APPELLANT'S OPINION IS JUST THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE, THEY ARE INSTRUCTED TO DISREGARD THE APPEAL. SO IN VIRGINIA, THE SAME LOGIC, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT DIRECTLY IN THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION MANUAL OR IN THE STATE CODE, THE SAME LOGIC APPLIES. SO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, WELL, THE OLD ONE WAS REALLY LOW, MAYBE IT WAS TOO LOW, MAYBE IT WAS TOO HIGH. WE DON'T KNOW.
THE TIME FOR TALKING ABOUT THE OLD ASSESSMENT WAS IN THE PAST, RIGHT.
SO THE QUESTION BEFORE THE BOARD NOW IS IS IT IN LINE WITH SIMILAR PROPERTIES? IS IT IN LINE WITH WHAT IT WOULD SELL FOR? SO I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, IT'S NOT A PARAMETRIC ANALYSIS LIKE IN LIGHT OF THE OLD ASSESSMENT, WHAT SHOULD IT BE? IT'S IN LIGHT OF THE SALES THAT ARE IN OUR CURRENT STUDY PERIOD.
AND IN LIGHT OF THE OTHER SIMILAR ASSESSMENTS.
NO BUILDER IS GOING TO PAY 46 EIGHT BY THAT LOT.
GOT TO PUT A DRIVEWAY IN. GOT TO GET, YOU KNOW, WELL IN SEPTIC.
THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WORTH.
IF IT WERE TO GO ON A MARKET? WHAT WOULD IT LIST? ASK NO MORE THAN 30,000. WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW THAT BECAUSE I REPRESENT A SMALL BUILDER AND IT'S JUST COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS ANYMORE. I WAS HONESTLY THINKING 35.
OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? MR. WINFREY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? I'M SORRY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? IT WAS 35. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT? NO. WE DON'T. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? NO. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE ASSESSMENT BE REDUCED TO 35,000 ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON JAMES RIVER DRIVE. NO. YEP.
I'LL SECOND IT. NO. SECONDED. DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? 35,000. AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? WE'VE REDUCED IT DOWN TO 35,000.
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JEREMY AND AMBER. JACOB.GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. WOULD YOU OR YOU BOTH BE SPEAKING? MAINLY ME. THIS IS MY WIFE, AMBER. AND THEN I BROUGHT MY REALTOR, ANGELA MOODY, JUST IN CASE I NEEDED SOME BACKUP.
OKAY. WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME? JEREMY.
EDWIN. JACOB. WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? SINCE ANY OF THE THREE OF YOU MIGHT BE SPEAKING, COULD YOU ALL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? YEAH.
THANK YOU. ONE I NEED EACH OF YOUR NAMES. AMBER.
JACOB. ANGELA MOODY. DO YOU SWEAR? A PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF YOUR PERJURY.
YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. SINCE YOUR CASE. SO MY ADDRESS IS 20122 HORSESHOE ROAD AND CARSON.
THE PROPOSED INCREASE FOR OUR BUILDING IS 38,300.
THAT'S FOR OUR HOUSE. I HAVE SOME DISCREPANCIES WITH THE WAY THEY HAVE OUR HOUSE CATEGORIZED.
IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER THAT FIRST IN THE DESCRIPTION.
THEY THEY CALL OUT THE STYLE MANUFACTURED HOME.
WHICH IS CORRECT. BUT THEN YOU GO DOWN TO THE OTHER CATEGORY, WHICH IS AT THE BOTTOM OF MY LIST, AND IT SAYS MANUFACTURED HOME. AND IT HAS NO IN THAT CATEGORY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RELEVANT TO MY PRICING, BUT IT SHOULD BE CORRECTED.
ON THE FOUNDATION CATEGORY, THEY HAVE THAT AS TYPICAL.
THE HOUSE THAT WE LIVE IN IS A A NINE. IT WAS BUILT IN 98.
IT'S IT'S A DOUBLE WIDE. IT'S STILL GOT A STEEL FRAME UNDER THE HOUSE.
IT'S GOT CINDER BLOCK PILLARS. IT'S NOT ON A FOOTER OR A FOUNDATION.
SO FOR IT TO BE CATEGORIZED AS TYPICAL, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING ACCURATE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING HOUSES NEAR TO ME.
SO. SO 20116 HORSESHOE ROAD. THIS IS A BRICK AND MORTAR HOME.
TYPICAL HOUSE. THEIR PROPERTY ASSESSMENT FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR BUILDING ACTUALLY WENT DOWN AND WENT DOWN BY $23,700. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF MY ONE EVIDENCE OR OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CATEGORIZE THAT. THE SECOND PARCEL THAT I WAS LOOKING AT AND ALL THESE ARE ACTUALLY ON MY DRIVEWAY.
WELL, NOT THE THIRD ONE, BUT THESE TWO ARE 20172.
THEY'RE BUILDING HIS BUILDING PROPERTY BUILDING VALUE DECREASED BY $73,800.
AND THEN MY LAST COMPARISON OF.
21001 THAT WAS REDUCED BY $9,500 FOR FOR THE BUILDING VALUE.
SO MY CONCERN IS THE TYPE OF HOME THAT I HAVE.
I CAN'T MAKE SENSE OF THE INCREASE OF THE 22 $23,700, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE OTHER BRICK HOMES THAT ARE.
WELL, ARE HIGHER CLASS BUILT HOMES THAN MY HOUSE.
AND THEY, THEY BOTH LOST VALUE. I DON'T I CAN'T MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF HOW THAT HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.
FOR ME, FOR MY INCREASE. IS THERE. IS THERE ANYTHING I'M MISSING? I'M JUST CHECKING. I HAD YOUR YOURS INCREASED 30 DAYS.
WELL, THERE WAS A I DID MAKE AN APPEAL FOR THE FIRST ROUND.
THEY HAD THEY HAD ADDED SOME OF MY OUTBUILDINGS TO MY INCREASE, AND I MADE AN APPEAL ON THE FIRST ROUND TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, AND I SUPPLIED PICTURES THAT OUT OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY HAD PUT ON MY MY PARCEL LIST.
ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS WAS IN GOOD SHAPE. THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS WERE FALLING DOWN.
THEY NEED TO. WHAT? YEAH. ONE BUILDING IS ALMOST COMPLETELY GONE, AND I SUPPLIED THE COUNTY WITH PICTURES, AND THEY MADE AN ADJUSTMENT. THEY THEY BROUGHT THAT DOWN TO JUST TO TO ONE BUILDING.
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AND THAT WAS WHERE IS IT AT? I THINK I BELIEVE IT WAS $8,400.IS IS WHAT THEY BROUGHT IT DOWN TO FOR MY OUTBUILDINGS.
SO I GOT THAT CORRECTED. BUT I, I STILL HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE INCREASE THAT THEY DID TO MY MY DWELLING, MY MY PERSONAL HOME. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION.
WOULD YOU SPEAK UP, COME TO THE MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS WHAT DOES THE CODE WHERE IT SAYS TALKS ABOUT A GRADE AND IT GIVES A LETTER VALUE FOR THE GRADE? I DON'T. AS A REALTOR, I'VE NEVER ENCOUNTERED THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
DO Y'ALL HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT? WE'LL ASK THE COUNTY TO ANSWER.
ARE YOU ALL FINISHED? YEAH. YES. YES, MA'AM. YES.
YES, MA'AM. YES. JASON, WOULD YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND WE'LL GET INTO.
GLAD TO. SO IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCREEN HERE, I CAN SHOW YOU.
IT'S A IT'S THE GRADE IS A QUALITY RATING FOR QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION, AND IT'S A SCALAR VARIABLE, WHICH MEANS THERE'S A SCALE. AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR REPORT CARD IN SCHOOL WHERE A WOULD BE LIKE A REALLY GOOD MARK.
B WOULD BE ABOVE AVERAGE, C WOULD BE AVERAGE, D WOULD BE BELOW AVERAGE, AND E WOULD BE THE LOWEST.
INSTEAD OF AN F, IT'S AN E. SO YOURS IS MARKED AS AN E BEING IT'S A MANUFACTURED HOME.
SO IT'S ON THE I BELIEVE THE THE LOWEST SCALE, IT'S EITHER THE LOWEST OR THE AMONG THE LOWEST IN THE COUNTY. SO YEAH, A LITTLE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW AVERAGE.
SO YOU'RE BEING TREATED APPROPRIATELY, IN MY OPINION, REGARDING THE SCALE OF VARIABLE GRADE.
OKAY. MY JUST IN QUESTIONING THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
NOW, THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. THE 20172 PROPERTY THAT I SUBMITTED IS ACTUALLY GRADED AT C.
PLUS, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THAT HOUSE, THAT HOUSE IS ENORMOUS GORGEOUS ON BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND IT DECREASED IN VALUE BY 73,800.
AND THEN AGAIN, THEY'RE DOUBLE WIDE AND AND BY ALL MEANS, I DO NOT PRAISE MYSELF AS A GREAT REALTOR, BUT I'VE BEEN A REALTOR FOR 23 YEARS NOW, AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DOUBLE WIDE INCREASE THIS MUCH ON PILLARS, NOT ON A PERMANENT FOUNDATION. AND AGAIN, IT'S A 98 THAT ALL OF THE OTHER HOUSES ARE BUILT EITHER BRICK VENEER OR VINYL ON PERMANENT FOUNDATIONS.
THAT IS MY QUESTION. JASON, WAS THE 13 FIVE REDUCTION FROM THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENT DUE TO THE OUTBUILDINGS HE MENTIONED, OR WAS THERE ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT? I BELIEVE IT'S THE OUTBUILDINGS, BUILDINGS BECAUSE WHEN I GO THERE YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S LISTED NOW, LIKE A POLE BUILDING FOR $8,400. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL, THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE SHOWING UP LIKE THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY.
SO THERE ARE MORE, AT LEAST FROM THIS AERIAL IMAGERY.
THERE ARE MORE THERE. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE FALLING DOWN.
SO THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT LISTED. NO VALUE BASICALLY.
SO THE ONLY ONE THAT REMAINS IS THE ONE THAT YOU SAID WAS IN DECENT SHAPE, I GUESS, FOR $8,400.
SO I BELIEVE THAT'S AN ACCURATE STATEMENT. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED OUT WHEN I EMAILED VISIONS.
DID DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT THERE'S ONE OUTBUILDING ON THIS PROPERTY.
THERE'S ONE OUTBUILDING THAT HAS A CONTRIBUTORY VALUE, 400.
OUT OF ALL THAT WE JUST SAW. YES, SIR. THE OTHER ONES HAVE NO STORAGE VALUE.
NO VALUE AT ALL. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE FALLING DOWN.
I SUPPLIED THE COUNTY WITH PICTURES OF THE STATE OF THE BUILDINGS HERE.
THEY LOOK PRETTY NICE. WELL, YEAH. I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, I A WHILE AGO.
THEY ARE FALLING TO PIECES. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, HOUSE ASIDE, WAS $8,400 WORTH OF OUTBUILDINGS, AND THAT'S YEAH, THEY.
YES. SO THE THE BUILDING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PICTURE, THERE'S ONLY A SMALL SECTION.
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THAT'S A LIKE A CARPORT STYLE BARN THAT WAS PUT UP PREVIOUS TO US.DRYER SHED UP FRONT. THAT'S COMPLETELY. THE FRONT IS FALLING DOWN.
THERE'S ONLY THE BACK PORTION BARELY STANDING.
YEAH. YEAH. FAIR ENOUGH. THEY'RE NOT STANDING.
JASON, CAN YOU PULL UP? SORRY, MADAM CHAIR. CAN YOU PULL UP THE, LIKE, THREE, FOUR YEAR HISTORY THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT? ASSESSMENT HISTORY? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO IN TIMES PAST, IN 2022, IT WAS 304,000. AND THEN IN 2023, IT WAS 339,400. AND THEN IN 2020. WELL HANG ON. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN SEEING ALTERNATIVE 3 OR 4.
339. AND THEN I SEE 213 AS WELL.
THEY WENT UP TO HOW MUCH BUILDINGS FOR THE, THE BUILDING VALUE.
OKAY. JUST ISOLATING IT BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE IN THE LAND USE PROGRAM.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO ISOLATING THE LAND.
JUST THE BUILDING. THE BUILDINGS WERE 94, 107, 119.
AND NOW THEY'RE AT 157. SO 15% INCREASE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LOOSE MATH. AND THEN THE THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO.
JASON, BEFORE YOU GO THERE. YES, MA'AM. YOU JUST ASKED ME ABOUT THE LAND USE.
WASN'T THERE A CHANGE THIS YEAR WITHIN THE COUNTY ON LAND USE? YES, MA'AM. THERE WAS. SO ACROSS ACROSS THE BOARD.
THE COUNTY ADOPTED THE MANUAL. SO, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ALL THE LAND USE RATES INCREASED.
SO YOU'LL BE TAXED NOT ON THE MARKET VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY, BUT ON THE LAND USE PORTION OF THE.
JASON, JUST TO CHECK YOUR MATH BEHIND YOU. 32%, NOT 15.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THE LAND VALUE.
IT'S THE BUILDING VALUE OF THE OF THE ACTUAL DOUBLE WIDE GOING FROM 115.
EXCUSE ME. 119, 2 IN 24 AND IN 20. AND THEN IN 20 AND 25 AND NOW IN 26.
157. JUST FOR THE BUILDING VALUE. THAT'S THE CONCERN.
OVER 40,000. YEAH. SO IF YOU WHAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN HERE IS AGAIN STUDY THE SALES BACK TO 2018. AND I HAVE THEM STRATIFIED BY VISION STYLE CODE AND MANUFACTURED HOME, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE WERE 38 SALES, AND ON THE WHOLE THEY WERE.
THE MEDIAN RATIO WAS 84%. WHICH IS ACTUALLY ROUGHLY 5% LESS THAN THE THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
SO IN SUMMARY, WE RECOMMEND THE COUNTY RECOMMENDS NO CHANGE TO THE ASSESSMENT.
SO THE ONLY THE ONLY POINT I HAVE TO BRING UP WITH.
IF WE WANT TO STRICTLY TALK ABOUT RESALE OF MY PROPERTY.
AS PROBABLY MOST OF Y'ALL KNOW, BECAUSE I OWN 68 ACRES.
THE THING THAT I FACED, AND PROBABLY THE THING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD FACE, IS WHEN YOU GO TO BUY, BUY THIS PROPERTY, YOU CAN'T GET A CONVENTIONAL MORTGAGE.
IT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD BECAUSE THAT HOUSE IS NOT ON THE FOUNDATION.
IT IS ON IT IS ON BLOCKS. SO THE BANK LOOKS AS IF IT IS STRICTLY LAND.
SO IN MY MIND'S EYE, THAT MAKES IT THAT MAKES IT A STEEP UPHILL BATTLE TO RESELL.
BUT IT'S A DYNAMIC THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR MY, WELL, FOR ME AND MY PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THE WAY IT'S SET UP WITH THE HOUSE. AND IT'S NOT. IT'S THE SAME DYNAMIC.
IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULTY WITH THE FOUNDATION AND THINGS FOR THESE OTHER MANUFACTURED HOMES, ASSUMING THAT THEY ARE ALSO ON A ON A PIER FOUNDATION SKIRT.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM PROBABLY ARE. SOME OF THEM ARE ON A PERMANENT BLOCK FOUNDATION, I'M SURE.
DID YOU SAY IT WAS REDUCED 38,300 DURING THE INFORMAL APPEAL?
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13,013? 13,500 000. OUTBUILDINGS FOR THE OUTBUILDING.OUTBUILDINGS. OH, OKAY. GOTCHA.
BUT I LOVE THAT. IF I KNOW IF YOU COME, IF YOU COME IN AND LOOK AT IT.
SO IF I COULD ASK TWO QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY WAS, IS SO WHAT IS THE CURRENT TOTAL VALUE OF THE PROPERTY? AND WAS I HEARING OVER MARIANNE SHOULDER HERE.
BUT I DON'T SEE WHAT A PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE VALUE WAS.
SO THE MARKET VALUE IS $422,700. AND THAT'S A REDUCTION FROM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED OF 4.362.
SO THE 13 FIVE REDUCTION WAS FOR THE OUTBUILDINGS THAT ARE DILAPIDATED.
OKAY. SO THE CURRENT FAIR MARKET VALUE IS TO 422 FOR 22.
YEP. YOU ALL ARE NOT QUESTIONING THE LAND. NO, MA'AM.
WHAT ARE YOU QUESTIONING? THE IMPROVEMENT SHOULD BE HOW MUCH? I LIKE FOR IT TO BE BACK WHERE IT WAS AT ONE NIGHT.
119. TWO. YES, MA'AM. MAN, BUT I. I'LL TAKE WHAT I CAN GET.
I PROMISE. IF YOU GO. I MEAN, YOU'RE WELCOME.
YEAH, THEY LOOK GREAT. THEY GOT A ROOF ON THEM.
IT'S JUST ONE PIECE AT A TIME. SO JUST TO KIND OF SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS AT ONE 1902 FOR WELL OVER TWO YEARS.
AND THERE IS SOME APPRECIATION ON THE HOUSES.
I AGREE THAT 157 IS A LITTLE HIGH. I MAKE A MOTION THAT LAND STAY AT WHAT IT IS, AND THE HOUSE WOULD INCREASE TO 138 ONE, WHICH IS KIND OF SPLITTING THE DIFFERENCE.
COULD YOU LIVE WITH 138 THREE? I JUST I DID 10% ADJUSTMENT FOR ECONOMIC.
OKAY. AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE 138 300. YOU SEE THIS TOP LINE THERE ON YOUR SCREEN MAYBE.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S MY MOTION IS IT'S TO GO TO 138 THREE.
THAT WOULD BRING YOUR TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE TO 40534435435.
YES, MA'AM. ONE. I'M GETTING LISTENED UP. SO IT'S ON THE SCREEN HERE.
OKAY, WHERE AM I? WHERE THE APPRAISED IS WHERE MY SCREEN 35.
YES, MA'AM. WELL, IF YOU TRANSPOSE NUMBERS, THAT'S HOW IT COMES IN.
THAT WAS LIKE MY MY 15%. I NEVER SAID I WAS GOOD AT MATH.
YEAH. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. LONG DAY. LOOKING AT NUMBERS.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, MISS ABERNATHY. OKAY. OKAY.
DO I HAVE A DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.
OPPOSED? SO WE LOWERED YOUR. YOUR LAND. STAYED THE SAME.
WE LOWERED YOUR IMPROVEMENTS TO 138 THREE. AND TOTAL ASSESSMENTS WILL BE FOR 0354.
THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK TO Y'ALL. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
HERE. I GOTTA USE THE RESTROOM. BRIANNA. TOMKO.
OH, MISS TOMKO, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A MINUTE? WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK. I PROMISE I'LL BE QUICK.
HONEY. YOU'RE FINE. I APPRECIATE YOU WAITING.
WE'VE HAD A LONG AFTERNOON. I'M A 26 YEAR OLD GIRL.
THAT'S NICE. I'LL PROMISE YOU, WE WON'T BITE.
JUST MAKE SURE YOU SEND HIM THE TAX BILL. YEAH.
IT WENT UP $400,000. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT DID. 536%.
OH, YEAH. OH, I DIDN'T EVEN LOOKED IT UP.
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I THINK I'M ALSO GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.44 TO 91. NO WONDER DAD WENT OVER TO THE BEACH.
WHAT'S HE. DOING IN HERE? THAT SHOULD BE THE LAST ONE.
HO HO HO HO HO HO HO! WE ARE HERE. THAT'S WHY WE JUST.
UNDER 6%. UNLESS IT'S COMPLETELY.
14. FOR TONIGHT 536 .31 14. OH, REALLY? OH MY WORD.
MUST HAVE GOLD ON IT OR SOMETHING. LET'S GO. TRES.
YOU CAN COME ON UP. YEAH, WE'RE READY FOR YOU.
COME ON UP. COME ON. COME ON. YOU STATE YOUR FULL NAME, PLEASE.
BRIANNA LEE TOMKO. AND THIS PROPERTY IS IN YOUR NAME? IT IS? YES, MA'AM. WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR? A PROMISE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TODAY UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY.
I DO. THANK YOU. MA'AM. GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO I AM HERE.
BEFORE MY GRANDMOTHER PASSED AWAY BACK IN DECEMBER, SHE GIFTED ME FIVE ACRES OF LAND ON OUR FAMILY FARM THAT I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BUILD ON. AND BECAUSE OF HOW THINGS ARE TODAY, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE PERSON RIGHT NOW.
SO THE RANCH LAND WAS ORIGINALLY ASSESSED AT 1404.
AND I DID CALL THE FIRST ROUND OF EVERYTHING AND DISPUTED IT BECAUSE AFTER THE 14TH FLOOR, IT THEN WENT UP TO $152,800 FOR FIVE ACRES OF LAND THAT HAS NO HOUSE ON IT.
NO. NO. WELL, NO SEWER, NO. NOTHING LIKE THAT.
I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH IT. IT JUST SITS THERE.
THE ONLY ACCESS AT IT. THAT'S TO THE PROPERTY IS MY GRANDMA'S LANE THAT LEADS TO HER FARMHOUSE.
BUT THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY OR ANYTHING THAT IS HAS BEEN MADE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND THEY DON'T THINK THAT FIVE ACRES OF LAND WOULD SELL FOR 91.
SEVEN SO NOW IS WHERE YOUR GRANDMOTHER LIVES IN THAT FARMHOUSE IS STILL SOMEBODY LIVING THERE? SO I'M ACTUALLY. IT WAS BUILT IN 1780. IT'S THE OLDEST HOUSE IN PRINCE GEORGE.
NO. GOOD FOR YOU. BECAUSE MY DAD GOT THE PROPERTY WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS PASSED AWAY.
BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONLY GUY OR THE ONLY MALE IN THE FAMILY OF THE CHILDREN, AND I'M AN ONLY CHILD, SO I'M GOING TO INHERIT A LOT OF THINGS, AND I'M SURE I'LL BE HAVING.
YOU. JUST WANTED YOU TO GET USED TO DOING THIS TODAY.
GUESS I'LL BE BACK TO SEE Y'ALL SOMETIME. THAT WAS NOT NICE.
I TOLD HIM, I SAID HE WAS TELLING ME LAST NIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THAT KIND OF DID A LOT OF THIS FOR ME, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I JUST JUST KIND OF AM HERE.
AND I SAID, YOU'RE GOING WITH ME TOMORROW, RIGHT? HE SAID, I'M GOING TO VIRGINIA BEACH TO PLAY GOLF.
AND I SAID, PERFECT. I'LL GUESS I'LL DO WHAT I CAN.
SO WHAT WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I, I DON'T KNOW IF I MEAN, MAYBE TO BE BACK DOWN CLOSER TO WHAT THE LAND WAS WHEN IT WAS STILL THE SAME FIVE ACRES IT IS TODAY. BEFORE IT WENT UP TO $91,000.
WHAT DID IT GO TO BEFORE THAT? RIGHT. IT WENT DOWN.
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AND THEY AGREED TO BRING IT DOWN SO. WELL. SO THIS SO WHAT MISTER WINFREY 152 EIGHT.SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY 14 FOUR. AND THEN AFTER IT WAS 14, FOR I PAID WHAT IT WAS FOR THAT.
AND THEN WHEN I GOT THE NEXT ASSESSOR'S THING IN THE MAIL, WE SAW THAT IT WAS A VALUED AT 152,000 AND HAD GONE UP FROM 906 1.11%. SO I CALLED THEM. I SPOKE WITH SOMEBODY.
HE SAID, I COMPLETELY AGREE. THERE'S NO WAY I'LL BE BACK IN TOUCH WITH YOU.
I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY ELSE. NOBODY EVER GOT IN CONTACT WITH ME TO TELL ME ANYTHING.
I JUST GOT A REVISED THING IN THE MAIL SAYING IT WAS 91 SEVEN.
NOBODY CALLED AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE DID. THIS IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT. I JUST GOT A NEW ASSESSMENT.
NOBODY I NEVER GOT BACK IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
THEY SAID THEY'D CALL BACK, BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WE THINK HE GOT FIRED. SO. YEAH. OKAY. JASON? YES, MA'AM. SO I MISSED THE BEGINNING PART OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S ALL OPEN PASTURE LAND. IS THAT CORRECT? AND DOES IT LOOK? DOES IT TAKE THE SHAPE AS YOU SEE OVER HERE? IS THAT A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF THE WAY THAT THE PROPERTY LAYS? YEAH. I GUESS. OKAY. IS THAT, LIKE, IS THAT SO THAT PROPERTY.
SO THE HOUSE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, THAT 135, TWO SEVEN.
THAT'S MY GRANDPARENTS HOUSE. AND THEN THE HOUSE AND THE PARCEL THAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S MY PARENT'S HOUSE. THAT'S WHERE I CURRENTLY LIVE.
AND THEN THAT'S MY PARCEL THAT HAS THE WEIRD LOOKING SHAPE.
YES. BUT DOES IT DOES IT FOR OLD STAGE? IT'S ON OLD STAGE.
OKAY. YEAH. SO IT HAS. IT HAS GOOD ROAD FRONTAGE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY WETLANDS ON IT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
IT HAS SOME CONTOUR, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S OVERWHELMINGLY, YOU KNOW.
IT'S NOT DEVASTATING TO THE VALUE OF. THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN RECOMMEND IS THAT SHE WAS SAYING, A SHAPE A SHAPE ADJUSTMENT IT HAD. IT CURRENTLY HAS NO ADJUSTMENTS AT ALL FOR LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS.
SO I CAN SEE A SHAPE. I DON'T SEE A WETLAND, I DON'T SEE A RESTRICTIVE EASEMENTS.
GOT A LONG ROAD FRONTAGE. SO I COULD SAY A 20% REDUCTION FOR SHAPE.
WHAT ABOUT ACCESS? IT HAS GOOD ACCESS BECAUSE IT HAS A LONG ROAD FRONTAGE.
YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT A CURVE. IT'S NOT A CURVE.
I DID LOOK INTO THAT AND IT IS A DITCH. SO IN ORDER TO PUT A DRIVEWAY FROM THE ROAD FRONT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DIG OUT THE DITCH TO HAVE A FLAT, SLOPED DRIVEWAY OR LANE PUT IN TO GET ONTO THE PROPERTY.
BECAUSE ALL OF THAT RIGHT THERE IS ALL GROWN UP DITCH THAT VDOT HASN'T TOUCHED.
NORMALLY MY DAD HAS TO TAKE THE BUSH HOG OUT THERE TO DO IT.
ISN'T IT NEAR A CURVE. IT'S IN A CURVE. YEAH.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S SHOWING. STRAIGHT ROAD. LIKE IT LOOKS PRETTY STRAIGHT TO ME.
IT'S TWO CURVES. IT'S IN THE MIDDLE. SHE LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
HOUSES. MARRY THE RIGHT MAYOR. POWERS? YEP. THAT'S IT.
ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE POINTING AT NOW, JASON? WHICH ONE? OKAY, NOW I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.
THANK YOU. JERRY. THERE'S MARY POWERS, AND THEN THIS IS TO THE NORTH.
JOHN. HOW? JOHN. HELL, YEAH. I KNOW RIGHT WHERE THAT IS.
YEAH. JASON, CAN YOU GIVE US THE LAND VALUES ON THOSE TWO PARCELS? YOU JUST. ABSOLUTELY. 13524. OLD STAGE. I THINK THE ONE MARY ELIZABETH.
I THINK THE ONE TO THE NORTH OF HIS IN HIS PICTURE WAS FIVE, SO.
OH, REALLY? OKAY. I DON'T THINK MARY'S IS, BUT IT COULD BE THAT 173 THREE OKAY.
SO I THINK THE 73 IS WITH HIS 20%. YOU THINK THIS ONE IS FIVE ACRES? THIS ONE ALSO IS FIVE. BOTH OF THESE ARE FIVE ACRES.
JOHN HALE'S FIVE ACRES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THIS.
I'M LOOKING AT POWERS BECAUSE 13524. IT'S THE MOST SIMILAR, I THINK.
135. TWO FOUR. OLD. OLD STAGE. YEP.
SO THEY'RE THERE. FIVE ACRES IS ALSO 91,000. WITH NO LAND INFLUENCE FACTORS.
THE. OKAY. THE POWERS ACROSS THE ROAD. AND I CAN LOOK UP THE.
THIS ONE PROBABLY HAS SOMETHING ON IT. 13550.
LET'S JUST FOR GIGGLES, WE'LL DO THAT. 13550.
OLD STAGE. THIS ONE HAS AN EASEMENT FOR POWER
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LINE TO THE NORTH THERE. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOW AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE.HER POWER LINE DOESN'T TOUCH NECESSARILY. IT'S CLOSE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ARGUABLY THE SAME.
BUT WHEN I WAS GOING, JUST. SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
OKAY. GOOD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WHEN I WAS PLANNING ON BUILDING THERE IS A LOT THERE IS AN EASEMENT, ONE THAT PROPERTY, BECAUSE THERE IS POWER LINES THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT FIELD.
THAT'S PROPERTY OF VDOT. AND I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD CLOSER TO THE ROAD ON MY PROPERTY, BECAUSE I HAVE TO BUILD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FOOT AWAY FROM THE POWER LINES THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY ALREADY.
BECAUSE THE POWER LINES RUN RIGHT UP, LIKE, SO, LIKE WHERE MY PROPERTY IS.
AND THAT OUTLINE, THERE'S POWER LINES. THAT'S WON THE PROPERTY ON THE SAME LAND.
IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARILY IN MY PLAT. SO WHEN I WAS GOING TO BUILD AND WAS LOOKING AT BUILDING, THERE WERE CERTAIN FOOTAGE THAT I HAD TO BE AWAY FROM THOSE POWER LINES IN ORDER TO BUILD A HOUSE, WHICH PUSHED THE HOUSE CLOSER TO THE ROAD. JASON OR JOHN? DO Y'ALL KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES BEHIND THE $60,000 REDUCTION BEFORE TODAY? I DON'T I DO REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT IT. I DO REMEMBER I DON'T OFFHAND.
I DO REMEMBER TALKING TO JASON ABOUT THIS, THOUGH, AND NOTING THE POWER LINES.
SO I ALSO NOTED THERE ARE A COUPLE DRIVEWAYS THAT COME IN KIND OF ON A CURVE THERE.
SO I DO KIND OF QUESTION I'M WITH JASON ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT YEAH.
AND AND THERE IS A SHAPE OF IT I'M NOT SURE IF I BROUGHT UP AS WELL.
YEAH. SO WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING IN JUST MAKING AN EDUCATED GUESS.
NO, JUST THEY'RE THE SAME SIZE. YEAH, BASICALLY THE SAME SIZE.
YOU CAN CHECK THE PROPERTY. WHEN WAS YOUR PROPERTY? WHEN WAS IT SPLIT OFF? JUST THIS YEAR. RIGHT.
IT WAS LIKE LAST YEAR. WHEN WAS IT SUBDIVIDED? DO YOU KNOW? I'M GOING TO SAY I'LL. I'LL SAY LAST YEAR.
OKAY, I THINK SO. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ASSESSMENT HISTORY.
TO REFER BACK TO. SO IT WAS, IT WAS APRIL 24TH WASN'T IT.
APRIL 24TH. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE ADJUSTMENT YOU'VE DONE TAKES IT DOWN TO WHAT, 66,000? AND THAT'S FROM 90. WHAT WAS THAT ASSESSMENT. THAT 179817.
SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME CONSIDERING THE TWO ACROSS THE STREET ARE STILL AT 91 SEVEN.
YEAH. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN THE BENEFIT OF A YEAR OF UNDER ASSESSMENT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REDUCE THE VALUE OF THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL DOWN TO 66,000.
AS ADVISED BY THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? WE'VE REDUCED THE TAX ON YOUR PROPERTY TO $66,000. ASSESSMENT. YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE VERIFYING THAT.
THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. SO HAVE A GOOD DAY.
THANK YOU. TAKE CARE. GO BACK AND TELL YOUR DAD NOW THAT YOU GOT IT RAISED.
MOTION TO ADJOURN, MADAM. MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. JASON, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I WOULD, I WOULD I HOPE THAT Y'ALL THINK ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
NO WAY. WHATEVER Y'ALL THINK. CAN WE LEAVE OUR TABLETS? YES. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR TABLETS HERE FOR THE BOARD.
ALRIGHT. I DON'T MIND IN ANY WAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.