[A. Call to Order (6:00 pm)]
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GOOD AFTERNOON. I'D LIKE TO CALL APRIL 9TH.
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TO ORDER.
[B. Business Meeting]
WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR INVOCATION BY MR. BROWN AND FOLLOWED UP BY A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY MR. PUGH. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS THIS AFTERNOON JUST TO SIMPLY SAY THANK YOU.THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US YET TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WATCHING AFTER EACH AND EVERY PERSON WATCHING AFTER OUR FIRE, OUR POLICE, OUR EMS, ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, AND ALL OF THE STAFF AND PERSONNEL THAT WORK HERE IN THE COUNTY.
AS WE'VE HAD ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
ANYONE LIKE TO COME FORTH AND SPEAK? YOU'D HAVE THREE MINUTES WHEN THE YELLOW LIGHT COMES ON.
PLEASE BE AWARE OF IT AND TRY TO FINISH UP.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS WILLIAM STEELE, COUNTY LINE ROAD.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'VE BEEN OBSERVING THE, AND THIS IS DIRECTLY TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'VE BEEN OBSERVING THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
WE GOT TO GET RID OF THIS THING.
MY OPINION IS WE ARE THE SUPERVISORS.
WE'RE THE ONES. YOU WORK FOR US.
WHEN I GO TO A TALK TO MY BOSS.
MY BOSS, I DON'T TELL MY BOSS.
OH, BOSS, I'VE ONLY GOT THREE MINUTES.
YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN AND HEAR ME.
YOU'VE BEEN PUSHING THEM VERY HARD.
I REALLY THINK THAT'S NOT NEEDED IN A PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS A GOVERNMENT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPRESS OURSELVES TO YOU AND FOR WHATEVER IT TAKES.
I KNOW, MISS LAYLA. YOU CUT HER OFF.
YOU CUT THE OTHER GUY OFF THE OTHER NIGHT.
PLEASE TRY TO CONTROL THIS A LITTLE BETTER.
I SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPRESS TO YOU AND TAKE THE TIME THAT I NEED TO EXPRESS TO YOU MY OPINIONS ABOUT HOW I'M SPENDING MY GOVERNMENT TAX DOLLARS HERE AND HOW YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. SO, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE SKILLS.
YOU CAN PUSH A PERSON ALONG IF THEY'RE DRAGGING ALONG, WHICH HAPPENS.
PEOPLE TALK AND TALK AND TALK BUT ASK YOU TO PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS THING.
THIS THIS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT.
NO CITIZEN SHOULD BE TOLD, HEY, YOU ONLY GOT THREE MINUTES.
WE DON'T WORK FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? GOOD EVENING. BOARD.
LILA MEYERS, 8711 SECOND COURT DISPUTANTA, VIRGINIA.
THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A PERENNIAL REQUEST.
BUT THE CONCERN EXISTS AND PERSISTS.
SO, I COME TO REMIND YOU AND REQUEST IN THE PRESENCE OF A VDOT REPRESENTATIVE TO CONDUCT A SAFETY STUDY OF THE INTERSECTION ON WAGNER COURTHOUSE ROUTE 460.
I KNOW IT'S A PETERSBURG, BUT ONE LIFE LOST IS TOO MUCH.
WE'VE HAD MORE THAN ONE LIFE LOST AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND I WITNESS VEHICLES FLYING RED LIGHTS ON THE WEEKLY BASIS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
WE'RE TALKING FROM PICKUP TRUCKS TO 18 WHEELERS TO TANKER TRAILERS.
THEY FLY OUT OF PRINCE GEORGE FROM FOUR 60 AND OUT OF PRINCE GEORGE FROM COURTHOUSE INTO PETERSBURG.
PRINCE GEORGE'S POLICE SITS TOO FAR BEHIND.
THEY SIT UNDERNEATH 295 BRIDGE OVER PASS.
WHATEVER THEY'RE TICKETING UNDER 295 OVER PASS.
BUT THEY CAN'T SEE RED LIGHT TANKER TRAILERS FLYING ACROSS INTERSECTION.
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I DON'T KNOW IF SAFETY STUDY WAS DONE.IF IT'S DONE, PLEASE PUBLISH IT.
RECENT. SOMETHING MORE RECENT.
I KNOW IT'S PETERSBURG, SO PETERSBURG PROBABLY IS GOING TO SAY THAT THEY NEED STATE ASSISTANCE.
IF WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT ACROSS THE JURISDICTIONS.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, ONE LIFE LOSS IS TOO MUCH.
LIVES LOST AT THAT INTERSECTION, INCLUDING UNBORN CHILD.
SO, IF WE CAN HAVE A SAFETY STUDY AND HAVE CROSS JURISDICTIONAL COMMITTEE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE ON A WEEKLY BASIS, I SEE RED LIGHTS VIOLATIONS BY ALL SIDES OF VEHICLES.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? ANYONE ELSE AT ALL.
SEEING NO ONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. SECOND.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[C. Consent Agenda]
DO I HAVE A MOTION? IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I SO MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT READS.SECOND. LET'S NOW CALL THE ROLL.
[D. Comments]
I'LL START ON MY LEFT TONIGHT, MR. COX. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OTHER THAN TO THANK THE ONES THAT HAVE COME OUT.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT AND THE ONES THAT ARE AT HOME WATCHING, TOO.
WE ARE ACTUALLY INTO SPRINGTIME.
SO AGAIN, THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT.
YEAH. MRS. WAYMACK? I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SENT ME GOODWILL GET WELL WISHES BECAUSE I HAD A LONG AND PAINFUL RECOVERY FROM MY SURGERY.
BUT I'M FINALLY GETTING BETTER AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THOSE WHO SENT THEIR CONDOLENCES ON THE LOSS OF MY DAUGHTER IN LAW, KAREN WAYMACK, A NICU NURSE, A NEONATAL INTENSIVE CARE NURSE OF 25 YEARS WHO SPENT ALL OF HER WORKING LIFE TAKING CARE OF PREEMIE BABIES.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY COMING OUT TONIGHT.
DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, A COUPLE THINGS WERE ADDRESSED.
I WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THOSE TWO THINGS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND MAYBE SEE WHAT THE OTHER LOCALITIES ARE DOING.
A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN THE COUNTY.
SO, LIKE I ASKED, JUST WORK WITH US AND WE'RE ALL WORKING HARD AND DILIGENTLY.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. BROWN? ECHO THE SAME THING.
THANKING EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING.
MISS GRIGGS, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I DID FOLLOW UP ON THE TWO ITEMS YOU CALLED ME ON.
THAT VEHICLE SHOULD BE MOVED WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, IF IT HASN'T BEEN ALREADY.
BUT AGAIN, THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON AND SHOOTINGS AND ROBBERIES AND STUFF.
SO, I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO JUST PLEASE BE SAFE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT AGAIN.
MR. STEELE, I HEAR YOUR COMMENT.
THERE MAY BE A WAY TO EXTEND IT SOME, BUT IT HAS TO BE A LIMIT.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOME TYPE OF FORMAT TO IT THAT EVERYBODY GETS A FAIR CHANCE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS RESOLUTION.
I SKIPPED RIGHT OVER. THAT'S OKAY.
BETSY DREWRY, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, SITTING IN FOR MR. STOKE WHILE HE IS AWAY AT A BUSINESS MEETING.
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APRIL IS NATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH, AND TOMORROW IS WEAR BLUE DAY TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT OF CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION.SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. CLEAN COMMUNITY DAY.
LET ME FIND THAT I HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING UP. CLEAN COMMUNITY DAY.
IT'S APRIL. APRIL 27TH IS CLEAN COMMUNITY DAY.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.
[E. Public Hearings]
NOW WE'RE MOVING TO A PUBLIC HEARING.YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN. BOARD MEMBERS.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PROPOSED TAX RATES FOR FY 25.
THE COUNTY DID PRESENT ITS INTRODUCED BUDGET ON MARCH 26TH, AND THE INTRODUCED BUDGET WAS DEVELOPED FROM BOARD CONSENSUS ON RECOMMENDED SPENDING PRIORITIES. THE INTRODUCED BUDGET DID NOT CONTAIN AN INCREASE IN REAL PROPERTY, PERSONAL PROPERTY, MOBILE HOME, OR MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX RATES.
THERE IS ADDITIONALLY NO EFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE FOR FY 25 FROM HIGHER ASSESSED VALUES, AS THE BOARD VOTED ON MARCH 26TH TO USE THE FY 24 CALENDAR YEAR 2023.
ASSESSED VALUES FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
THE FY 25 GENERAL FUND INTRODUCED BUDGET, AS PRESENTED ON THE 26TH, IS $74,022,972. THIS IS AN INCREASE OF 1.3 MILLION, OR 1.79%, OVER THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
THERE WAS AN ATTACHMENT IN YOUR BOARD DOCS AGENDA ITEM THAT DOES RECAP THE INITIATIVES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET. AT THE PUBLIC HEARING BOARD AUTHORIZED US TO ADVERTISE THE TAX RATE AT A WORK SESSION ON MARCH 13TH, AND THE AD OF THE TAX RATES PROPOSED DID APPEAR IN THE MARCH 28TH EDITION OF THE PROGRESS INDEX.
THE ADVERTISED TAX RATES ARE THE SAME AS THEY ARE IN THIS CURRENT YEAR, $0.82 FOR REAL PROPERTY AND MOBILE HOMES, $3.90 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY, AND $1.50 OF $100 ASSESSED VALUE FOR MACHINERY AND TOOLS.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE SAME AS OUR CURRENT YEAR TAX RATES.
SO, FOLLOWING THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARING, WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE FY 25 TAX RATES FOR REAL ESTATE, PERSONAL PROPERTY, MOBILE HOMES AND MACHINERY AND TOOLS.
AND AGAIN, THEY ARE THE SAME AS THEY ARE IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
BEFORE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, MAY I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME FORTH AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WILLIAM STEELE. COUNTY LINE ROAD AGAIN.
AND MESSAGE RECEIVED, MR. BRIAN JOHNSON. IT'S HARD TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE TAX RATE THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT SPENDING.
PLANNING HAS INCREASED THEIR SPENDING BY 32%.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE INCREASED ITS SPENDING BY 55%, HR 18%, THE GARAGE BY 113%.
OH, ANIMAL CONTROL HAS SPENT THEIRS BY 30, UPGRADED INCREASED THEIR SPENDING YEAR TO DATE BY 35%.
EVEN THE BOS BOARD, YOU INCREASE YOUR OWN SPENDING BY 14%.
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AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME HERE IS.
HEY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SET A TAX RATE.
LET'S GET AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT.
I MENTIONED TO THAT BEFORE I KNOW A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS AGREE WITH ME ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
BUT WE NEED TO CUT THE SPENDING, AND WE NEED TO LOWER THAT BY LEAVING THAT TAX RATE AT 82%.
WE ARE NOW THE THIRD HIGHEST TAX COUNTY IN THE IN THE 17-COUNTY REGION.
WE MAY BE THE SECOND HIGHEST OF HENRICO COUNTY.
DROPS THEIR TAX RATE, WHICH THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR A SECOND STRAIGHT YEAR.
AND I KNOW THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE HEARD WHEN WE DID THAT PUBLIC SESSION WHERE WE HAD THAT GUY COME IN AND EXPLAIN EVERYTHING, AND HE SAID, WELL, WHO CARES WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING? I CARE WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING, BECAUSE IF THEY CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICE, THE SAME SERVICE THAT WE'RE GETTING, MAYBE BETTER SERVICE THAN WE'RE GETTING, IF THEY CAN DO IT AT A LOWER RATE, WHY ARE WE AS HIGH AS WE ARE? WE SHOULD NOT BE THE THIRD HIGHEST TAXED COUNTY IN OUR REGION.
DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT OUR SPENDING IS STILL INCREASING.
WE'RE STILL CAUSING THE HIGHEST TAX BILL.
I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT THE TAX RATE IS.
AND MY TAX BILL KEEPS GOING UP AND UP AND UP.
IT WON'T THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY BECAUSE WE'RE USING LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
BUT I THINK WE MISSED A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE.
AND I THINK WE STILL WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT.
WE ARE STILL OVERTAXED IN THIS COUNTY.
NO REASON WHY IT WOULD BE SO HIGH.
SO, IT'S NOTHING I'M MAKING UP, I WILL.
SO, AGAIN, I THINK WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER.
I'M SORRY WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY HERE.
WE NEED TO WORK TO LOWER THE TAX RATE AND PUT THE BURDEN.
STOP PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. AND THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? YEAH.
I LIVE AT 14777 BRICKHOUSE DRIVE IN DISPUTANTA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE TAXES.
WHEN I GOT MARRIED IN 1971, I PUT A TRAILER ON THE LAND AND MY TAXES WERE PROBABLY 300 THEN BECAUSE WE TAXED TRAILERS AS PERSONAL PROPERTY.
MY TAXES WERE LIKE 243 UP TO $280 AT THE END.
THAT HOUSE JUST SOLD FOR $350,000.
SO, IT'S ON TODAY'S MARKET IS WHAT IT IS, WHAT THE HOUSES WAS.
OKAY, I PAID THAT KIND OF TAX I GOT WHEN I WENT TO THE DUMP.
IT WAS FREE. THEY PAID GEORGIA NICKEL TO RUN A LOADER AND YOUR TRASH WAS THERE FREE.
OKAY. THE EMERGENCY CREW, I MADE DONATIONS AT WORK, BUT IF I CALLED EMERGENCY CREW, IT WAS FREE.
THE LAST TWO TIMES I HAD TO CALL IT, IT COST ME OVER $500 A PIECE.
SO, MY THING IS, WHAT AM I GETTING OUT OF THIS COUNTY THAT MY TAXES HAVE WENT UP TO $2,000 RIGHT NOW? I UNDERSTAND THINGS JUST WENT UP WHEN I GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.
IT USED TO BE $35, NOW 102 HUNDRED AND 300, BUT THE COUNTY HAS GROWN.
WE GROW OKAY AS THE COUNTY GROWS.
WE SHOULD HAVE DOUBLED OUR INCOME.
RIGHT? BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW THE COUNTY IS NOT DOUBLE THAT MUCH BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE ADDED THE COUNTY WAS LIKE 2020 4000 AND WE ADDED FORT LEE, AND WE ADDED THE REFORMATORY.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE HAVE IN THERE TO MAKE IT JUMP UP SO HIGH NOW.
BUT SOMEWHERE SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO QUESTION AND STOP ALL THIS SPENDING.
JUST LIKE THAT. WE'RE BUYING A BUCKET TRUCK.
IT'S WHAT? NOW THAT'S A $80,000 USED ONE NEXT YEAR.
WE'LL NEED A $350,000 NEW ONE.
WHAT DO WE NEED? DO WE HAVE A QUESTION? THESE PEOPLE OR WHATEVER, SOMEWHERE.
WE'VE GOT TO STOP SPENDING THIS MONEY.
AND Y'ALL JUST. IF SOMEBODY COMES UP, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST HAND THEM THE MONEY.
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NOW, Y'ALL KEEP SAYING YOU QUESTION THEM, BUT I DON'T EVER SEE IT.EVERYBODY I TALK TO IS LIKE, MAN, WE JUST STEADY BUYING AND SPENDING AND I KNOW WE'RE GROWING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ARCHER. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? GOING ONCE.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD.
WELL BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON ANYTHING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.
IN MOST CASES, YOUR TAX THIS YEAR SHOULD BE THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR.
THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE AROUND THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
AS LONG AS YOUR CAR OR CARS OR WHATEVER.
HAVE THE VALUE OF THOSE HAVEN'T INCREASED OVER LAST YEAR.
THEN AS LONG AS THEY'RE THE SAME VALUE OR LESS.
I KNOW THE CAR VALUES ARE STARTING TO COME BACK.
COME BACK AROUND TO BEING WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE THEY GOT BLOWN OUT OF LINE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
YOU'VE HEARD THE STATEMENT MADE.
YOU SHOULD BE PAYING THE SAME TAXES, WHICH YOU WERE LAST YEAR OR WHICH YOU'RE CURRENTLY PAYING.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, THAT SHOULD BE TRUE.
I HAD A CONVERSATION IN THE HALL WITH MR. ARCHER BEFORE I CAME IN, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION THAT GOES ON OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING WHERE WE ALL MAY TALK TO ONE ANOTHER.
WE CAN'T DO MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE.
BUT THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK AMONG EACH OTHER ON VARIOUS TOPICS.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES I CAN TELL YOU, IN THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, WHENEVER WE'VE HAD AN AGENDA THAT HAS COME UP, I'VE MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO COME DOWN AND MEET WITH THE DIRECTOR TO FIND OUT MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING TO US.
AND I ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, SO YOU MAY NOT SEE ME ASK THAT QUESTION HERE IN THE PUBLIC, BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR, FOR MYSELF. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO TAG ON TO WHAT MR. BROWN SAID. OUR PROCESS HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
EVERY ONE OF THE COUNTY DIRECTORS DO DOUBLE DUTY.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY DOUBLE DUTY IS THEY PRESENT.
DURING THE DAYTIME, THE SAME BUDGET THAT THEY PRESENTED Y'ALL AT NIGHT.
THIS YEAR, I THINK IT WAS 41, MAYBE 42 TOTAL.
THE REASONING FOR THAT IS TO TRY TO.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, AND THEN YOU CAN REACH OUT AND ASK ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER AND OR THE DIRECTOR THEMSELVES, OR THIS LADY RIGHT HERE WHO'S GOT THE KEY TO THE KINGDOM, AND YOU CAN GET YOUR EXPLANATION THERE.
JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW. SO, THERE IS THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, AND THAT'S TO TRY TO HELP MAKE EVERYBODY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND MORE EFFICIENT SO THEY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON.
ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION OR CONVERSATION AND I JUST WILL ALSO SAY REAL QUICK THAT SETTING THE TAX RATE AT $0.82, BECAUSE WE DID THAT AND ADVERTISED IT AS AT A PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN'T GO LOWER.
AND PLEASE CORRECT ME, MR. ERARD. WE CAN'T GO LOWER THAN THAT OR NO, WE CAN'T GO HIGHER, HIGHER THAN THAT NUMBER.
SO, BUT I SO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THAT THE 82-CENT TAX RATE TO BE USED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.
MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO REPORTS.
[F. Reports]
AND I THINK THE FIRST ONE UP IS MISS SMITH, VDOT.[00:25:03]
GOOD AFTERNOON.THE COUNTY HAS SUBMITTED A REVENUE SHARING APPLICATION.
THOSE APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN FINALIZED.
THE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED FROM PRINCE GEORGE WAS TO SUPPLEMENT THE DEFICIT ON MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON.
WE EXPECT THE FUNDING SCENARIOS TO BE OUT BY MIDDLE OF THIS MONTH, SO I'LL UPDATE YOU AS SOON AS I KNOW MORE ON THAT APPLICATION. ADDITIONAL SIGNS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, ALONG WITH MESSAGE BOARDS FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND PUMPHOUSE DETOUR.
I KNOW THAT ANOTHER TRACTOR TRAILER GOT STUCK EVEN AFTER THAT.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS MUCH MORE WE CAN DO.
WE DID PUT A MESSAGE BOARD UP AT THE INTERSECTION WITH AN ARROW TO THE RIGHT TELLING TRUCKERS IT'S RIGHT BESIDE THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION SIGN AND IT HAS AN ARROW TELLING THEM TO TURN RIGHT, NOT TO TURN LEFT.
SO, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE WE CAN DO.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT DURING THE LIFESPAN OF THE PROJECT, AND IF THERE'S ANY IDEAS THAT COME OUT OF OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS OR, OR AREA HEADQUARTERS STAFF AS THEY TRAVEL, WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE.
THOSE WERE THE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE SENT TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE WITH THE MARKINGS AND THE SIGNS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PARKING SIGNS.
SO THOSE SHOULD BE INSTALLED SOON.
WE HAVE STARTED THE COURTESY REVIEW ON 460.
THAT'S FOR THE 45 MILE AN HOUR SPEED ZONE FROM COURTHOUSE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ENTIRE 45 ZONE.
AS SOON AS I GET THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT AND THE FINDINGS, I'LL SHARE THAT AS WELL.
I DID WANT TO MENTION NEXT WEEK IS NATIONAL WORK ZONE AWARENESS WEEK.
VDOT STAFF WILL BE POSTING ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND STUFF.
I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION AGAIN THIS MONTH THE SECONDARY SIX-YEAR PLAN.
I DID MISQUOTE ONE ITEM LAST MONTH.
I INDICATED THAT ALL OF THE FUNDS IN THIS NEW SIX-YEAR PLAN WOULD GO TO MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON, AND I DID NOT RECALL AT THE TIME IT DIDN'T CLICK.
AND PRIOR IN YOUR PLAN WILL GO TO THAT PROJECT.
EVERYTHING. WELL, IT WOULD BE LEAVE 2029 AND 2030.
THOSE FUNDS WILL GO TO WHAT WE CALL IT'S A COUNTYWIDE UPC, AND IT WILL SIT THERE UNTIL WE EITHER DECIDE ON A PROJECT OR WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND ANOTHER PROJECT.
SO BASICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS 420,000 WILL GO INTO THE MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON PROJECT, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE 220,000 WILL GO INTO THE COUNTYWIDE FUNDING POT.
THERE IS 10,000 ALREADY EXISTING IN THAT COUNTYWIDE.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH ME? ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE, OH GO AHEAD, SIR.
ONE COULD YOU JUST ENLIGHTEN US ON THE ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED BY MISS MEYERS? AS FAR AS THAT IS BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
IS THAT SOMETHING JOINT THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT OR IS THAT HAS TO BE INITIATED BY PETERSBURG HELP.
AND TYPICALLY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INITIATED BY THE CITY, BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
AND IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME THAT IT WAS PEOPLE RUNNING THE SIGNAL, WHICH IS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE OUTSIDE OF POSSIBLY LOOKING AT THE TIMING ON THE SIGNAL.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM RUNNING THE SIGNAL.
IF IT'S MODIFICATIONS IN THE INTERSECTION, THAT IS THE CITY, THE STATE AS FAR AS VDOT WOULD NOT TYPICALLY EXPEND DOLLARS ON THAT BECAUSE THE CITY MAINTAINS THEIR OWN STREETS.
THEY ALREADY GET STATE FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE ALONG WITH THE MAINTENANCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE CITY FUNDS, YOU HAVE THE FUNDS THAT THE STATE AGENCY GETS.
SO, THEY GET THEIR FUNDING TO HANDLE THEIR PORTION AND WE GET OURS.
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THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE WOULD NOT LOOK AT THAT.FROM A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SIGNAL ITSELF, YOU WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO AS FAR AS THE RIGHT TURN PIECE FROM COURTHOUSE ON THE 460 THAT ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT TERM, PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE YOU'RE KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE ZONE OF THAT INTERSECTION WITH THE SIGNAL.
BUT I WILL DO SOME ADDITIONAL DIGGING ON THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS LOOKING AT IT.
OKAY. AND WHERE ARE WE ON THE FINAL POSTING OF ALL OF THE NOTE THREE TRUCKS DOWN IN THE TEMPLETON AREA? I DID SEND AN EMAIL MAYBE ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO TRYING TO GET AN UPDATE.
IT'S ALL WAITING ON AS CHIEF ENGINEER SIGNATURE.
BUT IS THIS ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, RIGHT? YES, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN UPTOWN FOR MAYBE TWO MONTHS.
HE'S NOT PART TIME, RIGHT? I'M SORRY. HE'S NOT.
HE'S NOT PART TIME, IS HE? NO. OKAY.
THANK YOU. MR. COX. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE GOLF COURSE DRIVE.
WE HAD ONE YESTERDAY, I UNDERSTAND.
ACTUALLY. GOT UP INTO THE CLOSED LANE BESIDE THE ANIMAL HOSPITAL.
IT WAS A TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK UP IN THERE.
HOW HE EVEN FIGURED TO COME UP IN THERE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE SIGNS.
BUT IT TOOK US A LITTLE WHILE TO GET IT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE BACK AND FORTH WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND WHAT WE ENDED UP INSTALLING, BUT WE FELT LIKE IT WAS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO APPROACH IT.
I MEAN, YOU EVEN HAVE A SIGN ON PRINCE GEORGE'S DRIVE.
ITS POINTS WERE STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS.
YES. SO, I THINK YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORT ON IT.
YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME. I THINK THE PEOPLE BACK THERE APPRECIATE IT.
BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET A FEW MORE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, IT WOULD BE GOOD.
IF WE CAN GET IT FINISHED, THAT WOULD EVEN BE BETTER EARLY.
IT WOULD? YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? YES, MA'AM. HOW'S THE PROJECT GOING ON TAVERN ROAD? IS THAT COME TO A COMPLETION YET WITH THE WATER ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, I BELIEVE, LAST MONTH, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT.
NOT SURE WHAT? YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THERE.
IT WAS A DRAINAGE DITCH ISSUE.
I THINK THAT WAS ON GOLF COURSE AS WELL, RIGHT? NO, MA'AM.
AND THEN THERE WAS A COUPLE OF CITIZENS TALKING ABOUT GOLF COURSE DRAINAGE.
BE GOOD AND THEY WERE DOING DRAINAGE WORK AND DIDN'T COMPLETE IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAD BEEN COMPLETED.
I HADN'T RIDDEN BY THERE THIS WEEK.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL DO A LITTLE BIT OF DIGGING AND LET YOU KNOW.
WHAT I FOUND OUT WAS THE ONE THAT SPOKE ON IT.
YOU GOOD? YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
MISS SMITH, IS VDOT GEARING UP, OR DO THEY HAVE ANY PLANS FOR ALL THIS INCREASED TRAFFIC SINCE THIS BRIDGE WAS TAKEN OUT IN MARYLAND? BECAUSE YOU GOT TWO CRUISE SHIPS, AND YOU GOT ALL THE CONTAINER SHIPS COMING TO NORFOLK.
WHAT I CAN SHARE IS THAT AS FAR AS INSPECTIONS GO, WE'RE DOING THEM MORE ROUTINELY.
PRIOR TO ALL OF THIS OCCURRING.
WE'RE DOING IT AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE MAKING SURE THERE'S NO LANE ENCROACHMENTS.
OUR NORMAL THINGS THAT WE WOULD DO ON A MONTHLY BASIS WE'RE DOING MORE FREQUENT.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OTHER TALKS ABOUT SIGNAL ADJUSTMENTS.
THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO SIGNALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.
IT SHOULD BE IN THE 4300 BLOCK OF TAVERN.
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.THANK YOU, MA'AM. HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE THE NEW MS PHARMACY REGULATIONS.
I THINK CHIEF TAYLOR IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS.
GOOD EVENING, MR. DREWRY. MR. ERARD, I'LL COME TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT SOME CHANGES THAT ARE COMING DOWN FROM STATE REGARDING OUR MS PHARMACY REGULATIONS.
DUE TO NEW FDA REGULATIONS, THE NO COST DRUG BOX EXCHANGES WILL BE ENDING ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024, AND THIS CHANGE WILL REQUIRE A DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE MEDICATIONS FOR EMS CALLS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 40 DIFFERENT MEDICATIONS.
AND IN OUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT A $10,000 INCREASE IN MEDICATION PURCHASING.
THE FDA AND VIRGINIA PHARMACY BOARD REGULATIONS, THE DEPARTMENT MUST OBTAIN A CSR OR CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE REGISTRATION WITH THE VIRGINIA PHARMACY BOARD, AND A PERMIT FROM THE DEA TO OBTAIN THESE PERMITS WILL REQUIRE SOME UPGRADES TO FIRE AND EMS STATIONS, INCLUDING GENERATOR POWER SUPPLY ROOMS, AND WE DO HAVE STATION EIGHT IS CURRENTLY BEING CONVERTED WITH THAT ELECTRICAL UPGRADE.
SO, WE'LL HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE THESE INSPECTIONS TAKE PLACE.
MONITORED ALARM SYSTEMS FOR EACH SUPPLY ROOM CAMERA SYSTEMS TO MONITOR ACCESS.
THESE ARE NOT REQUIRED BUT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED JUST FOR THE SECURITY REASONS.
AND CLIMATE-CONTROLLED SUPPLY ROOMS AND ADDITIONAL PROXY CARD SYSTEM, WHICH IS A KEY FOB TO MAKE ENTRY INTO THE SUPPLY ROOMS. OOH. MEDICATION STORAGE AND TRACKING.
TO COMPLY WITH NEW REGULATIONS, THE DEPARTMENT MUST TRACK ALL SCHEDULE TWO THROUGH FIVE MEDICATIONS.
THIS PROGRAM, THE OPERATIVE IQ PROGRAM, MEETS THE REQUIREMENT TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THESE MEDICATIONS.
THE ADDITIONAL COST THERE IS ABOUT 3500 PER YEAR FROM WHAT WE CURRENTLY PAY THAT COMPANY.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBILITY OF ADOPTING A VENDING MACHINE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WHICH ALLOWS FOR MEDICATIONS AND OUR CURRENT MS EQUIPMENT TO BE STORED, DISTRIBUTED AND TRACKED, INTEGRATING WITH OPERATIVE IQ, WHICH ALSO COMPLIES WITH THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS FROM THE REGULATIONS.
IT'S $60,000 PER MACHINE WITH ABOUT $1,200 PER YEAR PER MACHINE MAINTENANCE AND WARRANTY AGREEMENT.
THE MACHINES WOULD BE LOCATED AT ALL FIRE AND EMS STATIONS THAT HOUSE A MEDIC UNIT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY STATIONS FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT, AND MEDICATIONS WILL ONLY BE STORED AT STATION EIGHT THIS YEAR, AND THEN IT WILL EVENTUALLY MOVE TO STATIONS FIVE AND SEVEN DEPENDING ON REGULATION REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH STATION.
HOSPITALS, EQUIPMENT AND MEDICINES FOR ONE FOR ONE EXCHANGE.
SO, AREA HOSPITALS WILL END THIS PROGRAM ON NOVEMBER 1ST AS PART OF THESE REGULATION CHANGES.
IF WE CAN WORK OUT A ONE FOR ONE EXCHANGE WITH HOSPITALS, EVEN ALL OUR NON-TRANSPORTS, WHICH WOULD BE CARDIAC ARREST, PATIENT REFUSALS AND OVERDOSES, ETC., ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T GET TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL, THE DEPARTMENT WOULD STILL HAVE TO.
ALL OF THE ABOVE IS AN INCREASE IN MEDICATION AND EQUIPMENT COST TO THE DEPARTMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A MEDICINE WASTE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO.
IT'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT SINCE WE WILL BE STORING CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES.
MEDICINE. WE ARE REQUIRED TO CONTRACT WITH A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR TO PROVIDE MEDICINE WASTE SERVICE.
THE COMPANY WILL BE REQUIRED TO TRACK ALL MEDICINES AND DISPOSAL.
AND RIGHT NOW, WE DO NOT HAVE A COST FOR THAT AT THIS TIME.
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
THE WORK GROUP CONTINUES TO PROGRESS TOWARDS BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS.
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AND TO THE GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF CARE OUR RESIDENTS EXPERIENCED TODAY.THESE REGULATIONS, THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS THERE.
I JUST GOT AN UPDATE THIS MORNING.
AND WE'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS REQUIRED FROM US.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN.
ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR, I DO.
SO, YOU SAID THESE ARE CHANGES BEING MANDATED BY THE STATE.
IT'S A. YEAH. FEDERAL REGULATIONS THE VIRGINIA PHARMACY BOARD ENFORCES.
OKAY. IT JUST FEELS LIKE AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
I MEAN, IN ALL HONESTY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE WE'RE BEING MADE TO DO.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND WITH DRUGS AND STUFF THAT YOU DEAL WITH NOW BECOMES THE RISK OF.
PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO GET A QUICK HIGH.
SO, IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXPERIENCE.
THIS IS MORE OR LESS THE HOSPITALS, NOT THE STATE.
CORRECT. THE HOSPITALS ARE THE ONES SAYING WE'RE DOING AWAY WITH THE ONE FOR ONE EXCHANGES, WHICH IS REQUIRING US TO FOLLOW THE STATE REGULATIONS THAT ARE COMING DOWN, SORT OF. SO.
AGAIN, THESE ARE NONE OF THIS STUFF IS FINALIZED.
HOWEVER, IN ORDER FOR US TO MAINTAIN A ONE FOR ONE EXCHANGE MEDICARE REQUIRES THAT YOU CAN'T HOSPITAL CAN'T COMPETE FOR YOUR BUSINESS. SO THEREFORE, AS LONG AS ALL THE AREA HOSPITALS ARE PARTICIPATING, THERE'S NO COMPETITION FOR PRINCE GEORGE AND MAYBE TAKE ALL OF ITS PATIENTS TO A CERTAIN HOSPITAL. WE HAVE UNOFFICIALLY BEEN TOLD THROUGH THE CHIEFS COMMITTEE THAT I ATTEND THAT THERE IS AN AREA HOSPITAL THAT IS PULLING OUT OF THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T REALLY TRACK ONCE THEY ONCE THAT MEDICATION LEAVES THEIR HOSPITAL, THEY'RE TECHNICALLY STILL REQUIRED TO TRACK THAT.
AND THAT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE IF IT GOES ON AN AMBULANCE AND THEN WE TAKE IT TO A DIFFERENT HOSPITAL.
YES, MA'AM. DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT YOU WILL GET SOME SPECIFIC TRAINING ON HOW TO DO THIS? NO, NO, NO WE ARE WORKING PRETTY CLOSELY WITH THE REGION, REGIONAL DEPARTMENTS.
WE'RE IN CONSTANT WEEKLY COMMUNICATIONS ON WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING.
WHICH IS I THINK THE BEST TRAINING WE'RE GOING TO GET.
I MEAN, ONCE THE FINAL REGULATIONS COME OUT, WE'LL WORK.
WE'LL WORK WITH MR. ERARD AND MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THEM TO THE T.
BUT THERE'S NO SET DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD NECESSARILY TRAIN US FOR THAT.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE HAVE STORM WATER PROGRAM MR. HOEGER. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. DREWRY. MR. ERARD.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME ONGOING CONVERSATIONS REGARDING OUR STORM WATER PROGRAM, AND NOT ONLY FROM A STANDPOINT OF REGULATION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS OUR STORMWATER FEE AND WHETHER OR NOT TO WHAT SCOPE OF WORK DO WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT OUR OWN LOCAL STORMWATER PROGRAM? WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT TODAY.
I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THAT JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
BUT REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO TODAY.
AND THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS A THAT THAT PROGRAM IN PLACE.
AND WE DO ALSO HAVE A STAFF THAT GOES OUT AND DOES INSPECTIONS DURING CONSTRUCTION SO THAT THAT LAW WAS PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS NOT CAUSING EROSION DOWNSTREAM OR CAUSING SEDIMENT TO GET INTO OUR LOCAL STREAMS AND WATERWAYS.
SO THAT THAT PROGRAM ALREADY EXISTS AT THE COUNTY.
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VIRGINIA STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.AT THAT TIME, PRINCE GEORGE'S DID OPT OUT.
PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY DID NOT HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND THEREFORE DEQ, THE STATE STILL OPERATES OUR SNP.
FAST FORWARD TO 2016 VIRGINIA EROSION AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ACT WAS PASSED.
THERE IS A LOT OF REDUNDANCIES BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO NOW WE ARE FACED WITH THAT CHOICE.
DO WE WANT TO, TO ADOPT AND ADMINISTER OUR OWN LOCAL PROGRAM WITH NO ASSISTANCE FROM DEQ? OR WE COULD ADOPT AND ADMINISTER A PROGRAM WITH SOME ASSISTANCE FROM DEQ, WHICH IS LIMITED TO PLAN REVIEWS.
ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME IN SITE PLANS WILL BE SUBMITTED.
THEY WILL PROVIDE THE REVIEW AND ANY COMMENTS THAT WOULD BE PASSED BACK ON TO THE DEVELOPER.
THAT IS THE LIMIT OF THAT ASSISTANCE.
THE FINAL OPTION THAT WE HAVE IS TO ADOPT A TIME LIMIT.
I KNOW THE FINAL OPTION IS THAT WE ALLOW DEQ TO COMMIT TO CONTINUE TO ADMINISTER THE SMP PROGRAM.
THERE'S NO NEED TO DO ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
AND IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE THIS NEXT SLIDE.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT OF REVISIONS TO THIS.
AND I WILL GO THROUGH THAT AS WE GO THROUGH.
BUT IN LIGHT OF ALL THE ALL THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT WE HAVE NOT ACTED ON YET TO INCLUDE THE STORMWATER FEE AND THE SCOPE OF OUR STORMWATER PROGRAM, OUR CURRENT STORMWATER PROGRAM, I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE.
SO, ON THE LEFT WE HAVE THE OPTION OF DEQ CONTINUING TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM.
AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE COUNTY ADOPTING OUR OWN PROGRAM.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M JUST GOING TO ADDRESS THE DEQ SIDE FIRST.
IF WE ALLOW THAT TO OCCUR, THE COUNTY WILL HAVE THREE OPTIONS REGARDING OUR STORMWATER FEE.
SO, WE WILL BE ABLE TO EITHER KEEP OUR EXISTING PROGRAM AS IT STANDS NOW, OR WE CAN BECOME A PUBLIC WORKS, OR WE CAN ELIMINATE THE PROGRAM ALTOGETHER.
BUT IF WE ARE TO KEEP THE EXISTING PROGRAM, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO EITHER KEEP THE EXISTING RATE STRUCTURE OR ADOPT A NEW RATE STRUCTURE BASED ON IMPERVIOUS AREA.
AS YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW, I PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED THE BOARD.
WELL, THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THAT PRESENTATION WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT SHOWS HOW WE WOULD CHARGE THAT RATE STRUCTURE BASED ON IMPERVIOUS AREA. SO, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS STILL AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
AND WE CAN ALWAYS CONTINUE TO DO THAT BASED ON THIS, THIS OPTION.
IF WE DO BECOME A PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE THAT ABILITY.
TO ADDRESS THAT RATE STRUCTURE.
IF WE DO ELIMINATE THE PROGRAM, AND THIS IS WHERE THE SLIGHT CHANGE IN YOUR WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET SAID IN THE PACKET, WE COULD ELIMINATE THAT PROGRAM AFTER THE PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED.
WE NEED TO PAY OFF THE BONDS THAT ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THAT MAY TAKE SOME TIME INTO 26 TO 27 TO PAY OFF THAT BOND DEBT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE SHOW THIS FEASIBILITY IS VERY HIGH.
THE PROGRAM ALREADY EXISTS AS IT IS.
THERE'S NOTHING NEEDED TO OCCUR.
OF COURSE, THE STORM WATER FEE WILL BE REQUIRED.
WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE IT AS THE ONE DIFFERENCE FROM THE DEQ ADMINISTRATED PROGRAM.
SO AGAIN, THIS NOTHING ELSE REALLY CHANGES HERE OTHER THAN THAT REQUIREMENT TO KEEP THE FEE.
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EXCUSE ME, WE'D HAVE TO REVISE OUR ORDINANCE, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND GET THOSE ORDINANCES AMENDED.SO, WE DO STILL HAVE THAT OPTION ON THE TABLE.
BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AUTHORIZING STAFF TO INFORM DEQ TO ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE ADMINISTERING OUR PROGRAM ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.
SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED VESMP.
NOW THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THE I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM DEQ AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT NOTIFICATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT AMOUNT OWED ON THE BOND? I DID NOT COME PREPARED WITH THAT NUMBER.
I HAVE THAT. I PULLED IT UP WHILE HE WAS PRESENTING.
OH, ONE MORE PAYMENT AFTER THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO, OUR FINAL PAYMENT FOR THE BORROWING THAT WE DID IN THE FALL OF 2019 IS OWED IN FY 25.
SO, WHAT IS THE BOND PAYMENT? IT IS $442,000.
WHICH IS ROUGHLY 95% OF THAT BUDGET.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT.
OH. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD, MR. CHAIRMAN. SORRY.
A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THAT I KNOW COULD.
I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH. I HAD HEARTBURN WITH THIS YEARS AGO.
VDOT USED TO MAINTAIN ALL THE OUTFALL DITCHES.
THEY WALK NOW I SEE NOW PROBABLY SEE JUST SAY 25 PLUS YEARS AGO THEY WALKED AWAY FROM IT.
THEY TOOK IT OUT OF THE BUDGET.
THERE'S NO STATE FUNDING FOR IT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO GO FIX ALL THE OUTFALL DITCHES THAT WERE OVERGROWN.
AND WE'RE BACKING WATER UP ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, DRAIN FIELDS, YOU NAME IT.
VDOT IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS TO GET THE WATER OFF THE ROAD.
THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
ME PERSONALLY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON THIS SINCE I'M TALKING NOW.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE US TRY TO GET.
THERE MAY BE A DAY DOWN THE ROAD AND 30.
WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A UTILITY DEPARTMENT TO BE THAT EXTENT.
WE GOT EXCAVATORS AND DUMP TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
I DON'T SEE US NEEDING IT NOW.
RIGHT NOW, WE USE THE BOND MONEY UP.
WHEN THE MONEY'S UP, IT'S DONE.
THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE BEEN WORKING IT.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE STICK WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW, UNLESS WE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT.
I DON'T SEE THE NEED RIGHT NOW FOR US TO HAVE OUR OWN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO GET THERE SOMEDAY.
I'LL WAIT UNTIL THEY MANDATE IT.
BUT. I THINK WE STILL NEED TO STAY WITH THE DEQ ROUTE.
I JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY STORM WATER FEES.
IF I LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE WATER IS NOT BACKING UP ON ME, I DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE.
THERE'RE MANY OTHER PEOPLE THE SAME AS I AM.
I DON'T FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY.
I REALLY THINK THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO LOOK AT DESIGNATING OR NAMING AREAS THAT ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THOSE ZONES WHERE THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THOSE ZONES ARE THE ONES THAT'S SHOULDERING THE BURDEN OF THE COST OF THE REPAIRS IN THAT AREA.
TO ELIMINATE THE FEES THAT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE WORK TO BE DONE.
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RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD JUST MEAN THAT THE COUNTY THEN.THAT'S CORRECT SIR. IF WE'RE NOT COLLECTING A STORM WATER FEE.
AND IT'S FREE PER SE, WHERE SOMEBODY IS PAYING FOR IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
IT'S JUST WE'RE NOT COLLECTING ANY FUNDS, BUT IF WE HAVE TO COLLECT FUNDS, I THINK IT PERSONALLY SHOULD BE IN THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD HAS BEEN NOWHERE CLOSE IN THE AREA IN DISTRICT ONE WHERE I LIVE AT.
BUT FOR WHAT YOU NEED TONIGHT, I WOULD SAY THE DEQ ROUTE IS WHERE I WOULD BE LEANING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MY TAKE ON IT IS IT'S REALLY NOT A QUESTION.
I THINK WE NEED TO PHASE IT OUT.
YOU KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PET PEEVES I HEARD WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR THE BOARD.
PEOPLE PAYING A TAX THAT THEY DON'T SEE ANYTHING THEY GET FROM, YOU KNOW, AND AS FAR AS THE WORK BEING DONE, IF WE'RE NOT TAKING IN THE MONEY, THE WORK WOULDN'T BE DONE, CORRECT? STEWART.
YEAH. SO, THE SPECIAL PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WOMEN, DID YOU JUST SAY THAT IF WE DON'T TAKE IN THE MONEY, THE PROJECTS DON'T GET DONE CORRECT? BECAUSE SO I DON'T THINK MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WITH THE FUNDS WE'RE TAKING IN IS GOING BACK AND DOING CREEK REHABILITATION AND OUTFALL, LARGE OUTFALL DITCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
CORRECT. WE HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE BEING FUNDED.
YES. AND SOME OF THEM ARE BIG PROJECTS.
IF THE STORMWATER FEE DOES GO AWAY, FUTURE PROJECTS COULD NOT BE DONE.
SO, WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE AT SOME POINT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THOSE PROJECTS IF YOU WANT TO CANCEL THAT FEE SOONER THAN LATER, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER BORROWING VERY SOON TO, TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THOSE PROJECTS.
I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD CAUTION THE BOARD ON SHUTTING IT DOWN.
THAT'S MY, I JUST, PERSONAL OPINION.
ANDRE, PLEASE HEAR ME OUT, OKAY.
FOR THE ONES THAT HAVE GOT YOUR EAR, I GOT THAT, OKAY, JUST LIKE WHAT MR. BROWN SAID. BUT YOU'RE NOT HEARING FROM THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
YOU'RE GOING TO HURT A LOT OF CITIZENS IN THE PROCESS WITHOUT KNOWING THE SCOPE.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT GOING FORWARD, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE JUST CAN'T.
IT'D BE FOOLISH TO JUST SHUT IT DOWN IN MY OPINION.
UNLESS YOU KNOW THE FULL SCOPE AND THE IMPACTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HIT PEOPLE WITH.
MISS ERARD WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
I JUST MR. HALTOM. IF YOU COULD KIND OF JUST GIVE A 50,000-FOOT OVERVIEW OF THE TREND IN TERMS OF STORM WATER REGULATION AND THE COST COMPARISON OR THE COST CHOICES THAT THE COUNTY HAS.
WELL, THE OVERALL TREND IS MUCH LIKE WHAT VDOT HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS AS WELL.
THEY'VE THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS USED TO BE ALL COMPLETELY RUN BY THE STATE.
AND THE STATE HAS SLOWLY BEEN PASSING ON RESPONSIBILITIES DOWN TO THE LOCALITIES.
THERE WERE SOME BENEFITS TO THE COUNTIES AT THAT TIME TO TO LET THAT HAPPEN.
UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE WERE MANDATES THAT WEREN'T FUNDED EITHER THAT THE COUNTIES HAD TO TAKE OVER.
SO THOSE ARE PROGRAMS THAT A LOT OF THEM HAD TO PUT IN PLACE.
AS FAR AS THE COST OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, AGAIN, TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS, YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
YOU GET THE TAX RATE, AND YOU HAVE A STORMWATER FEE, AND THE STORMWATER FEES IS THROUGH LEGISLATION.
AND IT CAN BE USED FOR NOTHING ELSE.
SO, THAT'S WHY THE FEE WAS ESTABLISHED.
IT DOES GO INTO ESSENTIALLY IT BECOMES JUST LIKE A PUBLIC UTILITY WHERE IT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
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IT GETS COLLECTED FOR A CERTAIN PURPOSE AND CAN ONLY BE EXPENDED FOR A CERTAIN PURPOSE.SO, THOSE ARE ONLY TWO FUNDING OPTIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT WE CAN CURRENTLY USE.
AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE NOW, A PROPOSED A DIFFERENT RATE STRUCTURE THAT MIGHT REFLECT DIFFERENTLY ON BUSINESSES VERSUS RESIDENTIAL AND AG SIDE.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE STILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
REGARDLESS OF HOW WE VOTE HERE, WE STILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I SIT ON MR. WEBB AND I BOTH SIT ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OR BOARD FOR VARGO VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, AND THIS IS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION ACROSS ALL THE LOCALITIES.
AND EVERY YEAR [INAUDIBLE] GOES TO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS TRYING TO CHAMPION THE STATE TO DO MORE.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO REALLY START PUTTING PRESSURE IS THIS WAS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE AND WE REALLY NEED TO SAY TO THE STATE, HEY, YOU GUYS, DUMP THIS THING ON EVERYBODY AND YOU NEED TO THE STATE NEEDS TO BE GIVING A FAIR SHARE INTO FIXING, HELPING TO THESE LOCALITIES TO BORROW THE MONEY AND PAY THIS MONEY OFF, I CAUTION, AS MR. WEBB SAID, I CAUTION JUST ELIMINATING THE PROGRAM WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HURT SOME.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HURT THOSE THAT ARE HAVING AN ISSUE.
AND I'VE BEEN THERE IN THESE SEVEN YEARS.
I'VE BEEN TO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY WHERE WATER IS RUNNING UP ALMOST TO THEIR BACK DOOR, AND THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PICTURES, IF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE REACH OUT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, THERE'S PICTURES THAT WE HAVE OF WHAT PROJECTS LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE ONCE WE FINISHED IT.
AND SO, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT'S HURTING BOTH WAYS.
I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTY SHOULD BE.
RESIDENTS SHOULD BE PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THE AREA THAT I LIVE IN.
ANYBODY ELSE. I JUST HAVE CONCERN WITH THE FEES.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO START LEARNING TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS.
WE NEED TO PICK THIS UP IN THE COUNTY BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FEES FOR THE LANDFILL.
WE'VE GOT FEES FOR STORMWATER.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GIVE THE CITIZENS A BREAK? ON. PUTTING ADDITIONAL FEES ON THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO IN THE COUNTY.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT RATE STRUCTURE.
I ALREADY KNOW, BUT THAT'S MY $0.02.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'M A YES ON TONIGHT.
AND I WASN'T SURE IF WE NEED A FORMAL ACTION ON THIS OR JUST A CONSENSUS.
I DID PREPARE A RESOLUTION FOR THAT JUST IN CASE.
THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET. BUT IF ALL WE NEED IS A CONSENSUS, RESOLUTION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I'M IN ORDER, I SO MOVE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH STAYING WITH THE DEQ SUPPORTED PROGRAM RELATED TO STORM WATER.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND. MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, NOW WE'RE MOVING TO ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[G. Order of Business]
THE FIRST ONE IS A RESOLUTION FOR A RESOLUTION FOR APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDATION.FY 2025 HEALTH, DENTAL AND VISION INSURANCE LEAVE.
MISS [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO REPORT ON THIS.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MISS DREWRY AND MISS ERARD.
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TONIGHT, I'M COMING BEFORE YOU WITH THE PROPOSED FY 25 HEALTH VISION AND DENTAL RENEWALS.SO, THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND THAT'S TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ADEQUATELY FUNDING THE PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
THE TOTAL COST OF THAT WOULD BE $440,000, 117,000 OF IT WOULD BE PASSED OVER TO THE ACTIVE EMPLOYEES AND 322,705 ABSORBED BY THE COUNTY.
OF THAT IS 285,496 FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
OUR RETIREES WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE FULL 15%, WHICH WE HAVE PROBABLY 8 TO 10 RETIREES STILL ON THE PLAN, WITH A COUPLE OF THEM COMING OFF IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
WITH THE DENTAL INSURANCE, WE'RE LOOKING AT BOTH ACTIVE AND RETIREES INCREASE OF ABOUT 1.3% FROM THE CURRENT YEAR TO THE NEW YEAR. AND THEN WITH OUR VOLUNTARY VISION PRODUCT, THERE WOULD BE NO INCREASE THAT WOULD REMAIN FLAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
ADDITIONALLY, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNTY CONTINUE TO FUND THE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT AT OUR CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE FOR THAT, WHICH IS $1,000 FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY, 1250 FOR EMPLOYEE AND CHILD OR EMPLOYEE AND SPOUSE, AND 1500 IF THEY'RE COVERING EMPLOYEE CHILDREN OR FAMILY.
THAT WAY, IF SOMEBODY DEPARTS, WE HAVEN'T FULLY FUNDED FROM THE EMPLOYER PERSPECTIVE WE DO ALSO RECOMMEND CONTINUING WITH OUR THREE CURRENT WELLNESS INITIATIVES THAT WE OFFER, WHICH IS THE WAIST AND WEIGHT INCENTIVE OFFERED DURING THE ANNUAL WELLNESS FAIR, THE HEALTH MAP PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOR PREDIABETES AND DIABETES.
BOTH OF THOSE WERE PUT IN PLACE IN FY 20.
AND THEN WE HAVE A HYPERTENSION PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE FY 23 BUDGET.
YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING WOULD ALLOW MY DEPARTMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPEN ENROLLMENT COMMUNICATIONS THIS WEEK WHICH WOULD BEGIN OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT PROCESS STARTING NEXT WEEK. I ALSO WOULD HAVE TO SEND OUT AT LEAST 35 TO 40 NOTICES FOR THOSE RETIREES WHO ARE EITHER ON HEALTH, DENTAL, VISION, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE AND GIVE THEM TIME TO COMMUNICATE BACK IF THEY WANT TO HAVE ANY CHANGES MADE TO THE PRODUCTS.
SO WE WOULD OPEN UP THAT PLATFORM TO START NEXT WEEK.
OPEN ENROLLMENT WOULD CLOSE MAY 3RD, AND THAT AFFECTS THE EMPLOYEES PAYCHECKS STARTING IN JUNE.
SO WE'RE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE CHANGES.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.
SO, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THIS COVERED IN THE BUDGET.
I'M GOOD. YEAH. IT'S UNDER BUDGET.
THE RATES THE RATE STRUCTURE IS THE OPTION THAT THE BOARD APPROVED BY CONSENSUS OPTION ONE.
LIKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR SURPLUS PROPERTY.
IT'S FIRING MS VENTILATION FAN TO BE DONATED TO PETERSBURG FIRE RESCUE.
WHICH ONE, MISS DREWRY, OR IS IT GOING TO BE MR. CHRIS TAYLOR? I CAN START IT.
AND THEN IF THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT, MR. CHIEF TAYLOR MIGHT CHIME IN.
I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN IN STORAGE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING DONATION TO PETERSBURG.
WHO HAS MADE A REQUEST TO RECEIVE THAT FAN.
CHIEF TAYLOR AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
WAS THIS OFFERED TO THE VOLUNTEERS PRIOR TO GOING INTO SURPLUS? MR. COX.
THIS PARTICULAR FAN HAS BEEN IN STORAGE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
WE'VE REPLACED ACROSS THE BOARD WITH BATTERY POWERED FANS, AND THAT'S THE TYPICAL USE THIS FAN.
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I'M NOT 100% SURE WHERE IT ORIGINALLY CAME FROM, BUT IT'S A VERY LARGE FAN AND CAN ONLY BE USED ON CERTAIN VEHICLES JUST DUE TO SPACE RESTRAINTS, BUT I HAVE NOT SPECIFICALLY ASKED EACH VOLUNTEER STATION.I KNOW THAT EACH UNIT IS PROPERLY EQUIPPED WITH THE PROPER PPV FAN.
MY NEXT QUESTION THAT LEADS ME TO IS.
WHY ARE WE CHANGING EQUIPMENT OUT BEFORE IT REACHES ITS END OF LIFE? AND PURCHASING NEW STUFF.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE PUSH TO GO ELECTRIC ON EVERYTHING.
WHY ARE WE PARKING IT AND PURCHASING NEW STUFF INSTEAD OF USING THIS UNTIL IT DIES AND THEN REPLACING IT? AND THAT WAS DONE PRIOR TO MY TAKING OVER.
ALL I CAN TELL YOU IT IS A VERY LARGE FAN.
AGAIN, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE HAVE RECEIVED IN THE PAST SOME DONATIONS FROM BACK THEN.
FORT LEE. THIS MAY HAVE COME FROM THAT.
I UNDERSTAND I'M NOT CALLING YOU OUT ON IT.
THAT WAS QUESTIONED BECAUSE THAT'S SOME QUESTIONS I'VE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SPENDING TAX DOLLARS WHEN THERE REALLY IS NOT A NEED TO BE SPENDING BECAUSE IT STILL HAS SERVICEABLE LIFE IN IT.
AND I UNDERSTAND SO BUT JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WANTED.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. ANYBODY ELSE.
ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD DONATE THIS SURPLUS EQUIPMENT OR THIS SURPLUS FAN TO PETERSBURG FIRE AND RESCUE. I WAS SECOND.
LAST SECOND. IT'S NOT CALLED A ROLL, PLEASE.
NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR PUMP STATION NINE AND TEN REHABILITATION, MR. HOLCOMB. AND AGAIN.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE DO OWN TWO PUMP STATIONS ALONG ROUTE 460 THAT WERE BUILT BACK IN THE 1980S.
THAT'S HOW OLD THESE PUMPS ARE.
BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE CAN FIND ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WORKING THIS LATE, THIS LONG.
BUT IT IS BECOMING COSTLY TO REPAIR THESE STATIONS.
THAT HAS BEEN THOSE HAVE NOW BEEN RECEIVED AND SITTING ON SITE, READY TO BE INSTALLED.
WE ARE NOW LOOKING FOR A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE INSTALLATION WORK.
AND SO, ON MARCH 6TH, WE DID AN INVITATION FOR BID.
AND THAT BID SUMMARY IS ATTACHED.
WE HAVE EVALUATED THAT BID AND CHECK THE REFERENCES.
AND WE DO RECOMMEND THE AWARD TO WACO FOR THAT AMOUNT.
406 WAS SPENT ON THE PACKAGE PUMP STATIONS THEMSELVES.
LEAVING A BALANCE OF 194,000 ARPA FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THIS AWARD.
THE REMAINING $19,210 IS AVAILABLE IN THE UTILITY'S CAPITAL BUDGET.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE ANTICIPATE MAKING UP THOSE REMAINING FUNDS.
ADDITIONAL COST THAT WE EXPECT TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS $12,000 TO PRINCE GEORGE ELECTRIC TO DO THEIR ELECTRICAL UPGRADES SO THAT WE CAN GET RELOCATE THE ELECTRICAL SERVICES. WE ARE EXPANDING THE SITE A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THIS NEW PACKAGE STATION.
AND THEN WE'LL HIRE ELECTRICIAN TO DO THAT INSTALL.
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HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.SECOND. IT'S LIKE A SECOND, A SECOND.
DOES SHE KNOW WHAT SHE WAS? WAS IT YOU OR HER? WE BOTH MADE THE MOTION. BOTH OF THEM MADE THE MOTION.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE AWARD OF CONTRACT TO COMPLETE EPA MANDATED LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY.
MR. HOLCOMB AGAIN? YES, SIR. AND THIS IS AN EPA MANDATED TASK THAT REQUIRES ALL PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS TO DEVELOP A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY BY OCTOBER OF 2024.
AND WITHIN 30 DAYS OF COMPLETING THIS, WE GOT TO SUBMIT THAT UP TO EXCUSE ME.
WITHIN 30 DAYS OF COMPLETING THE INVENTORY WATER CUSTOMERS WHO ARE ALREADY SERVED BY SERVICE LINES OR GALVANIZED SERVICE LINES OR EVER WERE SERVED BY GALVANIZED OR LEAD SERVICE LINES DOWNSTREAM WITH UNKNOWN MATERIALS MUST BE NOTIFIED.
WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE THE CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE NOTIFICATION.
THIS MANDATE IS JUST THE STEP ONE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE FUTURE MANDATES TO NOT ONLY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY EVERY SINGLE SERVICE LINE, JUST A PERCENTAGE THAT THAT WILL HELP US DETERMINE THAT.
WE THINK ALL OF THE REST OF THEM ARE EITHER COPPER OR GALVANIZED OR LEAD.
SO, WE KNOW THAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD.
SO, THIS $250,000 IS GOING TO TAKE US AS FAR AS WE CAN.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE 250,000 IN GRANT FUNDS FROM VDH AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. SO, THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY FUNDED BY VH.
ONCE WE GET THE REIMBURSEMENTS, WE ALSO HAVE $100,000 IN THE UTILITY BUDGET FOR THIS TASK AS WELL.
SHOULD THAT BE NEEDED? IF WE DO SEE A BENEFIT TO MOVE FORWARD EVEN BEYOND THAT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING NEEDED.
BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH TO PROVIDE A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE DATABASE THAT IDENTIFIES THE MATERIAL OF ALL WATER SERVICE LINES IN THE COUNTY AND HELP US MEET THOSE FUTURE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FUTURE UNKNOWNS THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
AND LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE GOING TO BE FUTURE MANDATES THAT WILL REQUIRE US NOT ONLY TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THEM, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY, WE ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO REPLACE THEM AS WELL. THOSE ARE YEARS TO COME.
HOPEFULLY IT WON'T WIND UP BEING LIKE FLINT, MICHIGAN YEARS AGO.
HOPEFULLY NOT. THEY WENT THROUGH A HELL OF A LOT.
SO TODAY WE'RE JUST ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO COMPLETE THE LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY AND AWARDED THAT CONTRACT TO BOWMAN CONSULTING FOR $250,000.
MOTION BY MR. COX, SECONDED BY MR. PUGH. WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THESE TWO UP.
IT'S NOT CALLED A ROLL, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE IS AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR A FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS.
SO, BOTH SENATOR WARNER AND SENATOR KAINE HAVE PROVIDED OPPORTUNITIES TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS FOR THE CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE INTENDED TO SECURE A ONETIME FUNDING FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH, AND THE DEADLINE WAS APRIL 5TH.
SO THOSE APPLICATIONS ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
SO, THIS ISN'T RETRO TRYING TO GET THOSE APPROVALS, BUT THE REQUESTS WERE FOR FUNDING FOR WERE SUBJECT THROUGH THE INTERIOR, WERE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE INTERIOR ENVIRONMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES, SPECIFICALLY THE EPA STAG GRANTS.
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AND OUR PRIORITY PROJECTS WERE THE BEECHWOOD MANOR ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE REPLACEMENT PROJECT, AND THAT IS FOR PLANNED DESIGN FIRST ONLY.AND THEN THE SECOND PRIORITY WAS RIVER ROAD WATER STORAGE TANK AND BOOSTER STATION PROJECT.
AND THEN THE FINAL PRIORITY THERE WAS THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT DESIGN FOR $4 MILLION.
THIS IS A PROCESS THROUGH WHICH THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS BILL AND WHERE CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES CAN APPLY FOR FEDERAL FUNDING TO HELP LOCALITIES IN THEIR DISTRICT MEET CRITICAL NEEDS.
AND THAT DEADLINE WAS MARCH 26TH.
SO, AND AGAIN, THE SAME THREE PROJECTS WERE IN THE SAME PRIORITY WERE SUBMITTED TO HER AS WELL.
AND I GUESS AT THIS POINT, STAFF IS JUST SEEKING AND RETRO AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR THE FOR FUNDING THROUGH THOSE AGENCIES TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS FOR, FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS. ANY AWARD OF GRANT FUNDS WILL REQUIRE A 20% MATCH.
AND THE UTILITY CASH RESERVES COULD BE UTILIZED TO FUND THOSE MATCH REQUIREMENTS.
SHOULD ALL THE PROJECTS BE SELECTED.
ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
. NEXT, WE HAVE RESOLUTION BUDGET AMENDMENT TO APPROPRIATE OF SCHOOL TAX FUNDS.
BALANCE 598,374 MRS. DREWRY. YES, SIR.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO SCHOOL ITEMS I DO SEE DR.
PENNY AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, PATRICK BARNES, WHO IS THE CHIEF SUPPORT SERVICES OFFICER, AND MRS. MONIQUE BARNES, WHO IS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THESE TWO ITEMS THAT I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER.
THE FIRST ITEM IS A REQUEST TO APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE FROM THE SCHOOL TEXTBOOK FUND, AND THE AMOUNT OF $598,374. I BELIEVE THE SCHOOL DIVISION ARE RESERVED FUNDS.
LAST YEAR THEY DID NOT HAVE A LARGE TEXTBOOK ADOPTION IN ORDER TO REQUEST AN APPROPRIATION THIS YEAR TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A LARGE TEXTBOOK ADOPTION. SO, THEY ARE REQUESTING APPROPRIATION OF THEIR TEXTBOOK FUND BALANCE FOR USE THIS YEAR.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND I'M SURE THE SCHOOL FOLKS ARE, TOO.
OUR NEXT IS RESOLUTION, BUDGET AMENDMENT AND APPROPRIATION OF SCHOOL NUTRITION FUNDS.
FUND BALANCE $300,000 MRS. DREWRY. YES, SIR.
THE SCHOOL DIVISION IS RESTRICTED IN THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CARRY IN THEIR SCHOOL NUTRITION FUND BALANCE, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING AN APPROPRIATION OF 300,000.
THE AUDITED FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF FY 23 WAS OVER 1.49 MILLION.
AND THEY ARE REQUESTING AN APPROPRIATION OF 300,000 TO BRING THEM WITHIN THEIR ALLOWABLE LIMIT.
AND I BELIEVE THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO PURCHASE 300,000 AND ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE CAFETERIAS.
THAT IS NOT IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IS THAT ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT OR REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT? I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE SCHOOL DIVISION STAFF TO ANSWER THOSE PARTICULARS.
BUT ONE OF Y'ALL APPROACH WHOEVER WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS.
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GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN WEBB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.GOOD EVENING. ATTORNEY ERARD, I'M PATRICK BARNES, CHIEF SUPPORT SERVICES OFFICER.
AND THE FOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT FALLS UNDER MY SUPERVISION.
THIS WOULD BE REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT BEING ABLE TO REPLACE IT AS IT DIES.
THE NEWER SCHOOLS HAVE NEWER EQUIPMENT, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY FORAY INTO THAT.
BUT SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS ARE MUCH OLDER AND HAVE MUCH OLDER EQUIPMENT.
AND IT'S JUST VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT THAT ADDS UP VERY QUICKLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
BECAUSE I WAS READING THROUGH ALL THIS MATERIAL.
BUT I DID NOTICE THERE ARE TWO SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO EQUIPMENT.
THEY'RE RELATED TO EITHER GIVING PEOPLE RAISES OR SOME TYPE OF WAGES RELATED TO WAGES.
YEAH. AND I FOUND THAT TO BE ODD FOR WHERE IT WAS PLACED AND A REQUEST THAT DEALT WITH REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT FITTING IN THAT CATEGORY.
THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND IT.
WE DO HAVE ONGOING EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT NEEDS AND THINGS THAT GO WITH IT.
BUT THE BUDGET, THE WAGES, THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT.
THERE IS NO INCOME FOR THAT THROUGH FOOD SERVICES.
THERE'S WE CAN'T RAISE PRICES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.
WE CAN'T ADD A DOLLAR TO THE VALUE MEAL.
WE'RE PRETTY MUCH SET IN STONE AS FAR AS REVENUE GOES.
SO, IT HAS TO COME FROM ANOTHER FUND.
NO, NO. GO AHEAD. YOU STARTED, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT AGAIN, IN THE REQUEST THAT'S MADE TO US, THE REQUEST SPECIFICALLY SAYS EQUIPMENT.
GOOD EVENING, MS. DREWRY AND BOARD.
IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT LIST, THAT WAS A 700, AND, I DON'T KNOW, 40, $80,000 LIST.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS SENT TO THE TO THE STATE TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS, TO BRING DOWN THE FUND BALANCE OF OVER $1.4 MILLION AS OF FEBRUARY, THE END OF FEBRUARY, WE DID NOT HAVE 1.4 MILLION.
LOOKING AT THE FUND BALANCE, WE'RE EXPECTING 1.2 AT THAT POINT.
SO, WE WERE LOOKING AT 300,000 THAT WE NEEDED TO SPEND.
SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
AND AS OUR BUDGET PERMITS US THROUGH, THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR, WE'LL DO THOSE REPLACEMENTS.
BUT THE. BUT THE WAGES ARE ON THAT LIST.
YES, SIR. THEY ARE, THEY ARE HOWEVER THAT WAS CREATED.
OH. I MEAN, PROBABLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO FULFILL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
RIGHT. AND I'M NOT REALLY TRYING TO BE CONTRARY OVER IT.
THAT IS THAT IS OUR INTENTION.
YEAH. WE HAVE TO SEE HOW OUR REVENUE GOES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR AS WELL.
AND YOU ALL DON'T BUDGET ON A FUND BALANCE EITHER.
SO THAT IS OUR INTENTION IS TO PURCHASE EQUIPMENT.
SO, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THINGS OPERATE ON THE SCHOOL DIVISION SIDE, BUT EVEN THOUGH THOSE ARE WAGES RELATED TO FOOD SERVICE, THOSE STILL WOULDN'T FALL IN A CATEGORY OF JUST WAGES THAT ARE FOR SCHOOL EMPLOYEES, NUTRITION AND BUS DRIVERS.
AND YES, SIR, ALL OF THAT ABOVE BUS DRIVERS.
BUT FOR OUR FOOD SERVICE EMPLOYEES THAT ACTUALLY WORK IN THE CAFETERIAS AND ALSO FOR PURCHASING FOOD, HOWEVER, WHAT WE'LL DO IS IF WE'VE GOT THAT 300,000 WHICH WE ARE EXPECTING, BUT IF OUR REVENUE DOESN'T HOLD BY THE END OF THE YEAR, MAY HAVE TO APPLY IT TO THOSE OTHER AREAS.
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BUT CURRENTLY, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT FUND BALANCE AND WE DO SEE THAT, THAT WE'RE SUSTAINABLE, THAT'S WHERE WE PLAN ON, ON, ON DOING WITH IT IS PURCHASING EQUIPMENT.YOU'RE GOOD, I GOT SOME, YEAH.
GO AHEAD, SIR, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, BUT GO AHEAD.
I WON'T BE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT.
I'M THE ONE THAT ASKED FOR THAT BREAKDOWN.
YES, SIR. AND THE EQUIPMENT? I. SOME WOULD GET THE MACHINERY, AND SOME WOULD GET A NEW STUFF.
[INAUDIBLE] FOR ME WAS THAT LINE ITEM 1819.
BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THAT TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I ACTUALLY EVEN WHEN I SENT IT OVER TO YOU, I DIDN'T NOTICE BECAUSE I HADN'T SEEN IT.
PRIOR TO THEN, I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT IT WAS IN SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
HOWEVER, IT IS OUR PLAN AND WHAT WE PRESENTED TO OUR BOARD TO USE IT ON EQUIPMENT.
YES, SIR. BUT AS I THINK WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THAT, THEY THOUGHT IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE REVENUE TO SUPPORT THAT THIS YEAR, IF OUR SALES IF FOR SOME REASON WE'RE NOT HAVING SCHOOL, WE STILL HAVE TO PAY OUR EMPLOYEES, I GET THAT, I GET THAT, I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE PART.
WHEN WE ASK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY ON, AND THEN WE PUT THAT AS A LINE ITEM.
SO ONCE THAT ITEM IS DONE, THE MONEY IS RELEASED BY MISS DREWRY, AND YOU GOT IT.
IT'S JUST PUT IN THE GENERAL FUND AS A LINE ITEM.
YES, SIR. THIS THREW ME FOR A CURVE AND I'M STILL NOT SURE I'M CLEAR ON IT.
BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M NOT USED TO THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT I WORK IN.
WELL, THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THAT HAS BEEN OUR REQUEST IS TYPICALLY IN EQUIPMENT OR FOOD.
I STILL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WAGES AND THE BONUSES.
AND WAS IT NOT ALREADY CAPTURED IN Y'ALL'S BENEFIT AND WAGE LINE ITEM WITH Y'ALL'S BUDGET? CURRENT BUDGET? YES, SIR.
BUT WE ALSO ARE NOT PLANNING ON SPENDING A $1.4 MILLION FUND BALANCE.
THE FUND BALANCE IS THAT'S ONE REASON WHY IT'S REDUCED, WHY IT'S AT 1.2 AND NOT 1.4.
CAN THIS MONEY BE SPENT ON ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE LISTED ON THIS THING FOR EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY? NOT AS FAR AS I MEAN.
DO YOU MEAN THE LETTER THAT WE SENT TO THE OR ARE YOU TALKING WHAT YOU WHAT YOU INTEND? WE INTEND SAID WHAT YOU INTEND TO REPLACE AS IT GOES BAD, OR THINGS THAT ARE FAULTY AND NOT OPERATING EFFICIENTLY THAT YOU NEED TO REPLACE.
CORRECT. THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.
BUT THIS MONEY WILL NOT BE USED FOR WAGES AND BONUSES.
NOT UNLESS WE DO NOT HAVE THE REVENUE TO SUPPORT THIS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
OKAY. I'M SORRY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CONVINCE ME OF THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
I MAY NOT BE THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE WORLD, BUT THAT DOESN'T.
BUT RIGHT NOW, IT IS OUR INTENT TO BUY EQUIPMENT.
ALL RIGHT. LET ME TRY ONE MORE TIME AND I SWEAR I'M GOING TO GIVE IT UP AFTER THIS.
OKAY. SO, IF YOUR SALES ARE UP OR DOWN, YOUR WAGES FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING AND IT'S NOTHING, NOTHING AGAINST THE PEOPLE IN THE CAFETERIA, THEY DO A HELL OF A SERVICE WITH THE KIDS, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
THOSE WAGES AND BENEFITS WILL STILL BE PAID.
YES, SIR. WHETHER YOUR SALES ARE UP OR DOWN.
YES, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE PAID OUT OF FUND BALANCE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE ON THAT ONE.
I JUST AGAIN, I HAVE CONCERNS.
MR. BARNES GETS UP AND TELLS ME WE'RE GOING TO.
IT'S REPLACING EQUIPMENT, BUT NOW THAT'S ONLY THE ANTENNA OF IT.
IT MAY BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
YOU'RE REQUESTING A TRANSFER OF 300,000.
A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION FOR EQUIPMENT.
THAT IS IT EQUIPMENT OR IS IT FOR OTHER THINGS? POTENTIALLY. THAT IS OUR PLAN IS FOR EQUIPMENT.
I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T APPROPRIATE THIS, IT WILL END UP SPENDING FUND BALANCE.
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AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PURCHASE.I MEAN, WE MAY END UP SPENDING FUND BALANCE AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ANY EQUIPMENT.
BUT IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE SALES, THEN WE SPEND FUND BALANCE ANYWAY.
I THINK THE CLARITY FOR US IS THAT WE WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE, THAT IF WE SAY WE'RE APPROPRIATING 300,000 AND THERE'S A LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO USE THOSE MONIES FOR, IF YOU SAY, WELL.
WE JUST WE CAN'T HOLD ANYTHING OVER YOUR HEAD AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO.
CORRECT. SO, AND THANK HEAVENS THERE ARE NO TAX DOLLARS IN THIS.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S STILL APPROPRIATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, NO MATTER WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.
SO THAT'S JUST THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THE EXCEPTION.
YOU SAID IF THE SALES ARE DOWN, THEN YOU GO BACK AND USE YOUR FUND BALANCE.
WE'LL HAVE TO OR IT WILL BE APPLIED.
THE BUDGET MAY NOT BE OVERSPENT, BUT IT WILL END UP.
THE REVENUE WILL END UP BEING FUND BALANCE, I UNDERSTAND.
SO, THE FUND BALANCE COMES FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT AVENUES.
YES, SIR. ONE OF IT COMES FROM US, WHICH IS CITIZEN TAX DOLLARS.
THERE ARE NO COUNTY TAX DOLLARS WITHIN THE SCHOOL NUTRITION FUND.
OKAY. THIS IS FOOD SERVICES INCOME THAT WAS EARNED PRE-COVID.
PRINCE GEORGE SCHOOLS HAD A VERY PROFITABLE FOOD SERVICE PROGRAM.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER THESE DAYS WITH THE COST OF THINGS.
YES, SIR. YES, SIR, AS LONG AS IT LASTS.
AND IT IS IT IS NOT GENERAL FUND BALANCE OR OVERTURE.
THERE IT IS, 100% FOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT MONEY THAT THE USDA SAYS CAN ONLY BE USED IN FOOD SERVICES, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO JUSTIFY TO THEM WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT. I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BEAT UP ON YOU.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO EMBARRASS YOU IN PUBLIC.
THANK YOU. I KNOW I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
SO, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LIST, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE STATE WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD USE THE MONEY FOR, THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS THAT YOU SEE ON THERE, OR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE STATE FOLLOWING THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET.
SO THAT'S WHY THOSE WEREN'T INCLUDED ORIGINALLY.
SO, IF WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH FUNDS IN THE FOOD SERVICES ACCOUNT, THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO USE THE FUND BALANCE TO COVER THOSE INCREASES, WHICH WAS 2% FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR FOR EVERYBODY WHO DIDN'T GET THE 12% OVER TWO YEARS.
THAT CAME LATER AS PART OF THE ANSWER TO THE SKINNY BUDGET.
SO, THE ITEMS ON THAT LIST ARE ALL OF THE THINGS THE STATE HAS SAID.
YES, YOU CAN SPEND YOUR FUND BALANCE ON THIS.
THEY ONLY ALLOW US TO CARRY SO MUCH MONEY IN THE FUND BALANCE.
AND SO THEY TELL US THAT IT MUST BE SPENT.
SO WE SEND IN THE LIST THAT SAYS, THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BUY.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THOSE THAT CHANGE THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTED, FOR THOSE SALARY AND BENEFITS, WE WOULD COVER THAT AND THEN WE WOULD BUY THE EQUIPMENT. SO THAT'S HOW FAR DOWN THE LIST WE WOULD GO.
AND AS MRS. BARNES SAID, THE LIST IS OVER $700,000 AND WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE $300,000 APPROPRIATED OF THE MONEY, SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING ON THE LIST.
SO, WE'LL GET THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FIRST AND GO AS FAR AS WE CAN.
I APOLOGIZE THAT WE WEREN'T A LITTLE CLEARER.
I DO SEE WHERE YOUR QUESTION CAME FROM, SO THANK YOU.
WELL, YOU'VE DEALT ME FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENCY MEANS A BIG THING.
I'D LIKE TO READ ONE THING AND KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
SO, I SEE WHERE YOUR CONFUSION WAS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TALKING WITH US ABOUT IT.
WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE TO ANSWER.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE TALKING EQUIPMENT AND SALARIES.
SO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT? LESS THAN 27,000, I THINK.
YES, SIR. SO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE.
CAFETERIA IS KIND OF LIKE OUR WATER DEPARTMENT.
IT'S AN ENTERPRISE. AND THEY BILL FOR THEIR LUNCHES LIKE WE BILL FOR OUR WATER.
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AND THEIR DEPARTMENT IS SELF-SUFFICIENT, CORRECT? THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRANSFER MONEY TO IT.OKAY. OTHER MONIES ANYWAY, RIGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GUYS? LADIES? YES, SIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING GOING FORWARD.
CLARIFY STUFF. OKAY, SO WE UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY WHAT HUNG UP ME WAS MR. BARNES SAYS HIS EQUIPMENT.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE SAY IT COULD BE OTHER THINGS.
SO JUST BE CLEAR WITH US, TRANSPARENT WITH US.
BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROPRIATE.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE ONE LAST CONSIDERATION TO CANCEL THE APRIL 18TH WORK SESSION.
YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN YOU DO HAVE A BUDGET WORK SESSION ON YOUR CALENDAR FOR APRIL 18TH.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY RECONVENES.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I WILL HAVE STATE UPDATES WITHIN A DAY.
TYPICALLY, IT IS THE BEGINNING OF MAY BEFORE WE GET FINAL STATE NUMBERS.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, OTHER THAN ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL MIGHT LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OR GET CLARIFICATION ON, ON APRIL 18TH WHETHER WE WILL HAVE SUFFICIENT TOPICS TO HAVE A BUDGET WORK SESSION.
THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE HAVE.
WE DO HAVE ONE SCHEDULED FOR MAY 7TH.
AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE ANY UPDATES AT YOUR SECOND REGULAR MEETING IN APRIL.
SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE BUDGET WORK SESSION ON THE 18TH.
UNLESS THERE ARE TOPICS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ON THE 18TH.
I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'M GOING TO ASK IF DR.
PENNYCUFF IS STILL HERE. TYPICALLY, WHEN DO YOU LOOK FOR COMMITMENT FROM US ON THE BUDGET ENOUGH FOR YOU TO HANDLE YOUR CONTRACTS WITH YOUR TEACHERS.
TYPICALLY, YOU NEED THAT BY WHEN WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT BY MAY 10TH.
OKAY. SO, AT THE LATEST, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE APRIL MEETING, WE'RE STILL GOOD.
BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CONTRACTS TO COMMIT TO OUR TEACHERS AS SOON AS WE CAN. YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU. AND YOU DO HAVE YOUR BUDGET, PUBLIC HEARING OR ON THE 10TH OF MAY.
AND WE TRADITIONALLY, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.
ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO CANCELING.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE A TIME TO GET TOGETHER.
LAST YEAR, IT WAS ALMOST THE END OF JULY BEFORE WE GOT ANYTHING FROM THEM.
BUT I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CANCEL THE WORK SESSION FOR APRIL 18TH.
DO I HAVE SECOND? SECOND. MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL.
ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO APRIL THE 23RD.
MR. PUGH. YES, MRS. WAYMACK? YES, MR. WEBB? YES, MR. BROWN. YES, YES, MR. COX. YES, FOLKS, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.