Jul 09, 2024 Regular Meeting

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GOOD EVENING. I'LL CALL THE JULY 9TH MEETING BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TO ORDER.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO COME OUT ON THIS NICE, WARM, CRISP DAY.

NO PUN INTENDED.

MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MR. WEBB HERE, MR. BROWN. HERE, MR. COX HERE, MR. PUGH HERE.

MRS. WAYMACK, I'M HERE SPEAKING FROM MY HOME ON LAUREL SPRING ROAD.

AND IS THERE A MOTION TO ALLOW MRS. WAYMACK TO PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY FOR A MEDICAL REASON? I'LL MAKE A MOTION, SECOND.

GOT A MOTION AND SECOND, MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL .

MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. COX. YES, MR. PUGH. YES, MR. WEBB, YES.

[B. Closed Session]

I NEED A MOTION, PLEASE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE THAT THE BOARD GO INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2-3711A1 FOR THE DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF AN APPOINTMENT TO THE BRIGHTPOINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE ADVISORY BOARD AND THE APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD.

HAVE A SECOND, SECOND.

MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

SHORTLY. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MOVE THAT THE BOARD RECONVENE IN OPEN SESSION AND CERTIFY THAT ONLY MATTERS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED.

SECOND. MRS. KNOTT GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE INTO THE BUSINESS PORTION, WHICH IS MR.

[C. Business Meeting]

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING JUST SIMPLY TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, HEAVENLY FATHER, FOR ALLOWING US TO SEE YET ANOTHER DAY AND TO COME TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THE BUSINESS OF THIS COUNTY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE WE ASK BLESSINGS THIS EVENING FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT HAVE PROVIDED US THIS FREEDOM THAT WE IN THE UNITED STATES LIVE AND BREATHE AND AND RESPECT EACH AND EVERY DAY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO WATCH OVER ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING HERE IN THE COUNTY.

WE ASK YOU TO WATCH OVER OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS, OUR EMPLOYEES AND ALL THE CITIZENS HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK FOR A SPECIAL BLESSING PRAYER TONIGHT FOR OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AS HE WORKS DILIGENTLY EACH AND EVERY DAY TO KEEP PRINCE GEORGE BEING FIRST IN THE MINDS OF EVERYONE.

WE ASK ALL OF THIS THIS EVENING IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.

AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK.

MRS. KNOTT I DON'T THINK WE GOT ANY PUBLIC, MRS. KNOTT ON A PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE.

WE GOT ONE. OKAY.

I'M SORRY, I MISREAD MISSPOKE.

I'M READING THE WRONG PAGE.

PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

I WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING WITH THAT RESOLUTION FOR THE WASTEWATER THING.

I'M HOPING THAT THAT FAILED ATTEMPT TO COMMIT TO A WASTEWATER FACILITY WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING OR RESOURCE STUDY IS NEVER AGAIN REPEATED. IT APPEARS TO BE A GAME OF WHACK A MOLE, AND EACH NEW MOLE THAT POPS UP IS A LITTLE FURTHER FROM THE ORIGINAL TENT OF THAT YANCEY TRACT.

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SINCE THEN, IT'S MORPHED INTO CONVENIENCE CENTER WITH A DESIGN THAT WAS 65% COMPLETE.

PUMPING STATION WITH A DESIGN THAT WAS 90% COMPLETE AND A WASTEWATER FACILITY.

HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT ON THESE DESIGNS? HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, MILLIONS.

WHERE DO WE GET AN ACCOUNTING FOR THIS? WHERE THE NATURAL RESOURCE STUDIES THAT SHOW THE IMPACT TO THE SWAMP AND THE WATER TABLES.

TRAFFIC, PROPERTY VALUES.

SURELY THOSE EXIST.

I CAN'T FIND THEM.

WHERE CAN I REVIEW THE ENGINEERING DESIGNS? ALL I NEED IS PDFS.

I DON'T NEED ANYBODY TO PRINT THEM OUT FOR ME.

I JUST CAN'T FIND THEM ON THE WEBSITE ANYWHERE.

IF I NEED TO SUBMIT A FOIA, LET ME KNOW, BUT I DON'T APPEAR TO BE ABLE TO FIND THEM.

COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMP PLAN DEVELOPMENT NOW IS ENCOURAGING.

BEEN TO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, BUT A COMP PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE LAND USE MAPS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, COMMUNITY PLANNING INITIATIVES AND THEN GUIDE THE ORDINANCE AND THE ZONING MAPS.

HOW DOES A SHOTGUN APPROACH OF HIGH SCHOOL CONVENIENCE CENTER PUMP STATION WASTEWATER FIT ANY KIND OF PLAN? I DON'T SEE IT.

AND FRANKLY, THESE IDEAS, WITH THEIR EXPENSIVE ENGINEERING EXPENSE, ARE NOTHING I RECOGNIZE AS PLANNING, BUT MORE LIKE KNEE JERK REACTIONS.

I TRUST THIS WAS NOT AN INTENTIONAL ACT, BUT PUTTING INTO A RESOLUTION WITH BASICALLY ZERO WARNING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO AUTHORIZE, SORRY, AUTHORIZE A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE NEXT BULLET DIRECT THE STAFF TO TAKE WHATEVER MEASURES NECESSARY TO ALLOW FOR THE ENGINEERING AND PROCUREMENT COULD ONLY BE INTERPRETED ONE WAY.

THOSE WORDS HAVE A VERY CLEAR MEANING.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT WITHOUT A HEARING.

TO TRY AND PASS THIS HIGHLY INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING WAS, TO ME, CARELESS AND INCONSIDERATE.

DOING IT AS A LAST MINUTE ADD ON TO A RESOLUTION WITHOUT A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, EXCEPT FOR THIS, THREE MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING WE HOLD DEAR AS A SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.

ULTIMATELY, I'M GLAD IT WAS DECLINED BY THREE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD AND HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. QUIST. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? PLEASE COME UP AND SPEAK NOW.

GOOD EVENING BOARD.

MY NAME IS JUSTIN NOBLIN, 8724 CENTENNIAL ROAD.

AFTER WHAT JIM HAS SAID, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TOUCH ON THAT ANYMORE I THINK HE SAID EVERYTHING.

PERFECTLY FINE ON THAT.

I WOULD LIKE IF ANYBODY CAN IF MR. STOKES IS AVAILABLE, JUST AN UPDATE ON THE ASSESSMENT SITUATION.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A TON OF WORK GOING ON WITH THAT.

I KNOW VISION HAS COME IN AND HAD A DAUNTING TASK TO GET EVERYTHING BACK TO STATUS QUO.

I HADN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS, BUT I ALSO HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING POSITIVE.

IT'S BEEN CRICKETS ON THAT, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE BUSY.

SO I WANTED, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THAT THEY WOULD BE SAMPLING UP TO 10% OF THE PROPERTIES.

I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYBODY HAVING THEIR PROPERTY SAMPLED.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET, SO IN NO WAY COMPLAINING, JUST CURIOUS AS AS TO THE TRANSPARENCY OF IT AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT AND HOW THAT PROGRESS IS GOING, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT THE COUNTY HAS SPENT TO GET THIS RESOLVED.

ON TOP OF THAT I REACHED OUT TO MR. GRAVES TO LET HIM KNOW WITH THE CHICKEN SITUATION THAT FARM BUREAU.

I SPOKE TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WITH FARM BUREAU, AND THEY HAVE ALL AGREED THAT FARM BUREAU CAN HOST A TOWN HALL MEETING FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON THE ON THE CHICKEN SITUATION WITH THE RECODING OR, OR NEW LAWS THAT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT ON THAT, THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING.

AND TIM SAID THAT WHEN HE WAS READY FOR THAT, HE WOULD REACH OUT TO ME SO WE COULD GET THAT SQUARED AWAY.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GET RESOLVED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, AND WE CAN GET EVERYBODY BACK ON BOARD WITH THE WAY THAT, THE WAY THE CITIZENS FEEL THAT SHOULD BE. LAST I WOULD JUST ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT MR. QUIST JUST SPOKE ON AND WITH THE ASSESSMENTS, JUST GOOD TRANSPARENCY.

JUST IF THERE'S THINGS THAT THE CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED ON YOU KNOW, JUST GOOD TRANSPARENCY FROM THE COUNTY.

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I HATE SEEING PEOPLE HAVING TO GO FOIA REQUEST STUFF.

I THINK IT'S IT'S UNNECESSARY.

AND IT IT SHOWS LACK OF TRUST WITH OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

SO IF, IF WE CAN HAVE SOME PEOPLE REACH OUT AND PUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES TO REST, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S TIME.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. NOBLIN. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE APPROACH.

ONE MORE TIME ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE APPROACH.

SEEING NO ONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD.

NEXT WE HAVE ADOPTION OF AGENDA.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD ADOPT THE AGENDA AS SO PRINTED.

SECOND. MRS. KNOTT I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[D. Consent Agenda]

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[E. Comments]

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY COMING OUT.

I KNOW IT'S BRUTALLY HOT OUT THERE.

IT HAS BEEN BRUTALLY HOT.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE FOR A WHILE.

AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR EVENING ON A HOT EVENING AND COMING AND JOINING US, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

MR. PUGH. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

ALSO WANT TO THANK PRINCE GEORGE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR ASSISTING THE CITY OF PETERSBURG WITH A WATER MAIN BREAK OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS BY PROVIDING A TANKER.

AS SOME OF Y'ALL ARE AWARE, I BROUGHT UP A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE LAST MEETING.

OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH GETTING THE RESEARCH TO US SO WE CAN REVIEW EVERYTHING AND LOOK INTO IT.

SO I ASK THAT YOU BEAR WITH EVERYBODY, AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT HARD.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT, MR. BROWN. AGAIN, THANKS, EVERYONE, FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

I PERSONALLY WOULD WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO FOLKS PEOPLE THAT EMAILED ME OR CALLED ME.

I DID HAVE MY GLAUCOMA SURGERY ON JUNE THE 20TH, IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

MY PRESSURE BEFORE THE SURGERY WAS 25, WHICH IS NOT GOOD.

AFTER THE SURGERY, IT HAS GONE DOWN AS LOW AS 8.

AND SO NOW IT'S FLUCTUATING BETWEEN 8 AND 10, WHICH IS EXCELLENT.

THE DOCTOR HAS GIVEN ME A GOOD PROGNOSIS FOR GOING FORWARD.

SO AGAIN, I JUST ACTUALLY I WOKE UP THE NEXT DAY AND I COULD SEE BETTER THAN I HAD AFTER ALL OF THE SURGERIES I HAD.

SO IT WAS A VERY ENCOURAGING THING.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO CAUTION PEOPLE, JUST PLEASE GET YOUR EYES CHECKED.

YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME PREACH THAT ALL THE TIME, THAT THE ILLNESS WITH YOUR EYES ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO PAIN YOU, BUT THINGS LIKE CATARACT, GLAUCOMA, DETACHED RETINAS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

GLAUCOMA WILL NEVER, EVER BOTHER YOU ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO BLINDNESS.

SO I JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO GET YOUR EYES CHECKED.

THANK YOU.

MRS. WAYMACK.

NO COMMENT.

THANK YOU MA'AM. ALL RIGHT FROM MY PART, IT'S ALSO TO THANK YOU ALL, BUT I WANT TO ADD SOME CLARITY ON A FEW THINGS.

WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN PERCEIVED.

AND I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU YOU PERCEIVED IT THAT WAY.

AND IT GOT OFF TRACK REALLY, REALLY QUICK WAS WHEN IT CAME TO THE GRANT MONEY, WHICH WOULD HELP US COMPLETE THREE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED. WE ARE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS WITH WATER AND SEWER CAPABILITY.

TO ADD FUEL TO THAT WAS THE WASTEWATER PLANT WAS ADDED BY THE STATE AT THE LAST MINUTE.

WE DID NOT REQUEST THAT, I STILL AM A PROPONENT.

I THINK LONG TERM PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY COULD GAIN FROM HAVING ONE.

COULD WE BE IN CONTROL OF OUR OWN DESTINY VERSUS BEING DEPENDENT ON OTHER LOCALITIES FOR THE GROWTH AND WE CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT KIND OF GROWTH WE WANTED, BECAUSE GOOD, CLEAN INDUSTRY LIKE DATA CENTERS AND ALL, THEY TAKE A LOT OF WATER.

WATER BOTTLING PLANTS.

I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE OUR NEIGHBORS GOT ONE, 800,000 GALLONS A DAY.

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SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET OPPORTUNITIES TO GET GOOD, CLEAN INDUSTRY AND GET THE MACHINERY AND TOOL TAX TO HELP KEEP THE BURDEN OFF THE ROOFTOPS, UNLESS YOU CAN YOU CAN GET THAT IN THIS COUNTY.

AND WE NEED SOME OF IT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GROW LIKE CHESTERFIELD.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GROW LIKE CHESTERFIELD.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS TRACK IS TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO GROW WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA SO YOU CAN KEEP RURAL AREAS RURAL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE WATER AND SEWER.

YOU CAN'T PUT HOUSES ON A TWO ACRE LOT.

NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO WORK.

NOT ALL OF THEM ARE. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT MAY OR MAY NOT ALLOW A MOUND SYSTEM, AND THERE'S A COST TO A MOUND SYSTEM.

I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT AREN'T TOO HAPPY ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT PRETTY MUCH TRIPLED WHAT THEY'RE WELL AND SEPTIC WOULD BE, BUT THE LANE WOULDN'T PERK.

BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD BUILD ON IT.

SO THE MISCONCEPTION WHERE AND THEN THE FUEL WAS ADDED TO THE FIRE, THE INFORMATION WENT OUT, JUST LIKE I STATED LAST WEEK, I'M A MAN OF MY WORD IF I SAY I DO SOMETHING, I'LL DO IT. IF YOU ASK ME A QUESTION, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT'S ON MY MIND.

NOW, I APOLOGIZE UP FRONT BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT I SAY OR HOW I SAY IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE EXACTLY WHAT'S ON MY MIND IT'S GOING TO BE THE TRUTH AS I KNOW IT, AND I CHALLENGE ANYBODY IF THEY THINK I'M DOING OTHERWISE, FIND IT AND PROVE IT TO ME.

CALL ME OUT ON IT.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.

I GOT NINE YEARS OF RECORDS OF EVERYTHING I'VE SAT UP HERE AND SAID AND DONE, AND I DON'T THINK I'VE DEVIATED ONE IOTA FROM ANYTHING.

I'VE MADE TWO MISTAKES IN NINE YEARS, AND I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZED FOR BOTH OF THEM.

ONCE I GOT THE INFORMATION AND WAS CORRECTED, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.

NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

THE EXCEPTION IS YOU HAVE TO VERIFY YOUR FACTS AND MAKE SURE WHO'S TELLING WHAT AND WHAT THE TRUE INTENT IS.

TO SIT HERE AND READ A LETTER FROM A GENTLEMAN FROM ANOTHER LOCALITY THAT SAID THEY HAD THE WATER CAPACITY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ALL FINE AND GOOD.

FACT CHECK IS THAT PERSON DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT OR MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.

BUT I GUARANTEE YOU LAST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS TAKEN AS FACT, WASN'T IT? THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN MAKE THAT CALL IS THE CITY MANAGER.

THAT'S THE PERSON WE WERE WAITING TO GET FROM.

SO WE WERE NOT TRYING TO PLAY ANY GAMES AND JUST TRY TO HURRY UP AND DO SOMETHING AND THEN TRY TO, YOU KNOW, NO, WE COULDN'T HAVE IT AND FALL BACK.

WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET US AN ANSWER JUST AS SOON AS THEY CAN, BUT WE NEED TO ANSWER FROM THAT PERSON.

WE'VE GOT PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOING TO WANT TO BE PUT ON HOLD, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ROOM IN A COUPLE OF FORCE MAINS.

THE ONE GOING UP TOWARDS SOUTH CENTRAL WAS PUT IN TOO SMALL, PROBABLY FOR A REASON.

THAT'S MY GUESS.

NO FACT.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED BACK THEN TO STUN GROWTH.

WELL, GUESS WHAT? NOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE DOUBLE TO TRIPLE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE GROWTH JUST ON THAT END OF THE COUNTY WHEN WE GET THE MONEY TO DO IT.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I APOLOGIZE IF YOU TOOK IT WRONG.

I'M SORRY YOU'RE UPSET.

I STILL FEEL COMMITTED TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY AS A WHOLE, BOTH SIDES.

I WAS ELECTED BY DISTRICT TWO, BUT I STILL FEEL EVERY DECISION THIS BOARD MAKES IMPACTS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

IT'S NOT ONE DISTRICT OR THE OTHER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT. MR. STOKES, I'M GOING TO LET YOU FOLLOW UP WITH THAT ONE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, A COUPLE OF QUICK DATES.

SATURDAY, JULY 13TH HUNTER SAFETY COURSE, PARKS AND REC COMMUNITY CENTER, BEGINNING AT 8 A.M..

PRINCE GEORGE FARMER'S MARKET.

SATURDAY, JULY 13TH WILL BE THE CHRISTMAS IN JULY FROM 9 TO 1 SCOTT PARK.

MONDAY, JULY 15TH.

PRINCE GEORGE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING RIGHT HERE AT 6:30.

AND TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WE ARE HOSTING THE DIXIE SOFTBALL WORLD SERIES FOR TWO WEEKS.

THERE WILL BE A KICKOFF EVENT ON FRIDAY, JULY 19TH AND ANOTHER ONE ON FRIDAY, JULY 26TH.

WE ARE HOSTING FOUR SETS OF AGE GROUPS, TWO IN THE FIRST WEEK, TWO IN THE SECOND.

KICKOFFS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM, FOLLOWED BY EVENTS DOWN AT JJ MOORE SPORTS COMPLEX.

GAME TIMES VARY.

I DO WANT TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT UPON THE WHERE'S MR. NOBLIN, MR. NOBLIN. THE THE WEBSITE, THE NON-ASSESSMENT WEBSITE DEALING, DEVOTING TO PAGE TWO ISSUES.

FUNNY YOU SHOULD SAY THAT.

I KNOW OUR PIO, JACKIE LIPFORD AND KRISTEN PUDLOW ARE KIND OF WORKING ON THAT.

WE TESTED OUT THE FIRST THING WE HAD WAS THE TRAIN, REMEMBER THE TRAIN BLOCKAGE ISSUE? AND WE ACTUALLY CREATED A PAGE INSTRUCTING PEOPLE AND TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO REPORT AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE TRAIN BLOCKAGE ISSUE.

BUT WE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT COULD THAT BE EXPANDED TO.

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GOLF COURSE ROAD THE BRIDGE.

YOU KNOW, VDOT DOES HAVE A PAGE ON THAT.

THEY HAVE AN EXPLANATION PAGE ON EVERY PROJECT, BUT COULD WE, THE COUNTY HAVE A PAGE SORT OF GIVING UP TO DATE? AND IF THERE'S OTHER PROJECT IDEAS WE COULD TEST THEM OUT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.

ON THE ASSESSOR SIDE, I JUST QUICKLY WHAT I CAN THINK ABOUT TONIGHT.

THEY ARE HAVING MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH VISIONS WITH THE FULL VISION TEAM TO GO OVER THE PROCESS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT MAKING OUR BUILDING PERMITS AND ELECTRONIC PROCESS UPLOAD FROM DOWNSTAIRS INTO THE ASSESSMENT VISION SYSTEM, RIGHT NOW IT'S MANUAL. WE ALSO FIXING AND CREATING THE VISION SYSTEM AND TWEAKING IT OUT IN PREPARATION OF FY 26.

ON THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS, THEIR COMMERCIAL OUTREACH IS SUPPOSED TO BEGIN IN AUGUST.

SO IT'S WHEN THEY ASKED FOR THE THE INFORMATION REGARDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR OR SEE VISION IN THE COMMUNITY ASKING FOR INFORMATION AND INTERACTING.

AND ON THE WEBSITE, WE DID GET IT UP AND OPERATIONAL.

WE KNOW WE HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE APPARENTLY THE LAND VALUE LINE IS CALLED LAND USE.

AND NOT EVERYBODY LIKE I HAVE LAND USE, BUT I HAVE A QUARTER ACRE HOME, SO THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO RELABEL ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

THE BIG QUESTION COMING FOR THE BOARD IN THE FUTURE AND I'M TRYING TO GET VISION UP NOW IS ONE DO YOU WANT TO GO TO TWO YEARS REASSESSMENT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO TAKE UP.

DO YOU KNOW IF WE DO FY 26 IS THE NEXT ONE FY 28.

AND THEN THIRD PARTY OR IN-HOUSE THAT DECISION.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG DECISIONS COMING UP.

I'D LIKE TO GET VISION DOWN THE PATH A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

I'D LIKE TO GET THE SOFTWARE UP AND OPERATIONAL.

WE NEED THE SOFTWARE REGARDLESS IF WE GO THIRD PARTY OR IN-HOUSE.

BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, QUICK AND DIRTY ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SIR.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

[F. Public Hearings]

GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN WEBB MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE AND MRS. ERARD YOU HAVE A REQUEST TO CONDITIONALLY REZONE 3.07 ACRES FROM R-A ZONING TO B-1 ZONING.

OH, SORRY R-A AND B-1 ZONING TO JUST B-1 ZONING.

AND THIS IS FOR FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED BEHIND 5840 ALLIN ROAD HAS THREE TAX MAPS, NUMBER OF TWO OF THEM AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES THE PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR VILLAGE CENTER USES.

THIS IS A MAP SHOWING THE AERIAL VIEW AND THE LOCATION.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S BEHIND THOSE BUILDINGS ON COURTHOUSE ROAD NEAR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE CONNECTING WITH ALLIN ROAD AND SAWMILL ROAD IS THE ACCESS FOR THIS PARCEL.

HERE IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING HOW PART OF THIS PROPERTY TODAY IS ZONED B-1 AND PART OF IT IS ZONED R-A RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL. SO THERE'S A PORTION OF THREE PARCELS INVOLVED AND THE GOAL IS TO REZONE ALL OF THE AREA OUTLINED IN BLUE TO B-1, WITH A SINGLE SET OF PROFFERS FOR THAT AREA.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES THIS IS THIS AREA IS PLANNED FOR VILLAGE CENTER USES, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PLAT OF A PLAT SHOWING THAT THE THE AREA TO BE REZONED, WHICH IS OUTLINED.

IT'S THE SAME AREA THAT WE SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES.

SO THAT B-1 ZONE, PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE SAW IN RED ON THE ZONING MAP, THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY HAS EXISTING PROFFERED CONDITIONS, BASICALLY RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF THE PROPERTY FROM A 2002 REZONING CASE AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R-A, RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL. SO YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF OR, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE SETS OF RULES IN PLACE ON, ON THIS LAND.

AND THE GOAL WITH THIS REZONING IS TO GET ONE SET OF RULES IN PLACE ON THIS LAND AND ONE ZONING DISTRICT B-1.

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SO THAT THAT BOILS DOWN TO A REZONING REQUEST FOR 3.07 ACRES.

THE PROFFERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, THERE'S TWO PROFFERS.

ONE IS TO RESTRICT THE POSSIBLE USES OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED A LIST OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, AND THAT WOULD BE GENERALLY OFFICE AND RETAIL AND RESTAURANT TYPE USES.

THEY'VE PROFFERED A RESTRICTION ON THE MORE INTENSIVE THINGS LIKE A SHOPPING CENTER OR SOMETHING LARGER THAN THAT.

AND THIS IS AGAIN, LIMITED BY THE SIZE OF THIS PIECE OF LAND IS ONLY THREE, THREE ACRES KIND OF LIMITS WHAT CAN BE THERE.

I THINK, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY PROFFERED OUT GAS STATION.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS BEHIND EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS SO YOU COULD ANTICIPATE THE TYPE OF BUILDING THERE WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF IT ON COURTHOUSE ROAD.

THE OTHER PROFFER IS THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPED BUFFER BASICALLY TO PROVIDE SCREENING IN BETWEEN THE B-1 ZONED AREA AND ANY ADJACENT RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE APPLIED AT THE TIME THAT THEY SUBMIT A SITE PLAN FOR REVIEW WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

IF THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED, THE PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH ANY OF THE LISTED LAND USES IN THE PROFFER STATEMENT WHICH IS IN THE IN THE STAFF REPORT IN YOUR IN YOUR BOARD PACKET. AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S GENERALLY OFFICE RETAIL RESTAURANT TYPE USES AND STAFF NOTES THAT THIS REQUEST IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE SAW THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS FOR COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL VILLAGE CENTER TYPE USE.

A SITE PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY BUILD ANYTHING THERE.

AND STAFF FINDS THOSE THOSE PROFFERS THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED REASONABLE AND RECOMMENDS THAT THEY BE ACCEPTED.

SO SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING IN MAY, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND SUBJECT TO THE PROFFERED CONDITIONS.

AND THEY PROVIDED A REASON THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS.

THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS BOARD MEETING, AND WE DID ADVERTISE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE CODE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE IF YOU NEED THEM TOO.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE AERIAL RIGHT NOW.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A 50 FOOT EASEMENT OFF OF SAWMILL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON TOP OF THAT HOUSE OR ON THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT ON THE CORNER OF SAWMILL AND COURTHOUSE. IS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE AERIAL IS A LITTLE OFF OR? THE GIS IS NOT 100% ACCURATE.

IT'S BUT BUT THAT DOES LOOK VERY CLOSE TO THAT HOUSE.

SO THAT MAY BE THE CASE THAT WHOEVER BUILT THAT HOUSE PUT IT RIGHT THERE ON THE EASEMENT.

THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS REZONING REQUEST IS FOR THE BLUE OUTLINED AREA, I GOT YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] WHAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED IN THE FRONT? THE THREE BUILDINGS WE DID THE DAYCARE.

IT'S A DAYCARE, A CHURCH AND WHAT ELSE IS OVER THERE? LAW OFFICE OR A HEALTH OFFICE, I BELIEVE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.

TWO OF THOSE PARCELS, YES, ARE THE DAYCARES, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OTHER ONE IS.

ONE OF THEM WAS A LAW OFFICE HE'S RELOCATED.

WAS. SO YEAH, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT AT THIS TIME.

MRS. WAYMACK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. NO QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, TIM, THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORTH AND EITHER SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST.

PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE.

YOU SAID THE PERSON THAT SAYS THIS SAYS REQUEST IS HERE TIM? WOULD THEY LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING BEFORE I TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD? SHE'S SAYING SHE'S AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD.

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I KNOW WE WERE YOU IN YOUR SUPERVISOR COMMENTS YOU BROUGHT UP THE WASTEWATER AND WATER CAPACITY OF THAT.

THAT'S THE AREA GOING TO PETERSBURG, CORRECT FOR WASTEWATER? SOUTH CENTRAL IS THE ONE GOING TO PETERSBURG.

THE OTHER ONE WAS A HOPA ONE YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

SO WHERE THIS SYSTEM IS HERE, IS THIS GOING TO HOPEWELL OR GOING TO PETERSBURG? IT SPLITS ON 156 MR. HOLCOMB'S NOT HERE.

CORRECT? YEAH MR. HOLCOMB AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED.

BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE IT'S JUST WHETHER THEY YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WHERE THE PIPE IS AT CAPACITY.

RIGHT. CAN'T PUSH MORE INTO IT.

RIGHT. I KNOW THE ONE ON 156 IS THAT'S WHAT WE WERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

ANYBODY ELSE? FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE AND WHAT KIND OF HAZARDS WE MAY HAVE WITH THE DAYCARE IN FRONT OF IT.

THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO REALLY.

BECAUSE I'LL THROW THE EXAMPLE OVER HERE IS THE HOME SERVICE STANDARDS SUCH AS EXTERMINATORS.

RIGHT. YOU HAVE AN EXTERMINATOR ON SITE IN THAT BUILDING, THEY'VE GOT CHEMICALS STORED, AND SOMETHING HAPPENS YOU GOT A DAYCARE IN FRONT OF IT.

SAFETY MINDED, THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT.

WE JUST EXPANDED, ACTUALLY.

WE VOTED FOR AND EXPANDED THE DAYCARE FACILITY, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE POSSIBLY GENERATED.

NOT TO SAY IT'S GOING TO EVEN HAPPEN, BUT I WOULD BE WONDERING IF THE THE OWNER WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS LIST AS TO WHAT THE LIMITATIONS WOULD BE.

MR. GRAVES, MR. BALDWIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION THAT YOU HAVE TO I THINK THE NEXT STEP IN THAT CASE WOULD BE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT SUBMIT REVISED PROFFERS.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO DO, YOU COULD ASK THEM TO COME UP AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT REMOVING THAT ITEM FROM THE LIST.

IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND WAS TO BASICALLY NOT ALLOW THE THE HOME SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS? WELL, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALL HOME SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A DECORATOR OR A PLUMBER OR EXTERMINATORS, POSSIBLY STORE CHEMICALS ON SITE.

AND IF WE HAD A CHEMICAL SPILL, WE GOT A DAYCARE FACILITY RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.

THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN IT SHOULD BE A CONCERN FOR OUR FIRE AND EMS GROUP.

AND DEFINITELY A CONCERN FOR ME WITH CHILDREN INVOLVED.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING GENERATED WITH SOME OF THESE I'D LIKE THEM TO REVISIT THIS AND OFFER SOME, MAYBE SOME AMENDMENTS TO IT.

MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

YES, MA'AM. IT IS POSSIBLE TO AMEND THE PROFFERS.

THEY CANNOT BE AMENDED TONIGHT.

WE WOULD NEED TO RE-ADVERTISE AND THEN THE PROFFERS WOULD NEED TO BE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

[INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT, MRS. WAYMACK, DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT? NO. NO COMMENT.

MR. PUGH. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE MR. COX IS COMING FROM AT LEAST FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE, WHERE I, YOU KNOW, MY CAREER IS AT I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT 100% ON THE SAFETY. NOW, IF THE PROFFERS IS IN, LET ME UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT AND THE PROFFERS ARE IN HERE, THEN IT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD Y'ALL SAY IN THE PAST BY RIGHT? CORRECT. THEY CAN BUILD IT BY RIGHT AND PUT WHATEVER THEY WANT IN IT.

OR IS THAT SOMETHING WHEN THEY SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO PUT THIS IN IT.

IS THAT WHERE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION COMES IN? HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO MR. GRAVES CAN ANSWER THAT.

YES. IF YOU'VE GOT THE LIST OF PROFFERS ON PAGE FOUR

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OKAY. YES, THEY WOULD BE BY RIGHT.

SO BASICALLY IF THEY SAID WE WANT A BUILDING AND PUT IT BUILD A BUILDING AND THEN PUT A DRY CLEANER IN IT, THEY DON'T NEED YOUR PERMISSION TO DO THE DRY CLEANING.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY POLICY ON STORAGE OF CHEMICALS, BULK STORAGE OF CHEMICALS? THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE BUILDING CODE.

SO THEY WOULD THEY WOULD INSPECT THAT BUILDING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE WERE AN EXTERMINATOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THEY'RE STORING EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BUILDING CODE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR CONCERN, MR. COX? I MEAN, AGAIN, I JUST MY CONCERN IS FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE DAYCARE AND ALL.

I'M EITHER WAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE PUT IN THERE IS GENERATING THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC WE WANT.

AND THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYBODY IN HAZARD, WHETHER IT BE THE HOMEOWNERS SURROUNDING IT, THE DAYCARE FACILITY OR THE OTHER BUSINESSES.

SO I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH IT IF YALL ARE GOOD WITH IT.

QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO GO THERE 6 OR 3 OR DO WE KNOW? THAT'S TOTALLY UP IN THE AIR.

WHEN THEY'RE READY TO BUILD, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, OKAY, DETERMINE THAT AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. AND THEN WILL THAT COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD? NO A SITE PLAN IS REVIEWED BY STAFF AND AS LONG AS THAT PLAN MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THE COUNTY CODE, THEN IT WILL GET APPROVED.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M I'M I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE MR. COX IS COMING FROM WITH HIS CONCERN.

I'M JUST A LITTLE HESITANT TO PUSH THIS OFF TO ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING, RE-ADVERTISING.

I WOULD HOPE THAT IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE PROPER THINGS IN PLACE, LIKE YOU SAID, IF IF THERE WAS A EXTERMINATING BUSINESS THAT WE WOULD ENSURE THAT THINGS ARE PROPERLY STORED, THINGS CAN HAPPEN EVEN IF THEY'RE PROPERLY STORED, I GET THAT SO BUT I DO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS, SIR.

DEFINITELY A CONCERN.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN BASED ON MY COMMENT, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS REZONING 24-02.

AND AGAIN, JUST ALLOW OUR DEPARTMENTS TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE PROPERLY KEPT AND STORED AND PROTECTED TO, TO PROTECT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND? HAVE A SECOND MOTION DIES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ONE IS AN APPOINTMENT FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM TO.

I'M SORRY. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS.

I DIDN'T GET A SECOND.

I MEAN, THERE WERE NO OTHER MOTIONS, AND SO.

SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE APPLICANT? I'M JUST ASKING.

IT'S A IT'S A MATTER THAT IS STILL PENDING UNTIL THERE'S A MOTION TO DISPOSE OF IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. AND SO I WOULD PRESUME THAT IT WOULD BE CARRIED OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING.

BUT IF IT'S CARRIED OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE STILL CAN'T MODIFY THE PROFFERS, THE PROFFERS CANNOT BE MODIFIED UNLESS WE GO BACK THROUGH DOING ANOTHER POSTING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

AM I INCORRECT OR CORRECT WITH THAT STATEMENT? YOU ARE CORRECT.

SO POSTPONING IT TO OR HAVING IT TO GO TO ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE SAME PROFFERS JUST PUTS US 30 DAYS LATER TO HAVE THE SAME THING IN FRONT OF US.

YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT.

WELL, WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT THEN WE NEED TO RE-ADVERTISE IT AND GO BACK THROUGH THAT.

MODIFY THE PROFFERS OR SOMETHING.

I JUST JUST LETTING IT LAY HERE AND GO TO THE NEXT MEETING.

I DON'T SEE WHAT THAT GAINS US, TO BE HONEST.

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IT'S NOT MY PLACE.

I WOULD BE, AND THIS IS JUST MY CONCERN, YOU KNOW, WITH MR. COX AS WELL AS I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE HERE, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IT'S ONE THING IF WE KEEP THE SAME ESTHETICS AS WHAT'S THE BUILDINGS IN FRONT, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE LIKE A CROSSINGS BOULEVARD TYPE STRIP MALL? THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED, WE'VE GOT NO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. APPROVING THE REZONING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ESTHETICS OF ANY BUILDINGS.

THIS IS JUST ALLOWING IT TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE IT WOULD NEED TO BE REZONED PROPERLY TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE IN THE BUSINESS CATEGORY. AGAIN, THINGS LIKE ESTHETICS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND, MR. GRAVES, YOU CAN PLEASE STEP UP AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG HERE.

BUT WOULDN'T ALL THOSE THINGS BE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY COULD IMPOSE AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, SIR? SO THERE ARE DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS FAR AS HOW THE SITE NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED AND BUILT.

IT WOULDN'T THOSE WOULDN'T AFFECT THE, THE ESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING.

SO IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AGREEABLE TO THE APPLICANT, THEN THEY COULD REVISE THEIR PROFFERS WITH A WORDING THAT IS AGREEABLE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.

BECAUSE THOSE PROFFERS ARE VOLUNTARY.

SO RIGHT NOW YOU JUST HAVE TWO PROFFERS.

ONE IS ABOUT SCREENING AROUND THE PERIMETER AND ONE IS ABOUT WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED.

SO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE APPLICANT.

SO IF THERE ARE CONCERNS AND YOU WANT TO GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, YOU COULD VOTE TO POSTPONE A DECISION TO A FUTURE DATE AND LET THEM COME BACK TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC CONCERNS IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC CONCERNS.

MY SPECIFIC CONCERNS IS HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE ON THE THREE ACRES I BELIEVE, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

SURE. ONE OPTION FOR THAT IS THEY COULD HAVE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO SHOW WHAT THEY AND GENERALLY INTEND TO BUILD THERE, AND THEY COULD PROFFER THAT AS A AS A PROFFER.

OKAY. BUT BUT SO, SO ONE WAY YOU COULD HANDLE THAT IS TO VOTE, TO POSTPONE AND THEN SITE SPECIFIC REASONS, THEN GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO COME BACK.

ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

IT'S JUST I YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE.

IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE COMING THERE POSSIBLY.

I MEAN, I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

BUT AGAIN, MY COMMENT IS MY STATEMENT IS DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE MISS ANDREA OR? IT DOES. OKAY.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN THE MOTION IF WE IF WE SAY TO POSTPONE IT, DOES THAT OR JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF MODIFYING THE PROFFERS THAT WOULD TRIGGER.

IF THE MATTER IS NOT VOTED ON TONIGHT.

THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE LAW A YEAR AGO.

WE WOULD HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE IT ANYWAY TO CONSIDER IT NEXT MONTH.

AND SO, GIVEN MR. COX'S COMMENTS STAFF CAN TALK WITH THE APPLICANT TO SEE WHETHER THE APPLICANT WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A VOLUNTARY MODIFICATION TO THE PROFFERS, OTHERWISE IT COULD COME BACK NEXT MONTH IN EXACTLY THE SAME FORM.

OKAY, BUT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO ASK ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, PLEASE COME.

BUT MY COMMENT TOO IS WE SHOULDN'T WE IF WE HAVE SOME CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, SHOULDN'T WE MAKE SURE TO COMMUNICATE THAT WITH MR. GRAVES AND THE OFFICE SO THAT THEY CAN DISCUSS THOSE THINGS WITH THE APPLICANT? YES, BECAUSE I HATE TO SEE ONE THING GET TAKEN FROM TONIGHT, AND THEN WE COME BACK IN 30 DAYS, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING SOMETHING ELSE.

YES. SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

WE JUST HAVE AN AREA THAT IS HALFWAY ZONED BUSINESS AND HALFWAY ZONED RESIDENTIAL OR AGRICULTURAL.

AND THE PART THAT IS ZONED BUSINESS ISN'T BIG ENOUGH TO MEET CODES RIGHT NOW TO BUILD ANYTHING.

SO IF IT ONE DAY WE DID WANT TO DEVELOP IT.

I MEAN, THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE THOUGHT OF IS DOING THREE MORE OF THOSE SAME BUILDINGS THERE.

WE DID HAVE OFFERS THAT WE JUST PUT IN LINE WITH THE PROFFERS THAT WERE ALREADY SET IN PLACE, BUT WE COULD OBVIOUSLY WE COULD CHANGE THOSE.

BUT THE ONLY THING WE'VE THOUGHT OF SO FAR IS THREE MORE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOUNG LADY? NO, SIR. THANK YOU MA'AM.

SO, MR. GRAVES, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU ONE LAST QUESTION, BECAUSE INTERESTING COMMENT SHE JUST MADE.

FOR THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE DOES ANY OF THESE PROFFERS EXIST FOR THOSE BUILDINGS ALREADY THERE? WHICH MEANS IS THERE A CHANCE, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T DO IT, THAT ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS COULD BE SOLD TO AN EXTERMINATOR COMPANY? LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THE PROFFERS IN HERE.

AND I ONLY ASK BECAUSE SHE SAID THEY PUT THEIR PROFFERS TO BRING THEM IN LINE WITH THE EXISTING STUFF.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF WITH ME OF THE PROFFERS THAT APPLY TO THOSE BUILDINGS.

ALL RIGHT, IF YOU COULD JUST FIND OUT AND LET US KNOW.

I CAN, YEAH.

THANK YOU SIR.

ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, LADIES, WHAT ARE WE DOING? I THINK WE ALL.

I THINK I'M I THINK SHE'S WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO MAKE THIS BOARD HAPPY.

I SAY WE MAKE A MOTION TO RE-ADVERTISE WITH WHAT I DISCUSSED AND WHAT MR. COX DISCUSSED AS FAR AS TAKING OUT THE ONE EXTERMINATOR THING AND THEN JUST HAVING ALMOST LIKE A SITE PLAN, WHICH YOU PRETTY MUCH TOLD ME YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO ANYTHING, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE SAME THREE BUILDINGS, WHICH I THINK THAT WORKS IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

I'LL SECOND IT.

MRS. KNOTT CALL THE ROLL.

MR. COX.

YES, MR. BROWN.

YES. MR. WEBB. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. PUGH. YES.

IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

[INAUDIBLE] THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION SPEAKERS]. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT WE HAVE ON HERE APPOINTMENT FOR FOUR YEAR TERM BRIGHTPOINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE ADVISORY

[G. Postponed Items]

I'M SORRY.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW FOR YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE ONLY APPLICANT WE HAVE FOR BRIGHTPOINT COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS A MISS DANIELLE CLAIBORNE-ROACH.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT.

SECOND. MISS KNOTT, A MOTION A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

RIGHT. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO REPORTS AND WE HAVE MISS SMITH, MISS CRYSTAL SMITH WITH VDOT.

[H. Reports]

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

THE BRIDGE WORK ON LONE OAK MILL ROAD WAS COMPLETED AND THE ROAD WAS OPENED ON JUNE 26TH.

GOLF COURSE, ROAD BRIDGE I SPOKE TO CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TODAY, AND THEY'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT IT WILL COMPLETE AS SCHEDULED IN SEPTEMBER.

NOT QUITE AS CONFIDENT ON THE BULL HILL ROUNDABOUT, UNFORTUNATELY.

IN FACT, THAT PROJECT IS CURRENTLY IN THE YELLOW, AND WE EXPECT IT TO GO RED SHORTLY.

MANAGEMENT STAFF CONTINUES TO PUSH THE CONTRACTOR AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE WHERE THEY CAN.

I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING THEIR LIMITS ON THEIR LANE CLOSURES.

WE'VE GOT STAFF OUT THERE TRYING TO PUSH THEM TO GET OUT OF THE ROAD ON TIME AS WELL.

WE DID GET A SPEED STUDY REQUEST FOR GOLF COURSE ROAD FROM ROBIN ROAD TO THE OVERPASS.

WE'VE COMPLETED A COURTESY REVIEW ON THAT, AND WE ARE SUBMITTING THAT TO OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION FOR A FULL STUDY.

AS SOON AS I GET THE RESULTS ON THAT, I'LL SHARE.

I EXPECT IT TO BE AT LEAST 6 TO 8 WEEKS.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE INSTALLED NEW SIGNAGE AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS AT BULL HILL AND COURTHOUSE.

THAT WAS DUE TO A CITIZENS CONCERN, SO WE WERE GLAD SOMEBODY NOTICED IT AND LET US KNOW ABOUT IT.

WE ALSO GOT A SPEED STUDY REQUEST FOR HINES ROAD, AND WE HAVE NOT STARTED OUR COURTESY REVIEW ON THAT.

I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE A STUDY ON THAT ROUTE BEFORE.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND AT LEAST DO A COURTESY REVIEW ON IT AGAIN, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT RESULTS COME THIS TIME.

WHICH END BOTH ENDS OR JUST...

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THE ENTIRE ROUTE. YES, SIR.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR UPDATES TONIGHT.

BUT I WILL BE HERE FOR THE SMART SCALE PRESENTATION.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS? JUST THANK YOU FOR THE HINES ROAD [INAUDIBLE] GOLF COURSE CURVE.

I'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD COMPLIMENTS, BUT I'VE ALSO HAD SOME PEOPLE SAYING, WE NEED TO RIP IT BACK UP BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD RAIN SINCE YOU PUT IT IN, SO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

AND IN ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS ON COUNTY DRIVE RIGHT THERE AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF GROWTH ON THERE WOULD BE THE EASTBOUND SIDE.

IT'S MAKING CARS HAVE TO PULL FURTHER INTO THE ROADWAY TO TRY TO SEE IF ANYTHING IS COMING EASTBOUND.

IF YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE? NO SIR. MRS. WAYMACK YES.

YES. YES OR NO? THANK YOU. OKAY.

ACTUALLY, MISS SMITH, I DO GOT ONE THING.

JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT THE OTHER DAY.

IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME ONE SECOND, I'LL PULL IT UP.

WHAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE HILL? IS IT BEECHWOOD MANOR GOING UP ROUTE TEN ON THE LEFT, WHAT IS THAT? I CANNOT THINK OF THE NAME OF IT RIGHT NOW.

LET ME LOOK IT UP ON MY MAP.

IS IT YOU TALKING PAST 156? NO. IF YOU'RE GOING UP ROUTE 10, GO DOWN THROUGH THE DEEP BOTTOM AND YOU COME UP RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT RIVER'S EDGE.

RIVER'S EDGE SUBDIVISION.

COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION, THERE'S A COUPLE BRANCHES THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO COME OUT AND GO LEFT IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL COULD LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT NEEDED TO BE TRIMMED BACK.

YES, SIR.

IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR.

YES, MA'AM. IT IS MAKING OUR ROUNDS DOING BRUSH REMOVAL AND TREE TRIMMING.

WE'LL LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND ADDRESS IT.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME TONIGHT? NO, MA'AM. NO, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN CIP DISCUSSION, MRS. DREWRY. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

BOARD MEMBERS MR. STOKE AND MRS. ERARD, I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU BRIEFLY TONIGHT ABOUT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING PROCESS AND RESUMING THAT PLANNING ACTIVITY.

TYPICALLY AS A COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WE ENGAGE IN A TEN YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN PROCESS.

ANNUALLY, YOU USUALLY APPOINT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN COMMITTEE THAT'S COMPRISED OF ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ONE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, TWO PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR THAT ALSO SERVE AS THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THIS CIP COMMITTEE.

THREE CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVES AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FIRE AND EMS, WHICH SINCE MY TENURE YEAR HERE HAS BEEN THE FIRE CHIEF.

AS WELL MY OFFICE, MYSELF AND MY ACCOUNTING SUPERVISOR HAVE SERVED AS A STAFF ADVISOR, AS HAS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS FORMERLY COMBINED WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE, THE PLANTS, THE MANAGER MANAGER, AND THE DIRECTOR OF CDCC SERVED IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY.

COUNTY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SCHOOL BOARD PERSONNEL ARE GIVEN AN ANNUAL OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT PROJECTS AND UPDATE EXISTING PROJECTS THAT WERE ON A CIP LIST, AND THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED A CAPITAL PROJECT IS SHOWN AT THE BOTTOM.

ANY CONSTRUCTION OR PURCHASE OF A NEW ASSET OF OVER $50,000 THAT HAS A USEFUL LIFE LONGER THAN ONE YEAR.

UPGRADE UPGRADES TO BUILDINGS AND EQUIPMENT THAT EXTEND THE USEFUL LIFE AND OR REMODEL AND REPAIR.

THE COMMITTEE WOULD TYPICALLY HEAR PRESENTATIONS ON NEW PROJECTS AND UPDATES TO ANY EXISTING PROJECTS THAT WERE ON THE LIST.

THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THE VOTING COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD RANK THOSE PROJECTS WITH RESPECT TO URGENCY AND SIGNIFICANCE, USING THE CRITERION THAT ARE SHOWN AT THE BOTTOM HERE.

HOW QUICKLY DOES THE PROJECT NEED TO BE COMPLETED AND WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE? DOES IT POSE A LIFE SAFETY? IS IT EXTREMELY URGENT OR COULD IT BE POSTPONED? AND COUNTY PROJECTS, INCLUDING FIRE AND EMS AND SCHOOL ARE EVALUATED TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE'S POSITION OF WHAT RANKS HIGHER.

THIS PROCESS HAS TYPICALLY EXCLUDED STORMWATER PROJECTS BECAUSE DEBT IS REPAID WITH STORMWATER FEES, AS WELL AS UTILITY

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THE UTILITY, AS YOU KNOW, IS AN INDEPENDENT ENTERPRISE FUND THAT IS SELF-SUSTAINING.

BUT AS YOU WELL KNOW, SOME EXPANSION PROJECTS FOR UTILITIES COULD REQUIRE SOME GENERAL FUND SUPPORT AND NOT NECESSARILY BE COMPLETED ON THE BACKS OF THE EXISTING CUSTOMERS, PARTICULARLY, AGAIN, IF THEY ARE EXPANSIVE IN NATURE AND ADD CUSTOMERS.

RIGHT NOW THE CIP PROCESS EXCLUDES FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS BECAUSE THE BOARD BY ORDINANCE HAS DEVOTED TWO PENNIES OF YOUR REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUE TO FIRE AND EMS REPLACEMENTS.

SO WE DO NOT SCORE THOSE WITH OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND REALLY YOU DEVELOPED A NEW ORDINANCE IN FEBRUARY OF 2021 THAT DEVOTES AN ADDITIONAL PENNY OF YOUR REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUE TO FIRE EMS EQUIPMENT.

SO CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO REMOVING FIRE AND EMS EQUIPMENT SIMILAR TO THE APPARATUS.

SO THE RANKED LIST OF PROJECTS WITH ESTIMATED COSTS ARE FORWARDED TO OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, WHICH IS DAVENPORT AND COMPANY.

FOR MODELING, THEY PROVIDE A FISCAL IMPACT.

IF YOU HAD TO INCREASE TAXES, WHAT WOULD THAT POTENTIAL TAX RATE IMPACT BE CONSIDERING ANY PAYMENT PAYOFF OF OUR CURRENT DEBT PORTFOLIO.

DAVENPORT PROVIDES A REPORT OF WHETHER ISSUING NEW DEBT CREATES INSTANCES OF NONCOMPLIANCE WITH YOUR APPROVED FINANCIAL POLICIES, THE DEBT PORTION OF THE POLICIES.

THEY ALSO ASSIST US WITH DEVELOPING A TIMELINE OF WHEN PROJECTS CAN BE COMPLETED, AND AT TIMES, LOWER RANKED PROJECTS MIGHT BE MOVED UP SO THAT THEY'RE MORE LOGICAL SO THAT WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE BORROWING, ONE BORROWING TO CONSIDER REDUCING CLOSING COSTS FOR SMALL DEBT ISSUANCES.

AND AFTER FINE TUNING THAT CIP REPORT IS FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF ONCE THEY APPROVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY'RE FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR CONSIDERATION AND INCLUSION IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET. AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DOES HAVE THE LATITUDE TO MAKE REVISIONS TO THAT COMMITTEE'S LISTING.

CIP PROJECTS BECOME PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND ULTIMATELY ARE PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET.

HOWEVER, WE TYPICALLY DO NOT FUND PROJECTS AT THE TIME OF BUDGET ADOPTION, AND THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY ON WHAT IS MOVED FORWARD RESIDES WITH YOU, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

APPROPRIATION OF FUNDING AND INDIVIDUAL DEBT FUNDED PROJECTS OCCURS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHEN WE ENGAGE IN THE CIP PROCESS, AND IDEALLY THAT IS DONE WHEN WE HAVE BIDS IN HAND AND WE KNOW A TRUE COST.

YOU TYPICALLY APPROVE A PROJECT AND DO A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, WHICH EXPRESSES YOUR INTENT TO ISSUE DEBT FOR THAT PROJECT AT A FUTURE TIME, AND WE USUALLY DO NOT BORROW OR ISSUE DEBT MORE THAN ONCE IN A FISCAL YEAR.

THAT'S THE TYPICAL PROCESS.

SO FOR THE FISCAL YEARS 2022 THROUGH 2025, THE CIP PROCESS HAS BEEN SUSPENDED OR PAUSED.

AND THAT INITIALLY WAS DONE DUE TO POTENTIAL FISCAL IMPACTS OF THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC AND THEN ALSO WITH LIMITED ABILITY TO ISSUE NEW DEBT WITH OUR CAPACITY AS EVALUATED BY DAVENPORT DURING THE 2021 CYCLE.

THEY INDICATED THAT WITHOUT A SUBSTANTIAL TAX INCREASE, WE COULD NOT ISSUE NEW DEBT UNTIL FY 2027.

SO FOR THOSE REASONS, YOU HAVE PAUSED YOUR NORMAL ANNUAL CIP PROCESS.

SO FOR THIS BUDGET THAT WAS JUST ADOPTED, THE BUDGET THAT STARTED ON JULY 1ST, NO CAPITAL PROJECTS SUPPORTED BY THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT BY THE GENERAL FUND WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR ADOPTED BUDGET.

THERE WAS INCLUDED $30 MILLION AND DEBT ISSUANCE FOR PROJECTS TO BE REPAID BY UTILITY FEES.

AND THAT IS FOR FORCE MAIN AND PUMP STATION AND THE THREE MGD WASTEWATER PUMP STATION AND FORCE MAIN.

COUNTY VEHICLES AND SCHOOL BUSSES ARE CASH FUNDED.

THERE'S NO DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THAT.

THOSE WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR ADOPTED BUDGET, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ONE TIME INITIATIVES THAT CREATE A PLACEHOLDER FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM MAINTENANCE

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SO THE NEXT CYCLE THAT WE COMMUNICATED DURING OUR BUDGET WORK SESSIONS AND DURING OUR VIDEO PRESENTATIONS, WE DO PLAN TO BRING TO YOU A FALL REQUEST TO DO A FALL ISSUANCE, DEBT ISSUANCE FOR FIRE APPARATUS THAT IS REPAID WITH TWO PENNIES OF YOUR REAL ESTATE TAX DOLLAR, AND THAT REPLACEMENT PLAN IS IN DEVELOPMENT AND WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING.

I BELIEVE THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER IS THE PLAN.

AS WELL AS A STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THIS WOULD BE THE CYCLE THAT WE WOULD DO ANOTHER FIVE YEAR BORROWING FOR STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO CONTINUE YOUR STORMWATER PROGRAM AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD IS IN CONSIDERATION FOR.

ALSO, JUST TO MENTION TO YOU ONGOING PROJECTS WITH EXISTING BOND FUNDS AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THE WRAP UP PHASE OF THE CIRCUIT COURTROOM RENOVATION.

THAT COURTROOM IS IN USE NOW, BUT THERE ARE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS AND PUNCH LIST ITEMS THAT ARE ONGOING WITH RELATE I THINK WITH SOME FURNISHINGS. ELECTRICAL UPGRADES AT STATION EIGHT REMAIN ONGOING RENOVATIONS AT JEFFERSON PARK FIRE STATION WITH 2019 REPURPOSED BOND PROCEEDS ARE PARTIALLY COMPLETE.

AND SCOTT PARK PAVING PROJECTS.

THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY WAS POSTPONED AFTER THIS ITEM WAS SUBMITTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENING.

I BELIEVE THAT HAS AN AUGUST AUGUST 12TH START DATE, AND THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY YOUR TOURISM FUND BALANCE, THAT IS A ROAD PAVING PROJECT AT SCOTT PARK. SO THIS WAS THE LIST AS IT EXISTED IN 2021.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN STRICKEN THROUGH BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS HAVE EITHER BEEN ACCOMPLISHED OR ARE OR HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED USING ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE, OR THE SCHOOLS HAVE COMPLETED THEM, OR WE ARE NOW CASH FUNDING THEM.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, A NUMBER OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THIS LIST WAS DEVELOPED IN 2021.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS LIST IS PROBABLY ALMOST FIVE YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT, SO THESE PRICES ARE NO LONGER VALID.

INFLATION HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT TO SAY THE LEAST, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

SO SO THIS LISTING WOULD BE MODIFIED AND UPDATED AND ANY NEW PROJECTS WOULD BE CONSIDERED.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD IN PASSING THAT ARE NOT ON THAT LIST.

EXPANSION OF THE COURTHOUSE TO UPDATE, ADD ON, ADD OFFICES FOR RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY AS WELL AS COURT SERVICES STAFFED THAT ARE IN SOME OLDER BUILDINGS AND OR THE HUMAN SERVICES BUILDING.

IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE SCOTT PARK MASTER PLAN.

SCOTT PARK SOCCER FIELD LIGHTS, WHICH ARE NOT ON YOUR LIST.

OTHER UTILITIES EXPANSION PROJECTS WHICH MIGHT NEED GENERAL FUND SUPPORT.

AND THEN THE NUMBER ONE ITEM ON THE LIST WAS A NEW BEASLEY.

SINCE THAT LIST WAS DEVELOPED, WE HAVE HEARD COMMENTS FROM OUR SCHOOL FOLKS THAT THEIR PRIORITIES MAY HAVE CHANGED.

THAT PRIORITY MIGHT BE TO UPDATE OR BUILD A NEW HIGH SCHOOL AS A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THAT LISTING WAS DEVELOPED, AND THERE IS CURRENTLY A SEARCH FOR A NEW SUPERINTENDENT.

SO WE WE EXPECT SOME MOVEMENT ON THEIR PRIORITIES.

YOU ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SERIES 2019 BOND PROCEEDS THAT YOU COULD USE, POSSIBLY TOWARD RENOVATIONS AT STATION SIX.

WE AGAIN WILL BE BRINGING THIS TO YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING, AS WELL AS TOWARDS A NEW WELLS STATION ROAD FIRE STATION IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD.

SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW ITEMS THAT WE HAVE HEARD IN PASSING THAT WERE NOT EVEN ON THE LIST THAT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS, CERTAINLY.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE RESUME THE PROCESS FOR YOUR FY 2027 BUDGET PROCESS AND IF THAT IS WHAT THE GUIDANCE IS, THEN WE WOULD BEGIN THAT CAPITAL PLANNING PROCESS NEXT SUMMER, IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN JANUARY OF 2026 FOR THE FY 27 BUDGET.

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AGAIN, THERE IS LIMITED DEBT CAPACITY WITHOUT A SIZABLE TAX INCREASE UNTIL FY 27.

YOUR CURRENT PLANNING DIRECTOR AND STAFF ARE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT ON A COMP PLAN UPDATE, WHICH IS VERY TIME INTENSIVE.

AND A NEW BUDGET MANAGER POSITION THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE FY 25 BUDGET WAS ADVERTISED AND CLOSED ON JUNE 21ST.

AND I'M IN THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING INTERVIEWS AND PERHAPS REOPENING THAT ADVERTISEMENT.

AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, A NEW SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH IS UNDERWAY.

SO SO AGAIN, WE ARE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU THAT WE RESUME AND BEGIN OUR NEXT PLANNING PROCESS NEXT SUMMER TO TAKE TAKE EFFECT FOR YOUR FY 2027 BUDGET.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

[INAUDIBLE] I WILL PROBABLY SEND AN EMAIL POLL TO BRING TO YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET YOUR INSIGHT OR YOUR COMMENTS ON THE PROCESS OF A WHOLE AS A WHOLE, THE MAKEUP OF THAT COMMITTEE COMMUNITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION INVOLVEMENT.

SOMETIMES THE COMMITTEE GETS A LITTLE SIDETRACKED AND WE GET A LITTLE OFF TASK BECAUSE OF POLITICS, BECAUSE OF FRUSTRATIONS ABOUT POLITICS, BECAUSE OF PERCEIVED AUTHORITY THAT THE COMMITTEE THINKS THEY MAY HAVE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING AUTHORITY.

THEY GET A LITTLE AGGRAVATED IF THE PLAN ISN'T IMPLEMENTED, AS IT'S PUT FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO SO AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE PROCESS WHETHER OR NOT TO INCLUDE UTILITY EXPANSION PROJECTS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE STRUGGLE OF COST ESTIMATES NOT BEING IN THE BALLPARK.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT WE PERHAPS INCLUDE IN YOUR FY 26 BUDGET SOME FUNDING FOR SOME COST ESTIMATING SERVICES.

AND I CAN MAKE THAT AS PART OF MY BUDGET FOR FY 26.

BUT AGAIN, WE DO HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SCHOOL PERSONNEL SUBMITTING ESTIMATES OF WHERE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY OR THE EXPERTISE TO DEVELOP COST ESTIMATES FOR SIZABLE PROJECTS.

AND THEN BY THE TIME THIS BOARD SEES THEM, THOSE ESTIMATES ARE USUALLY A YEAR AND A HALF OLD, WHICH IS ANOTHER CHALLENGE.

SO SO AGAIN, WE WOULD WE WOULD LIKE TO PERHAPS ENGAGE IN OR SET ASIDE SOME FUNDING FOR SOME COST ESTIMATING SERVICES OR, OR CERTAINLY GET, GET THE ESTIMATES CLOSER TO, TO WHAT THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY BE.

I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WORKING WITH DAVENPORT BEFORE NEXT SUMMER TO UPDATE OUR CURRENT PORTFOLIO OF DEBT AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR DEBT CAPACITY, AND TO EVALUATE THE IMPACT OF REDUCING FUNDING THAT TO THE DEBT RESERVE AS IT OCCURRED FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE AND THE BUDGET CYCLE PREVIOUSLY. THERE WILL WON'T BE ANY PROJECT IDENTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CREATE AN UNRANKED LIST IF WE NEED TO FOR PROFFER PURPOSES, USING THE LIST ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WITH MAYBE SOME INFLATORS. IS THERE ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD NOW ON THE PROCESS, OR IS THE BOARD AGREEABLE TO RESUMING THIS FOR YOUR FY 27 BUDGET? MR. COX, START WITH YOU.

I'M FINE WITH IT [INAUDIBLE]. MR. PUGH, I'M FINE WITH IT.

OKAY. BROWN. YES, I'M FINE WITH IT.

MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

I'LL MAKE ONE COMMENT.

THE ESTIMATE THING IS GREAT, BUT IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN VDOT GOES THROUGH.

THE TIMING IS EVERYTHING.

AND HOLDING SOMEBODY'S FEET TO THE FIRE ONCE THEY TELL YOU THEY'LL DO SOMETHING FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT SIX, EIGHT MONTHS, THEY COME BACK AND THEY WANT TO JACK THE PRICE UP AND THEY'VE ALWAYS GOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S MATERIALS OR SOMETHING OUT OF THEIR CONTROL.

WELL, BUT IT'S NOT A BAD THOUGHT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S BAD.

I JUST WOULDN'T PUT A WHOLE LOT OF FAITH INTO IT AND TAKE IT TO THE BANK.

RIGHT. WELL, THE LISTING WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED IS NOT BASED ON ANY BID.

IT IS JUST AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT PROJECT MAY COST.

I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS STRUGGLE TO GIVE US AN ACCURATE ESTIMATE, TYPICALLY ON A MORE COMPLEX PROJECT, JUST LIKE WHAT THEY DID WITH JEFFERSON PARK ROUNDABOUT.

THAT WENT UP IN MILLIONS, RIGHT? NOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

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BIDS HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HIGH, EVEN MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS CAN ESTIMATE.

PUTTING INFLATION IN.

THE MARKET HAS BEEN VERY, VERY HIGH AND [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S A THOUGHT WE REALLY OUGHT TO WE OUGHT TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT THE ESTIMATE SHOULD BE SO WE CAN KNOW WHETHER WE'RE BEING TAKEN OR NOT.

RIGHT. SOME THINGS. YEAH.

HOPEFULLY IT WORKS OUT THAT WAY.

RIGHT. AND THE LAST PART OF MY PRESENTATION IS I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PUBLICLY MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT APPROPRIATE USE OF OUR GENERAL FUND, FUND BALANCE, OR CASH RESERVES.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC SPECULATION, A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, A LOT OF SUGGESTED USES OF OUR RAINY DAY FUND OR CASH RESERVES.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.

AS A FINANCIAL PROFESSIONAL GENERAL FUND BALANCE IS THE ACCUMULATED AMOUNT OF ACTUAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES OVER ACTUAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES YEAR OVER YEAR, AND THE FUND BALANCE INCREASES WHEN WE COLLECT MORE THAN WE SPEND.

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.

AND THE BIGGEST CAUSE OF THAT IS STAFFING VACANCIES AND STAFFING TURNOVER.

WE MAY HAVE CERTAIN POSITIONS THAT REMAIN VACANT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND THAT RESULTS IN US NOT SPENDING THE SALARY AND BENEFIT THAT WE BUDGETED FOR THOSE POSITIONS. ALSO, TURNOVER SAVINGS WHEN WE HAVE VETERAN STAFF RETIRE AND SOMETIMES REPLACEMENT WILL COME IN THAT HAS LESS EXPERIENCE OR SELECTS A DIFFERENT HEALTH INSURANCE OFFERING.

SO WE SPEND LESS THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED.

ARE YOUR FINANCIAL POLICIES ACTUALLY, YOU DO HAVE FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND LAST UPDATED IN 2018.

THEY ARE AVAILABLE ON THE FINANCE WEBPAGE.

AND WE HAVE POLICIES BECAUSE THEY CONTRIBUTE TO ARTICULATING OUR ABILITY TO INSULATE OURSELVES FROM A FINANCIAL CRISIS.

IT ENHANCES OUR SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM FINANCIAL CREDIT ABILITY TO ACHIEVE THE HIGHEST CREDIT RATING WE CAN.

BECAUSE A HIGHER CREDIT RATING MEANS WE PAY A LOWER INTEREST RATE, AND THAT RESULTS IN BIG DOLLARS.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A $40 MILLION SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU FINANCE THAT SCHOOL OVER 30 YEARS, YOU WOULD PAY FROM ONE PERCENTAGE LESS IN INTEREST, OVER 8.6 MILLION LESS IN INTEREST FOR A 30 YEAR NOTE.

IT ALSO PROMOTES LONG TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY BY ESTABLISHING CLEAR AND CONSISTENT GUIDELINES.

IT DIRECTS ATTENTION TO OUR TOTAL FINANCIAL PICTURE RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON A SINGLE ISSUE, PROMOTES LINKING LONG RUNNING FINANCIAL PLANNING WITH DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS, AND IT PROVIDES YOU, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE CITIZENS OF FRAMEWORK FOR MEASURING THE FISCAL IMPACT OF OUR GOVERNMENT SERVICES AGAINST THOSE PARAMETERS.

SO YOU DO HAVE FOUR AREAS OF FINANCIAL POLICIES CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

YOU HAVE DEBT POLICIES, YOU HAVE BUDGET POLICIES, AND YOU HAVE FUND BALANCE POLICIES.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF YOUR BUDGET POLICIES THIS NUMBER FOUR IS KEY.

ONGOING OPERATING COSTS SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BY STABLE REVENUES, RECURRING REVENUES, ONE TIME OR OTHER SPECIAL REVENUES, AS WELL AS ONE TIME EXPENDITURES.

SAVINGS WILL NOT BE USED TO FINANCE CONTINUING COUNTY OPERATIONS, BUT INSTEAD CAN BE USED FOR FUNDING SPECIAL PROJECTS OR ANOTHER OTHER NON-RECURRING CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

SO AGAIN, YOU SHOULDN'T TAKE CASH RESERVES TO ADD POSITIONS TO THE BUDGET.

IT WOULD VIOLATE YOUR POLICY.

NORMALLY, THE BOARD WILL APPROPRIATE UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE FOR ONE TIME CAPITAL PURPOSES, AS LONG AS YOUR THRESHOLDS ARE MET.

SO FUND BALANCE POLICIES, YOU HAVE A POLICY THAT INDICATES YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 12.5% OF YOUR ANNUAL GENERAL FUND AND SCHOOL BOARD FUND EXPENDITURES AND CASH RESERVES.

YOU MAY, FROM TIME TO TIME, GO BELOW THAT, BUT THE POLICY INDICATES THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO RESTORE IT WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE TIME THAT YOU WENT BELOW IT. SO, SO 12.5% IS YOUR POLICY AND YOU'VE TYPICALLY TARGETED 15%.

BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THE BOND RATING AGENCIES LOOK AT A PLETHORA OF ITEMS.

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AND THEIR EVALUATION INDICATED THAT OUR CASH RESERVES AT THAT TIME WERE BELOW THE US MEDIAN.

SO THEY COMPARE US TO OTHER LOCALITIES ACROSS THE NATION.

AND THAT AMOUNT THAT WE HAD, 25.2 WAS LESS THAN THAT MEDIAN.

THE MEDIAN WAS ACTUALLY 44.3%.

AND I CAN TELL YOU 44.3% OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST APPROVED FOR FY 25 FOR OPERATING REVENUES, GENERAL FUND AND SCHOOL WOULD BE NORTH OF 60 MILLION IN CASH RESERVES FOR US TO BE AT THAT MEDIAN OF 44%.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MENTION THAT BASED ON YOUR FINANCIAL POLICY.

IT IS APPROPRIATE CERTAINLY TO USE FUND BALANCE FOR ONE TIME CAPITAL NEEDS, AS LONG AS YOU'RE MAINTAINING YOUR POLICY THRESHOLD.

BUT IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO USE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET FOR RECURRING OPERATING COSTS LIKE PERSONNEL.

AND IT WOULD NEVER BE A PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION OF MINE TO USE FUND BALANCE TO OPERATE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE AND IT WOULD VIOLATE YOUR POLICY.

IT WOULD BE LIKE USING YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT TO PAY YOUR RECURRING BILLS.

YOUR SAVINGS WOULD BE WIPED OUT, AND THEN YOU WOULDN'T.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR OPERATIONS TO TO EVEN SURVIVE.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF COMMENT, A LOT OF SPECULATION.

AND 41 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.

IT CERTAINLY IS.

BUT BOND RATING AGENCIES LOOK AT OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS DURING A FISCAL CRISIS OR OTHER EMERGENCY.

COULD BE A WEATHER EMERGENCY.

IT COULD BE A CYBER EMERGENCY.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT THEY REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESILIENT AND ABLE TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS IF OUR REVENUE COLLECTION IS DISRUPTED FOR ANY VARIETY OF REASONS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.

YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.

NO, SIR. NO, SIR, MRS. WAYMACK. NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, MISS DREWRY, I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU.

BECAUSE YOU BEAT ON US ALL THE TIME.

OR YOU HAVE FOR ME FOR A WHILE BECAUSE I'M VERY CONSERVATIVE.

BUT YOU'RE BEHIND A LOT OF THIS.

AND YOU KEEP BETWEEN YOU AND DAVENPORT AND YOUR CREW.

YOU ALL MAKE SURE WE'RE IN SHAPE, AND WE CAN AFFORD TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITHOUT BEING PUT IN A BOX.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT, WE HAVE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

ENTERPRISE ZONE UPDATE.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN WEBB VICE CHAIRMAN, BROWN, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE AND MRS. ERARD, TONIGHT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE VIRGINIA ENTERPRISE ZONE.

IF I CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THAT ALSO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY ENTERPRISE ZONE, THE NOTABLE PROJECTS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT WITHIN THE ZONES THAT WE'VE HAD.

THE ENTERPRISE ZONE RENEWAL, ENTERPRISE ZONE AMENDMENTS.

ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE AT THE END? SO THE VIRGINIA ENTERPRISE ZONE INITIATIVE IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AIMED TO BOOSTING JOB CREATION AND INVESTMENT IN REAL PROPERTY. THIS PROGRAM SEEKS TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND REJUVENATE REJUVENATION OF ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED AREAS FOR LOCAL AND REGIONAL LOCALITIES.

ORIGINATING IN 1982 THIS WAS A TAX CREDIT INITIATIVE.

BUT IN 2005, THE ENTERPRISE ZONE GRANT ACT REPLACES WITH TWO GRANTS, ONE BEING THE REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENT GRANT AND THE OTHER THE JOB CREATION GRANT.

THESE ARE MORE TIED TO PERFORMANCE AND COMPANIES MEETING SPECIFIC JOB CREATION AND REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENTS.

SO VIRGINIA HAS AROUND 45 ENTERPRISE ZONES COVERING 245MI², AND SOME ARE JOINT ZONES WITH TOWNS AND OTHER LOCALITIES AS WELL.

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AS YOU CAN SEE, PRINCE GEORGE IS LOCATED IN NUMBER 16.

SO THE VIRGINIA ENTERPRISE ZONE, LIKE I STATED PROVIDES TWO GRANT BASED STATE INCENTIVES.

THE FIRST WE'LL GO OVER IS A REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENT GRANT.

THIS OFFERS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO OFFSET HARD CONSTRUCTION EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH QUALIFIED REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENTS WITHIN THE ZONE.

THESE QUALIFIED INVESTMENTS ARE TO BE COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL OR MIXED USE BUILDINGS LOCATED WITHIN THE ZONE, AND GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR UP TO 20% OF THE QUALIFIED PROPERTY INVESTMENT.

SO THOSE INVESTMENTS, LESS THAN 5 MILLION WOULD RECEIVE UP TO 100,000 AND ANYTHING MORE THAN 5 MILLION WOULD RECEIVE UP TO 200,000.

THE NEXT IS THE JOB CREATION GRANT.

THIS IS A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO ENCOURAGE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITH COMPENSATION EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM WAGE WITHIN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.

THIS IS BASED ON PERMANENT FULL TIME JOB CREATION EXCEEDING FOUR JOB THRESHOLDS.

WITH WAGE RATES AT LEAST 175% OF THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE AND HAVING THE AVAILABILITY OF HEALTH INSURANCE.

SO WITH FULL TIME POSITIONS EARNING AT LEAST 175% OF THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE, THEY WOULD RECEIVE $500 PER YEAR PER NET NEW FULL TIME POSITION AND QUALIFIED BUSINESSES, UP TO $800 PER YEAR.

NET NEW POSITION FOR THOSE EARNING AT LEAST 200% OF THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE.

THE COUNTY HAS MAINTAINED AN ENTERPRISE ZONE SINCE 1990.

ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2009, THE BOARD APPROVED A RESOLUTION FOR THE REDESIGNATION OF THE ENTERPRISE ZONE DUE TO THE ENTERPRISE ZONE GRANT ACT OF 2005.

OUR ZONE CONSISTS OF 3754 DESIGNATED ACRES OF ENTERPRISE ZONE, WHICH INCLUDES TWO NONCONTIGUOUS AREAS.

I SERVE AS THE LOCAL ZONE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE PRINCE GEORGE ENTERPRISE ZONE, AND THE COUNTY MARKETS IS ZONED THROUGH OUR BUSINESS RESOURCE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE QUARTERLY TRADE SHOWS AND OTHER ONLINE CHANNELS.

AND THESE ZONE REBATES HAVE BEEN USED IN THE PAST FOR MATCHING GRANT REQUIREMENTS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE DIVERSIFIED OUR TAX BASE. THIS IS A MAP OF OUR CURRENT ENTERPRISE ZONE.

THE TWO NONCONTIGUOUS AREAS.

THE LARGER AREA CONSISTS OF OUR SOUTH POINT INDUSTRIAL PARK AND CROSS POINT INDUSTRIAL PARKS.

AND IT GOES DOWN 460, AND THE OTHER ZONE IS LOCATED AT EXIT 45 AND CRATER ROAD.

THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY LOCAL INCENTIVES THAT WE OFFER THROUGH OUR ENTERPRISE ZONE IS THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX CREDIT FOR NEW BUSINESSES. TO QUALIFY FOR THIS INCENTIVE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF AT LEAST 250,000.

ALSO, EXISTING BUSINESSES CAN QUALIFY WITH AT LEAST 50,000 OF A CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

THIS CREDIT IS EQUAL TO THE AMOUNT OF MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX PAID ANNUALLY FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

AND HOW THAT WORKS IS THE BUSINESS PAYS THAT EACH YEAR, AND THEN WE REBATE THAT BACK ONCE WE RECEIVE PROOF AND VERIFICATION THAT THEY QUALIFY. REZONING FEES WAIVED.

THIS IS A ONE TIME INCENTIVE FOR NEW BUSINESSES WITH AT LEAST $250,000 OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT, OR EXISTING BUSINESSES WITH A 50,000 EXPANSION INVESTMENT.

WE ALSO OFFER A BUSINESS LICENSE TAX CREDIT, SIMILAR TO THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX CREDIT.

THIS IS PAID EACH YEAR AND FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD THAT IS REBATED BACK AFTER VERIFICATION.

WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEE OF 50%.

THIS IS A ONE TIME INCENTIVE FOR NEW COMMERCIAL AND OF AN INDUSTRIAL ENTITY, WITH A $250,000 CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

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SO OUR DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ENTERPRISE ZONE ANNUAL REPORT THAT IS DUE JULY 15TH OF EACH YEAR.

THESE REPORTS INCLUDE INFORMATION ON MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS WITHIN THE ZONE, PROJECTS WITHIN THE LOCAL ZONE, LOCAL INCENTIVE UTILIZATIONS JOB CREATION, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENTS MADE WITHIN THE ZONE, AND UP TO DATE MARKETING MATERIALS THAT WE USE TO MARKET THE ZONE.

SO FAR, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ACCUMULATED FOR OUR CALENDAR YEAR 2023 REPORT.

WE'VE HAD 89 PERMITS ISSUED WITHIN THE ZONE.

THESE ARE BUSINESS PERMITS ALSO A TOTAL VALUE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING ACTIVITY OF 138 MILLION WITHIN THE ZONE.

AND THIS CONSISTS OF 16 PARCELS.

WOW. HI.

HI. HI.

THIS IS A THIS IS A GRAPH OF THE JOB CREATION, GRANT DISBURSEMENT, REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENT, GRANT DISBURSEMENT, AND LOCAL INCENTIVES FROM STATE AND LOCAL SINCE 2013 TO 2023.

AND ALSO, WE'VE PROVIDED NEW JOBS, CREATED THE QUALIFIED REAL PROPERTY INVESTMENT THAT THE STATE HAS IDENTIFIED AND OUR TOTAL COMMERCIAL PERMIT JOB VALUE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN A POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT FROM THIS.

THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE JOB CREATION GRANT AND QUALIFIED REAL PROPERTY CAPITAL INVESTMENT GRANTS SINCE 2013.

ON THE LEFT, YOU SEE THE TOTAL OF BOTH AND THOSE COMPANIES THAT HAVE RECEIVED THOSE GRANTS.

THIS IS A LIST OF NOTABLE PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT VARIES FROM LARGE BUSINESSES TO SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE UTILIZED THE ZONE PURDUE DISPUTE ANIMAL HOSPITAL, HEATON'S LAWN SERVICE CENTER, METALS, WHICH YOU KNOW, THERE ARE HOME GROWN COMPANIES SINCE 2003.

THEY HAD THEIR FOURTH EXPANSION.

THAT'S A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF THOSE PROJECTS AND THE TOTAL JOBS CREATED.

SO SENATE BILL 679 PROVIDES THAT THE ENTERPRISE ZONE IN EXISTENCE AS OF JUNE 30TH OF 2024, SHALL BE EXTENDED FOR A PERIOD OF FOUR YEARS AND ADDITIONAL IN ADDITION TO ANY RENEWAL PERIODS CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED BY LAW BY THE GOVERNOR, AND UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO RENEW ENTERPRISE ZONES FOR UP TO FIVE YEAR RENEWAL PERIODS FOR THE ZONES DESIGNATED ON OR AFTER JULY 1ST OF 2005.

SO THAT INCLUDES OUR ZONE.

THE EXPIRATION OF THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY ENTERPRISE ZONE WAS ORIGINALLY IN 2029, BUT HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO 2043 UNDER NEW LEGISLATION.

AND THAT'S A BREAKDOWN OF RENEWALS.

SO STAFF IS PREPARING THE RENEWAL, WHICH IS DUE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2024.

LOCALITIES CAN SUBMIT AN ENTERPRISE ZONE AMENDMENT APPLICATION TO MODIFY ZONE BOUNDARIES OR LOCAL INCENTIVE PACKAGE.

THE LOCAL ZONE ADMINISTRATOR MUST GET APPROVAL FROM DHCD BEFORE MOVING FORWARD AT A LOCAL LEVEL.

THESE APPLICATIONS CAN BE SUBMITTED ONCE EVERY 12 MONTHS FOLLOWING THE LOCALITY'S LAST ZONE AMENDMENT.

AMENDMENTS ARE ACCEPTED ON A ROLLING BASIS.

BUT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR THOSE APPLICATIONS HAS TO BE SUBMITTED BY NOVEMBER 1ST.

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FROM THE DESIGNATION.

AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS IF ANY BOUNDARY AMENDMENTS ARE MADE.

UPDATING THIS AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAP TO ALIGN WITH BOARD GOALS.

I HAVE INCLUDED THIS, WHICH IS NOT IN YOUR PACKETS TONIGHT.

IT'S ONE SLIDE THAT INCLUDES A TIMELINE.

IF THE BOARD WISHES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY AMENDMENTS.

WE COULD HAVE A NOTIFICATION IF THE BOARD DECIDES ON ANY AMENDMENTS SENT TO DHCD ON THE INTENT TO SUBMIT ENTERPRISE ZONE AMENDMENTS ON JULY 30TH.

DHCD WILL HOLD THE 2024 BOUNDARY AND INCENTIVES AMENDMENTS WEBINAR.

AUGUST 13TH WE CAN PRESENT RECOMMENDED ENTERPRISE ZONE AMENDMENTS TO THE BOARD.

ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.

THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING AND RESOLUTION TO BE PASSED BY THE BOARD.

AND SO WE COULD HAVE AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.

OCTOBER 8TH.

WE COULD HOLD THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN RESOLUTIONS, AND ON OCTOBER 9TH, WE COULD SUBMIT THOSE AMENDMENTS TO DHCD.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT TONIGHT, MR. PUGH. NOT AT THIS TIME, MR. BROWN. NO, SIR, NOT AT THIS TIME.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. THANK YOU.

NO. NO QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I'VE GOT ONE. JUST CURIOSITY.

QUESTION? YES, SIR.

THIS IS STANDARD PRACTICE THROUGHOUT EVERYWHERE I'VE EVER BEEN.

YOU HEAR IT AT EVERY VARGO CONFERENCE OR ANY CONFERENCE YOU GO TO WITH DIFFERENT LOCALITIES.

HOW DO WE FARE ON WHERE AIRES IS SET UP RIGHT NOW? CURRENTLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN SINCE 2009, TO BE COMPETITIVE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYTHING'S ALL ABOUT.

WHEN HIS BUSINESS IS TRYING TO GET TO THE BEST SHOT OR GET THE MOST THEY CAN GET OUT OF SOMEBODY, HOW DO WE FARE OUT WITH THE OTHER LOCALITIES WITHIN, SAY, A 50 MILE RADIUS? 50 OR 100 MILE? WE FARE VERY WELL.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX REBATE AIMS TO ATTRACTING THOSE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AS A COUNTY TO YOU KNOW, TRY TO INDUCE TO COME HERE.

YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE CLEAN ENERGY, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIES LIKE DATA CENTERS, THEY DON'T CLASSIFY UNDER THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAGS.

THEY CLASSIFY UNDER PERSONAL PROPERTY.

SO THAT COULD BE AMENDED IF WE'D LIKE TO BE WITHIN THE ZONE.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME LOCALITIES AS WELL THAT HAVE ACTUAL AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR CLAW BACKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE LOCALITY AND WHAT THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES ARE.

WELL, I KNOW SEVEN YEARS AGO THEY APPROACHED US AND THIS IS JUST GENERAL COMMENT BECAUSE WE DID NOT WE DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER IT.

THE HIGHER UPS IN THE STATE WANTED US TO CONSIDER TAKING A DEAL THAT WOULD PUSH IT OUT TO SEVEN YEARS ON PART OF IT AND TEN YEARS ON THE OTHER. AND WE DID NOT ENTERTAIN IT AND WHAT WEREN'T INTERESTED IN DOING IT.

AND I BELIEVE I WAS TOLD THEY WENT TO NORTH CAROLINA.

SO, THEY MUST HAVE REALLY WANTED IT OR THEY SAW A BENEFIT IN IT.

I PERSONALLY MYSELF DIDN'T SEE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AT THE TIME, NOT OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD.

TOO MUCH CAN HAPPEN, RIGHT? ANYWAY, THAT'S MY ONLY STATEMENT AND COMMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO ORDER OF BUSINESS.

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VICE CHAIRMAN. BROWN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M GOING TO GO OVER TONIGHT.

A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING AN APPLICATION, WHICH WE ARE SUBMITTING THROUGH THE VDOT AND COMMONWEALTH TRANSPORTATION BOARD SMART SCALE PROCESS. SO, I THOUGHT I'D TAKE A MOMENT.

AND MAYBE YOU ARE. MAYBE YOU AREN'T SUPER FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE SMART SCALE SYSTEM WORKS, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SYSTEM.

THE PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS HINES ROAD IN ROUTE 460, AND THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY BACK IN 2020, WAS NOT APPROVED AT THAT TIME FOR FUNDING.

SO WE'RE IN ESSENCE WITH SOME NEW CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SCORING RESUBMITTING FOR THE 2024 APPLICATION DEADLINE.

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FORTUNATELY FOR US AND THIS GO AROUND, A LOT OF THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE STILL ACCEPTABLE FROM THE 2020 SUBMISSION.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL ON A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.

THE PROCESS THAT IS USED BY THE BUY SMART SCALE, IT SCORES PROJECTS ON A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY RELEVANT IN OUR PROJECT HERE TODAY WOULD BE IMPROVING SAFETY.

THIS IS REALLY PRIMARILY A SAFETY PROJECT, BUT THEY ALSO LOOK AT PROJECTS THAT REDUCE CONGESTION OR IMPROVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SCORING WEIGHTED SCORING SYSTEMS, AND THESE DO VARY A LITTLE BIT AS YOU MOVE ACROSS THE STATE INTO DIFFERENT INTO DIFFERENT REGIONS.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS ONCE YOU GET THROUGH, THERE'S A PORTAL SET UP THROUGH SMART SCALE.

WE SUBMIT OUR APPLICATION MATERIALS UP THROUGH THAT WORKING WITH VDOT STAFF ASSISTANCE.

THESE PROJECTS GO THROUGH A DETAILED SCORING SYSTEM BY, BY VDOT, AND ULTIMATELY THE SCORING OF ALL THE PROJECTS ARE PRESENTED TO THE CTB AND THEN THE CTB USES THAT INFORMATION.

THEY'RE NOT BOUND BY IT, BUT THEY USE THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE THEIR FUNDING DECISIONS FOR ROAD PROJECTS IN THE SIX YEAR PLAN.

SO THAT'S THE BASIC PROCESS.

OOPS. GO TOO FAR HERE.

SO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A PROJECT WE HAVE.

SO AGAIN THIS IS A 2024 ROUND.

I'LL CALL IT ROUND SIX OF SMART SCALE.

AND I WILL MENTION THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT VDOT AND THE CTB DO AFTER SMART SCALE SESSIONS, THEY GO BACK AND REVIEW HOW THE SYSTEM WORKED, HOW THE PROCESS WORKED AND WORK TO MODIFY IT. SO, I PRETTY MUCH SAY EVERY TIME YOU LOOK AT A SMART SCALE SUBMISSION ONE CYCLE TO THE NEXT, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME.

IT'S SIMILAR, BUT THEY TRY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THE PROCESS WORK A LITTLE BETTER.

AND WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE THIS YEAR.

WE'VE GOT GOOD PARTNERS WITH VDOT HELPING US GET OUR APPLICATION MATERIALS IN.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A REALIGNMENT OF HYDRO AND I'VE GOT A SLIDE.

NOT THE BEST ONE IN THE WORLD.

BUT WE HAVE A SLIDE OF THAT REALIGNMENT.

IT'S HYDRO AT COUNTY DRIVE.

AND WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED WHAT THEY CALL PRE-APPLICATION IN MARCH, WHICH GOES THROUGH AN INITIAL SCORING.

AND THEN WE KIND OF PROCEED INTO THE NEXT PHASES OF THE PROCESS, WHICH GET INTO APPLICATION REFINEMENT.

AND THAT'S THE PROCESS WE'RE IN NOW.

SO WE'RE IN APPLICATION REFINEMENT, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ALL THE SUBMISSIONS UPLOADED INTO THE SYSTEM, ALL THE REQUIRED MATERIALS.

AND ONE OF THOSE, OF COURSE BEING AS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE BOARD APPROVE A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICATION WILL NOT PROCEED THROUGH THE SMART SALE SYSTEM IF THE IF THE BOARD DOES NOT VOTE TO APPROVE THE SUBMISSION.

ONCE ALL THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED, VDOT STAFF SPENDS A FEW MONTHS REVIEWING THE PROJECTS, SCORING THEM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THEY SUBMIT IT TO CTB AND THE CTB SPENDS 2 OR 3 MONTHS THEMSELVES GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WHERE THEY MAKE THE ULTIMATE SELECTIONS, AND THERE'S SOME PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IN THAT PROCESS AS WELL. ONE SLIDE HERE.

SO APOLOGIZE FOR THE SMALL SIZE OF THE OF THE GRAPHIC THERE.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE ROUTE 460.

AND IN THE MIDDLE IS BASICALLY HINES ROAD.

WHAT YOU HAVE ON EACH END ARE BASICALLY PUTTING IN TURN LANES LEFT TURN LANES ON BOTH THE EAST AND WEST APPROACHES TO HINES ROAD ON ROUTE 460 THAT INCLUDES SOME ROOM FOR A TAPER AND THEN SOME STORAGE FOR THE FOR THE CARS THAT ARE IN IN THE LEFT TURN WILL ULTIMATELY THE FUTURE LEFT TURN LANE.

AND I'LL MENTION WHEN THEY TOOK A LOOK AT ACCIDENT DATA, ONE OF THE WORST KIND OF ACCIDENTS.

AND I'M SURE YOU SEE THIS UP AND DOWN ROUTE 460 ALL THE TIME, PEOPLE GETTING REAR ENDED SITTING IN THE LEFT LANE WAITING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A PRIMARILY A SAFETY PROJECT, AND THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATES WERE THIS COULD REDUCE SOME CRASHES IN THAT AREA OF 460 BY 43%.

REALLY, BY TAKING THE REAR END COLLISIONS OUT OF THE OUT OF THE MIX.

THERE IS A SLIGHT REALIGNMENT OF, OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF HINES ROAD, SO THAT HINES ALIGNS IN THAT INTERSECTION DIRECTLY ACROSS INSTEAD OF BEING OFFSET AS IT IS TODAY. SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A REALIGNMENT THERE.

SO JUST ASSUMING THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS THING AND APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, WE WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR FINAL MATERIALS UP INTO THE PORTAL BY THE 15TH OF THIS MONTH, AND THEN IT WILL MOVE ON INTO VDOT FINALIZING THE APPLICATIONS, WHICH THEY, THEY DO THROUGH YOU KNOW, FOR THE WEEKS AFTER WE SUBMIT THE THING BEFORE THEY GET INTO THEIR, YOU KNOW, REVIEW FOR THE CTB.

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AS YOU CAN SEE, CURRENT ESTIMATE IS 2031 CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME ON THE CURRENT YEAR, SIX YEAR PLAN.

AND WITH THAT, BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I KNOW CRYSTAL SMITH IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR VDOT, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU DO HAVE.

A RESOLUTION HAS BEEN PREPARED FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.

AND AGAIN APPROVAL OF THAT RESOLUTION WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICATION TO MOVE FORWARD INTO THE SMART SCALE PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

YES, SIR. MR. BALDWIN, THE DRAWING THAT YOU HAVE THERE, IS THIS THE DESIGN THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED? YES. THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE APPLICATION.

THERE'RE SOME ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS THAT ARE IN THE PACKAGE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK DONE BY MICHAEL BAKER AT THE TIME, BUT THIS GIVES YOU SORT OF THE ALIGNMENT OF.

BUT THAT IS BASICALLY THE CONCEPT OF, OF THE, OF THE TURN LANES THERE AT HINES.

AS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED NOW, COULD VDOT COME IN? AND THIS MAY BE A CRYSTAL QUESTION, BUT COULD VDOT COME IN AND MODIFY THESE DRAWINGS TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THEM AND NOT THE FULL 60 PART, BUT WHERE IT TIES INTO GOLF COURSE DRIVE AND SUCH? I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR THIS.

I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING THE WAY IT KIND OF KICKS IN AND TIES BACK IN AND STILL HAS THAT CURVE TO GO AROUND AGAIN.

YEAH, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR CHRIS.

I WILL SAY THIS. THIS IS ALL PRELIMINARY WORK, RIGHT.

AND IT IS SUBJECT TO A MUCH MORE DETAILED ENGINEERING WORK AS A PROCESS MOVES FORWARD.

BUT IT IS VERY PRELIMINARY.

WHAT I WILL SHARE IS THAT VDOT CANNOT CHANGE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT OR THE LIMITS OF THE SCOPE OR MINOR GEOMETRICS. YES.

THAT OTHER THAN THE 2031 TIME FRAME.

BUT WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY WE GET APPROVED SO IT DOESN'T SLIDE FURTHER THAN THAT.

EXACTLY. AND THE SCOPE CREEP RIGHT ALONG WITH IT.

YEAH, I JUST GOT A COMMENT.

THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT TO BE PUT THERE.

I'M IN AGREEMENT. IT NEEDS TO BE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S A HEAVILY TRAVELED AREA.

MAJORITY OF THAT TRAFFIC THERE IS 53 FOOTERS.

SO THAT'S ALMOST A 68 71FT TRUCK.

SO THAT'S INTERESTING.

YEAH. I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THE THROUGH TRAFFIC, FROM WHAT I RECALL, LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED, THE 2020 APPLICANT, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO 40% TRUCK TRAFFIC ON ROUTE 460.

SO WHICHEVER LANE THEY'RE IN, YOU HAVE SOME LARGE VEHICLES MOVING THROUGH THAT AREA, WHETHER THEY'RE TRYING TO BE STORED IN THE TURN LANE THEY'RE TURNING OR IF THEY'RE EVEN JUST DRIVING THROUGH.

43% IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DATA.

OKAY. YEAH.

MR. COX, I HAD TO I HAD TO CHUCKLE TO MYSELF WHEN IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT CAN REDUCE THE CRASH, BUT IT'S NOT UNTIL 2031 WHAT HAPPENS IN ALL THE YEARS IN BETWEEN THAT, YOU KNOW.

BUT I GET IT.

MRS. WAYMACK, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SHE MAY BE ON MUTE.

MRS. WAYMACK.

IS SHE STILL ON? NO QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS BALDWIN. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION HERE.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL WANT TO DRAW WHICH ONE? GO AND GET IT. YOU CAN SECOND.

GO AHEAD. SIR. I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. MISS KNOTT GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MR. WEBB? YES, MRS. WAYMACK? YES, MR. PUGH? YES.

MR. COX? YES.

MR. BROWN? YES.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR UNEXPIRED TERM FOR THE APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY.

I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE THIS APPOINTMENT UNTIL OUR AUGUST MEETING, AND WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK AT THIS TIME AT THAT TIME.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MISS KNOTT, A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MR. WEBB.

YES, MR. BROWN? YES, MR. COX.

YES, MR. PUGH.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO APPLY FOR A VDEM GRANT.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MR. BRIAN BAIRD, DEPUTY EMERGENCY MANAGER, IS GOING TO PRESENT.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBERS AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS GRANT TO YOU AND THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES FOR PRINCE GEORGE

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THE EQUIPMENT WILL HELP WITH THE INITIAL RESPONSE AND AN HDR OR HEAVY TACTICAL RESCUE CALL WITHIN THE COUNTY AND SUPPORT ONE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. BATTALION CHIEF TAFLINGER HAS DEVELOPED A PROGRAM WHERE WE FIGURED OUT WHAT OUR SHORTFALL IS ON OUR EQUIPMENT LIST. HE'S DEVELOPED A FIVE YEAR PLAN, BUT WITH THIS GRANT, WE CAN KNOCK THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN COMPLETELY OUT WITHIN A YEAR AND A HALF.

THE GRANT THAT WE'RE ASKING TO PUT IN FOR IS FOR $60,768.

THIS IS A REIMBURSABLE GRANT.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE TO PUT THE MONEY UP FRONT AND THEN VDEM WILL REPLACE THE FUNDS.

SO THIS IS A REIMBURSABLE IT'S 100% PAID FULL COST.

BUT WE HAVE TO RE PUT THE MONEY UP FRONT FOR IT.

SO WE HAVE BATTALION CHIEF TAFLINGER HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ON WHAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE WERE HE FOUND THE SHORTFALLS DEVELOPED A FIVE YEAR PLAN, A VERY GOOD FIVE YEAR PLAN TO SPREAD THIS OVER FIVE YEARS.

BUT WITH THIS GRANT THAT CAME UP THIS YEAR, WE'RE ABLE TO KNOCK IT OUT.

AND WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT SUBMITTED BY JULY 19TH.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO. NO, SIR, MR. COX.

NO, SIR. MR. BROWN.

NO, SIR. MRS. WAYMACK. NO QUESTIONS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE ALLOW THEM TO PUT IN FOR THE GRANT.

I'LL SECOND.

IT'S NOT. YOU GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. BROWN? YES.

MR. COX? YES, MR. PUGH? YES. MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. HE'S GOT.

HE'S RIGHT UP NEXT.

I'LL JUST STAND RIGHT HERE.

YOU'RE NEXT. APPROVAL OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY CONTINUITY AND OPERATIONS.

PLAN TO COOP PLAN IN EUROPE.

OKAY THIS PLAN HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 2009 FOR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PLAN.

LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND WHY THIS PLAN IS IMPORTANT AND WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HERE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE CONTINUITY PLAN OF OPERATION IS.

IF WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN TO ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS OR THIS FACILITY AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO OPERATE IT, HOW WOULD WE CONTINUE TO OFFER THIS SERVICES TO THE TO THE CITIZENS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY? THIS PLAN LAYS THAT PLAN OUT WHAT WE WOULD DO.

THIS PLAN IS DEVELOPED BY EACH DEPARTMENT.

IT'S UNUSUAL. LIKE ANY OTHER PLAN, EACH DEPARTMENT DEVELOPS A PLAN.

IF FINANCE IS NOT ABLE TO OPERATE OUT OF THEIR FACILITY OR THEY HAVE SHORTFALLS WITH STAFFING, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE? TREASURY'S OFFICE? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE? SO THEY DEVELOP A PLAN, WHICH WE WOULD MANAGE THAT PLAN TO HELP THEM CONTINUE THAT CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS SO THAT THE COUNTY CITIZENS WOULD NOT LOSE ANY SERVICE OR PERIOD OF SERVICE.

WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, VIRGINIA BEACH HAD AN INCIDENT THAT AFFECTED THEIR MAIN BUILDING, THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

WHAT THEY FOUND OUT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO USE THAT BUILDING FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY STRUGGLED WITH.

THEY STRUGGLED WITH HOW THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO COLLECT TAXES.

AND HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO OUR BASIC SERVICE UTILITIES AND OTHER OPERATIONS, EVEN DOING THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WERE AFFECTED AND THEY HAD NO PLAN IN PLACE.

SO THE STATE'S BEEN PUSHING THIS PLAN FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ON SOME TYPE OF PLAN, AND PRINCE GEORGE IS WELL AHEAD OF THE GAME.

IF WE LOOK AT THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN OUR AREA, THEY'RE STILL IN THE WORKS OF DEVELOPING THIS, THEIR PLAN.

WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME.

AND WE GOT THIS PLAN DEVELOPED NOT BY ME, BY EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT ALREADY HAD A PLAN IN PLACE, OR I SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND HELPED DEVELOP THEIR PLAN FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS THAT WE ADOPT, THAT WE HAVE A PLAN, AND THAT IT'S MANAGED BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO COORDINATE.

AND WHAT THAT POSITION WOULD DO IF SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN TO THIS FACILITY OR SOMETHING WOULD HAPPEN TO A UTILITIES, I WOULD JUMP IN AND HELP SUPPORT THEIR NEEDS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BACK UP AND RUNNING IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, CREATING THAT RESILIENCE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.

SO I WOULD COORDINATE WITH THEIR PLAN.

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THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNLESS THEY'RE LISTENING TONIGHT, BUT THEY'RE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

THEY'RE GOING TO START RECEIVING EMAILS.

YOUR DEPARTMENT NOW IS SHUT DOWN.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO OPERATE? AND THEY MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEST IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF TREASURY'S OFFICE IS SHUT DOWN, THE SPRINKLER HEAD GOES OFF, FLOODS THE FACILITY OVERNIGHT.

WE CALL THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T WORK OUT OF YOUR OFFICE.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WORK? IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE PLANS FOR PEOPLE TO WORK FROM HOME, HOW WELL WILL THAT WORK? DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK FROM HOME? IS EVERYTHING HOOKED UP THE WAY THEY NEED OR IF THEY WORK OUT OF THE CWC AND THEY CARRY THEIR STUFF THROUGH? THE CWC IS ALL THAT COMPATIBLE.

IT'LL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THE EVENT OCCURS THAT WE HAVE A PLACE AND PLAN THAT WE DON'T LOSE CONTINUE OF OPERATIONS ON ANY ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. A LOT OF WORK PUT IN BY ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

WE ARE ASKING THAT.

IT'S NOT LIKE THE TYPICAL PLAN WHERE YOU ALL HAVE TO APPROVE IT EVERY YEAR OR EVERY FOUR YEARS, LIKE THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT IS PUT, PUT AND MANAGED UNDER THE EMERGENCY OPERATION.

OPERATION EMERGENCY MANAGER TO HELP COORDINATE THE PROGRAM.

BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU'D HAVE A PLAN, BUT IT'S MORE OF A PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT.

AND I'M SURE THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS.

MR. COX. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.

AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS I'VE HAD.

I'VE DONE THESE BEFORE AT WORK, AND I KNOW WHAT GOES INTO THEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR 400 PAGES.

YES, IT IS, AND IT'S A LOT TO KEEP UP WITH.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON IT AND EVERYBODY AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND GETTING TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY IS THANK YOU, MRS. WAYMACK. THANK YOU, MR. BEYER. YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME, MR. PUGH. I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS.

OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S A FIRE IN THE BUILDING, THAT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER.

WHERE WOULD YOU KNOW? WOULD A DEPARTMENT HEAD COME TO YOU AND Y'ALL IMPLEMENT THE PLAN? WOULD YOU BRING IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BEFORE SOMETHING WENT ON LIKE THIS? IS THAT DEFINED IN THE PLAN OR IS IT LEFT UP TO THE MAIN PLAN? IS I'M THE MAIN POINT OF CONTACT.

SO, IF I HAD AN INCIDENT JUST LIKE A HAZMAT INCIDENT, I WORK 24 HOURS A DAY.

YEP, THE PHONE'S AVAILABLE.

SO THEN I HAVE THIS PLAN AVAILABLE TO ME TO START CONTACTING THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

THAT'S ANOTHER AREA THAT THAT WHY WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT UP FOR UPDATING EVERY YEAR, BECAUSE THE STAFF CHANGING THOSE, THAT PART OF THE PLAN WOULD CHANGE ON A CONSTANT BASIS THAT I WOULD KEEP THAT UPDATED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE POINT OF CONTACT AND START WORKING FROM THE POINT THAT OCCURRED, LET'S SAY 2:00 IN THE MORNING.

WE HAD A FIRE HERE THAT I START OPERATING THE PLAN AS SOON AS I GET NOTIFIED.

OKAY. MR. BROWN, WELL, I WILL CONFESS I HAVE NOT READ YOUR FULL PLAN.

IT'S BUT ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE.

WILL, DOES THIS OR WILL THIS AT SOME POINT INCLUDE THAT CONTINUITY OF OPERATION FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AS WELL? IT'S IN HERE. THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP THEIR PLAN.

SO I'VE ALREADY STARTED THE TALKS WITH THE SCHOOLS TO HELP THEM GET THEM THEIR PLAN DEVELOPED.

WITH ALL THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, IT'S A STRUGGLE FOR THEM BECAUSE THAT THERE'S SUCH A BIG PART OF THE COUNTY.

CORRECT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT.

WHAT DO WE? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO IF THEY LOSE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO A TORNADO OR SOMETHING ALONG WEATHER EVENT? SO THERE'S A LOT OF A WHOLE LOT MORE PLANNING.

AND WE'RE SITTING DOWN AND DOING THOSE TALKS.

THIS PLAN WILL GROW AND GET BETTER AS THE YEARS GO ON.

OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN.

I'M SORRY I DID NOT READ ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.

I CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND.

I GOT A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. I READ THROUGH IT, AND I COULD HAVE MISINTERPRETED SOME OF IT.

SO DON'T TAKE OFFENSE TO IT.

I THINK IT'S A DOCUMENT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I ASKED.

I UNDERSTAND THIS RECORD IS NOT IF I'M STATING IT CORRECTLY IS NOT FOIBLE BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF IT.

RIGHT. AND THE SECURITY OF IT AND THAT THAT SECURITY FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED OR ANYBODY THAT'S IMPACTED PRIMARILY FOR SERVICES, NO ONE WHO'S GETTING WHAT OR WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. IF YOU HAD WHATEVER KIND OF DISTURBANCE YOU MIGHT HAVE WITH SOME OF THESE WACKOS OUT HERE NOWADAYS, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET THEM TO PLAY PLAYBOOK, RIGHT? BUT WHAT IS IN THE PACKET IS PUBLIC AT THIS.

THIS PART IS. YES. BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER DETAIL, SOMETHING WHERE I'M GETTING READY TO GO TO.

YEAH. WHAT YOU'VE GOT LISTED FOR LIKE WHEN YOU DO AN UPDATE, I UNDERSTAND NOT COMING BACK OR TELLING EVERYBODY EVERY DAY BECAUSE PERSONNEL CHANGES, EQUIPMENT MOVES AROUND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.

BUT IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MAJOR CHANGE IN THIS, WOULD THE BOARD AT LEAST BE BRIEFED ON IT SO WE WOULD KNOW THAT, HEY, WHAT WE'VE GOT OR THE BOOK WE GOT AT HOME OR WHATEVER SAYS, HEY, THIS HAS BEEN CHANGED.

ABSOLUTELY. THE SMALL INCIDENTAL STUFF, IT WOULD WORK THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO SOPS AND PROCEDURES.

ANY CHANGES TO THAT WOULD BE SENT OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH.

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HERE'S THE NEW UPDATES TO THE PLAN.

SO THE BOARD WOULD DEFINITELY BE A PART OF THAT.

BECAUSE IF SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENS, YOU ARE GOING TO PROBABLY BE THE SECOND PEOPLE TO GET THE PHONE CALL AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, YEAH, I KNOW THIS IS GOING ON AND I KNOW WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, SO ANY UPDATES THAT ARE DONE WILL BE SENT TO THE PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED, NOT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT TO THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

WELL, I NOTICED ON YOUR SUCCESSION PLAN AND WE'LL JUST DO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THAT'S KIND OF A NO BRAINER, BUT YOU'VE GOT DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM.

THIS KIND OF READS AS JUST ONE.

YEAH, WE CAN CHANGE THAT OR UPDATE THAT.

BUT THAT'S THE STANDARD FOR MOST COOPS PLANS THAT ARE DESIGNEE, YOU'LL SEE DESIGNEE FROM THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE DECISION RIGHT ON THE SPOT DURING AN EMERGENCY, AND THEN Y'ALL WOULD BE BRIEFED.

Y'ALL WOULD BE PULLED TOGETHER, JUST LIKE IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONAL PLAN.

ALL RIGHT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF IT'S IN MY HEAD, MOST LIKELY I'M GOING TO SAY IT.

YES, I WOULD RATHER BE THAT WAY.

YOUR THIRD ONE IS THE THIRD PERSON IN LINE IS THE CLERK TO THE BOARD.

NOW, MISS KNOTT, NO DISRESPECT OR NO DISRESPECT TO A FEMALE OR A MALE THAT MAY BE IN YOUR POSITION GOING FORWARD, BUT SHE NORMALLY DOES NOT.

AS TODAY'S WORLD GOES, SHE DOES NOT MAKE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONAL DECISIONS.

SHE FOLLOWS WHAT MR. STOKES AND OR ONE OF THE ASSISTANT DEPUTY DIRECTORS ASK HER TO FOLLOW UP OR COMMUNICATE.

I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED WITH THAT ONE.

AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, WHO IS THAT REFERENCE EXECUTIVE SYSTEM IS A NATIONAL FIRM.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'D SEE THE DESIGNEE OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

WOULD THAT BE ALONG? YEAH.

IT'S DONNA. OKAY.

WELL, I'M BEING STRAIGHT UP WITH THIS.

I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS WITH.

THAT WOULD BE NOTHING.

IT JUST ME. BUT THAT'S A HELL OF A POSITION TO TRY.

SAY, GOD, THE SKY FELL.

EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE SCRAMBLING ANYWAY.

BUT AND EVERYBODY HANDLES STRESS DIFFERENTLY OR THE SITUATIONS DIFFERENTLY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OR HAVEN'T BEEN DOING IT ON DAY TO DAY OR HAVE SOME YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO DRAW OFF OF.

IT MAY NOT GO WELL.

I WOULD EXPECT THAT WOULD BE.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO THROW THIS OUT HERE.

THE CHIEF OF POLICE, FOR INSTANCE, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE POLICE AND OR THE FIRE AND EMS FIT IN THIS.

I KNOW THEY PLAY A ROLE IN IT, A MAJOR ROLE IN IT.

BECAUSE OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE AROUND IT.

THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE INVOLVED, BUT I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ON IT UNLESS YOU CAN CLARIFY FOR ME.

YEAH. THOSE CONCESSION ON THAT PART YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT CAN BE SET UP ANY WAY WE WANT TO SET THEM UP.

WHOEVER YOU WANT UP FOR THE AUTHORITY NOW THE POLICE AND FIRE.

THEY'RE UNDER NYMPHS. THEY ALREADY HAVE A COMMAND STRUCTURE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. I THOUGHT THEY WERE.

THEY ALREADY HAVE A COMMAND STRUCTURE.

THEY ALREADY HAVE IT. WHEN IT COMES TO NATIONAL DISASTER EVENTS, A STANDARD.

THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DON'T HAVE A NATIONAL STANDARD.

SO WE HAVE TO LAY THAT OUT IN THE DOCUMENT.

SO FIRE POLICE, LIKE YOU SAID DO THIS ON A DAILY BASIS.

THEY DO. THEY'LL BE HANDLING THE EMERGENCY.

THEY HAVE SUCCESSION ORDERS AUTOMATICALLY, FOLLOWED BY A NATIONAL STANDARD.

I GUESS, TO FINISH UP ON WHAT I WAS SAYING, IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE SAME THING AT MY WORK.

I'M SURE HE'S GOT MR. COX, GOT THE SAME THING.

MR. PUGH IS PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO MR. BROWN. WE DO.

IN MY WORLD I'D PROBABLY BE FINE BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT ALL IN 40 SOME YEARS.

THAT MOST LIKELY WOULDN'T WORK WELL IN THIS REALM, BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS TO THOSE INCREASES.

TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHO TO CALL WITHOUT CONFUSION AND BE ABLE TO MAKE A SPLIT SECOND DECISION ON SOMETHING, ON WHO NEEDS TO DO WHAT RESOURCES OR WHATEVER. AND LET ME BE HONEST, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT IT TO DEATH.

THAT'S JUST SOME OF MY CONCERNS.

I FELT LIKE I OWED IT TO YOU TO TELL YOU, LET ME BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THERE'S GOING TO BE CHANGES COMING IN THE YEARS TO COME, THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, AND THE FOLLOWING, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXERCISE TO PLAN NOT ONLY THAT SHORTFALL THAT YOU MAY HAVE POINTED OUT, WE'RE GOING TO FIND OTHER SHORTFALLS.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO EXERCISE THE PLAN EXCESSIVE THAT THESE WHAT THEY HAVE WRITTEN DOWN IN THE PLAN.

THE OPERATION WILL ACTUALLY WORK.

AND ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP WOULD BE SOMETHING WOULD THAT PERSON BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT? BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE CHANGES THROUGHOUT THIS COMING YEAR, BECAUSE ONCE THEY START RECEIVING THEIR E-MAIL EMAILS AND START EXERCISING THOSE PLANS, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OUT, WELL, THAT DIDN'T WORK THEN LET'S FIX IT.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BLINDSIDE MR. STOKES, FOLKS. HE'S A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

HE KNOWS THESE PEOPLE A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN I DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, AND WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF AND WHAT THEY CAN HANDLE.

SO BASICALLY, I'D LEAN ON HIM, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK THAT.

YES. YEAH, BUT WE'LL FIND MORE AS THIS YEAR GOES ON.

WHERE WHERE THE PLAN NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

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I CAN SEND IT TO YOU ALL WITH THE UPDATES AND CHANGES.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO CHANGE ANYTHING. THAT'S UP TO MR. STOKES. I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT.

I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION TO GET CLARITY FROM YOU.

SINCE YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER.

YES, SIR, I FULLY UNDERSTAND.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR.

I WANT TO MOTION TO APPROVE.

YES. I'M IN A POSITION IF YOU ARE WILLING TO MOTION TO APPROVE SOMEBODY.

SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SECOND. IT'S NOT.

GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MR. COX.

YES, MR. PUGH? YES. MRS. WAYMACK. YES, MR. WEBB. YES.

MR. BROWN. YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME SIR. I KNOW IT'S WARM IN HERE, FOLKS.

WE GOT MAYBE SIX MORE ITEMS. NEXT IS RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE DCJS OPERATIONS.

CEASE FIRE GRANTS $93,190 TO THE FY 25 BUDGET POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MODIFY TO THE FY 2025 PRECISION CONTROL CHART.

ADDITION OF ONE OFF ONE POLICE OFFICER, MR. DREWRY. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.

THE POLICE CHIEF CAME TO YOU IN APRIL REQUESTING PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR A NO MATCH GRANT, AN OPERATION CEASE FIRE GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES.

YOU AUTHORIZED HIM APPLYING FOR IT, AND HE RECEIVED IT.

THIS GRANT WILL ADD ONE POLICE OFFICER TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WILL BE PAID FOR ENTIRELY BY GRANT FUNDS.

IT IS A TWO YEAR GRANT AND WE ARE REQUESTING APPROPRIATION OF HALF OF THE GRANT FUNDING $93,190 TO THE FY 25 BUDGET, AND WE ARE REQUESTING AN ADDITION OF A GRANT FUNDED POLICE OFFICER TO THE POSITION CONTROL CHART.

THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THAT ACCOMPLISHES BOTH OUR REQUESTS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AND I'M SURE CHIEF EARLEY IS AS WELL.

MR. COX, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. PUGH? NO QUESTIONS.

MR. BROWN? NO QUESTIONS, SIR.

MRS. WAYMACK.

NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE GOT A GRANT.

I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IT.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION IF Y'ALL ARE READY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND MR. NOW WE GOT A MOTION. AND SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. PUGH. YES, MRS. WAYMACK? YES, MR. WEBB? YES, MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. COX. YES.

ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE DCJS OPERATION CEASEFIRE GRANT FUNDING FOR $82,191 TO THE FY 25 BUDGET.

THIS IS COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND MODIFY TO THE FY 2025 POSITION CONTROL CHART.

CONTINUATION OF A GRANT FUNDED ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY MR. DREWRY. YES, SIR.

ARE YOU PRETTY MUCH SPELLED IT OUT AGAIN? I'M LEARNING THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY CAME TO YOU AT THAT SAME APRIL MEETING, AND YOU GRANTED HER AUTHORITY TO APPLY FOR OPERATION CEASE FIRE GRANT NUMBER THREE FOR HER.

THIS WILL BE HER THIRD OPERATION CEASE FIRE GRANT THAT SHE'S BEEN AWARDED.

AND THIS PARTICULAR POT OF GRANT FUNDING WILL CONTINUE THE EMPLOYMENT OF A GRANT FUNDED POSITION BEING PAID FOR BY THE FIRST OPERATION CEASE FIRE GRANT.

THAT GRANT ENDS. THAT FIRST ONE ENDS AT THE AT DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

THIS GRANT FUNDING WILL CONTINUE EMPLOYMENT OF THAT ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.

THE CURRENT POSITION IS SHARED BETWEEN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF HOPEWELL.

IN JANUARY, IT WILL JUST BE A PRINCE GEORGE POSITION THAT'S FUNDED WITH THIS GRANT FUNDING.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT AGAIN, WE ARE REQUESTING, APPROPRIATION OF PART OF THE FUNDING AND ALSO A MODIFICATION TO THE POSITION CONTROL CHART THAT INDICATES CONTINUATION OF THE GRANT FUNDED POSITION.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

MRS. WAYMACK. NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MA'AM. ALL RIGHT GUYS, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

MOTION AND SECOND. MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES, MR..

WEBB. YES, MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. COX. YES.

MR. P YES.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE KROGER OPIOID SETTLEMENT.

MRS. ERARD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD I AM ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET SO THAT WE CAN RECEIVE SETTLEMENT MONEY FROM KROGER AS A PART OF THE CLASS ACTION OPIOID LITIGATION.

I. MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

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MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MISS WAYMACK.

YES, MR. PUGH? YES, MR. COX? YES, MR. BROWN? YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE RECONSIDERATION OF CONDITION FOR SPECIAL AGAIN.

I'LL SKIP ONE. OH.

I'M SORRY. SORRY, FOLKS.

I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF.

AUTHORITY TO. KNOW THAT WAS A THIS IS THIS ONE HERE.

I STARTED READING AUTHORITY TO INITIATE PROPER AGREEMENT.

REFERENCE. YOU'RE RIGHT. REFERENCE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ADVERTISED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

MRS. ERARD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S MY FAULT.

ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO, THERE WERE SOME PROFFERS THAT WERE ACCEPTED AS PART OF A REZONING BY THE COUNTY.

AND PART OF THOSE PROFFERS WERE THAT MR. JONES, THE DEVELOPER, WAS GOING TO GIVE LAND TO THE COUNTY FOR A FIRE STATION.

AND AFTER MANY YEARS OF DELIBERATION, THE COUNTY HAS DECIDED THAT THIS LOCATION REALLY DOESN'T WORK AND THAT THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WOULD BE MORE OPTIMAL.

MR. JONES ASKED THAT THIS BE REMOVED FROM THE PROFFERS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT SOMEBODY TO COME TO HIM IN TEN, 15, 20 YEARS AND SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO GIVE US THIS LAND.

AND BECAUSE HE MADE A GENEROUS OFFER OF DONATING THE LAND TO THE COUNTY, AND BECAUSE IT DID TAKE A WHILE FOR THE COUNTY TO GIVE HIM A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED THAT THE COUNTY PAY FOR THE COST OF ADVERTISING THE PROFFER AMENDMENT, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED THE BOARD'S APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE THE INITIATION OF THE PROFFER AMENDMENT AND TO REFER IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN IT WILL COME TO THE BOARD FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THE SPECIFIC PROFFER IS NUMBER NINE WHICH IS A 2.49 ACRE PARCEL.

IT'S THAT PARAGRAPH, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

NO, SIR. SO I JUST NEED A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE HER OUT, MRS. WAYMACK. NO QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, NOW TAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADVERTISE.

I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

IT'S NOT. GOT A MOTION A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. PUGH. YES, MR. COX? YES. MR. BROWN? YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE IS NOW BACK ON TRACK.

RECONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONS FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUESTS.

SC DASH 24.

DASH ZERO FOUR. TRIUMPH DE SUPPORT.

MRS. ERARD. AGAIN? YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE MAY BE SOME INTEREST IN MODIFYING THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING FOR SC 20 404.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THAT ZONING MATTER AND THEN A SEPARATE VOTE ON THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS IF IT'S THERE'S A SUCCESSFUL VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD VOTE TO RECONSIDER.

SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

THE CONDITIONS ON SPECIAL EXCEPTION 2404.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND? MY SECOND. OH, I CAN'T EVER TELL.

I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT, I GOT A MOTION SECOND.

MR KNOTT. CALL THE ROLL.

MR. COX? NO, MR. BROWN. YES.

MR.. WEBB.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK. YES, MR. PUGH? NO.

NO. ALL RIGHT.

AND. AND SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TEN.

AND THAT WOULD REMOVE THE CONDITION OF A 12 MONTH EXPIRATION ON THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

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NOT ON. OH, I GOT YOU.

YES. GOT YOU. I'M SORRY.

UNDER ORDER OF BUSINESS. YEAH. I'M LOOKING AT BOARD DOCS.

YEAH. ACTUALLY I MISSPOKE.

IT'S ITEM NUMBER NINE OKAY.

YES. IT'S IT'S REALLY SMALL PRINT ON THE COMPUTER.

AND YOU WERE JUST TRYING TO TEST ME.

I NEED TO GET MY EYES CHECKED.

AND SO AT AT THE MEETING LAST MONTH, THERE WAS ANOTHER CONDITION ADDED THAT THE PERMIT OR THE EXCEPTION WOULD EXPIRE IN A YEAR.

AND IF THE BOARD WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO MODIFY THE CONDITIONS OR REMOVE THAT THE BOARD IS NOW IN A POSITION TO DO SO.

ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? NO. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT, MR. BROWN, YOU GOT THE FLOOR.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORDING FROM THAT NIGHT, I WAS EXTREMELY HESITANT IN HOW I RESPONDED OR IN RESPONDING THAT NIGHT.

AND MY MAIN CONSIDERATION WAS I DID NOT WANT THE APPLICANT TO FEEL THAT WE DID NOT WANT THEIR BUSINESS HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

BUT I THINK IF I HAD VOTED NO, THAT WOULD HAVE VOTED TO KILL THAT MOTION AND THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

THERE ARE THINGS IN PLACE.

I HAD SOME TIME TO SPEND TALKING WITH MR. BALDWIN ON THE PHONE THE OTHER DAY, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.

I'M, I DON'T I'M, I'M AGAINST THE THE EXPIRATION OF THIS CONDITION THAT WE PUT ON THERE FOR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

AND ALSO THE CLOCK STARTED TICKING A MONTH AGO.

AND THEY HAVE NOT EVEN OPENED THEIR BUSINESS YET.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, WHAT IF IT TOOK ANOTHER SIX MONTHS FOR THEM TO GET GOING? THAT MEANS THEY'LL ONLY BE ABLE TO OPERATE FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION WOULD EXPIRE.

I, I'M REALLY NOT SURE OF ANY BUSINESS OWNER OR POTENTIAL BUSINESS OWNER THAT WOULD WANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT AND GO INTO ANY PROPERTY WITH A ONE YEAR RESTRICTION WHERE THE CLOCK STARTED TICKING WELL BEFORE THEY DID ANYTHING.

SO THAT WAS MY REASONING FOR WANTING TO RECONSIDER THIS.

AND MAYBE WE CAN HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE, MR. BALDWIN OR WHOMEVER. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN PLACE THAT WOULD ADDRESS IF THERE'S CONCERNS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A GROUP HOME, THIS IS A DAYCARE, ADULT DAYCARE.

AND I DO ADMIT WE HAVE WE HAVE GROUP HOME ISSUES.

SO GOOD EVENING, MR. BALDWIN. GOOD EVENING.

I JUST WANT TO MENTION TO THE BOARD, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED WHEN WE DO SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AS THEY'RE LISTED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, ARE USES IN WHICH THE BOARD IS ANTICIPATED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE EXTRA CARE AND TAKING A LOOK AT IT.

BUT WE PROVIDE TWO STANDARD CONDITIONS AND JUST ABOUT EVERY SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD.

ONE WOULD BE THAT IF THE CONDITIONS IN THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION ARE VIOLATED, OR IF THERE'S SOME LAW BROKEN, THE BOARD RESERVES THE RIGHT TO REVOKE THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S A STANDARD CONDITION YOU GET WITH YOUR SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.

THE OTHER ONE, THERE'S A CONDITION WE TYPICALLY PUT IN THERE THAT WOULD CAUSE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO EXPIRE BASICALLY ON THEIR OWN IF THEY'RE ABANDONED. THE TYPICAL PERIOD OF TIME WE PUT IN THERE IS TWO YEARS.

SO IF AN APPLICANT DID NOT USE THE BUILDING OR THE PROPERTY FOR WHAT? THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD WITHIN A TWO YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION WOULD EXPIRE.

SO THERE'S SOME OF THOSE I CALL THEM SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE KIND OF BUILT IN THAT DON'T ALLOW THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO LIVE ON FOREVER, WHETHER THE APPLICANT'S EXERCISED IT OR WHETHER THEY'RE OPERATING IN VIOLATION.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. BALDWIN. YOUR OFFICE MONITORS STUFF LIKE THIS.

SO IF YOU WERE TO FIND AN EXCEPTION, IT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD.

YES, WE WOULD. WE WOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.

AND GENERALLY WHAT HAPPEN IS YOU, YOU KNOW, ADVISE THE THE OPERATOR OR THE APPLICANT, THEY ARE NOT OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPROVED CONDITIONS OF THEIR SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

AND IF THAT'S NOT RECTIFIED, THEN THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK THROUGH THE TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER REVOCATION OF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T COMPLY.

AND I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS OVER MY TENURE THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT AND THEY'VE EITHER COMPLIED OR WE'VE HAD TO PULL IT BACK.

I WOULD ASSUME YOU HAVE.

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I DIDN'T MEAN TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT THAT, BUT NO, NO, I'M NOT AWARE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY GOT.

EXCUSE ME. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I GOT A COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.

YES, SIR. IT WASN'T MY INTENT AT THE LAST MEETING TO PUT A EXPIRATION DATE.

IT WAS TO HAVE THEM COME BACK TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE WAY THINGS WERE.

AND IF AT THAT TIME WE SAW PROBLEMS, WE COULD ADDRESS THEM WITH THEM.

I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.

WE ONLY NOTIFIED SIX PROPERTY OWNERS, FOUR OF WHICH DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE COUNTY.

AND WE'VE GOT A VERY LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE GOT APARTMENTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVEN GIVEN PEOPLE IN CHESTER LAKES FAIR WARNING OF WHAT'S GOING ON, TO EVEN HAVE A CHANCE TO COME AND SPEAK.

BUT THAT WAS MY INTENT WAS, AND I THINK IT WAS MR. PUGH'S INTENT THAT THEY WOULD COME BACK IN A YEAR, GIVE US AN UPDATE.

AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IF EVERYTHING WAS GOOD, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.

I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO GIVE US OFF RAMPS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS WE DO HAVE.

MR. BROWN STATED THE PROBLEMS WITH THE GROUP HOMES.

WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THOSE.

AND THAT'S ALL IT IS.

IT'S I MEAN, AGAIN, I WANT YOUR BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY AND IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY SAYING IN 12 MONTHS YOU'RE GONE.

THE ONLY WAY I COULD SAY THAT WOULD BE IF YOU'RE HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME AND YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, THEN WE WOULD SEND YOU OUT OF THE COUNTY.

BUT THAT WAS MY INTENT.

IT'S NOT TO PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM COMING HERE.

IT'S JUST TO GIVE US SOME SAFEGUARDS, HAVE THEM COME BACK TO US AND GIVE US A REPORT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING TOLD WE'RE DEALING WITH MENTALLY DEVELOPABLE DEVELOPMENTAL ISSUES AND PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENTAL ISSUES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF MENTAL DEVELOPMENTAL ISSUES ARE WE DEALING WITH, TO WHAT DEGREE? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THAT WASN'T IN OUR ORIGINAL PACKET.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE ANSWERED.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS MY INTENT IS NOT TO CHASE THEM OUT OF THE COUNTY.

IT WAS TO HAVE THEM COME BACK IN 12 MONTHS AND GIVE US AN UPDATE.

AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD MAKE OUR DECISION AND AND ROCK AND ROLL WITH IT, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE ROCKING AND ROLLING WITH IT.

SO THAT'S MY $0.02.

MR.. MR.. ROCK, IF I.

EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR.. ROCK, BASED ON WHAT? BECAUSE I ASKED YOU THAT QUESTION AFTER THE MEETING.

I SAID, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? AND I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT THAT'S NOT THE IMPRESSION I GOT BY THE STIPULATION THAT WE PLACED.

I THOUGHT WHEN WE SAID EXPIRE, THAT MEANS THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS DONE AND SHE WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY. YES, SIR.

INITIALLY, AS I RECALL, MR. PUGH SAID. REVIEW.

AND THEN FOR CLARIFICATION, I ASKED WHETHER HE MEANT REVIEW OR HAVE IT EXPIRE IN 12 MONTHS.

AND MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT MR. PUGH SAID EXPIRE.

AND SO IF IT EXPIRES IN 12 MONTHS, THEN YOU DO HAVE TO REAPPLY.

IF YOU'RE JUST REVIEWING IT.

AT THAT TIME, THE ANY OF THE CONDITIONS COULD NOT BE MODIFIED OR REVOKED, BUT YOU CERTAINLY COULD PUT A CONDITION IN THERE THAT THE APPLICANT COME BACK IN A YEAR AND GIVE A STATUS UPDATE ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE, LET'S SAY A YEAR FROM NOW, THE APPLICANT COMES BACK AND THERE THERE'S A DESIRE TO REVOKE THE PERMIT OR AMEND THE CONDITIONS. AT THAT TIME, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE BOARD, IN ORDER TO MODIFY THE CONDITIONS.

AND IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, IS IT TYPICAL THAT THAT REVIEW PROCESS TAKES PLACE WITH THE BOARD, OR IS THAT A REVIEW THAT SHOULD TAKE PLACE WITH MR. BALDWIN'S DEPARTMENT? I'VE SEEN IT DONE BOTH WAYS, HONESTLY.

YES, SIR. I GOT A QUESTION BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND MR. COX'S CONCERNS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE GROUP HOMES THE LAW MAY HAVE CHANGED.

WE PUSH BACK ON THAT WITHOUT GETTING TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS.

I'M SURE YOU KNOW WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU COULD PUT IT IN SOMEWHAT LAYMAN TERMS, AND WE REALLY HAD NO AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT, AND I REALIZE IT IS A STRAIN ON THE POLICE.

IT IS NOT WELCOMED IN A LOT.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GOT TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.

I GET THAT, OKAY.

BUT IS THAT NOT SOMEWHAT WITHOUT ME GETTING TOO DEEP, DEEP IN THE LEGAL JARGON? YOU ARE CORRECT IN THAT THE REQUEST FOR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION COULD NOT BE DENIED BASED ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

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IT COULD BE DENIED FOR OTHER REASONS.

BUT NOT BASED ON THE PEOPLE AND ANY DISABILITIES THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.

AND THIS IS JUST STRICTLY A DAYTIME FACILITY.

IF I UNDERSTOOD THE LADY BECAUSE I WAS REMOTE.

NOT THE GROUP HOME, WHICH IS BASICALLY 24 OVER SEVEN, AS OPPOSED TO HAVE A SUPERVISOR THERE AT ALL TIMES, WHATEVER.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS THIS.

DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK? OKAY. FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I STATED SOMETHING WRONG.

MA'AM. YOU COME, YOU COME FORWARD.

HELLO TO EVERYONE.

YES. SO YOU ARE CORRECT.

BUT WE'RE WE ARE OPERATING ONLY AS A DAY SUPPORT SERVICE IN THAT LOCATION.

IT WOULD NOT BE A 24 HOUR RAN FACILITY.

WE DO THAT AND WE HAVE BEEN.

WE WERE IN PRINCE GEORGE. WE HAVE BEEN IN PRINCE GEORGE AS A GROUP HOME FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS.

WE RECENTLY JUST SOLD THAT PROPERTY.

AND WE'VE BEEN WE SUCCESSFULLY RAN A GROUP HOME, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THIS LOCATION.

THIS LOCATION WOULD BE SOLELY FOR DAY SUPPORT SERVICES FOR ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES.

NOT TRYING TO ASK A QUESTION FOR MR. COX. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT LEVEL AND I MIGHT ADD ONE MORE TO IT IS, IS VETERANS INCLUDED IN THIS IN SOME OF THESE ADULT SERVICES BASED ON WHATEVER THEY MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED? NO, OUR SERVICES DON'T COVER VETERANS.

BUT OUR SERVICES THEY CAN RANGE FROM A PERSON WHO'S SEVERE WHAT THEY WOULD CALL SEVERE ID TO MODERATE OR MILD. BUT OUR SERVICES ARE HIGHLY SUPERVISED AND WE HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH DOING SUPERVISION THE ENTIRE TIME THEY'RE IN OUR PROGRAM.

SO THESE PROGRAMS, THIS SERVICE IS NOT AN INDEPENDENT PROGRAM WHERE THEY ARE ROAMING AROUND.

WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A STRUCTURED DAY PROGRAM, STRUCTURED COMMUNITY INCLUSION, COMMUNITY INTEGRATION.

SO IT'S NOT A PROGRAM WHERE CLIENTS ARE ROAMING AROUND.

AND ANYONE THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A HEALTH AND SAFETY RISK.

WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF DISCHARGING THEM OUT OF OUR PROGRAM.

LIKE IF WE FELT LIKE THEY WOULD BE A RISK FOR OUR PROGRAM OR FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY DISCHARGE OUT OF OUR PROGRAM.

AND FOR MY EDUCATION, WHEN YOU SAY NOT ROAMING AROUND, THAT MEANS THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH IN THE BUILDING.

YES. GOT STRUCTURED.

WHATEVER WE DO, WE DO WANT TO PROMOTE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, WHICH WOULD BE ANYTHING THAT ANY OF US WOULD WANT TO DO COOKOUTS, THAT TYPE OF THING.

BUT PRIMARILY OUR SERVICES INDOOR.

IT'S WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE COMMUNITY BASED AND NON CENTER BASED, CENTER BASED AND NON CENTER BASED.

SO SOME GROUPS OF PEOPLE GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN SOME THAT ARE STAYING IN FOR STRUCTURED SKILL BUILDING ACTIVITIES OKAY.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE.

OH. OH, YES.

I'M SORRY, IT'S LASHONDA POWELL.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT I APPRECIATE IT.

MR. BROWN, WERE YOU BASED ON THE STIPULATION OR CONDITION, LET ME LET ME SAY IT THAT WAY.

THE CONDITION THAT WE RULED ON A MONTH AGO.

I MEAN, CAN'T CAN YOU JUST SHARE FOR A MOMENT HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD IMPACT YOUR BUSINESS OR YOUR POTENTIAL OF YOUR BUSINESS? YES. SO WE'VE BEEN OPERATING RESIDENTIAL GROUP HOMES AND DAY SUPPORT SINCE 2007 SUCCESSFULLY.

BUT THIS DOES IMPACT US BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GO FROM RENTING A SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN IN SINCE TECHNICALLY 2009 OFF OF CRATER ROAD, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PURCHASE THIS BUILDING.

SO THE PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING COMES WITH, OF COURSE, A LOT OF RISK SECURING OUR LOANS, OUR GRANTS.

ACTUALLY RENOVATING OUR THIS NEW LOCATION.

WE WERE NOT RENTING IT.

IT'S ACTUALLY A A BUILDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE.

SO NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE SECURITY FOR OUR SERVICE MODEL IS DETRIMENTAL BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE PURCHASING IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF RUNNING OUR DAY SUPPORT SERVICES.

SO IT REALLY KILLS OUR ABILITY TO PURCHASE THE BUILDING IF WE CAN'T ACTUALLY SECURE AND RUN THE PROGRAM.

AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE 2007.

SO THIS IS NOT A NEW SERVICE OR A NEW WE'RE NOT NEW TO THIS.

SO THIS WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US.

AND I'M ON BEHALF AS A BUYER, BUT MR. JAMES IS HERE AS THE SELLER.

LIKE THIS. THIS WHOLE STIPULATION HAS BEEN VERY STRESSFUL FOR US, TRYING TO NAVIGATE HOW THIS WOULD CHANGE OUR BUSINESS MODEL.

[02:25:01]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS LADY? YES, SIR. MISS POWELL, HOW ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT? I'M DOING FINE. HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING FINE. IT WAS NEVER MY INTENT TO MAKE YOU FEEL THAT WAY.

OKAY. WHATSOEVER.

A LOT OF THINGS WERE SAID.

I WANT YOUR BUSINESS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE CITIZEN IN THE SAME SENSE.

YES. YOU KNOW THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT YOUR FACILITY? I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE.

AND FOR A FIRE DEPARTMENT OR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT NOT TO GO TO A GROUP HOME OR DAYCARE FACILITY.

THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES IN ITSELF.

THAT IS ONE REASON WHY I VOTED TO ACCEPT IT IN THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THE WHOLE ONE YEAR EXPIRATION, THAT MIGHT HAVE GOT A LITTLE MISCONSTRUED, CONSTRUED.

THAT WAS MORE OR LESS I WANTED TO IMPLY A REVIEW.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT INDIVIDUALS THAT SOMETIMES THAT CAN GET OUT OF CONTROL, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT FIRE MS. YOU MAY HAVE TO T'DO SOMEBODY, YOU MAY HAVE TO SPEND TIME WITH THEM AT THE HOSPITAL, ETC.

AND THAT TIES UP THE CITIZENS RESOURCES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT WAS NEVER A A STAB TO GET YOU NOT TO COME TO PRINCE GEORGE.

IT WAS JUST A.

HEY, I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND THE CITIZENS RESOURCES FOR FUTURE BUSINESSES.

IT'S JUST LIKE IF A CHEMICAL PLANT WANTED TO COME DOWN THE STREET AND BRING HARMFUL CHEMICALS.

I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING.

NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.

I THINK YOU RUN A GREAT SHIP.

AND I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS TONIGHT.

SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND, MR. PUGH, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? AND SO WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH A ONE YEAR REVIEW FROM THE DATE THAT THEY OPEN? BECAUSE THAT TRULY GIVES THEM A ONE YEAR OF OPERATION.

ABSOLUTELY. BUT MY OTHER PART OF IT IS I THINK THAT INITIAL REVIEW WOULD BE DONE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND THEN IF THEY FEEL THAT THAT WARRANTS THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THAT THEY THEN WOULD BECAUSE THAT'S THE THAT'S THEIR PROCESS.

ABSOLUTELY. THEY WOULD THEN BRING THOSE THINGS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD FOR US TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER AT THAT TIME.

I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, MR. BROWN. I THINK I CAN AGREE TO THAT.

IT'S JUST I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DOING RIGHT BY OUR CITIZENS, RIGHT BY THE I CAN THE BUSINESS OWNER AND MOVING THE CAMP.

I CAN UNDERSTAND, YES, SIR.

NOW, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN A FACILITY LIKE THIS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE.

YES, SIR. AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE PRECAUTION.

NOT A PROBLEM. AND THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED MR. BALDWIN'S OFFICE. BECAUSE THEY DO THIS EVERY DAY.

ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE, I HAVE MY HANDS FULL WORKING FROM HOME, SO IF HE WANTS TO BRING SOMETHING TO OUR ATTENTION, THEN I THINK THEY HAVE SEEN SOME THINGS THAT MAKE THEM FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, THE OTHER THING TOO, IT'S LIKE TONIGHT IT'S BEEN DRILLED IN MY HEAD.

IT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

ONCE IT'S THERE, IT'S THERE FOR LIFE.

AND THEN MR. BALDWIN GETTING CLEARED UP SUNDAY, CLEARING UP, SAYING NO.

IF THEY VIOLATE SOMETHING, IT CAN BE REMOVED.

HE HE CLEARED UP SOME THINGS FOR ME WHEN I CALLED HIM THE OTHER DAY.

ALL OF THAT. YEAH. SO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YES, MRS. WAYMACK. OKAY.

I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WITH.

ALL RIGHT. NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IF THERE IS NO MORE DISCUSSION, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD MODIFY THAT CONDITION WE PUT ON THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO WHERE IT WOULD BE REVIEWED WITHIN ONE YEAR FROM WHEN THEY OPEN, AND THAT REVIEW WOULD BE DONE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, KNOWING THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING, THEY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE ALREADY TO BRING THAT BEFORE THE BOARD, AM I IN ORDER? AND THAT WOULD BE IN LIEU OF THE ONE YEAR EXPIRATION, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE IN THAT IN LIEU OF THAT ONE YEAR EXPIRATION.

THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. HEARD A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND IT.

ALL RIGHT. MISS KNOTT GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. WEBB.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

MR. PUGH. YES.

MR. COX YES.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, AT AT THE RISK OF BEING CONTROVERSIAL, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE PEOPLE SITTING WITH THE APPLICANT IS A SAINT LOUIS CARDINALS FAN. I WAS BORN IN SAINT LOUIS.

I HOPE THAT WORKS FOR YOU. IT DOES NOT.

I HOPE THAT WORKS FOR YOU.

I'M DRAG RACING.

I DON'T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL.

BASEBALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NOW, IF YOU HAD SAID THERE WERE A COMMANDER'S FAN, THEN WE COULD HAVE HAD A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

NOW IT'S 20 TO 9.

I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

[02:30:02]

YOU GET SIDETRACKED LATER.

OH. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ONE IS RESOLUTION APPROPRIATION TO THE FY 25 BUDGET OF INCREASED STATE REVENUES OF $127,070.

STATE COMPENSATION BOARD REVENUES OF $86,750, AND DCJS HOUSE BILL 599 POLICE FUNDS OF 40,003 20. TRANSFERRED FROM GENERAL FUND.

CONTINGENCY OF $36,900 FOR REQUIRED LOCAL PORTION OF SALARY AND BENEFITS ADDED TO STATE COMPENSATION BOARD FUNDING.

ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY AND CHANGE TO THE FY 2425 POSITION CHART.

MR.. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.

AS AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DID NOT APPROVE THEIR FY 25 STATE BUDGET DURING THE REGULAR SESSION.

THEY TOOK ACTION ON THE BUDGET ON MAY 15TH, BUT THE INFORMATION FROM THE STATE HAD NOT BEEN FILTERED TO THE COUNTY.

BY THE TIME YOU ADOPTED YOUR BUDGET ON MAY 28TH.

WE INCLUDED ESTIMATES USING THE BEST INFORMATION WE HAD AVAILABLE AT THE TIME YOU DID ADOPT, AND WE DID INCLUDE A 3% MANDATED PAY INCREASE ON STATE FUNDED SALARY FOR FUNDED, STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES, EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, AND OFFSETTING STATE REVENUE ESTIMATES.

SO WE DID REVIEW OUR STATE REVENUE AS WE RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE VARIOUS FUNDING AGENCIES, SOCIAL SERVICES, THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS, THE VIRGINIA COMPENSATION BOARD FOR OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES, AND FUNDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES FOR THE POLICE.

HOUSE BILL 599 FUNDS THE VICTIM WITNESS GRANT, OUR COMMUNITY CORRECTION GRANTS, WHICH SUPPORTS RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY SOCIAL SERVICES.

WE INCLUDED A 2.118 MILLION IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET, AND WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES.

I MET WITH MISS JUDGE.

WE INCLUDED WHAT WE NEEDED TO INCLUDE FOR THEM, ALONG WITH THEIR 3% INCREASE EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST.

SO NO CHANGES FOR SOCIAL SERVICES.

THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS.

WE INCLUDED NEARLY 102,000 FOR THAT OFFICE, THAT FUNDING SUPPORTS THE SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THE REGISTRAR AND THREE ELECTORAL BOARD MEMBERS.

NO CHANGE THERE.

OUR COMPENSATION BOARD FUNDED CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES, EMPLOYEES, SHERIFF, COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY, CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURT, TREASURER AND COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE.

THE BIG WINNER HERE WAS THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.

THE COMP BOARD DID A SALARY STUDY OR A WORKLOAD STUDY ACTUALLY, STATEWIDE, WHERE 29 ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEYS AND 18 PARALEGAL POSITIONS WERE ADDED STATEWIDE.

MISS FIERRO RECEIVED ONE ADDITIONAL ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY AND WILL BE RECEIVING NEARLY 83,000 MORE THAN WE INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET.

THERE WERE VARIOUS UPS AND DOWNS, AND THE OTHER OFFICES AND COMP OK TOTAL IS $86,750 INCREASE.

BUT AGAIN, THE BIG WINNER IS THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.

AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF THE ACTION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS EVENING IS TO INCREASE REVENUES, AS ARE OUTLINED HERE, TO ADD AN ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY TO YOUR POSITION CONTROL CHART AND TO MAKE A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY TO FUND YOUR LOCAL PART OF THAT NEW COMP BOARD FUNDED POSITION FOR MISS FIERO.

SO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT EXPENDITURE AND REVENUES REQUESTED AN ADDITION OF ONE ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.

QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I MOVE ON.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

ALL GOOD. OKAY, MRS. WAYMACK. NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THE NEXT MOST SIGNIFICANT ITEM WAS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

DCJS DOES NOT RELEASE A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF ANY CHANGES TO HOUSE BILL 599 FUNDING.

WE DID RECEIVE LATE JUNE OR SOMETIME IN JUNE, THE UPDATED AMOUNT FOR PRINCE GEORGE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT IS $40,320 MORE THAN WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR ADOPTED BUDGET IN MAY.

CHIEF EARLEY HAS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED THAT THAT INCREASE IN OUR REVENUE BE CONSIDERED AND THAT WE, IN TURN, USE THOSE FUNDS TO INCREASE HIS PART TIME WAGE AND RELATED TAXES TO CONTINUE A TEMPORARY RECORDS CLERK IN HIS DEPARTMENT.

WE DON'T PUT PART TIME TEMP POSITIONS IN THE POSITION CONTROL CHART, SO THERE'S NO CHANGE REQUESTED THERE.

ALL RIGHT. AT THE TIME WELL, WE STILL WE STILL DO NOT HAVE A FINAL STATE AWARD FOR THE VICTIM WITNESS GRANT,

[02:35:03]

WHEN I SUBMITTED THIS ITEM, WE HAD NOT RECEIVED OUR CJA GRANT FUNDING.

WE ACTUALLY GOT THAT FINAL AWARD LAST WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, I THINK IT WAS.

AND IT'S $110 LESS THAN WHAT YOU ADOPTED.

SO IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT.

AND ACTUALLY, MR. STOKE CAN APPROVE THAT APPROPRIATION REDUCTION BECAUSE ANYTHING UP TO $5,000 HE CAN APPROVE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WANT ME TO BRING YOU BACK $110 CHANGE.

IF YOU DO, I CERTAINLY WILL.

BUT. BUT WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY.

SO AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS AN INCREASE IN THE COMP BOARD REVENUES, AN INCREASE IN HOUSE BILL 599 REVENUES ADDITION OF AN ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY WITH THE INCREASE IN STATE FUNDING OF 86 OR 87,000, AND THEN THE $36,900 TRANSFER FROM YOUR GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY FOR YOUR LOCAL PIECE OF THAT NEW POSITION, AND THEN AN INCREASE IN WAGES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THAT MAKES THE APPROPRIATION AND THE POSITION CONTROL CHART CHANGE THAT WE'VE ASKED LADIES FIRST TIME.

MRS. WAYMACK NO QUESTIONS.

MR. COX? NO, SIR.

HUGH? NO, SIR.

NO, SIR. MY ONLY COMMENT IS THE ONES PENDING.

WE'RE HOPEFUL WE'RE GOING TO GET IT BY CHRISTMAS.

RIGHT? THE STATE REVENUE.

AND IF IT'S UNDER 5000 BEING SMART, THEY PUT US UNDER THESE STIFF TIMELINES.

WE GOT TO HAVE THIS. WE GOT TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, AND WE GOT OUR RCGA GRANT NOTIFICATION LAST WEDNESDAY.

AND THEY GAVE US ESSENTIALLY THREE BUSINESS DAYS TO MAKE OUR AMENDMENT TO THE GRANT APPLICATION.

WE HAD TO HAVE THAT. SO SORRY FOLKS, YESTERDAY.

IT'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATING.

YEAH. EVERY YEAR.

ALL RIGHT GENTLEMEN LADIES WE'VE GOT A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION. SECOND.

SECOND AND A MOTION SECOND.

MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR FY 25 BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS TO INCREASE MACHINERY AND TOOL TAX REVENUES AND INCREASE IN TRANSFER TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND TO SUPPORT OUR ENTERPRISE ZONE REBATES.

$416,000. YES, SIR.

MR. DEVRIES GAVE A REPORT TO YOU THIS EVENING ON INCENTIVES THAT ARE OFFERED THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.

AND ESSENTIALLY, WE RECEIVED HIGHER MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX REVENUE IN FY 24 THE YEAR.

WE'RE JUST CLOSING OUT, BUT WE DON'T COLLECT THAT REVENUE, OR WE DON'T GET THE ASSESSED VALUE FOR THAT REVENUE FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE UNTIL ABOUT APRIL.

SO THAT INCREASE WILL CARRY INTO FY 25.

AS AND THE REBATE WILL AS WELL.

SO WE ARE REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN YOUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE AND MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX OF 416,000 ON ONE HAND. AND ON THE OTHER HAND, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE GENERAL FUND MAKE A TRANSFER TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND TO SUPPORT THE REBATE THAT GOES WITH THAT BUSINESS EXPANSION THAT OCCURRED TO CREATE THAT ADDITIONAL NT REVENUE.

SO IT'S AN ESSENTIALLY AN IN AND OUT.

WE ARE REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN REVENUE, BUT THEN WE ARE REQUESTING THAT SAME INCREASE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND SO THAT THAT REBATE CAN BE PAID TO THAT EXPANDED BUSINESS OWNER.

MARY, GOT ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I GOT ONE.

IS THIS ONLY IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE OF THE TOOL TAX, OR IS THAT COUNTYWIDE? IT'S IN THE ENTERPRISE ZONE, AS FAR AS I KNOW.

MR. PUGH. THAT LIMITED TO THAT THAT AREA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

MRS. WAYMACK. NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

WITH NO QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

SO MOVE. SECOND.

MISS, I GOT A MOTION. A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I BELIEVE THAT COMPLETED EVERYTHING ON THE LIST.

IF I HAVEN'T MISSED ANYTHING.

SO I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO AUGUST THE 13TH.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, MR. PUGH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.