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[A. Call to Order]
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE FEBRUARY 27TH, BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S REGULAR MEETING.MISS KNOTT, WILL YOU CALL ROLL, PLEASE.
>> ALL RIGHT. NOW, MR. BROWN IS GOING TO DO THE INVOCATION TONIGHT.
>> HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING JUST TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US YET TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO WATCH OVER THIS BOARD AS WE GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS DELIBERATION OVER THE ITEMS IN OUR AGENDA.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO WATCH OVER ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, CITIZENS, FIRE EMS, POLICE, AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY THAT WORK EACH AND EVERY DAY TO TRY TO HELP THE CITIZENS, AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU AT THIS TIME TO WATCH OVER OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AS HE IS AWAY THIS WEEK.
WATCH OVER HIM AND HIS FAMILY, AND HELP TO GUIDE HIM BACK SAFELY HOME AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.
WE ASK ALL THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU ALL. NEXT ITEM IS A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 3 UNDER ORDER OF BUSINESS.
I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION AT A UPCOMING MEETING.
>> A MOTION SECOND. CALL ROLL, MISS KNOTT.
>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE TONIGHT.
PLEASE COME UP, GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WHEN THE YELLOW LIGHT COMES ON, PLEASE TRY TO WRAP IT UP IN 30 SECONDS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY ELSE'S TIME.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK? MISS KNOTT, WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP?
>> ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ABOUT THE LANDFILL PRICES THAT WE HAVE IN PRINCE GEORGE.
COULD YOU START OVER AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE?
>> SURE. TAMARA GRIGGS, 9500 SHADYWOOD ROAD, PRINCE GEORGE VIRGINIA 23875.
MATTRESSES, I WAS KNOCKED OFF MY FEET, $30 FOR A MATTRESS, $30 FOR BOX SPRINGS AND TVS.
IF IT HAS FREON IN IT, OR REFRIGERATOR, $30.
NO WONDER THE COUNTY HAS SO MANY.
YOU SEE CHAIRS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU SEE BED, YOU SEE COUCHES, YOU SEE ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
YOU COME UP HERE TO THE RECYCLE UP HERE, YOU SEE BIG SCREEN TV SETTING OUT HERE.
THAT'S FOR PLASTIC AND METAL, BUT I CAN SEE WHY.
THE CITIZENS, WHY CAN'T WE BE LIKE DINWIDDIE COUNTY THAT IT'S FREE, OR AT LEAST CAN WE MAKE SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE PEOPLE IN PRINCE GEORGE ON THE LANDFILL? ONE OTHER THING AND I WON'T ELABORATE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IS THE STORM WATER ON THESE TAXES THAT WE GET.
I'M 5/8 OF A MILE BACK OFF ON A PAVED ROAD, AND I DON'T SEE WHERE MY $36 IS DOING ANYTHING AT THE END OF MY LANE.
YOU GO OUT THERE AT ANY GIVEN TIME BY THE MAILBOXES, AND WE GOT WATER THIS DEEP STANDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE MAILBOXES.
WHERE IS MY $36 GOING? I'D LIKE TO KNOW. THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
>> I'LL HAVE SOMEBODY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
>> HELLO, BOARD. MY NAME IS JUSTIN NOBLIN, 8724 CENTENNIAL ROAD.
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I WANTED TO COME HERE AGAIN AND TALK ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT ISSUES AND LAND USE.I'LL START WITH THE FIVE PARCELS THAT I'M PERSONALLY FAMILIAR WITH, AND I'VE SEEN ENORMOUS INCREASES, AND THEN SPEAK ON AS MANY ISSUES AS I HAVE TIME TO ADDRESS.
WE'RE SEEING WE HAVE ONE PARCEL, ONE ACRE, THAT'S RAISED UP $30,000.
ONE PARCEL, 32 ACRES, IS GONE UP $83,200.
FIVE PARCELS ON ONE FARM THAT CONSISTS OF 36 ACRES.
ONE PARCEL, THAT'S 97 ACRES, IS UP $159,000, AND ANOTHER PARCEL THAT'S 187 ACRES, IS UP $404,700.
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE ABSURD INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE APPEALS PROCESS.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT APPEALS, AND YOU NEED TO GET TO APPEAL THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND APPEAL THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION, AND THEN YOU CAN EVEN GO TO THE CIRCUIT COURTS.
I'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH THE WAY THESE ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN DONE.
THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS ERRORS IN THESE ASSESSMENTS.
WE'VE SEEN ALMOST 2000 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE INCREASED BETWEEN 10 PERCENT AND 10,000 PERCENT, AND IT AMOUNTS TO $225 MILLION PLUS INCREASED ASSESSMENTS FROM '24-'25.
FIVE ACRES IS NOW BEING VALUED AT $80,000 WITHOUT ANY ACCURATE DATA TO JUSTIFY, AND NUMEROUS INACCURATE ENTRIES IN COMPARISON PRICING HAVE BEEN FOUND IN JUST A SMALL SAMPLE OF DATA REVIEWED.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF MISTAKES THAT CAN CAUSE CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS, THESE ARE THE KIND OF MISTAKES THAT CAN CAUSE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HEARTACHE FROM THESE CITIZENS.
WE'VE ASKED FOR EXTENSIONS, WE'VE ASKED FOR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BOARD.
WE'VE SPOKE TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN AND NOW WE ARE RELYING ON THE BOARD TO GET THIS DONE PROPERLY.
KING WILLIAM COUNTY REFUSED AN ASSESSOR'S ASSESSMENTS IN 2021 FOR INACCURATE DATA.
THIS INACCURATE DATA HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE COUNTY, IT'S BEEN GIVEN TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE WITH IT.
EITHER EXTEND THE DEADLINE, OR REFUSE THE ASSESSMENTS AND GO BACK TO THE OLD ASSESSMENTS UNTIL ACCURATE DATA CAN BE ENTERED.
THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO DO.
YOU ALL HAVE GOT TO STAND BEHIND YOU ALL'S OFFICE, AND DO WHAT CAN BE DONE TO FIX THESE ISSUES.
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. ANYONE ELSE?
>> LEYLA MYERS, 8711 SECOND COURT DISPUTANTA, VIRGINIA.
I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR THREE YEARS THAT THIS ASSESSMENT PROCESS MAKES NO SENSE, AND THIS HAS COME TO THIS.
THANKS TO THE ATTORNEY'S RELEASE OF THE EXCEL DATA SPREADSHEET, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER ANALYSIS OF THIS DATA.
THERE ARE ABOUT 700 PROPERTIES ACROSS THE COUNTY THAT ACTUALLY SHOW NO CHANGE IN VALUE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE SOMEBODY MANUALLY ADJUSTED TO CORRECT THE ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS A CONFLICT OF A CLAIM OF ASSESSOR'S OFFICE WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON'T DO INDIVIDUAL ASSESSMENTS, THEY DO IT BY A MASS ASSESSMENT BATCHES.
THERE ARE SOME LOTS THAT WERE OVERTAXED LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S WHY THEIR LAND VALUE HAD TO BE BROUGHT DOWN THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THIS BLANKET ASSESSMENT THIS YEAR.
YOU HAVE ACTUALLY ABNORMALITIES WHERE YOU HAVE PARCELS THAT HAVE THEIR LAND VALUE PORTION DECREASED BY 10,000 AND 45,000.
BUT THEN THEY GO AND PICK UP 700 PROPERTIES, AND ONE BY ONE, INCREASE THE BUILDING VALUE ON THAT PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHANGE TOTAL IS ZERO PERCENT.
THAT IS A MANUAL PICKING OF 700 PROPERTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A ZERO CHANGE TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTIES WERE OVERTAXED LAST YEAR ALREADY.
THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES THAT HAD THEIR LAND VALUE CUT BY 45, 50 PERCENT. THE COUNTY HAS A PARCEL OF 25 ACRES THAT HAS ITS LAND VALUE DECREASED BY 25 PERCENT.
I GUESS THE LAND VALUE IS GOING DOWN BY THAT MUCH ON SOME PROPERTIES.
THERE ARE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES OF FIVE ACRE.
THEY ARE ASSESSED AT 80,000, BUT THEY WERE SOLD FOR 55,000 AND 65,000,
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THEY WERE SOLD ON THE MARKET, UNDEVELOPED, AND ARE STILL UNDEVELOPED, BUT THEY ARE ASSESSED TODAY AT 80,000.>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK?
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ANGELA MOODY AND I LIVE AT 20116 HORSESHOE ROAD, CARSON, VIRGINIA 23830.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE COUNTY ASSESSMENTS, AS ARE MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT.
I AM CURRENTLY A REALTOR WITH PRINCE GEORGE REALTY AND RECENTLY CELEBRATED MY 21ST YEAR AS A LICENSED REALTOR.
I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD ASSESSMENTS VERSUS APPRAISALS, BUT I'M SLOWLY STARTING TO QUESTION MY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
APPARENTLY, THE APPRAISAL CLASS I TOOK IN ORDER TO RECEIVE MY BROKER'S LICENSE IS NO LONGER VALID BECAUSE NOW ASSESSMENTS ARE CONSIDERED 100 PERCENT APPRAISED VALUE.
[NOISE] GOING FORWARD, A REALTOR WILL NO LONGER NEED TO CONDUCT A CMA, AND APPRAISERS WILL NO LONGER NEED TO APPRAISE THE PROPERTY, WE WILL JUST USE THE PROPERTY CARDS FROM THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND HAVE OUR 100 PERCENT APPRAISED VALUE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT A REQUEST WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO ADD A TOPIC TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
THE REQUEST WAS TO DISCUSS A ONE-WEEK EXTENSION FOR RESIDENTS TO FILE APPEALS WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
KEEP IN MIND, THIS WAS ONLY A REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION, NOT AN APPROVAL.
I WAS ADVISED THAT THE REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION WAS DENIED.
I HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER THAT A ONE-WEEK EXTENSION WOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.
IN MY OPINION, ALLOWING A ONE-WEEK EXTENSION WOULD GIVE ALL RESIDENTS THE REASSURANCE THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS DO CARE ABOUT ITS RESIDENTS AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO SHOW UNITY AND SOLIDARITY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COUNTY.
A ONE-WEEK EXTENSION WOULD ALLOW EVERYONE THE ABILITY TO ATTEND MR. GORDINEER'S MEETING ON MARCH 6TH, AND POSSIBLY AVERT MANY APPEALS BEING FILED, NOT TO MENTION, AVOID MANY PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS COMING INTO THEIR OFFICE.
THERE ARE TOO MANY DISCREPANCIES AND UNKNOWN SURROUNDING THIS NEW AGENDA AND RESIDENTS DESERVE MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM THE COUNTY OFFICIALS.
FOR INSTANCE, ON THE COUNTY FACEBOOK PAGE TODAY, IT MENTIONS THAT THE DEADLINE FOR APPEALS WITH ASSESSOR'S OFFICE IS MARCH 1ST.
BUT IT IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS STATES THAT THE APPEALS RECEIVED AFTER MARCH 1ST WILL STILL BE REVIEWED BY THE OFFICE STAFF BEFORE BEING PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
SO IS THERE A DEADLINE? ONE LAST COMMENT OR SUGGESTION.
I WOULD DARE SAY THAT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS IN OUR COUNTY ARE NOT AWARE OF THE ISSUES SURROUNDING THIS MATTER.
THE COUNTY CURRENTLY PUTS OUT A NEWSLETTER VIA MAIL THAT IS BASICALLY WORTHLESS BY THE TIME IT REACHES THE RESIDENTS.
THE COUNTY ALSO USES SOCIAL MEDIA AT TIMES, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THOSE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT WE HAVE A LARGE GROUP OF RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA OR HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR ABILITY TO USE A COMPUTER OR SMARTPHONE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE COUNTY NEWSLETTER BE ISSUED MONTHLY OR BI-MONTHLY TO EACH RESIDENT WITH UPCOMING BOARD OF SUPERVISOR TOPICS AND ALL OTHER COUNTY EVENTS.
LET THE RESIDENTS DECIDE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO OPT OUT OF RECEIVING THE NEWSLETTER VIA MAIL, OR BETTER YET, ALLOW RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE THE NEWSLETTER VIA EMAIL.
I PRAY THAT EACH ONE OF YOU WILL TAKE TO HEART WHAT I'VE SAID TONIGHT.
I'M NOT A PUBLIC SPEAKER, SO FOR ME TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU IS HUGE.
PLEASE DO NOT DISREGARD WHAT THE RESIDENTS HERE HAVE TO SAY DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M BOBBY CLEMENTS.
I LIVE AT 13909 ARWOOD ROAD, DISPUTANTA.
I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT AFTER HEARING SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ASSESSMENTS.
I PURCHASED A 13-ACRE TRACT BEHIND MY PROPERTY LAST JANUARY, JANUARY A YEAR AGO.
IT WAS ASSESSED THIS YEAR AT $120,000.
THE LOT I LIVE ON IS THREE ACRES.
IT WAS DIVIDED INTO FIVE SEPARATE PARCELS, AND THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT FOR THAT WAS $255,000.
THAT'S THREE ACRES SEPARATED INTO FIVE PARCEL, $255,000.
A 3/4 ACRE LOT ON THAT IS VALUED AT $50,000.
I THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT INFORMATION OUT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK?
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>> GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.
12275 LILLY LANE, PRINCE GEORGE.
I'LL GIVE YOU MY HENRY FORD ANALOGY HERE REAL QUICK.
HENRY FORD WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE HE FOUND OUT THAT HE NEEDED ONLY FIVE ENTITIES TO RUN HIS BUSINESS.
WE ALL KNOW FORD MOTOR COMPANY.
PRINCE GEORGE IS A BUSINESS AND YOU ALL ARE THE BOSS, JUST LIKE HENRY WAS.
I'VE DEALT WITH MR. BROWN AND MR. WEBB, AND THEY WERE VERY GOOD TO CALL ME BACK AND HELP ME WITH THE ORDINANCES THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH IN THE PAST.
I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU HAVE THE TIME TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY CALL YOU, IT'S WELL RECEIVED.
LONG STORY SHORT, HENRY AND I WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER AT MALONEY IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
HE CAME IN CLASS ONE DAY AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO START AN AUTOMOBILE BUSINESS.
I SAID, YOU'RE CRAZY, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
HE WENT OUT AND HIRED THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
WELL, A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER WHEN I MET HIM IN COLLEGE, I WAS IN COLLEGE, HE WAS IN BUSINESS, HE SAID, EVERYBODY'S COMPLAINING BECAUSE WHEN THEY TURNED THE STEERING WHEEL LEFT, IT GOES RIGHT.
HENRY WAS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT STEERING WHEEL.
HE WENT DOWN TO HIS EXPERT IN THE STEERING WHEEL PORTION OF THE BUILDING OF THE CAR AND STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, YOU ALL ARE THE BOSS, YOU ALL ARE THE HENRY FORD.
GO DOWN TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE YET OR NOT, BUT IT'S A MESS AS YOU CAN TELL BY EVERYBODY TALKING HERE TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO JUMP OFF THE HENRY FORD'S STORY AND TRY TO GET TO THE SIMPLE APPLICATION THAT WE NEED TO FILL OUT.
THE APPEALS APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE TO FILL OUT BY MARCH 1ST.
THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO GET TO TIME IN.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE READ IT.
LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT FORM HERE.
IT SAYS HERE THAT THIS FORM MUST BE COMPLETED AND FILED WITH THE NECESSARY ATTACHMENTS.
WHAT'S THE NECESSARY ATTACHMENT? TO THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE BY MARCH 1ST, OR WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE CHANGE OF ASSESSMENT NOTICE DATE.
WHAT IS THE ASSESSMENT NOTICE DATE? YOU GET AN ASSESSMENT AND I CAN'T FIND IT.
MAYBE SOME BODY CAN HELP ME WITH.
THERE IS NO ASSESSMENT NOTICE DATE.
SO IS IT THE MAILING, THE POSTMARK, OR THE RECEIVING OF IT OR WHAT? THEN YOU GO FROM THERE AND IT SAYS IT MUST INCLUDE ALL ATTACHMENTS.
WHAT ARE THE ATTACHMENTS GOING TO BE? COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL US WE FIND THE COMPS, WHICH I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ASSESSOR SHOULD DO.
HE PROBABLY HAS MORE ACCESS TO THINGS THAN MOST OF US.
NOW, GRANTED I'M A LITTLE UP ON IT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING REAL ESTATE FOR 30 SOME YEARS AND WE KNOW WHAT TO DO.
YOU GO AND YOU FIND YOUR ARM'S LENGTH TRANSACTION, SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED MOST RECENTLY, WHERE ONE PERSON SOLD AND THE OTHER PERSON BOUGHT, AND IT WASN'T FAMILY, IT WASN'T A DEVELOPMENT, IT WASN'T ANY OF THAT.
THAT'S WHERE YOU GET YOUR COMPS.
MOST OF THESE COMPS HAVE BEEN IN THE 50S AND 60S.
EVERYBODY'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE FIVE ACRES TONIGHT AND THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
OF THE 11 ACRES THAT IT'S ASSESSED AT.
>> SORRY, SIR, YOUR TIME'S UP.
>> ONLY 4.5 OF IT IS NOT IN DEVELOPMENTS, BUT PLEASE READ THIS THING.
THERE'S 20 THINGS THAT ARE WRONG ON HERE.
IF YOU'RE THE COMMON CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS AND UNDERSTAND.
THEN HE SAYS, YOU NEED TO BRING IT.
>> SIR, I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME'S UP.
>> NO WAY ANYBODY'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN THIS STUFF.
THEY LOOK AT IT, AND THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY, I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
I APOLOGIZE. I'LL BE GLAD TO TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING.
>> THEY DON'T KNOW THIS STUFF.
>> I UNDERSTAND. I'M HEARING YOU, SIR.
ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> I'M RICK TETTERTON. 9750 BLACKWATER FARM LANE, DISPUTANTA.
>> GOOD EVENING, FOLKS. EVERYBODY KNOWS ME, BUT I'M LOOKING AT ONE OF MY ASSESSMENTS.
A PIECE OF LAND ON LEBANON ROAD, WE BOUGHT FOR $475,000 TWO YEARS AGO, WE REMOVED $250,000 WORTH OF TIMBER.
THAT'S PART OF WHY WE PAID WHAT WE PAID FOR.
IT WENT UP AND WE DIDN'T SAY A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT, AND THEN IT WENT UP THIS YEAR FROM 492,900 TO 897,600.
I WOULD CHALLENGE THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE ME ONE SINGLE COMP ON RAW TIMBER LAND THAT COMES EVEN CLOSE TO THAT PRICE PER ACRE.
I WOULD FURTHER CHALLENGE THAT OFFICE TO PROVIDE ME
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ANY COMPS THAT WOULD JUSTIFY $80,000 ON FIVE ACRE TRACKS.SEVERAL OF US IN THIS ROOM SELL THEM FOR A LIVING.
WE'D LOVE TO GET 80, WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING.
BUT HE'S EVEN ASSESSED MY PROPERTY OUT ON 460 WHERE EVERYBODY SEES THE HOUSES GOING UP, AND HE SAYS THOSE ARE $80,000 LOTS.
WE HAVE YET TO SELL A FIVE ACRE TRACT FOR OVER $65,000 THERE.
FURTHERMORE, HE DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
HE SAYS IF IT HAS A PERK SITE, IT'S A BUILDING SITE.
SOUNDS GREAT, EXCEPT REGULAR SEPTIC IS 12,000.
STANDARD SEPTIC THAT WE USE ON MOST OF OUR STUFF NOWADAYS IS 20,000, MAYBE A LITTLE HIGHER, AND YOU CAN GO AS HIGH AS $40,000 OR $50,000 ON SOME OF THE SWAMP PARCELS THAT HE'S SAYING ARE WORTH THE SAME 80,000 THAT HE CLAIMS THE REST OF THIS STUFF IS WORTH.
LIKE MR. CHAPEL JUST SAID, YOU'VE GOT A COUNTY FULL OF PEOPLE THAT DO THIS.
WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT WHAT WE DO.
WE'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP, BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO WANT TO ASK FOR IT.
THERE'S NO WAY, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS IN THIS BUSINESS, AND HE HAS WAY MORE THAN ME, THAT YOU CAN CONVINCE ANY REALTOR WITH ANY REASONABLE AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE ACCURATE, THEY'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO LOOK INTO IT, SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT.
I'M GOING TO ASK ONE OTHER THING.
HERE'S THE INTERESTING PART OF THIS.
I WENT FROM 492 TO 897, MY TAXES WENT FROM 954 TO DROPPING TO 810 BECAUSE OF THIS NEW FORMULA.
NOW I BELIEVE THAT'S A DECEITFUL SITUATION BECAUSE I THINK THE AVERAGE PERSON IS GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, WOW, MY TAXES WENT DOWN, THIS IS GREAT, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN THEIR MOUTH UNTIL YOU GO FOR THE ROLL BACK WHERE THEY COLLECT CURRENT YEAR PLUS FIVE.
ON THAT PARCEL RIGHT THERE AFTER SIX YEARS, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO $18,000 DIFFERENCE, NOT WHAT THEY ALREADY COLLECT, DIFFERENCE.
THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON AND I'M GOING TO ASK EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR COMMENTS IN A FEW MINUTES.
I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS BOARD SUPPORTS THE LAND USE POLICIES AS THEY'RE WRITTEN IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER REASON I CAN FIGURE FOR HIM DOING THAT IS SO WE GET REAL COMFORTABLE AND THEN YOU PULL IT OUT FROM UNDER US AND NOW INSTEAD OF PAYING $2,000 OR $3,000 A YEAR, WE'RE PAYING $6,000 OR $8,000.
YOU'RE GOING TO TAX FARMERS OUT OF BUSINESS.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL.
>> ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU. MOVE TO A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
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>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE SUPERVISOR COMMENT.
[C. Comments]
I'M GOING TO START TO MY RIGHT THIS TIME.I THINK I STARTED LEFT LAST TIME.
>> I HEARD A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT ADDRESSING YOUR CONCERNS.
I'VE RECEIVED MULTIPLE PHONE CALLS REGARDING ASSESSMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
TO ANSWER ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED TONIGHT, THIS BOARD MEMBER IS FOR AGRICULTURAL AND LAND USE POLICY PROGRAMS. AS LONG AS I'M ON THIS BOARD, I WILL NEVER VOTE TO DO AWAY WITH IT.
TO ANSWER SOME OTHER QUESTIONS, I HAVE HAD A MEETING WITH THE ASSESSOR.
I LEARNED A LOT WHEN I HAD THAT MEETING.
I'VE PRESENTED SOME INFORMATION AND I'M WAITING FOR A RETURN ON THE INFORMATION TO FIND OUT IF THE DATA WAS ACCURATE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
HOPEFULLY, I'LL HAVE THAT AFTER THE APPEAL DATE.
ALSO, I TURNED IN MY APPEAL TODAY ON MY PROPERTY.
IT WAS WELL RECEIVED IN THE OFFICE.
WENT IN THERE AND THEY HELPED ME OUT, THEY ACCEPTED IT.
I CAUTION, EVERYBODY, IF YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION, REACH OUT TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
THEY'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP YOU GET RESOLVED.
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, YOU CAN CALL ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP IN ASSISTANCE, SPEAKING FROM ME.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEETINGS COMING UP, PLEASE ATTEND THEM WITH WHAT WAS POSTED ON THE COUNTY TODAY.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY IN THE APPEAL PROCESS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME.
>> WELL, ON THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED FOR US TO MAKE A COMMENT ON DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE FORCED INTO ANSWERING ANYTHING.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT, AND ONCE I'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK THROUGH IT AND THINK I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT.
I WILL AGREE THAT WITH THE ASSESSMENTS, IT'S BEEN NOTATED ON FACEBOOK.
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I AGREE, FACEBOOK MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY.BUT AGAIN, I WOULD SAY, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU TO REACH OUT TO MR. GORDINEER'S OFFICE.
IF YOU'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THAT RESPONSE, THEN YOU CAN REACH OUT TO MR. STOKE, BECAUSE MR. GORDINEER WORKS FOR MR. STOKE.
WE ARE HERE, WE TRY TO HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT LEGALLY, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN AND WE CAN'T DO.
THERE ARE CERTAIN STATEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE.
THERE'S A LOT MORE STATEMENTS WE CAN'T MAKE.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DO NOT LOOK GOOD IN ORANGE.
I'M NOT GOING TO JAIL FOR ANYBODY BECAUSE OF MAKING A PUBLIC STATEMENT ON A PRIVATE MATTER.
THAT'S MY COMMENT FOR TONIGHT.
>> GOOD EVENING. AGAIN, THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING TONIGHT, AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT STOOD UP AND SPOKE.
LAND USE, YES, IT'S GOING TO STAY AS FAR AS ANYTHING I HAVE TO DO WITH IT.
PRINCE GEORGE HAS ALREADY LOST A LOT OF ITS RURAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT IT HAD WHEN I MOVED HERE, AND I FEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE EVEN MORE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE MOVED THIS COUNTY FOR.
THEY MOVED HERE FOR THE RURAL LIFE.
FARMERS, IT'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID WHEN YOU'RE RIDING IN THE ROAD AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHEN THE DEW IS ON THE FARMS AND YOU'VE GOT THE FRESH SMELL OF FRESH TURNED EARTH, THAT IT'S PLEASING TO THE SENSES, AND I WANT TO SEE THAT STAY.
AS FAR AS THE EXTENSION OF THE DEADLINE, I WAS THE ONE THAT REQUESTED THAT.
THE MAJORITY BOARD FELT IT WAS NOT A NEED.
AFTER HEARING WHAT HAS BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND WHAT WAS POSTED, I GUESS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A NEED FOR AN EXTENSION BECAUSE IT IS SOMEWHAT OF AN EXTENSION BEING GRANTED.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN IT IS ANSWERS, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS.
I TOOK THE MEETING WITH MR. PUGH, WITH MR. GORDINEER, AND OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TWO WEEKS AGO THIS FRIDAY.
WHILE WE DID GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION, WE STILL ARE LACKING SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, AND IT'S INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO BRING BACK TO YOU ALL.
PLEASE REACH OUT WHEN YOU HAVE CONCERNS.
YOU WILL GET A CALL BACK FROM ME.
I MAY NOT RETURN YOUR CALL RIGHT AWAY, BUT I WILL CALL YOU BACK, BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU.
>> WE HEAR YOU ALL, AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT ON SOME.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU STRAIGHT UP, I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF AN EXTENSION, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE REASONS FOR THAT.
YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE JUST LIKE THE LADY, I CAN'T RECALL YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY, MA'AM.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T DEAL WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, OR ANY OTHER CRAP. I DON'T.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ELECTRONIC STUFF, AND BY THE TIME YOU GOT SOMETHING OUT IN THE MAIL WOULD BE TOO LATE.
SO IF YOU TRY TO CHANGE SOMETHING MIDSTREAM ON THEM AFTER IT'S ALREADY BEEN POSTED, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD ALREADY TOOK THE TIME TO GO TO ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, WHATEVER YOU HAD TO DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND THEN FIND OUT AN EXTENSION WAS GIVEN? THERE'S ALREADY AN EXTENSION BUILT IN TECHNICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE AGREED THEY WILL HEAR AND TRY TO RESOLVE EVERY ISSUE BEFORE IT GOES TO THE BEO.
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS STUFF. WE DO HEAR YOU.
I'VE ALWAYS TAKEN PHONE CALLS.
THERE'S NOT A PERSON THAT I KNOW THAT CAN EVER SAY THAT I NEVER CALLED THEM BACK.
MAY NOT BE THE EXACT SAME MINUTE YOU CALL ME, BECAUSE I DO WORK A FULL TIME JOB, BUT I WILL CALL YOU BACK.
LAND USE, I KNOW OF ANYTHING AND HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH LAND USE IN THIS COUNTY, AND I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT.
NOW, YOU GOT TO KEEP IN MIND, SOME OF THIS STUFF IS DRIVEN BY THE STATE AND THERE'S A LOT OF CRAZY STUFF GOING ON UP AT THE STATE LEVEL.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES OUT THERE TO TRY TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT COULD EVENTUALLY OVERRIDE US.
I'M NOT TRYING TO GET OFF TOPIC.
SOLAR FARMS JUST HAPPEN TO BE A PET PEEVE OF MINE.
WELL, WE HEAR YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
BUT PLEASE, REACH OUT TO MR. GORDINEER'S OFFICE AND SEE IF YOU CAN RESOLVE IT AND BRING YOUR INFORMATION OR WHATEVER YOUR QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT, AND WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH IT.
I HATE TO PUT IT THIS WAY, COMING FROM A CORPORATE WORLD, HAVING TO GO TO BOE MAY NOT BE THAT BAD.
I KNOW IT DOESN'T SOUND WELL TO YOU ALL IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND.
IT'S LIKE A GRIEVANCE AT A PLAN.
NOT ALL GRIEVANCES ARE BAD, AND IF IT HAS TO GET THAT TECHNICAL OR THAT DETAILED THAT WE HAVE TO LET A JUDGE DECIDE, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO RESOLVE IT PRIOR TO THAT.
WE DON'T WANT IT GOING TO THAT LEVEL.
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THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU.>> MR. WEBB, CAN I HAVE ONE THING?
>> I'M REMISS FOR NOT SAYING IT, BUT [INAUDIBLE] SATURDAY NIGHT, A BUSINESSMAN IN PETERSBURG, BUT HE WAS A COUNTY RESIDENT, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THINK THAT EVERYBODY HAVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS FOR HIS FAMILY.
MR. CHRIS SKORDAS FROM THE MAD ITALIAN WAS A VERY BIG SUPPORTER OF THE COUNTY, THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, AND SUCH.
I KNOW A LOT OF US GREW UP WITH HIM.
I JUST WANT TO REMEMBER HIS FAMILY AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU ALL.
>> YOU GOOD? NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENT. MISS DREWRY.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS.
JUST A FEW DATES THAT ARE COMING UP.
THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS A BUDGET WORK SESSION ON MARCH THE 4TH NEXT WEEK IN THIS ROOM.
THERE IS A MARCH DUAL PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY AT EACH POLLING LOCATION ON MARCH 5TH.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS A BUDGET WORK SESSION ALSO ON MARCH 5TH AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THIS ROOM.
DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME STARTS ON MARCH 10TH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> THANK YOU, MISS DREWRY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
[D. Public Hearings]
THIS IS A SPECIFIC SECTION SE-23-10, REQUEST TO PERMIT A COMMERCIAL CHILDCARE CENTER WITHIN A GENERAL BUSINESS B-1 ZONING DISTRICT, PURSUANT TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 90-393(28).THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 0.76 ACRES IN SIZE AND LOCATION AT 5840 ALLIN ROAD, AND IS IDENTIFIED ON THE TAX MAP AS 2302600-002-0.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INDICATES THE PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR VILLAGE CENTER LAND USE.
MR. TIM GRAVES IS GOING TO PRESENT.
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN WEBB, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MISS DREWRY, MISS ERARD.
THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, MR. WEBB.
AS WE WAIT ON THIS ITEM TO COME UP ON THE SCREEN, I'M GOING TO END UP SHOWING YOU A LOCATION MAP.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON NEAR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT COURTHOUSE ROAD AND ALLIN ROAD.
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS A CHILDCARE CENTER IN THE BUILDING.
THERE'S THREE BUILDINGS RIGHT NEAR THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE, AND THIS WOULD BE THE BUILDING ON THE FAR LEFT.
THIS IS PERMITTED BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THAT'S HOW IT MAKES ITS WAY TO YOU FOR A DECISION.
JUST GOING THROUGH HERE. THERE'S THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE BUILDING IN THE ROW OF THREE BUILDINGS.
IF YOU RECALL, YOU RECENTLY APPROVED THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO THAT FOR A CHILDCARE CENTER.
THIS IS THE SAME BUSINESS CENTER, SAME USE JUST IN AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S ZONED B-1 GENERAL BUSINESS, AS ARE MOST OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT.
THIS IS JUST A VIEW OF THE BUILDING FROM THE ROAD.
YOU HAVE A DEFINITION OF COMMERCIAL CHILDCARE CENTER THERE FROM THE ORDINANCE.
I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
THE ACTION REQUIRED BY THE BOARD IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE IT OR DENY IT.
PLANNING COMMISSION DID HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING IN JANUARY AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS.
THEY SAID IT'S EXPECTED TO BENEFIT THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE A LIST OF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE ADVERTISED THE CASE AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE CODE.
THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REQUEST?
>> THIS IS FOR THE SECOND BUILDING.
HAVE THEY HAD THAT MUCH RESPONSE? WHICH I'M HOPING THEY HAVE. [LAUGHTER]
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE IDEA.
SHE KNOWS THERE'S A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF DEMAND, AND SO SHE FEELS COMFORTABLE THAT SHE CAN HAVE TWO BUILDINGS GOING FOR THIS NEW BUSINESS FOR HER.
>> VERY GOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAD.
>> WITH TWO BUILDINGS, IS THERE GOING TO BE TRAFFIC STUDY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT DONE?
>> NOTHING LIKE THAT IS REQUIRED AND THE PLANNING STAFF DOESN'T FEEL LIKE ANYTHING'S NEEDED TO ASK FOR THAT, BASED ON THE LEVEL HERE.
YOU HAVE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND AN OFFICE PARK, SO IT SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR WHEN IT WAS FIRST BUILT.
>> GOOD? THANK YOU, MR. GRAVES.
FOLKS, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE COME UP AND SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST IF YOU CHOOSE.
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A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THIS DAYCARE CENTER.ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP? I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY MOVE, SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME NOBODY'S GOING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD. WELL, IT'S YOUR PLEASURE.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
>> THIS IS JUST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION 23-10 RELATED TO THE HEAVEN SENT CHILDCARE CENTER.
>> WITH THE CONDITIONS AS RECOMMENDED.
>> WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED.
>> MISS KNOTT, GOT A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[E. Order of Business]
IT IS TO AUTHORIZE TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONVEY A UTILITY EASEMENT TO VDOT, AND RIGHT AWAY TO DOMINION ENERGY.MISS ERARD IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS.
>> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.
>> THIS IS JUST A REQUEST FOR AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE, AND I WANTED TO GIVE THE BOARD AND THE CITIZENS A THUMBNAIL OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. I HAVE A CLICKER.
>> YOU'RE NOT IMMUNE TO IT. SOMETIMES IT WORKS, SOMETIMES IT DON'T.
>> HERE WE GO. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR EASEMENT.
THERE ARE EXISTING UTILITIES THAT NEED TO BE RELOCATED AS WELL AS THERE WILL BE SOME LINES FROM DOMINION THAT WILL BE LOCATED IN THE AREA.
HERE'S A SOUTHEASTERN VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S A SOUTHWESTERN VIEW.
THESE ARE TWO OF THE DETAILS THAT VDOT HAS PROVIDED IN TERMS OF APPROXIMATE LOCATIONS.
VDOT HAS VALUED THIS EASEMENT AT $550.
THEY DID INITIALLY REQUEST THAT THE BOARD WAIVE ANY COMPENSATION FOR THE EASEMENT.
I EXPLAINED TO VDOT THAT THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE BOARD, AND SO THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR ANALYSIS OF $550 OF WHAT THE EASEMENT IS WORTH.
I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU APPROVE AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE THIS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO GRANT THE EASEMENT.
>> THIS WOULD COME BACK. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THERE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN APPROVAL TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I'LL SECOND. MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING.
>> OH, I'M SORRY, I OVERLOOKED IT, MY FAULT.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO AWARD CONTRACT FOR GASOLINE AND DIESEL FUEL PRICES TO BARKSDALE OIL INCORPORATED.
MISS JURY IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS FINANCE.
>> YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS.
COUNTY CURRENTLY CONTRACTS OR USES A STATE CONTRACT WHERE MANSFIELD OIL IS THE CONTRACTED VENDOR THAT TRANSITIONED FROM CORALS PETROLEUM IN JULY OF 2022.
ON JANUARY 6TH, MANSFIELD IMPLEMENTED AN ADDED FREIGHT AND DELIVERY CHARGE WITH LITTLE TO NO NOTICE AS TO FOLKS THAT WERE USING THAT STATE CONTRACT.
THE FLAT FEE ADDITIONS WERE DEPICTED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WAS POSTED TO BOARD DOCS.
THERE WAS EITHER A $150 FLAT FEE, A $250 FLAT FEE, OR A $400 FLAT FEE DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF GALLONS AND THE METHOD OF DELIVERY.
THE ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL COST TO THE COUNTY IS UP TO $35,000 ANNUALLY USING THE SIMILAR MAKE UP OF
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FUEL DELIVERIES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED DURING THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR.FUEL CONTRACTS ARE TYPICALLY BASED ON A DIFFERENTIAL OR A MARKUP OF THE OPIS WEEKLY RACK AVERAGE BECAUSE OF THE FLUCTUATION IN FUEL PRICING.
UPON REALIZING THAT THIS DELIVERY CHARGE HAD BEEN IMPLEMENTED, OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICER BEGAN RESEARCHING OTHER COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS.
AFTER EXAMINING THOSE AVAILABLE COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS, WE RECOMMENDED AWARDING TO BARKSDALE OIL, A LOCAL COMPANY THAT THE COUNTY HAS DEALT WITH IN THE PAST.
THE DIFFERENTIAL IS A LITTLE HIGHER, HOWEVER, IF WE ARE ABLE TO AVOID A MINIMUM CHARGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN PAYING SINCE WE HAVE BEEN CONTRACTED WITH MANSFIELD, WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL BREAKEVEN, BUT WE WILL SAVE UP TO $35,000 IN ADDITIONAL FREIGHT CHARGES.
SO THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE AWARD THE CONTRACT USING PETERSBURG'S COOPERATIVE CONTRACT TO BARKSDALE OIL AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE, BUT NO LATER THAN MARCH 15TH, IF MR. TALMAGE AND MR. SIMMONS CAN MAKE THAT TRANSITION HAPPEN.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> YOU'VE HEARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS, DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.
>> MISS KNOTT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> MAY I SAY SOMETHING BEFORE THE BOARD ADJOURNS?
>> JUST TO THE CITIZENS TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MARCH 1 DEADLINE.
THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, SET UP A PROCESS TO TALK WITH CITIZENS ABOUT CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT ASSESSMENTS TO HOPEFULLY MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT MIGHT NEED TO GO TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
THAT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS, AS WELL AS TO REDUCE THE DOCKET OF THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
THE MARCH 1 DEADLINE WAS SET TO BALANCE THE WORKLOAD OF THE OFFICE AND TO ALLOW FOR THINGS TO BE PROCESSED IN AN ORDERLY MANNER.
THAT BEING SAID, THE ASSESSOR AND HIS STAFF ARE WELL AWARE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT VARIOUS ISSUES REGARDING THE ASSESSMENTS.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE WILL BE TURNED AWAY IF THEY COME ON MARCH 2ND OR MARCH 5TH AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND MY ASSESSMENT OR, I HAVE THIS ISSUE WITH IT, CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT IT? THE OTHER THING IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION, THE POINT OF THE APPLICATION ON THE LEVEL OF THE ASSESSOR IS REALLY JUST FOR THE ASSESSING OFFICIAL TO HAVE AN IDEA OR AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DISPUTE IS AND HOW TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT A TAXPAYER MIGHT HAVE OR MAKE A CORRECTION IF THAT IS WARRANTED.
I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF AN APPEAL APPLICATION WERE REJECTED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THE RIGHT INFORMATION OR ALL OF THE ATTACHMENTS.
IF ANYBODY NEEDS ASSISTANCE IN FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION, OUR OFFICE, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IS CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO ASSIST.
MY ASSISTANT, VICKI TURNER, COULD ALSO OFFER ASSISTANCE AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ALLEVIATES ANY OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPEALS AND THE DEADLINES IN THE APPLICATION, BUT I WANTED TO OFFER THAT.
>> THAT'D IT BE, SIR? THANK YOU.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TILL MARCH 5TH RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS OUR NEXT BUDGET WORK SESSION.
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU AT ANOTHER TIME WHEN THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE SETTLED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.