[A. Call to Order (6:00 pm)]
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>> GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS FEBRUARY THE 25TH.
IT'S TIME FOR OUR REGULAR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK MRS. KNOT, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> NEXT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE ADOPTION OF OUR AGENDA.
>> IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. PUGH THAT WE WOULD ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRINTED.
MRS. KNOT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> YES. NOW, TO THE BUSINESS PART OF OUR MEETING,
[B. Business Meeting]
I'M GOING TO ASK MRS. WAYMACK IF SHE WOULD DO THE BOARD'S INVOCATION TO BE FOLLOWED BY MR. WEBB DOING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.>> OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS.
WE ASK YOU, FATHER, TO BE WITH THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, AND ALL WHO ARE TROUBLED IN BODY, MIND, AND SPIRIT.
BE WITH THEM, LORD, AND GIVE THEM COMFORT.
WE ASK YOU TO KEEP YOUR MIGHTY HAND ON OUR COUNTRY, OUR STATE, AND THIS BOARD.
GUIDE US, FATHER, AND HAVE US TO DO THY WILL.
IN YOUR HOLY NAME, WE PRAY. AMEN.
>> THANK YOU, MRS. WAYMACK, AND THANK YOU, MR. WEBB.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S NOW TIME FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS A TIME FOR YOU TO COME UP, AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THIS BOARD, THE ONLY RESTRICTION IS IT CANNOT BE ANYTHING RELATED TO A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA.
WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD COME UP.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THAT TOPIC THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON.
AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYONE, MRS. KNOT, THAT HAS REGISTERED FOR YOU?
>> IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP FOR PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE APPROACH THE DAIS AT THIS TIME.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. FLOYD, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WILLIAM STEEL, 9921 COUNTY LINE ROAD, VIRGINIA.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS HERE.
WE BROUGHT UP SOME VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS THAT SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE DISCUSSED WITH US PUBLICLY THAT YOU WERE GOING TO WORK ON AND START MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. HOLIDAYS ARE OVER.
WE'RE READY TO GO INTO SPRING.
WE'D LIKE TO START SEEING A MOVE ON SOME OF THESE ACTIONS THAT YOU HAVE STATED THAT, YES, YOU AGREE WITH.
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE START WORKING ON THESE AND START MOVING IT. IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.
SUCH THINGS AS THE SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS, TERM LIMITS, RE-HELPING OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND OTHER ACTIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE BUDGET. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
I HAPPENED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT, AND I SEE THAT THEY ARE STILL WANTING TO THROW A LOT OF MONEY AT PROBLEMS THAT'S GOING TO COST US TAXPAYERS MONEY.
I'M HOPING THIS YEAR WE WON'T SEE AN INCREASE LIKE WE HAVE FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS.
ANYWAY, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON, BUT IT'S ABOUT TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WE START ACTING ON WHAT YOU HAVE TOLD US IN OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO START WORKING ON, AND LET'S START SEEING SOME ACTION ON THIS.
WE SEE A LOT OF ACTION GOING ON WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES WITH THE SOLAR PROGRAM.
GENTLEMEN, IT'S LONG OVERDUE THAT WE DON'T STRENGTHEN THAT SOLAR PROGRAM.
AGAIN, MOST OF YOU WHO HAVE TALKED TO US, AGREE, YES, WE WANT TO DO IT.
FOLKS, LIP SERVICE IS OVER WITH.
LET'S START ACTING ON WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US THAT YOU AGREE WITH AND THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH.
I'M STARTING TO LOOK AT ACTIONS NOW.
NOT ME, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR NETWORK IS STARTING TO LOOK AT ACTIONS.
PLEASE, LET'S QUIT THE LIP SERVICE NOW.
WE APPRECIATE YOU. WE'RE GLAD YOU SUPPORT US.
NOW, LET'S START SHOWING SOME DEEDS AND LET'S GET THIS BUDGET DOWN.
THANK GOODNESS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I HOPE THIS COUNTY WILL START DOING THE SAME THING AND START DOING DOGE WORK, SLASHING THE FAT THAT'S IN THIS COUNTY.
IT'S THE THING TO DO RIGHT NOW, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT. WE'RE BLOATED.
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TOO MUCH MONEY. IT'S ABOUT TIME WE PUT TAXPAYERS FIRST.THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE TAXPAYER.
QUIT THE GOVERNMENT, QUIT THE ADMINISTRATION, START WORRYING ABOUT THE TAXPAYER FIRST.
I CAN'T KEEP AFFORDING PAYING THE MONEY THAT WE'RE PAYING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. STEEL, I THINK, OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME THINGS.
THERE'S SOME THINGS I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD TO THE BOARD MEMBERS I HAVE NOT YET COMMUNICATED WITH THEM ON.
I THINK YOU WILL START TO SEE [OVERLAPPING].
>> I KNOW I WILL, MR. FLOYD, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS, AND IF I MAY, I KNOW WE ADDRESSED THE CHAIRMAN, BUT MR. CHAIRMAN, PUBLIC CITIZENS, THE VOTERS, YOU GOT TO COME OUT HERE AND SUPPORT THE BOARD.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT IF WE DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO COME OUT HERE AND STAND UP AND SPEAK TO YOU.
I DON'T SEE VERY MANY PEOPLE ATTENDING THESE BOARD MEETINGS.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO COMPLAIN ON FACEBOOK.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO COMPLAIN ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
GET OFF YOUR BUTTS, GET IN HERE, BRING OUR CONCERNS TO THE BOARD.
BECAUSE AS WE SAW WITH THE GUN CONTROL TWO YEARS AGO, WHAT CAUSED THE BOARD TO MOVE? HE HAD 1,200 PEOPLE OUT THERE.
YOU MOVED ON THAT ONE THAT NIGHT.
THE BOTTOM LINE, IT'S UP TO THE CITIZENS.
IF THE CITIZENS WANT TO COMPLAIN AND REST ON THEIR BUTTS, WE CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
I DON'T MEAN TO BE CHASTISING MY FRIENDS OUT THERE, BUT COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS THE EASIEST GOVERNMENT TO WORK WITH.
YOU CAN'T WORK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
YOU CAN WORK WITH OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
YOU'RE THE ONES THAT TAKE THE MOST OF THE TAX DOLLARS FROM US, SO CITIZENS HAVE TO DO THEIR PART TOO, MR. FLOYD.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT YOU HAVE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT? I'LL ASK ONE MORE TIME, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT, SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THIS BOARD? IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT THIS TIME, AND WE WILL MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
[C. Consent Agenda]
THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.BOARD MEMBERS, I WILL ASK YOU, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?
>> IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECOND BY MR. COX.
>> YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT IS LISTED.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MRS. KNOT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> AS PART OF THAT CONSENT AGENDA, THERE WAS ONE ITEM ON THERE,
[D. Presentations]
WHICH IS A PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE FOR SERGEANT CLIFFORD SKELTON.I'M GOING TO ASK MR. COX AT THIS TIME, WOULD HE PLEASE COME FORWARD, REPRESENTING THE BOARD HERE TONIGHT, AND PRESENT THIS PRESENTATION.
BOARD MEMBERS, I'D LIKE FOR THE REST OF US TO PLEASE STAND.
AUDIENCE, YOU DON'T NEED TO STAND UNLESS YOU WANT TO.
I'M JUST ASKING THE BOARD MEMBERS TO STAND. [BACKGROUND]
>> AGAIN, I'M CHOSEN TO DO THIS TONIGHT, WHICH I LOVE DOING IT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
MR. SKELTON AND I GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER PRETTY GOOD WHEN HE WAS A RESOURCE OFFICER AT MV CLEMENS.
I USED TO WANT TO [INAUDIBLE], BUT AGAIN, IT'S MY PLEASURE AND I'M PROUD TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU.
IT'S ACCOMMODATION FOR SERGEANT CLIFFORD D. SKELTON, WHO SERVES PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, PRESENTED ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2025.
WHEREAS ON MARCH 16TH, 2007, CLIFFORD D. SKELTON WAS HIRED AS A POLICE OFFICER AND REMAINED IN THIS CAPACITY UNTIL HE RESIGNED AT THE END OF 2011.
AND WHEREAS ON DECEMBER 16TH, 2013, CLIFFORD SKELTON RETURNED TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AS POLICE OFFICER.
AND WHEREAS ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2008, HE WAS PROMOTED TO POLICE SERGEANT.
WHEREAS ON DECEMBER 1, 2020, HE WAS PROMOTED AS POLICE LIEUTENANT, AND ON JANUARY 15TH, 2024, HE REQUESTED TRANSITION BACK TO HIS ROLE OF POLICE SERGEANT AND REMAINED IN THIS CAPACITY UNTIL HE RETIRED IN FEBRUARY 1, 2025.
WHEREAS SERGEANT SKELTON IS A UNITED STATES ARMY VETERAN, WHEREAS DURING HIS CAREER, SERGEANT SKELTON SERVED AS A GENERAL INSTRUCTOR, FIREARMS INSTRUCTOR, COORDINATOR, ACTIVE SHOOTER INSTRUCTOR, TASER INSTRUCTOR, AND TRAINING COORDINATOR,, CHILD PASTOR, SAFETY SEAT TECHNICIAN, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER THERE ALSO, AND A UAS [INAUDIBLE], AND WHEREAS SERGEANT SKELTON THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS LETTERS ACCOMMODATIONS FROM CITIZENS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS FOR THE ASSISTANCE HE HAS PROVIDED.
WHEREAS SERGEANT SKELTON HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN NUMEROUS CRITICAL INCIDENTS AND
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HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE COUNTY COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.WHEREAS ON MAY 24TH, 2021, CLIFFORD SKELTON RESPONDED TO A DISPATCH CALL ON THE 5300 BLOCK OF [INAUDIBLE] ROAD FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE CRASH WITHIN A TRAP.
INFORMATION WAS RELAYED TO THE RESPONDING UNITS THAT THE VEHICLE WAS ON FIRE.
A MAN WAS STILL INSIDE THE CAR SCREAMING AND AMMUNITION INSIDE THE VEHICLE WAS IGNITING.
CLIFFORD SKELTON WAS THE FIRST OFFICER ON THE SCENE, WHO WITHOUT DELAY, ROUND DOWN THE DITCH LINES IN THE WOODS TO EXTRACT THE MAN TRAPPED INSIDE THE CAR HAVING EXTREME DEEP HEAVY SMOKE.
CLIFFORD SKELTON ASSISTED IN FREEING THE SUBJECT IN THE VEHICLE AND PULLING HIM TO SAFETY BY SAVING A LIFE.
CLIFFORD SKELTON SELFLESS DEDICATION TO DUTY AND COURAGE IN THE FACE OF DANGER WAS SIGNIFICANT IN THIS INCIDENT, AND WHEREAS SERGEANT SKELTON'S COWORKER REFERRED TO HIM AS DEDICATED AND TRUSTWORTHY, AND WHEREAS [INAUDIBLE] REMARKABLE CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, SERGEANT SKELTON HAS SERVED AS CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY AND THE COMMONWEALTH TO THE UTMOST OF HIS ABILITY, DEMONSTRATING PATRIOTISM, INTEGRITY, AND DEVOTION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN A MANNER TO SPEAKING THE DEDICATION OF A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT.
NOW THERE BE RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE, THE 25TH DAY OF FEBRUARY 2025, THUS HEREBY COMMEND POLICE SERGEANT CLIFFORD SKELTON FOR THE COMPLETION OF 16 TOTAL YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS, AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS BOARD WISHES TO EXTEND TO SERGEANT CLIFFORD SKELTON MUCH HAPPINESS AND CONTINUED SUCCESS AS HE ENTERS THE NEXT PHASE OF HIS LIFE.
SIGNED BY FLOYD M. BROWN JR., CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR AND JEFFREY STOKE, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR [APPLAUSE]
>> I DIDN'T REALLY PREPARE A SPEECH.
THE SHERIFF BACK THERE WAS WARNING ME THAT I NEEDED TO A HAVE ONE.
BIGGEST THING I COULD SAY IS I'M GOING TO MISS WORKING WITH PEOPLE.
NOT GOING TO MISS SOME OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, THE CHAOS THAT COMES WITH IT.
I'M ACTUALLY LEAVING EARLIER THAN I WANTED TO.
THE 20 YEARS OF FUN IN THE MILITARY HAS FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO ME AND MY BODY JUST CANNOT PERFORM LIKE IT USED TO.
I THINK I'M GOING TO ENJOY THIS, AND I'M STILL GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COUNTY, BE A PART OF HELPING OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE]
>> THANK YOU, SIR. THOSE ARE ALWAYS FUN TO DO, ALWAYS.
NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR COMMENT PERIOD.
[E. Comments]
NOW, TIME FOR OUR SUPERVISORS COMMENTS.>> GOOD EVENING. I THINK SPRING IS ON THE WAY, SO WE CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE SNOW, ALTHOUGH, I SAW SOMEWHERE THAT THERE WAS MORE PREDICTED.
LET'S HOPE NOT. EVERYBODY ENJOY THE NICE WEATHER.
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT.
I AGREE, DEFINITELY NEED TO START PUTTING SOME RUBBERS TO THE ROAD.
LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM MR. BROWN ON THE THINGS HE'S GOTTEN IN QUEUE.
IF YOU GOT A QUESTION ON WHY I MAKE A DECISION OR SOMETHING THAT I DO, PLEASE CALL AND ASK.
I'D BE GLAD TO SHARE. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT SO FAR.
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MR. STEEL, I AGREE.
PEOPLE INVOLVED IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND TALKING, THAT'S HOW THINGS GET DONE.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU, AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS PUTTING DOWN THE COMMUNITY EVENT WE HAVE IN DISPUTANTA.
MOST OF THE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE WENT OUT HERE TONIGHT ALREADY ARE OUTSIDE, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THAT, AGAIN, IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS PAST WEEKEND WE HAD TWO OFFICERS IN VIRGINIA BEACH THAT DID NOT GET TO GO HOME AT THE HANDS OF SOMEBODY.
EVERY TIME A POLICE OFFICER PULLS A VEHICLE OVER, THEY'RE FACED WITH THAT.
I DON'T THINK THEY GET THE APPRECIATION THEY SHOULD GET.
THERE ARE BAD APPLES IN EVERY WALK OF LIFE, EVERY CAREER.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BAD APPLES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY INVOLVEMENT IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, THEY'RE VERY FAR AND FEW BETWEEN.
THESE GUYS AND GIRLS DO A GREAT JOB TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND KEEP THEM SAFE.
TONIGHT WHEN YOU GO HOME, SAY A LITTLE EXTRA PRAYER FOR THEM AND SAY A LITTLE EXTRA PRAYER FOR THE FAMILIES IN VIRGINIA BEACH. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. COX. MR. WEBB.
>> I CONCUR WITH WHAT MR. COX JUST SAID.
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THANK YOU-ALL FOR COMING OUT.>> I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT.
DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
AGAIN, I THINK OVER SOME TIME HERE OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO YOU'LL SEE SOME ACTIVITY ON SOME THINGS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, BUT WE'RE ALSO FOCUSED ON BUDGET AT THIS TIME.
I THINK WE'RE MEETING JUST ABOUT EVERY WEEK, WHETHER IT'S BUDGET OR REGULAR MEETING OR SOMETHING.
AGAIN, THANK EACH PERSON FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT, AND PLEASE COME OUT AND SUPPORT THESE MEETINGS.
THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND OUT WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN THE COUNTY, AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE YOUR OPINION WITH THIS BOARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, COMMENTS FROM OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR REMARKS, TOMORROW AT 6:00 PM, FEBRUARY 26TH, WILL BE OUR SECOND FY26 BUDGET WORK SESSION RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.
THEN THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 27TH AT 06:30 IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. FIRST AND ONLY REPORT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS
[F. Reports]
GOING TO BE ON THE HOPEWELL WATER RENEWAL WASTEWATER CAPACITY EVALUATION, AND THAT WILL BE BY MR. HOLCOMB, WHO IS OUR COUNTY ENGINEER.>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> WAIT, JUST A MINUTE AS THAT POPS UP.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL IN TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CAPACITY OF THE PLANT IS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE PRINCE GEORGE SENDING MORE SEWER THERE.
THEY HAVE RECENTLY COMPLETED A STUDY THAT WOULD EVALUATE JUST THAT.
THE STUDY THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED WAS IN DRAFT FORM.
THE STUDY WAS AN EVALUATION OF ALL THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE PLANT AND THE AVAILABLE CAPACITY THAT THE PLANT HAS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY'S PURPOSES, ANYWAY, IS TO DETERMINE THAT CURRENT CAPACITY OF THE PLANT AND ITS ABILITY TO RECEIVE UP TO FIVE MORE MGD OF ADDITIONAL FLOW FROM PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
>> IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THE REPORT, IT DOES DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLANT.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TREATMENT TRAINS, IF YOU WILL.
THERE'S A DOMESTIC SIDE AND AN INDUSTRIAL SIDE.
WE WOULD BE UTILIZING THE DOMESTIC SIDE OF THE PLANT.
YOU CAN SEE IN THAT LITTLE GRAPHIC BELOW WHERE THE SEWER CAN COME IN.
THE PORTION OF THAT IS THE DOMESTIC SIDE, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT TIES BACK IN INTO THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE.
AGAIN, I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS PLANT BY ANY STRETCH.
I WOULD DEFER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPLETE OPERATIONS ON THIS TO THE CITY AND THEIR PLANT MANAGER OR PLANT DIRECTOR ON HOW THEY OPERATE.
HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW THAT THE DOMESTIC DOES GET TIED BACK IN TO THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE BEFORE IT GETS WHERE IT DOES GET SOME FURTHER TREATMENT WITH THE INDUSTRIAL FLOWS BEFORE IT'S DISCHARGED OUT INTO THE BAY OR INTO THE RIVER.
THESE FLOWS THAT DO DISCHARGE IN THE RIVER ALL BASED ON THE FLOWS BEING COMBINED.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DOMESTIC SIDE PROVIDES SOME INCENTIVES TO THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE BY MIXING THAT FLOW, IT CAN COOL THE FLOW DOWN, AND AS I UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, THIS IS COMING FROM THE PLANT DIRECTOR.
THAT COOLING ALLOWS THE TREATMENT PROCESS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
THAT COMBINED FLOW, THAT THE PERMITTED DISCHARGE LIMITS ARE REFERRING TO.
ANYTIME THERE'S A DISCHARGE LIMIT FOR THIS PLANT, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT COMBINED FLOW.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LIT BIT MORE BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL CHARTS GOING TO GO THROUGH TO HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LOADS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
ALSO IN THE INTRODUCTION, THEY IDENTIFY A FEW EXISTING CONCERNS WITH THE PLANT.
THERE ARE SOME ONGOING ISSUES WITH THE SOLIDS' HANDLING PROCESS THAT'S NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE PLANT CURRENTLY.
THEY ARE WORKING ON SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS TO REPAIR THAT NOW.
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT THEY KNOW OF IS DEQ HAS PROPOSED SOME NEW LIMITS FOR AMMONIA, AND THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY HURT THEIR PLANT IN THE SENSE OF BEING ABLE TO MEET THOSE DISCHARGE LIMITS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE GOING TO REDUCE THOSE LIMITS BY ROUGHLY 80%.
WE'LL SEE THAT IN THESE SLIDES AS WELL AS WE GO THROUGH.
HOWEVER, THE IMPORTANT PART OF THIS SLIDE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THE CURRENT PLANT CANNOT MEET THE NEW LIMITS.
THERE WILL HAVE TO BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING PLANT.
IN A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY WITH THE PLANT DIRECTOR AND THEIR CONSULTANT WHO PREPARED THIS STUDY, I ASKED THEM THE COST WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, AND THEY SAID, ORIGINALLY, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN APPROACHING $100 MILLION IMPROVEMENTS
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IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CONVINCE DEQ TO RELAX THOSE PERMIT LIMITS.I BELIEVE HOPEWELL HAS INTRODUCED A STUDY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THOSE LIMITS CAN BE RELAXED.
I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
TALK ABOUT THE SOLIDS HANDLING PROCESS.
THE CITY WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO GIVE ME AND MISS PUDLO A TOUR A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND THIS IS THE EFFECTS OF THE SOLIDS HANDLING PROCESS, AS WAS EXPLAINED DURING THAT TOUR.
ON THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, YOU CAN SEE CIRCLED IN YELLOW, SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT SOLIDS THAT ARE NOT BEING FILTERED OUT THERE.
THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE IT TO THIS STAGE, AS I UNDERSTAND.
AS A RESULT, THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONSEQUENCES THAT IMPACTS THE PLANT.
AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE INTRODUCTION OF THE REPORT, IT'S NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE PLANT, THAT TOP PICTURE IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SOME OF THE SOLIDS WE HAD ESSENTIALLY SOLIDIFIED IN THESE CLARIFIERS.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME VEGETATION THAT'S GROWING IN THESE AREAS, THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY VEGETATION, THAT SHOULD BE LIKE A MUD SLURRY, IF YOU WILL, TO SCREEN OFF ANY SOLIDS OFF THE TOP AS WELL AS ON THE BOTTOM.
IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE NEEDED PRIOR TO PRINCE GEORGE, BUT THE REPORT DOES ASSUME THAT AS FAR AS FROM A CAPACITY EVALUATION, THE REPORT ASSUMES THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE, OR WILL BE DONE.
THIS FIRST TABLE IS REALLY DEFINING WHAT THE DESIGN WAS FOR THIS PLANT.
THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS HERE.
WHAT I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO REALLY ARE THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS.
THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTS ARE THOSE OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
YOU GO TO DOMESTIC TRAIN AND THEN TOTAL INDUSTRIAL TRAINS.
THEN THEY COMBINED THOSE TWO NUMBERS.
IT'S JUST THE ADDED NUMBER DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM IN BLUE.
BUT I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER THESE NUMBERS, BUT WE WILL TOUCH ON THESE AT THE TOP.
THESE ACRONYMS, BOD, TSS, AND TKM.
I'VE DEFINED THOSE AT THE BOTTOM FOR YOU, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, IT'S BIOCHEMICAL OXYGEN DEMAND, AND THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF OXYGEN THAT'S NECESSARY TO TREAT THE ORGANIC MATERIAL THAT'S IN THE WASTE.
IF YOU HAVE A HIGH BOD THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE THAT NUMBER 1, YOU COULD HAVE SOME HIGH TEMPERATURES, WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED TO INTRODUCE THE DOMESTIC SIDE BACK INTO THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE.
A HIGH BOD INDICATOR THAT THE TREATMENT PROCESS IS NOT WORKING WELL.
THEREFORE, THEY HAVE TO ADD EITHER MORE CHEMICALS OR ADD MORE OXYGEN TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY TREAT THE WASTE.
TSS STANDS FOR TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS.
THAT IS THE ORGANIC AND INORGANIC PARTICLES THAT ARE SUSPENDED IN THE WATER.
THAT'S THE PARTS WHERE THEY WILL EITHER ADD COAGULANT TO ALLOW THE SOLIDS TO EITHER SETTLE OR SECRETE IT OFF THE TOP.
BUT AGAIN, TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS IS A MEASUREMENT OF HOW WELL THE PLANT IS DOING, SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE NUMBERS IN HERE AS WELL.
TKN REALLY STANDS FOR TOTAL NITROGEN.
THE K THERE IS THE NAME OF THE CHEMIST THAT CAME UP WITH SOME METHOD OF MEASURING THE AMMONIA, AND IT'S A CONVERSION FACTOR INTO NITROGEN.
THAT REALLY ALSO GIVES YOU THE MEASURE OF NITROGEN SO YOU CAN DETERMINE THE POLLUTION LEVEL OF NITROGEN IN THE WASTEWATER.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHAT THE CURRENT FLOWS ARE BASED ON THE DESIGN FLOW.
THE PERCENTAGE IS OF THE DESIGN.
THE VERY FAR LEFT COLUMN TELLS YOU WHAT SOURCE IT IS, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE FLOW, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ROUGHLY NINE MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF FLOW GOING THROUGH THE DOMESTIC TRAIN OF THE TREATMENT PLANT.
THAT REPRESENTS 61% OF THE DESIGN.
AS YOU MOVE ACROSS THAT ROW, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE POUNDS PER DAY OF BOD IS ROUGHLY AT 80%.
THAT MEANS EFFECTIVELY 80% OF THE CAPACITY OF THAT PLANT HAS TAKEN UP EVEN THOUGH THE FLOW ONLY REPRESENTS 61%, IF YOU ADD MORE FLOW UNLESS THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO ADDRESS THE BOD, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO YOUR CAPACITY A LITTLE BIT SOONER.
THE SAME THING APPLIES TO THE TSS.
TSS IS THE REAL FACTOR HERE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.
TSS, WE KNOW, THEY ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE SURPASSING THEIR PERMIT LIMITS, BUT IT'S SURPASSING THEIR DESIGN CAPACITY OF THE PLANT.
THEY ARE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MEETING THEIR PERMIT LIMITS, BUT THEY'RE NOT USING THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FLOW, IF THEY DID USE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FLOW, THEY MAY EXCEED THE PERMIT LIMITS.
MAY EXCEED. I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN OF THAT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY DO IN THE PLANT.
THEN AGAIN, TKM, YOU CAN SEE IS ROUGHLY AROUND 60%.
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ON THE DOMESTIC SIDE, THE TKN IS RUNNING RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE FLOW. IT'S ABOUT 60%.WHEN YOU SEE TSS AT 144%, YOU KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.
THEY KNOW THERE'S ISSUES THEY GOT TO RESOLVE, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT RESOLVED.
THE NEXT ROW DOWN IS THE TOTAL INDUSTRIAL, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE ON THAT COLUMN, THAT NEARLY ALL OF THOSE FACTORS ARE CURRENTLY BEING EXCEEDED.
HOWEVER, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS NOT THOSE INDIVIDUALLY.
IT'S THE VERY BOTTOM ROW, THE DOMESTIC PLUS THE INDUSTRIAL.
ONCE, AS I MENTIONED, THESE GOT HAVE TO BE COMBINED, AND THIS IS WHY YOU SEE THE BENEFIT OF COMBINING THOSE TWO, WHERE YOU SEE THE EXCEEDANCE IN THE INDUSTRIAL FOR BOD, ADDING THAT DOMESTIC FLOW TO IT BRINGS IT DOWN BELOW THE LIMITS, SO IT MEETS THOSE DESIGN LIMITS.
HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUES WITH THE TSS.
TSS IS THE ONGOING ISSUE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE THROUGH SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THE CURRENT FLOW BEING NINE MGD, IF WE START ADDING MORE FLOW UP TO FIVE MGD, YOU MAY SEE SOME OF THESE LIMITS GET EXCEEDED.
ANY ADDITIONAL FLOWS THAT WE DO ADD COULD WORSEN THE PROBLEM UNLESS THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE PUT IN PLACE.
THIS IS A CHART OF THE ACTUAL EFFLUENT THAT THEY'RE DISCHARGING FROM THE PLANT VERSUS THE ACTUAL PERMIT LIMITS.
THIS IS WHERE I'M GETTING THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THEY STILL ARE UNDER THE PERMIT LIMITS.
THE COLORS HERE UNDER THE CURRENT PERMIT IF IT'S GREEN, THEN THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
IF IT'S THAT PINK OR RED, IT'S ACTUALLY THE ISSUE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RESOLVE.
HERE, YOU CAN SEE AMMONIA IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
THE CURRENT LIMITS THEY ARE MEETING.
HOWEVER, THAT RED 2.32 REPRESENTS WHAT DEQ IS SUGGESTING SHOULD BE THEIR PERMIT LIMITS.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES ON MEETING THAT LIMIT.
THIS IS WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME TYPE OF SIGNIFICANT PLANT IMPROVEMENTS.
IT IS THE ONE THAT IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS COULD BE APPROACHING $100 MILLION BASED ON THE PLANT DIRECTOR AND THE CONSULTANT, AS FAR AS THEIR BALLPARK NUMBERS.
THESE ARE BALLPARK, NOTHING SET IN STONE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE IN TSS, THEIR LIMITS HAVE NOT BEEN EXCEEDED FOR THEIR PERMIT.
EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE HIGH FOR THE DESIGN, THEY'RE STILL UNDER THE PERMIT LIMITS.
BUT WHAT THAT STILL SAYS IS, THEY'RE CLOSE TO THOSE LIMITS, AND IF WE ADD MORE FLOW, THEY COULD EXCEED THOSE PERMIT LIMITS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF FLOW THAT COMES INTO THE PLANT.
THE CONCLUSIONS OF THIS, AND THIS IS MY SUMMARY OF IT, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THEY'VE POINTED OUT, BUT THERE CURRENTLY IS NOT CAPACITY BASED ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE TSS CURRENTLY.
IF THEY DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS, THEN THERE ARE SOME ABILITY TO GET SOME PRINCE GEORGE FLOW IN THERE.
BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE, WHAT THAT COST IS TO THE COUNTY.
I'LL GET INTO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
THEY DID MENTION IN THE REPORT THAT SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO MULTIPLE COMPONENTS OF THE TREATMENT FACILITY MAY ALLOW UP TO 3.6 MGD, AND THAT'S THE LONG TERM FUTURE AVAILABILITY OF THE PLANT.
THE MAXIMUM WITHOUT AN EXPANSION OF THE PLANT THAT WE COULD GET IS 3.6.
IT FALLS SHORT OF THE FIVE MGD THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE.
THE COST ESTIMATES WERE NOT PART OF THE SCOPE OF THIS STUDY.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO AGAIN, WORK WITH THE CITY'S CONSULTANT, OR WE CAN ASK SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS AS WELL TO TRY TO BALLPARK THESE NUMBERS SO WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME BETTER INFORMATION AT A FUTURE BOARD MEETING SO WE CAN HELP MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON WHICH PATH TO GO TO.
SOME IMPROVEMENTS MAY BE NECESSARY FOR THE EXISTING PLANT TO MEET THE CURRENT DISCHARGE LIMITS.
AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE AMMONIA AND THE TSS.
LOOKS LIKE THE TSS IS GOOD ON PERMIT LIMITS, BUT THE DESIGN OF THE PLANT IS WHERE IT'S SUFFERING.
YOU REALLY CAN'T GO PAST THOSE DESIGN LIMITS.
OTHERWISE, YOUR PLANT IS NOT WORKING EFFECTIVELY OR EFFICIENTLY ENOUGH TO MEET THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
THE REPORT DOES NOT PROVIDE INFORMATION TO DETERMINE THE FULL IMPACT TO US, MEANING, WHAT'S THAT COST TO US? AGAIN, THE SCOPE WAS NOT MEANT TO DO THAT.
HOWEVER, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU IN THE NEXT MONTH SO WE CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHICH WAY WE NEED TO GO.
BUT IT DOES MENTION THAT A PLAN EXPANSION WOULD BE NECESSARY IF WE WANTED TO SEND FIVE MGD TO HOPEWELL.
THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM
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THE PLANT DIRECTORS CERTIFYING THAT THEY COULD ACCEPT UP TO TWO MGD IMMEDIATELY.THOSE COMES WITH THESE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT ARE SHOWN UP HERE.
THE TWO MGD WILL REQUIRE PLANT UPGRADES.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST IS.
THAT'S THE COST THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DETERMINE.
THE RATE FOR THE FLOW WILL BE DETERMINED UPON THEIR PERFORMING OF FISCAL ANALYSIS USING THEIR RATE CONSULTANT.
THEN THE DISCHARGE LOCATION WILL NEED TO BE DETERMINED AS WELL, AND WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY TO THE PLANT TO RECEIVE THAT FLOW, BUT ALSO IMPACT THE RATE TO PRINCE GEORGE.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY STILL NEED TO GET THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT.
JUST A REMINDER HERE, ACTUALLY, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD TO GET THIS $10 MILLION GRANT FROM VEDP.
AGAIN, THE COMMITMENTS ARE WE HAVE TO TREAT AND SUPPLY TWO MGD OF WATER AND WASTEWATER TO THAT SITE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH THAT FACILITY WITH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY BY APRIL 1ST.
I HAVE REACHED OUT TO VDP TO TRY TO CLARIFY WHAT TYPE OF AGREEMENT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
I'LL SAY IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A VERY WELL BUTTONED UP AGREEMENT, I DO NOT THINK WE CAN MEET THAT APRIL 1ST DEADLINE UNLESS THEY EXTEND THE DEADLINE.
WE ASKED THE QUESTION IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE SIMPLIFIED AGREEMENT IN PLACE WHILE WE WORK OUT THE ULTIMATE TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
MEANING THAT THE SIMPLE TERMS WILL BE, WE AGREE TO SEND IT TO HOPEWELL, HOPEWELL AGREES TO ACCEPT IT, WHICHEVER OPTION WE CHOSE.
HOPEWELL OR SUSSEX SERVICE AUTHORITY.
I'M WAITING TO HEAR RESPONSE BUT I WAS HOPING TO HAVE A RESPONSE TODAY FROM BDP.
AS SOON AS I HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I WILL SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD.
AGAIN, THE BOARD IS ALSO, AS PART OF THE RECEIVING THE GRANT, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE SOME MEANS OF EXPEDITING THE IMPROVEMENT.
I AM ATTENDING A DESIGN BUILD CONFERENCE NEXT MONTH TO TRY TO MEET SOME FOLKS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SO I CAN COME BACK A LITTLE MORE EDUCATED ON WHAT THE PROCESS MAY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT MEASURES THAT WE MAY NEED TO PUT IN PLACE, EVEN ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT MAY NEED TO TAKE PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
HOPEFUL I'LL BE BACK IN MARCH TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
THEN FINALLY, A QUICK STATUS UPDATE ON THE SUSSEX SERVICE AUTHORITY.
THEY ARE STILL ONGOING WITH THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY.
WE GOT DELAYED FROM THE SNOW EVENT.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET AT THEIR PLANT WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO WALK THE PLANT AND REALLY GET THROUGH THE MEET OF THAT STUDY.
THAT GOT DELAYED FROM THE SNOW.
WE WERE MEETING WITH THEM NOW ON THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK.
BUT WE DID DETERMINE THAT THE 18 INCH LINE, THE 18 INCH HDPE THAT IS ALREADY THERE IS THE ABANDONED GAS METHANE LINE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S 18 INCHES, THE INTERIOR DIAMETER IS ONLY 14 INCHES DUE TO THE THICKNESS OF THAT PIPE, SO THAT PIPE WILL NOT SATISFY THE HYDRAULIC NEEDS TO GET OUR FLOW TO THAT PLANT.
WE ARE NOW WORKING ON DETERMINING A BETTER ROUTE, AND THAT WAY WE CAN PRICE WHAT THAT ROUTE MIGHT LOOK LIKE, ALONG WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ULTIMATE COST WILL BE.
MISS RA IS WORKING WITH HAKA TO TRY TO DRAW UP SOME DRAFT AGREEMENT SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH BOTH EITHER THE CITY OF HOPEWELL OR SUSSEX SERVICE AUTHORITY.
WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE ALL THAT LINED UP FOR MARCH.
IF THE APRIL DEADLINE IS HELD, AND THEY DO ALLOW US A SIMPLER AGREEMENT, THEN WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT AGREEMENT TO YOU HOPEFULLY ON THE MARCH 25 MEETING AT THE LATEST FOR YOU TO APPROVE, SO WE CAN GET THAT EXECUTED BEFORE APRIL 1ST.
>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> DOES ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, MR. HOLCOMB?
>> MR. HOLCOMB. THERE'S TWO MGD GOING TO HOPEWELL, BASED ON WHETHER THEY'RE ADDING ON LIMITS, AND IT LOOKS IT'S SKETCHY AS FAR AS WHETHER THEY COULD BE IN OR OUT.
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE OTHER BUSINESSES ALREADY IN HOPEWELL OR IF HOPEWELL DECIDE IT TAKES ON A NEW BUSINESS? IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY FOR PRINCE GEORGE OR DETECTIVE INVESTMENT, IF WE WERE TO TRY TO DO THAT?
>> I'VE TALKED WITH MS. ERARD ABOUT THIS TOPIC, AND I'LL LET HER RESPOND TO THAT.
>> MR. WEBB, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE HOPEWELL CITY ATTORNEY TO HAVE A JOINT CONVERSATION AND CONSENSUS ABOUT THIS TOPIC, BUT THE SHORT VERSION IS THAT DEVELOPMENT
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OF THE HOPEWELL PLANT AND THE ORIGINATION OF IT IS UNUSUAL.IT'S NOT LIKE ANY I'VE EVER SEEN.
THE PERTINENT DOCUMENTS ARE NOT 100% CLEAR, IN MY OPINION.
I THINK BEFORE I COULD PROVIDE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL FOR LITIGATION MIGHT BE.
I WOULD WANT TO REACH A CONSENSUS WITH THE HOPEWELL CITY ATTORNEY.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER.
>> I'M ONLY ASKING FOR THIS REASON, MR. HOLCOMB.
YEARS PAST, YOU CAN HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL SPILL, ANYWAY, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF GALLONS THAT YOU SPILL AND HOW MUCH FLOWS BEHIND IT, AND YOU MENTIONED INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL BEING MIXED AT THE FINAL PROCESS.
YOU HAVE TO CONTAIN IT SOMEWHERE.
WE'VE HAD SPILLS IN THE PAST IN MY TENURE, WHERE WE'VE HAD TO SHUT THE PLANT DOWN, CUT THE FLOWS OFF BECAUSE WE COULDN'T KEEP RUNNING.
THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY DRASTIC IMPACT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF HOPEWELL, IF THAT HAPPENED. I WOULD THANK.
>> FAY WELL COULD BE. AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO TRUST THEM AT THIS POINT, AS FAR AS THE CAPACITY OF THE PLANT FROM ALLOCATION STANDPOINT IS, I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
BUT THE CAPACITY, THEY HAVE 50 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF CAPACITY.
THE NEW DESIGN OF THE PLANT THAT WAS INSTALLED BACK I BELIEVE IN 2017, INCREASE THE DOMESTIC CAPACITY, I BELIEVE FROM EIGHT TO ROUGHLY 14.7 MGD.
RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ONLY USING NINE.
THE DOMESTIC TREATMENT SIDE HAS CAPACITY.
I BELIEVE, MR. GASTON, THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IS HERE, TOO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM AS WELL.
>> NOW, I JUST WONDER BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE PLANTS ARE CHEMICAL PLANTS.
YOU HOPE FOR THE BEST, BUT SOMETIMES THERE ARE HICCUPS.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO WORK WITH BOTH PLANS, MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I THINK WE DON'T LET GO OF SUSSEX BECAUSE WE CAN SEND OUR, HOW DON'T I WANT TO SAY THIS? COMMERCIAL, THAT WAY.
THE BUSINESS PARKS RIGHT THERE ON 460 PUMP IT DOWN THAT WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD TAKE IT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC.
WE REALLY COULDN'T SEND THINGS FROM THE PLANTS OVER THERE IF WE'RE DOING DOMESTIC, CORRECT?
>> I'M SURE YOU COULD. THE ISSUE I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE AND IT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DO SO, BUT MY GOAL WAS TO FIND ONE LOCATION TO INVEST THE CAPITAL FUND.
YOU'RE TALKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT TO RUN JUST THE FORCE ME FROM ONE LOCATION.
IF YOU'RE DOING TWO LOCATIONS, YOU'RE DOUBLING THAT INVESTMENT, AND THAT IMPACTS THE REPAIRS.
>> WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GROWTH. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT TO SECURE THE SEWER, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY DOING A REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP WITH HOPEWELL OR ANYTHING? HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED AT ALL TO GROW THEIR PLANT, TO HANDLE MORE? OR WE'RE NOT THERE YET?
>> HOPEWELL IS A PARTNERSHIP OF SORTS.
THEY'RE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PRIVATE WATER COMPANIES.
IT IS ALL UNDER THE HOPEWELL CITY COUNCIL, BUT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE AGREEMENT FROM 1995 THAT SETS OUT CERTAIN RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
>> WHEN'S THAT AGREEMENT EXPIRE?
>> IT JUST RENEWED BECAUSE IT HAS A TERMINATION CLAUSE OF 180 DAYS, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JANUARY 1ST.
I THINK IT'S UP FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. AS OF JULY 1?
>> GOT YOU. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. MS. WAYMACK?
>> I'M GOING TO HOLD MINE. I SEE WE HAVE THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
I'D ASK HIM IF THERE'S SOMETHING.
I DON'T THINK HE CAME UP THERE JUST TO STAND NEXT TO YOU, MR. HOLCOMB.
>> ACTUALLY, MY COHORT, MS. PUDLO ASKED ME TO COME UP.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RATE STUDY AND WHAT THE CITY OF HOPEWELL WATER RENEWAL CAN ACTUALLY ABSORB, IF YOU WILL.
NO TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT [LAUGHTER].
>> COME ON. JUST TO CALL THE FUN OUT OF IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TSA.
>> [OVERLAPPING] WHAT DOES TSA STAND FOR?
>> BUT I CAN GIVE YOU SOME ADMINISTRATIVE ANSWERS.
ONE IS THE WATER RENEWAL COMMISSION.
IT'S BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 1995, AND THE AGREEMENT EXPIRED,
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BUT IT'S BEEN ON AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THAT BECAUSE IT EXPIRES COME JULY OF THIS YEAR.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS BEEN ON STAFF FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS, AND HE'S GOT A LOT TO DO.
THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY, BUT HE HAS OTHER PRIORITIES, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
IN REGARDS TO THE FLOW, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, FROM MY DIRECTOR, WE ARE CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING TWO MILLION GALLONS RELATIVELY IMMEDIATELY WITH SOME MINOR UPGRADES, NOT THE MAJOR FIVE MILLION GALLONS OF UPGRADES, BUT THE TWO MILLION WE CAN ACCEPT THAT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, WITHIN REASON.
IN REGARDS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
MY DIRECTOR IS OUT OF TOWN AND OUR CONSULTANT ARE OUT OF TOWN.
AT OUR NEXT MEETING, THERE WILL BE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS AND THEN THAT LAST LINE IN THE LETTER THAT DEALS WITH APPROVAL.
THE PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE BY THE DIRECTOR ALONG WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND THEN OUR CITY COUNCIL WILL, YAY OR NAY, THE AGREEMENT, AND THEN WE WOULD MEET YOUR APRIL 1ST DEADLINE.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US IS, MAKING SURE THE COMMUNICATION AND THE FLOW OF.
>> [OVERLAPPING] DEFINITELY. WE'RE AWARE OF THAT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I'M HERE TO COME AND SUPPORT THIS, BECAUSE WE'D LOVE TO HELP AND DO THE REGIONAL SITUATION.
WE ALSO NEED UPGRADE TO THE PLAN AS WELL.
THE PLAN IS ALMOST 60-YEARS-OLD.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT NEEDS SOME WORK TO BE DONE.
INFUSION OF CAST ALONG WITH OUR OWN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WOULD HELP MAKE THAT BETTER.
>> DOES ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY NEW QUESTIONS THEY WANT? GO AHEAD, MR. WEBB.
>> DID I READ MISREAD THE REPORT OR MAY HAVE READ SOMETHING ELSE.
IN ORDER FOR YOU TO INCREASE CAPACITY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE WITH UPGRADES, NOT THROUGH INCREASING FOOTPRINT?
>> CORRECT. THE UPGRADES FOR THE TWO MILLION GALLONS, THOSE ARE MINOR UPGRADES FOR A FIVE MILLION DOLLARS GALLON FLOW, WHICH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WON'T BE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OR 3-5.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR GROWTH PROJECTIONS ARE, BUT IMMEDIATELY WE CAN ACCEPT TWO.
IF YOU WANT TO GO TO FIVE, THERE WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADE TO THE PLANT THAT WILL HAVE TO BE NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> YOU DO HAVE ROOM TO EXPAND OR?
>> NO, WE DO. IT'S JUST THAT IT'S GOING TO COST.
WE HAVE THE LAND, WE HAVE THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.
IT'S JUST THAT IT'S GOING TO COST.
BUT FOR THE APRIL 1ST DEADLINE SITUATION REGARDING THE TWO MILLION GALLONS OF FLOW, THE CITY OF HOPEWELL WITH MINOR UPGRADES, CAN ACCEPT THE FLOW FROM PRINCE GEORGE.
> THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.
>> [BACKGROUND] I APOLOGIZE. JAMES GASTON III.
I'M DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF HOPEWELL.
>> WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU FOR COMING HERE FOR THE MEETING.
>> TO SHARE INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR.
>> NOT A PROBLEM. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MS. PUDLO, KNOWS HOW TO REACH ME.
>> MR. HOLCOMB, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY DECISIONS FROM US TONIGHT.
THIS WAS JUST [OVERLAPPING] A REPORT.
>> ONCE IT'S APPROVED, YOU WILL INFORM MS. PUDLO APPROVED BY OUR CITY COUNCIL, I'LL INFORM MS. PUDLO.
>> WELL, YOU COULD JUST COME BACK AND TELL US.
>> THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN INVITATION FROM PUDLO. [LAUGHTER]
>> THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN DO FOR YOU?
>> NO, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> [OVERLAPPING] YOU TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
[G. Public Hearings]
TONIGHT, WE HAVE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, SC24-11.IT'S A REQUEST TO PERMIT A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITHIN A B-1 GENERAL BUSINESS ONE DISTRICT, I BELIEVE.
>> GOOD EVENING. MR. CHAIRMAN BROWN, VICE-CHAIRMAN WAYMACK, AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
TONIGHT, I'M PRESENTING SPECIAL EXCEPTION SC24-11.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO PERMIT A PRIVATE SCHOOL WITHIN A B-1 GENERAL BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT PURSUANT TO SECTION 90-393(32).
THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW A VOCATIONAL TRAINING ACADEMY CAMPUS WITH A DORMITORY, AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 6.56 ACRES IN SIZE.
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IT'S LOCATED AT 16905 PARKDALE ROAD, IDENTIFIED AS THAT TAX MAP NUMBER, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.THE APPLICANT IS LAWRENCE ELLIS WILLIAMS, CONSULTING LLC, AND PROPERTY OWNERS, STEVE PARSON OF SP12 PROPERTIES LLC.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION MAP.
IT'S RIGHT BY THE INTERSECTION OF I-95 IN COURTLAND ROAD, ADJACENT TO THE BEXLEY MOBILE HOME PARK.
HERE YOU CAN SEE A BIT MORE ZOOMED IN SATELLITE VIEW.
HERE'S THE ZONING MAP WHICH SHOWS THAT IT'S ZONED B-1, AND SURROUNDING ZONING IS ALSO B-1, AS WELL AS R-A, RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH INDICATES THE PROPERTY AND ITS SURROUNDINGS ARE COMMERCIAL, AND THEN A BIT MORE SOUTH OF THAT IS AGRICULTURE.
AGAIN, THE REQUESTED LAND USE IS A PRIVATE SCHOOL FOR A VOCATIONAL TRAINING ACADEMY CAMPUS WITH A DORMITORY PURSUANT TO SECTION 90-393(32).
SOME OF THE KEY DETAILS THERE IS THAT THERE WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF 50 DUAL OCCUPANCY DORMITORY ROOMS, AND THEN FOUR 12-WEEK SEMESTER SESSIONS ANNUALLY.
THEN A MAXIMUM STUDENT BODY OF 150 STUDENTS WITH 100 RESIDING ON CAMPUS, AND THEN 50 COMMUTING TO CAMPUS.
HERE WE CAN SEE THE LAYOUT AND CONCEPTUAL MAP, IN THE CENTER THAT GRITTED LOOKING RECTANGLE, THAT WOULD BE A NEWLY PROPOSED TECH SHOP BUILDING.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROPOSAL WAS APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST, THE PRIVATE SCHOOL USE SHALL BE DEFINED AS A VOCATIONAL TRAINING ACADEMY CAMPUS WITH OR WITHOUT DORMITORIES, PRIMARILY SUPPORTED BY PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS, PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, FOUNDATIONS OR GRANTS.
THERE SHALL BE A MAXIMUM OF 50 DORMITORY ROOMS, HOUSING WITH NO MORE THAN TWO STUDENTS PER ROOM.
MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT SHALL NOT EXCEED 150 STUDENTS AT ONE TIME, INCLUDING STUDENTS LODGING ONSITE AND OFFSITE.
THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN ALL REQUIRED LOCAL AND STATE LICENSES PER ACQUIRED BY LAW.
SPECIAL EXCEPTION SHALL BECOME NULL AND VOID IF NO BUSINESS LICENSE IS OBTAINED WITHIN 36 MONTHS OF THE APPROVAL.
IF THE REQUESTED USE OF THE PREMISES IS ABANDONED FOR A PERIOD OF 24 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, THEN THE EXCEPTION SHALL BECOME NULL AND VOID, AND THE EXCEPTION MAY BE REVOKED BY THE BOARD FOR FAILURE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER OR TENANT TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS OR ANY STATE LOCAL OR FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED.
THIS PROPOSAL RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A 7-0 VOTE FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 23RD.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS ADVERTISED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE CODE, AND THERE WERE NO COMMENTS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE HEARING.
NEXT, WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INVITE HIM UP TO SPEAK ABOUT HIS PROPOSAL.
>> BEFORE WE ASK THE BOARD FOR ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP OR A REPRESENTATIVE.
IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANT TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD, THEN THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN ASK THEIR QUESTIONS BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MADAM VICE CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, MS. EL-ARAR.
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MY NAME IS CHRIS WINSLOW, AND I REPRESENT NEXT LEVEL CAREER DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY IN THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION REQUEST.I DID PREPARE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU AND PROVIDED COPIES TO EACH OF YOU PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS AND [NOISE] OPERATE THIS CLICKER CORRECTLY.
THIS IS A 16905 PARKDALE ROAD.
CURRENTLY, THIS IS A VACANT MOTEL.
AS APPROXIMATELY 6.5 ACRES, IT IS GENERAL BUSINESS ZONED.
AS WAS MENTIONED, THE AREAS AROUND THIS, REALLY THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT TO THE SOUTH IS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR.
THE REST ARE VACANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES PRETTY MUCH ALL AROUND IT.
THE MISSION OF NEXT LEVEL CAREER DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY IS TO PROVIDE A SUPERIOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING ACADEMIC ENVIRONMENT TO STUDENTS FOR IN-DEMAND CAREERS.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
THIS IS ABOUT TRAINING AND EDUCATING ADULTS TO ENTER THE WORKFORCE.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT WORKFORCE ENTRY POSITIONS INTO POSITIONS THAT YOU COULD THINK OF LIKE AUTOMOTIVE OR CULINARY, THESE TYPES OF POSITIONS TO GET PEOPLE THE SKILLS THAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION TRIES TO DO.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE USES THERE, CHILDCARE, THAT I DIDN'T MENTION, GROUNDSKEEPING, INDUSTRIAL TRUCK OPERATION, LOGISTICS.
YOU HAVE THE HARD SKILLS, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE SOFT SKILLS AS WELL, BEING PROFESSIONAL, ANSWERING EMAILS, HOW TO CONDUCT YOURSELF AT PERHAPS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, AND OFFERING THAT SIDE OF DEFENSE, TOO.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU AS A CAMPUS, IF YOU WILL, AN INSTITUTION, THAT OFFERS A CAFETERIA, THAT OFFERS RESIDENTIAL HOUSING IS BECAUSE STUDIES HAVE STATISTICALLY SHOWN THAT YOU HAVE A LOT MORE SUCCESS WITH PEOPLE WHEN YOU HAVE THEM FACE TO FACE FOR THREE MONTHS AT A TIME AT SEMESTERS, AND GETTING THEM THEIR EDUCATION, GETTING THEM THEIR CERTIFICATION, AND HOPEFULLY, GETTING THEM INTO THE WORKFORCE.
THIS SCHOOL WILL ALSO OFFER BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT, GED PREPARATION, AND ACADEMIC COUNSELING.
AS WAS STATED BY STAFF, FOUR QUARTERLY SEMESTERS A YEAR.
IT'S TO BE FUNDED THROUGH TUITION, 501C3S, FOUNDATIONS, CHURCHES, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS READY TO FUND RIGHT NOW.
WE INTEND TO OFFER MEAL PLANS, AND THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE TUITION PACKAGE THAT WE WILL OFFER FOR PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS.
REALLY THIS IS ABOUT LOCAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES, TRYING TO GET APPRENTICESHIPS AND INTERNSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND REALLY CONNECT LOCALLY TO BE A BENEFIT TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
THERE IS, AS WAS STATED, A PLANNED WORKSHOP FOR INSTRUCTION, WHICH, OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE NORMAL ROUTINE ZONING AND APPLICATION AND PERMIT PROCESSES THROUGH THE COUNTY.
BUT BENEFITS TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, WE THINK IT'S A LOT.
PRIMARILY, IT DEALS WITH FILLING THE JOB MARKET GAPS, NOT ONLY HERE LOCALLY, BUT REGIONALLY, AND REDUCING UNEMPLOYMENT.
HELPING PEOPLE WHO ARE ADULTS GET INTO THOSE ENTRY-LEVEL JOBS.
[NOISE] IN ADDITION, WE DO THINK THERE WILL BE AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY THROUGH JOB CREATION AND ASSISTING LOCAL BUSINESSES WITH IT FINDING THE TALENT THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR BUSINESSES ARE DOING WHAT THEY WANT THEM TO DO, IF IT'S GROWTH OR SUSTAINING, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
IN ADDITION, THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT DOLLARS INTO THIS PROPERTY THAT WE THINK WILL INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT AND BE A BOON TO THE AREA.
THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS THAT WERE NOTED BY STAFF ARE ALL ACCEPTED, AND WE THINK WE FIND THOSE TO BE REASONABLE, AND THE APPLICANT ACCEPTS ALL OF THEM.
WE HAVE DORMITORIES, CAFETERIA,
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ACADEMIC SERVICES, AND A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL.WE DO BELIEVE IT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING ZONING, COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
WE DO ACCEPT ALL THE CONDITIONS AS STATED, AND WE WOULD I GUESS PAUSE THERE, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU.
>> HAS ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR STAFF?
>> OKAY. [NOISE] WE'RE GOOD FOR RIGHT NOW.
WE MAY HAVE SOME AFTER WE COME OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AT THIS TIME, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION 24-11.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO COME FORWARD.
YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD STEP FORWARD.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
THEN YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR TIME TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD REGARDING THIS EXCEPTION.
I SEE SOMEONE IS AT THE MIC ALREADY.
IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU, [OVERLAPPING] MR. BROWN.
>> AS WELL AS ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.
MY MOM WAS A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF PRINCE GEORGE.
MY ADDRESS IS 4105 MOUNT SINAI ROAD.
I'VE BEEN HERE MORE THAN HALF MY LIFE AT PRINCE GEORGE.
I WORKED AT, USED TO BE FORT LEE, BUT NOW IT'S [OVERLAPPING] FORT GREG ADAMS. I RETIRED. BUT I'M ALSO HERE JUST TO SUPPORT AND TELL YOU THAT WE NEED MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NOT ONLY THE YOUTH, THE OLDER PEOPLE, AS YOU KNOW, THE PUSHING EDUCATION, QUALITY EDUCATION.
WE WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
I'M ALL ABOUT THAT THROUGH MY CHURCH, AS WELL AS WITH MY KIDS IN COLLEGE AND MARRIED AND FINISHED, I SUPPORT ANYTHING WITH EDUCATION TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
I ALSO LIKE TO SAY THIS WILL ENHANCE SKILLS AND ALSO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST THINK THAT IT WILL HAVE A GOOD FULL IMPACT ON THE AREA.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA VERY WELL.
DOWN THE ROAD FROM IT IS MY FAVORITE SHOPPING GROCERY.
IT'S NOT REALLY A GROCERY STORE, BUT IT'S A FOOD.
WE GET OUR VEGETABLES FROM ADAMS ACRES, AND IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM THERE.
I JUST SUPPORT GROWING OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN HERE. I LOVE THIS AREA AND ANYTHING THAT COULD SPAN AND HELP WITH THE AREA.
I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY A PART TO COME OUT AND JUST HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.
ANYTHING I CAN HELP OR DO TO MAKE THIS THING GROW AND MAKE IT A POSITIVE INFLUENCE FOR THE COMMUNITY, I STAND FOR IT.
>> RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS FORT GREG ADAMS. [OVERLAPPING] I'M FORT LEE PERSON. YOU KNOW THAT?
>> WE KNOW WHERE YOU COME FROM.
>> ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING?
I LIVE IN DISPUTANTA 9110, GOLF COURSE ROAD.
WE'RE IN SCHOOL TOGETHER. [LAUGHTER].
>> BUT I SUPPORT THIS VOTEX CENTER OR PRIVATE SCHOOL.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
ANYTIME YOU TRY TO EDUCATE SOMEONE OR HELP THEM IN THEIR LIFESTYLE, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT.
I DO HAVE A TRADE, AND I KNOW ONCE YOU GET A TRADE, YOU CAN GO AND DO MOST OF ANYTHING WITH YOUR HANDS OR WITH YOUR MIND, AS FAR AS CARPENTRY TRADE OR PLUMBING.
FROM BEING A PLUMBER BY TRADE, A LOT OF OTHER STUFF COMING IN WITH IT AS FAR AS LEARNING HOW TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE SKILL SET.
BUT I DO SUPPORT IT, AND I PRAY THAT IT GO THROUGH, AMEN.
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ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME? MISS NORT, DID YOU HAVE ANYONE THAT HAD SIGNED UP WITH YOU?>> I SERVE WITH THE CHAIR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WOULD PROBABLY THINK IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD COME UP, BUT I STILL NEED TO ASK.
SEEING NO ONE ELSE COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS TOPIC AT THIS TIME AND RETURN THE MATTER BACK TO THE BOARD.
NOW, BOARD MEMBERS, I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS.
BUT IF ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE ANYTHING THEY LIKE TO BRING UP, DISCUSS, ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS ON AT THIS TIME? MR. WEBB, PLEASE.
>> YES, SIR. NOT THAT THIS IS NOT NEEDED.
I'VE PREACHED THIS FOR YEARS, AS FAR AS GIVING PEOPLE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OTHER THAN TRYING TO GET A DEGREE.
>> I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THIS IS IN A COMMERCIAL AREA.
THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, AND THERE IS LIMITED RESOURCES THERE, ESPECIALLY ON WATERSIDE [OVERLAPPING] IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> I GUESS THAT'D BE MY CONCERN.
>> YES, SIR. I NOTE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT, VIDA DID LOOK AT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THE PROPERTY.
WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE'LL BE ANY MORE PEOPLE ON THAT PROPERTY THAN WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IF YOU HAD A FAIRLY FULL MOTEL ON UNDER ITS ORIGINAL USE.
I THINK, AT LEAST MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THAT THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN BE ON CAMPUS AT ANY ONE TIME.
THAT IT BE LIMITED TO THAT NUMBER TO AVOID MORE TRAFFIC THAN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD ALLOW UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE FELT THAT OPERATIONALLY, THE NUMBER WORKED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> MR. COX. RELATED TO TRAFFIC.
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE TRANSIENT THAT WILL COME IN THE MORNING TO SCHOOL, GO HOME, OR IS IT EVERYBODY GOING TO BE IN THE DORMS THAT ATTEND SCHOOL?
>> THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THE CONDITIONS TO THE APPLICATION ALLOW US TO HAVE 100 PEOPLE THERE ON SITE OVERNIGHT.
WE HAVE A MAX CAPACITY OF 150 IN TERMS OF STUDENT BODY SIZE.
THERE COULD BE, IN TERMS OF TRIPS, 50 TRIPS IN THE MORNING AND 50 TRIPS IN THE AFTERNOON INTO THAT AREA.
>> ARE THEY GOING TO BE INDIVIDUALS DRIVING CARS? IS IT GOING TO BE A BUS?
>> NO, SIR. IT'S INDIVIDUAL DRIVING CARS.
THERE MAY BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RIDESHARE, AND WE HAVE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH THEIR INDIVIDUAL SITUATIONS TO GET TRANSPORTATION SOMETIMES.
BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT'S PLANNED AS INDIVIDUAL TRIPS TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THEN WE WILL TRY TO GET PEOPLE RIDES THROUGH SERVICES IF WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE AFTER HERE.
WE'RE AFTER PEOPLE TO TRY TO COME, STAY THREE MONTHS, GET THEIR CERTIFICATION, AND GET INTO THE WORKFORCE.
>> MY OTHER CONCERN IS AFTER HOURS.
WILL THEY BE ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE SITE? MY CONCERN IS AND I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU, ROUTE 35, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE END OF PARKDALE, IS A VERY BUSY ROAD.
WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH PEOPLE WALKING ALONG THAT ROAD.
IT'S A BAD INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE BESIDE THE GAS STATION.
I'M CURIOUS WILL WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT MAYBE WILL WALK UP TO GO TO THE GAS STATION TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE? OR IS EVERYTHING GOING TO BE HOUSED AND THEY STAY ON THAT FACILITY?
>> WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, OPERATIONALLY, THE INSTITUTION WILL ASK PEOPLE TO STAY, BUT WE CAN'T KEEP PEOPLE.
THEY'RE ADULTS. YOU CAN'T DO GOOD SO MUCH, BUT I THINK IT WILL BE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY STAY ON SITE, THAT THEY MIND THE TRAFFIC AND THE LAWS AND BE MINDFUL OF PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THAT TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THERE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THE PARCELS AROUND US.
IF THERE ARE SIDEWALKS, WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE THE SIDEWALKS.
THERE WILL BE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF TO
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FOLLOW THE LAWS AND CERTAINLY ANY CONDITIONS THAT ARE IMPOSED ON OUR SCHOOL.WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THOSE TWO.
WE WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD AND DO A GOOD JOB FOR THE COUNTY.
>> THAT'S ALL I GOT RIGHT NOW.
>> WHAT SIZE FACILITY ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO IN ADDITION FOR YOUR WOOD SHOP OR YOUR CAR SHOP OR WHAT HAVE YOU?
>> MY UNDERSTANDING, SUPERVISOR PUGH, IS THAT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 4,000 AND 7,000 SQUARE FOOT SHOP.
I THINK CONCEPTUALLY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE MORE CLARITY AS RELATES TO CLASS SIZE, AVAILABILITY OF INSTRUCTORS, AND WHAT THE SCHOOL WILL NEED LONG-TERM IN TERMS OF OFFERINGS.
THAT NUMBER COULD BE A LITTLE BIT IN FLUX.
>> WHAT'S YOUR TIME FRAME ON CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUILDING IF THIS PASSES?
>> SIR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COULD BE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
I THINK THE SCHOOL WOULD LIKE TO GET SETTLED IN FIRST AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO AND HOW BIG TO BUILD IT AND GET THOSE PLANS GOING.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> CAN YOU DO ALL OF THE CLASSES THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING NOW WITHOUT THE SHOP, OR IS THAT WHAT CLASSES DOES THAT AFFECT?
>> I THINK THE SHOP WOULD AFFECT SOME OF THE TRADE CLASSES IN TERMS OF IT COULD AFFECT THE PLUMBER CERTIFICATION.
IT COULD AFFECT SOME OF THE MECHANICAL OR SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL TRUCK OPERATION.
IT COULD AFFECT OF SOME OF THOSE OFFERINGS.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY STILL COULDN'T BE OFFERED.
IT'S JUST THAT WE'D WANT IT TO BE IN AN IDEAL SETTING WHERE WE HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT AND STORAGE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A CLASSROOM INSIDE THAT SPACE.
>> THAT'S ALL I GOT RIGHT NOW.
>> DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE SECURITY?
>> AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT AWARE OF A PLAN TO HAVE SECURITY.
HOWEVER, WE'RE OPEN TO DOING THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED.
HOPEFULLY, IT'S NOT NEEDED, BUT IF IT'S NEEDED, WE MAY NEED TO DO THAT.
I KNOW WE WILL HAVE CONTRACTORS ON SITE, DEALING WITH MAINTENANCE AND OTHER THINGS.
THIS COULD VERY WELL BE IN THAT BUDGET.
WE WILL HAVE SECURITY EQUIPMENT.
I SUSPECT WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING WHEN I'M JUST NOT FULLY APPRISED OF THAT DETAIL.
I'M NOT AGAINST THE VOCATIONAL SKILLS TYPE OF THING.
I SIT AS A CHAIRMAN ON THE CRATER WORKFORCE BOARD.
I'D BE SILLY TO SIT HERE AND SAY I'M AGAINST THAT.
BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT AREA, KNOWING THAT THERE'S THE MOBILE HOME PLACE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
IN SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES, OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE THERE.
PART OF THE CONCERN, I THINK WOULD BE ONE OF THEM WHERE MR. COX MENTIONED BECAUSE NOT ONLY RIGHT THERE AT 35, THERE IS $1 GENERAL DOWN THE ROAD.
I COULD SEE PEOPLE WANTING TO WALK AND GO DOWN TO THE DOLLAR GENERAL.
ROUTE 35 IS NOT THE SAFEST PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRACTOR TRAILER TRAFFIC.
THAT FOR ME, WOULD BE A CONCERN.
PEOPLE LEAVING THE FACILITY AND JUST ROAMING AROUND THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S A LOT OF CHILDREN THAT ARE IN THAT MOBILE HOME PARK AND ELDERLY PEOPLE.
I THINK TO MISS' WAYMACK CONCERN OF SECURITY AND NOT THAT WE'RE SAYING YOU HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IN THE PAST.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION DIRECTED TO STAFF, AND YOU CAN STAY THERE TOO.
I KNOW YOU SAY THAT THIS IS COMPATIBLE OR IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S COMMERCIAL.
THAT'S FOR ME, A VERY LOOSE STATEMENT BECAUSE
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I SEE THIS BUSINESS AS BEING AN INSTITUTIONAL TYPE THING.VERSUS A STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL TYPE BUSINESS LIKE A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT IS MORE BECAUSE OF THE VOCATIONAL TRAINING ASPECT OF IT, IT'S MORE OF AN INSTITUTIONAL TYPE THING.
HELP ME FOR A MINUTE TO PLEASE UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
>> OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION LANDED ON THAT BEING COMPATIBLE BECAUSE OF THE CLIENTELE VOLUME THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED FROM A INSTITUTIONAL USE LIKE THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO A COMMERCIAL USE.
THAT'S WHAT OUR FINDINGS WERE.
THAT'S JUST THAT'S HOW WE SAW THAT IT FIT UNDER DURING OUR REVIEW.
>> IT'S MORE OF THE STAFF'S INTERPRETATION OF THAT COMMERCIAL AND THIS USE.
BECAUSE TO ME, IF IT'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL AND THIS IS FITS COMMERCIAL, THEN WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
AM I MISGUIDED HERE? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
THE WHOLE SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROCESS IS FOR US TO GRANT APPROVAL ON SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE ZONING IN THAT AREA OR FOR THAT PROPERTY ALLOWS THE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT ZONING ALLOWS.
>> SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY ARE MOSTLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
IT'S NOT PERMITTED IN B1, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE YOUR JOB DIFFICULT.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU.
THESE ARE THE HARD QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO ASK SO THAT WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> THANK YOU. BACK TO THE APPLICANT.
LIKE I SAID, MY CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED, AS FAR AS I THINK IN THE STAFF REPORT, AS MR. WEBB ALLUDED TO, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE RESOURCES OF WATER AND STUFF IN THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ALLEVIATED BASED ON JUST WHERE WE ARE WITH THE WATER AND STUFF IN THAT AREA.
>> WOULD YOU HAVE EMERGENCY SERVICES AVAILABLE?
>> THERE ARE CERTAIN REGULATIONS THAT THIS SCHOOL HAS TO MEET TO OPERATE UNDER THE ACCREDITATION IT SEEKS.
>> WHAT ACCREDITATION IS THAT?
>> YOU WOULD ASKED ME THE ONE QUESTION.
>> I DON'T WANT TO TELL HIM THE WRONG NAME.
THERE WILL BE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE NAME.
QUITE NATURALLY, THINGS ARE CONTINGENT UPON GETTING THROUGH THIS, BUT THERE WILL BE TWO ACTUAL NATIONAL ACCREDITATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IT WILL BE NATIONALLY ACCREDITED.
THERE IS A THREE YEAR PROCESS.
YOU HAVE TO BE OPERATING FOR THREE YEARS PRIOR TO APPLYING FOR ACCREDITATION.
THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL ENDEAVOR.
>> COULD YOU PULL THE MIC LITTLE.
>> I'M SORRY. BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE WASTEWATER.
THE ACTUAL PROPERTY HAS ITS OWN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND IT'S ON OWN WELLS ON SITE.
THE THING IS THAT WHEN THE GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, I ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
WE HAVE OUR OWN WATER, WELL WATER, AND WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN SEWAGE.
THERE'S A ACTUAL ENGINEER CONSULTANT THAT RUNS THE PLANT.
THERE ARE RESIDENT ADVISORS TO BE THERE.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SECURITY, YES, THERE WOULD BE SECURITY THERE.
THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEY'RE STUDENTS.
THE PLAN IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE COLLABORATE WITH THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL.
ALSO, OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE AREA.
EVERYBODY DOESN'T WANT TO GO TO ACTUAL COLLEGE.
THAT IS THE SENSE OF THIS IS THAT EVERYBODY DESERVES A LIVING.
EVEN TODAY, THERE ARE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS OUT OF WORK, AND TO EMPOWER INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, BUT DESIRE TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST A MINIMUM WAGE JOB.
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THEY NEED SKILLS. THAT'S WHAT THE SCHOOL IS ABOUT.IT'S EVERY BIT OF A LEGITIMATE A SCHOOL.
NEXT LEVEL, TALK ABOUT NEXT LEVEL, WHY IT'S CALLED NEXT LEVEL.
NEXT LEVEL CAREER DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY.
PART OF THE MAIN BUILDING, WE HAVE A CHAPTER HOUSE.
ID WAS EVERYTHING WAS BIRTH OUT OF THE CHAPTER.
ALPHA IS A NATIONAL FRATERNITY.
THE VISION IS THAT THIS WILL BE WE HAVE A CORE PROGRAM COLLEGE TO CAREER.
THE VISION IS A BIGGER THAN JUST PRINCE GEORGE.
QUITE NATURALLY, IT'S BASED IN PRINCE GEORGE.
HOWEVER, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NATIONAL PROGRAM.
WE'RE WANTING THIS PROGRAM TO BE SOMETHING THAT OTHER CHAPTERS AND OTHER CITIES AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION WILL MODEL.
WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. EVERYWHERE HAS A GENESIS, AND WE'RE STARTING RIGHT HERE.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF ACTUALLY OWNING THE PROPERTY AND DOING SOMETHING WITH IT.
I'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN MY OWN BUSINESS ENDEAVORS.
BUT WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.
I DIDN'T JUST YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE.
ACTUALLY, I BOUGHT AN INVESTMENT.
I HAVE A JOB AND THE JOB IS EMPOWERING PEOPLE'S LIVES.
THIS IS A BIGGER THAN JUST A PRINCE GEORGE THING.
PEOPLE NEED A CAREER, NEED JOBS AND INCOME.
EVERYTHING'S BASED OFF INCOME.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB WITH THIS.
THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH THE MOBILE HOME AND THE BUSINESSES DOWN THE STREET.
INVITE THEM TO, WE HAVE A BOARD TO OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO POLICE OUR WHOLE AREA AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS, I WAS IN COLLEGE AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
I WAS BLESSED ENOUGH TO GO TO COLLEGE, BUT GUESS WHAT, IT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT I COULD WALK DOWN THE STREET AND I WASN'T PERFECT, BUT THE FACT IS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO DOWN THE STREET AND BUY SOME THINGS AND DO SOME THINGS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ADULTS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THEM LIKE ADULTS AND GOOD CITIZENS.
WE'RE GOING TO TEACH THEM TO BE THAT WAY, TOO.
>> WHEN DID YOU BUY THE PROPERTY?
>> I BOUGHT IT, FIVE YEARS AGO.
>> MY CHAPTER HAS BEEN OPERATING OUT OF THE MAIN BUILDING FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS, AND IT WAS DILAPIDATED.
WE GOT A NICE LITTLE RENOVATION TO DO.
WE DID THAT IN THAT BUILDING, AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A 4,500 SQUARE FOOT WORKSHOP AUTOMOTIVE BASE. IT'S GOING TO BE STATE OF THE ART.
>> IS THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY IN YOUR NAME?
>> AND I'M SORRY. TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN?
>> ARE YOU MODELING THIS AFTER A SPECIFIC NATIONAL PROGRAM?
>> WELL, I'VE SEEN THINGS OUT THERE.
QUITE NATURALLY, IT'S NOT JUST MY VISION.
THIS IS A VISION OF INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF THAT WANT TO EMPOWER AND DO.
IT'S PART OF WHAT OUR CHAPTER IS ABOUT.
WE WANT EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER, BUT I WAS BLESSED TO HAVE A LOCATION TO START IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
>> YOU MENTIONED ABOUT COORDINATING WITH THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> ALREADY, THERE'S A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL THAT I WAS VERY THANKFUL TO MEET THAT WAS JUST RETIRED TEACHER FROM PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL.
HE DOESN'T WANT TO WORK A FULL TIME JOB OR ANYTHING, BUT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT, HEY, COME OUT AND HELP US.
HE WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE HERE, AND IT DIDN'T MAKE IT.
BUT THE FACT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH HIM.
I KNOW QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN ADMINISTRATION, DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS ALL AROUND THE AREA, THAT IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
WE'VE DONE PLENTY OF PRESENTATIONS.
THEY HAVE EVEN DONATED MONEY AND EARMARKED MONEY ALREADY FOR THE PROGRAM IN THE AREA.
WELL, IN THE CENTRAL REGION AREA.
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THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST NOW.WE'RE JUST NOW BEING ABLE TO BE A CATALYST ALREADY FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT THE MONEY WE HIT A CRITICAL MASS, OKAY, THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND WE'VE PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO DESIGNING THE LOCATION, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. CREDENTIALED TEACHERS.
THE INSTRUCTORS HAVE CERTIFICATIONS ALREADY.
WHEN THEY LEAVE AND THERE'S FOUR 12 WEEK SEMESTERS, THEY HAVE TO PAY TUITION TO BE THERE.
WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET, PELL GRANT.
QUITE NATURALLY, THE NEXT THING IS WE'RE TALKING LIKE A THREE YEAR, WE HAVE TO OPERATE FOR THREE YEARS TO EVEN APPLY FOR THE ACCREDITATION.
THAT'S A SIGN OF QUALITY. WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA MAYBE THAT LED TO THIS CONCEPT?
>> NO, NOT IN THIS INDUSTRY. NO.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE RICHMOND METRO AREA?
>> I HAVE BUSINESSES IN RICHMOND METRO AREA.
>> I HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH BUSINESS.
NOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, THAT'S NOT THIS.
HONESTLY, I'M ON THE BOARD AT THIS POINT.
I'M NOT THE ACTUAL CATALYST OF THIS.
THIS CAME FROM THE BROTHERS OF NEW LAMB THE CHAPTER OF APHI.
I CAN ONLY REPRESENT MYSELF AT ONE POINT IN TIME.
I'M HERE AS AN ADVOCATE FOR THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS THE CHAPTERS PROJECT..
WE'RE DOING A GRATA GREAT THINGS IN THE AREA, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO BETTER.
OUR GOAL IS TO BE THE PINNACLE OF CHAPTERS OF OUR FRATERNITY AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
>> WOULD YOU GIVE ANY PREFERENCE TO PEOPLE FROM PRINCE GEORGE?
>> THE FACT IS, THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
[NOISE] THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD EMPLOY PRINCE GEORGE INDIVIDUALS, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING OUT THAT DON'T WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
THINK ABOUT WHAT'S AWESOME ABOUT THIS, TO BE IN A UNIQUE POSITION WHERE THERE'S DORMITORIES LIKE THIS. AND IT'S AFFORDABLE.
>> WILL ALCOHOL BE ALLOWED ON THE PREMISES?
>> [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW. HONESTLY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE OF A CERTAIN AGE, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY?
>> WE CAN. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTEN TO.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY ONE WAY, AND WE HAVEN'T GOT TO THAT.
WE DO HAVE AN ACTUAL HANDBOOK WE'VE DESIGNED AND SOME OF THIS STUFF.
WE'RE STILL PLANNING THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE.
QUITE NATURALLY, EVERYTHING IS CONTINGENT UPON US GETTING THROUGH HERE FOR THE NEXT [NOISE] PHASE ON INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY.
>> WHEN WOULD YOU ENVISION THIS OPENING?
>> THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY, SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR.
>> JUST TO MOVE ON. I'LL GET TO YOU IN SECOND.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO YOUR NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR, THE NEW OWNER OF THE MOBILE HOME PARK.
I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, AND HE SEEMS TO SUPPORT THIS AS LONG AS IT OPERATES AS IT'S BEING STATED.
HE DEFINITELY WANTS TO TRY TO ALSO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
I JUST WANT THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A NEW OWNER OF THE MOBILE BEXLEY AS OF NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, SO I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THEM. MR. WEBB.
>> JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE WHEN I MENTIONED LIMITED AVAILABILITY OF WATER, YOU MENTIONED WELL AND SEPTIC.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF WATER FOR FIRE AND EMS, WHICH YOUR CLOSEST EMS OR FIRE IS PROBABLY EIGHT MINUTES TO CARSON, AND THE AMBULANCE COULD BE AS MUCH AS 11 MINUTES.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SPEAKING TO BECAUSE IT ISN'T A RURAL PART OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
>> YES, SIR. I DID SEE THAT IN THE REPORT AS WELL, SIR.
WE WILL WORK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PUT IN ANY PRECAUTIONS OR MEASURES THAT THEY SEE FIT TO TRY TO BRING THE RISK DOWN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPERATION OF THIS FACILITY.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? I THANK YOU BOTH.
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>> BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS SPECIAL EXCEPTION 24-11.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD EITHER ENTERTAIN DEBATE OR ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> LET'S GO TO DEBATE BECAUSE I'M NOT HAPPY WITH EITHER OPTION HERE.
I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE ABOUT SEVEN MORE THINGS IMPLEMENTED, PERSONALLY.
ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, I GUESS, A SCHOOL HANDBOOK TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RULES THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING UNDER.
[NOISE] I'D LIKE TO SEE A COMPLETION DATE [NOISE] ON THE SHOP THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT.
BECAUSE I'M BIG ON PLUMBING, I'M BIG ON TRACTOR TRAILER DRIVE AND ALL THAT.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GREAT THINGS.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY.
I JUST WANT TO SEE A LITTLE MORE TEETH IN THIS ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
>> YOU MEAN THEN THE RESOLUTION?
>> NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE [OVERLAPPING] I'M BEING CLEAR.
>> IF I'M HEARING RIGHT HERE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A STATEMENT OF NEEDING SOME MORE INFORMATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A FEW CHANGES TO THINGS TO PUT A FEW MORE BASIC RESTRICTIONS IN JUST TO ALLOW US TO HAVE SOME MORE MONITORING OVERSIGHT OF SOME THINGS.
I THINK THIS BOARD WE HAVE THE TASK OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AS WELL AS YOU FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
BASED ON THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT I GUESS I'M HEARING A CONSENSUS HERE TO EITHER POSTPONE TO ANOTHER DATE.
>> MY RECOMMENDATION IS POSTPONE IT.
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE, BECAUSE THIS IS FEBRUARY, WE WOULD NEED TIME TO POSITION THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ON, GIVE THEM TIME TO RESPOND, GIVE US TIME TO REVIEW, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL.
THAT GIVES US ABOUT 30 DAYS [NOISE] THROUGH THE WHOLE MONTH OF MARCH TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY BACK AND FORTH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK THAT SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SOME FEELING ON.
SORRY, AM I RIGHT, MS. ARAL? WE WOULD HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE IF WE POSTPONE?
>> I JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO CRAFT THAT IN A MOTION.
>> IS THERE A MOTION TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION 24-11 UNTIL THE FIRST REGULAR BOARD MEETING IN APRIL.
>> IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. PUGH AND SECOND BY MR. COX, THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION 24-11 UNTIL OUR FIRST MEETING, THIS IS THE SECOND TUESDAY IN APRIL, AND THAT'S TO ALLOW US SOME TIME TO PUT TOGETHER OUR THOUGHTS AND THINGS WE WANT SOME ANSWERS TO AND BE ABLE TO GET THAT TO THE APPLICANT AND GET THAT BACK TO THE BOARD OR TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, OR ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> MOTION CARRY. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, WE MOVE INTO OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS,
[H. Order of Business]
AND ORDER OF BUSINESS NUMBER 1 IS A REQUEST FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO SET IN APRIL 23RD,[01:30:02]
06:00 PM DATE FOR THE COUNTY BOARD TO MEET WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP.>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS. THIS EVENING'S REQUEST IS FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO CONSIDER [NOISE] WORK SESSION FOR FUTURE LAND CONCEPTS.
THIS IS PART OF AN UPDATE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR 2045.
IN ADDITION, PART OF THAT WORK SESSION WOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF THE LAST BRIEFING WE DID ON BY-RIGHT USES UNDER CURRENT CODE, SO WE WOULD DO SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS BRIEFING THERE IF THE BOARD CHOSE OR WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT OR INCLUDE.
>> BOARD MEMBERS, BASED ON THIS REQUEST, HOPEFULLY, PEOPLE TOOK A LOOK AT THEIR CALENDARS ALREADY TO SEE THEIR AVAILABILITY FOR THIS DATE.
>> I THINK THIS IS JUST A CONSENSUS.
MS. ARAL, THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO VOTE ON.
>> WE VOTE ON IT. IS THERE A MOTION? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I MAKE A MOTION. WE ACCEPT APRIL THE 23RD AS A COUNTY BOARD MEETING FOR THE BERKELEY GROUP FOR AN UPDATE.
>> IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. PUGH THAT THE BOARD WOULD SET APRIL THE 23RD AT 6:00 PM AS A DATE FOR THIS BOARD TO MEET WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> MOTION CARRY. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ABOUT THE BROADBAND EQUITY, ACCESS, AND DEPLOYMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE BEAD PROGRAM.
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN BROWN.
>> WAYMACK, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE, AND MS. ARAL.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT TONIGHT.
I'LL BE PRESENTING ON OUR COUNTY STRATEGIC GOAL IN REGARDS THE BROADBAND EQUITY, ACCESS, AND DEPLOYMENT PROGRAM THROUGH THE STATE, LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT WERE REQUESTED, AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
[NOISE] IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, THE BOARD PASSED OUR COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN THAT INCLUDED BROADBAND EXPANSION.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS BEING ASKED AT THAT TIME, WHO HAS ACCESS, WHO ARE THE PLAYERS, AND WHAT IS CONSIDERED BROADBAND? THE GOAL IS TO EXPAND BROADBAND TO ALL INTERNET TO CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE COUNTY.
THE LAST UPDATE THAT WAS GIVEN WAS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE ON JANUARY 28TH, BY MS. PUDLO.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE HAD FOUR PREVIOUS PROJECTS, ONE BEING IN 2017.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE COUNTY WAS ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE COMMONWEALTH TO BRIDGE A GAP IN PARTNERING WITH OUR LOCAL COOPERATIVE TO FILL THE HUGE VOID IN REGARDS TO UNSERVED AREAS TO BROADBAND IN THE COUNTY.
IN 2022, WE HAD A SECOND PHASE, AND IN 2022, RURALBAND, WHO IS THE SUBSIDIARY OF PRINCE GEORGE ELECTRIC, THEY RECEIVED FEDERAL FUNDING TO BASICALLY FILL OUT BROADBAND THROUGHOUT THEIR ELECTRICAL COOPERATIVE AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
IN 2024, WE DID SUBMIT FOR VIRGINIA TELECOMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVE GRANT, BUT WE WERE NOT AWARDED TO FILL IN THOSE UNSERVED AREAS THAT RURALBAND COMCAST OR VERIZON WEREN'T IN.
[NOISE] WHAT IS THE BROADBAND EQUITY, ACCESS, AND DEPLOYMENT PROGRAM? THE BACKGROUND, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND INVESTMENT ACT ALLOCATED AROUND 42 BILLION TO PROVIDE BROADBAND PROGRAMS FOR PLANNING, INFRASTRUCTURE DEPLOYMENT, AND BROADBAND ADOPTION PROGRAMS. THERE WAS A FORMULA THAT WAS CREATED THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ALLOCATE TO STATES.
THE PURPOSE WAS TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO STATES AND TERRITORIES FOR THE DISPARITY IN REGARDS TO BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO ADDRESS AFFORDABILITY IN ADOPTION PROGRAMS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR VIRGINIA?
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THE BEAD ALLOCATION IS AROUND $1.48 BILLION, WHICH IS TO CLOSE THE GAPS IN BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO ALLOW OPPORTUNITIES TO INVEST IN BROADBAND AFFORDABILITY WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH.I'D LIKE TO GO OVER A FEW DIFFERENCES BETWEEN BEAD AND THE VIRGINIA TELECOMMUNICATION INITIATIVE.
GRANTS UNDER BEAD ARE MADE DIRECTLY TO BROADBAND PROVIDERS.
THEY'RE NOT MADE DIRECTLY TO THE LOCALITY. THAT'S A DIFFERENCE.
THE APPLICATION UNDER THESE AREAS ARE PREDETERMINED AND NOT DRAWN OUT BY THE LOCALITY.
ELIGIBLE LOCATIONS UNDER BEAD ARE DETERMINED THROUGH A STATE-LEVEL CHALLENGE PROCESS, WHICH JUST CONCLUDED A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THESE LOCATIONS INCLUDE HOMES, BUSINESSES, AND COMMUNITY ANCHORS THAT DO NOT HAVE BROADBAND ACCESS.
[NOISE] ELIGIBLE LOCATIONS MUST BE MAPPED ON THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION'S MAPPING FABRIC.
WHILE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE TRADITIONALLY CONTRIBUTED IN MATCHING FUNDING FOR BODY, THIS IS NOT REQUIRED BY THE BEAD PROGRAM, BUT BROADBAND PROVIDERS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A 25% MATCH.
THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROGRAMS, AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT OF A MATCH FROM THE COUNTY.
[NOISE] THE PRIORITY USE OF THE BEAD FUNDS IS FOR CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENT, AND ACQUISITION OF FACILITIES AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE QUALITY BROADBAND SERVICE, INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE, FILLING IN THOSE MIDDLE MILE AND LAST MILE NETWORKS THAT WE HAVE A LOT WITHIN OUR COUNTY THAT WE FOUND IN 2024, AND MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS AS WELL.
AS YOU CAN SEE, FROM THE RURALBAND MAP, THIS IS A COVERAGE FROM RURALBAND.
CURRENTLY, WE'RE FINDING A LOT OF UNSERVED AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE GREEN AREA, WHICH ARE MAINLY DOMINION ENERGY AREAS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BEAD ELIGIBILITY AREA MAP BASICALLY PORTRAYS THAT.
WE HAVE AROUND 498 ELIGIBLE ADDRESSES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
THE PROGRAM DOES NOT INCLUDE UNITS WITHIN AN ADDRESS.
SAY IF YOU HAD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THAT JUST COUNTS AS ONE.
AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN 2024, ARE VERY SIMILAR TO BEAD AREAS.
>> THE BEAD TIMELINE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE, IS BASICALLY A SNAPSHOT OF THE TIMELINE FOR THE BEAD PROGRAM AND THE STATE FOR THEIR FINAL SUBMITTAL FOR THEIR PROPOSAL.
RIGHT NOW, WHERE BROADBAND PROVIDERS ARE, ARE TO FILL OUT THEIR APPLICATIONS AND REQUESTS FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE JURISDICTIONS THEY ARE TO APPLY FOR.
THIS IS WHY I'M IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO REQUESTS FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM VERIZON AND COMCAST.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE PROVIDERS WILL START THIS PROJECT.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE APPROVAL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND WE DO NOT KNOW THE AREAS THAT THEY ARE TO EXPAND IN.
WHAT ROLE DOES A COUNTY PLAY IN THE BEAD PROGRAM? COUNTIES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO BROADBAND PROVIDERS SUBMITTING APPLICATIONS IN THEIR JURISDICTION UNDER THE BEAD PROGRAM.
LETTERS OF SUPPORT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE IN DETERMINING BROADBAND PROVIDERS THAT RECEIVE AWARDS IN THEIR JURISDICTIONS? IF THE COUNTY PROVIDES A LETTER TO A BROADBAND PROVIDER, THAT PROVIDER RECEIVES 10 POINTS IN THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS.
IF A LETTER SUPPORT IS NOT GRANTED, THE PROVIDER RECEIVES NO POINTS UNDER THAT SCORING CATEGORY.
THE OFFICE OF BROADBAND RECOMMENDS THESE LETTERS OF SUPPORT BE GRANTED BY AN OFFICIAL VOTE FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE JURISDICTIONS.
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IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BROADBAND PROVIDERS TO REQUEST A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY AND TO UPLOAD THAT WITH THEIR APPLICATION.AS I SAID BEFORE, AT THIS TIME, WE'VE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM VERIZON AND COMCAST FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT.
WITH THAT, A RESOLUTION IS WITHIN YOUR BOARD PACKETS TONIGHT, AND WE ASK TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PROVIDE LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO THESE PROVIDERS.
THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT ARE ALSO WITHIN YOUR PACKETS AS WELL.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
DOES ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. JAR BRAY?
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER OR NOT, BUT HOW MANY TIMES HAS VERIZON REQUESTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY?
MY PREDECESSOR HANDLED MOST OF THE FIBER TO THE HOME PROJECTS.
>> MR. JAR BRAY, I CAN ADD THAT VERIZON DOES ASK FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT UNDER THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IN ALL LOCALITIES.
>> FOR 20 YEARS OF PLUS, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FIOS IN THIS COUNTY.
YET NONE OF IT'S COME TO THIS COUNTY.
>> I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEIR MONEY IS GOING WHEN THEY GET IT BECAUSE THE SHORE IS NOT DEVELOPING AREAS THAT ARE DOWN TOWARDS SUSSEX COUNTY LINE.
COMCAST HAS BEAT THEM TO THE RACE AND BEEN DOWN THERE, BUT I WOULDN'T SUPPORT COMCAST EITHER BECAUSE COMCAST IS NOT CHEAP.
COMCAST IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS FOR WHAT THEY CHARGE PEOPLE.
RURALBAND HAS TAKEN OVER, WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE I SAID, DOMINION ENERGY IS NOT WITH RURALBAND, THAT'S THROUGH THE COOPS.
BUT I SEE THIS IS JUST A MONEY GRAB.
THEY LOOK FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT SO THEY CAN GET THE FUNDING, AND WHO KNOWS WHERE THE FUNDING GOES? THERE'S NO COMMITMENT TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
THEY'RE EXPANDING ANYTHING IN PRINCE GEORGE OR DOING ANYTHING FOR THIS COUNTY. THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT.
>> I CAN'T MAKE A COMMENT THERE BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT OR WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
>> CAN WE PUT IN THE RESOLUTION THAT IF WE COMMIT TO THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE US SO MUCH PERCENTAGE? IS THAT OKAY?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT.
>> THIS IS A STATE FEDERAL PROGRAM.
THE STATE TELLS VERIZON OR RURALBAND BEADS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT?
>> THERE ARE ZIP CODES THAT THEY APPLY FOR, AND THEY GO BY ZIP CODES.
IF THEY APPLY FOR THAT ZIP CODE, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY BROADBAND PROVIDERS APPLY, THAT'S HOW THAT'S CHOSEN.
YOU COULD HAVE MULTIPLE PROVIDERS FOR ONE ZIP CODE.
>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IF THE CITIZENS DON'T APPLY, THEN THEY DON'T FARE WELL WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATE FUNDING. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> IF THE BOARD CHOOSES NOT TO PROVIDE A SUPPORT LETTER, THEY DON'T GET THOSE POINTS TOWARDS THEIR APPLICATION TO THE STATE.
>> BUT IT'S ONLY 10 POINTS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.
>> HOW ARE THEY GETTING THE OTHER POINTS?
>> THAT IS ALL DETERMINED BY THE STATE, AND THERE'S A FORMULA THAT THEY USE.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY SENT A NEWS LETTER OUT, HEY, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN THIS, AND THEN THEY GO OFF OF THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. I'M SORRY.
>> BUT I WOULD ASSUME, THOUGH, IF WE DON'T PROVIDE A LETTER OF SUPPORT, ANY OF THOSE ZIP CODES THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT TO OUR RESIDENCE, IF THEY DID GET IT, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SERVICED BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING IT WOULDN'T BE THAT ZIP CODE.
>> IF SAY, FOR INSTANCE, THERE ARE ZIP CODES FOR THESE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE BROADBAND, AND IF WE DON'T PROVIDE A LETTER OF SUPPORT, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT PROVIDER IS STILL SUBMITTING THAT ZIP CODE FOR POTENTIAL SERVICE OR NOT?
>> YES. WE DON'T HAVE A SAY TO TELL THE STATE, NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT PROVIDER.
>> OH, NO, I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT THAT PROVIDER, BUT I MEAN, IF I'M THAT PROVIDER, AND I'M PUTTING IN YOUR ZIP CODE, AND YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE ME A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
>> THEY MAY NOT BE SELECTED BY THE STATE, SO IT ENHANCES POTENTIAL OF IT. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I GOT YOU. BOARD MEMBERS, WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS.
>> OKAY, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND THAT WE WOULD AUTHORIZE OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PROVIDE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR COMCAST AND FOR VERIZON FOR THIS BEAD PROGRAM APPLICATION PROCESS.
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YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?>> THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 3 ON OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SUBMIT A COMPARATIVE PARTNERSHIP GRANT APPLICATION, AND THIS WILL BE FROM DIRECTOR MRS. WOFF FROM THE RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY.
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN BROWN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> MR. STOKE, MR. WEBB. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING.
I'M GOING TO BE GIVING YOU AN OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDING UPDATE.
I WILL BEGIN WITH A RECAP AND TRY TO MAKE IT BRIEF.
I'VE HEARD BLESSED R, THE BRIEF, SO I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS BRIEF.
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PASSED A RESOLUTION IN 2021 TO APPROVE THE VIRGINIA ABATEMENT FUND AND SETTLEMENT ALLOCATION MOU WITH THE VIRGINIA OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN RESPONSE TO THE BIG PHARMA LAWSUIT STEMMING FROM THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC.
AS A RESULT OF THAT ACTION, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS BEEN RECEIVING SETTLEMENT PAYMENTS DIRECTLY FROM OPIOID MANUFACTURERS, DISTRIBUTORS, AND PHARMACIES SINCE 2022, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO THROUGH THE YEAR 2039 WITH THOSE AMOUNTS SLOWLY DECREASING EACH YEAR.
TO DATE, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS RECEIVED $265,780.87 IN DIRECT DISTRIBUTIONS.
RIVERSIDE COMMUNITY CRIMINAL JUSTICE BOARD, WHICH HAS EQUAL REPRESENTATION FROM PRINCE GEORGE SURREY AND HOPEWELL, WAS TASKED WITH DETERMINING POSSIBLE FUND USES FOR THE OPIOID ABATEMENT AND REMEDIATION THAT WOULD ADHERE TO THE GOLD STANDARD.
THE GOLD STANDARD REFERS TO LOCALITIES MEETING THE VIRGINIA OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITIES REQUIREMENTS OF HOW FUNDS ARE USED AND THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF FUND USE.
IN 2023, THIS BOARD AUTHORIZED PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY TO ENTER AN MOU WITH SURREY COUNTY TO POOL RESPECTIVE FUNDS FOR A COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OAA.
AT THAT TIME, HOPEWELL HAD ELECTED NOT TO JOIN THE PARTNERSHIP, SO PRINCE GEORGE AND SURREY PROCEEDED WITHOUT HOPEWELL.
I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS SLIDE.
THE VIRGINIA OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY WEBSITE IS PROVIDED THERE.
IN THAT WEBSITE, YOU CAN FIND A LIST OF APPROVED OPIOID REMEDIATION USES, AS WELL AS THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
THAT LIST IDENTIFIES CORE STRATEGIES THAT REPRESENT PREFERRED USES.
THOSE WOULD BE THINGS LIKE PREVENTION OF OPIOID DISORDER, EDUCATION, TREATMENT, ET CETERA.
IT CONFIRMS THAT FUNDING SHOULD BE USED FOR OPIOID ABATEMENT OR REMEDIATION PURPOSES AND THAT FUNDS CANNOT BE USED TO SUPPLANT FUNDING FOR AN EXISTING PROGRAM OR ANY INDIRECT COSTS.
IN APRIL OF 2024, A COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP GRANT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE OAA BY PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND SURREY COUNTY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DISTRICT 19, CSB, FOR THE CREATION OF A CRISIS RECEIVING CENTER.
THIS WAS A NEED THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BY OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THEIR CCJB, AND HAD SUPPORT IN BOTH LOCALITIES, PRINCE GEORGE AND SURREY.
THE COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP GRANTS ARE COMPETITIVE.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN JUNE OF 2024, WE LEARNED THAT THE OAA CHOSE NOT TO AWARD THIS PROJECT DUE TO LACK OF PARTICIPATION FROM OTHER LOCALITIES WITHIN DISTRICT 19 CATCHMENT AREA.
THERE ARE NINE LOCALITIES WITHIN THE CATCHMENT AREA OF DISTRICT 19.
THERE WERE CONCERNS REGARDING LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY.
I WILL SAY THAT SINCE THAT TIME, THERE'S BEEN SOME MOVEMENT BY THE STATE TO POSSIBLY FUND THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS FANTASTIC, SO OUR WORK WAS NOT DONE IN VAIN.
I PUT A SPOTLIGHT ON THE NEED IN OUR REGION.
WE'RE HOPING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT SINCE THAT TIME, OUR CCJB HAS INVITED OTHER LOCALITIES WITHIN DISTRICT 19 CATCHMENT AREA TO THE DISCUSSIONS, AND IT HAS ULTIMATELY BEEN DECIDED THAT A NEW SMALLER SCALE PROJECT WOULD BE PLANNED.
AGAIN, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DISTRICT 19, CSB, THE COUNTIES OF PRINCE GEORGE, SURREY, DINWIDDIE, SUSSEX, AND AS WELL AS THE CITY OF HOPEWELL, ARE SEEKING TO ESTABLISH A MOBILE OVERDOSE RESPONSE UNIT, WHICH WOULD DEDICATE CERTIFIED PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST STAFF TO OVERDOSE RESPONSE AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THE STAFF WOULD BE HOUSED AT DISTRICT 19.
I WOULD WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO RESPOND AND PROVIDE TIMELY ACCESS TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, PEER RECOVERY SERVICES,
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MEDICATION ASSISTED TREATMENT, HARM REDUCTION KITS, WHICH CONTAIN THINGS LIKE NARCAN, WHICH IS WHAT'S ADMINISTERED TO FOLKS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING AN OVERDOSE, AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITY RESOURCES.THE STAFF WOULD BE PROACTIVELY ENGAGED IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH, INCLUDING OVERDOSE PREVENTION AND EDUCATION EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE PARTICIPATING LOCALITIES.
SIMILAR PROJECTS ARE OPERATING ELSEWHERE, SUCH AS IN CHESTERFIELD, AS WELL AS IN SMALLER AND MORE RURAL LOCALITIES, SUCH AS CULPEPER, FAUQUIRE, MADISON, AND ORANGE.
SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED BY THE OAA.
WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE OAA HAS SEEN BEFORE AND HAS FUNDED BEFORE.
THE LOCALITIES IN DISTRICT 19 CSB SEEK A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 400,000.
WE WANTED TO ESTIMATE A LITTLE HIGHER JUST IN CASE, $400,000 IN FUNDING FROM THE OAA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 AND FISCAL YEARS 2027 THROUGH 2030.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOCAL MATCH IN REGARDS TO AVAILABLE OAA FUNDING, THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY FOUR POTS OF MONEY.
THERE'S THE DIRECT DISTRIBUTION, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THAT COMES DIRECTLY TO THE LOCALITY FROM THE OPIOID MANUFACTURERS AND DISTRIBUTORS.
THERE'S THE INDIVIDUAL DISTRIBUTION THAT IS AN AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT IS SET ASIDE AT THE OAA FOR EACH LOCALITY AND CAN BE RECEIVED IF THE LOCALITY AGREES TO SPEND IT ON ABATEMENT PROJECTS AS REQUIRED.
THERE'S THE GOLD STANDARD INCENTIVE AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, WHICH IS AN AMOUNT OF FUNDING, AGAIN, SET ASIDE AT THE OAA THAT CAN BE RECEIVED IF A LOCALITY AGREES TO THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN THAT LAST POT OF FUNDING, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE GOING AFTER IS THE COMPETITIVE COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP GRANTS, WHICH AGAIN, CAN ONLY BE APPLIED FOR BY WAY OF A MUTUAL AGREEMENT BY TWO OR MORE LOCALITIES WITHIN THE CATCHMENT AREA OF A COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD.
THE LOCAL MATCH REQUESTED FROM PRINCE GEORGE FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION IS $141,187.40, WHICH IS THE TOTAL OF THE THREE POTS OF FUNDING THAT I'VE DESCRIBED, THE DIRECT, THE INDIVIDUAL, AND THE GOLD STANDARD.
AGAIN, THIS IS FUNDING THAT'S THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR OPIOID ABATEMENT PROJECTS, AND IT'S NOT TIED TO COUNTY GENERAL FUND.
DINWIDDIE COUNTY AND SURREY COUNTY HAVE ALREADY AGREED.
FOLKS WENT BEFORE THEIR BOARDS ALREADY DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, AND THOSE BOARDS HAVE AGREED TO THE PROJECT AND THEIR RESPECTIVE LOCAL MATCHES.
I BELIEVE THAT CITY OF HOPEWELL WILL BE VOTING ON THE PROJECT THIS EVENING.
SUSAN FERRO, OUR COMMONWEALTH [NOISE], WHO IS HERE WITH ME.
SHE AND I RECENTLY PRESENTED ALONG WITH HOPEWELL, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JAMES GASTON, WHO WAS HERE EARLIER, ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
WE PRESENTED AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SUSSEX AT THIS TIME, BUT THE GOAL IS THAT ALL THE LOCALITIES HAVE AN AUTHORIZED THE AGREEMENT BY MARCH 14 IN ORDER FOR US TO MEET THE APRIL 1 DEADLINE FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION SUBMISSION.
>> AT THIS TIME, OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE FOR THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A REGIONAL VIRGINIA OPIOID ABATEMENT AUTHORITY COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT, THAT'S A MOUTHFUL, AS REQUIRED WITH PARTICIPATING LOCALITIES AND OUR DISTRICT 19 COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD FOR THE COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP APPLICATION.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THE PROJECT OR THE GRANT APPLICATION.
>> DOES ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND IT'S NOTHING ABOUT THE GRANT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TONIGHT.
I AM CURIOUS THOUGH, HOW WOULD THIS MOBILE UNIT WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH FIRE & EMS? BECAUSE FIRE & EMS, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WOULD GET THAT INITIAL CALL THAT THERE'S AN OVERDOSE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO, ESPECIALLY BEING REGIONAL WITH ALL THE AREAS, THIS MOBILE UNIT, HOW DO YOU SEE IT PLAYING INTO SUPPORTING THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT IS THERE FOR OVERDOSE CALLS?
>> WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITHIN OUR CCJB WORK GROUP, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THE OVERDOSES ARE REPORTED BECAUSE THE POLICE RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION ONE WAY, FIRE & EMS CODES IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EVEN WITHIN THE LOCALITY HOW THAT INFORMATION IS REPORTED, AND THEN HOW EACH LOCALITY MAY RECORD THAT INFORMATION DIFFERENTLY.
WHAT WE WOULD DO WOULD BE HAVE SOME AGREEMENT WITH EACH LOCALITIES EMS AND
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LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM THEM.ONCE IT'S RECEIVED, THE STAFF PERSON WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION, WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A RESPONSE WITHIN 48-72 HOURS.
EACH LOCALITY WOULD DESIGNATE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THERE WOULD BE FUNDING IN THE GRANT TO PAY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OVERTIME SO THAT THEY WOULD BE RESPONDING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CERTIFIED PEER RECOVERY SPECIALIST.
>> THANK YOU. MS. PIERRE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY BEFORE WE ACT ON THIS?
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MADAM VICE CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, MS. ERARD. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE CANNOT SOLVE THIS THROUGH THE PORTS AND THROUGH OUR JAILS, AND THE ROAD TO SOBRIETY IS NOT STRAIGHT AND IT HAS BUMPS AND SETBACKS FOR PEOPLE.
I THINK THIS WILL REALLY HELP OUT OUR COMMUNITIES.
>> THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION.
>> I THINK MR. PUGH HAS A QUESTION.
>> LET ME GET MY WORDS TOGETHER. I APOLOGIZE.
>> HOW COME OUR AMOUNT IS SO MUCH HIGH THAN ALL THE OTHER LOCALITIES?
>> THE COUNTIES OF DINWIDDIE AND SUSSEX, AS WELL AS THE CITY OF HOPEWELL, HAD ALREADY DEDICATED THEIR DIRECT FUNDS TO PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THEIR LOCALITY.
BECAUSE PRINCE GEORGE AND SURREY HAD AGREED EARLY ON TO GO INTO A COOPERATIVE PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER AND SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION TOGETHER, WE STILL HAD OUR DIRECT FUNDS AVAILABLE.
ONCE WE LEARNED THAT WE WERE NOT AWARDED THAT GRANT, THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED INVITING OTHER LOCALITIES INTO THE CONVERSATIONS, AND SO THOSE LOCALITIES HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED THOSE DIRECT FUNDS TO THEIR PROJECTS.
PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, SURREY COUNTY HAS NOT DEVOTED OR DEDICATED OUR DIRECT FUNDS TO ANY PROJECT AS OF YET.
ALL FIVE LOCALITIES, HOWEVER, WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING THEIR INDIVIDUAL AND THEIR GOLD STANDARD.
>> I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT.
IT'S GOT COUNTY DINWIDDIE, 23,000, PRINCE GEORGE, 141,000, SURREY, 23.
YOU'RE TELLING ME THEY'VE ALREADY EARMARKED MONEY, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE CHEAPER NOW?
>> THEY'RE DIRECT FUNDS. THAT'S CORRECT.
>> ARE THEY ALL ABOUT THE SAME?
>> THEY ARE NOT. THE CLOSEST LOCALITY TO PRINCE GEORGE IS THE CITY OF HOPEWELL.
HOW THOSE FIGURES ARE COMPUTED, THERE'S A MATRIX.
MANY THINGS ARE INVOLVED IN THAT POPULATION, NUMBER OF OVERDOSES.
THEY GET INFORMATION FROM THE LOCAL HOSPITALS.
THERE'S A LOT OF METRICS THAT GO IN TO DETERMINING HOW MUCH LOCALITIES ARE RECEIVING.
>> THIS ONE TIME PRICE OF THIS WOULD BE CHEAPER NEXT YEAR THEN, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> WELL, THESE WOULD BE THE AMOUNTS THAT WE COMMIT TO FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
>> AFTER THE FIVE YEARS, IT WOULD BE THE SAME OR LOWER?
>> IT WOULD JUST DEPEND. WE CAN CERTAINLY REVISIT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE OTHER LOCALITIES PROJECTS ARE THAT THEY'VE DEVOTED THEIR DIRECT DISTRIBUTIONS TO.
IF THIS PROJECT GETS UP AND IS RUNNING AND IS GOING VERY WELL AND THEY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE MORE, THAT'S CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY.
BUT AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING.
>> LET ME BE CLEAR. THESE COMMITMENTS ARE COMING FROM EITHER THE LOCAL MATCHES OR JUST A COMPARATIVE SIDE?
>> THIS 142 FOR US, SOME OF THAT'S OUR LOCAL MONEY.
>> THE OPIOID MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO US FOR LOCAL AND WE DIDN'T ALLOCATE IT FOR ANYTHING, WE'RE TAKING THAT AND THEN USING IT WITH THE OTHER POT, PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
>> YOU'RE NOT ASKING THE COUNTY TO GO INTO FUND BALANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GENERATE THIS 140 SOME THOUSAND.
>> I UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.
>> YES, SIR. I'M SORRY IF I WASN'T CLEAR, BUT YES, THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY, THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT FOR OPIOID ABATEMENT AND REMEDIATION.
>> BUT THEY'RE MONIES THAT WE RECEIVED AS PART OF THAT OPIOID SETTLEMENT THAT WAS DONE THAT WE HAD PUT OUR NAME IN THE HAT FOR.
>> YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GOOD? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET.
>> IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. PUGH THAT WE WOULD HAVE OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN OFF ON THE REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP RELATED TO THE OPIOID REBATEMENT AND THIS MOBILE UNIT TO ALSO WORK WITH DISTRICT 19.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
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>> THANK YOU, ALL. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
>> NEXT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT.
THIS WOULD BE TO LIFE SCAN FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF ANNUAL PHYSICALS.
I BELIEVE THIS IS RELATED TO OUR FIRE & EMS OR FIRE VOLUNTEERS.
THIS WOULD BE DONE, I GUESS BY OUR CHIEF AND A COMBINATION WITH MS. DRURY.
>> YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, CHIEF CACERES.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD AN AWARD OF CONTRACT TO LIFE SCAN TO PERFORM ANNUAL PHYSICALS.
THIS WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE FY '25 BUDGET.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT OUR FORMER CHIEF INCLUDED IN HIS BUDGET REQUEST, AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WAS FUNDED FOR FY 2025.
THIS WOULD PROVIDE AN ANNUAL PHYSICAL FOR BOTH CAREER AND VOLUNTEER STAFF.
CHIEF CAN EXPLAIN HIS DESIRE TO REQUIRE THAT ANNUAL PHYSICAL, THE BENEFITS THAT THAT HAS, HOW IT SUPPORTS THE PILLARS UNDER WHICH HE OPERATES.
WE WOULD LIKE TO USE A COOPERATIVE CITY OF WILLIAMSBURG CONTRACT WITH LIFE SCAN AT A COST OF $882 PER PHYSICAL, NOT TO EXCEED 108 PHYSICALS OR A TOTAL OF $96,000.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> I'M EXCITED TO FINALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY.
I'M SAYING I'M EXCITED BECAUSE THE PHYSIOLOGICAL RESPONSE OF BEING EXCITED ABOUT SOMETHING AND ALSO BEING STRESSED OR NERVOUS ABOUT IT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A MENTAL NOTE FOR MYSELF.
THAT IS ALL GOOD, HOW YOU FRAME YOUR BODY'S REACTIONS.
THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT WAS PUT FORTH BY CHIEF TAYLOR.
HE DESERVES THE CREDIT FOR STARTING THIS, BUT I FULLY SUPPORT IT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE GET TO INTERACT MORE OFTEN, YOU'LL HEAR ME SPEAK ABOUT THREE PILLARS THAT I BELIEVE ARE IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT OUR MISSION.
THE FIRST ONE IS KNOWLEDGE, EDUCATION, AND SO FORTH.
THE SECOND ONE IS FITNESS, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL FITNESS.
WE HAVE A JOB THAT IS VERY PHYSICALLY DEMANDING WHEN IT MATTERS THE MOST.
NOT ALL THE TIME WE'RE GOING AT 100 MILES AN HOUR.
BUT WHEN WE DO, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR BODIES.
TO THAT END, THIS IS A GOOD STEP TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR MEMBERS.
I THINK IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY, MY DUTY TO MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT FOR WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THIS IS NOT ONLY JUST REQUIRED BY THE NFPA STANDARDS, 1852, IN THIS CASE, BUT IS SOMETHING THAT IS RECOGNIZED NATIONWIDE AND INTERNATIONALLY AS THE BEST PRACTICE.
NFPA OBVIOUSLY SETS A STANDARD, BUT IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE UNITED STATES FIRE ADMINISTRATION, THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE CHIEFS, THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS, THE UNION FOLKS.
THE NATIONAL VOLUNTEER FIRE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THIS INITIATIVE.
THERE'S DOCUMENTS IN YOUR PACKETS THAT SUPPORT ALL OF THESE CLAIMS. THE NATIONAL FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS AND A SLEW OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS NATIONALLY THAT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE BASE THAT WE CAN PREVENT OR INCREASE THE SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR MEMBERS.
I AM CHARGED WITH LOOKING OUT FOR THEM, AND I THINK, LIKE I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP.
OUR INTENT IS TO MAKE THIS A WELLNESS INITIATIVE.
WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE THE MEMBERS TO TAKE THE PHYSICAL.
THE RESULTS OF THE PHYSICALS DON'T COME BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT, SO I WON'T GET A REPORT WITH ANYBODY'S PHYSICAL AILMENTS OR ISSUES THAT THEY MIGHT FIND. THAT'S ALL PROTECTED.
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IT'LL BE BETWEEN THE FIREFIGHTER AND THE PROVIDER TO LOOK AT, REVIEW, UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES, AND MAKE LIFESTYLE ADJUSTMENTS.TO THIS, I WILL SAY THAT I JUST LEARNED TODAY THIS AFTERNOON THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT WHOSE LIFE WAS SAVED BY HAVING ATTENDED ONE OF THESE PHYSICALS.
HE WAS IDENTIFIED AS HAVING SOME HEART CONDITION THAT WAS CRITICAL AND NEEDED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
HAD HE NOT GONE TO HIS PHYSICAL, HE WOULD NOT BE WITH US AT THIS TIME.
LIKE THAT, I CAN ATTEST TO PERSONALLY KNOWING FIREFIGHTERS BACK IN INDIANA WHERE I WAS FROM WHO WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY CONDITIONS THAT WERE NOT DISQUALIFYING BUT NEEDED ATTENTION, AND IN THIS CASE, WERE CANCER RELATED ISSUES.
THEY WERE ABLE TO TREAT EARLY, HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME, AND CONTINUE THEIR CAREER.
THIS IS NOT A PUNITIVE MEASURE.
THIS IS STRICTLY A SAFETY ENHANCEMENT.
THERE ARE, IF YOU READ THE STANDARD, CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS, OR CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT WOULD PRECLUDE SOMEBODY FROM PARTICIPATING OR ENGAGING IN FIREFIGHTING ACTIVITIES IF YOU CHANGE THE MODEL INTO A FIT FOR DUTY MODE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
FIT FOR DUTY, IT'S A COMPLETE SEPARATE THING.
IT'S THE SAME PHYSICAL, BUT IT'S LAID OUT DIFFERENTLY SO THAT THE RESULT IS NOT THE SAME.
I THINK THAT THIS IS, AGAIN, A GOOD INITIATIVE, AND REALLY A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR WHAT I HOPE IS ADDITIONAL HEALTH AND SAFETY INITIATIVES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT IN THE FUTURE TO ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO SAFELY PERFORM THE DUTY THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO PERFORM. QUESTIONS?
>> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER MS. DRURY OR FOR CHIEF CACERES?
JUST MORE OF A COMMENT FOR THE BOARD TO HEAR.
OAKVILLE, PETERSBURG, A LOT OF THE OTHER TRI-CITIES ARE GOING TO THIS.
I ACTUALLY JUST HAD ONE IN THE CITY, WHICH I'VE GOT A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT TOMORROW BECAUSE IT FOUND SOMETHING.
THERE'S A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS IN OUR SYSTEM THAT WORK FOR CAREER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO ACCRUE THE COST BECAUSE THEIR DEPARTMENTS ACCRUED.
LIKE ME, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS.
I JUST HAD IT DONE THREE WEEKS AGO.
IT PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO GET TO THAT 96,000 EITHER.
>> TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S SOME COORDINATION THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE PROVIDER, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.
THAT SAID NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE ON OUR ESTIMATES.
>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY ONLY QUESTION, HOW CLOSE WAS THAT NUMBER NOT TO EXCEED BASED ON CURRENT COUNT? BECAUSE IF YOU HIRE NEW PEOPLE, I JUST DIDN'T WANT US TO HAVE THAT NOT TO EXCEED AND IT WAS A POSSIBILITY ALREADY OUT THE GATE THAT EITHER BY THE NUMBER OR THE DOLLAR FIGURE.
>> THE NUMBER IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE CERTIFIED TO BE IDLH, TO ACTUALLY MAKE ENTRY INTO A DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT.
THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBER IS BASED, BUT WE DO NEED TO CROSS CHECK THAT WITH ADDITIONAL MEMBERS THAT ALREADY HAVE IT.
>> AS LONG AS THE TWO OF YOU, YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT AND YOU FEEL GOOD WE CAN PAY FOR IT.
>> DOES THIS INCLUDE CHEST X-RAYS TOO?
>> THE RECOMMENDATION IS FIRST YEAR TO DO A CHEST X-RAY.
>> IF YOU WOULD, THANK CHIEF TAYLOR FOR GETTING IT INITIATED AND GETTING IT STARTED, AND YOU FOR CARRYING IT THROUGH.
>> ACTION, BOARD MEMBERS, ON THIS ONE?
>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECOND BY MR. COX THAT WE WOULD AUTHORIZE FOR THE SIGNING OF THIS CONTRACT WITH LIFE SCAN FOR PROVIDING
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THE PHYSICALS FOR OUR FIRE & EMS STAFF.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. NEXT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION OF THE ATTENDANCE POLICY FOR BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS.
THERE IS NO ACTION FOR TONIGHT, EXCEPT FOR TO HEAR THIS RIGHT NOW, SO THIS WILL BE DONE BY OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, MS. ERARD.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THERE IS A DRAFT RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET, AS WELL AS A PRESENTATION THAT OUTLINES THE LEGAL ABILITY TO ADDRESS ATTENDANCE ISSUES WITH MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THAT, BUT GIVEN THAT THERE'S NO ACTION CONTEMPLATED FOR TONIGHT AND THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I PREPARED THIS AT THE BOARD'S REQUEST AS A STARTING POINT TO IDENTIFY AND DELINEATE AN ATTENDANCE POLICY THAT ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE APPOINTED TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COULD BE AWARE OF IN THEIR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.
HAPPY TO MAKE ANY REVISIONS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT WANT.
YOU CAN EMAIL ME, AND I CAN THEN SEND OUT A BLACK-LINED COPY.
>> THIS IS JUST ME. I PERSONALLY THINK I KNOW TIME IS GETTING, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUBLICLY COVER THE SLIDES.
>> BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> WE NEED TO PUT THIS THING TO REST.
>> I REALIZE IT'S IN THE PACKET AND IT'S AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT FOR THOSE THAT DON'T GO OUT TO BOARD AND MAY WATCH THIS ON A REPLAY, I JUST THINK IT'S AT LEAST WORTH GOING THROUGH CERTAIN SLIDES BECAUSE BECAUSE IT ANSWERS CERTAIN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT COUNTS AS A MEETING AND THAT THING, AND WHAT THE CODE REALLY MEANS.
>> MY FAITHFUL ASSISTANT IS PULLING IT UP NOW.
>> IT'S IN THE PACKET TOO. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
THIS PRESENTATION ONLY ADDRESSES STATE LAW IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE.
THE STATE CODE 15.2-2212, DID YOU DO THAT?
>> ADDRESSES PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND WHEN THEY CAN BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
THEY CAN BE REMOVED FOR MALFEASANCE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S USUALLY PRETTY SERIOUS.
THEY CAN ALSO BE REMOVED IF THEY MISS THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS OR ANY FOUR MEETINGS WITHIN A 12-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT HAS TO BE JANUARY 1 TO DECEMBER 31ST.
IT MEANS THAT IF YOU START IN MARCH, ANYTIME UNTIL THE NEXT MARCH COMES AROUND, WITHIN THAT 12 MONTHS, IF THERE ARE FOUR MEETINGS MISSED, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE CONSECUTIVE THAT A PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER IS IN DANGER OF BEING REMOVED.
I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON WHAT IS MALFEASANCE.
IT'S SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY BAD.
IT COULD BE A CONVICTION OF A CRIME OR SOMETHING THAT BRINGS SHAME OR EMBARRASSMENT ON THE COMMISSION.
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IT'S WAY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF ATTENDANCE.WHAT THE STATE LAW SAYS IS THAT A MEMBER OF THE LOCAL PLANNING COMMISSION MAY BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY.
HAVING STUDIED STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, I INTERPRET THE MAY AS BEING A SHALL.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS WHO SEE IT THE OTHER WAY.
BUT IN STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION, WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE PARAGRAPH OR THE ENTIRE SECTION, AND I BELIEVE THAT GIVEN THAT THE SECTION IS INTENDED TO SET OUT WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE PROPERLY CONSTRUED AS A SHALL.
THE STATE LAW GOES ON TO, AGAIN, RESTATE THE PROVISION THAT TALKS ABOUT REMOVAL.
THEN A QUESTION THAT I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES IS WHETHER OUR BOARD IS IN TROUBLE FOR NOT HAVING PREVIOUSLY ENFORCED THE RULE, AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO BECAUSE THERE'S NO PENALTY FOR THAT, OTHER THAN MAYBE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM OR ACTIONS THAT WERE NEEDED BY APPLICANTS GOT DELAYED.
I WILL SAY THAT THE PRACTICE IN MY EXPERIENCE ACROSS THE STATE IS HAPHAZARD.
I DON'T THINK I KNOW OF ANY LOCAL GOVERNING BODY THAT FOLLOWS IT ABSOLUTELY STRICTLY ALL THE TIME TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
BUT I DO ENCOURAGE CONSISTENCY IN APPLICATION.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD JUST PICK AND CHOOSE CERTAIN PEOPLE TO APPLY THE RULE.
THIS SLIDE TALKS ABOUT WHAT DOES THE 12-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
AGAIN, MISSING FOUR MEETINGS IN ANY 12-MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
IT CAN BE JUNE TO JUNE, SEPTEMBER TO SEPTEMBER.
IT DOES NOT MEAN A CALENDAR YEAR.
WHAT IF A PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS SERIOUSLY ILL OR HAS A REALLY VALID REASON FOR NOT ATTENDING THE MEETINGS? THE FOCUS OF THIS STATE LAW SECTION IS NOT PUNITIVE.
IT'S NOT TO PUNISH SOMEBODY WHO HAS A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT ARISES THAT MAY PREVENT THEM FROM ATTENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATING AS THEY HAD INTENDED WHEN THEY WERE APPOINTED.
FAMILY MEMBERS GET SICK. PEOPLE DIE.
THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR AN EXCUSED ABSENCE IN THE STATE LAW BECAUSE THE FOCUS IS HAVING PEOPLE COME TO THE MEETINGS SO THAT THE BUSINESS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN BE DONE.
THERE IS, IN THE LAW, NO NEGATIVE CONNOTATION IF SOMEONE IS UNABLE TO BE THERE.
BUT THERE IS NO MECHANISM FOR AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.
CAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALLOW FOR EXCUSED ABSENCES? NO, THE STATE LAW, AND WE'RE A DILLON'S RULE STATE, SO WE ONLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT IS GIVEN TO US FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AND THERE IS NO AUTHORITY FOR THAT IN THE STATE LAW.
DO WORK SESSIONS COUNT AS A MEETING? YES, THEY ARE A MEETING.
ANYTIME THERE'S A QUORUM ASSEMBLED OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR A MEETING IS CALLED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT IS A MEETING.
IF IT'S ON THE COMP PLAN, THAT'S A MEETING.
IF IT'S A WORK SESSION TO PREPARE FOR THE REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING, THAT'S A MEETING.
IF IT'S THE REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING, OF COURSE, THAT IS ALSO A MEETING.
I DID HEAR THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF THE MONDAY NIGHT WORK SESSION AND INSTEAD HAVE A WORK SESSION BEFORE THE REGULAR MEETING, AND THEIR WORK SESSION WOULD START AT 5:30 P.M. THAT WOULD COUNT AS ONE MEETING.
IF SOMEBODY PARTICIPATES ELECTRONICALLY, DOES THAT COUNT AS AN ABSENCE? IT DOES NOT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE PARTICIPATING ELECTRONICALLY, YOU CAN VOTE AS IF YOU ARE PRESENT IN THE ROOM.
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THAT DOES NOT COUNT AS AN ABSENCE.I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT HAVE.
>> ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
>> JUST A COMMENT ON THAT LAST SLIDE.
THE REMOTE PIECE THOUGH IS TIED TO THE WAY IT'S STATED THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM PHYSICALLY IN THE BUILDING OR LOCATION WHERE YOU'RE HAVING THE MEETINGS.
THAT'S WHETHER IT'S US OR PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> THAT IS THEY DON'T HAVE A QUORUM IN WHATEVER ROOM THEY'RE MEETING IN, THEN THEY CANNOT HAVE THE MEETING PERIOD NOR ALLOW A PERSON REMOTELY TO COUNT TOWARDS THAT QUORUM.
>> CORRECT. THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES ABOUT PARTICIPATING ELECTRONICALLY.
IT'S ONLY NOT GOING TO COUNT AS AN ABSENCE IF YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE STATE LAW SAYS FOR PARTICIPATION IN ELECTRONIC MEETINGS.
>> I HAVE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP.
>> YOU GOT ON HERE ON THE RESOLUTION SELF, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE CLERK OF THE BOARD IS DIRECTED TO PROVIDE A LETTER NOTIFYING AN APPOINTEE THAT HE OR SHE IS SUBJECT TO REMOVAL FOR FULL MEETING ATTENDANCE.
I THINK THAT SHOULD EITHER COME FROM THE CHAIRMAN OR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CLERK OF THE BOARD'S JOB TO NOTIFY SOMEBODY OF THAT.
>> I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
GENERALLY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE HANDLED BY THE CLERK.
SHE NOTIFIES THE PEOPLE, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'VE BEEN APPOINTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
>> THIS IS A DISCIPLINARY ACTION.
I THINK THAT OUGHT TO COME HIGHER UP THAN PUTTING THAT ON HER.
>> BUT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANY RESOLUTION OR ANYTHING TONIGHT.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY THING I SEE. I THINK THE REST OF IT'S FINE.
>> I JUST REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE CAN'T COME TO MEETINGS FOR LOTS OF REASONS THAT ARE VERY, VERY GOOD.
I THINK THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN PERCEIVED AS BEING PUNITIVE.
THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF THE LAW.
THE INTENT OF THE LAW IS TO HAVE A FUNCTIONING PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO ESTABLISH WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE.
THERE'S NO ASPERSION OR NEGATIVE INTENT ABOUT ANY PERSON WITH RESPECT TO THE ATTENDANCE EXPECTATIONS.
>> NEXT WE HAVE IS THE AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF $2,082,033, AND THIS IS RELATED TO OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
>> YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, MR. JARED AND MR. STOKE. THE SCHOOL DIVISION, WHEN IT HAS ACTUAL REVENUES THAT EXCEED ACTUAL EXPENDITURES DURING A FISCAL YEAR, THAT EXCESS REVENUE OVER EXPENDITURES ULTIMATELY REVERTS TO GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
TO DATE, THE SCHOOL DIVISION HAS REQUESTED SOME REAPPROPRIATION OF THE OVER THREE MILLION THAT REVERTED FOR PURCHASE ORDER REAPPROPRIATIONS AND ALSO TO SETTLE UP AND FINAL THE HEALTH FUND DEFICIT THAT HAD ACCUMULATED FROM SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
THE BALANCE THAT REMAINS IN THE FUND BALANCE FROM THEIR PRIOR YEAR EXCESS REVERSION TO FUND BALANCE IS 2,082,000 AND CHANGE.
THEY DID MAKE A FUNDING REQUEST TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS REAPPROPRIATED TO THE COUNTY-WIDE CAPITAL FUND FOR A VARIETY OF PROJECTS AND PURCHASES.
THAT LISTING WAS ATTACHED AS ATTACHMENT A IN BOARD DOCS AND IN YOUR PACKET.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF INITIATIVES THAT THEY HAVE REQUESTED THE FUNDING TO BE REAPPROPRIATED AGAIN TO THE CAPITAL FUND SO THAT IT DOESN'T LAPSE ON JUNE 30TH, AND IT INCLUDES FUNDING TO INSTALL OBJECT DETECTORS AND WANDS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, SOME AWNINGS THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DIVISION, EIGHT VEHICLES, THREE SCHOOL BUSES TO GET AHEAD OF THAT FOUR BUSES A YEAR SMOOTHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DO FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, THREE LAWNMOWERS AND A TRACTOR TO REPLACE SOME AGED EQUIPMENT, ATHLETIC FIELD AND GYMNASIUM IMPROVEMENTS, TO HAVE A FACILITY STUDY CONDUCTED, SOME SMART BOARDS FOR THEIR TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT OR FOR THE SCHOOLS THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT,
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SOME SOFTWARE UPGRADES, FIRE PANEL UPGRADE, FRONT DOOR REPLACEMENT, SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS, AND SOME CAFETERIA LIGHTS AND STAGE CONTROLS.I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH MR. BARNES TODAY.
HE ASKED YESTERDAY IF I COULD SQUEEZE IN SOME TIME TO MEET WITH HIM.
HE ASKED IF THE AUTHORIZATION WAS GIVEN TO MAKE THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WOULD BE CONDUCTED ON MARCH 25, WE DO HAVE TO RUN THE AD TWICE.
IF THERE WAS FLEXIBILITY IN THE APPROPRIATION.
HE MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THE LIST, I THINK FROM THE TIME THAT THEY INITIALLY PREPARED THE LIST TO CURRENT, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME PRICING AND OR SCOPE CHANGES FOR A FEW OF THESE THINGS.
BUT I MENTIONED TO HIM THAT TYPICALLY WHEN WE ADVERTISE, WE TRY TO ENCOMPASS WHAT WILL BE PURCHASED, AND WE WOULD APPROPRIATE IT TO THE CAPITAL FUND BY CATEGORY.
WE WOULD DO X AMOUNT FOR SCHOOL BUSES, X AMOUNT FOR VEHICLES, X AMOUNT FOR OBJECT DETECTORS, AND IT WOULD COINCIDE WITH THE LIST AT THE AMOUNTS THEY HAVE PROVIDED.
MR. BARNES IS IN THE AUDIENCE, AND I BELIEVE MAYBE MR. ELI, OR ACTUALLY DR. LYLE IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, AND IF HE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ANY MORE ON THE POTENTIAL CHANGES.
>> YEAH, I WAS WAITING TO SEE IF HE WANTED THAT.
YOU GUYS WANT HIM TO SPEAK FIRST OR YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
>> YOU CAN SPEAK FIRST [NOISE].
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN BROWN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> MR. ERARD AND MR. STOKE. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO MISS JURY'S PRESENTATION.
SHE SUMMED IT UP APPROPRIATELY, AND I'M PREPARED TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> MR. WEBB, I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION.
>> YEAH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.
THERE'S NOTHING ON HERE FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OR ROOFING OR ANYTHING IN THE SCHOOLS?
>> WELL, MR. WEBB, WE'VE DONE QUITE A FEW ROOFING REPAIRS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, STARTING WITH LOCAL FUNDING, ESTRA FUNDING, THE CAPITAL FUNDING THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDED, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY, I BELIEVE, AROUND $640,000 SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN LINE. YES, SIR.
THE CONSOLIDATION, THE NEXT ITEM WE'RE REQUESTING, THE NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS SOME SMALLER ROOFING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE FUNDS TO GET TO.
THE REMAINING ROOFING PROJECTS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ON THE BOOKS IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, TOTAL EIGHT PROJECTS TO THE TUNE OF $6.9 MILLION.
>> WELL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE STUDENTS AND THE TEACHERS, I'VE MADE THIS STATEMENT EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD.
THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ONE OF YOUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSETS AND WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING LIKE WALTON POP UP. WE'VE HAD LEAKS.
THERE'S BEEN LEAKS OUT HERE FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS THAT I KNOW OF.
I ASKED IT AT THE LAST CHAIR OF VICE CHAIR MEETING, AND I GOT A DAR AND THE HEAD LIGHT, LOOK, LIKE WHAT LEAKS? I SAID, [NOISE] AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE GOT A BUDGET FOR IT.
I'M A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS ON THAT, BUT THE REASON THAT I'M GETTING TO WHERE I'M GETTING AT IS WE NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT TO THE CITIZENS AND MORE SPECIFIC.
GOING TO THE CIP IS ONE THING.
BUT IF YOU'VE GOT PRIORITIES OF WHAT YOU NEED LIKE ROOFS AND ALL, I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD TAKE PRIORITY OVER TOP OF AWNINGS. THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
>> ANYTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE.
I ASKED A QUESTION A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE.
I THINK YOU WERE THOUGH. I'M NOT TRYING TO BROW BEACH IN PUBLIC.
>> THE FIRST DAY AT SCHOOL, WE HAD PUT 1.4 MILLION AS A PLACEHOLDER.
FOR THE HVAC REPLACEMENT UP HERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
FIRST TWO DAYS OF SCHOOL, I GET CALLS FROM CITIZENS TELLING ME, IT'S 8-7 DEGREES OUTSIDE.
THE REGISTER HOT, YOU CAN'T LEAN UP AGAINST THEM.
I SENT AN EMAIL AND ASKED Y'ALL 'CAUSE I KNEW THE PROJECT WAS GOING FORTH.
WAS IT A CONTROLS ISSUE OR WHAT WAS GOING ON? NEVER GOT A RESPONSE.
BUT GOING FORWARD, WE MOVED FORWARD AND WE COMPLETED THAT.
NOW I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ON YOUR SPREADSHEET WHAT PART OF THAT 1.4, AND WHAT WAS A ADDITIONAL THAT FOR THE TOTAL HVAC UPGRADE THAT YOU DID AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LINE ITEM IS AT OR WHAT CATEGORY IS COMING AT.
SO TO BOIL DOWN WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS CATEGORICAL FUNDING AND YOU GOT THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OUT HERE THAT BY THE STATE.
WE WENT TO THAT TO TRY TO GET SOME TRANSPARENCY AND ALSO TO APPEASE THE CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT.
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IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND IT.YOU GOT AWNINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THE ITEMS OUT OF EVERYTHING WE GOT GOING ON WITH ANY OF THE SCHOOLS?
>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, SIR.
THE SCHOOL BOARD AS A GROUP DECIDED THAT THE OBJECT DETECTORS WERE A SAFETY AND SECURITY CONCERN THAT THEY WANTED TO IMPLEMENT IN OUR SCHOOL.
AS A SIDE EFFECT OF THAT, THE STUDENTS HAVE TO WAIT OUTSIDE IN THE WEATHER TO GO THROUGH THESE OBJECT DETECTORS, AND CURRENTLY SEVEN OF OUR NINE SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE ANY AWNINGS WHATSOEVER AT ALL TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE WEATHER RELATED TO WAITING TO GO THROUGH OBJECT DETECTORS AS THEY ENTER THE BUILDING.
IF THE BOARD CHOSE NOT TO GO THE OBJECT DETECTOR ROUTE, THEN THE AWNINGS WOULD NOT BE AS NECESSARY.
THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE LIST, AS YOU ALL SAW IN THE SHEET WE SENT OVER, WE HAVE SEVEN CARS ON THE ROAD EVERY DAY RIGHT NOW WITH STUDENT TRANSPORT.
THESE ARE NOT VEHICLES THAT STAFF ARE DRIVING.
WELL, THE STAFF ARE DRIVING THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT TO GET AROUND TO OTHER SCHOOLS.
THEY'RE TO GET STUDENTS TO SPECIALTY CENTERS.
WE SEND A VEHICLE UP TO ST. JOSEPH VILLA DAY CENTER AT BROOK ROAD AND PAM ROAD TWICE A DAY EVERY DAY.
IT'S WELL OVER 100 MILES ROUND TRIP PER DAY PER CAR.
WE HAVE SEVEN VEHICLES ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW WITH OVER 160,000 MILES ON THEM.
THE SMOOTHING SCHEDULE WITH THE BUSES IS GREATLY APPRECIATED FROM THE COUNTY, BUT IT IS A ROTATION OF 60 BUSES, AND WE HAVE 72 ON THE ROAD.
IN ADDITION, THE FOUR BUSES WERE UNDERFUNDED LAST YEAR BY $41,000.
WE HAD TO USE OUR BUDGETED VEHICLE MONEY TO FINISH PAYING FOR THE FOURTH BUS.
THEREFORE, WE COULDN'T BUY A VEHICLE.
THE SOFTBALL FIELD LIGHTS WERE THE VERY FIRST PROBLEM I IDENTIFIED WHEN [NOISE] CAME TO WORK HERE IN 2021.
THEY ARE 30-YEAR-OLD WOODEN POLES IN THE GROUND.
THERE'S EIGHT OF THEM. THEY ARE A SAFETY HAZARD WAITING TO HAPPEN.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF YOU SAW THE FIVE POLES THAT BLEW OVER ACROSS FROM THE NEW CARAWAY GLASS ON PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE LAST WEEK, BUT THAT IS THE VISION I HAVE OF COMING INTO WORK ONE DAY AS ONE OF THOSE POLES BLOWN OVER.
DURING THE SEASON, AFTER THE SEASON, DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, IN A HURRICANE WHEN NOBODY'S ON THE BUILDING, THEY ARE 30 PLUS YEAR OLD WOODEN POLES.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. WEBB, THERE ARE LOTS OF PROJECTS WE NEED TO GET ACCOMPLISHED IN THE SCHOOL DIVISION MOVING FORWARD.
THE BOARD PUT SAFETY AND SECURITY WITH THE OBJECT DETECTORS AS THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
THEREFORE, THERE'S A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY THAT IS COMMITTED TO THAT.
>> I ALSO KNOW YOUR STUDENT COUNT IS STILL DROPPING.
>> THE VEHICLES THAT I REFER TO.
> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SHIFT GEARS ON YOU, THE STUDENT COUNT, BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT'S BEING REQUESTED AT A LATER DATE, WHICH IS WHAT TO THE TUNE OF ALMOST 3 MILLION EXTRA COMPARED TO WHAT WE FUND YOU AFTER THE LAST 2, 3 YEARS BASED ON A MODIFIED MOU.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BACK TO WHAT SHE SAID, WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING IS, YOU'RE ASKING FOR LATITUDE ON THESE ITEMS ON HERE.
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THE ONLY REASON YOU'D HAVE TO SHIFT GEARS ON ANYTHING ON THIS LIST BASED ON THE TWO PLUS MILLION YOU WANT IS IF THE PRICE INCREASES OR DECREASES.
>> BETWEEN THE AWNINGS. RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT ON HERE, WITH CURRENT PRICING 60, 90 DAYS OLD.
IT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST.
>> I CAN'T SAY THAT WITH COMPLETE HONESTY, AND THE REASON THAT I ASKED FOR THAT MEETING WITH MISS JURY THIS MORNING, ONE OF THE PROJECTS ON HERE IS $52,900 FOR NORTH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE QUOTE WAS RECEIVED TO REPLACE THE CAFETERIA LIGHTS, WHICH IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR PROBLEMS ARE.
THEY'RE DIM. THEY'RE NOT WORKING.
THEY'RE CONTROLLED THROUGH A SYSTEM THAT ALSO CONTROLS THE STAGE LIGHTING.
SO IF YOU REPLACE THE CONTROLS, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE LIGHTS.
IF YOU REPLACE THE LIGHTS, THEY HAVE TO MATCH WITH THE CONTROLS.
WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THAT QUOTE WAS RECEIVED EARLIER THIS YEAR OR END OF LAST YEAR, THE GYM LIGHTS WERE NOT INCLUDED.
AND WHEN THE CONTRACTOR CAME OUT TO FINALIZE THE QUOTE FOR US, HE NOTICED THAT THE GYM LIGHTS ARE PART OF THE PACKAGE.
SO THAT QUOTE IS GOING TO GO UP.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR LATITUDE ON IS WE WOULD PURCHASE ONE LESS VEHICLE OR WE WOULD NOT PURCHASE THE TRACTOR TO MAKE THE LIGHT PROJECT WHOLE.
WE WOULD NOT BE ASKING FOR ANY MORE MONEY WHATSOEVER.
IF IT COMES DOWN TO WHERE MR. WEBB, WE NEED TO COME OVER HERE EVERY TIME WE NEED TO MOVE MONEY AROUND WITHIN THAT BUDGET, MUCH LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THEN WE CAN DO THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING TO HIDE. WE WANT TO BE 100% TRANSPARENT.
THERE IS NO EXTRA MONEY BEING REQUESTED.
IT'S JUST IF WE COME ACROSS SOME OF THE HIGHER RANKING PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO GET COMPLETED.
THE LIGHTS IN THE SCHOOL, THE FRONT DOORS OF MORE THAT DON'T LATCH ON THEIR OWN ANYMORE.
ALL OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, WHEN WE GET TO WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY FUND THIS REALISTICALLY THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL, IF NOT LATER, THEN PRICING HAS INCREASED.
WE ARE PREPARED TO CUT SOME THINGS OFF OF THAT BUDGET WHILE STAYING IN THE BUDGET.
>> WHERE DID THIS TOTAL AMOUNT, WHAT BUCKETS DOES THIS TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY COME FROM THAT YOU'RE ASKING TO CARRY OVER? NOT JUST ONE BUCKET. I HAD TO COME OUT OF MORE THAN ONE CATEGORY, RIGHT?
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>> THIS ACTUALLY WAS MONEY THAT WAS UNEXPENDED LAST FISCAL YEAR.
IT'S JUST EXCESS REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURE.
>> AND BECAUSE WE WERE ON THE CATEGORICAL SPINNING TO YOUR POINT, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO JUST MOVE IT FROM IF IT WAS LEFT OVER IN INSTRUCTION, IT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE MOVED TO OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE TO REPLACE SOFTBALL FIELD LIGHTS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BECAUSE NOBODY CAME OVER TO MAKE THOSE REQUESTS THEN.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO TRAP YOU, BUT I WATCHED MOST OF ALL THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.
IN ONE PARTICULAR ONE I WATCHED, YOUR FORMER FINANCE DIRECTOR MADE A STATEMENT THAT YOU ALL DIDN'T HAVE $30,000 FOR MUSICAL EQUIPMENT, BUT YOU GAVE STIPENDS OR BONUSES TO ALL THE TEACHERS.
THE LAST QUESTION I GOT FOR YOU?
>> I'VE TRIED TO FIND IT. YOUR FORMER SUPERINTENDENT WAS STATED AT THE LAST [NOISE] THE LAST ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID OUT.
WHAT CATEGORY DID THAT COME OUT OF OR WOULD IT HAVE COME OUT OF?
>> COULD YOU ASK THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME.
>> YOUR LAST FORMER SUPERINTENDENT.
>> HER CONTRACT HAS BEEN PAID OUT THROUGH 2025 BASED ON HER CONTRACT.
WHERE DID THAT MONEY COME FROM?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO DIVERT AND ASK DR. LYLE TO ANSWER THAT IF HE'S AWARE, BECAUSE HE WASN'T THERE EITHER.
IF NOT, WE'D HAVE TO GET YOU AN ANSWER FROM A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER OR THE SCHOOL BOARD OR FINANCE TEAM.
I, SIR, I'M ON THE OPERATION SIDE.
I DON'T DIVE INTO THE BUDGET OF THAT.
>> WELL, DR. LYLE WAS AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING. ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR.
THE QUESTION WAS POSED TO ME, WHAT ARE YOU GOT TO DO TO GET BACK IN A GOOD GRACES? IT'S NOT ABOUT GETTING BACK IN GOOD GRACES.
IT'S ABOUT BEING TRANSPARENT, SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
THERE'S BEEN OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED PRIOR TO YOU.
THAT WE'RE TAKEN OFF A CIP LIST.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT ON IT, AND IT WAS NEVER APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.
[NOISE] WE CATCH A LOT OF HELL OVER THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO HELL ABOUT IT.
BUT I AM ONE OF THE VOTES UP HERE, AND I DAMN, WELL, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING AND WHAT IT'S BEING UTILIZED FOR, SO WE CAN AT LEAST EXPLAIN IT WHETHER 50% OF THE CITIZENS GO TO RESPECT IT OR NOT.
>> YES, SIR. WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET A DIRECT 100% ACCURATE RESPONSE TO MR. STOKE AND HIS JURY TOMORROW ON HOW THAT PAYOUT WAS FUNDED AND THEY CAN FORWARD IT TO ALL FIVE OF YOU, AND IT CAN BE DISSEMINATED TO THE PUBLIC, HOWEVER YOU WISH.
> THANK YOU. ALL I'D THE REST OF MY TIME BACK TO ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE TRACTOR.
YOU GOT TO HERE REPLACE A CURRENT MODEL TRACTOR 19E TRACTOR FOR THE AMOUNT OF $60,000.
I GUESS IT WAS LAST MONTH FOR 30 SOME THOUSAND DOLLAR FOR OUR REC DEPARTMENT.
WHAT TRACTOR ARE Y'ALL BUYING FOR $60,000 WERE PLOWING FIELDS NOW?
>> NO, SIR, MR. COX. THE RECOMMENDATION WAS SENT OVER BY THE OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT FOR, IT'S MORE OF A PERMANENT MID SIZED BACK HOE.
THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A BIT OF DEBATE WITHIN OUR TEAM ON WHETHER THE MIDSIZE BACK HOE WITH A PERMANENT FIXTURE ON THE BACK IS WARRANTED.
IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH TRACTORS I GREW UP IN SURREY COUNTY, ONCE YOU PUT A BACK HOE, EVEN IF IT'S A THREE POINT HITCH BACK HOE, IT NEVER COMES OFF.
IT'S MORE TROUBLE THAN IT'S WORTH.
THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON, WOULD WE BE BETTER SUITED TO SPEND THE BACK HOE PORTION OF THAT MONEY ON A BRUSH SWEEPER FOR THE FRONT TO HELP WITH ALL THE SNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
THAT IS A VERY HIGH END BUDGET FOR THAT TRACTOR, AND MOST LIKELY WE WILL NOT BE GOING TO BACK HOE SCENARIO, BECAUSE, AS YOU STATED, YOU CAN GET INTO A 40, 45 HORSE POWER TRACTOR FOR WELL UNDER $50,000 WITH ATTACHMENTS.
> I CURIOUS ON THAT. THIS OTHER ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE TO ANSWER THIS FOR ME OR NOT, BUT THE MOSLEY FACILITY STUDY.
GIVE ME A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT.
>> I WILL SPEAK TO IT THE BEST I CAN, MR. COX, IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE, DR. LYLE IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND MRS. CRIST, OR WE CAN ADD THAT TO YOUR RESPONSE FOR THE EMAIL TOMORROW.
THE MOSLEY STUDY AT THIS POINT IS TO GET US ON THE DRAWING BOARD WITH OUR ARCHITECTURE FIRM FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW HIGH SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY AND RENOVATING J J MORE MIDDLE SCHOOL TO ADD RESTROOMS TO THE SEA WING SO THAT IT COULD BE CONVERTED TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ONCE THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL WAS COMPLETED SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WE COULD PHASE OUT BEASLEY AT THAT TIME.
THERE'S LOTS OF REASONS FOR THAT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT COMMITTED TO EVEN HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS UNTIL 2027.
THIS IS JUST OUR BOARD TRYING TO GET A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE GAME.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THAT PROCESS IS A SEVEN TO TEN YEAR PROCESS BY OUR ARCHITECTS FROM WHEN WHEN YOU START DESIGN PHASE TO WHEN YOU ACTUALLY MOVE STUDENTS IN.
THE OTHER SIDE TO THAT, MR. COX, IS THERE IS STATE CONSTRUCTION GRANT MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW,
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AND IT'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY.IT WOULD BE 30% FOR OUR LOCALITY BASED ON COMPOSITE INDEX.
TO WHERE THEY WOULD FUND UP TO 30% OF THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
THERE'S TWO REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TO EVEN TO APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS.
NUMBER 1 IS RENDERINGS AND DRAWINGS OF WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT IS COMMITMENT FROM THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE US WITH A LETTER TO PUT IN OUR APPLICATION THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO HELPING US FUND THE BATHROOM PROJECT AT MORE OR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE WE CAN EVEN APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS.
THIS IS A STEPPING STONE IN PREPARING OURSELVES FOR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW HIGH SCHOOL, AND HOPEFULLY, THE RENOVATION OF J J MORE INTO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SO THAT WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CONSTRUCTED TO REPLACE BEASLEY.
>> WHAT HAPPENS TO J J MOOSTE?
>> THE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE PAST.
THERE'S NOTHING FIRM HERE. THERE'S NOTHING IN WRITING.
IT'S JUST THE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AS THE MOST FEASIBLE IS THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL BECOMES A NEW HIGH SCHOOL IS BUILT THAT WOULD HOUSE ALL OF OUR STUDENTS 9 THROUGH 12 AT A NEW LOCATION.
THE CURRENT HIGH SCHOOL WOULD THEN BECOME A TRADITIONAL MIDDLE SCHOOL OF SIX SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE, WHICH WOULD FREE UP CLEMENTS TO BECOME ANYTHING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD OR THE COUNTY CHOOSES.
THAT WOULD TURN J J MORE INTO THE FIFTH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WE WOULD HAVE TO REZONE THE ENTIRE COUNTY, AND BEASLEY WOULD BE CLOSED.
>> IT WOULD INCLUDE REZONING OF SOUTH, BUT SOUTH WOULD STILL FUNCTION AS ITS OWN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE REASON FOR THE MASS OF REZONING WOULD BE THE PROXIMITY, 2.5 MILES.
>> I THINK THAT WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY OUT FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING IS GOING TO COME FROM.
I KNOW THE SCHOOLS HAVE NEEDS.
WE'VE GOT A COURTHOUSE OVER HERE THAT NEEDS AN EXPANSION.
WE'VE GOT A POLICE HEADQUARTERS THAT'S BUSTING AT THE SCENES.
WE GOT A SOCIAL SERVICES BUILDING THAT'S BUSTING AT THE SCENES.
WE'VE GOT A HIGH SCHOOL THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU ON THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE TACKLING TAKING A LITTLE BITES FIRST INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TAKE THE WHOLE MEAL AT ONE TIME.
BECAUSE WE GO AND PAY FOR THIS STUDY TO LOOK AT THE BATHROOMS AND EVERYTHING AT MORE, ALONG WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL.
LET'S BE HONEST, BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT, THAT STUDY WON'T BE WORTH A DAMN.
WE GOT TO GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR ANOTHER ONE.
I'D RATHER SEE US TO A STUDY THAT MEETS THE IMMEDIATE NEED, WHICH IS A HIGH SCHOOL.
IN THAT WAY, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING TO WORK OFF OF.
DON'T KEEP LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD SO FAR BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS COUNTY LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW AND I'VE BEEN ON THE SCHOOL BOARD LONG TO KNOW, NEW SCHOOLS DON'T COME, BUT EVERY 12 OR 15 YEARS, IF YOU'RE LUCKY.
THAT'S NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHICH I NOW SET ON IT'S FUNDING.
TAX DOLLARS COME FROM THE TAXPAYERS AND THE TAXPAYERS DO NOT WANT TO SEE THEIR TAXES GO UP, CONTINUALLY GO UP FOR STUFF THAT WE NEED TO DO AT DIFFERENT PHASES, TAKE DIFFERENT STEPS TO DO IT.
THAT'S MY CONCERN ON THE TRACTOR WHICH YOU'VE ADDRESSED AND THEN THE FACILITY STUDY.
I HAVE HEARTBURN WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
>> TO MR. WEBB AND MR. COX'S POINT WITH THE LATITUDE.
THE MINDSET WITH THE TRACTOR AND THE LAWNMOWERS WERE THAT IF WE CAME DOWN ON THE TRACTOR CONSIDERABLY, WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED, WE WOULD PROBABLY ADD IN ANOTHER LAWN MOWER SO THAT THERE'S A ROTATION OF THOSE UNITS.
OUR GUYS ARE PUTTING 600-700 HOURS A SEASON ON THOSE UNITS. THEY RUN NON-STOP.
TO HAVE AN EXTRA ONE IN THE MIX THAT COULD BE WHILE ONE'S BEING SERVICED, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BEING USED OR THEY'RE PROPERLY SERVICED.
WE'RE NOT RUSHING TO GET HIM OUT OF THE DOOR, WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON WE WOULD ASK FOR THAT TYPE OF MOVEMENT WITHIN THAT LINE.
>> MRS. WAYMACK, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
>> CAN I JUST VOICE MINE REAL QUICK? MR. BARNES, I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.
WE JUST HAD THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
I THINK YOU WERE ON THAT CALL?
>> WE WERE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS REAPPROPRIATION OR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IN THAT DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE SCHOOLS WITH ADDITIONAL ROOF WORK.
IT WASN'T THE OTHER ITEM THAT'S AFTER THIS.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THAT MEETING WAS THE LIST THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN TO US INCLUDED THE THREE ROOFS OR ROOFS ON THE THREE SCHOOLS AND IT BUT IT'S NOT ON THIS.
I'M JUST SHARING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO.
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THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WE ADVERTISE, WE TRY TO BE AS SPECIFIC WITH WHAT WE'RE ADVERTISING SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS VERY KEEN AND AWARE OF WHEN THEY COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHAT THEY NEED TO SPEAK ON AND WHAT THE MONIES ARE BEING APPROPRIATED.I PERSONALLY THINK IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LATITUDE, THAT IT'S A REALLY GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO CHANGE SOME OF THAT, I WOULD SAY WE NOT DO AUTHORIZE THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW TO GIVE YOU, THE SCHOOL BOARD OR DR. LYLE OR WHOEVER ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THE LIST AND REALLY DECIDE DO YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS SO THAT WE CAN THEN ADVERTISE IT? I DON'T THINK THIS BOARD HAS A PROBLEM ADVERTISING IT.
IT'S JUST THAT WE WANT IT TO BE AS CORRECT AS POSSIBLE FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO SEE WHEN IT COMES TO THE NIGHT OF THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT YES, THE OTHER THING IS, WE'RE TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT.
EVEN IF YOU CHANGE IT AND YOU ADVERTISE IT AND YOU GET DOWN THE ROAD LATER, IT NEEDS TO SWITCH CATEGORIES, YES, IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US.
THAT WAS PURPOSELY DONE SO THAT WE COULD PUT THIS OUT IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC BEING TRANSPARENT WITH HOW MONIES ARE BEING MOVED AROUND.
IT WAS NOT THAT TRANSPARENT BEFORE.
>> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC, WHETHER IT'S OVER ON THIS SIDE OR ON THE SCHOOL DIVISION SIDE.
>> TO YOUR POINT, MR. BROWN, IF THE BOARD'S DESIRE TONIGHT IS FOR US TO TAKE BACK THE CONCERNS OF MR. COX AND MR. WEBB WITH WHERE THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED AND IS THAT WHERE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE, AND THE BOARD DOES NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PUNT IT DOWN THE ROAD UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING FOR APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WOULD ASK YOU FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THE ROOFING PROJECT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING.
THE DISCUSSION WE HAD THURSDAY NIGHT ABOUT THE ROOFING PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN COMPLETED OR THE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CHIP AWAY AT NEXT.
>> I HAD MENTIONED TO YOU THE CONCERN I KNEW OF SOME CONCERN ON OUR BOARD BECAUSE THERE WERE ROOFING PROJECTS IN THE PAST, AND WE WERE NEVER TOLD THAT THEY WERE COMPLETED.
AS FAR AS WE KNEW THEY WERE OUTSTANDING, YOU DID SHARE WITH MRS. WAYMACK AND I ON THAT CALL THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME COMPLETED.
BUT THERE WAS ALSO NOW ADDITIONAL ROOF WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
BUT WE WERE ALL IN THE CONTEXT OF TALKING ABOUT THIS REQUEST.
THAT'S WHY I WAS TYING IT TO THIS.
>> I DID SEND A FOLLOW-UP E-MAIL THAT EVENING TO MR. STOKE AND MISS JURY, SUMMARIZING THE FOUR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED MOST RECENTLY WITH THE POT OF MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, ALONG WITH OTHER ER FUNDING THAT COVERED THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULAR SUPER DIRE LEAKING CONCERNS IN OUR BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW.
THE GYM ROOF AT BEASLEY IS PROBABLY NUMBER 1 IN THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET.
WE DO GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT JJ MORE'S ROOF, BUT ACCORDING, PER OUR ROOFING CONSULTANT, THAT ROOF WAS NEVER PROPERLY PUT ON AND FIVE YEARS AGO, THE QUOTE WAS $5,000,000 TO REPLACE IT.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT ON THIS LIST.
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 27 YEARS OLD TO START WITH AND IT SHOULD BE A 50-YEAR STANDING SCENE METAL ROOF.
WE DO HAVE TO SEND THE ROOFING CONTRACTOR OVER THERE TO PATCH LEAKS, BUT THERE'S NOTHING SO DIRE OVER THERE THAT WE'RE PUTTING BUCKETS OUT EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
WIND-DRIVEN RAINS. YES, WE DO HAVE TO PUT SOME BUCKETS OUT.
WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME COMPLETIONS.
THE REST OF THE SIX NEEDS OR CURRENT NEEDS, AS LONG AS THE CIP PLAN WERE SET IN PLACE BY THE ROOFING CONSULTANT JUST PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL IN THE SCHOOL DIVISION?
>> IT'S A WORKING DOCUMENT THAT IS WHAT I WAS GIVEN TO START OFF WITH WHEN I GOT IT.
>> MR. WEBB, I KNEW YOU HAD ASKED TO BE RECOGNIZED AGAIN.
>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. I'M GOING TO FINE-TUNE THIS THING A LITTLE BIT.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MINOR ROOF LEAK, WHETHER IT RAINS HARD OR IT RAINS LIGHT OR WHETHER THE WIND'S BLOWING.
ONCE IT GETS PENETRATES THAT TOP MEMBRANE, IT'S GOING TO MIGRATE SOMEWHERE.
THAT SOMEWHERE COULD BE IN THE WALLS, COULD STAY IN INSULATION AND YOU COULD ALSO START CREATING.
I HATE TO SAY THIS WORD BECAUSE I WON'T TO PUT EVERYBODY OFF IN A PANIC.
MOLD. MOLD ISSUES, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE IT FOR A WHILE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOWS UP AFTER THE FACT.
IF A CONTRACTOR CONTINUE TO TELL YOU THAT, I DON'T CARE IF YOU USE MY NAME, YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER CONTRACTOR.
I DEAL WITH THEM ALL THE TIME TO DEAL WITH THE SAME TYPE OF ROOFS YOU'VE GOT ON THESE BUILDINGS HERE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXACTLY WHICH SCHOOLS HAVE LEAKS.
I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE MINOR OR WHICH YOU CONSIDER MAJOR OR IF WE HAVE A HAIL STORM AND WHAT THE PRIORITY IS ON THEM AND WHAT THE TOTAL COST OF IT IS.
BECAUSE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S NEEDS AND SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE MAYBE COULD POSSIBLY BE WANTS.
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WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDINGS.WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER $3,050 MILLION TO THROW OUT AT ANOTHER SCHOOL AND NOW IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE THAN $50 MILLION WITH THE WAY THE DOLLARS BEING SUCKED UP AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNTIL 2027.
TO MR. COX'S POINT, THE STUDIES AND ALL MAY BE AN ERA BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE WORTH THE PAPERS WRITTEN ON BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE.
TO ME, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, LET'S FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN FIX NOW AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
BECAUSE, TRUST ME, WE HAVE GOT SOME DECENT BUILDINGS CONSIDERED TO SOME OF THE LOCATIONS I TRAVEL THROUGH.
YOU GET UP AROUND WEST VIRGINIA, SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES, NOT KNOCKING THEM.
THEY'RE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THEY HAVE.
BUT SOME OF THOSE SCHOOL BUILDINGS I'VE BEEN UP THERE ARE REALLY GOOD SHAPE FOR BEING 50, 55 YEARS OLD.
>> I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THOUGH, PLEASE UNDERSTAND MY COMMENTS EARLIER.
I AM NOT NEGATING THE FACT THAT SECURITY ISN'T A HIGH PRIORITY.
IT IS. IN THIS DAY AND TIME, I GET WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING WITH THE SCANNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER ITEMS ON HERE THAT IN FLOYD'S PERSONAL OPINION.
I THINK THAT THE ROOFS OUTRANK MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS ON HERE.
I DON'T LIVE WHAT YOU LIVE EVERY DAY.
I CAN ONLY GIVE YOU MY OPINION BASED ON LOOKING ON A LIST.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY WALKING OUT THIS ROOM SAYING AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD IS AGAINST PROVIDING THE BEST TYPE OF SECURITY THAT'S NEEDED IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION TODAY.
I DON'T WANT ANYONE LEAVING OUT HERE SAYING THE BOARD WAS TALKING ABOUT FIXING THE ROOFS AND NOT DOING SECURITY. NO.
>> I'M JUST SAYING I GOT SECURITY.
JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT CLEAR THE NIGHT.
>> I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL STICKER SHOCK.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW HIGH SCHOOL WE'RE TALKING WORTH OF $100 MILLION.
>> WELL, WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING THAT NIGHT AND WE WERE TALKING, I'VE HEARD THE ESTIMATES BEING SOMEWHERE AROUND 100-150 MILLION FOR A BRAND NEW HIGH SCHOOL.
THEN IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING ALL OF THESE OTHER CHANGES, THEY ALL HAVE TO BE DONE WITHIN SOME TYPE OF TIME FRAME TO MAKE ALL OF THIS FIT.
WE COULD BE REALLY TALKING $250,000,000 TO DO IT ALL.
ONLY STATEMENT I MADE, JUST, BOARD MEMBERS, SO YOU KNOW, I JUST SAID, BASED ON WHAT INFORMATION WE'VE GOTTEN FROM MISS JURY, 2027 WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WOULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE ENOUGH DEBT WAS ROLLING OFF THAT WE COULD LOOK AT DOING A BORROWING.
I JUST MADE A STATEMENT ON THAT CALL THAT NIGHT.
THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IN 2027, WE'RE GOING TO BE PURCHASING A NEW SCHOOL.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND WHAT MONIES WE NEED TO BORROW FOR.
I JUST WANT THE BOARD MEMBERS AND NO, THAT WAS THE AND MR. BARNES WAS IN THAT MEETING.
THAT WAS MY STATEMENT NOT TO MAKE ANYBODY UPSET.
>> I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY STUDENTS, MR. COX, THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL IN CHESTERFIELD IS OUT IN MOSLEY WAY, BUT THE BID CAME IN AT 160 MILLION.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IT'S AT LEAST 2000 IF NOT 2,400.
>> AGAIN, I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I WAS ACCUSED LAST YEAR OF TURNING MY BACK ON THE SCHOOLS.
IT'S NOT THAT. I DID SERVE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR 16 YEARS.
THE SCHOOLS ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
THE SCHOOLS PUT ME WHERE I THINK I'M AT TODAY IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE.
I WANT TO SEE THE SCHOOLS GET WHAT THEY NEED.
FUNDED THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE FUNDED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IT'S COUNTY TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE GUYS ARE SAYING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HEARING THE SAME THING.
WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM? WHERE DID THIS MONEY GO? HOW MUCH WAS THIS? HOW MUCH WAS THAT? WE JUST NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT ONLY IN OUR EXPENDITURES BUT AS EXPENDITURES TOO.
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE MONEY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO.
WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP THE SCHOOLS, I WANT TO DO IT, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE WITHIN REASON.
>> OKAY, BOARD MEMBERS, WE NEED TO LET FOLKS KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE.
THIS IS BY THE PASSING TO APPROVE AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BASED ON THIS APPROPRIATION. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE?
>> MR. CHAIR. SOMEBODY ELSE GETTING READY TO SPEAK.
>> MR. CHAIR, I THINK IT'D BE PRUDENT TO TURN AROUND AND POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE CAN GET BETTER INFORMATION AND GET EVERYTHING ROLLED UP BEFORE WE PUT A PUBLIC HEARING OUT.
WE PUT A PUBLIC HEARING OUT NOW WITH THIS, AND THEN IT CHANGES.
IT MAKES IT APPEAR PERCEPTUALLY THAT WE WERE EITHER TRYING TO SLIDE OF A HAND OR TRY TO HIDE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN UP FRONT.
EITHER WAY WE CAN'T WIN AND THE PUBLIC I DON'T BLAME FOR NOT ACCEPTING IT.
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BE HONEST WITH YOU.>> WHEN WOULD LET'S COME BACK BECAUSE THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS MOTION?
>> WELL, WE CAN GET TO ALL THE INFORMATION WE JUST ASKED FOR SO WE CAN TALK APPLES TO APPLES AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> I BELIEVE OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING IS 17TH OF MARCH. DEFINITELY NOT BEFORE THEN.
>> THAT'LL PUT US INTO THE LAST MEETING IN MARCH TO COME BACK FOR THIS TO ALLOW ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO MEET.
THAT REALLY ONLY GOING TO GIVE US ABOUT A WEEK IN BETWEEN.
>> WELL, IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TIME TO ALLOW US TO LOOK AT IT SO IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO OFFER THE ANSWER.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO SEND IT OUT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO NEED TIME TO ADVERTISE IT TWICE.
>> WELL, I'M SAYING WE WOULD AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT THEN THE FIRST MEETING OF APRIL.
THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO US THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY HAS TO BE 30 DAYS.
>> IT SOUNDS REASONABLE YES, SIR. BECAUSE ONCE THE MONEY'S PUT INTO APPROPRIATED INTO THAT FUND FOR US TO SPEND, THE JUNE 30 DEADLINE IS.
>> THERE'S NO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECOND.
IT WAS MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECOND BY MR. COX THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE THIS ITEM.
IT WOULD COME BACK TO THIS BOARD FOR THE AUTHORIZATION THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH IS THE SECOND TUESDAY IN APRIL.
BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MISS WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> MOTION CARRIED. I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO STAY THERE FOR THIS NEXT ONE.
WHICH IS THE SCHOOL BUDGET TRANSFER.
>> YES, SIR GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
THERE ARE SOME EXISTING MONIES IN ALREADY APPROPRIATED SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECT CATEGORIES.
ONE IS THE MIDDLE ROAD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THERE WAS A BALANCE OF JUST OVER $25,000 REMAINING IN THAT PROJECT.
ALSO, THE SCHOOL RESTROOM AND LOCKER RENOVATION PROJECT HAD 62,569 78 REMAINING.
THE SCHOOL DIVISION HAS REQUESTED PERMISSION OR IS ASKING PERMISSION TO TRANSFER THOSE AMOUNTS INTO A SCHOOL ROOFING MAINTENANCE LINE ITEM THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
AGAIN, A REDUCTION FROM THE BALANCE OF THE MIDDLE ROAD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROJECT, 25,419 83 AND A SCHOOL RESTROOM AND LOCKER ROOM RENOVATION PROJECT OF 62,569 78 TO BE TRANSFERRED INTO A SCHOOL ROOFING MAINTENANCE LINE ITEM, TOTALLY, WHICH WOULD ADD TO IT 87,989.61.
>> WHAT I WOULD OFFER BOARD, IS THAT IF YOUR BOARD APPROVES THIS EVENING THE CONSOLIDATION OF THOSE FUNDS INTO THE ROOFING LINE, THAT WE WILL NOT COMMIT THEM TO ANY PROJECT UNTIL THE $2,000,000 IS APPROVED AND ALLOCATED.
IF OUR BOARD DECIDES TO CHANGE SOME OF THE FUNDING INITIATIVES OF $2,000,000 AND ALLOCATE IT TOWARDS ROOFING, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER $107,000 TO PUT TOWARDS THE PERTINENT ROOFING PROJECTS.
WE WERE INTENDING TO USE THIS TOWARDS PROJECTS AT BEASLEY, TWO SECTIONS OF BEASLEY'S ROOF, AND THE TRANSPORTATION OFFICE, WHICH IS LOCATED ACROSS FROM THE STADIUM, IS JUST A RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURAL ROOF BECAUSE THOSE WERE THE PROJECTS THAT THE COST FALLS IN THAT $107,000, WHICH THIS TOTALS.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE PRUDENT IF YOU ALL APPROVED IT TONIGHT IF WE JUST AGREED THAT WE WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD ON ANY ROOFING PROJECTS UNTIL THE FINAL DECISION IS MADE ON THE $2,000,000, WHICH WE WILL ALSO INCORPORATE THE $107,000 SO THAT WE CAN GARNER MORE ROOFING.
WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THE 664.
WE NEED TO DO THE REST OF BEASLEY, BECAUSE ABOUT 60% OF IT IS DONE.
IF WE TAKE OUT TWO PROJECTS OR TWO COUPLE OF ITEMS OUT OF THE TWO MILLION AND ADD $107,000, BECAUSE IT WOULD GO IN THE SAME LINE. CORRECT?
>> IT COULD GO INTO THAT LINE, THEN WE COULD TACKLE A MUCH LARGER ROOFING PROJECT.
>> ALL DUE RESPECT ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK FOR YOUR BOARD?
>> I'M NOT. NO, SIR. BUT THAT IS INFORMATION THAT I WOULD TAKE BACK TO THEM.
I THINK THE APPROVAL TONIGHT IS JUST THAT IT'S GOING INTO THE ROOFING LINE.
IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WE CAN BRING IT ALL BACK IN TWO WEEKS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE OFFERING NOT TO COMMIT TO SPENDING THAT $107,000 TOMORROW MORNING, IT REALLY COULD GO EITHER WAY, AND BE PERFECTLY FINE.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT AND BRING IT ALL BACK AT ONE TIME, SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING,
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WHAT LINE ITEM IS GOING, AND WHAT BUILDING IT'S GOING TO.>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A COMMENT?
I'M GOING TO GO OFF WHAT MR. WEBB JUST SAID.
THE MAN RIGHT THERE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION FOR THAT BOARD.
TWO PEOPLE FROM THIS BOARD AND TWO PEOPLE FROM THAT BOARD CAN'T MAKE A DECISION.
>> I'VE SAID IT SINCE A YEAR AGO, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING.
THEIR BOARD AND OUR BOARD AND DISCUSS THE FUTURE OF WHAT WE SEE, WHAT THEY SEE, AND TRY TO BUILD A 5-10 YEAR PLAN.
TO DO THESE SCHOOLS, TO DO THIS.
WE'RE NOT WASTING MONEY ON STUDIES, AND WE'RE NOT WASTING MONEY ON THINGS THAT THIS BOARD DOESN'T AGREE WITH OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS ON IT.
>> I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO YOUR STATEMENT.
WHEN WE HAVE THESE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR MEETINGS, THERE ARE NO DECISIONS THAT'S BEING AGREED UPON, OR IT'S JUST DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE AS TWO PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, WE CANNOT SPEAK, AND WE HAVE SAID THAT CLEARLY IN THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE CANNOT SPEAK FOR OUR ENTIRE BOARD.
I DON'T HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THE FULL MEETINGS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE MEETINGS THAT THEY BRING INFORMATION TO US, AND WE TRY TO SHARE THE FIRST MEETING THERE WASN'T ANYTHING REALLY TO BRING BACK.
>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU.
>> I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING. I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT HERE.
>> YOU POINTED ME OR POINTED HIM?
>> NO, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, LET'S DO IT AFTER THE MEETING.
I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT IN THE PUBLIC.
>> OKAY. AGAIN, THE TOPIC AT HAND RIGHT NOW IS, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS REQUEST TO DO THE TRANSFER? YOU CAN EITHER VOTE ON IT TONIGHT OR YOU COULD POSTPONE THIS TO COME BACK WITH THE SAME TIME FRAME AS THE OTHERS.
>> THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
>> JUST SO I CAN GO BACK TO OUR BOARD.
IS Y'ALL'S REQUEST, YOU'RE TELLING US WHAT TO DO WITH THE TWO MILLION?
>> NO, YOU CAN GO AHEAD FIRST.
>> JUST SO I KNOW [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU WANT CLARITY ON EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING WITH THIS.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CLARITY IS ON THE ROOFING. DO YOU HAVE LEAKS? I'VE ALREADY MADE THE STATEMENT PUBLICLY.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SMALL LEAK OR A MAJOR LEAK.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IF IT RAINS REAL HARD, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT BIGGER LEAK THAN IT IS WHEN IT'S JUST DRIZZLING.
BUT IT ALL MIGRATES SOMEWHERE, AND THE BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT FALLS.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR MONEY TO BE TRANSFERRED INTO HERE, BUT WHAT SCHOOL IS IT GOING TO? WHAT ARE YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES? HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAINTAIN THESE BUILDINGS? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED THAT QUESTION FROM THE CITIZENS.
>> NO I UNDERSTAND THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT MEANS YOUR MONEY YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT [OVERLAPPING].
BUT IT OUGHT TO BE IN A LINE ITEM.
THE REASON WE STARTED DOING THIS FOUR YEARS AGO, MS. CRIST, ONCE IT'S PUT IN THAT LINE ITEM, IT'S GOT TO BE SPENT ON THAT PROJECT.
THEN ONCE IT'S DONE, THAT LADY RIGHT THERE PAYS IT.
THAT'S WHY WE STARTED DOING THAT, JUST SO WE COULD TRACK IT, AND THE CITIZENS SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO TELL YOU WHAT TO SPEND IT ON.
WE DO NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.
WHERE I THINK THE RUB IS HERE IS THAT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CLARITY AROUND THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE CLARITY ON.
>> I WAS PART OF THE BOARD THAT BUILT IT.
I'M MORE THAN WILLING IF THERE IS A CERTAIN QUESTION AS FAR AS OBJECT DETECTORS, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE TAKING THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FROM US, SO THAT LEAVES.
>> NO, I DIDN'T SAY WE WERE TAKING THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
>> IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY GOING.
>> I GAVE YOU MY OPINION THAT NIGHT ABOUT HOW I FELT ABOUT SWORN POLICE OFFICERS BEING SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS.
>> BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SSOS OR HIRE RETIRED POLICE OFFICERS.
THAT WASN'T FLOYD BROWN'S PERSONAL OPINION.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M PART OF THAT.
AS A BOARD, WE HAD AGREED TO TAKE IT A NEXT STEP TO ENSURE OBJECT DETECTORS ARE IN OUR SCHOOLS.
YES, WE FELT THAT WAS OUR NUMBER 1 PRIORITY WHICH IS OUT THERE.
>> WE'RE NOT QUESTIONING, SHOULD THAT BE YOUR NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.
BUT PRIOR TO YOU GETTING ON THIS BOARD, WE HAVE HEARD FOR YEARS ABOUT ROOFING ISSUES AT SCHOOL, AND IN THE LAST CHAIR, VICE CHAIR MEETING THAT MR. WEBB AND I SAT IN, AS HIM BEING THE CHAIR, AND HE ASKED THAT NIGHT ABOUT THE STATUS OF THAT.
IT WAS A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHT LOOK.
DR. LYLE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN. HE JUST CAME IN.
>> BUT PEOPLE FROM YOUR SCHOOL BOARD WERE NOT EVEN AWARE THAT THERE WERE ROOF ISSUES.
I THINK WHAT'S BEING SAID HERE IS THERE'S BEEN SOME OUTSTANDING STUFF FOR A LONG TIME.
WHERE IS THAT FALLING IN THE HOLE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
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>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. JUST WHAT I'M SAYING, THERE'S FIVE OF US.
OBVIOUSLY, THREE, AND I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL ARE SAYING ROOFING IS NOW A PRIORITY.
I THINK AS FIVE BOARD MEMBERS, WHEN WE SAT, ROOFING DIDN'T MEET THE LIST OF WHAT WE WANTED TO SPEND THE $2,000,000 ON.
WE WANTED TO GO A SAFETY APPROACH.
MR. BARNES HAD THE REMAINING FROM THE OTHER PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO START THE OTHER TWO ROOFING, THEY HAVE A PLAN.
WHAT DO I NEED TO GO BACK TO OUR BOARD AND INFORM THEM.
>> THE REASON WHY I THINK THE LAST ITEM WAS POSTPONED WAS MORE BECAUSE OF THE STATEMENT OF IS THERE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN WHAT'S ON THAT LIST TO BE ADVERTISED.
WE'RE SAYING THAT LIST WHEN IT'S ADVERTISED IF YOU WANT THREE TRACTORS, THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD SAY.
NOT IT'S THREE, BUT IT COULD CHANGE TO TWO.
WE CAN'T PUBLICIZE THAT AUTHORIZATION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE TRY TO PUT OUT THERE AS CLOSE TO WHAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE EXPECTING.
IF I'M CLEAR, IF I'M CORRECT WITH WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT WAS TO PUSH BACK FROM THE COMMENT THAT WE GOT EARLIER THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGING BECAUSE OF PRICING.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT TAKE OFF THE LIST PERIOD.
I THINK WHAT MR. WEBB AND OTHERS WERE REJECTING WAS THEIR FEELING ON, WHERE ARE THE SCHOOLS ON SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT FOR YEARS.
WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES SHOULD BE, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO, BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN IDEA OF WHAT PRIORITY IS.
BUT IT'S FIVE MEMBERS ON YOUR BOARD.
YOU'RE ONE OF THEM, WHERE YOU GUYS WORKING WITH WHOMEVER, MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
>> BUT THE PUSHBACK ON THE FIRST ITEM WAS BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS SHEET. [OVERLAPPING].
>> [OVERLAPPING] IT SHOULD BE FINALIZING.
YOU MAY EVEN HAVE TO REACH OUT AND GET UPDATED QUOTES TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN DO ONE TRACTOR IN THIS OR TWO TRACTORS IN THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT.
>> YOU'RE 100% CLEAR. YES, SIR.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
>> I GOT ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY.
>> WAIT A MINUTE, AND I'LL TURN TO YOU.
>> MS. CRIST, YOU CAN DO ONE THING FOR ME, AND YOU USE MY NAME.
I SEE EVERYTHING ON THAT LIST.
BUT THE AVERAGE INDIVIDUAL, I'M SAYING AVERAGE IS NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING ON THAT LIST, AND ROOFS NOT BE A PRIORITY.
THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME. HE'S RIGHT.
IT'S Y'ALLS MONEY. WE CAN REQUIRE CERTAIN THINGS, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD SELL TRYING TO EXPLAIN HOW TAKING CARE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THE KIDS AND THE TEACHERS ARE IN DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND LETTING IT GET TO POTENTIAL ISSUE TO WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE WALTON AGAIN.
THAT SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT EVERYBODY A LESSON WITH THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE SPENT TRYING TO GET AROUND THAT UNTIL WE COULD BUILD A NEW SCHOOL.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD A YEAR, A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
NEVER HAS ANYONE, AND THAT'S THE GOD'S HONEST TRUTH, CAME TO ME AND SAID, MS. CRIST, WE HAVE A LEAKING ROOF.
I HAVE SEEN FOR MYSELF, WHICH IS WHAT THEIR PROJECT OF THAT SIDE OF THE ROOF WAS COVERING.
OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANOTHER SCHOOL.
>> I'VE BEEN ON IT 10, AND TRUST ME I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT.
>> WELL, CAN YOU PLEASE ASK HIM TO REACH OUT TO ME.
I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO GO THROUGH A WALK IN THE SCHOOLS.
>> MS. CRIST, WE DO. TRUST ME.
I THINK EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD DOES.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THE CITIZENS GET UPSET, THE FIRST PERSON THEY CALL IS GOING TO BE A BOARD MEMBER BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT APPROPRIATE THE MONEY.
IT'S JUST A FACT [OVERLAPPING] THAT I'VE BEEN JUST TRYING TO DO IT FOR 10 YEARS.
IT DOESN'T HELP. I'LL KEEP DOING IT.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE OVER Y'ALLS JOB.
DON'T WANT Y'ALLS JOB. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS.
>> THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEATING ANYBODY UP.
WE JUST WANT MORE CLARITY ON THE LIST TO MAKE IT AS TRUE AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN AUTHORIZE IT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING ON THAT.
>> MR. COX, I THINK YOU HAD A STATEMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE BEFORE.
>> YES, SIR. MY QUESTION IS ON MR. BARNES, WHO IS Y'ALLS ROOFING CONSULTANT NOW?
>> IT'S MONARCH CONSULTING, APRIL MCKELVEY, I BELIEVE WAS HER NAME, BUT IT'S UP FOR BID RIGHT NOW.
>> MCKELVEY, YES. IT IS TIME FOR THAT TO BE REBID.
>> WE HAD A ROOFING PROJECT GOING WHEN I LEFT THE BOARD, AND WE HAD APRIL'S WAS SPEARHEADING THE ROOFING REPLACEMENT AND REPAIRS AS WE NEEDED THEM.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FELL APART DURING COVID.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, AND APRIL IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN WHAT SHE DOES.
I HOPE Y'ALL WILL FIND A WAY TO KEEP HER BECAUSE SHE'S NOT ONE YOU WANT TO GET AWAY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST FEMALE I'VE EVER SEEN WILL SLAP A LADDER
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UP ON SIDE OF A BUILDING AND LOOK AT A ROOF FOR YOU.>> IN MY TIME HERE, MR. COX, SINCE AUGUST OF 2021, THE ONLY ROOFING PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED IS ABOUT 60% OF CLEMENTS, AND APRIL DID LEAD US THROUGH THAT.
THIS LIST IS DERIVED FROM APRIL.
SHE'S GREAT FOR US, BUT UNDER PROCUREMENT, IT'S TIME TO.
>> LET ME GO BACK HERE BECAUSE WE HAD MR. WEBB WAS GETTING READY, I THINK TO PUT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
>> IN LIGHT OF THINGS, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS TO THE SAME DATE THAT'S APRIL 11TH.
>> THAT WE HAVE TO BE RESTED [OVERLAPPING] APRIL 8TH, WHEN THE INITIAL WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE INFORMATION COME BACK.
>> CASE HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. WEBB, AND IT'S BEEN SECOND BY MR. COX THAT THIS ITEM FOR THE TRANSFER WOULD BE POSTPONED ON THE SAME SCHEDULE TO COME BACK TO US ON APRIL THE 8TH, AND THEN WE WOULD ADDRESS BOTH OF THESE ON THAT DATE.
ARE YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? MS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. BARNES, PLEASE OUR APOLOGY, IF IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE NOT TRYING TO BEAT YOU UP.
>> I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
>> YES, SIR. LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE JOHN TYLER ALCOHOL SAFETY ACTION PROGRAM, AND IT'S A THREE YEAR TERM.
I THINK RIGHT NOW CHIEF EARLY SERVES ON THAT OR HIS TERM EXPIRED IN JANUARY, AND SO, BOARD MEMBERS, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO REAPPOINT HIM.
>> MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT HIM.
>> WE WERE JUST FIGURING YOU'D BE VOLUNTEER.
IT WAS MOVED BY WHO? YOU AND SECOND OVER HERE.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. COX AND SECOND BY MR. PUGH THAT WE WOULD REAPPOINT CHIEF EARLY BACK TO THIS ALCOHOL SAFETY ACTION PROGRAM.
YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. KNOTT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> MOTION CARRIED. NEXT I'D ASK FOR AN ADJOURNMENT FOR TONIGHT.
>> IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. PUGH AND SECOND BY MR. WEBB THAT WE WOULD ADJOURN AT THIS TIME.
MS. KNOTT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> YES. MEETING ADJOURNED.
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