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[A. Call to Order (6:00 pm)]
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MARCH 12TH BOARD MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE.MISS KNOTT, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
HERE, MR. COX. HERE, MR. PUGH. HERE, MRS..
WAYMACK. MRS. WAYMACK, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M CALLING IN FROM MY HOME ON LAUREL SPRING ROAD.
YES, MR. PUGH? YES, MRS. WAYMACK. WE'RE NOT.
ALL RIGHT. WHY ARE Y'ALL GETTING HER CONNECTED?
[B. Business Meeting]
MR. BROWN, WOULD YOU DO THE INVOCATION, PLEASE? YES, SIR. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING JUST TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS BOARD TO MEET ONE MORE TIME TO WORK ON THE MATTERS AT HAND BEFORE THIS COUNTY.HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO WATCH OVER ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, OUR FIRE, OUR EMS, OUR POLICE, AND ALL OF THOSE THAT WORK HERE IN COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO WATCH OVER ALL THOSE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING MAY HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE.
YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
CAN YOU COME UP, PLEASE? GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
THREE MINUTES. WHEN THE YELLOW LIGHT COMES ON, PLEASE TRY TO WRAP IT UP IN 30 SECOND.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK? MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
ALL RIGHT. WHO HAVE YOU GUYS SIGNED UP? WHO'S THE FIRST ONE? JUSTIN NOBLIN, MR. NOBLIN.
MY NAME IS JUSTIN NOBLIN, 8724 CENTENNIAL ROAD DISPUTANTA.
WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE ASSESSMENTS AND THE ASSESSOR AGAIN.
LAST WEEK AT HIS OWN MEETING, MR. GORDINEER ADMITTED TO REMOVING ALL CONSIDERATIONS ON LAND ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
MANY OF THESE WERE COMPLETELY UNFAIR AND INCORRECT.
THE RESPONSE FROM HIS OFFICE WAS IF IT WASN'T CORRECT, COME IN AND APPEAL IT.
THE REALITY OF THIS SITUATION IS THAT MANY RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW HOW TO APPEAL.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
THEY'RE INTIMIDATED OF THE PROCESS, THEY'RE OUT OF TOWN, OR THEY'RE TOO SICK OR PHYSICALLY UNABLE.
FOR WHATEVER THE REASON, IT WAS A BURDEN PUT ON THE CITIZENS THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE.
THE BURDEN OF INCREASED VALUE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TAXES IS SOLELY ON THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
THEIR OFFICE COSTS THE COUNTY RESIDENTS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR.
THIS ISN'T THE ONLY THING THE ASSESSOR AND HIS OFFICE HAVE DONE WRONG.
THIS WOULD NORMALLY HELP THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY BY LOWERING THEIR TAXES.
INSTEAD, THEIR OFFICE CHOSE TO MANUALLY INCREASE THE BUILDING VALUE OF THESE PROPERTIES, WHICH BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, WAS NOT EVALUATED YET, JUST THE LAND TO THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THE LAND WENT DOWN.
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THIS PREVENTED ANY TAX SAVINGS TO EVERY ONE OF THE 1525 VICTIMS, AND IN 23 CASES DUE TO LAND USE.AND BECAUSE OF THIS, I PERSONALLY FEEL MR. GORDINEER SHOULD BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL ASSESSORS AND THIS ONE IS NOT A GOOD FIT EITHER.
YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR.
IT'S NOT. WHO'S NEXT? JOSHUA INGRAM.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
JOSHUA INGRAM, 7205 THWEATT DRIVE.
AND MY FARM IS ON 4325 TAVERN ROAD.
I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TAX ASSESSMENT TO YOUR GOOD NEWS, BUT WHAT I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS ON THWEATT DRIVE, THE PROPOSED BAKER'S POND SOLAR FARM PROJECT IS NOT DEAD.
SO PLEASE CONTACT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WHOEVER YOU CAN TO WORK OUT SOME KIND OF ZONING OR WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO TRY TO HALT ANY FURTHER SOLAR PROJECTS IN THIS COUNTY.
THE STATE TRIED TO PASS LEGISLATION, WHICH WAS PUT ON THE TABLE UNTIL 25, TO BASICALLY TAKE ALL CONTROL FROM YOU GUYS AND PUT IT IN THE STATE'S HANDS. WE DON'T WANT THAT.
SECONDLY, ON THWEATT DRIVE, I GUESS IT WAS SOMETIME LAST YEAR WHEN THE GOLF COURSE ROAD WAS CLOSED DOWN DUE TO THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND THE DETOUR WAS PUT THROUGH THWEATT DRIVE.
WELL, SUBSEQUENTLY, THE STATE DECIDED TO PULL UP HALF A THWEATT DRIVE AND REPAVE IT, AT THAT TIME.
IT RAINED, VEHICLES TRAVELED ON IT.
WELL, IT'S TAR AND CHIP IT ANYWAYS.
YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO DODGE THE POTHOLES.
NOW THE ENTIRE ROADS ARE POTHOLES.
BARRELS HAVE BEEN UP FOR NUMEROUS MONTHS, ROAD CLOSURES, ETC.
ETC. OUR TWO FRONT HAY FIELDS.
WE'VE LOST 50% OF DUE TO WATER STANDING IN THEM BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO.
PLEASE CONTACT VDOR AS I WILL TO TRY TO GET DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS MADE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. INGRAM. IT'S NOT.
WHO'S NEXT? THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC COMMENT.
GOOD EVENING, DON VITO, 4620 PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE, PRINCE GEORGE.
I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT THEY'RE AFTER.
IT HAPPENED TO MY DAUGHTER, BUT I'M HERE FOR ANOTHER REASON.
I TRIED TO HANDLE THIS PRIVATELY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT PUBLICLY NOW.
IT'S BEEN SHARED ON FACEBOOK, ETC.
IT USED TO BE YOU HAD TO LOOK UP DON'S ADDRESS AND GET HIS INFORMATION.
EVERY CITY AND OR COUNTY THAT TOUCHES OUR BORDER STILL REQUIRES YOU TO LOOK IT UP.
SO WHY AM I HERE TONIGHT? BECAUSE I WARNED THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN.
IF YOU HAVE TIME, EVERYBODY START GOOGLING RICHLAND ACQUISITIONS OUT OF DALLAS, TEXAS.
SOME GUY DOWN THERE? NO. SOMEBODY ELSE GOT A LETTER.
OH, THERE YOU ARE. GOT A LETTER THIS WEEK.
WANT TO BUY A HALF ACRE CEMETERY FROM ME? NOW, I DOUBT THAT ARMAND [INAUDIBLE], WHO IS ALSO BEEN ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, WAS SITTING IN DALLAS AND GOING, DON VITIPA, I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK THAT UP AND SEE IF I CAN'T BUY THE CEMETERY FROM HIM.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO GET SCAMMED BECAUSE WE CHOSE TO, OR Y'ALL CHOSE OR THE ASSESSOR CHOSE TO PUT A DOCUMENT OUT THERE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE WITH EVERYBODY'S RECORDS.
I BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE, AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
THE ENTIRE WORLD NOW HAS ALL 14,000 OF OUR LAND USE.
VERY SIMPLE TO LOOK SCROLL THROUGH, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PUT MY ADDRESS IN.
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IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN DOWN.THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY TO COME.
ANYWAY TO SCAM, SCAM US, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.
IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE, BUT TAKE IT DOWN.
DO YOU THINK HE REALLY LOOKED TO SEE IF IT WAS A CEMETERY? AND IT'LL BE A COLD DAY IN HELL.
I DIG MY DAD UP AND MOVE HIM AWAY FROM THAT CEMETERY.
THANK YOU. MR. VITIPA. MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I SHARE INFORMATION? OKAY. THANK YOU ALL.
I YIELD THE FLOOR TO MS. ERARD. JUST FOR THE CITIZENS WHO ARE HERE AND ANYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING AT HOME.
AND THE PERSON WHO MADE THE REQUEST SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR IT TO BE IN AN EXCEL FORMAT.
WE DID NOT HAVE IT IN EXCEL, BUT THE ASSESSOR WAS ABLE THROUGH THE VISION SOFTWARE TO EXPORT IT IN EXCEL, AND IT WAS THEN PROVIDED TO THAT CITIZEN WHO PUBLICIZED IT.
AND THEN WE ALSO POSTED IT ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
SINCE THE CITIZENS WERE SAYING THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO RESEARCH AND COMPARE WHETHER THEIR ASSESSMENT WAS FAIR OR NOT.
THAT'S KIND OF THE PROGRESSION OF EVENTS.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? STEPHEN HOWARD 2765, DEER RUN PLACE, PRINCE GEORGE.
AS WITH YOU, MR. WEBB, AND MANY OF THESE HERE.
YES, SIR. THE $200,000 SOFTWARE THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR THE ASSESSMENT.
MAYBE IT'S A BAD ALGORITHM OR INCOMPETENCE OR WILLFUL MISCONDUCT.
THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE THREE OR COMBINATION TO CAUSE THE EXACT DEVALUATION OF MY LAND, BUT THE INCREASED VALUATION OF MY BUILDING.
AND THAT HAPPENED TO, I BELIEVE, 12,000.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, 1200 OF THE 14,000 PARCELS IN THE COUNTY.
SO IT'S VERY ALARMING TO ME THAT EITHER I THINK YOU HAD TO DO IT MANUALLY TO DO THAT, SOMEBODY HAD TO LOOK AT LET'S DROP HIS HOUSE OR DROP HIS LAND $28,900 AND INCREASE HIS HOUSE BY THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT.
SO WE CAN KIND OF CUT HIM A BREAK AND HIS TAXES STAY THE SAME.
BUT YET IF HE GOES FOR LAND USE, HE'S LOSING $28,900 OF VALUATION ON HIS LAND.
SO BAD ALGORITHM INCOMPETENCE, WILLFUL MISCONDUCT.
BUT ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE WILL ECHO THE SAME THING.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE EXIT OFF 95.
THE NUMEROUS VEHICLES THAT RUN THE TWO STOP SIGNS EVERY DAY HAPPEN TO ME TWICE TODAY ON THE WAY HOME, AND THEN ON THE WAY HERE WITHIN AN HOUR.
TWO PEOPLE RAN THOSE STOP SIGNS.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAD THAT TERRIBLE BUS CRASH SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
I SEE, I SEE AN OFFICER IN HERE.
LET'S GET THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE.
LET'S GET THEM ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE AND LET THEM SIT THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE ACTION IS.
I GO BY THERE AT LEAST TWICE A DAY, AND SOMEBODY ALWAYS RUNS THAT STOP SIGNS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SERIOUS TRAGEDY TO PROBABLY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND IRONICALLY, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE STOP SIGN ARE FROM NEW JERSEY, SOUTH CAROLINA, FLORIDA.
LOWER THE STOP SIGNS SO THEY'RE MORE VISIBLE.
LET'S DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUR PEOPLE, BECAUSE THAT IS A GRAVE DANGER.
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I MEAN, I'M A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.I ADVOCATE FOR THEM EVERYWHERE I GO.
THOSE GUYS ARE THE GREATEST, SEVERELY UNDERPAID, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO, BUT LET'S GET THEM IN THE RIGHT SPOT TO DO THE MOST, MOST BENEFIT FOR OUR PEOPLE BEFORE SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENS.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? SAYING NO ONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.
NEXT THING ON OUR PLATE IS A CONSENT AGENDA.
[C. Consent Agenda]
DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND.MS. KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
NEXT WE'LL GO TO SUPERVISORS COMMENT AND I WILL START ON MY LEFT TONIGHT.
[D. Comments]
COX. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.IT IS A PLEASURE TO SEE THIS MANY PEOPLE AT THE MEETING, NOT UNDER THE MOST IDEAL SITUATION, BUT I DO ENJOY SEEING PEOPLE AND I HOPE THIS CONTINUES.
AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, LAST WEEK WE DECIDED TO ROLL BACK THE ASSESSMENTS FOR THIS YEAR.
BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ONE PERSON AND THAT'S MISTER PUGH.
MISTER PUGH HAS BEEN DOGGING THIS EVER SINCE IT STARTED IN JANUARY.
HE'S PULLED COUNTLESS NUMBERS OF PAPERWORK TOGETHER, REAMS OF PAPER TOGETHER MEETINGS.
HE'S PULLED ME INTO MEETINGS WITH HIM.
I'VE GOT TO MEET A LOT MORE CONSTITUENTS ASSOCIATING WITH MISTER PUGH.
SO I KIND OF WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS KUDOS.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. MR. PUGH, THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY COMING OUT TONIGHT.
MR. COX, THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION.
I'M DILIGENTLY WORKING WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.
I THINK THE I THINK THE CONCERN HAS BEEN HEARD, AND I BELIEVE MR. STOKES IS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY LOOKING INTO IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM TIME TO DO HIS JOB AND WORK.
AND FURTHERMORE, AS FAR AS THE VDOT GOES I'M SURE WE'LL REACH OUT AND GET THOSE CONCERNS ADDRESSED.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE THAT HAVE COME OUT TONIGHT.
AND A LOT OF I HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL PUT ON FACEBOOK, BUT WHEN DID THEY PASS THAT? THEY MUST HAVE DONE IT UNDER THE TABLE.
NO, EVERYTHING WE PASS IS HERE IN PUBLIC.
YOU JUST GOT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH IT.
MR. VITIPO, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU, SIR, I DON'T.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
I GET THOSE TO PEOPLE CALLING IN, WANTING TO I THINK I GOT A LETTER IN THE MAIL FROM SOMEBODY.
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I TOLD MY WIFE, JUST THROW IT IN THE TRASH CAN TRYING TO BUY MY HOUSE WITHIN THE LAST WEEK.SO BUT PLEASE STAY STAY CONNECTED, STAY INTERESTED IN GOVERNMENT.
AND AS MR. PUGH SAID, WE'RE GOING TO LET THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
HE'LL BE KEEPING THE BOARD INFORMED ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT ALL OTHER THREE HAVE SAID I DO APOLOGIZE.
AND ALL I CAN SAY IS APOLOGIZE.
ULTIMATELY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE.
ALL FIVE OF US. ALL FOUR OF US HERE, BUT ALL FIVE OF US.
WE TRADITIONALLY DO NOT TAKE A VOTE AT A WORK SESSION.
THEY CAN BE PRESENT IF CHOOSE TO.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS URGENT ENOUGH THAT WE DID TAKE A VOTE, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, MR. ERARD'S GOT TO DRAW UP AN ORDINANCE WHICH IS LISTED IN YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE BACK OF THAT WHITE PIECE OF PAPER WHERE IT SAYS THE ORDINANCE AND THAT'S SO IT CAN SHE CAN DRAFT IT UP AND IT CAN BE APPROVED ON THE 26TH, WHICH IS A REGULAR BOARD MEETING, AND THAT WILL REVERT EVERYTHING BACK TO THE 2024 ASSESSMENTS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WHAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL I CAN DO IS SAY I APOLOGIZE IF I'M WRONG, I'M WRONG.
JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE UP HERE IS TONIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. CAN I ADD ONE OTHER THING? YEAH. GO AHEAD. I JUST ASKED MR. WEBB IF I COULD ADD ONE OTHER THING.
SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE THE LACK OF RESPONSE THAT WE DON'T CARE.
AND THEN IF THERE'S STAFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO LOOK INTO SOMETHING OR WHATEVER, BUT BUT PLEASE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BYLAWS THAT ARE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, THE BOARD IS NOT ALLOWED OR THE BOARD DOES NOT.
IT'S NOT A QUESTION AND ANSWER TYPE.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
I RETURN CALLS, SO PLEASE REACH OUT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING.
ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE MRS WAYMACK IS ON.
ALL RIGHT. YOU GOT THAT RECORDED, MISS KNOTT? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
DOES SHE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DOES MISS. COMMENT.
YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY PRUDENT.
DID SHE HAVE ANY COMMENT? MR. IF SHE COULD HEAR THE LAST TWO.
MRS WAYMACK. DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, I HAVE NO COMMENTS TONIGHT.
WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL MOVE TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS.
AND JUST TO ADD ON WHAT MR. BROWN SAID AND USING SOME EXAMPLES FROM TONIGHT, MR. HOWARD, THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE TAKEN NOTES.
WE'LL BE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT EXIT 45 TOMORROW ON THE RAMS SIDE.
AND MR. INGRAM, VDOT IS ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT AND I ACTUALLY SHE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU TO YOUR RIGHT, CRYSTAL SMITH.
AND SO THE WHOLE TIME YOU WERE TALKING, SHE WAS TAKING NOTES AND I WAS LOOKING AT HER SAYING, DID YOU GET THAT? DID YOU GET THAT? SO WE ARE ACTIVELY LISTENING.
AND THE OTHER THING IS WE ARE HAVING THE FY 25 BUDGET WORK SESSION TOMORROW NIGHT HERE AT 6 P.M..
ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO MR. GORDINEER. SEE YOU PRESENT.
I'M HERE FOR THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
THE FIRST IS CHANGING THE DATES TO MAY 1ST FOR APPLICATIONS FROM OCTOBER 1ST.
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AND THAT IS A CHANGE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE IN 2018, WHEN THE COUNTY WENT FROM CALENDAR YEAR TO FISCAL YEAR.THE SECOND PART OF THE CHANGE IS SIMPLIFYING THE APPLICATION FEE TO A FLAT $10.
PREVIOUSLY, THE APPLICATION FEE FOR PARCELS OVER 100 ACRES WAS $10 PLUS $0.10 AN ACRE OVER THE 100.
THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS? AND THEN THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL CHANGE, MR. GORDINEER ABOUT PUTTING IT IN OUR CODE, THE STATE LAW ABOUT REMOVING PARCELS FROM LAND USE IF THEY'RE DELINQUENT.
DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT WITH YOU, MR. GORDINEER? NO, IT'S IN THE PACKET.
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I'VE GOT IT.
IT JUST MIRRORS THE STATE CODE SECTION AND SAYS THAT IF ON OCTOBER 1ST THE TAXES FOR THE PRIOR YEAR HAVE NOT BEEN PAID, THEN IF THEY'RE STILL NOT PAID BY DECEMBER 1ST, THAT THE TAXES ARE THEN REMOVED.
I MEAN THAT THE PARCELS ARE THEN REMOVED FROM LAND USE.
AND WHAT'S THE REST OF THAT? HOW THAT ROLLS OUT AS FAR AS WHEN IT COULD BE PAID.
YOU'RE NOT TAKING OUT LAND USE.
THERE'S ANOTHER ADDITION ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT I READ.
YES. IF THEY'RE PAID BY JUNE 30TH, THEN THEY'RE NOT TAKEN OUT.
Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS? MR. GORDINEER, JUST ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
I KNOW YOU'VE ANSWERED, BUT I JUST WANT TO AGAIN FOR THE AUDIENCE.
SO IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN LAND USE FOR THIS YEAR, THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO REAPPLY UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
CORRECT? MOST FOLKS APPLIED BY OCTOBER 1ST, AS WAS THE TRADITION IN THE PAST.
SO THOSE FOLKS EXCUSE ME, THAT APPLIED OCTOBER 1ST WILL NOT HAVE TO APPLY UNTIL MAY 1ST 25.
I THOUGHT YOU'D SAY THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ON THAT, YOU SAID THE BOTTOM.
THEY'VE GOT TO PAY BY JUNE TO KEEP IN THE LAND USE, BUT IT'S NOT KICKED OUT UNTIL DECEMBER.
YEAH. AND THIS MIRRORS THE STATE LAW, WHICH WE DON'T WRITE.
IF IT'S STATE LAW, IT'S STATE LAW MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH IT, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I DON'T RATE IT, I JUST REPORT IT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. GORDINEER.
[E. Public Hearings]
ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, NOW'S THE TIME FOR.THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CORRECTION TO THE LAND ORDINANCE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, PLEASE DO SO.
ANYBODY INTERESTED IN COMING UP AND SPEAKING? YOU HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP, MISS KNOTT? NO, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ALL RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MR. CHAIRMAN, IF NO BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THESE CORRECTIONS TO THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. MS. KNOTT CALLED THE ROLL.
SHE MUST BE HAVING DIFFICULTY UNMUTING.
NEXT ON THE LIST IS VDOT REPORT.
[F. Reports]
MISS SMITH. YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT TO THE CROWD.[00:30:01]
FOR THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I HAVE LEFT CARDS FOR EVERYBODY.SO I AM YOUR PRIMARY CONTACT FOR VDOT.
THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS I DID WANT TO GO OVER TONIGHT.
THE BULL HILL COURTHOUSE ROAD PROJECT DID START A LITTLE BIT SLOW, BUT IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
GOLF COURSE ROAD, THAT DETOUR.
I DID GET THE NOTES FROM THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS AT THAT LOCATION, PARTICULARLY THE DETOUR ITSELF, TRYING TO IMPROVE THE SIGNAGE.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
SO AS SOON AS I GET UPDATES ON THAT, I'LL SHARE.
WE DID SEND OUT A LINK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MANUAL FOR THE NEW MEMBERS.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THERE AS FAR AS WHAT VDOT WILL AND IS UNABLE TO PERFORM.
IT ALSO HAS FUNDING SOURCES AND A LOT OF GENERAL INFORMATION.
BUT AGAIN, IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN REACH ME DIRECTLY.
I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN GENERATED.
YES. FROM A CITIZEN CALLING THE COUNTY DIRECTLY.
ONCE THE COURTESY REVIEW IS DONE, OUR TYPICAL PROCESS IS TO BRING THE RESULTS TO THE BOARD.
IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FORMAL REVIEW BY OUR ENGINEER.
IT IS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RESULTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE WITHHELD.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMEBODY REQUESTS A SPEED REDUCTION AND THE STUDY COMES BACK THAT THE SPEED NEEDS TO BE INCREASED BY THE ENGINEER, THEN WE ARE OBLIGATED TO POST THE INCREASE.
SO IT IS TIME FOR OUR SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT PLACED ON THE APRIL AGENDA.
BAD NEWS FUNDING WAS REDUCED FOR EVERY YEAR OF THE PLAN, SO FROM 2025 TO 2029, THOSE YEARS WERE IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN.
THE PLAN WHEN WE APPROVED IT, ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED $130,624 PER YEAR.
THE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN REDUCED BY $25,499 PER YEAR.
THE ADDITIONAL YEAR IN THE PLAN WILL BE 2030, WITH AN ADDITIONAL 105 125.
SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK EVERY YEAR THE PLAN YOU WILL NOW GET 105 25, INCLUDING THE NEW YEAR, IN LIEU OF THE 130 THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND I AM SORRY TO SAY, ALL OF THAT FUNDING WAS OBLIGATED TO MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON.
SO THERE WILL BE NO NEW PLAN RECOMMENDED.
I WOULD BE I WILL BE RECOMMENDING THAT THE ADDITIONAL 105,125 BE PLACED IN THE MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON ROUNDABOUT PROJECT TO SUPPLEMENT THE DECREASE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT WILL BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU UP FRONT, THAT IS GOING TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST THE BOARD DISCUSS THAT BEFORE I COME IN APRIL.
IF THE BOARD AGREES WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ADVERTISEMENT. NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
NO. THAT'S JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT.
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YES, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.NOWADAYS A SMALL TURN LANE WILL RUN YOU $1 MILLION.
Y'ALL GOT ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR MR. SMITH? ALL RIGHT.
JOURNEY. DURING THE THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE FOR YOU LAST MONTH, I HAD ASKED ABOUT THE EXIT 45 TRAFFIC STUDY, AND HE WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW UP WITH ME.
I NEVER GET ANYTHING FROM HIM.
OKAY, THAT IS UNDER STUDY, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE SAD HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ACTUALLY THE CORRIDOR FROM EXIT 45 DOWN TO THE BARBECUE PLACE, THE SPEED LIMIT THERE, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE EXIT RAMP GOING SOUTH, GETTING OFF AT EXIT 45.
IF YOU COULD CHECK ON THAT FOR ME, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
AND THEN YOU JUST GIVE ME SOME NEWS I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR.
SO GOLF COURSE BRIDGE IS IN NOVEMBER.
THAT'S THE PLANNED COMPLETION DATE.
THAT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THE PROJECT WAS LET.
HE TOLD US LAST MONTH, OCTOBER.
BUT THAT'S OKAY. WELL, NOVEMBER 1ST, END OF OCTOBER.
I HAD TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THAT.
IS THERE A WAY WE COULD GET A ELECTRONIC SIGNBOARD? TELLING HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED? IT HASN'T BEEN INSTALLED YET, SO YES, WE ARE PLANNING TO DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL BE PERMANENT JUST BECAUSE THE CONSTRAINTS ARE SO TIGHT IN THERE.
OKAY. I MEAN, MY CONCERN IS THAT IS THE ALTERNATE ROUTE.
ACTUALLY, IT'S THE MAIN ROUTE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN.
AND IF WE HAVE A TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK STUCK AT PUMP HOUSE AND GOLF COURSE.
AIN'T NO TRUCK GETTING THROUGH.
AND I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRUCKS ARE COMING THROUGH THERE FOR.
WE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME FIGURING THAT OUT AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE FORD.
IS IT A FORD PLACE RIGHT THERE OR SOME KIND OF AUTOMOBILE OR SOMETHING? YEAH, BUT IT'D BE EASIER FOR THEM TO COME STRAIGHT DOWN PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE INSTEAD OF TURNING ON THWEATT TRYING TO MEANDER BACK THERE.
I JUST WANT TO BRING THOSE TO YOU.
LET ME WANT TO BET YOUR GPS IS AT FAULT FOR THAT SHORTEST ROUTE.
AND I DID MAKE NOTE OF THE DRAINAGE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE GOT A GULLY WASHER AGAIN.
SO I WILL GET WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.
COULD YOU FOLLOW UP AND LET US KNOW STATUS ON THAT? ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU, MISS SMITH.
THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
[G. Order of Business]
BUDGET FOR 27,567 30.APPROVAL OF A BUDGET TRANSFER OF 70 70,007 8736.
GOOD EVENING, MISTER CHAIRMAN.
BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE AND MS. ERARD. THANK YOU.
AS I REPORTED IN THE LAST QUARTERLY REPORT, OUR GARAGE RENOVATION PROJECT DID COME IN UNDER BUDGET.
THE FIBER WORK WAS DONE AND BUILD, AND THAT AMOUNT THAT WE ARE UNDER BUDGET IS $98,354.66.
DURING OUR FY 25 BUDGET PROCESS, OUR GARAGE MANAGER AND OUR DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES MADE SOME CAPITAL REQUESTS THAT WE ARE ASKING TO BE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE NOW INSTEAD OF INCLUDING THEM IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
THE GARAGE MANAGER REQUESTED TWO MOBILE COLUMN LIFTS AT A COST OF $27,567.30.
WE ARE ASKING THAT THE PROJECT BUDGET BE ALLOWED TO BE USED TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES.
THERE WAS A QUOTE ATTACHED TO YOUR PACKET, AND THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THAT IS A REQUEST TO TRANSFER FROM THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET TO THE GENERAL SERVICES GENERAL FUND.
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WEBB. THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THAT AUTHORIZES THESE ACTIONS.AND MISTER SIMMONS DOES HAVE A LEAD ON A USED BUCKET TRUCK IN ROANOKE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT COST IS ABOUT 75,000.
SO HE IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT AS SOON AS THIS IS AUTHORIZED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? THE BUCKET TRUCK IT'S REPLACING.
WHAT YEAR IS THAT? THAT'S AN 80S MODEL CORRECT? WE DO NOT CURRENTLY OWN A BUCKET TRUCK.
WE USE THE SCHOOL BUCKET TRUCK WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE.
OKAY, SO. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE OUR OWN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND WE ALSO GOT A QUESTION.
THANK YOU, MS. DREWRY. THANK YOU.
WHAT'S YOUR FLAVOR? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND. MS. KNOTT CALLED THE ROLL.
MR.. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE NEXT WE HAVE.
YES. AND GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN WEBB.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
YES. AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY NOW WITH THE UPDATE OF THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
CONSULTANTS BEEN ON BOARD, WORKING FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS, AND WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW.
TIME FOR AN INITIAL MEETING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR AN UPDATE FROM THE CONSULTANTS ON WHAT THEY'VE JUST DETERMINED AND DISCOVERED UP TO THIS POINT, AND HAVE SOME ENGAGEMENT WITH THE BOARD AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION I NOW I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FOR SORT OF QUESTION AND ANSWER.
AND THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST ENGAGEMENT WE'D HAVE.
IT'S MARCH TO ..WHAT'S YOUR PROPOSED DATE, MR. BOWMAN. THIS IS MARCH 21ST.
THIS IS NEXT WEEK. AT WHAT TIME? 6:00. SO WE WOULD JUST NEED A MOTION TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING ON MARCH 21ST AT 6:00.
OKAY. OKAY, I'M PRETTY SURE I'M AVAILABLE.
IF NOT, I'LL CHANGE MY SCHEDULE.
YEP. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO LOOK AT THE CALENDARS? NO, I ALREADY BOOKED IT ON MY CALENDAR, SO I'M GOOD.
I HAVE A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION.
SECOND. MS. KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL.
RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT WRAPS EVERYTHING UP.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO TOMORROW NIGHT.
SECOND. MS. KNOTT CALLED THE ROLL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.