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[CALL TO ORDER ]

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MR. BROWN'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S 6:00, AND I'LL BE CALLING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BACK TO ORDER FOR OUR WORK SESSION AT 6:00. DO WE NEED TO CALL THE ROLL AGAIN, MA'AM? YES, SIR. SO WE DO NEED TO VOTE ON MR. BROWN JOINING US ELECTRONICALLY.

YES, MR. BROWN. YES, MA'AM.

IF YOU WOULD JUST INDICATE THE REASON THAT YOU NEED TO PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY, PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM. I AM CALLING IN FROM MY HOME AND AM CALLING IN DUE TO HAD A WORK COMMITMENT TONIGHT THAT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO ALLOW MR. BROWN TO PARTICIPATE ELECTRONICALLY? I SO MOVE TO APPROVE AND HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. BROWN. I'LL ABSTAIN.

MR. CARMICHAEL IS ABSENT THIS EVENING.

MRS. WAYMACK? YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. SO IT PASSES.

AND WELCOME, MR. BROWN OF COURSE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THE NEXT THING IS THE WORK SESSION.

[WORK SESSION ]

AND WE HAVE FIRST THING IS WHO IS GOING TO.

OH, THERE SHE IS. I DIDN'T SEE HER.

MS. HURT DISCUSSED THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN COMMENTS.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

WELCOME, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

I'VE GOT A POWERPOINT.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE AND MS. ERARD.

AND AS WE DROP THAT DOWN, WE'LL JUMP IN.

ONE OF THEM. BRIGHT LIGHT.

YEAH. AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE HEARD THIS, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO KIND OF RECAP IT AGAIN.

AND THEN AT THE CONCLUSION, WE'RE GOING TO ASK IF YOU WOULD PLACE THIS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO ACTUALLY TAKE A VOTE ON IT.

SO TO JUMP IN, WE JUST WANT TO REITERATE AGAIN THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT.

I'M SURE I'VE GOT TO MOVE THIS.

WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE A DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND A BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS MR. HARRISON. HE'S BEEN SERVING AS OUR INTERIM THREE SENIOR BUILDING INSPECTORS, TWO CURRENT VACANCIES, WHICH I'M PROUD TO SAY WE'VE GOT TWO OFFERS ON THE TABLE NOW THAT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED.

SO WE'RE FILLING THOSE VACANCIES.

WE HAVE A PLANS REVIEWER, ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR, AN OFFICE MANAGER AND TWO PERMIT TECHS.

SO OUR DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE, WE ARE ASKING TO CONVERT THAT INTO A SOLE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH WOULD BE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S BUDGET.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS CONVERT THAT POSITION THAT IS CURRENTLY THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR SLASH BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS THE PERMANENT POSITION THAT MR. HARRISON HAS HELD.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CONVERT THAT OVER AND MAKE THAT A SOLE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE MR. HARRISON INTO THAT POSITION.

THAT WOULD IN TURN ELIMINATE THE CURRENT POSITION THAT HE HAS HELD FOR MANY YEARS OF THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR/BUILDING OFFICIAL.

HE WILL RETAIN THE TITLE OF BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL.

BUT THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WITH THIS STRUCTURE IS AFTER THE RECENT COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE OF YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW AND STAFFING LEVEL STUDY, THAT WAS PART OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THERE WAS A NEED AND A DESIRE TO CREATE TWO SOLE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR POSITIONS THAT WAS NOT APPROVED IN THE FY 24 BUDGET.

BUT WITH THE PASSING OF MISS WALTON, WE DID GO BACK TO THE TABLE AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN AS TO WHAT THE COUNTY REALLY NEEDS.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT CHANGE.

NOW, MOVING THE MONEY INTO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S BUDGET, IT WOULD NOT COST ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY BECAUSE THE MONEY WOULD BE MOVED OVER TO THAT BUDGET TO SUPPORT THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S POSITION.

THE BOARD DID APPROVE THE HIRING OF A PLANNING DIRECTOR IN THE FY 24 BUDGET, AND MR. BALDWIN IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

AND AGAIN, THAT IS KEEPING WITH YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW AND STAFFING LEVEL STUDY.

SO WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE HERE FOR THE NEW STRUCTURE HELPING WOULD BE THAT CURRENTLY MR. STOKE DOES HAVE 18 DIRECT REPORTS.

THAT IS A LOT FOR ONE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO HANDLE.

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SO IN CREATING THIS DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, DEPENDING UPON THEIR CREDENTIALS, WHEN THEY WHEN THEY COME ABOARD, WE WOULD TAKE SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND SHIFT THEM IN, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE COUNTY'S ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

WE DON'T KNOW WHICH AREAS THEY WOULD FOCUS ON.

IT WOULD DEPEND UPON THE EXPERIENCE LEVEL OF THE PERSON THAT'S HIRED.

SO THAT IS IN SHORT, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS TO GIVE MR. STOKE A BETTER SPAN OF CONTROL AND TO FOCUS ON PROVIDING AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE SOLE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS.

SO THIS ACTION, IF APPROVED, WOULD REQUIRE THE BUDGET TRANSFER FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $234,632. SO AGAIN, IT HAS A NET ZERO INCREASE TO THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FY 24.

SO THEN THE NEXT STEPS ARE WE ARE SEEKING YOUR PERMISSION TO ADD THIS ITEM TO YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR TONIGHT.

AND WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION PREPARED FOR THAT.

IF YOU DO SO, CHOOSE TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA.

SO IN DOING THAT, YOU WOULD BE CHANGING YOUR CDCC DEPUTY DIRECTOR TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN WE WOULD CHANGE THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SLASH OVER TO A SOLE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

OH. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE.

JUST TO MAKE IT SORT OF CLEAR WHAT WE'RE DOING.

MR. HARRISON WOULD GO INTO THE POSITION OF CD.

DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE WOULD ADVERTISE FOR THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

THAT'S CORRECT. WE WOULD NOT BE LOOKING TO PROMOTE ANYBODY INTERNALLY OR ADVERTISE IT INTERNALLY.

IT WOULD BE AN EXTERNAL RECRUITMENT AND WE WOULD DO THAT IMMEDIATELY.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT I WOULD DISCUSS WITH YOU TONIGHT IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.

OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH IT.

OKAY. YES.

WHAT? MR. BROWN, WE JUST NEED.

I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU MR. BROWN. THANK YOU.

AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA, WE'LL ADD IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. MISS HURT.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS LAND USE AND PRIVATE ROADS.

MR. BALDWIN. IF YOU WOULD, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

IT'S CERTAINLY MY PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE I JOINED THE COUNTY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE. SO THANK YOU.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HOPEFULLY START WHAT WILL BE KIND OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE COUNTY'S LAND USE PLANNING AND PROGRAMING.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD HAS ALREADY STARTED TO WORK ON STRATEGIC PRIORITY THREE AND STRATEGIC GOAL 3.14, WHICH IS UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND UPDATING YOUR LAND USE ORDINANCES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START THAT CONVERSATION TONIGHT.

AND WITH THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS, REALLY TALK ABOUT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE PLAN, THE ONE WE'RE USING TODAY, IT'S REALLY BASED OFF A PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN 2007 AND HAS BEEN UPDATED A COUPLE OF TIMES. TYPICALLY ON THAT FIVE YEAR SCHEDULE, PEOPLE REFER TO FROM THE STATE CODE WHEN YOU OUGHT TO UPDATE IT.

WE'VE REACHED THE POINT NOW WHERE THE 2018 PLAN ONLY HAS A FUTURE PLANNING HORIZON OF 2025 AND MORE TYPICAL ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

YOU HAVE LIKE A 20 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON WHERE YOU'RE PLANNING OUT TOWARDS THE FUTURE.

SO I THINK THAT PLAN IS PRETTY MUCH REACHED KIND OF THE END OF ITS KIND OF USEFULNESS FROM 2007.

WE'VE HAD A LOT HAPPEN, OBVIOUSLY LAND USE WISE SINCE 2007, AND SO WE'D BE LOOKING TO DO A NEW PLAN AND THAT PLAN WOULD AGAIN HAVE A 20 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON.

SORT OF THAT SORT OF BASIC STUFF ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THIS IS A MANDATE FROM THE STATE.

THAT'S HOW YOU DO LAND USE PLANNING IN VIRGINIA.

THAT'S THE CODE SECTION 15.2 22-23 DICTATES THE REQUIREMENT TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND WITHIN THAT SECTION, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS THAT THE STATE WANTS YOU TO DO, SOME THINGS THEY SUGGEST YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER.

AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY MANDATE THAT YOU MUST COVER IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO KIND OF A MIXED SET OF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE DETAILED IN THE STATE CODE.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT THE STATE MANDATES WE COVER IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE WILL HAVE TO COVER IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEN ALL THOSE THINGS YOU REALLY WANT TO GET TO ARE ALSO WHAT YOU GET INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE COUNTY'S LONG RANGE PLAN FOR LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SET YOUR POLICIES, YOUR VISION, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE COUNTY FROM A LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.

AND WITHIN THAT YOU WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A LOT OF POTENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS OF INFRASTRUCTURE OR PUBLIC FACILITIES LIKE SCHOOLS OR PARKS YOU

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MIGHT WANT TO INCORPORATE INTO YOUR PLAN AS WELL.

AS I MENTIONED, SOME OF THESE TYPICAL THINGS THAT ARE MANDATORY.

WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

THERE'S A MANDATE THAT TRANSPORTATION BE COVERED AND WHATEVER YOU PUT IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE'S WITH THE VDOT SIX YEAR PLAN.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MANDATES.

WHATEVER THE REST OF YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS, YOU MUST COMPLY WITH THAT SIX YEAR PLAN, AT LEAST IN THE FIRST PART OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLANNING PHASE, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS CHESAPEAKE BAY PRESERVATION ACT.

THERE'S A CHECKLIST THAT THE DEQ USES.

SO AS YOU WORK THROUGH THAT PART OF YOUR PLAN, YOU HAVE TO SEND IT TO DEQ AND THEY CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE CHECKING ALL THE BOXES THAT THEY WANT YOUR LAND USE PLAN REGARDING COASTAL WHAT THEY CALL COASTAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT ARE COVERED.

THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS TO COVER MANUFACTURED HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THERE'S A NEW REQUIREMENT, I BELIEVE, FROM 2021 TO COVER BROADBAND.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF NEW THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDED THAT YOU MUST INCORPORATE INTO YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT TO ROLL ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO THE UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO ALL THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN ADDRESSING IN YOUR LONG RANGE PLAN.

SO THE PROCESS KIND OF FROM IN A NUTSHELL, AND SOME OF THIS IS DICTATED IN THE STATE CODE, SOME OF IT JUST NORMAL PROCEDURE IS TO LOOK AT YOUR PAST TRENDS IS SORT OF THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU ARE, KNOW WHERE YOU'VE BEEN TO HELP YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THE SORT OF THE THREE STEPS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO BE DOING IS REVIEWING PAST TRENDS AND TO HELP YOU PROJECT FUTURE NEEDS.

I JUST MENTIONED ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE IS THAT YOU MAKE SURE IN YOUR PLANNING THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING ENOUGH LAND DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO MEET YOUR NEEDS PRETTY MUCH THE WAY THEY DESCRIBE IT.

SO THAT'S JUST ONE AGAIN, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE LAND, USE PART OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN .

SO JUST GIVE ME AN IDEA. IT TOOK A COUPLE OF SNAPSHOTS OF A COUPLE OF THINGS TO LOOK AT, SORT OF PAST TRENDS.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A TELLING ONE.

IT REALLY SHOWS THE COUNTY'S POPULATION GROWTH GOING BACK TO 1990, AND YOU SEE A PRETTY STEEP PERCENTAGE INCREASE.

AND THIS PUTS THE COUNTY IN THE HIGH GROWTH CATEGORY WITH THE STATE.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE WE'VE HAD RATES AS HIGH AS 21%.

WE WERE 20% IN THE LAST CENSUS THROUGH 2020.

AND ONE THING THE BOARD SHOULD BE AWARE OF, THIS HAPPENED BACK WITH THE 2000 CENSUS AS WELL.

THERE'S A TRIGGER IN THE STATE CODE THAT IF YOU ARE OVER 10% GROWTH IN YOUR FROM ONE CENSUS TO ANOTHER, YOU HAVE TO INCORPORATE CLUSTER ALLOWS FOR CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT IN YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE AND THAT WOULD DEAL WITH YOUR RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURALLY ZONED LAND.

THE COUNTY DID THAT BACK AFTER 2000.

THE BOARD REPEALED IT AFTER THE 2010 CENSUS NUMBERS CAME OUT AND THE GROWTH RATE HAD DROPPED.

NOW THE GROWTH RATE IS BACK UP OVER 10% WHEN WE WERE REQUIRED TO PUT IT BACK IN IN SOME FASHION.

SO ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THAT, WE HAVE AN EARLY VERSION OF IT TO HAVE A STARTING POINT OF WHAT THE CLUSTER REQUIREMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

BUT THAT IS A MANDATE TO PUT THAT BACK IN.

SO WE'LL START WORKING ON THAT AS PART OF A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT WILL NEED TO COME FORWARD.

WE DID TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT USING JUST SORT OF A MAPPING.

I KNOW ONE OF THE GOALS THE COUNTY HAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA AND TRYING TO PROTECT THE LAND AND THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA.

THIS GIVES YOU SORT OF A VISUAL SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE LAST FIVE YEARS LOOKS LIKE IN RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITTING.

YOU DO SEE THERE'S STILL A GREATER THAN 50% AMOUNT IN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLAN AREA.

BUT IT'S NOT THAT GREAT OF A DIFFERENCE.

SO YOU SEE QUITE A BIT OF OF SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA.

SO THAT'S JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA. THAT'S THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND AGAIN, I'M JUST DOING THIS AS SORT OF A SNAPSHOT KIND OF AS YOU LOOK AT IS THIS SORT OF A PATTERN YOU'D WANT TO CONTINUE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME ALTERATIONS IN YOUR LAND USE PLANNING AND AND PROGRAMING TO DEAL WITH YOUR GROWTH TRENDS? ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WOULD LOOK AT, TOO IS YOU WOULD LOOK AT YOUR POPULATION PROJECTIONS THAT THE STATE CODE ALSO DICTATES WHERE YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR PROJECTIONS FROM.

YOU CAN EITHER USE CENSUS PROJECTIONS OR YOU CAN USE THOSE ONES THAT COME FROM FROM UVA, FROM WELDON COOPER.

THESE ARE WELDON COOPER NUMBERS RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THEIR ESTIMATION OF WHAT GROWTH LOOKS LIKE OVER THE NEXT 27 YEARS.

I GUESS.

WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE, THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S THEIR PROJECTIONS.

I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT 20, 30 NUMBER BECAUSE THE DATA FROM THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER 2020, PRETTY SLOW GROWTH.

I THINK SOME OF THAT COVID IMPACT AND THEY'VE GOT HIGH INTEREST RATES TODAY.

SO WE MAY NOT SEE THE GROWTH RATE.

WE'LL HAVE TO SORT OF TRACK THAT AS WE GO.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, THIS IS THE MOST RECENT PROJECTIONS FROM THE STATE.

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AND AGAIN, THAT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE STATE IS PROJECTING THE COUNTY'S GROWTH WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE KIND OF AN EYE OPENER, TAKE A LOOK AT THE CHESTERFIELD COUNTY GROWTH PROJECTIONS.

AND THEY'RE PROJECTING THE COUNTY THERE TO GROW BY 100,000 POPULATION IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO THAT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE.

OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THAT GROWTH TENDS TO FILTER ITS WAY IN THE COUNTY'S DIRECTION.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S WELDON COOPER PROJECTIONS.

AND WE JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS A AGAIN, A DATA POINT, A PIECE OF INFORMATION AS YOU'RE DOING YOUR FUTURE LAND USE PLANNING.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE I KNOW TONIGHT ON YOUR AGENDA YOU ALSO HAVE THE CONTRACT WE WOULD HAVE FOR US TO WORK WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP ON WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

JUST TAKE A MOMENT BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS WE'D BE DOING FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.

TIME WISE YOU'D BE LOOKING AT ABOUT A TWO YEAR PROCESS.

TYPICAL 20 TO 24 MONTHS, I THINK IS THE TIME FRAME.

AND WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER THIS EVENING IN THE CONTRACT IS REALLY ASSUMING THE CONTRACT IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

IT WOULD BE A PROCESS WOULD TAKE YOU UNTIL JULY OF 2025 BEFORE THE PLAN WOULD BE COMPLETE.

AND THAT'S COVERING ALL THOSE THINGS I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

IT'S AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, QUITE A LARGE AMOUNT OF DATA GATHERING AND WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN AND BASICALLY GIVE THE COUNTY A BRAND NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WOULD REPLACE THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE THAT DATES BACK FROM 2007.

AND LET ME STOP AT THAT.

AT THAT POINT, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I DON'T WANT TO GO ON TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.

IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS.

A NUMBER OF LOCALITIES AROUND US HAVE EITHER JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED THEIRS OR THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

IT SEEMS TO BE SORT OF THE SEASON FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATED.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THE STATE AND WITHIN THE REGION HERE WITHIN THE RICHMOND REGION.

SO IN ANY EVENT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S WE'RE HOPING TO GET MOVING ON THAT AND START THAT PROCESS.

AND I JUST MENTION JUST ONE OTHER THING.

YOU KNOW, THE THE WAY THE STATE CODE IS WRITTEN, THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEVELOPING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ACTUALLY BY STATE CODE.

DESCRIBED TO ME THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO DELIVER TO THE BOARD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT PROCESS IN PLACE.

WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE A PROCESS OF REGULAR INTERACTION WITH THE BOARD FOR GUIDANCE INPUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CONSULTANT AS WELL AS THE STAFF IS KEEPING YOU ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I THINK THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME JOINT MEETINGS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY ENGAGED PROCESS.

HOPEFULLY AS YOU WORK FROM WHERE YOU ARE TODAY TO HAVING A PLAN THAT YOU CAN HOPEFULLY BE ADOPTING BY THE SUMMER OF 2025.

SO THAT WILL BE SORT OF MY LAST COMMENT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION.

PLEASE, MR. BROWN. IF THE UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL NOT BE COMPLETED AND READY TO GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL 2025, HOW DO WE MANAGE THE REQUESTS THAT COME BETWEEN NOW AND THEN? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN CASES COME TO US, THE FIRST THING THAT'S STATED IS THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

BUT IF IT'S GOING TO CHANGE, WHICH I THINK IT WILL CHANGE DRASTICALLY, I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD WANT TO ALLOW A WHOLE LOT TO GO TOWARDS WHAT WE MAY BE SHIFTING AWAY FROM.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.

OKAY. WELL, FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WAS WAS DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, REMAINS IN EFFECT.

AND SO THAT IS THE DOCUMENT OF RECORD.

THAT'S THE DOCUMENT WE WILL USE AND WHILE WE CAN ANTICIPATE CHANGES IN THE FUTURE.

WE CERTAINLY SEE SOME AREAS WHERE I THINK THE BOARD IS GOING TO WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH ACTIVITIES.

YOU'RE GETTING NEW, YOU KNOW, NEW PUBLIC UTILITIES PLANNING, YOU'RE GETTING NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANNING.

ALL OF THAT HAS TO GET INCORPORATED INTO THIS PROCESS.

BUT IN THAT TIME FRAME BETWEEN NOW AND 2025, I MEAN, THE REQUIREMENT WILL BE WE WILL STILL HAVE TO KEEP USING THE EXISTING FULLY ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN . THAT IS THE PLAN OF RECORD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. I KIND OF KNEW WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO.

I WAS JUST CONCERNED HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT KIND OF USING SOME BETTER JUDGMENT ON SOME THINGS, KNOWING THAT IF WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING TO GO IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO ALLOW A WHOLE LOT OF GROWTH IN AN AREA THAT WE MAY WANT TO SAY, NO, WE WANT TO

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CONSERVE THAT MORE FOR X, Y, Z.

YOU KNOW.

AND JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT ON THAT IS THAT BASICALLY UNDER VIRGINIA LAW, THE BOARD HAS PRETTY MUCH UNLIMITED AUTHORITY IN WHICHEVER WAY IT WANTS TO ACT ON LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

YOU'RE NOT BOUND. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT.

IT'S A POLICY DOCUMENT, BUT IT IS NOT A MANDATED REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

SO I DO THINK THE BOARD HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY TO USE ITS JUDGMENT IF IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE OR NOT IN SUPPORT OF A LAND DEVELOPMENT GOING IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER THE PLAN CURRENT PLAN SAYS.

WITH THAT. OKAY.

EXCUSE ME, MR. BROWN.

NO, GO AHEAD, SIR. WITH THAT IN MIND, THEN, IF WE SEE IF THE BOARD SEES THAT THE PLAN IS LOOKING TO GO IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION, IS NOTHING TO PREVENT THE BOARD FROM ALLOWING SOME OF THAT TO HAPPEN IN THE FACT THAT IT'S LOOKING LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THAT ROUTE IN 25.

THAT'S CORRECT. EXACTLY.

AND WOULD SAY EITHER ALLOW OR MAYBE RESTRICT SOMETHING.

YES. BECAUSE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW.

YES, SIR. MR. BROWN.

EXACTLY RIGHT.

YEAH. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.

AND A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN TWO YEARS THAT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX LATER.

SO. WELL, I JUST THINK.

THAT'S ALL. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

IF YOU LOOK BACK IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, FROM WHEN THE 2007 PLAN WAS DONE, YOU THINK ABOUT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE GREAT RECESSION.

POST THAT PLAN BEING DEVELOPED THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN FRONT OF THAT.

YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE COVID IMPACTS.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH HIGH INTEREST RATE IMPACTS.

NONE OF THAT WAS ANTICIPATED IN ANY OF THE VERSIONS OF YOUR PLAN AS THEY WERE BEING DEVELOPED.

SO THINGS DO CHANGE, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES.

AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN, TRYING TO ANTICIPATE WHAT YOU CAN.

TYPICALLY I'LL SAY THAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A 20 YEAR TIME HORIZON, YOU TEND TO BE BETTER WHEN YOU LOOK AT IN THE SHORTER TERM.

SO MOST PLANS ARE GOING TO HAVE SORT OF A SHORT, MID AND LONG TERM SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE ONES YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT.

AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD JUST MENTION, TOO, IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS EVERY FIVE YEARS AS THE COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING, IS TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLAN AND SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED OR MODIFIED EVERY FIVE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO WAIT 20 YEARS LATER BEFORE YOU COME BACK AND WANT TO DO A COMPLETE REWRITE IF NECESSARY.

SO AND IN FACT, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THE BOARD FROM DECIDING TO UPDATE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT ANY TIME.

TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, TEN YEARS.

THERE'S NO MANDATE.

THE ONLY REQUIREMENT FROM THE STATE IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT IT EVERY FIVE YEARS AND MAKE THEIR DETERMINATION IF IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM BOARD.

I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE MORE.

HE'S GOT MORE. I HAVE MORE.

I'M NOT DONE. FOR THAT PIECE.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU. SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR ORDINANCE UPDATES BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN INITIATED HERE.

SO AND I CAN JUST TELL YOU FROM THE TIME I'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCES OR THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION IN PARTICULAR ARE IN NEED OF BEING UPDATED.

YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE DATES BACK TO 1965.

AND KIND OF INTERESTING AT THE TIME WHEN COUNTIES WERE ADOPTING ZONING ORDINANCES, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY WAS IN THE FIRST 20 OF THE 95 STATE COUNTIES TO ADOPT ZONING.

SO IT WASN'T A RUSH TO ADOPT ZONING, EVEN THOUGH THE AUTHORIZATION DATES BACK TO THE 1930S.

SO THE COUNTY DID DO THAT.

BUT THAT 1965 ZONING ORDINANCE IS STILL THE BASIS, STILL THE BACKBONE OF YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE.

AND THAT'S I WILL SAY THE COUNTY IS OUTGROWING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN THAT ZONING ORDINANCE.

AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING, YOU SEE IT ON A REGULAR BASIS OF APPLICATIONS THAT COME FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF CUSTOMIZED PLANNING YOU'RE GETTING.

YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF PROFFERS THAT ARE ELIMINATING USES.

YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF CONDITIONS ON SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF STANDARDS.

MANY OF THOSE THINGS OUGHT TO AUTOMATICALLY BE IN YOUR ORDINANCE AND YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS OUGHT TO BE CLEAR AND CONCISE ENOUGH WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO PERPETUALLY BE CRAFTING ZONING KIND OF ONE PARCEL AT A TIME, ONE PROJECT AT A TIME.

SO AND THERE'S JUST ROOM FOR A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT UPDATE OF THE ORDINANCE.

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SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

ONE THING THAT'S BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP IS TO DO BOTH A ZONING AND A SUBDIVISION.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IN A SECOND, BUT BUILDING A DIAGNOSTIC.

SO THERE'S TWO THINGS WE WANT TO DO.

ONE IS YOU WANT TO GO LOOK AT YOUR ORDINANCE AND SEE WHERE YOU'RE NO LONGER IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE CODE.

THERE'S BEEN STATE, YOU KNOW, AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS OVER THE YEARS.

SOME OF THEM HAVE MADE IT INTO YOUR ORDINANCE.

SOME HAVE NOT.

SOMETIMES THE TERMINOLOGY IS NOT CONSISTENT ANYMORE.

AND SO ONE THING YOU WANT TO DO IS GO BACK AND CHECK ALL OF THOSE THINGS SO YOU CAN MAKE SURE WHEN YOU UPDATE YOUR ORDINANCE, IT'S GOING TO BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND MANDATES OF THE STATE CODE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS TO DO IN ADDITION TO THAT.

WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES, INCLUDING STAFF IS WHAT WE SEE SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES ARE TRYING TO USE AND IMPLEMENT THE ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS WHAT DEVELOPERS AND CITIZENS AND OTHERS SEE AS CHALLENGES TRYING TO USE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

AND SO WE'LL GET A SORT OF A DOCUMENT THAT WE'LL SORT OF TAKE A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS AT THE MOMENT.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS, IF THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED, I KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO IMPLEMENT IT. SO YOUR IMPLEMENTATION TOOLS PRIMARILY ARE GOING TO BE YOUR ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.

THAT'S HOW YOU IMPLEMENT YOUR MOST OF YOUR OBJECTIVES FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ORDINANCES ALIGN WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN YOUR PLAN DOCUMENT IS IMPLEMENTED THROUGH YOUR REGULATORY SYSTEM, WHICH IS YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO WE'LL BREAK THAT DOWN INTO TWO PIECES.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE ORDINANCES LOOKS LIKE TODAY AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE END OF THE COMP PLAN PROCESS.

AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO FIX TO IMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE NEW PLAN WHEN IT'S DONE IN 2025.

SO I THINK IT'LL GIVE YOU A MUCH MORE I THINK GIVE YOU JUST A MUCH EASIER TO USE, MUCH MORE USABLE ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE SO MUCH INTERPRETATION AND SO MUCH MODIFYING SORT OF CASE BY CASE THAT KEEPS BRINGING CASE FOR THE BOARD.

AND THE OTHER THING WE WOULD DO IN THAT PROCESS IS FIND OUT FROM THE BOARD HOW MANY OF THESE PLANNING ITEMS DO YOU WANT TO BE SEEING? HOW MANY SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, HOW MANY THINGS DO YOU THINK REQUIRE BOARD OVERSIGHT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ORDINANCE IS REFLECTIVE OF THOSE ITEMS YOU WANT TO BE LOOKING AT? AND IF NOT, WE HAVE THE KIND OF STANDARDS BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE FOR THOSE THINGS THAT THAT YOU WANT TO ALLOW TO HAPPEN AS A MATTER OF RIGHT? SO THAT'S A REALLY CRITICAL COMPONENT OF YOUR LAND USE REGIME IS TO GET YOUR PLAN AND YOUR REGULATORY ORDINANCES IN CONCERT AND MOVE ON FROM THAT 1965 ORDINANCE TO A 2025 ORDINANCE, WE'LL JUST CALL IT.

AND I JUST MENTIONED BRIEFLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE THIS TOPIC ON FOR PRIVATE ROADS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

ONE OF YOUR OTHER IMPLEMENTATION TOOLS FROM THE PLAN IS YOUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS ANOTHER STATE MANDATE.

AND PRIMARILY THAT JUST DICTATES HOW YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR PROPERTY AND CUT IT UP INTO DIFFERENT LOTS THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE WHERE YOUR PRIVATE ROAD STANDARDS ARE COMING FROM.

SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO DISCUSS PRIVATE ROADS, THAT'S SUBDIVISION, REQUIREMENT.

AND SO SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR ORDINANCE TODAY, YOU KNOW, HAS A PRETTY CLEAR, DETAILED PHYSICAL REQUIREMENT.

WHAT THE PRIVATE ROADS, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT, THE VDOT STANDARD THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLYING WITH HAS A LIMITATION ON ON WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED AND HAS A LIMITATION ON HOW MANY LOTS ARE ALLOWED TO FRONT ON ONE OF THESE PRIVATE ROADS OR EASEMENTS.

AND IT ALSO HAS A LIMITATION ON HOW MANY OF THESE EASEMENTS YOU CAN HAVE IN A PARCEL.

SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM A GROWTH MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A PRETTY STRONG GROWTH MANAGEMENT TOOL BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF LIMITATIONS ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN YOU CAN DO OFF OF THESE PRIVATE ROADS.

I'LL ALSO MENTION IN YOUR FAMILY SUBDIVISION SECTION BY ALSO USES THE SAME STANDARD ON FAMILY, ON FAMILY SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

SO IT ALSO REFERS TO THE SAME SECTION.

IT TREATS FAMILY SUBDIVISION, PRIVATE ROADS THE SAME AS IT WOULD TREAT OTHERS.

AND THAT'S MY LAST COMMENT BECAUSE I'M REALLY MORE INTERESTED IN HEARING BACK FROM THE BOARD WHAT YOUR ISSUES OR CONCERNS OR DIRECTION MIGHT BE ON THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH JUST LOOKING AT OTHER COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE SINCE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE ROADS ARE NOT SOMETHING EXCLUSIVE TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, THE STANDARDS ARE ALL OVER THE BOARD.

THERE'S THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT FOR HOW YOU APPLY PRIVATE ROAD STANDARDS.

THERE ARE SOME LOCALITIES DON'T ALLOW THEM AT ALL, AND THERE ARE SOME LOCALITIES THAT ALLOW THEM WITHOUT RESTRICTION.

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AND THEN THERE'S EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

AND AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, YOU SEE THE SAME THING.

THE STATE CODE ON FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS VERY SMALL.

IT'S MAYBE IN THE STATE CODE, IT DOESN'T GIVE A WHOLE LOT OF GUIDANCE.

AND SO AS YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STATE WHERE LOCALITIES COUNTIES ARE ALLOWING FAMILY SUBDIVISION, YOU SEE THE SAME THING.

SOME ARE HIGHLY REGULATED, SOME ARE MINIMALLY REGULATED.

AND THAT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE DIRECTION THAT THE EACH LOCALITY WANTS TO TAKE ON THAT.

SO THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AND AND SOMETHING WE'D WANT TO BE WORKING, WHETHER WE'RE WORKING ON IT BEFORE THE REST OF THE BEFORE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DONE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES EARLIER ACTION, MORE OF THAT OR.

SOMETHING, WE WOULD ROLL INTO THE UPDATE OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AT THE END OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.

COMMENTS, MR. BROWN.

YES, SIR.

I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS TOPIC OF PRIVATE ROADS NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE START CONVERSATION ON NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL WE GET ENTIRELY THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE HAVE ISSUES THAT WE FACE AND WE TEND TO PUT IN BAND-AID FIXES INSTEAD OF REALLY ADDRESSING THE ROOT ISSUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, MR. STOKE KNOWS I'VE SHARED QUITE A FEW OPINIONS WITH HIM ON THIS WHOLE PRIVATE ROADS ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE RESTRICT THE NUMBER IF IT HAD TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD MAINTENANCE, THAT'S TO ME, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN TRYING TO RESTRICT THE NUMBER.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS.

DON'T WANT TO GET INTO GREAT DETAIL TONIGHT, BUT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE IF WE STARTED HAVING, ESPECIALLY AROUND PRIVATE ROADS AND, YOU KNOW, FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS BEING I DON'T SEE THEM, THE SAME AS BEING LIKE A 200 HOME SUBDIVISION.

AND I KNOW BACK IN THE DAY A LOT OF PEOPLE BOUGHT PROPERTY AND THEY BOUGHT IT WITH THE PURPOSE OF GIVING IT TO THEIR CHILDREN LATER ON IN LIFE. AND SO WHEN THEY START TO SPLIT THAT PROPERTY OFF, I DON'T THINK THAT FAMILIES LIKE THAT SEE THAT AS BEING LIKE A A SUBDIVISION THAT'S 100, 200 HOMES. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD START THESE CONVERSATIONS SOONER THAN LATER.

I AGREE WITH MR. BROWN.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SITUATIONS COME TO US.

I REMEMBER THE ROAD MAINTENANCE CAME UP A WHILE BACK.

NOT WELL, THE HOA.

THAT SHOULD BE THAT'S A CIVIL MATTER.

THAT'S NOT FOR US. BUT AS FAR AS THE ROADS, THE ONE THING WE DID AS FAR AS THE VDOT STANDARD ON IT WAS PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF ROADS IN THIS COUNTY THAT THE AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS CAN'T PHYSICALLY GET TO WITHOUT DAMAGING THEIR EQUIPMENT.

AND THAT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH AND IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE RULES ARE, INCLUDING THE BUILDER, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH.

IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING ON WELL, THIS ONE GOT PASSED, BUT FOR NOW IT'S ALMOST THE SAME THING.

YOU'RE TELLING ME I CAN'T DO IT OVER HERE.

SO I'M ALL FOR STANDARDIZATION SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO'S PLAYING BY WHAT RULES.

I AGREE WITH THAT 100% ABOUT THE STANDARDIZATION.

AND WE JUST NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS THAT WE DON'T CHANGE SOME LITTLE THINGS.

THAT'S GOING TO CONFLICT WITH WHAT OUR OVERALL LOOK IS.

SO BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE FACT THAT WE DO NEED TO GET ON IT SOONER THAN RATHER THAN LATER.

AND LOOK AT WHATEVER IS REQUIRED.

WE OUGHT TO BE WORKING TOWARDS WHAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED EVEN IF WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

RIGHT. AND I WOULDN'T INTEND TO WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT WOULD JUST BE A TEMPORARY LIKE A BAND AID.

RIGHT? WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY THE PROGRAM OUGHT TO BE.

EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD, WHATEVER THE INTENTIONS ARE.

AS FAR AS PRIVATE ROADS, I WILL MENTION IN TERMS OF THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, WE'RE ALREADY TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE IN FACT COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE FAMILY SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE'RE DEALING WITH EVEN SOONER THAN THAN THE REST, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE FIND SOMETHING WE'RE NOT SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE CODE.

WE NEED TO FIX THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE CAN'T PUT THOSE OFF FOREVER.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK BEFORE THE BOARD WITH SOONER THAN THAN LATER TO DEAL WITH THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION QUESTION.

I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. ALL RIGHT.

I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT TONIGHT OR EVEN STATE THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT.

BUT IF WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS OUT OF NOW, YOUR OFFICE THAT HAVE COMMITTED CERTAIN THINGS.

[00:35:07]

AND PEOPLE HAVE SPENT MONEY TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THIS BOARD THAT YOUR POSITION HAD THE FINAL SAY ON ANY OF THIS.

NOT BY MR. STOKES.

THAT WAS BY THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE I HAD CHALLENGED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HAD TO DO WITH CONSISTENCY AND ALL, BUT THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR A LATER TIME.

YEAH, AND MY THING ALONG THE PRIVATE ROADS WAS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A NUMBER LET'S I'M GOING TO USE A NUMBER.

LET'S SAY IT'S A LIMIT OF FIVE.

OKAY. SO SOMEONE HAS A CASE AND THEY SAY, HEY, CAN WE INCREASE IT TO SIX? THAT TO ME IS THE BAND AID EFFECT.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SEE WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO INSTEAD OF CHANGING THINGS WITH A NUMBER .

BECAUSE THEN WHEN THE NEXT PERSON COMES ALONG AND WANTS TO MAKE IT SEVEN, YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ARE THE BAND AID TYPE THINGS I'M SAYING WE NEED TO GET AWAY FROM.

I'M GOOD. OKAY.

MS. WAYMACK ANYTHING.

NO COMMENT. THANK YOU AGAIN.

YOU'RE WELCOME. SO THE IDEA IS PROBABLY THERE'S A FEW THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOONER THAN LATER.

BEING SURE THAT WE DON'T CONFLICT WITH THE OVERALL PICTURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PAINT.

YEAH. AND SO I THINK, AGAIN, GETTING SOME CLEAR GUIDANCE AND PART OF THIS PROCESS FROM THE BOARD SO WE KNOW WHAT IT IS YOU YOU WANT IT TO BE.

OTHER THAN CLEAR, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL TRUST ME, THE ONE THING I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN IS, IS WE APPLY THESE RULES ACROSS THE BOARD.

I DON'T LIKE TO GET IN A SITUATION.

ONE THING I DON'T LIKE IS GETTING IN SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO INTERPRET TOO MANY THINGS THAT OUGHT TO BE CLEAR.

AND I DON'T LIKE WHERE THERE'S TOO MUCH DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE TOO MUCH OF DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY, NOT REALLY PROVIDED MUCH IN THE CODE.

SO THE BOARD OUGHT TO SET THE REGULATION AND OUR JOB IS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY I APPROACH BOTH THE ZONING AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.

THE BOARD OWNS BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.

BOARD OWNS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

OUR JOB IS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE AND I DON'T TRY TO WORK AROUND IT IF WE FIND THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH IT, YOU KNOW, OUR STRATEGY TO COME BACK FOR THE BOARD AND SAY, WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE AND WE'D WANT TO DISCUSS AMENDMENTS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE TO STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT.

SO I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS TONIGHT AND WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK TOWARDS THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. NICE TO MEET YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. I THINK THAT ENDS OUR WORK SESSION FOR TONIGHT.

SO AT 6:37, WE'LL GO BACK INTO RECESS UNTIL 7 P.M.

FOR THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING.

WE'RE IN RECESS.

JUST START ALL OVER.

I KNOW, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE HAVE HAD A WORK SESSION AND WE'VE HAD

[INVOCATION]

WAYMACK LEAD THE BOARD IN THEIR INVOCATION.

OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS.

YOU HAVE AGAIN SPARED US FROM THE WORST OF THE STORMS THAT HAVE DESCENDED UPON THE AREA.

DEAR LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PROTECT US.

DEAR LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THOSE WHO ARE SORE IN SPIRIT AND WITH THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES AND ARE IN NEED OF COMFORT.

COMFORT THEM, LORD.

WE ASK.

DEAR LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THIS GROUP HERE TONIGHT.

AND OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE WILL DO WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING IN YOUR EYES, IN YOUR HOLY NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. WEBB LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, PLEASE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, FOLKS.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

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BUT I WANT TO MENTION ALSO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DIDN'T HEAR, MR. BROWN HAS JOINED US VIRTUALLY BECAUSE HE HAD A WORK CONFLICT, BUT HE MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO JOIN US VIRTUALLY.

SO HE IS WITH US VIRTUALLY.

AND MR. CARMICHAEL COULD NOT MAKE IT TONIGHT.

SO WE'RE MISSING ONLY ONE.

SO AT THIS TIME IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT TO THE BOARD ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA, COME FORWARD AND MAKE THE COMMENT AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD.

AND I'LL ASK THE CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO MAKE COMMENTS? NO, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP ALREADY PRE SIGNED UP.

SO AGAIN, I'LL ADVERTISE THE FACT THAT THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COME FORWARD TO THE BOARD AND SPEAK.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE BOARD COME FORWARD AS WE SPEAK.

SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, WE WILL CLOSE THAT SECTION AND OPEN THE AGENDA FOR ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.

[ADOPTION OF AGENDA ]

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION OF A8 COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.

DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

LET THAT BE ADDED TO A8 IN THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT ADDITION MADE, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

A MOTION AN A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MR. BROWN? YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

NOW WE HAVE THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.

[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]

WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.

SO MOVED. HAVE A SECOND.

I SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMENT? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. HUNTER. YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. BROWN. YES.

NEXT IS SUPERVISOR'S COMMENTS.

[SUPERVISORS' COMMENTS ]

AND MR. BROWN IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IF YOU WOULD, SIR.

GO FORTH. JUST AN APOLOGY FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE THERE IN PERSON TONIGHT AND I DO MISS EVERYBODY, BUT I'M STILL GLAD I'M ABLE TO PARTICIPATE THROUGH MICROSOFT TEAMS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.

WELL, WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU ARE WITH US AND SORRY THAT YOU COULDN'T BE HERE PHYSICALLY, BUT THANK YOU, SIR.

MISS WAYMACK? YES.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

THIS IS THE TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN PEOPLE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT GETTING THEIR VACCINES, NAMELY THE FLU VACCINE AND ANY OTHER VACCINE THAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR.

THERE IS A NEW VACCINE OUT NOW FOR ADULTS.

IT'S CALLED THE RSV, WHICH STANDS FOR RESPIRATORY SYNCYTIAL VIRUS NORMALLY THOUGHT OF AS A CHILD'S DISEASE.

BUT WE HAVE HAD EPIDEMICS OF IT LAST YEAR.

AND NOW THERE IS A NEW VACCINE THAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ANYONE 65 OR OVER. AND SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S ALSO A NEW COVID 19 VACCINE.

NOW, IT IS NOT A BOOSTER.

IT IS A NEW VACCINE THAT INCLUDES THE TWO VARIANTS THAT ARE CIRCULATING.

SO IF YOU WANT TO STAY WELL THIS WINTER, PLEASE THINK ABOUT BEING IMMUNIZED.

THANK YOU.

MISS WAYMACK. I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN GET ALL THREE OF THOSE AT ONE TIME IF YOU CAN ARRANGE IT.

YES, YOU CAN. YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME, 2 IN 1 ARM AND ONE IN THE OTHER.

MR. WEBB. MY ONLY COMMENT IS I'D LIKE TO THANK FIRE, EMS, POLICE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL HAD QUITE A FEW CALLS WITH THIS LAST SCARE WE HAD COME THROUGH.

WE DID GET SOME DAMAGE, BUT WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE COMPARED TO WHAT HAPPENED SOUTH OF US.

THEY REALLY GOT HAMMERED.

SO WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE.

BUT THANK YOU. YEAH.

GOOD OLD TURN IT AROUND.

DON'T DROWN TYPE THING PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR ADHERE TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAD SOME ROADS FLOODING IN THE COUNTY.

WITHOUT A DOUBT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER.

COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS.

[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS]

SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JUST SOME UPCOMING DATES.

AS A REMINDER, THE PRINCE GEORGE FARMERS MARKET CONTINUES EVERY SATURDAY THROUGH OCTOBER 28TH, WITH SEPTEMBER 30TH BEING HOT MULLED CIDER

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DAY. ABSENTEE VOTING HAS OPENED FOR EARLY IN-PERSON VOTING.

VOTING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AT THE PRINCE GEORGE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE, SECOND FLOOR, 8:30 A.M.

TO 4:30 P.M.

SCHOOL BOARD WILL BE HAVING THEIR NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 2ND RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

COUNTY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON OCTOBER 9TH FOR COLUMBUS DAY AND OUR NEXT MEETING HERE IS OCTOBER 10TH.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. STOKES. OKAY, NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO REPORTS WE HAVE WATER WASTEWATER AGREEMENT TO ADDRESS

[REPORTS ]

CAPACITIES, MR. HALTOM. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MR. STOKE. MS. ERARD, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE SLIDE SHOW THING TO COME DOWN.

AS YOU KNOW, WE MET ABOUT THIS IN AUGUST.

AND I JUST WANT TO GO OVER VERY BRIEFLY THE ISSUE, AND THAT IS WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS BY THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY THAT'S AVAILABLE AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECTS DUE TO THAT LIMITED CAPACITY.

SO WE BROUGHT TO YOU IN AUGUST A COUPLE CODE AMENDMENTS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND WE WENT THROUGH WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD ALLOW THESE DEVELOPERS TO RESERVE SOME OF THIS CAPACITY TO ALLOW THEM TO BEGIN THEIR INVESTMENTS INTO AND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

DURING THAT MEETING, THE BOARD REQUESTED STAFF TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS.

THEY ASKED US TO DEVELOP SOME CRITERIA FOR ANY TYPE OF REVOCATION OF WATER OR WASTEWATER CAPACITIES.

THEY ASKED US TO ADDRESS THE NOTIFICATION TO THE BOARD WHEN THESE THINGS OCCURRED, AS WELL AS DEVELOP AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR THAT SHOULD THOSE CAPACITIES BE REVOKED. AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AGAIN AND HOW WE UPDATED THOSE TO ADDRESS THEM.

BUT IN SHORT, THIS SLIDE HERE KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH THE MAJORITY OF IT.

SO WE DO PROPOSE THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.

AGAIN, WE WERE ASKING FOR ANYBODY WITH A COUNTY ISSUED PERMIT.

ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS A COUNTY ISSUED PERMIT FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT OR THEIR PARCEL SHOULD IT EXPIRE AT THAT POINT OF EXPIRATION, THEY WOULD FORFEIT THOSE CAPACITIES. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO IS IF FOLKS THAT ARE COMING IN, GETTING THEIR PERMITS, APPLYING, PAYING THEIR CONNECTION FEES AND NEVER GO INTO CONSTRUCTION FOR YEARS TO COME.

SO THE PERMIT, THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT ALLOWS US TO UTILIZE THAT AS A MEANS OF, OKAY, IF YOU'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH YOUR BUILDING PERMIT, YOUR BUILDING PERMIT GETS REVOKED. THEREFORE, WE WOULD ALSO REVOKE YOUR CONNECTION FEES.

EXCUSE ME, YOUR WE WOULD REVOKE YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITIES AND WE WOULD REFUND YOUR CONNECTION FEES.

SO WE'RE JUST USING THAT AS A TOOL TO, NUMBER ONE, ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, FOR THOSE THAT JUST WANT TO RESERVE IT IN PERPETUITY AND PREVENT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS FROM OCCURRING, THIS WOULD GIVE US THAT ABILITY TO TAKE THAT CAPACITY BACK.

AND AGAIN, ALL CAPACITY, SHOULD THEY BE REVOKED, THEY WOULD BE ISSUED A REFUND OF THOSE CONNECTION FEES.

AGAIN, THE SECOND CRITERIA HERE, IF THE DEVELOPMENT OR PARCEL HAS NOT USED THOSE CAPACITIES WITHIN THE TIME FRAME ESTABLISHED IN AN APPROVED WATER OR WASTEWATER AGREEMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY, WE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHTS TO TAKE THOSE BACK AS WELL.

THESE AGREEMENTS ARE FOR TYPICALLY FOR YOUR SUBDIVISIONS, FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE FOR COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISIONS AS WELL.

AND TYPICALLY IN THESE WASTEWATER AGREEMENTS, WE DEFINE THE TERMS FOR PROVIDING THEM WATER SERVICE AND THEY WOULD IN TURN AGREE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO ADD LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TERMS FOR RECEIVING A RESERVE CAPACITY FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

BUT IF THEY CHOOSE, IF THEY DO NOT MEET THE TERMS OF THEIR AGREEMENT, ANY CAPACITIES THAT REMAIN UNUSED, WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE BACK.

WE ARE ADDING IN THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.

THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF TERMS FOR REVOKED CAPACITY.

SO THEY WOULD BE AGREEING TO THE TERMS FOR REVOKING AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT.

SO ONCE THEY SIGN IT, THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED TO REVOKING THAT CAPACITY SHOULD THEY NOT MEET THEIR TERMS. SO JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I WANTED TO GO THROUGH.

THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT WE PRESENTED BEFORE, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE UPDATED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS IN YOUR PACKET.

BUT ESSENTIALLY ARE TRYING TO IN 82-41 I'M ONLY SHOWING JUST THE WATER AMENDMENTS THAT THE WASTEWATER AMENDMENTS VERY CLOSELY MIMIC

[00:50:07]

THIS THE WATER SIDE INSTEAD OF THE WORDS WATER YOU CAN REPLACE WITH WASTEWATER.

AND THEY SAY ESSENTIALLY THE EXACT SAME THING.

IN THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THIS IS RED.

THE RED IS THE NEW PORTION OF IT.

BUT ALSO IN HERE WE HAVE SOME HIGHLIGHTED OR BOLDED BLUE, WHICH IS SHOWING SOME CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU.

SO YOU CAN SEE WE CHANGED THE WORD THAT USED TO BE WE ADDED THE WORD PROPERTY OWNER IN LIEU OF DEVELOPER IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE DEVELOPER.

WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY OR TO ESTABLISH WATER AND WASTEWATER CONTRACTS.

AND AGAIN, WE JUST SAY CONTRACTS, BUT WE ARE REMOVING THE WORD CONTRACTS AND USING THE WORD AGREEMENTS THROUGHOUT.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE WE IDENTIFY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO RESERVE WATER CAPACITY SHALL BE DEALT WITH WITH THE AGREEMENT.

AND WE ADDED THE REVOCATION OF WATER CAPACITY AS PART OF THAT AS WELL.

SO IF THESE AMENDMENTS GET APPROVED, WHEN WE DO ANY NEW WATER OR WASTEWATER AGREEMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS OR PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY WILL KNOW UP FRONT AND THEY WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO NOT ONLY THE CAPACITY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO RESERVE, BUT THE TERMS FOR KEEPING THAT CAPACITY.

IF THEY DON'T MEET THOSE TERMS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT FOR THAT AGREEMENT TO REVOKE IT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE? I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO SAY, BUT HOPEFULLY IT WASN'T TOO CONFUSING.

BEFORE I MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY. SO THAT HOPEFULLY SETS UP THE CRITERIA.

AS WE WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN EARLIER, THERE'S REALLY ONLY TWO METHODS THAT WE CAN REVOKE IT, AND THAT'S THE BUILDING PERMITS IF THEY EXPIRE AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CHOSE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

SO SINCE THEY CHOSE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROJECT, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE BACK THE CAPACITY.

THE SECOND ONE ARE THE WASTEWATER WATER AND WASTEWATER AGREEMENTS.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO AVENUES THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE ARE GIVING OURSELVES THE RIGHT TO REVOKE CAPACITIES.

AND AGAIN, THE WATER AND WASTEWATER AGREEMENTS THERE ARE GOING TO AGREE TO THOSE TERMS UP FRONT.

SO IN THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING THERE REALLY DOES NOT NEED TO BE AN APPEAL PROCESS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY AGREED TO UP FRONT WHEN THE AGREEMENTS OR WITH THE BUILDING PERMITS SINCE EVERYTHING HAS EXPIRED AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS AGAIN, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH, GET APPROVALS AND THEN PAY THEIR CONNECTION FEES TO ESTABLISH WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITIES.

SO IN THIS NEXT SLIDE, WE KIND OF HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID ALREADY.

BUT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF NOTIFYING THE BOARD, I ADDED AT THE VERY END OF THIS, BUT ALSO AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT, WE CAN SEE WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NOTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL.

WE WILL NOTIFY THEM AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE WE REVOKE ANYTHING.

SO THEY WILL BE GIVEN PROPER NOTICE THAT IF THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TERMS OF EITHER THEIR AGREEMENT OR THE TERMS OF THEIR BUILDING PERMIT, THAT THEY WOULD BE THEY WOULD BE FORFEITING THEIR WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY.

BUT THE BOTTOM HERE, THIS REQUIRES ME TO NOTIFY BOTH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

SHOULD WE ACTUALLY DO? SHOULD WE ACTUALLY REVOKE ANYBODY'S CAPACITY WE WILL NOTIFY YOU ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED.

YES, SIR. NOTIFICATIONS IS THAT BY EMAIL, PHONE OR CERTIFIED MAIL? HOWEVER, WE HAVEN'T DEFINED THAT, BUT TYPICALLY WE WOULD SAY EMAIL OR IF YOU PREFER, WE CAN WRITE THAT IN HERE AS WELL.

I GUESS I'M GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE WE EMAILED PEOPLE SOMETHING AND THEY DIDN'T SAY THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE IT OR HONESTLY DIDN'T RECEIVE IT.

OR DON'T HAVE AN EMAIL.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE WRITING, TO THE APPLICANT OR THE PROPERTY OWNER OR NOTIFICATION TO THE BOARD? NO, THE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY. I GOT WE GOT TO READ OUR EMAILS.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

YEAH. TYPICALLY IN THIS CASE, IF WE'RE WRITING TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, THEN WE WOULD BE PUTTING THAT IN A CERTIFIED MAIL.

WE TYPICALLY TRY TO MAKE MULTIPLE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION TO THEM, AND THIS WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME THEY HEAR FROM US IF WE ARE SEEING THAT THERE'S NOTHING'S HAPPENING, WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM EARLY THAT THEY'RE AT RISK.

RIGHT. THIS IS REALLY A FINAL MEANS OF SAYING, OKAY, DO SOMETHING OR YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE CAPACITY.

OKAY. FOR OTHERS WAITING IN LINE.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH IT.

QUESTIONS, MR. BROWN? NO, SIR. I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD.

SO IF THE BOARD IS AMENABLE AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH THESE ORDINANCE CHANGES, WE WERE JUST REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO

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HEAR THESE CHANGES AND MOVE ON TO ADOPTING.

THERE'S A RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET THAT SAYS TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 24TH OF OCTOBER.

SO WE'RE AUTHORIZED THAT DURING A BUSINESS MEETING.

YEAH, WE CAN PASS THE RESOLUTION AT THIS TIME.

RIGHT. OH WE CAN.

OKAY. SO.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THAT RESOLUTION.

SO MOVED.

HAVE A SECOND. I SECOND.

A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? CALL THE ROLL.

MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

MR. BROWN.

YES. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANKS.

ALL RIGHT. MS. DREWRY. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE AND MS. ERARD AND ALL ASSEMBLED.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE QUARTER ENDED JUNE 30TH OF 2023, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OUR FISCAL YEAR END. SO THIS IS A YEAR END REPORT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTENSIVE THAN THE TYPICAL QUARTERLY REPORTS.

WE PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND GIVE YOU A PRELIMINARY INDICATION OF HOW WE'VE ENDED THE FISCAL YEAR.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, OUR REVENUES DID COME IN ABOVE THE TARGETED BUDGET WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND NET OF OUR PLANNED USE OF FUND BALANCE.

OUR REVENUES ARE 3.9 MILLION HIGHER, INCLUDING THAT PLANNED USE OF FUND BALANCE.

THEY'RE JUST SLIGHTLY UNDER.

BUT OF COURSE, WHEN YOU PLAN TO USE FUND BALANCE, IT'S AS IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO USE YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND NOT COLLECTED REVENUES.

SO WE ARE RUNNING A SURPLUS.

WE WILL ADD TO THE FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY DISCOVERED AN ADJUSTMENT THAT'S NEEDED THIS WEEK OF ABOUT $1,700 OF GENERAL FUND REVENUE THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS AMOUNT.

BUT OUR I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS WE MOVE THROUGHOUT THE SLIDES.

GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE ALSO UNDER BUDGET, SO OUR REVENUES ARE OVER WHAT WE BUDGETED AND OUR EXPENDITURES ARE LESS THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED BY ABOUT FOUR AND ONE HALF PERCENT.

SCHOOL DIVISION ALSO HAD REVENUES THAT EXCEEDED THEIR EXPENDITURES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR WITHIN THEIR OPERATING FUND, SO THEY WILL TO CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE OVER 55,000 TO THE FUND BALANCE.

BUT ALL TOLD, UNRESERVED CONTRIBUTIONS TO FUND BALANCE WILL BE INCREASED BY ABOUT 2.5 MILLION.

SO THAT'S A PRELIMINARY NUMBER.

BUT AGAIN, WE ARE OVER COLLECTED IN REVENUES AND UNDERSPENT, WHICH IS GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD STUFF. SO SO YES, OUR FUND BALANCE WILL GROW, AS I INDICATED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

AND JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD WHAT YOU DID COMMIT IN FUND BALANCE, IT'S LISTED THERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT TO YOU.

YOU PASSED INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES.

AND THERE IS THE BOARD DID MAKE A COMMITMENT AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING TO PROVIDE A LOCAL MATCH FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT MIDDLE ROAD AND JEFFERSON PARK. SO SO ALTHOUGH YOU'RE ADDING TO THAT FUND BALANCE, THERE IS A COMMITMENT ON THE BOARD'S PART PROBABLY OF ABOUT 1.9 MILLION I F YOU DO RECEIVE SOME FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO SOME NOTABLE ITEMS WITHIN THE REVENUE ARE REAL ESTATE TAX COLLECTIONS.

WE DID COLLECT WHAT WE BUDGETED.

WE'RE OVER BY ABOUT 1.48%.

SO OUR BUDGET WAS FAIRLY ACCURATE.

AGAIN, WE DID INCREASE OUR FY 24 BUDGETED AMOUNT WITH OUR GROWTH IN REAL PROPERTY BASED ON MARKET VALUES.

AND THE BOARD DID ELECT TO KEEP THE REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE AT $0.82 FOR FY 24, THE SAME AS IT WAS IN THE YEAR WE'VE JUST CONCLUDED. THOSE BILLS FOR 24 WILL BE DUE ON DECEMBER 5TH OF 2023 AND JUNE 5TH OF 2024.

THE REAL ESTATE LAND BOOK PROCESS IS COMPLETE.

THAT LAND BOOK HAS BEEN IMPORTED INTO OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM, WHICH IS TYLER MUNIS AND I BELIEVE THE TREASURER, THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, PROVIDE RELIEF OR ADDED RELIEF ITEMS TO THAT, AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE SUPPLIED PREPAYMENTS.

SO THE BILL PREPARATION IS IN THE WORKS.

OF COURSE THROUGHOUT FY 24.

WE WILL MONITOR REVENUE COLLECTIONS AS WE ALWAYS DO.

WE TRY TO ACCURATELY OR AS ACCURATELY FORECAST AS WE CAN.

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OUR PUBLIC SERVICE CORPORATION TAXES WERE ABOUT 6.4% HIGHER THAN WE BUDGETED.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS BASED ON SOME SOLAR PROPERTY ACTIVITIES.

OUR COLLECTIONS WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD ESTIMATED AND WE DID INCREASE THAT REVENUE PROJECTION FOR 24 ALSO BASED ON SOLAR ACTIVITIES.

I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE.

THIS SLIDE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT YOU DO HAVE A HARD COPY IN YOUR PACKET.

PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS.

AGAIN, WE WERE ACCURATE WITHIN 2.2% OF OUR TARGETED BUDGETED PROJECTION.

WE DID COLLECT SOME MOTOR VEHICLE LICENSE FEES EVEN THOUGH THAT REVENUE STREAM WAS ELIMINATED AND THAT WAS FROM DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTIONS WHERE THE DELINQUENT TAXPAYERS STILL OWED THAT FEE.

STATE SALES TAX.

WE COLLECTED SLIGHTLY MORE THAN WE BUDGETED BY ABOUT 7%.

BUSINESS LICENSES.

WE ACTUALLY EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET TARGET BY 34%.

WE DID INCREASE THAT REVENUE STREAM FOR FY 24, BUT NOT TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE COLLECTED THIS YEAR OR THIS PAST YEAR.

MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX WE COLLECTED HIGHER THAN WE HAD BUDGETED.

WE DID INCREASE THAT REVENUE PROJECTION AND OUR LODGING TAX REVENUE WAS ABOUT 33% HIGHER WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND THAN WHAT WE HAD ESTIMATED.

SO ALL GOOD NEWS.

WE ARE CONSERVATIVE IN WHAT WE BUDGET.

WE DO TRY TO ACCURATELY FORECAST, BUT AGAIN, HAPPY TO BRING YOU THAT THOSE COLLECTIONS ARE IN THE BLACK, SO TO SPEAK.

OTHER NOTABLE ITEMS PERMITS 33% HIGHER THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED.

CONSERVATIVE BUDGETING.

BUT AGAIN, VERY BUSY IN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE.

PLANNING FEES WERE RIGHT ON TARGET.

EMS TRANSPORT FEES WERE 16% HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED.

WE CONSERVATIVELY BUDGETED THOSE BASED ON OUR COVID ACTIVITY, IF YOU WILL.

I KNOW THE NUMBER OF CALLS WAS DOWN DURING COVID.

WE ARE RECOVERING AS WE ARE WITHIN PARKS AND REC.

PENALTY AND INTEREST BECAUSE WE DID NOT OFFER A WAIVER AS WE HAD IN PAST YEARS THROUGH AUGUST 31ST.

THOSE COLLECTIONS WERE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, 65% MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD TARGETED IN THE BUDGET.

INTEREST REVENUE HAS RECOVERED.

WE ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED A LOSS AND WE SHIFTED OR DISCUSSED WITH THE TREASURER'S SHIFTING SOME OF OUR INVESTMENTS.

BUT INTEREST RATES, AS YOU WELL KNOW, ARE ALSO UP.

WE FELL SHORT IN A FEW ITEMS SLIGHTLY BELOW IN OUR MOBILE HOME TAX, WHICH IS TAXED AT THE REAL ESTATE PROPERTY TAX RATE, OUR CREDIT CARD CONVENIENCE FEE. WE BUDGETED AMOUNT BUT THEN WERE LATE STARTING IT AND THEN WE CURTAILED IT DURING THE YEAR BECAUSE WE CHANGED OUR THIRD PARTY PAYMENT PROCESSOR AND ARE NO LONGER BEING THE MIDDLEMAN FOR THAT CREDIT CARD CONVENIENCE FEE.

THAT CONVENIENCE FEE IS PAID DIRECTLY TO THAT THIRD PARTY PROCESSOR BY OUR TAX PAYERS.

WE ALSO WERE UNDER IN OUR FEDERAL SOCIAL SERVICES WELFARE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER SPENT.

THOSE REVENUES DIRECTLY TIE TO WHAT WE ARE SPENDING.

SO SO JUST OUR CSA REVENUE, WE HAVE SOME POSSIBLE ADJUSTMENTS.

WE WILL BE COLLECTING AN ADDITIONAL 3900 FROM CSA REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES.

WE ARE STILL DOING DETAILED REVIEWS AND WE HAVE TO DO SOME UNCOLLECTED WRITE OFFS. SO THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'VE SEEN AND WE ARE STILL SEEING A TRICKLE IN OF SOME FY 23 INVOICES.

WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED SOME INVOICES FOR A TOWER SITE THAT WE HAD NOT BEEN RECEIVING THROUGHOUT FY 23 VERY RECENTLY, ABOUT $6,300 WORTH.

THAT WILL BE BOOKED TO 23.

SO AGAIN, THE NUMBERS THAT I'M GIVING YOU ARE PRELIMINARY YEAR END ADJUSTMENTS ARE STILL UNDERWAY.

UTILITIES SHOWING A SLIGHT OPERATING LOSS FOR THE YEAR.

SO FAR, WE ARE ACTUALLY AWAITING AN INVOICE FROM HOPEWELL FOR MAY AND JUNE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED YET.

WE DIDN'T GET OUR MARCH APRIL BILL UNTIL AUGUST.

SO WE ARE IMPATIENTLY AWAITING THAT FINAL INVOICE FROM HOPEWELL.

WE HAD BEEN REPORTING TO YOU THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT OUR WATER AND SEWER OPERATING REVENUES WERE NOT COMING IN AS WE HAD FORECASTED IN THE UTILITIES BUDGET AND SHOULDN'T COME AS A SHOCK TO YOU THAT WE WERE A LITTLE BIT BELOW IN THOSE AREAS.

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THE UTILITY DOES HAVE CASH RESERVES AND OVERALL, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NON OPERATING, WE ARE RUNNING AN INCOME OR POSITIVE FOR THE YEAR.

WE'VE NOT YET CALCULATED AND APPLIED DEPRECIATION, WHICH IS NOT A BUDGETED EXPENSE, BUT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ARE UNDERWAY.

MR. HALTOM AND I HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW TO GO THROUGH HIS ASSETS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, OF COURSE, OUR RADIO PROJECT, WE DID PAY THE FINAL INVOICE TO L3 HARRIS AND WE MAY BE BRINGING YOU ONE MORE REQUEST TO USE THOSE BOND PROCEEDS TO BUY A PIECE OF SOFTWARE FOR THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, PROBABLY AT YOUR 2ND OCTOBER MEETING.

BUT AFTER THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO HOLD ON TO THE REMAINING OF THOSE BOND PROCEEDS TO PAY FOR A YEAR OF THAT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEE, WHICH IS IN THE $565,000 RANGE.

JUST TO MENTION, THE GARAGE RENOVATION PROJECT IS PRETTY WELL WRAPPED UP.

WE DO OWE AN AMOUNT FOR SERVICES RELATED TO THE GENERATOR AND RETAINAGE ON THAT PROJECT, BUT THAT PROJECT IS IN THE WRAP UP PHASE.

THE WE WILL BE BRINGING YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING.

SOME REQUESTS FOR THE BOND PROCEEDS ORIGINALLY BORROWED TO CONSTRUCT A NEW JEFFERSON PARK FIRE STATION, BUT THAT WILL BE AT A FUTURE MEETING.

CIRCUIT COURT RENOVATIONS ARE UNDERWAY.

WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THOSE RENOVATIONS WILL MOVE ALONG QUICKLY.

THINGS SEEM TO BE MOVING ALONG FAIRLY WELL.

AND JUST TO MENTION THE FUEL FOCUS SOFTWARE, THAT PROJECT IS UNDERWAY AS WELL.

THE IMPLEMENTATION HAS STARTED AND MR. TALMAGE, I'M SURE WILL BE BEFORE THE BOARD AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE PROVIDING AN UPDATE.

A SCHOOL CAPITAL PROJECTS IN COMMUNICATION.

I KNOW THE MIDDLE ROAD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROJECT IS COMPLETE.

OBVIOUSLY OUR STUDENTS ARE ATTENDING THAT.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME PUNCH LIST ITEMS AND SOME RETAINAGE YET TO PAY ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL.

THE MOST RECENT ITEM ON HERE WAS WHAT THE BOARD APPROVED AT YOUR DURING YOUR SEPTEMBER BOARD, ONE OF YOUR SEPTEMBER BOARD MEETINGS RELATED TO THE STATE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS.

THAT'S THE ONE AT THE BOTTOM.

OUR TOURISM FUND.

WE ENDED IT LOOKS LIKE WE ENDED THE YEAR AT A NEGATIVE.

HOWEVER, THAT IS BECAUSE OF PLANNED USE OF FUND BALANCE OF $778,000.

JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE BOARD DID CONTRIBUTE TO THE HERITAGE CENTER FOR FIRE AND EMS MUSEUM.

WE ALSO APPROPRIATED SOME TOURISM FUND FUND BALANCE FOR A PICKLEBALL COURT RENOVATION, AND THEN WE TRANSFERRED 311,000 FOR THE VDOT PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AT SCOTT PARK.

SO AGAIN, OUR REVENUES ARE UP ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE BUDGETED 1.4 MILLION MEALS TAX.

WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED NEARLY 1.8, ABOUT 100,000 MORE THAN WE COLLECTED LAST YEAR.

AND WE ARE SHOWING A FAVORABLE REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES OF ABOUT $790,000.

SO THAT TAX COLLECTION WAS QUITE HEALTHY FOR THE YEAR.

RCJA, WE DID END THE YEAR WITH REVENUES SLIGHTLY UNDER EXPENDITURES WHICH WAS PLANNED.

WE HAD PLANNED ON USING 90,000 IN FUND BALANCE FROM SOME FUND BALANCE THAT HAD AMASSED OVER THE YEARS DUE TO STAFFING VACANCIES.

WE PLANNED ON USING 90, WE ACTUALLY USED 76.

SO SO THAT FUND OPERATED AS EXPECTED.

PROFFER REVENUES.

WE COLLECTED A LITTLE OVER $28,000 DURING THE YEAR, WHICH BRINGS OUR PROFFER BALANCE UP TO ABOUT $149,000.

REDFLEX. OUR COLLECTIONS WERE THE LOWEST THEY'VE BEEN SINCE THE PROGRAM, SINCE WE'VE BEEN MEASURING THE PROGRAM.

2,165.

MS. DREWRY. YES.

SORRY. WHAT'S IT COST TO MANAGE THAT PROGRAM A YEAR? WE'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING TO MANAGE IT.

NO, SIR. THERE IS NO DIRECT PAYMENT TO THAT VENDOR.

OKAY. IT'S ALL FUNDED OUT OF THIS.

YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

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HEALTH INSURANCE FUND.

THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND FUND BALANCE AT JUNE 30TH WAS 1.84 MILLION, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT IT WAS IN JUNE 30TH OF 2022.

IN FY 23, OUR PREMIUMS COLLECTED DID EXCEED CLAIMS PAID OUT BY ABOUT $37,000.

THE SCHOOL'S ACTIVITY NETTED TO ABOUT $63 A DEFICIT FOR THE YEAR, AND THEY DID APPLY $386,000 OF THEIR FY 22 CARRYOVER TO BEGIN MAKING THE CUMULATIVE SCHOOL DEFICIT WHOLE.

AT SEPTEMBER 15TH THE SCHOOL DEFICIT WAS JUST OVER $113,000, AND OUR PREMIUMS TO CLAIMS WERE $37,000 TO THE GOOD.

THE JUNE 30TH FUND BALANCE IS SHOWN AT THE BOTTOM SCHOOL COUNTY SPLIT.

SO JUST LOOKING AHEAD.

YEAR END JOURNAL ENTRIES, OF COURSE, ARE STILL UNDERWAY.

OUR REVENUE ACCRUALS ARE STILL BEING VALIDATED.

BUT JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER COLLECTIONS HAVE BEEN POSTED BACK TO 2023, ABOUT $4.7 MILLION WORTH.

THERE ARE POSSIBLE EXPENDITURE ADJUSTMENTS AND ADJUST ADDITIONAL INVOICES COMING IN.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A WORKERS COMP AUDIT TODAY AND THE RESULTS OF THAT ARE PENDING.

OUR FINAL AUDIT IS SCHEDULED FOR THE WEEK OF HALLOWEEN, OCTOBER 30TH, AND WE DO HOPE TO GET OUR AUDITED AUDIT REPORT DONE BY NOVEMBER 30TH. AND WE'LL BE PROVIDED TO YOU AT THE DECEMBER BOARD MEETING.

STATUTORILY, WE NOW HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 15TH, BUT WE ALWAYS SHOOT FOR NOVEMBER 30TH OR AS CLOSE TO THAT AS WE CAN GET.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR REVENUE COLLECTIONS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, OF COURSE, AND SPENDING WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU AT PROBABLY YOUR 2ND OCTOBER MEETING THE DETAILS OF THE SEPTEMBER GENERAL ASSEMBLY SPECIAL SESSION.

ANY AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO THIS CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

WE ARE HOPING TO GET SOME DETAILED INFORMATION FROM THE COMP BOARD ON MONDAY.

I WILL BE IN A WEEK LONG TRAINING NEXT WEEK ALONG WITH MISS HURT, SO WE MAY NOT GET TO SIFT THROUGH THOSE DETAILS UNTIL THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

AND WE ALSO NEED TO GET INFORMATION FROM DCJ FOR RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY AND ANY ADDITIONAL POLICE MONIES THAT MIGHT BE ON TAP HOUSE BILL 599 SPECIFICALLY, AND NEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH MISS JUDGE ON HER STATE INCREASES ONCE THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES MAKES THOSE AVAILABLE.

AND OF COURSE, WE ARE GEARING UP FOR FY 25 BUDGET.

SO WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW FINANCIALLY, WRAPPING UP ONE YEAR AND PREPARING FOR MONITORING THE CURRENT YEAR AND PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT.

I'M GOOD. GOOD REPORT.

THANK YOU. LOOKS LIKE WE WERE VERY POSITIVE.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

MR. BROWN, ANY COMMENTS, SIR? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. DREWRY.

YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME.

MS. DREWRY? YES.

STRATEGIC PLAN, MA'AM.

YES, SIR. SO ABSENT A SECOND DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I'M ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ANNUAL REPORT OR AN UPDATE ON OUR ANNUAL STRATEGIC ANNUAL PRIORITIES.

AS YOU KNOW, THE BOARD ADOPTED A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN IN SEPTEMBER.

AND THERE ARE FOUR MAIN PRIORITIES INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LAND USE, AND DEVELOPMENT, AND GOOD GOVERNANCE.

WE ALSO ADOPTED A VISION STATEMENT BEING A WELCOMING COMMUNITY, EMBRACING OUR RURAL CHARACTER AND FOCUSING ON OUR PROSPEROUS FUTURE.

SO THIS IS DIFFICULT TO READ, BUT YOU DO HAVE A HANDOUT IN YOUR PACKET.

I'M NOT GOING TO REREAD THEM ALL TO YOU.

I'LL JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.

SO THESE INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS RELATE TO PROVIDING WATER AND WASTEWATER TO NEW AND EXISTING BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS.

MR. HALTOM IS IN THE MIDST OF HAVING A UTILITIES MASTER PLAN UPDATE AND THIS DOCUMENT INDICATES THAT IT WILL BE COMPLETED BY JANUARY.

HOWEVER, MR. HALTOM DID LET US KNOW THAT THAT DATE IS TARGETED NOW FOR APRIL OF 2024 RATHER THAN JANUARY.

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ALSO WITH A STRATEGIC GOAL, 1.4, THAT ROUTE 156 TANK AND BOOSTER PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT IS COMPLETE. SO SO YOU CAN READ WHAT OUR PROGRESS IS ON THOSE, WHAT THE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED ARE.

MR. HALTOM IS WELCOME TO CHIME IN WITH ANY COMMENTS HE MAY HAVE.

BUT AGAIN, THESE WERE THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

THE NEXT ITEMS RELATE TO HIGH SPEED INTERNET.

I KNOW MR. JABRI HAS BEEN WORKING HARD AND WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU AT A FUTURE MEETING OUR AUTHORITY TO APPLY FOR A VATI GRANT THROUGH INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY.

I KNOW THAT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PRINCE GEORGE CO-OP HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU RECENTLY AND HAS PRESENTED INFORMATION ON THE CHALLENGES OF HOW CERTAIN HOUSEHOLDS ARE IDENTIFIED AS HAVING ACCESS TO HIGH SPEED INTERNET, EVEN THOUGH THOSE THAT ACCESS COULD COST THEM $50,000.

SO THOSE CHALLENGES REMAIN ONGOING.

MR. JABRI, OF COURSE, AGAIN, WILL BE BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT APPLYING FOR A VATI GRANT.

WE HAVE BUDGETED THE LOCAL MATCH IN OUR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

THEN WE ALSO HAD A COUPLE OF GOALS RELATED TO TRASH DISPOSAL.

I KNOW WE WERE WORKING ON A SECOND CONVENIENCE STATION AND THAT WORK WAS CURTAILED BY THE BOARD BECAUSE OF EXORBITANT COST ESTIMATES FOR THAT PROJECT COMPLETION. ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE DONE JUST SOME PRELIMINARY RESEARCH ON A NO COST TRASH SOLUTIONS AND TALKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN DINWIDDIE COUNTY TO PUT IN PLACE WHAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.

IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF TO $2 MILLION INVESTMENT TO DO THE NUMBER OF SITES THEY HAVE, BOTH SMALL AND LARGE, JUST BASIC.

AND THEN THEY ALSO PAY A NUMBER OF PART TIME STAFF TO MAN THOSE SITES.

SO NO RESOURCES HAVE BEEN BUDGETED IN THIS CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

BUT BUT THAT IS A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROSPERITY.

THESE STRATEGIC GOALS RELATE TO PREPARATION OR DOING AN EXIT 45 INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

A NEW WELL IS PLANNED AT EXIT 45.

AND I KNOW THAT MR. HALTOM IS BRINGING A I BELIEVE WE'VE PUT THAT OUT TO BID.

THE BIDS CAME IN HIGH AND WE ARE SEARCHING FOR ALTERNATE SOLUTION.

GROCERY STORE AND SIT DOWN RESTAURANT IS A LONG TERM GOAL BY 2026.

I KNOW THAT A PRO FORMA HAS BEEN DONE AND RETAIL STRATEGIES OUTREACH HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY SHORT TERM AVAILABLE AT THE PRINCE GEORGE INDUSTRIAL SITE.

TWO OF FOUR PROJECTS AS OUTLINED IN THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS RECAP, OUR SHORT TERM SOLUTION FOR THAT.

THEN THERE ARE TIERED OR STAGGERED GOALS OF ADDING BUSINESSES TO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA.

LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT.

OF COURSE, WE DID HIRE A FULL TIME PLANNING DIRECTOR.

THAT WAS PART OF YOUR ADOPTED FY 24 BUDGET.

AND MR. BALDWIN WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU A REQUEST TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO THE BERKELEY GROUP TO COMPLETE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND LAND USE ORDINANCE.

AGAIN, THE TARGETED DATE IN THIS DOCUMENT WAS UNREALISTIC BASED ON THE SCOPE AND THE MAGNITUDE OF THE UPDATES, AND THAT FINAL PLAN, AS HE INDICATED, WOULD BE TARGETED CLOSER TO JUNE 30TH OF 2025.

THEN OUR FINAL AREA IS GOOD GOVERNANCE.

SO WE DID DO A PHASE ONE OF AN ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW AND STAFFING LEVEL STUDY.

WE COMPLETED THAT IN FEBRUARY OF 2023, AND A NUMBER OF NEW POSITIONS WERE ADDED TO THE 24 BUDGET AS A RESULT OF THAT STUDY.

HOWEVER, THE BOARD DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

I THINK THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR IMPLEMENT AS MUCH OF THE PHASE ONE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO COMPLETING PHASE

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TWO. SO STRATEGIC GOAL 4.16 WAS TO HIRE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER.

AS YOU KNOW, THAT POSITION WAS ADDED AND IS NOW ACTIVE AND PROVIDING CONSISTENT MESSAGING FOR THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

THE 4.17 24 HOUR RESPONSE TO CITIZENS.

THE NEW PIO DOES FIELD MANY CITIZEN CALLS AND HAS PUT A CONTACT US BUTTON ON OUR WEB PAGE, AND WE ARE WORKING ON STREAMLINING THE CITIZEN RESPONSE.

4.18 IS TO BECOME A CUSTOMER FOCUSED AND PERFORMANCE DRIVEN ORGANIZATION.

THE BOARD DID RECENTLY APPROVE AN AWARD OF CONTRACT TO DO PHASE ONE OF DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLANS.

MR. STOKE AND I ACTUALLY HAD AN IMPLEMENTATION MEETING WITH MANAGING RESULTS TODAY, AND THAT WORK WILL BEGIN IN OCTOBER WITH OUR THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE EARMARKED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH ARE HUMAN RESOURCES, PARKS AND RECREATION AND FIRE AND EMS. SO THAT IS MY BRIEF UPDATE OF OUR ANNUAL STRATEGIC GOALS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH WHERE WE ARE ON THE COMPLETION OF THOSE GOALS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM MY FRIENDS.

THANK YOU. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MS. DREWRY. I'M GOOD.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS ALWAYS, MR. BROWN. I'M GOOD, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. LOOKS LIKE YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB THERE, MS. DREWRY WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE.

I THANK YOU. I WE HAD A LOT OF HELP.

I DO NEED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO JACKIE LIPFORD, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER.

WE HAD A VERY UGLY DOCUMENT WITH WORDS IN IT THAT SHE TURNED INTO A BEAUTIFUL BROCHURE AND AND TURNED THIS POWERPOINT.

SO SHE DID A GREAT JOB OF TAKING THAT INFORMATION AND MAKING IT A LOT EASIER TO LOOK AT.

SHE DOES DO A GOOD JOB.

SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB.

YES, SIR. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, SHE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

YES, CORRECT. [LAUGHTER] YOU ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU. SURE.

YEAH, I THINK I'M UP AGAIN.

OKAY, MISS DREWRY, WHILE YOU'RE THERE? YEAH, WHILE I'M HERE.

WE'RE MOVING. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY POSTPONED ITEMS, SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO A1, MA'AM?

[ORDER OF BUSINESS ]

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

THE NEXT ITEM IS A SCHOOL REQUEST TO APPROPRIATE $59,746 OF SCHOOL NUTRITION FUND BALANCE TO THE FY 23 BUDGET.

THE SCHOOL DIVISION TOOK THIS ITEM TO THEIR SCHOOL BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND IS ASKING FOR AN OFFICIAL APPROPRIATION TO MAKE THAT FY 23 BUDGET MATCH OR EXCEED WHAT WAS ACTUALLY EXPENDED IN FY 23.

FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL FINANCE DIRECTOR AND LISTENING TO THEIR MEETING ON SWAGIT BONUSES THAT WERE PROVIDED TO ALL SCHOOL EMPLOYEES DURING FY 23, WHICH WERE NOT BUDGETED AND CAUSE THAT FUND TO SPEND MORE THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED. SO THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE THAT FUND WHOLE, TO APPROPRIATE THE SCHOOL NUTRITION FUND FUND BALANCE TO MAKE THAT WHOLE AND THE FUND BALANCE IS ADEQUATE FOR THAT APPROPRIATION. OKAY.

QUESTIONS FOR MS. DREWRY ON THAT.

I THOUGHT I READ IT. GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, MR. BROWN. NO, GO AHEAD.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND I WANT TO START BY SAYING MY QUESTION THAT I'M GETTING READY TO ASK IS BY NO MEANS ANYTHING AGAINST ANY TEACHERS AT ALL.

BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT FUND MONIES CAN BE USED FROM THAT FUND TO OFFSET BONUSES AND STUFF FOR THE NUTRITIONAL WORKERS.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR WHAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THAT FUND, WAS THAT BEYOND THOSE WORKERS, WAS IT ALSO FOR SCHOOL TEACHERS? BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT SCHOOL TEACHERS DESERVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY GET AND MORE, BUT I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN FUNDS ARE BEING PULLED FROM VARIOUS CATEGORIES, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING USED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TEACHERS.

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BUT IF IT'S THE NUTRITIONAL FUND AND THE WAY IT READS IS THAT IT'S FOR THE NUTRITIONAL WORKERS AND STUDENTS THAT ARE PART OF THAT.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

YES, SIR. AND I'M GETTING INDICATION FROM DR.

PENNYCUFF AND MISS BARNES THAT IT WAS STRICTLY FOR SCHOOL NUTRITION WORKERS, THOSE CAFETERIA WORKERS WITHIN THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL NUTRITION WORKERS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD OFFICE THAT DEAL WITH THAT.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I'M SATISFIED.

OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GOOD. THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS THE SAME QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THERE'S A RESOLUTION PROVIDED TO MAKE THAT CAFETERIA NUTRITION FUND WHOLE AGAIN. SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. MISS WAYMACK.

MR. BROWN AND MISS WAYMACK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MRS. WAYMACK? YES.

MR. BROWN.

YES, MR. WEBB. YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. DREWRY. A2 IS RESOLUTION TO REVISION OF THE PERSONNEL POLICY, AND I THINK THAT'S MRS. HURT.

GOOD EVENING. SO I'M COMING BEFORE YOU WITH A PROPOSED REVISION TO THE COUNTY'S PERSONNEL POLICY, SECTION 19 ENTITLED OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT. DURING RECENT DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THERE IS REALLY NO WAY THAT THE COUNTY CAN MANAGE OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT AND SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT AND THE BURDEN TO APPROVE IT HAS BEEN LYING ON OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH WE JUST ABSOLUTELY DON'T FEEL THAT IS SHOULD BE THE CASE.

SO WE HAVE REVISED OUR POLICY TO CLARIFY THAT THE EMPLOYEE TO THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK CANNOT BE PERFORMED DURING THEIR WORK HOURS AND SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT SHOULD NOT CREATE CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR INTERFERE WITH THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOB FOR THE COUNTY.

EMPLOYEES ARE EXPECTED TO PERFORM ALL FUNCTIONS OF THEIR POSITIONS AND THAT DOES INCLUDE ON CALL CALL OUT SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS PARKS AND RECREATION, WHO MAY NEED TO DO FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES IN THE EVENING OR CHANGE GAMES, WHATEVER THEIR PRIMARY DUTIES ARE FOR THEIR POSITION.

THAT ALSO DOES INCLUDE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS THAT MAY ARISE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

SO WE DO FOLLOW THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT, AND OUR CODE OF ETHICS POLICY ALSO CLARIFIES A LOT OF WHAT'S IN THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT.

BUT WE DID ADD SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE INTO THIS POLICY AS WELL, JUST TO REITERATE.

SO I DID INCLUDE THE RED LINE VERSION OF IT AND A CLEAN COPY OF THOSE CHANGES FOR THE BOARD'S REVIEW.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR CUT THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PRIMARY JOB OF PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.

IF YOU'RE WORKING PART TIME SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, YOU NEED TO GET YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COUNTY, CORRECT? AND IT WON'T IN ANY WAY PUT AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

IT'S VERY HARD TO MANAGE.

RIGHT. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION.

MR. BROWN ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS FOR ME, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT IN MIND, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

SO MOVED. HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK? YES.

NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT AN APPROPRIATION OF $250,000 VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DRINKING WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND FOR LEAD SERVICING [INAUDIBLE].

MR. HALTOM. YES.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND I'M GLAD TO FINALLY COME UP HERE WITH SOME GOOD NEWS.

AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.

I ATTACHED THE WRONG IA FORM TO THE INFORMATION I SENT MISS KNOTT TO INCLUDE IN YOUR PACKET.

SO BEFORE THE MEETING WE UPDATED THAT IA WHICH PRIMARILY SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE.

THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS SHOWING THE APPROPRIATION INFORMATION.

BUT FIRST, I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUST REAL QUICK.

OBVIOUSLY, BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE RECEIVED BOARD'S AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR FUNDING FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH'S DRINKING WATER REVOLVING FUND LOAN REVOLVING FUND.

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AND WE APPLIED TO USE THAT FUNDING FOR THE LEAD SERVICE LINE SURVEY.

OUR INVENTORY AND REPLACEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS A NEW EPA MANDATE THAT MUST BE COMPLETED BY OCTOBER OF 2024.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE DID RECEIVE AN INITIAL FUNDING OFFER LETTER FROM VDH IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000, AND WE'LL BE ABLE NOW TO HIRE THE NECESSARY CONSULTANTS TO PERFORM NOT ONLY THE FIELD WORK, BUT ALSO THE TASK OF PUTTING TOGETHER AN INVENTORY AND A PLAN TO REPLACE ANY LEAD SERVICE LINES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.

SO WE'RE EXTREMELY HAPPY AND WE HOPE THAT THE BOARD WILL BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS AWARD AND APPROPRIATE THE APPROPRIATE FUNDS AS SHOWN IN THE RESOLUTION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING IT.

QUESTIONS FOR MR. HALTOM.

NO.

HEARING NO QUESTIONS.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU, MR. HALTOM.

SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN.

THE SECOND. I SECOND.

AND A SECOND FROM MS. WAYMACK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HALTOM. THANK YOU. IF I MAY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MISS RACHEL LUMPKIN.

SHE DID THE HEAVY LIFTING FOR THIS APPLICATION AND WORKED WITH VDH VERY CLOSELY TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD A VERY STRONG APPLICATION.

SO I WANT TO GIVE HER A LOT OF CREDIT.

WELL, THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.

AFFIRMING COMMITMENT TO FUND LOCALLY SHARE OF JEFFERSON PARK ROAD MIDDLE ROAD.

WE'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS, I REALIZE.

SO, MR. BALDWIN. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN.

I'LL BE BRIEF SINCE YOU WERE FULLY BRIEFED AT YOUR MEETING ON THE 12TH OF SEPTEMBER BY MR. STOKE. AS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE TIME, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK TO TRY TO CLOSE THE FUNDING GAP FOR THE MIDDLE ROAD JEFFERSON PARK ROAD ROUNDABOUT PROJECT.

AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT YOUR LAST MEETING WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR GETTING REVENUE SHARING FUNDS OR AT LEAST SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TO TRY TO COMPETE FOR REVENUE SHARING FUNDS.

WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS REALLY THE AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THAT PROCESS AND THE COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO FUND ITS SHARE OF THE REVENUE SHARING AMOUNT, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ASSUMING WE'LL HAVE GOOD LUCK WITH THIS.

OUR STP FUNDS FROM THE MPO THAT MR. STOKE HAD MENTIONED LEAVES THE PROJECT A LITTLE OVER $1.9 MILLION SHORT.

SO THIS IS, I BELIEVE, $960,000 ROUNDABOUT FOR THE REVENUE SHARING PIECE FOR EACH SIDE AT 50 50.

YEAH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION FROM VDOT, MR. STOKE AND YOURSELF NOW.

SO I THINK IS THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? JUST COMING UP TO VOTE OUR NEXT MEETING.

AT THE MPO. YEAH.

YEAH. OCTOBER 12TH.

YEAH. YEAH.

OF COURSE. MR. WEBB IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE AT THE MPO.

SO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO PASS.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND TO PASS THE RESOLUTION.

ANY QUESTIONS, MR. BROWN? NO, SIR.

HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. BROWN. YES.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT, ONE YEAR SERVICE TO PREPARE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND USE ORDINANCE. AND I THINK.

MR. BALDWIN, YOU'RE ON THE LINE AGAIN, SIR.

ONE MORE TIME. SO, AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH YOU.

THIS PROJECT, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE THE BOARD INCLUDED FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR OF $115,000 FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.

AS WE DISCUSSED, THIS PROPOSED CONTRACT WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP IS A TWO YEAR PROCESS.

SO IN THIS CONTRACT WHAT WE WERE DOING IS STARTING AT LEAST GETTING THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT APPROVED WITH THE FIRST YEAR FUNDING AVAILABLE AND WITH THE REQUIREMENT TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD DURING YOUR FY 25 BUDGET FOR THE REMAINING AMOUNT.

WE'RE ASSUMING, BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE BERKELEY GROUP, WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK OF SPENDING ABOUT $80,000 ON THE PROJECT THIS YEAR.

THERE'S 115 THAT HAVE BEEN BEEN ALLOCATED DEPENDING OF ANY ADD ONS ARE DONE TO THE PROJECT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR.

THAT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT, BUT CERTAINLY NOTHING THAT WOULD BE GREATER THAN THE $115,000 THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION, NOT TO EXCEED A CONTRACT, NOT TO EXCEED $80,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR,

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115 TOTAL.

I'LL MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

MOTION AN A SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MR. HUNTER? YES.

MRS. WAYMACK? YES, MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

A6 IS A RESOLUTION APPROPRIATE $72,886.

IT'S $44,973 INCREASE OVER FOR 2024.

MRS. DREWRY. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

CHIEF EARLEY AND I WORKED ON THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS TWOFOLD.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD A POLICE VEHICLE WHICH WAS TOTALED BY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS FLEEING ANOTHER JURISDICTION, HIT OUR POLICE VEHICLE HEAD ON.

SO WE WILL BE GETTING SOME INSURANCE PROCEEDS FROM THAT FROM OUR INSURANCE COMPANY AS A RESULT OF THAT PARTICULAR CLAIM.

THOSE INSURANCE PROCEEDS ARE NOT ENOUGH TO REPLACE THAT VEHICLE WITH A NEW VEHICLE.

IN AUGUST, WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES OF OUR FY 24 HOUSE BILL 599 POLICE REVENUES.

THAT REVENUE ESTIMATE WAS $44,973 MORE THAN WHAT WE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED FY 24 BUDGET.

WE DIDN'T INTEND TO BRING THAT APPROPRIATION REQUEST TO YOU UNTIL WE BROUGHT THE OTHER GENERAL ASSEMBLY SPECIAL SESSION ACTIONS.

BUT BECAUSE THE VEHICLE WAS TOTALED AND WE HAVE THAT NUMBER FROM AUGUST, WE ARE ADDING THOSE TWO AMOUNTS TOGETHER.

THE INSURANCE PROCEEDS AND THE AMOUNT OF HOUSE BILL 599 MONEY THAT WE WILL COLLECT THIS YEAR THAT IS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR.

SO WE ARE ASKING THAT THOSE AMOUNTS BE APPROPRIATED.

THEY TOTALED TOGETHER $72,886.

WE WOULD LIKE TO USE $42,752 FOR A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE FOR THE VEHICLE THAT WAS TOTALED.

AND CHIEF EARLEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE REMAINING $30,134 AND PLACE IT TOWARDS PART TIME WAGES WITHIN HIS BUDGET.

AND TO ADDRESS HIS ONGOING STAFFING CHALLENGES.

WITH THAT IN MIND, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DREWRY TO EXPLAIN IT FURTHER? JUST MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE ON THOSE PART TIME WAGES.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, OVERTIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT CHANGING BASE SALARIES, CORRECT? NO, SIR. IT'S PROBABLY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PART TIME HOURS SOME OF HIS EXISTING PERSONNEL ARE WORKING.

OKAY. I ONLY ASK BECAUSE IF IT WAS CHANGING BASE SALARIES, THEN IT'S CHANGING OUR BASELINE.

NO, SIR, IT'S NOT A PERMANENT CHANGE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS A RESOLUTION [INAUDIBLE].

SO MOVED. I SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND.

IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS THEN CALL THE ROLL.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. BROWN.

YES. MRS. WAYMACK. YES.

A7 IS A RESOLUTION PROPOSED REVISION TO PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY.

MS. DREWRY. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU A REQUEST TO AMEND OUR PROCUREMENT POLICY TO ALLOW US SOME FLEXIBILITY IN PURCHASING USED VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.

AS YOU KNOW, THE VEHICLE MARKET IS UPSIDE DOWN RIGHT NOW.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THAT, STARTING WITH COVID.

THE VEHICLE INVENTORY, THE VEHICLE VALUES ARE THROUGH THE ROOF.

USED VEHICLE VALUES ARE HIGHER THAN THEY HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN.

COUPLE THAT WITH THE AUTO WORKER STRIKE THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US.

RIGHT NOW, OUR ONLY VIABLE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE VEHICLES IS USING THE STATE CONTRACT.

AND THOSE STATE CONTRACT VENDORS ARE LIMITED TO OFFERING US VEHICLES THAT ARE NO OLDER THAN TWO MODEL YEARS OLD AND DON'T HAVE MORE THAN $30,000 MILES ON THEM.

SO THOSE VEHICLE PRICES ARE STILL HIGH, HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE BUILT INTO OUR BUDGET NECESSARILY TO BUY USED VEHICLES.

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AND THE VEHICLE THAT MEETS OUR NEEDS COULD BE A LITTLE OLDER, IT COULD BE HAVE A FEW MORE MILES ON IT THAN WHAT WE CAN BUY FROM STATE CONTRACT.

WE ALSO CANNOT GET AN APPLES TO APPLES BID IF WE GO OUT TO BID TO BUY A USED VEHICLE.

TWO 2020, FORD EXPLORERS CAN HAVE VASTLY DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF MILES ON THEM.

SO OF COURSE, THE PRICE IS DIFFERENT.

SO WE ARE ASKING THIS EVENING THAT YOU ALLOW US TO MODIFY OUR PROCUREMENT POLICY AND ADD AN ENTIRE NEW SECTION, WHICH, OF COURSE, MISS ERARD HELPED MICHELLE JACKSON, OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICER, AND MYSELF WRITE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PURCHASE USED VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT FOR UP TO 200,000 MILES.

$200,000 WITHOUT A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT.

THAT IS THE STATE THRESHOLD FOR SMALL PURCHASING LIMIT.

SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT COULD HELP US BUY MORE AFFORDABLE USED VEHICLES AND ALSO AFFORDABLE USED EQUIPMENT FOR THE GARAGE FOR UTILITIES WHEN USED EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES ARE MORE AFFORDABLE AND PRACTICAL.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AND I'M SURE MS. ERARD IS AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR.

I GOT ONE. YES, SIR.

MR.. I'M OKAY WITH THE PROCESS.

IS SOMEBODY LIKE MR. TALMAGE OR SOMEBODY GOING TO BE INVOLVED AS FAR AS MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING A GOOD DEAL? YES, SIR. WE ALWAYS CONSULT MR. TALMAGE WHEN WE ARE PURCHASING A VEHICLE OF ANY KIND.

AS FAR AS THE SPECIFICATIONS GO, THE MAKE AND MODEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GARAGE IS EQUIPPED TO WORK ON THAT VEHICLE AND DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ON THAT VEHICLE.

SO, YES, SIR, HE IS INVOLVED IN THOSE DECISIONS.

OKAY. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FURTHER COMPLICATIONS IS THAT IN THE VEHICLE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE NOW, WE ONLY WANT TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE THAT OUR GARAGE CAN SERVICE.

RIGHT? RIGHT. SO IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR US TO FIND WHAT WE WANT.

RIGHT. BUT HE'S WITH A USED VEHICLE HE'S GOT THE EXPERTISE TO SPOT THINGS AND CHECK THINGS OUT.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS.

NOT A QUESTION. JUST A COMMENT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS A RESOLUTION.

SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL.

MR. WEBB? YES.

MR. BROWN? YES. MRS. WAYMACK? YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

NOW, WE HAVE ADDED A8, WHICH WAS THE DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER.

AND THANK YOU FOR WAITING.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD EVENING.

SO I DID PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO YOU EARLIER DURING YOUR WORK SESSION ON THE POSITION CONTROL CHART CHANGE THAT'S REQUESTED THAT WOULD CHANGE OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPUTY DIRECTOR TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CODE COMPLIANCE AND THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD BECOME THE SOLE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR RATHER THAN THAT TWOFOLD, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD PROMOTE THE CURRENT INTERIM CHARLES HARRISON TO THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND HE WOULD RETAIN HIS TITLE OF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

THEN WE WOULD BEGIN THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH WOULD BE POSTED AGAIN EXTERNALLY.

THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET FOR THE CHANGE AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A BUDGET TRANSFER FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $234,632. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IN THE RESOLUTION IT COVERS BOTH THE TRANSFER AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THESE TWO THINGS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

ALL RIGHT. SO 1 RESOLUTION WILL COVER ALL OF WHAT YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT.

QUESTIONS FOR MISS HURT.

I'M GOOD. IT WAS.

I'M GOOD. GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT IN MIND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THAT RESOLUTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION, AND A SECOND.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

MR. BROWN? YES. MRS. WAYMACK? YES.

MR. HUNTER. YES.

MR. WEBB. YES.

OKAY. THAT COMPLETES OUR DOCKET FOR TONIGHT, I THINK OUR NEXT MEETING IS THE 10TH.

OCTOBER 10TH AT 5:00 AT THIS TIME.

SO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE 10TH.

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I MOVE THAT, WE ADJOURN? YES, MA'AM. I'LL SECOND.

I'LL SECOND. OKAY.

A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL.

MRS. WAYMACK.

YES. MR. HUNTER? YES. MR. WEBB.

YES. MR. BROWN. YES.

MEETING ADJOURNED. 8:07.

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