Aug 08, 2023 Regular Meeting

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IT'S 6:00 ON THE 8TH OF AUGUST, AND I'M GOING TO CALL THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING FOR THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

THIS GOES DIRECTLY INTO OUR WORK SESSION.

[WORK SESSION]

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN HUNTER.

FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, MS. ERARD AND MR. STOKE, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH ME TO DISCUSS A SECURITY SYSTEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW AGENCIES THAT DO NOT HAVE A CAMERA SYSTEM IN THEIR BUILDING.

AS YOU KNOW, THE JOB THAT WE PERFORM CAN BE A BIT LIFE ALTERING FOR THE CLIENTS THAT WE SERVE, AND OFTENTIMES THEY ARE NOT VERY HAPPY WITH US.

RECENTLY, THOUGH, I'VE NOTICED THAT THE THREAT LEVEL HAS INCREASED FROM WHAT IT HAS NORMALLY BEEN IN THE PAST.

AND SO ORDINARILY I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR FUNDS TO COVER THE COST OF A CAMERA OUT OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

BUT WITH THE TIMING OF THE MOST RECENT THREAT, THE PURCHASE ORDER DEADLINE HAD PASSED.

AND SO THEREFORE, HERE I AM STANDING BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR A, I'M ASKING FOR FUNDS TO BE RE APPROPRIATED.

SO THE COST OF THE SYSTEM IS $25,000.

$612. THERE IS A LOCAL MATCH, WHICH IS $3,969 IS WHAT THE COUNTY WOULD PAY, CREATING A REVENUE OF $21,624.14.

SO THE ASK IS THAT FUNDS FROM LAST YEAR BE RE APPROPRIATED WELL THAT THE FUNDS BE REAPPROPRIATED OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE TO COVER THE COST OF THE SYSTEM. MY STUDENTS HAVING QUESTIONS? YES. IS MR. GOT ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHERE WE COME FROM OR DO WE NEED THAT? I GUESS I WOULD ASK MISS DREWRY TO TOUCH UPON THE FINANCES AND I WOULD ASK CLIFF, WHO IS HELPING TERESA TO TOUCH UPON THE CAMERA COMPANY ITSELF AND THE INSTALL AT DSS? WELL, TYPICALLY, AS MISS JUDGE INDICATED, TYPICALLY WE WOULD HAVE DONE A PURCHASE ORDER IN MAY.

HOWEVER, IT TOOK SOME TIME TO GET A QUOTE FROM OPTECH, THE VENDOR THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING FOR WHICH WE HAVE A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT.

WE DID NOT GET THAT QUOTE UNTIL JULY, SO THEREFORE MISS JUDGE MISSED THE PURCHASE ORDER CUT OFF DEADLINE, WHICH WAS IN MAY.

BUT AT NO FAULT TO HER, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF A PERFECT STORM.

AGAIN, THE THREAT LEVEL THAT THE DEPARTMENT EXPERIENCED WAS LATE IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

WE COULD NOT GET THE QUOTE IN TIME FOR HER TO DO THE PURCHASE ORDER.

IT WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN ON THAT PURCHASE ORDER REAPPROPRIATION LIST THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER LATER THIS EVENING.

TRUTH BE TOLD, HOWEVER, JUST THROUGH NO FAULT OF HERS BECAUSE THE VENDOR TOOK SOME TIME TO GET THAT QUOTE BACK TO US, WE ARE ASKING FOR ABOUT $4,000 OF REAPPROPRIATION.

THE STATE WILL COVER THE MAJORITY OF THE COST AND WILL BE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE WOULD BUDGET FOR FY 24.

SO SO THE PACKET BEHIND TAB TWO SHOWS YOU THE IMPACT WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR REAPPROPRIATION OF FUND BALANCE OF JUST UNDER $4,000 AND WE WOULD BE INCREASING OUR PROJECTED STATE REVENUE FROM SOCIAL SERVICES BY 21,642.

IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THE PURCHASE ORDER RE APPROPRIATION THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING FOR THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WERE OPEN AT YEAR END.

ALL RIGHT. QUESTION DONNA. YEAH, I HAVE ONE TOO.

OKAY. MR.. YES, SIR.

SINCE WE FINALIZED OUR BUDGET AND TRYING TO LIVE BY OUR OWN RULES OR WHAT WE EXPECTATIONS, WHY WOULDN'T THIS COME OUT OF CONTINGENCY? UM, WELL, WE JUST PACKAGED IT TO BE SIMILAR TO THE PURCHASE ORDER.

REAPPROPRIATIONS. IT CERTAINLY COULD COME FROM CONTINGENCY IF THAT.

IF THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE FOR ME SPEAKING, THAT'S.

THAT'S MY CHOICE.

OKAY. AND WE COULD ASK THAT YOU ADD IT TO THE AGENDA THIS EVENING OR WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO YOU ON SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, WHICHEVER IS YOUR

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ONE, WHAT KIND OF TIME LINE HAVE THEY GIVEN FOR INSTALLING? I MEAN, WE HAVE A CRITICAL NEED.

I WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO TAKE SIX MONTHS TO GET IT PUT IN SO WE DON'T HAVE A TIME LINE SPECIFICALLY ON IT YET BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO THEY TYPICALLY DON'T ORDER THE CAMERAS THEMSELVES UNTIL WE PLACE OR CONFIRM THE ORDER.

SO MOST OF OUR TIMELINE WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT THAT THAT LEAD TIME FOR THE CAMERAS IS.

BUT OPTEC IS THE COMPANY THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH IN MANY OTHER BUILDINGS HERE AT THE COUNTY, AND THEY'RE PRETTY RESPONSIVE AND PRETTY GOOD ABOUT AS SOON AS THE EQUIPMENT IS IN GETTING US ON THEIR BOOKS WITHIN 1 TO 2 WEEKS OF THE EQUIPMENT ARRIVING.

OKAY. AND WOULD THIS BE A NOT TO EXCEED ON THIS? I'M JUST ASKING.

YEAH. YEAH. THE QUOTES TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY'VE NEVER COME BACK ASKING FOR ANY MORE THAN WHAT THEY'RE QUOTES ASKED FOR.

OKAY. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE AS WELL, IF IT HASN'T BEEN STATED, THE SYSTEM THAT THAT WE BUY FROM THEM HAS NO RECURRING COSTS TO IT.

THERE'S NO LICENSING FEES.

ONCE YOU BUY THE LICENSE FOR THE CAMERA AND IT GETS INSTALLED, THAT'S IT.

ASIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE THAT MAY OCCUR IF SOMETHING GOES BAD AND YOU NEED TO CALL THEM BACK OUT.

OKAY. AND THEN, MR. DREWRY, JUST ONE QUESTION ON THE MONIES.

WOULD WE BE PAYING THE FULL 25 FIRST AND THEN GETTING REIMBURSED FROM THE STATE? YES, SIR. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT BOARD MEMBERS NO, IT'S NOT, THE FIRST OUTLAY IS THE FULL AMOUNT AND THEN WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED.

SO I WOULD THINK IT WAS JUST 4000, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S THE LOCAL IMPACT.

YES, MA'AM. UNDERSTOOD.

UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.

AND LOOKING AT THE QUOTE A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY, MR. BROWN, THE QUOTE THAT WAS PROVIDED WAS PROVIDED ON JULY 26TH.

AND THEY'VE INDICATED THAT IT'S GOOD FOR 30 DAYS.

SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU ADD IT THIS EVENING.

YEAH, IT WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO BE ADDED TODAY SO WE CAN MAKE THAT CUT OFF AND I CAN CERTAINLY AMEND THE RESOLUTION SO THAT IT COMES FROM CONTINGENCY, IF THAT'S YOUR WISH.

RATHER BALANCE.

THE ADOPTED FY 24 CONTINGENCY IS $144,146.

OKAY. SO IF WE DO THE 25 OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY, WHEN THAT MONEY'S COME BACK IN, WE WOULD JUST REIMBURSE THAT BACK INTO CONTINGENCY, RIGHT? YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE TO APPROPRIATE 3969 FROM CONTINGENCY.

WE WOULD BUDGET STATE REVENUE FOR THE REST.

OKAY. GOTCHA. YES, SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD.

I GOT ONE QUESTION I KEYED UP ON.

YOU SAID THEY NORMALLY DON'T COME BACK.

WHY DO WE NOT WHEN WE HAVE A QUOTE LIKE THIS, WHY DO WE NOT HAVE NOT TO EXCEED ON IT IF THEY'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION AND SCOPE OF THE JOB? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY ASK THEM TO PUT IN THE QUOTES.

THE QUOTES THEY GAVE US ARE JUST IT'S HOW THEY DRAW THEM UP.

IT'S WHAT THE COMPANY DRAFTED.

IT DIDN'T GO OUT FOR BID OR ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF CONSTRAINT ON IT, IT KIND OF LEAVES YOU OPEN.

SURE. NO DISRESPECT.

I DEAL WITH A LOT OF CONTRACTS AND IF YOU DON'T NAIL THEM DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE WALKED A JOB, YOU KNOW, TO SCOPE THIS IS WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS.

THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE IT.

IF THEY MISS SOMETHING THAT'S ON THEM, IT'S NOT FOR THEM TO COME BACK OH, WELL, WE MISSED THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

THEY COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WE DIDN'T PLAN FOR THIS, SO I KNOW THIS IS NEEDED.

DON'T GET ME WRONG. I'M NOT ARGUING AGAINST THE THING.

IT'S JUST I JUST I'M CONCERNED WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK MORE TOWARDS THAT GOING FORWARD WHEN WE GET ALL THESE BIDS IN SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THESE CHANGE ORDERS COME UP.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR. ABSOLUTELY.

BUT YEAH, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THEM IS THAT HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT DEFINITELY I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I'VE GOT CONTRACTORS WHO GET IN THE CAR 100%.

THEY'VE NEVER STEERED ME WRONG, BUT I STILL HAVEN'T PUT IT IN THE PAPERWORK BECAUSE I'M THE ONE RESPONSIBLE.

ALL RIGHT, MS. DREWRY, YOU SAID THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT YOU WANTED TO MAKE TO THE RESOLUTION, IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA.

YES SIR, I COULD ALTER THAT RESOLUTION IF YOU CHOOSE TO ADD IT TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

YES, SIR. WELL, I THINK IT'S A FEELING THAT WE DO NEED TO ADD..

YEAH MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M FINE WITH ADDING IT TONIGHT..

WOULD BE A6.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. TERESA.

SO DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION NOW TO ADD THAT OR JUST DO IT AT THE TIME OF THE ACCEPTING THE AGENDA? WE'LL DO IT AT THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MISS JUDGE.

NEXT, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

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GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE AND MR. ERARD.

GOOD EVENING.

WE'RE BACK. MISS TWO MEETINGS AND FORGET THE LIGHT SWITCH.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, SHOW YOU THE EXISTING CURRENT STRUCTURE IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE COMPLIANCE AS IT EXISTS ON POSITION CONTROL.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE COMPLIANCE, THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, WHICH IS CHARLES HARRISON. WE ALSO HAVE THREE SENIOR BUILDING INSPECTORS WITH TWO CURRENT VACANCIES IN THE DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE ACTIVELY INTERVIEWING FOR THAT.

WE HAVE A PLANS REVIEWER, AN ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR AND OFFICE MANAGER AND TO PERMIT TECHS IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

OUR PROPOSAL IS WITH THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF MS..

WALTON IS WHY WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS.

WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE CHARLES HARRISON SERVING AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, NOT AS DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SO WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO IS TO CONVERT THAT POSITION OF DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR INTO A SOLE COUNTY DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT WOULD FALL IN COUNTY ADMIN BUDGET.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO CONVERT THAT DEPUTY DIRECTOR POSITION/ BUILDING OFFICIAL INTO THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTE THE CURRENT INTERIM, WHICH IS CHARLES HARRISON.

NEW STRUCTURE.

JUST A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THAT IS THAT DURING THAT RECENT COMPLETION OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW THAT WAS DONE, THERE WAS AN EXPRESS NEED TO ADD TWO SOLE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR POSITIONS, ALTHOUGH THE BOARD DID NOT BUDGET FOR THAT IN THE FY 24 BUDGET.

WE ARE ASKING TO LOOK AT THAT LONG TERM NEED OF THE COUNTY WITH HER UNFORTUNATE DEATH.

SO THE BOARD APPROVED THE HIRING OF A PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR FY 24 BUDGET AND WE HIRED MR. BALDWIN. HE CAME ABOARD JULY THE 16TH AND THEN THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, WHICH IS ALSO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL CURRENTLY, CHARLES HARRISON.

THAT POSITION OF BUILDING OFFICIAL WAS APPOINTED BY THE BOARD, SO HE IS CURRENTLY SERVING AS INTERIM.

WE DO PROPOSE THAT HE PERMANENTLY BE PROMOTED INTO THE POSITION OF DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WOULD BE ELIMINATED AND HE WOULD RETAIN HIS APPOINTMENT AS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.

SO THEN AS FAR AS FUNDING GOES, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SOLELY FUNDED POSITION.

THAT MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR, MS..

WALTON, WOULD MOVE INTO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S BUDGET TO FUND THAT SOLE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

SO JUST IN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STRUCTURE AND HOW IT MIGHT HELP, MR. STOKE CURRENTLY HAS 18 DIRECT REPORTS, SOON TO BE 19 BY CREATING A DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, BASED UPON THE EXPERIENCE OF THAT DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WOULD BE ABLE TO SHIFT OVER, WHICH WOULD LEAVE LESS ON MR. STOKE BECAUSE HIS CURRENT SPAN OF CONTROL DOES LEAVE HIM WITHOUT ADEQUATE CAPACITY TO PLAN STRATEGICALLY, JUST AS YOUR PLAN HAD CALLED FOR.

SO DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THE PHYSICAL LOCATION WOULD BE IN CDCC, WHICH WOULD BE IN MS. WALTON'S OLD OFFICE AND WOULD OVERSEE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS.

SO IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE BUDGET TRANSFER FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUDGET FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS OF THE POSITION. THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL IMPACT FOR EITHER OF THESE CHANGES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

THEY DO AGAIN HAVE TWO VACANT SENIOR BUILDING INSPECTOR POSITIONS AND THE CHANGE FROM THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR TO THE DIRECTOR CAN BE ABSORBED IN THE FY 24 BUDGET. SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS THAT THE BUDGET TRANSFER WOULD BE THAT 234,632 FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE MOVED OVER TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.

SO IT WOULD HAVE A ZERO NET IMPACT ON GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

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AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.

WE HAVE THE CHANGE TO THE POSITION CONTROL CHART FOR YOUR REVIEW.

I DID PRINT OFF ENOUGH COPIES FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE DONE TONIGHT? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. YOU CAN CERTAINLY WAIT TILL SEPTEMBER.

I NEED TO PERSONALLY, I NEED TO READ THIS MORE.

AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU TODAY TO GIVE IT TO YOU IN ORDER TO SEE THE FULL IMPACT OF EVERYTHING.

I'VE GOT THE I&A PREPARED FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY ADD IT TO SEPTEMBER AGENDA.

I AGREE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TO SEPTEMBER, WE DO IT THE SECOND MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST MEETING WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND STUFF.

I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 6 OR 7 PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT NIGHT.

SO THAT WOULD BE A LONG NIGHT.

SO NOT ON THE 12TH, BUT THE SECOND MEETING ON 26TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IF WE'RE GOING TO.

OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD BE I'M OKAY WITH MOVING IT OR DELAYING IT UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER WITH THE..

WE'LL JUST INCLUDE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT NIGHT.

OKAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AT THAT TIME AFTER YOU'VE HAD TIME TO REVIEW AND STUDY IT AND, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THERE'S THINGS THAT MIGHT BE OF QUESTION.

SO.. AND THAT'S IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT WE WANT TO ADD IT.

RIGHT TO THE AGENDA..

FOR THAT NIGHT. I MEAN, IF WE DON'T AGREE IT SHOULD HAPPEN, THEN WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T.

OH, NO, I'M FINE WITH THE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.

SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT RAISES CONCERNS OR SOMETHING, WE CAN ALWAYS PULL IT.

WE GOT OVER A MONTH TO FIGURE IT OUT.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE. BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO.

I AGREE WITH THAT ROUTE, BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO MOVE IT TO THE 26.

CAN YOU EMAIL ALL THIS INFORMATION OUT.

I CAN. AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO MENTION, THOUGH, THAT IN THE INTERIM, I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE BOARD BEAR IN MIND THAT MR. HARRISON IS CURRENTLY SERVING AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHATEVER CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE, MAY IT WOULD ALTER THE POSITION.

SO IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, IF WE DO AWAY WITH HIS POSITION.

SO IT'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT, A LOT TO LOOK AT, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

I WANT TO HAVE SOME TIME TO ABSORB IT.

WELL EDUCATED QUESTIONS.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO WE WILL NOT BE ADDING THAT TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL PUT IT ON THE 26TH OF SEPTEMBER.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NOW WE HAVE A REPORT FOR THE FY 24 VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, MS. DREWRY AND MR. TALMAGE. MY FAVORITE TOPIC? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN HUNTER.

BOARD MEMBERS.

MS. ERARD AND MR. STOKE. THIS ITEM IS BEING ADDED TO YOUR WORK SESSION AS THE BOARD IS AWARE OR PROBABLY IS AWARE, YOU DID APPROVE A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO THE CIP FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $450,000 FOR VEHICLE PURCHASES IN YOUR FY 24 BUDGET.

BUT WE WANTED TO REVIEW THE PLAN WITH YOU.

SO HISTORICALLY, JUST TAKING A LOOK BACK IN FY 22 AND THE SIX YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, A ROLLING STOCK BORROWING WAS DONE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COUNTY VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS.

AND INITIALLY THE FOCUS WAS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND IN 2020, FOR THE FIRST YEAR, NON PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES WERE ADDED TO THAT ROLLING STOCK BORROWING.

JUST TO UPDATE YOU WHERE WE ARE FROM FY 23, SEVEN OF THE 11 VEHICLES THAT WE ORDERED LAST FISCAL YEAR REMAIN ON ORDER DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

FIVE OF THOSE ARE POLICE INTERCEPTORS MARKED VEHICLES.

ONE OF THOSE IS A TRUCK FOR RECREATION, AND THE LAST VEHICLE IS AN UNMARKED POLICE TRUCK.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THEY WILL ALLOW US TO ORDER ON STATE CONTRACT AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

IT IS TAKING A NUMBER OF MONTHS FOR THOSE VENDORS TO FULFILL OUR ORDERS.

MAYOR, HOW CAN WE BE HELD HOSTAGE? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT VEHICLES ON ORDER, BUT HAVING GOTTEN THEM FOR WHAT WE CAN ORDER GOING FORWARD, WELL, WE'RE NOT BEING HELD HOSTAGE, BUT THOSE VEHICLES JUST REMAIN ON ORDER.

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NO, SIR. OKAY. FOR CERTAIN VENDORS, WE ARE FROM CERTAIN STATE CONTRACTS.

THEY DO LIMIT THE NUMBER, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE OTHER COOPERATIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO FULFILL THE ORDERS THAT WE NEED.

IT'S JUST TAKING A LONG TIME FOR THEM TO FULFILL THE ORDERS.

ALL RIGHT. SO AND JUST JUST TO MENTION TO YOU, THOSE SEVEN VEHICLES HAVE BEEN THE VEHICLES THAT THEY, THAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT THOSE SEVEN ARE REPLACING HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF THE LIST.

THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR LOOKING AT FOR FUTURE REPLACEMENTS, I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

SO IN FY 24, AS I MENTIONED, THE BOARD IS CASH FUNDING OR DOING A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER IN THE AMOUNT OF $450,000 FOR VEHICLE PURCHASES FOR FY 24.

MR. TALMAGE AND HIS ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, AS WELL AS OUR FINANCIAL REPORTING ACCOUNTANT, FINE TUNED SOME FIELDS AND OUR ASSET WORK SYSTEM TO CATEGORIZE OUR VEHICLES BY TYPE BECAUSE THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT REPLACEMENT CONVENTIONS, THE NUMBER OF MILES, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MACHINE HOURS RATHER THAN MILES.

SO THEY WORK VERY HARD TO CREATE CATEGORIES FOR EACH VEHICLE ON OUR LIST.

AND FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS AND SPECIALTY VEHICLES HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED FROM FROM OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT BECAUSE THERE A SEPARATE REPLACEMENT CYCLE AND SEPARATE FUNDING.

SO NOT THAT I'M GOING TO DWELL ON THIS, BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT ARE ON YOUR ASSET LIST AND ASSET LIST A THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET PRETTY MUCH HAS ALL OF THESE VEHICLES.

BUT FOR FOR THE PURPOSES OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON LISTING B, AND THOSE ARE THE VEHICLES THAT ARE MARKED POLICE AND UNMARKED POLICE AND COUNTY FLEET VEHICLES.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, CERTAIN VEHICLES ARE ALSO EXCLUDED FROM THAT.

450. SOCIAL SERVICES DOES HAVE ONE VEHICLE BUDGETED AND THEIR ADOPTED SOCIAL SERVICES BUDGET BECAUSE WE GET STATE SUPPORT OR STATE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT VEHICLE.

SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE 450.

THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT IS A SELF-SUPPORTING ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO MR. HALTOM AND HIS TEAM, THEY PAY FOR THEIR VEHICLES FROM UTILITY FEES.

SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE 450 EITHER.

RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY HAS TWO VEHICLES, AND ANY VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THAT BUDGET BECAUSE HOPEWELL AND SURREY PROVIDE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THOSE.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS TWO VEHICLES, AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THE 450 EITHER.

WHEN WE NEED REPLACEMENTS, WE BUDGET THOSE WITHIN THE ECON DEV BUDGET.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.

IDEALLY FOR OUR MARKED POLICE VEHICLES, WE REPLACE THEM AFTER EIGHT YEARS OR 100,000 MILES.

ALL OTHER VEHICLES IS TEN YEARS OR 125,000.

THAT'S IDEALLY IF WE REPLACED EVERY VEHICLE THAT MET EITHER OF THOSE CRITERIA, WE WOULD BE REPLACING 42 VEHICLES IN FY 24 AT A COST OF OVER OF NEARLY 1.9 MILLION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY ASK IS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE FUNDING TO DO.

SO FOCUS HAD TO BE PLACED FIRST ON MILEAGE OF THE VEHICLES, THEN THE CONDITION AND AGE OF THE VEHICLES.

WHILE WE WERE REVIEWING THE MILEAGE OF OUR VEHICLES AND COMPARING IT TO THE AGE OF OUR FLEET, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH. WE HAVE SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE RUSTING ON OUR LOT BEFORE THEY GET 50,000 MILES ON THEM.

SO WE WANTED TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT PERHAPS MOVING SOME VEHICLES TO A POOL ARRANGEMENT RATHER THAN ASSIGNING VEHICLES FOR RESTRICTED USE WHEN THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF MILES BEING PUT ON THOSE VEHICLES ANNUALLY.

IT MAKES SENSE. RIGHT? SO AGAIN, I MENTIONED TWO DIFFERENT ATTACHMENTS AND WE TRIED TO MAKE THIS ON BIG PAPER SO THAT IT WAS A LITTLE EASIER TO READ.

REPORT A HAS ALL ACTIVE COUNTY VEHICLES, APPARATUS AND TRAILERS THAT ARE IN ASSET WORKS SORTED BY DEPARTMENT REPORT B HAS ALL ACTIVE COUNTY VEHICLES SORTED BY ASSET TYPE AND THEN BY AGE.

AND WE HAVE EXCLUDED, WE HAVE FILTERED OUT YOUR FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS AND YOUR FIRE AND EMS SPECIALTY VEHICLES AND TRAILERS.

AND AGAIN, REPORT B IS THE REPORT THAT WE USED TO DETERMINE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU THIS EVENING.

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AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE REPLACE FIVE MARKED POLICE VEHICLES.

AND ON REPORT B, THOSE VEHICLES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR REPLACEMENT ARE SHADED IN BLUE FOR THE FIVE MARKED AND THE ONE UNMARKED. WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING REPLACING ONE GENERAL SERVICES TRUCK THAT IS IN THE YELLOW SHADING, WHICH IS THE FIRST VEHICLE ON YOUR LIST BE.

PART TWO OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE TO A POOLED ARRANGEMENT FOR 13 VEHICLES, WHICH ARE DRIVEN LESS THAN 4000 MILES ANNUALLY, TEN OF THOSE VEHICLES.

AND THEN WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE POOL VEHICLES THAT CAN BE CHECKED OUT FOR FOLKS ATTENDING CONFERENCES OR WHO NEED A VEHICLE FOR OTHER PURPOSES. SO WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING BY MOVING TO THAT POOLED ARRANGEMENT, PURCHASING FROM ASSET WORKS, A KEY VALET KIOSK AND TO PURCHASE TWO NEWER USED VEHICLES, ONE VAN AND ONE SUV.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND DISPOSING OF 3 TO 4 VEHICLES OF THE 13 THAT WE WOULD BE POOLING AS A START.

WE COULD THEORETICALLY, IF THE POOLING ARRANGEMENT WORKS WELL, DISPOSE OF MORE NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THE VEHICLES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING PUTTING IN THAT POOL ARRANGEMENT DID NOT INCLUDE VEHICLES IN CDCC THAT ARE USED KIND OF AS AN OFFICE ON WHEELS.

OUR ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTION VEHICLE, RECREATION VEHICLES, EXCEPT FOR ONE VAN THAT'S REALLY ONLY USED FOR SUMMER CAMP.

VEHICLES WITHIN GENERAL SERVICES, OUR GARAGE VEHICLES, EXCEPT FOR ONE SUV THAT'S USED ON A LIMITED BASIS.

AND THEN WE ALSO EXCLUDED THE FOOD BANK VEHICLE.

SO THOSE 13 POOL VEHICLES ARE IN THE GREEN SHADING ON YOUR LIST B, AND THEY ARE OUTLINED HERE.

AND THIS SHOWS YOU THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED AND THE NUMBER OF THE NUMBER OF MILES THAT THOSE VEHICLES WERE ACTUALLY DRIVEN BETWEEN THE REPORT THAT WE PRODUCED IN MAY OF 22 AND THE REPORT THAT WAS PULLED DOWN IN JUNE OF 2023.

SO WE HAVE SOME VEHICLES THAT WERE DRIVEN LESS THAN 1000 MILES THAT ARE PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED TO A DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING AWAY FROM THAT.

MR.. MR..

STOKES VEHICLE. HE HE VOLUNTEERED IT UP.

MR. TALMAGE VOLUNTEERED UP ONE OF HIS VEHICLES TO BE PUT IN THAT POOLED ARRANGEMENT SO THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING THOSE VEHICLES PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED TO A DEPARTMENT AND ONLY HAVING 1700 MILES OR 15,000 MILES ON THEM WHEN THERE ARE 2014, WE'RE TRYING TO STREAMLINE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO USE RESOURCES AND ASSETS MORE WISELY.

SO THE THE PITFALLS THAT WE POTENTIALLY SEE ARE CLEANING AND FUELING OF THE VEHICLES FOLLOWING USE.

WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO TWEAK OUR POLICY OR OUR PRACTICES TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE FUELING THEM AS NEEDED.

MR. TALMAGE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE SERVICE WORKERS THAT COME IN PERIODICALLY THAT COULD PERIODICALLY CLEAN THOSE VEHICLES AS NEEDED.

AND WE WOULD ALSO PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE'VE BUDGETED, WE'VE BUDGETED FUEL AND OUR REPAIRS TO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THOSE VEHICLES PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO SHIFT THAT TO OUR NON DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET.

BUT BUT THOSE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ON YOUR LISTING B SHADED IN GREEN AND THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED AGAIN ARE COUNTY ADMIN, ONE VEHICLE WITHIN THE GARAGE, TWO VEHICLES IN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, ONE VEHICLE THAT'S ASSIGNED TO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE.

THOSE VEHICLES ARE TYPICALLY JUST DRIVEN ACROSS THE STREET TO THE POST OFFICE AND TO THE BANK.

I THINK THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE MAY ON A LIMITED BASEMENT BASIS, GO INSPECT CERTAIN ASSETS THAT BUSINESSES HAVE.

THERE'S ONE VEHICLE WITHIN THE PLANNING OFFICE THAT WAS ONLY DRIVEN 1700 MILES COURT SERVICES.

I BELIEVE THE STATE ASSISTED US IN PAYING FOR THAT 2006 FORD EXPLORER.

BUT THERE'S NO MORE STATE MONEY COMING.

AND IN ORDER TO GET THAT INDIVIDUAL, THAT COURT SERVICES WORKER, A BETTER VEHICLE TO DRIVE, MOVING IT TO A POOLED ARRANGEMENT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO MR.

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PARKS AND RECREATION VAN 2007.

VAN HAS 33,000 MILES ON IT.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE BUY IN AND THAT WAY THAT VAN CAN BE CHECKED OUT FOR SUMMER CAMP, BUT COULD BE CHECKED OUT BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS FOR CONFERENCE TRAVEL, ETCETERA.

AND THEN THREE POOL VEHICLES.

OF COURSE, THE NEWEST SUV IS THE ONE THAT GETS CHECKED OUT AND USED THE MOST ABOUT 10,000 MILES.

BUT THE OTHER TWO ONE WAS DRIVEN 2000 MILES AND THE OTHER 3400.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING TO STREAMLINE AND THIS WOULD BE A FIRST STEP THAT'S HARD ON.

IT'S HARD ON A VEHICLE TO HAVE THEM SET, CORRECT? CORRECT. IF YOU MAY, I GOT A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. NO DISRESPECT TO YOU IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO TO HIM.

WITH THE MILEAGE AND THE WAY WE'RE TRACKING VEHICLES NOW.

AND THIS REALLY LUMPS IN POLICE, FIRE AND EMS VEHICLE WITH THE NEWER EQUIPMENT OR ANY OF THEM, DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CHECK THE ECU FOR HOW MANY IDLE HOURS THE ENGINE'S ACTUALLY SEEING WHEN THE CAR IS NOT MOVING? MOST OF THEM, IF NOT ALL.

OKAY. OKAY TO ME.

WELL, YOU'RE A MECHANIC. TO ME, THAT PLAYS INTO YOUR OIL CHANGES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY. THAT'S THE WAY I DO MINE.

ANYWAY, MY TRUCK IDLES A LOT.

SO THE KIOSK, THIS IS A VISUAL OF WHAT THAT KIOSK WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PLACE THAT IN THE MAIL ROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THIS BUILDING.

WE CAN GET ENTRY TO THAT ROOM USING OUR SWIPE ENTRY BADGE.

SO ANYONE THAT WOULD NEED TO CHECK OUT A VEHICLE COULD MAKE A RESERVATION ONLINE, GO TO THE KIOSK IN THE MAIL ROOM AND GET THAT KEY USING THEIR SWIPE ENTRY BADGE AFTER THEY'VE MADE THEIR RESERVATION ONLINE.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE OUT HAVING TO SOMEONE COULD DO IT IN THEORY AFTER HOURS OR EARLY IN THE MORNING BEFORE THE GARAGE STAFF HAS ARRIVED OR LATE IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER THEY'VE LEFT FOR THE DAY.

IT WOULDN'T INCONVENIENCE THE PERSON HAVING TO GO TO THE GARAGE TO GET A KEY.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE PUT IT IN THE MAIL ROOM WHERE WE CAN GAIN ACCESS USING OUR SWIPE ENTRY AFTER MAKING AN ONLINE RESERVATION.

AND HOW ABOUT THE FUEL SITUATION? IF I GO IN AND GET A KEY, WILL I BE ABLE TO GET FUEL WHEN I'M FINISHED BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE FUELED BACK UP? YES, SIR. IN THEORY, YOU WOULD HAVE FUEL IN THAT VEHICLE.

BUT WITH THE FUEL NEW FUELING SYSTEM, THAT VEHICLE WOULD HAVE A SCAN AND COULD GET FUEL FROM THE GARAGE.

THERE WOULD BE NO CARD OR ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING LOST SINCE WE'RE GOING TO THE NEW FUEL FOCUS.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT AS LONG AS YOU CAN GET SOMEONE COULD GET FUEL.

DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WOULDN'T PUT IT BACK SO WELL, I COULDN'T GET FUEL.

BUT WE NEED THEY NEED TO BE FUELED UP IN CASE SOMEBODY WANTS IT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AFTER I USED IT TONIGHT.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT FUEL FOCUS IS ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO BE DOWNLOAD ANY ERROR CODES OR PMS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

SO. SO THAT'S A VISUAL OF THE KIOSK.

SO, SO WHAT OUR REQUEST IS, IS TO PURCHASE FIVE MARKED, ONE UNMARKED POLICE, ONE GENERAL SERVICES TRUCK, WHICH IS UPFITTED FOR PLOW, AND THEN TO PURCHASE A NEWER USED VAN AND A NEWER SUV FOR POOLED ARRANGEMENT AND TO PURCHASE THE ASSET WORKS KEY VALET SYSTEM.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY ROUGH ESTIMATE OF ABOUT 35,000.

BUT ALL TOLD, IT WOULD NOT EXCEED THE 450,000 THAT'S ALLOCATED IN THE ADOPTED FY 24 BUDGET.

AND WE'RE GOING TO SELL SOME VEHICLES, ARE WE? WE THAT IS OUR PLAN TO GET RID OF 3 TO 4 OF THOSE VEHICLES? YES, SIR. AND THAT MONEY WILL JUST GO BACK INTO INTO THE GENERAL FUND? YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

SO THIS THESE PURCHASES DO EXCLUDE ONE SOCIAL SERVICES VEHICLE WHICH IS BUDGETED IN YOUR FY 24 BUDGET WITHIN THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND A UTILITIES ADDITIONAL TRUCK WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE UTILITIES ADDITIONAL ADOPTED BUDGET.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS FROM YOU TO MOVE FORWARD TO PURCHASE THOSE FIVE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND TO AUTHORIZE MOVING TO THAT POOLED ARRANGEMENT OF THOSE 13 VEHICLES ON THAT LIST TO BUY THE KIOSK AND THE NEWER USED VEHICLES, SUV AND THE VAN, ALL AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED THE 450,000.

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MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR.

THE FIRST PART OF IT, I'M OKAY, I GUESS ON THE SECOND PART, THE POOLING AND THIS IS JUST FLOYD'S OPINION.

I REALLY DON'T SEE WHERE THE BOARD NEEDS TO GIVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT.

I WOULD EXPECT THE BEST USE OF THOSE VEHICLES TO BE MANAGED BY OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. TALMAGE. AND FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT THROUGH MS. DREWRY, I MEAN, TO ME, IF POOLING IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO OR LET'S JUST SAY SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, THERE'S A BETTER OPTION.

I WOULD PERSONALLY FEEL THAT'S WITHIN THE AUTHORITY OF UNLESS IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE MONEY.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT AT ALL.

I THINK THE IDEA IS GREAT FOR US TO GIVE THE CONSENSUS TO GO FORWARD.

WE'VE APPROVED THE 450 TO BE SPENT ON VEHICLES.

AND IF THIS IS THE THE BEST WAY THAT ADMIN HAS FIGURED TO TO FACILITATE THAT.

AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S THE WAY TO GO.

ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE NEED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA OR DO ANYTHING? NO. CONSENSUS.

CONSENSUS? YES, SIR.

GO FOR IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AND MR. TALMAGE. THANK YOU.

OKAY. LET ME SEE WHAT WE GOT GOING HERE NOW.

WATER AND WASTEWATER AGREEMENT FROM MR. HALTOM. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MR. ERARD, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK ABOUT OUR CONTINUING ISSUES WITH OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITIES AND SOME POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

JUST KIND OF WANT TO BRIEFLY DESCRIBE WHAT THE ISSUE HAS BEEN.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, DUE TO THE RISK OF THE LIMITED CAPACITIES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IN OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS OR DEVELOPERS THAT ARE VERY HESITANT TO COME INTO THE COUNTY KNOWING THAT THE TIME FRAME TO BUILD THEIR FACILITY OR THEIR SUBDIVISION COULD TAKE 1 TO 2 YEARS.

AND IN THAT TIME FRAME, THAT WATER CAPACITY THEY THOUGHT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE MAY NO LONGER BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO CONNECT.

THE MAIN REASON THAT IS, ESPECIALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, IS RIGHT NOW THE REQUIREMENT TO PAY THE CONNECTION FEES WHICH RESERVES THAT CAPACITY IS AT THE TIME OF BUILDING THE ACTUAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT NOW TO SEE HOW WE CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND STILL BRING SOME DEVELOPMENT TO THE COUNTY.

SO I GAVE YOU A SCENARIO THERE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

BUT AS I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSION, I WENT AND TALKED TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO LOOK AT SOME SCENARIOS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE TO THIS BOARD THAT YOU MIGHT FIND ACCEPTABLE IN CONTRACTS.

THOSE CONTRACTS ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF EXTENSIONS OF OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. SO FIRST THING WE DID IS LOOKED AT OUR ORDINANCE AND OUR ORDINANCE.

WE ADDED SOME LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE AND AGAIN, I PROVIDED THAT IN YOUR PACKET AND I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR REQUIRE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO ADDRESS THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF ADDING OR RESERVING CAPACITY FOR ANY TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.

AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT JUST VERY BRIEFLY HERE.

BUT FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THE ONE THAT DOESN'T CHANGE HARDLY AT ALL IS OUR NONRESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

CURRENTLY, ALL OF THE NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE BUSINESSES INDUSTRY.

THEY PAY THEIR CONNECTION FEES WHEN THEY GET THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.

SO AS SOON AS THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR SITE PLANS AND THEY GET ALL THEIR APPROVALS FROM THE BUILDING OFFICE AS WELL, THEY CAN GO GET THEIR BUILDING PERMIT AT THE SAME TIME, PAY THEIR CONNECTION FEES AND THEN THAT CAPACITY THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS RESERVED.

SO THERE REALLY ARE NO CHANGES THERE.

WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING CHANGES BECAUSE THEY DON'T TAKE ANY RISK.

AS SOON AS THEY GET THEIR PLANS DONE, THEY KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO START BUILDING BASED ON THE CAPACITY THAT'S AVAILABLE.

HOWEVER, WE ARE RECOMMENDING IF A DEVELOPMENT DOES TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PAYING THEIR CONNECTION FEES AND THEN JUST HANGING ON TO THAT CAPACITY FOR YEARS ON END, WE WANT THE ABILITY TO TAKE THAT CAPACITY BACK FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ACTUALLY DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO WE'RE SUGGESTING IF THE PERMITS ACTUALLY DO EXPIRE, THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REVOKE THAT CAPACITY AND WE WOULD ISSUE THOSE REFUNDS FOR THAT FOR THE CONNECTION FEES THAT THEY PAID.

SO ALL OF THAT WOULD BE TIED TO THEIR BUILDING PERMIT TIMEFRAMES.

AND IF THEY ARE NOT BUILDING, THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT CAPACITY BACK.

IF THEY HAVE STARTED BUILDING AND THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS FINISHING THEIR PROJECT AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES MOVING FORWARD, WHAT WOULD THAT TIME RESTRAINT

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SO 18 MONTHS, IF THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS WHATSOEVER, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM FIRST.

IT'S NOT SIMPLY TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM YOU, BUT THE IDEA IS IF YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS AND YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING FROM YOU.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LET PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HOLDING ON TO SITES FOR YEARS ON END WITHOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT RIGHT NOW AND I'LL GO THROUGH WHERE THIS IS SHOWN IN THE ORDINANCE IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT IT IS IN YOUR PACKET.

WE SPOKE MR. CHAIRMAN, WE SPOKE WITH THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, RIGHT? WE DID. AS PART OF THE WORK SESSION.

THIS WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT, JUST HOW CAN WE FIX IT? WE IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM.

WE GAVE YOU SOME POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS.

NOW WE WORKED THROUGH THESE AND I'M ACTUALLY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS ON ORDINANCE CHANGES, AS WELL AS SHOWING HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THOSE IN OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER AGREEMENTS.

SO THOSE ARE STILL TO COME HERE IN JUST A MINUTE, WHICH WILL.

REFLECT ON THE CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS THAT CAN'T TURN THEM THAT QUICK? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I DID SPEAK WITH OUR LOCAL DEVELOPERS AND AND HAD THEM WEIGH IN ON THIS AS WELL.

GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE WE'RE ASKING FOR.

THE NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE IN.

AND THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE SIMILAR FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

BUT IN ADDITION, RIGHT NOW, AS I MENTIONED, ALREADY, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHEN THEY ARE CONSTRUCTED, THEY PAY THEIR FEES RIGHT NOW ANYWAYS AT THE TIME OF RECEIVING THEIR BUILDING PERMIT FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL HOME.

SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE 100 LOT SUBDIVISION, IT COULD TAKE YOU A YEAR OR TWO TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN UNTIL THE UTILITIES FINALLY ACCEPTS IT BEFORE THEY CAN START BUILDING THEIR FIRST HOME.

SO 1 TO 2 YEARS AWAY AFTER THEY GOT ALL THEIR APPROVALS AND THEIR PERMITS TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEY STILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR ALL OF IT TO BE BUILT BEFORE THEY CAN RESERVE ANY CAPACITY.

AND THAT IS THE RISK THAT THESE DEVELOPERS ARE TAKING RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT HAS BEEN WHAT THEY'VE VOICED TO ME IS THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN.

HOW CAN THEY SHORTEN THAT GAP OF THAT RISK? SO SOME OF THE POSSIBLE CHANGES WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH AS A RECOMMENDATION IS INSTEAD OF WAIT UNTIL THAT INDIVIDUAL HOME, AS SOON AS THEY HAVE ALL THE PERMITS IN PLACE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN THEY CAN RESERVE THEIR CAPACITY.

THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY ALL THOSE CONNECTION FEES UP FRONT FOR THE NUMBER OF LOTS THEY WANT TO RESERVE.

SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, JUST LIKE WITH INDUSTRY OR BUSINESSES, COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, AS SOON AS THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR SITE PLANS AND THEY PULL THEIR PERMITS, THEY CAN RESERVE THEIR CAPACITY FEES.

WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING THE SAME THING NOW FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE DEVELOPER WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTS TO PAY THOSE CONNECTION FEES TO RESERVE IT IF HE CHOOSES NOT TO.

WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THE CONTRACTS.

SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THAT INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPER WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTS TO RESERVE IT, BUT AT LEAST HE CAN REDUCE THAT RISK BY RESERVING ALL OF IT OR A PORTION OF IT SO HE CAN HAVE SOME HOMES HE CAN BUILD AT THE TIME OR AFTER HE BUILDS ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO HE CAN HE CAN START HIS DEVELOPMENT AND BUILD PART OF THEM AND NOT PAY FOR THE REST OF THEM AND BE NO GUARANTEE THEY CAN BUILD THE REST OF THEM BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT BE WATER SEWER.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SORRY. DID YOU CONTINUE? CONTINUE THROUGH THIS. IS THIS MORE OF A RESTRICTION BECAUSE WE'RE OUT OF WATER CAPACITY NOW AND THEN ONCE ALL YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE GETS DONE, THEN YOU TAKE AND THEY CAN GO BACK TO HOW THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING.

OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING LONG TERM? WELL, TO ME, THIS THIS MAKES SENSE TO DO LONG TERM.

I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE THE CAPACITY.

IT NO LONGER BECOMES AN ISSUE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ISSUE AND WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE RISK TO THE DEVELOPERS.

SO THOSE WHO COME IN AND ARE SHOWING PROGRESS TOWARDS GETTING THEIR PLAN APPROVAL, GETTING THE PERMITS AND GETTING CONSTRUCTION GOING, THIS BENEFITS THEM DOES NOT BENEFIT THOSE WHO ARE TAKING THEIR TIME.

SO SOMEBODY WHO IS ESSENTIALLY ALL IN TO BE ABLE TO START BUILDING, TAKING ALL THE NECESSARY STEPS AND IT DOESN'T HURT THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO GO SLOW BECAUSE THEY CAN STILL FOLLOW THE EXACT SAME PROCESS THEY ARE DOING NOW.

BUT THEY WOULD JUST IF THEY ARE BUILDING A LARGE SUBDIVISION, THEY TAKE THAT RISK.

BUT THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.

SO THIS IS JUST AN OPTION TO REDUCE RISK FOR THEM SO IT DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY.

YOU CAN ONLY BENEFIT PEOPLE.

IT BENEFITS THE WEALTHY.

IF YOU GOT THE MONEY TO PUT UP IN ORDER TO RESERVE YOUR SPACE, THE RICH PEOPLE WOULD CONTINUE TO GET THEIR PERMITS.

THE ONE THAT'S ONLY MAKING MONEY AS THEY SELL HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE PENALIZED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE CASH FLOW.

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THAT'S TRUE. MR..

HOLCOMB BUT YOU MENTIONED YOU MENTIONED A CONSTRAINT EARLIER.

I MISUNDERSTOOD IT.

EXPIRATION DATE OF 18 MONTHS.

THAT IS CORRECT. IF THEY COME IN AND THEY AND THEY BUY UP 30, 32 PERMITS AND IN 18 MONTHS, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BY 15.

I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

I WANT TO GET THROUGH THESE ORDINANCE CHANGES REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT LANGUAGE THAT I'M RECOMMENDING THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY IT'LL EXPLAIN A LOT OF THAT.

OKAY. BUT REAL QUICK, JUST TO GO THROUGH THE THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, WHAT I'M ASKING HERE FOR IS KIND OF WHAT I JUST ASKED FOR OR JUST SUGGESTED BEFORE ANY TYPE OF RIGHT NOW, WE ALREADY HAVE REQUIREMENTS IN THE ORDINANCE FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO EXTENSIONS OF OUR WATER OR WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. THEY HAVE TO ENTER A CONTRACT WITH THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND IT HAS TO ABIDE BY THAT CONTRACT.

AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT'S STATING TODAY IS YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT TO OUR STANDARDS AND WE WILL ACCEPT IT AS OURS AND MAINTAIN IT, AND WE'LL CHARGE THE NECESSARY CONNECTION FEES AND IT'LL BE OUR RIGHTS TO TO OPERATE IT AS NEEDED.

WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING TO ADD IS IN THE CONTRACT IS THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO RESERVE WATER CAPACITY FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS GIVES THEM AN OPTION.

IT CAN BE ZERO IF THEY WANT TO RESERVE ZERO, IF THEY WANT TO RESERVE ALL OF IT.

AND WE'LL GET TO THAT POINT AS WELL.

OF COURSE, THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND OR PRESENT TO YOU.

AND THE OTHER PART THAT'S REALLY NEW TO THIS IS CURRENTLY ALL AGREEMENTS HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL AND TALK WITH MR. ERARD. WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF FORM AGREEMENT THAT'S STANDARDIZED FOR FOR THE COUNTY.

WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ADD THIS SECTION HERE THAT SAYS THAT THE DIRECTOR IS AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE THOSE AGREEMENTS.

SO IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT LANGUAGE BEING IN THERE, I CAN LEAVE THAT IN.

AND ME AND MR. ROBB WILL WORK ON THAT FORM AGREEMENT.

MY QUESTION WITH THAT, YOU'RE NOT THE ONES GOING TO GET THE PHONE CALL ALL HOURS OR SOME SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO KEEP US IN THE LOOP IS WHAT'S BEING DONE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOU SIGNING THE CONTRACTS, BUT I WANT TO AT LEAST BE KEPT IN THE LOOP ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

NOT AFTER THE FACT.

OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN DEVELOP A POLICY ON HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

IF THE BOARD WANTS TO STAY ENGAGED OR IF ALL CONTRACTS WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS.

AND AT THAT POINT, WE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS IF THEY WANT TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT TRYING TO RESTRICT YOU IN ANY WAY, BUT WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND IT'S A HELL OF A NOTE WHEN WE GET CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT SOMETHING AND WE CAN'T ANSWER IT OR DON'T EVEN HAVE A CLUE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'M FINE EITHER WAY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE MYSELF MORE AUTHORITY.

I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO REDUCE THE TIMEFRAMES.

I DIDN'T TAKE IT THAT WAY. AND THEN A LOT OF THIS LANGUAGE THAT YOU SEE UP HERE THAT'S ADDED.

THIS IS 82-41.

THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION THAT'S 82-77.

THAT IS ALMOST THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE, OTHER THAN THE TWO THINGS I JUST MENTIONED, WHICH WAS THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR RESERVING WATER AND ALLOWING THE DIRECTOR TO EXECUTE AGREEMENTS. ALL THAT OTHER LANGUAGE CAME FROM 82-77 AND WE'RE ELIMINATING 8777.

SO WE'LL JUST HAVE THIS ONE SECTION AND THIS WILL APPLY.

THERE'S A THIS IS THE WATER ORDINANCE, IF YOU WILL.

THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION IN THE WASTEWATER ORDINANCE THAT SAYS ALMOST VERBATIM THE SAME THING.

I'M JUST NOT IT'S IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS THE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THE OTHER SECTION WE'RE ADDING OR RECOMMENDING FOR AN AMENDMENT IS 82, DASH 42.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR THE DIRECTOR TO BE AUTHORIZED TO REVOKE THOSE WATER CAPACITIES FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT SHOWING THAT THEY ARE MAKING PROGRESS.

AGAIN, IF THEIR COUNTY ISSUED BUILDING PERMIT HAS EXPIRED OR THEY'RE FAILING TO UTILIZE ALL THE WATER CAPACITY, THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO REVOKE IT AND THEN APPLY ANY REFUNDS AS NECESSARY.

SO THESE ARE THE TWO AMENDMENTS.

AND AGAIN, IT'S A TOTAL OF FOUR BECAUSE IT DOES APPLY TO THE WASTEWATER SIDE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, THE RATIONALE, IF I MAY, THE RATIONALE OF REVOKING IT.

I DON'T DISAGREE SHOULD BE ON YOU OR YOUR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S AWARE OF EXACTLY WHERE IT IS AND HAVE ALL THE THE INS AND OUTS ABOUT ACTUAL REVOCATION OF SOMETHING.

BUT IN THE SAME BREATH, WE NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU REVOKE THAT, OUR PHONES ARE GOING TO RING.

SURE. SURE. SO IF YOU IF THERE'S A REVOCATION, IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO BE NOTIFIED BASICALLY

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NOT THAT IT WOULDN'T BE JUSTIFIED.

AND IT MAY BE THAT WE NEED TO JUST KNOW THE JUSTIFICATION.

SO WHEN WE GET THAT PHONE CALL, WE CAN SAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED AND THIS IS WHY.

OKAY. I UNDERSTOOD.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE MORE TO MS..

ERARD. WHAT, IF ANY, APPEAL PROCESS IS THERE? WHAT IF THAT DECISION IS MADE BY THE DIRECTOR AND THE PERSON DOESN'T AGREE WITH IT? DOES IT JUST END RIGHT THERE? BECAUSE WHERE I SEE THIS GOING IS SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET UPSET AND THEY'RE GOING TO CALL THE BOARD AND WANT TO COME UP AND STAND HERE IN PUBLIC COMMENTS AND CALL THAT OUT TO THE BOARD, LOOKING FOR US TO DO SOMETHING AT THIS TIME.

THERE IS NO APPEAL PROCESS THAT WE HAVE CONTEMPLATED.

WE COULD PUT ONE IN THE ORDINANCE IF THE BOARD WANTED.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST FEEL WITHOUT ONE, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY LEAVING US AS THE NEXT LEVEL OF APPEAL, WHETHER IT'S A DOCUMENTED PROCEDURE OR NOT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT PHONE CALL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE.

I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER BE OUT OF IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS BEHIND WHY IT WAS BEING REVOKED, TO BE HONEST.

SO THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION OF OTHER.

THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE JUST KIND OF A SET OF CRITERIA THAT WOULD BE USED CONSISTENTLY FOR FOR REVOCATIONS AND TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE UPFRONT TO DEVELOPERS.

I AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH.

LAST THING YOU WANT IS TO FOR IT TO BE PERCEIVED AS BEING SUBJECTIVE.

ALL RIGHT, MR. WEBB, I GOT ONE QUESTION, FRANK.

YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH THE LOGIC.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A WAY TO FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY MANAGE THIS.

I'M NOT SURE.

HOW IT'S GOING TO HELP VERSUS HURT A CUSTOM HOME BUILDER THAT MAY ONLY BUILD 1 OR 2 HOMES A YEAR.

IF WE RUN INTO THE SCENARIO WHERE SOMEBODY WILLING TO COME IN AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT ALL THAT UP, UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO HOLD A PERCENTAGE IN RESERVE FOR THAT GROUP OR THAT CAPACITY. HOW'S THAT GOING TO PLAY OUT? WELL, LET ME GO THROUGH THIS.

THESE OPTIONS FOR THE CONTRACT WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS RESERVATION OF CAPACITIES AND HOPEFULLY THIS MIGHT ADDRESS THOSE.

AGAIN, I DID TALK TO OUR ONE LOCAL DEVELOPER WHO DOES THE CUSTOM HOME BUILDING, AND THEY SEEMED OKAY WITH THESE TWO OPTIONS.

SO AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW I CAME UP WITH THIS IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT THE TWO CONDITIONS THAT APPLY FOR RESERVING CAPACITIES.

FIRST ONE IS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE YOUR PERMITS FOR FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE SECOND ONE IS YOU'VE GOT TO PAY THE CONNECTION FEES.

THAT HAS BEEN STANDARD PRACTICE FOR THE COUNTY FOR FOR ALL TIME THAT I'M AWARE OF.

AND IT'S PROBABLY STANDARD PRACTICE AND PROBABLY AMONGST MOST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IS YOU PAY YOUR CONNECTION FEES TO GET YOUR CAPACITY.

OTHERWISE WE DON'T HAVE OTHER MEANS OTHER THAN HOLDING THEIR METER.

AND SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS WILL JUST PUT A A PIECE OF PIPE IN AT THAT METER CONNECTION AND START TAKING WATER.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THAT OCCUR.

SO GETTING YOUR CONNECTION FEES UP FRONT IS CRITICAL FOR ALLOWING THAT CAPACITY TO BE RESERVED.

SO THE FIRST OPTION I'VE PRESENTED HERE, IF YOU HAVE A SUBDIVISION OF 50, LOTS OR LESS, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE 50 WAS THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR DEVELOPERS INITIALLY THIS WAS ONLY 12 THINKING.

I WAS TRYING TO GET DOWN TO A NUMBER THAT WAS REASONABLE AS FAR AS THE THE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY THAT WAS REASONABLE FOR A TYPICAL COMMERCIAL LOT.

AND TO A DEVELOPER DOING RESIDENTIAL LOTS, THEY TIE IT TO THE BOND AMOUNTS.

HOW MUCH MONEY CAN THEY BOND FOR THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD? AND 50 WAS THE NUMBER THEY PROVIDED ME.

AND TO ME, I LOOKED AT THOSE NUMBERS.

THAT'S STILL A DECENT AMOUNT.

IT'S NOT A UH, OBSCENE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY TO RESERVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE INDUSTRY THAT CAN RESERVE 200,000 OR 300,000 UPON THEIR PERMIT.

THIS IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 1500 THOUSAND.

SO THERE'S NOT A NOT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CAPACITY.

SO SO IF YOU HAVE A SUBDIVISION THAT'S ONLY 50, LOTS OR LESS, AGAIN, YOU DO HAVE TO PAY THE CONNECTION FEES, BUT YOU CAN RESERVE IT ALL UP FRONT.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY RISK, WHAT'S THAT ROUGH ESTIMATE ROUGHLY? AS FAR AS CONNECTION FEES, IT'S 9000 TIMES NINE.

40. 450,000.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. YES, IT IS.

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THEY CAN PAY FOR WHAT THEY KNOW.

THEY THEY THEY WANT TO BUILD RIGHT AWAY OR THEY CAN PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING IF THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO.

AND I'M SURE YOU'LL GET TO IT.

BUT IF I GIVE YOU 450,000, YOU HOLD 50 LOTS FOR ME.

THAT'S CORRECT. GUARANTEE ME WATER.

THAT'S CORRECT. FOR 18 MONTHS.

I'M NO. AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO GET BACK HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

ONE OF THE OTHER, LET'S SAY AND I'LL GET THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

SO IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 50 LOTS, THEN YOU CAN RESERVE UP TO THAT 50.

AND THEN ONCE YOU START BUILDING AND YOU GET 80% OF THOSE HOMES THAT YOU'RE BUILDING, FOLKS LIVING IN THEM, ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU GET YOUR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR 40 OF THOSE 50 HOMES, THEN YOU CAN RESERVE THE NEXT 50.

AND BY THEN, TYPICALLY, IF YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED BUILDING 40 HOMES, YOU'VE GOT ALL OF YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AT THAT POINT.

AND IF YOU WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING HERE IS BOTTOM OF THAT PARAGRAPH.

ONCE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND THE COUNTY ACCEPTS IT AS COMPLETE, WHICH USUALLY TAKES ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AFTER EVERYTHING'S DONE, WE GO THROUGH THE WARRANTY PERIOD, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING, GO THROUGH THE PUNCH LIST, THEN WE'LL DO OUR FINAL ACCEPTANCE AND AT THAT POINT THEY CAN RESERVE FOR AS MANY LOTS AS THEY WANT AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ADDRESS MOST OF THEM.

BUT AGAIN, GOT TO PAY THE CONNECTION FEES.

SO IF THEY HAVE 200 LOTS AND THEY'RE STARTING TO BUILD 50 AND THEY CAN I'LL USE CHAPEL CREEK AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY'RE THEY'RE BUILDING PRETTY QUICK OVER THERE OR THE MEADOWS, THEY'RE BUILDING PRETTY QUICK OVER THERE TOO.

ALL THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.

THEY CAN RESERVE THE NUMBER OF LOTS THEY WANT FOR THE FOR THE AMOUNT, FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS IN THEIR IN THEIR SUBDIVISION.

THE ONLY REQUIREMENT WOULD BE TO PAY YOUR CONNECTION FEES AT THAT POINT.

AGAIN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO IF IT'S ONLY IF THEY WANT TO.

THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AT ALL? YOU'RE DOING GOOD. OKAY.

I'M TRYING. I'M ALMOST TOTALLY CONFUSED, BUT.

YEAH. I'M SORRY.

I JUST DON'T WANT YOU HOLDING ON TO MY $450,000, AND I'M NOT SELLING AS MANY HOUSES AS YOU THINK, AND YOU'RE USING MY MONEY AND GETTING INTEREST OFF OF IT.

AND THEN YOU GIVE IT BACK TO ME AT THE SAME RATE I GAVE IT TO YOU.

YEAH. IF YOU'RE BUILDING, WE'RE NOT TAKING IT BACK.

ONCE YOU BUILD OUT, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD TAKE IT BACK UNLESS YOU HAVE REFUSED TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING NOW, NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IF THEY DON'T BUILD IT ALL, THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT BACK.

BUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, ONCE YOU'VE BUILT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ARE GUARANTEEING THAT WE WILL GIVE YOU THAT CAPACITY AS LONG AS YOU PAY THOSE CONNECTION FEES.

AND AS A UTILITY, I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US NOT TO ASSURE SOMEBODY WHO'S BUILT THE NUMBER OF LOTS THEY NEEDED TO ENSURE THEY HAVE THAT CAPACITY AVAILABLE FOR WHEN THEY BUILD IT. AND BY NO MEANS ARE WE ARGUING WITH YOUR THEORY BEHIND.

I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.

SURE. OF WHAT WE MAY HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE WELL KNOWN FOR YEARS AROUND HERE.

YEAH. YOU'VE TALKED TO THEM? I'M SORRY. YOU'VE GOT THEIR INPUT.

YOU'VE TALKED TO THEM. I HAVE? YES. OKAY. WHICH IS GREAT, BY THE WAY.

YEAH, I THINK.

AND SOME OF IT WAS JUST AS RECENT AS THIS PAST MONDAY, BUT OR EXCUSE ME, FRIDAY, TODAY'S TUESDAY, FRIDAY.

AND BUT THEY ALL FELT THAT ONE WAS A BIG DEVELOPER.

ONE WAS THE SMALL TOWN LOCAL DEVELOPER BUILDING CUSTOM HOMES.

AND THEY ALL FEEL REASONABLY WELL THAT OF COURSE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, AS MUCH AS YOU GUYS MAY NOT HAVE A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING, NEITHER DO THEY.

SO I'M TRYING TO GUIDE THEM THROUGH JUST AS MUCH.

AND THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT HERE, I'M SURE, AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AS WE GO.

BUT AT LEAST THIS GIVES SOME OF THEM AN OPTION TO REDUCE THEIR RISK AND START CONTINUING TO BUILD.

DID YOU NOT SAY, RELIEF FIVE YEARS AWAY, 5 TO 7.

I HOPE WE'RE MUCH CLOSER THAN THAT BY NOW.

WE'RE ABOUT TWO YEARS AWAY ON THE WATER, MEANING WE CAN BUILD OUR TANK AND BOOSTER STATION.

THE WASTEWATER IS A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

IT'S ABOUT FOUR YEARS, SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER NOW AND THAT'S JUST IN THE BUSINESS PARK AREA FOR THE FOR THAT WASTEWATER PIECE.

NOW, I DO HAVE A SECOND OPTION.

AND ESSENTIALLY ALL I'M DOING IS REMOVING A AND B THERE AND SAYING THEY CAN UPON GETTING THEIR APPROVED PLANS AND GETTING THEIR PERMITS, THEY CAN RESERVE ALL THEIR CAPACITY. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO ELIMINATE ALL THE CONFUSION.

IF THEY WANT TO PAY IT ALL UP FRONT, THEY CAN.

AND I'VE SEEN FOLKS WHO HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST BECAUSE THEY CAN ESSENTIALLY REDUCE THE PRICES OF THEIR HOME.

THEY JUST INCREASE THE PRICE OF THEIR HOMES AND GET IT BACK THROUGH THAT.

BUT ALSO SOME PEOPLE WILL TRY TO DO THAT IF THEY KNOW THAT CONNECTION FEES ARE CONTINUING TO RISE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND PAY IT ALL UP FRONT AND JUST CHARGE THE HOMEOWNER FOR IT AS A AS THEY BUILD THE HOMES.

YOU SAID NORMALLY THEY TIE THAT TO THE BOND, WHICH IS TYPICALLY 50.

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SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM AND WHATEVER MONEY POWER THEY HAVE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THEN THEY CAN THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AS THEY SEE HOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM.

BUT AGAIN, THIS THIS DOESN'T HURT THE CURRENT PROCESS CAN STILL GO FORWARD AS WE ARE TODAY.

THIS IS JUST AN OPTION FOR DEVELOPERS WHO DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY LESS RISK.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

NOW, I'VE AGAIN, THESE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, I'M SURE YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK OVER THEM, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK, I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE IN A FUTURE REVISION AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU WITH THOSE REVISIONS AND THEN BE ASKING FOR AN AUTHORIZATION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE READY TO PUT THIS IN THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT OR NOT.

DON'T SOUND LIKE IT. I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS ASKING FOR TONIGHT.

OKAY. NO, NOT TONIGHT.

NO, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING TONIGHT.

OKAY. ONLY IF IT ALL WENT WELL.

WELL, I JUST THINK THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN STRAIGHTEN OUT A LITTLE BIT, AND.

YEAH. AND RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY, I SEE A NOTIFYING THE BOARD OF THESE.

ANY TYPE OF ISSUES THAT MAY COME UP WITH REVOKING, DEVELOPING UP AN APPEAL PROCESS AND SOME CRITERIA FOR THE ANY TYPE OF REVOCATION OF WATER OR SEWER CAPACITIES.

I DON'T THINK THE BOARD HAS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR AUTHORITY.

I THINK IT'S JUST NOTIFICATION IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AUTHORITY.

I'D LIKE TO BE KEPT IN THE LOOP SO I KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.

ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN MOVE IT UP TO A REPORT.

DURING THE SEPTEMBER 12TH MEETING TO REVIEW IT AGAIN DURING A 7:00 MEETING WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

WITH THAT. OH, OKAY. YES.

ON THE 26TH.

DO IT ON THE 26TH.

OH, THAT'S A BUSY NIGHT.

PUMP IT TO THE 26TH.

YEAH. AGAIN, WE'VE GOT SIX, SEVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG NIGHT ALREADY.

BRING YOUR CAFFEINE WITH YOU.

WHAT NUMBER DID YOU SAY ON WASTEWATER? HOW MANY YEARS OUT? FOUR.

FOUR YEARS. FOUR YEARS.

OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU SAID 40.

NO, THAT WON'T BE HERE.

NOT THAT QUICK.

WE'LL MOVE THIS ITEM TO 7 P.M.

MEETING UNDER REPORTS ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. HALTOM. VERY INFORMATIVE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, THAT ENDS THE WORK SESSION? YES. YES, SIR. THE NEXT THING IS, IT'LL BE OUR INVOCATION.

[INVOCATION]

YEAH. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING JUST TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SEE YET ANOTHER DAY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO WATCH OVER THIS BOARD AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUSINESS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU TO WRAP YOUR LOVING ARMS OF PROTECTION AROUND OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE, EMS, ALL OF OUR CITIZENS HERE IN THIS COUNTY, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU TO LOOK AFTER ALL THAT MAY HAVE SOME LOVED ONES THAT THEY'VE LOST.

AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAPPEN EACH AND EVERY DAY IN THIS COUNTY.

AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU THIS EVENING FOR ALLOWING THIS BOARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN A VERY PEACEFUL AND HARMONIOUS WAY.

AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN YOUR NAME TONIGHT.

AMEN. AMEN.

I'D LIKE TO ASK MISTER CARMICHAEL IF HE'D LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG.

ALLEGIANCE] THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

YES. HERE WE GO.

THIS IS A TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT TO MAKE TO THE BOARD, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP MRS. KNOTT? NO, SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP.

SO ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY SITUATION COME FORWARD AND BE HEARD.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AND DISCUSS SOMETHING WITH THE BOARD, COME FORWARD AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR SITUATION IS.

I SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD, SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND OPEN FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.

[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]

[01:05:09]

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD ADD ITEM A6 TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, AND THAT WOULD BE CAMERAS FOR OUR DSS APPROPRIATION OF MONIES FOR CAMERAS FOR DSS.

OKAY. I'LL SECOND IT.

A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HERE AND NOW. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

CONSENSUS. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE THREE ITEMS AS PRESENTED.

[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]

SECOND A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

NOW, SUPERVISOR COMMENTS.

[SUPERVISORS’ COMMENTS]

I AM GOOD FOR TONIGHT, CHAIRMAN.

WELL, WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. WAYMACK THANK YOU.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO.

THANK ALL OF OUR CITIZENS FOR ALL THAT THEY DO.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE LORD FOR SPARING US ALL THE BAD WEATHER THAT OTHER PLACES HAVE HAD.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IN OTHER AREAS AND WE WERE SPARED THAT.

SO WE THANK OUR HEAVENLY FATHER FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MR. BROWN? YES, SIR.

I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT SENT CARDS OR CALLED OR CONDOLENCES.

I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY SAY THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A BIG CHORE IN FRONT OF ME TO GET THANK-YOU CARDS TOGETHER, SO I THOUGHT I'D SAY THAT TONIGHT IN CASE IT TAKES ME A LITTLE BIT TO GET TO THAT.

AND AGAIN, I JUST I JUST STRESS TO EVERYONE WE NEED TO BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER AND WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT LIFE IS NOT GUARANTEED TO US AND WE NEED TO TREAT EACH PERSON WITH RESPECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HELP US MAKE IT THROUGH AS CITIZENS HERE IN THIS COUNTY.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. MR. WEBB? NOTHING TONIGHT, SIR.

IT COMES TO ME.

I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT I SERVED ON THE VIRGINIA GATEWAY REGIONAL BOARD, AND MY PARTNER ON THAT BOARD WAS MR. CLEMENTS, PETER CLEMENTS, AND WHO WE LOST THIS PAST WEEK, A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO, ACTUALLY.

BUT AT ANY RATE, HE WILL BE MISSED.

HE WAS A REAL PILLAR IN OUR COMMUNITY AND DID A LOT FOR FOR PRINCE GEORGE AND JUST WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT HIM AND HIS FAMILY.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE.

SO. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS, SIR.

[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR’S COMMENTS]

WORK CONTINUES ON THE OLD WALTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SPECIFICALLY BUILDING I THE GYM BUILDING AS WE PREPARE IT TO HAVE THE TEMPORARY PRINCE GEORGE COURTHOUSE ANNEX ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.

COURTHOUSE CIRCUIT COURT RENOVATIONS WILL BEGIN AT THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY COURTHOUSE.

AND FOR ABOUT THE JUST SHORT OF NEXT YEAR OR SO, WE'LL BE HOLDING TRIALS, JURY TRIALS AT THAT LOCATION AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE UNTIL COMPLETION OF THE RENOVATIONS IN AUGUST.

A FEW DATES AUGUST 10TH, THE BACK TO SCHOOL DRIVE THROUGH FAIR HOSTED BY THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WILL BE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FROM 4 P.M.

TO 7 P.M.

OF COURSE, THE PRINCE GEORGE FARMERS MARKET IS STILL IN FULL SWING.

IT'S A NATIONAL FARMERS MARKET WEEK ON AUGUST 12TH.

AUGUST 24TH WILL BE THE EXIT 45 PROPERTY OWNERS MEETING HOSTED BY THE PRINCE GEORGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS AT 11 A.M. THE FARMERS MARKET COMES BACK ON AUGUST 26TH FOR DOG APPRECIATION DAY.

COUNTY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 4TH FOR THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY.

PRINCE GEORGE FARMERS MARKET WILL HAVE FIRST RESPONDERS DAY, USUALLY ALIGNED WITH 911 THIS YEAR.

IT WILL BE HELD SEPTEMBER 9TH, BEGINNING AT 9 A.M.

THE NEXT SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 11TH AT 630 RIGHT HERE.

AND THE NEXT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 12TH, STARTING AT 5 P.M.

RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, SIR.

[01:10:01]

[REPORTS]

CRYSTAL SMITH FROM VDOT.

WELCOME. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TONIGHT, BUT A FEW UPDATES.

GOLF COURSE ROAD AND LONE OAK MILL ROAD, THOSE TWO BRIDGE PROJECTS ARE STILL ONGOING AND ON SCHEDULE.

BULL HILL, THE ROUNDABOUT THERE IS ALSO STILL ON SCHEDULE FOR CONSTRUCTION TO START IN OCTOBER.

THE NO THROUGH TRUCK RESTRICTION FOR THE FIVE ROUTES THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERWAY FOR I FEEL LIKE FIVE YEARS NOW IS STILL IN THE PROCESS.

IT IS AT THE DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE NOW WAITING FOR SUPPORT FROM HIM TO MOVE TO THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE.

WE JUST COMPLETED OUR SECOND CYCLE OF LITTER AND MOWING, AND THIS MONTH I PICKED A FEW OF OUR GOALS AND DECIDED TO SHARE OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

SO OUR CREWS HAVE COMPLETED 21,000 LINEAR FEET OF DITCH FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, 71,000 LINEAR FEET OF DITCH AND PIPE INSPECTIONS, 348 POTHOLES AND 11 MILES OF TREE TRIMMING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR UPDATES TONIGHT.

ANYTHING FROM ME? OH, I'M SORRY. ONE OTHER THING, MR. CARMICHAEL. I DID LOOK INTO THE FLASHING WARNING SIGN FOR THE FIRE STATION OR THE FLASHING OVERHEADS.

TRIED TO GET A WAIVER FOR THE SAFETY FUNDS AND WAS DENIED SO THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO FUND THAT FOR THE FIRE STATION.

THAT'S THE ONE ON 460? YES. RIGHT. PARK MIDDLE ROAD.

JUST ONE. THE PUMP HOUSE ROAD PROJECT.

YES THEY'RE USING THREE DRIVE AS A DETOUR AROUND? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

JUST SOME MAJOR POTHOLES.

. OKAY. IN THAT AREA AND A LOT OF CITIZENS ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH KNOCKING THEIR CURRENT ALIGNMENT OUT OF WHACK AND JUST COMPLAINING.

OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

AND THE MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON.

WE'RE MEETING THURSDAY AT ONE.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'RE MEETING THURSDAY.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU UPDATED THE BOARD ABOUT NOT NEEDING TO MATCH FUNDS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

YES. SO, UM, AS FAR AS THE REVENUE SHARING PORTION GOES, IF THAT GOES THROUGH, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO MATCH THE FUNDS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE IT IN THE PLAN, THE COUNTY'S SIX YEAR PLAN.

ALL RIGHT. WE CAN TAKE THOSE FUNDS AND PUT THE LIGHT UP AT THIS FIREHOUSE.

WELL, YOU HAVEN'T PUT THE FUNDS UP YET, SO YOU JUST WON'T HAVE TO DO IT LATER.

AND MR. TIM GRAVES, OUT OF PLANNING, WAS THE ONE WHO HELPED PREPARE THE APPLICATION FOR THAT REVENUE SHARING WITH VDOT.

YES. YES.

AND THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY CITY.

I WASN'T EVEN AWARE AT THE TIME THAT YOUR SIX YEAR PLAN FUNDS COULD COUNT TOWARDS YOUR MATCH.

OKAY. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SET ASIDE.

GOOD NEWS. THAT'S GREAT.

HOW ABOUT THE ORIGINAL 635 OR ARE WE WORKING ON THAT? WHICH ONE IS THAT? 635, IS THAT HERITAGE ROAD? YES, THAT ONE'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

THEY ACTUALLY CLOSED IT TODAY.

THEY'RE REPLACING THE BEAMS AND THE DECK.

OKAY. AND I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PUMP HOUSE.

I HAD REACHED OUT TO MISS BRYANT.

ANY IDEA HOW LONG THE DETOUR IS SCHEDULED TO BE? I THINK IT'S WELL, HERITAGE IS THROUGH THE 25TH, BUT I WANT TO SAY.

PUMP HOUSE IS NOVEMBER.

I'LL VERIFY ON THAT.

YOU KNOW FOR SURE. YEAH, PLEASE.

BECAUSE A LOT OF MY CHURCH MEMBERS TRAVEL THROUGH THERE AND THEY'VE BEEN ASKING ME EVERY SUNDAY.

SO. OKAY, I'LL VERIFY THAT AND SHOOT YOU AN EMAIL IF THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I'M GOOD. THANK YOU.

YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

YOU TOO. TAKE CARE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WE HAVE NO POSTPONED ITEMS.

[ORDER OF BUSINESS]

A1 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICE TO APPLY FOR A CAMERA.

FOUNDATION PROJECT.

SO IS THAT THE SAME AS THE ONE WE ADDED FOR A6? NO. NO. OKAY.

JUST MAKING SURE. A6 IS A CAMERA.

THIS IS CAMERON CAMERON FOUNDATION.

GOT YOU. AND JOHN RANDOLPH FOUNDATION.

GOT YOU MORE AND MORE.

OKAY. YEAH.

EVENING. EVENING, CHAIRMAN HUNTER.

FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS MISSY, ROD AND MR. STOKE. ON APRIL 20TH, NEXT YEAR, IN COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WILL HOST A TODDLER FAIR TO HELP BUY THE SUPPLIES FOR THE TODDLER FAIR.

[01:15:03]

WE WILL USE THESE FUNDS TO PAY FOR MARKETING DOOR PRIZES, OTHER NECESSITIES TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE VENDORS IN PLACE AND ALL THE FUN THINGS FOR THE CHILDREN.

SO THERE ARE TWO GRANTS.

ONE IS THE CAMERON FOUNDATION PROJECT PROGRAM.

THAT GRANT IS $1,500 AND ALSO THE JOHN RANDOLPH FOUNDATION COMMUNITY GRANT IS $1,500. SO I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU TO ASK PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS.

THERE IS NO LOCAL MATCH REQUIRED.

I'M GOOD WITH IT. YES, NO PROBLEM.

THAT'S AN EASY ONE. OH, YEAH, THAT'S EASY.

I THINK WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT, IF YOU LIKE, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT WAS SO EASY.

YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT A RESOLUTION TO DEPARTMENT TO GET THE CAMERON FOUNDATION PROJECT AND THE JOHN RANDOLPH FOUNDATION COMMUNITY FOR THE BACK TO BACK TO SCHOOL.

IS IT A TODDLER FAIR? YEAH, WE USED TO HAVE THAT YEARS AGO TOO, BUT IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT COME BACK INTO PLAY.

GOOD JOB. EXCITED ABOUT IT.

SO. ALL RIGHT, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO RE-APPROPRIATE 293,049 .59 OUTSTANDING.

JUNE 30TH, 2023 ENCUMBRANCE PURCHASED.

YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS.

WITH THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 23 AND THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR 24, WE BRING TO YOU OUR RE APPROPRIATION REQUESTS FOR PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WERE OUTSTANDING ON JUNE 30TH.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECT AND SUPPLIES THAT WERE UNFULFILLED ON JUNE 30TH.

SOMETIMES IT'S DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ORDERS.

SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A LENGTHY LEAD TIME ON GETTING CERTAIN ITEMS. SO WE DO ASK THAT YOU RE-APPROPRIATE OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $293,049.59. THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THAT IS $238,798.29. ATTACHMENT A PROVIDES YOU A LISTING OF THOSE 25 PURCHASE ORDERS AND THE VENDOR INFORMATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

BUT AGAIN, THE GENERAL FUND PIECE OF THAT IS 238 798 29 WITH A SMALL AMOUNT IN THE UTILITIES OPERATING AND REPLACEMENT RESERVE FUNDS. THE BOARD MAY BE AWARE THAT CAPITAL PROJECTS AUTOMATICALLY RE-APPROPRIATE IN BOTH YOUR COUNTYWIDE CIP FUND AND MR. HALTOM MS UTILITY CAPITAL FUND.

ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDS SUCH AS ARPA AND SOME OTHER GRANTS THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATION LANGUAGE IN THAT THOSE GRANTS CONTINUE UNTIL THEY'RE EXPENDED SO THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN CORRECT ATTACHMENT B PROVIDES THOSE AMOUNTS TO YOU, THOSE 32 PURCHASE ORDERS THAT AUTOMATICALLY RE-APPROPRIATE.

BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE PART OF THE RESIDENTS, CORRECT? NO, SIR. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT A 293 49 AND $0.59 ENCUMBRANCE PURCHASE ORDERS. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO REMOVED.

GOT A MOTION? HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

NEXT IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR RE APPROPRIATION OF $2,180,863.23 FOR UNEXPENDED SCHOOL STATE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS.

MS. DREWRY.

YES, SIR. THE SCHOOL DIVISION DOCTOR PENNY CUFF AND MISS BARNES PROVIDED INFORMATION TO US REGARDING SOME STATE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS THAT WERE RECEIVED DURING FY 23, BUT A PORTION OF THOSE REMAINED UNEXPENDED ON JUNE 30TH.

2,180,800. 200.

SORRY, $2,180,863.23 REMAINED UNEXPENDED ON JUNE 30TH.

[01:20:06]

THEY ARE. THE REAPPROPRIATION OF THIS MAGNITUDE DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS 1% OF YOUR ADOPTED FY 24 BUDGET.

SO THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE A SEPTEMBER 12TH PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT RE APPROPRIATION.

DOCTOR PENTICOFF AND MISS BARNES ARE BOTH IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU HAD SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOLLOWING THAT PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REAPPROPRIATION OF THAT 2.18 MILLION WITHIN THE CAPITAL OUTLAY CATEGORY OF THE SCHOOL BUDGET.

AND BOTH OF THOSE ARE BROKE DOWN IN THE PAPERWORK WE HAVE, THE HVAC IS 2.149 AND IN THE 31,000 FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE MOBILE.

. EDUCATIONAL COTTAGES, YES, SIR.

YES. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE PROPER TERMINOLOGY, BUT ANYHOW, SO THAT THAT BREAKDOWN AND THIS IS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S NOT FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION ON TONIGHT.

SO WE JUST NEED AUTHORIZED AUTHORIZATION TO ADVERTISE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED. HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE AUTHORIZED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COMPLETE AND SUBMIT.

I'M SORRY. ACCEPTING HAMPTON I JUMPED RIGHT BY YOU, MR. HALTOM, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD ENOUGH OF YOU.

BUT, MR. HALTOM, I APOLOGIZE. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE HEARD THAT IN MY LIFE? RESOLUTION ACCEPTING HAMPTON IN WATER AGREEMENT, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I THINK. YES.

HORIZON PARTNERS, LLC IS THE OWNER OF HAMPTON INN ON SOUTH CRATER ROAD, AND THE COUNTY HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT BACK IN 2005 TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO OPERATE THE OWNER'S WATER FACILITIES FOR OUR PUBLIC SYSTEM.

THOSE FACILITIES INCLUDE 125,000 GALLON ABOVE GROUND STORAGE TANK, THE WELL HOUSE AS WELL AS THE EXISTING WELL THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDES THE WATER SUPPLY FOR THE PUBLIC SYSTEM.

THAT OWNER HAS MADE PLANS TO CONSTRUCT AN ADDITION ONTO THE HAMPTON INN.

AND AS PART OF THEIR PLANS, THEY'RE REQUESTING US TO TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE FACILITIES SHOULD THEY BE ABLE TO FIND SOME ADDITIONAL AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS TO MEET THEIR FIRE SUPPRESSION NEEDS, THE EXISTING WATER FACILITIES THAT ARE ON SITE, WHICH IS THAT THAT EXISTING TANK.

AND THERE'S ALSO A VERY LARGE FIRE PUMP INSIDE THE WELL HOUSE IS CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED TO SERVE THEIR FIRE SUPPRESSION NEEDS.

SO THERE'S A VERY BIG THERE'S A BALANCE IN THERE THAT WE HAVE TO USE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T AFFECT THEIR FIRE SUPPRESSION.

AT THE SAME TIME, TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE DEMANDS FOR OUR PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS VERY GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE THEIR FIRE SUPPRESSION FROM THE PUBLIC SYSTEM.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS, PER THEIR APPROVED PLANS, THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND THAT AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION.

SO THEY HAVE NOW COME AND ASKED US TO TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE.

WITH THE HELP OF MR. ERARD, WE'VE DEVELOPED AN AGREEMENT TO IDENTIFY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER THOSE WATER FACILITIES.

AND THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE THEY MUST MAINTAIN OR FIRST DO AN INSPECTION OF THE TANK AND THEN BASED OFF THAT INSPECTION, THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THE REPAIRS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THAT REPORT.

AND THEN REGARDLESS OF THE REPORT, THEY ARE TO PAINT THE INTERIOR OF THAT TANK, TO BRING THAT UP TO CURRENT COUNTY STANDARDS AS FAR AS THE WATER SYSTEM.

SO IF THEY MEET THOSE TERMS AND THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO IT, THEN WE WOULD ACCEPT THOSE CONDITIONS AND ACCEPT THAT THOSE FACILITIES INTO THE PUBLIC SYSTEM AND THEN TAKE OVER MAINTENANCE FROM THEN ON.

SO YOU HAVE A COPY OR A DRAFT OF THAT AGREEMENT.

THEY HAVE JUST RECEIVED THAT AGREEMENT JUST EARLY THIS WEEK, I BELIEVE, OR EXCUSE ME, LAST WEEK.

AND THEY ARE STILL REVIEWING IT THEMSELVES.

BUT WE LIKE FOR FOR THE RESOLUTION TO ALLOW THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ACT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT SHOULD THOSE TERMS BE ACCEPTED.

OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND THE RESOLUTION.

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SO THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK.

I WOULD ASK THE BOARD THAT IF THEY ARE AGREEABLE TO SOME MINOR CHANGES.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR A CONTRACT TO BE APPROVED.

AS TO FORM, WE REALLY DON'T ANTICIPATE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES AS THE TERMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT ARE THE ONES THAT THEY ALREADY AGREED TO IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. HALTOM. CERTAINLY IF THERE WAS SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT OR SUBSTANTIVE, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

OKAY. WITH THAT IN MIND, TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE AGREEMENT TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE HAMPTON INN WATER FACILITIES.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL SECOND IT.

A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW A FIVE, AUTHORIZED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COMPLETE AND SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR A GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE STAFFING RECOGNITION FUNDING.

$50,000. WELL, MR. CHAIR, HOPEFULLY I'M A BREATH OF FRESH AIR AFTER MR. HALTOM. MR. HALTOM IS ALWAYS A FRESH.

THAT WAS THAT WAS A ZINGER FOREVER.

THAT WAS A ZINGER. YEAH.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MR. STOKE, MS. ERARD, YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR A VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT [INAUDIBLE] GRANT.

THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT FOR OUR ECC.

THIS PROGRAM IS FOR STAFFING RECOGNITION FUNDING.

THE FUNDING DOES NOT REQUIRE A LOCAL MATCH, AND THE APPLICATION IS REQUESTING FUNDING TOTALING UP TO $50,000.

THE GRANT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO RECOGNIZE COMMUNICATION OFFICERS IN THE ONGOING NATIONAL STAFFING CRISIS AND THAT CRISIS RIGHT NOW NATIONALLY IS 30% VACANCY RATE AND OUR ECC CENTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

OURS, WELL HAVE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE HAVE TWO CURRENT VACANCIES, THREE IN TRAINING.

SO THAT'S FIVE OUT OF 17 UNAVAILABLE TO OUR PUBLIC, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 30%.

SO IT'S. YOU KNOW HOW YOU LOOK AT IT IN LINE WITH THE NATIONAL STAFFING CRISIS.

THESE FUNDS, IF AWARDED, WOULD BE 2500.

YOU COULD CALL IT RETENTION PAY RECOGNITION PAY, 2500 FOR EACH FULL TIME DISPATCHER.

IT'S 17 OF THOSE AND SIX PART TIMERS AT 1250 FOR A TOTAL OF $50,000.

THE REQUEST IS TO PAY THESE THE RECOGNITION PAY IN TWO EQUAL INSTALLMENTS IN NOVEMBER OF 2023 AND MARCH OF 2024.

IF AWARDED, THE AWARD PERIOD IS SEPTEMBER 14TH OF THIS YEAR THROUGH JUNE 30TH OF NEXT YEAR, 2024.

IF THE GRANT FUNDS ARE AWARDED THE COUNTY, I'LL COME BACK TO THIS.

I'M SORRY, MISS MS..

DREWRY, BUT IF THE GRANT.

IF THE FUNDS ARE AWARDED, THE COUNTY MUST ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO PAY THESE EMPLOYEE BONUSES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE OF VIRGINIA SECTION 152 TO 1508 ADOPTION OF SUCH AN ORDINANCE REQUIRES ADVERTISING AND CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF VICTIM AWARDS, THESE GRANT FUNDS STAFF WILL MAKE A REQUEST TO APPROPRIATE THE GRANT FUNDING AND ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE REQUIRED ORDINANCE TO PAY EMPLOYEE BONUSES. I WILL ADD THE VIRGINIA GUIDELINES.

VICTIM GUIDELINES DO NOT SAY BONUS ANYWHERE IN IT, BUT I'M GUESSING THAT CAME FROM MAYBE IT WAS VETTED BY MS. ERARD. I THINK THEY WERE CAREFUL IN THEIR LANGUAGE.

SO IF IT'S VIEWED AS A BONUS, WE HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU.

BUT THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S NOT IN THE GUIDELINES.

THE DUE DATE AGAIN IS FOR APPLICATION IS AUGUST 15TH, AND WE'RE REQUESTING THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE US TO APPLY FOR THE FUNDS, THE 50,000 FUNDS WITH NO LOCAL MATCH. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A ONE TIME THING.

SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE SALARY BASELINES? CORRECT. IT'S THEY CALL IT RECOGNITION AND RETENTION.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

OKAY. IN OTHER WORDS, THANKS FOR STAYING.

WE'LL DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP OUR FANTASTIC ECC EMPLOYEES AND TO ATTRACT THEM AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY. I'M ALL RIGHT.

WELL, YOUR REQUEST ARE CHEAPER THAN MR. HALTOM, SO. YES, SIR.

YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I'LL MOVE.

WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION.

THEY HAVE A SECOND. THE.

I'M SORRY. AND I SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

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NOW WE HAVE A6, IS THE DSS AGAIN.

BUT IT'S NOT THE CAMERON FOUNDATION, BUT IT'S CAMERAS.

SO THAT'S TO STAND CORRECTED.

SO AT ANY RATE, IT'S.

YES. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO GO HOME.

THE INFORMATION.

THIS IS AN UPDATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

YES, GOOD EVENING. THIS IS TO ADDRESS THE REQUEST FOR A CAMERA SECURITY SYSTEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

WE ARE REQUESTING THE COST OF THE SYSTEM IS $25,612, BUT THE LOCAL SHARE IS $3,969.86.

SO I'M REQUESTING THAT THE FUNDS BE UTILIZED FROM FOR CONTINGENCY, FROM CONTINGENCY TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE SECURITY SYSTEM.

THE SECURITY SYSTEM IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PROVIDES A SENSE OF SAFETY FOR STAFF.

AS I SPOKE EARLIER, SOME OF THE THREATS HAVE INCREASED.

WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF MEDICAID UNWINDING WHERE, ACCORDING TO REGULATIONS, WE ARE HAVING TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF MEDICAID WHO HAVE CONTINUED TO RECEIVE THOSE BENEFITS WITHOUT HAVING TO CONTINUE TO QUALIFY DURING THE PANDEMIC. WE'RE ALSO JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CASES THAT WE ADDRESS AND THE SERIOUSNESS IN NATURE AND THE OVERALL THE UNHAPPINESS OF STAFF.

SO I AM REQUESTING THE TIMING OF THIS JUST KIND OF CAME NEAR THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU REQUESTING THAT YOU APPROVE THIS REQUEST FOR A SECURITY CAMERA FOR DSS.

IN ADDITION, I THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE LAST BUILDINGS TO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS INSTALLED ON OUT ON THE COUNTY COMPLEX. SO THE THE MATCH IS 15.5%.

AND AS I SAID, IT'S $3,969.86 WITH REVENUE BEING $21,624.14.

VERY GOOD. AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TAKEN FROM THE CONTINGENCY.

AND WITH THAT IN MIND, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I JUST HAVE ONE THING FOR OUR I.T.

DIRECTOR WHO HOW IS THIS JUST GOING TO WORK? IS THIS JUST A CAMERA THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST RUNNING ALL THE TIME, OR IS THIS NEEDING TO BE MANAGED BY SOMEONE OR ARE WE.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT.

SO THE CAMERAS WILL BE SET UP TO POINT IN AREAS WHERE THE PUBLIC WOULD COME TO THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

IT WILL CONTINUOUSLY RUN.

OKAY. AND THERE IS A PERIOD OF OVERWRITE.

SO I CAN'T QUOTE FOR SURE WHETHER IT'S TWO WEEKS OR A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAT.

IT WILL RECORD AND IT WILL THEN BEGAN TO OVERWRITE ITSELF.

OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S VIDEO.

NOT AUDIO THOUGH, RIGHT? NO AUDIO.

VIDEO. YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

I KNOW IT WAS DISCUSSED QUITE A BIT EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION AND THEN AGAIN, SO IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE SOME MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ACCEPT.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

CALL THE ROLL.

A GOOD NIGHT? THANK YOU.

NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN TILL SEPTEMBER THE 12TH.

AT THIS TIME, IT'LL BE 5:00 O'CLOCK.

SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, STAND ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.