>> IT IS NOT GOING TO LET YOU GO. TRUST ME.
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>> IT'S 05:00 ON THE 13TH OF JUNE.
WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAKING THE REQUEST TO GEORGE COUNTY.
MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> FIRST THING WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA IS TO CLOSE
[CLOSED SESSION]
SESSION AND OBTAIN A MOTION TO GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION.>> MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSES.
ONE, VIRGINIA CODE, SECTION 2.2-3711A1, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF THE PERFORMANCE OF SPECIFIC APPOINTEE OF THE BOARD AND THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION FOR INTERVIEWING OF CANDIDATE FOR THE POSITION OF COUNTY ATTORNEY.
TWO, VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2-3711A3, FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THE POSSIBLE SALE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSES OF ENCOURAGING THE LOCATION OF A BUSINESS IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BECAUSE DISCUSSION AND OPEN MEETING WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OR BARGAINING POSITION OF THE BOARD.
THREE, VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2-3711A5 FOR DISCUSSION CONCERNING A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY BECAUSE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE OF THE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY'S INTEREST IN LOCATING ITS FACILITY IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY MANUFACTURING PROCESSING FACILITY. THAT'S MY MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL?
>> YES. WE'LL BE IN CLOSED SESSION.
>> CALL THE BOARD BACK TO ORDER.
I NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, SIR.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH BOARD MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS WAS DISCUSSED AND ONLY MATTERS IDENTIFIED AND CONVENING MOTION WERE DISCUSSED.
>> A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
[WORK SESSION]
WE HAVE A WORK SESSION.THE WATER, LAND DISCUSSING CONNECTION FEES, MR. HULKER?
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN HUNTER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> GOOD EVENING, [OVERLAPPING].
AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE EXTENDING ABOUT 4.5 MILES OF 12-INCH WATER MAIN FROM THE MEADOWS ON SANDY RIDGE OUT TO THE ROUTE TANK CORRIDOR RESERVE.
BOTH THE BEACH WOULD MAKE A SUBDIVISION THAT JOIN ON THE JAMES AND EAGLE PRESERVE.
IN DOING SO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO CONNECT TO THIS WATER MAIN.
TONIGHT, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS ON A POTENTIAL DISCOUNT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO CONNECT TO THE WATER MAIN ITSELF.
JUST VERY BRIEFLY, AS WE WAIT FOR THIS TO COME UP, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT.
OUR ORDINANCE DOES NOW STATE THAT THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES WHO ARE ADEQUATELY SERVED BY THEIR WELL SYSTEM IS NOT REQUIRED TO CONNECT.
THOSE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT WOULD BE THOSE THAT ARE BUILT IN THE FUTURE.
ANY NEW HOMES THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED, BUSINESSES ALONG THIS ROUTE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT NOW THAT THE WATER MAIN IS IN PLACE.
BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR EXISTING HOMES TO CONNECT.
>> HOW ABOUT ONES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT ALREADY GOT THEIR PERMIT?
>> IF THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THEIR PERMIT AND THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED OR STARTED DOING THE DRILLING OF THEIR WELL, THEN THEY'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN IT.
THAT'S THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT. IF THEY'VE ALREADY HAD ANY INVESTMENT INTO IT, ANY OTHER WELL SYSTEM OR WATER SYSTEM, THEN THEY CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN THAT FASHION.
>> ALL WITHIN THEIR FINANCING BUDGET OF BUILDING THEIR HOME?
>> IF THEY RECEIVED A PERMIT, THAT MEANS THAT THEY EITHER TALKED TO US OR THEY TALKED TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
IF THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE APPROVALS THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEN THEY'VE INVESTED IN THAT FASHION.
>> WHERE IS THIS WATER SOURCE FROM? IS IT ARWA?
>> THIS IS THE ARWA, APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY WATER, YES.
>> I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I WAS RIGHT.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME, AND I TOLD HIM I THOUGHT IT WAS.
>> AS OF JULY 22ND, OUR CONNECTION FEES HAVE INCREASED FROM $3,000-$4,000.
I WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE WE HAD SOME RECENT WATER MAIN EXTENSIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE SOME DISCOUNTS IN THE PAST, THAT WE HAVE DONE A 50% CONNECTION FEE ON.
THAT'S THE ROUTE 460 EXTENSION AND THE ROUTE 156 WATERLINE EXTENSION.
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BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS, WE ALLOWED EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO RECEIVE A 50% DISCOUNT OF THAT CONNECTION FEE, REPRESENTING A $1,500 SAVINGS.I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.
BUT IN OUR COUNTY ORDINANCE, WE ONLY ALLOW DISCOUNTS IF THEY MEET THESE THREE CRITERIA.
IT HAS TO BE FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
THE APPLICATION HAS TO BE MADE WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE PROJECT BEING COMPLETED, MEANING THE WATER MAIN HAS TO BECOME AVAILABLE AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CONNECT.
ANY CHARGES AND FEES THAT THEY HAVE MUST BE PAID WITHIN TWO YEARS.
IF THEY WANT TO CONNECT, THEY HAD TO PAY THAT CONNECTION FEE WITHIN A TWO-YEAR PERIOD.
WHEN WE SEND OUT NOTICES, AND FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO CONNECT WILL BE INCLUDING ALL THIS INFORMATION SO THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DISCOUNT.
I JUST MENTIONED THE TWO RECENT WATERLINE PROJECTS, BUT NOW WE HAVE, WITH THIS PROJECT, ROUGHLY 54 RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT ALREADY EXIST ALONG THIS WATER MAIN.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING LETTERS OUT TO THOSE HOMES, AND MAKING THEM AWARE OF AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MAY EXIST.
AGAIN, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS CONSIDERATIONS AND WHAT I'M GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING AS FAR AS THE DISCOUNT, I'M LOOKING AT, HAVE THOSE EXISTING HOMES ALREADY INVEST IN THEIR PRIVATE WATER SUPPLY.
IF THEY HAVE, THEN THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED, OBVIOUSLY.
THOSE HOMEOWNERS, IF THEY JUST BUILT A NEW WELL SYSTEM, THEY PROBABLY HAVE NO DESIRE TO CONNECT AND INVEST IN ADDITIONAL FUNDS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST THAT THEY CONNECT WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THIS PROJECT BEING DONE.
WE DO EXPECT THIS PROJECT TO BE DONE, AND WE'VE GIVEN THE CONTRACTOR A YEAR-AND-A-HALF TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN FINISH THAT PROJECT WITHIN LESS THAN A YEAR.
AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE IS WHEN WE WE'LL BE SENDING OUT NOTIFICATIONS FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS TO CONNECT IF THEY CHOOSE TO RECEIVE THE DISCOUNT.
AGAIN, THE DISCOUNTS, HOPEFULLY, WILL INCENTIVIZE SOME CUSTOMERS TO CONNECT SOONER THAN LATER.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, ANY NEW CONNECTION WILL ADD ABOUT $420 A YEAR, THAT'S BASED OFF THE AVERAGE 5,000 GALLONS PER MONTH.
THAT'S ALMOST THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD EXPECT ANY NEW CUSTOMER TO ADD TO OUR OPERATING BUDGET.
DEPENDING ON, IF IT'S AT $1,500 CREDIT OR $2,000 CREDIT, IT COULD TAKE 3.5-5 YEARS TO RECOVER THOSE CONNECTION FEES THAT WE ARE DISCOUNTING.
BASED ON EXISTING HOMES THAT ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, WE DON'T EXPECT TO SEE A WHOLE LOT OF FOLKS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
BUT THOSE THAT WILL PROBABLY BE EXPERIENCING SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR WELL.
THEY MAY HAVE OLDER WELLS OR THEY JUST DON'T LIKE THE QUALITY OF WATER THEY'RE GETTING FROM THEIR WELL NOW.
SOME DISCOUNTS ARE PERCEIVED AS A FUTURE LOSS.
IF WE GIVE A DISCOUNT NOW, WE JUST HOLD OUT AND WAIT FOR THEM TO PAY THE CONNECTION FEES WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY NEED IT, THEN WE'RE GIVING UP THAT $1,500 OR $2,000, WHATEVER DISCOUNT WE PROVIDE AS FUTURE REVENUES FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
CONNECTION FEES IN OUR BUDGET TYPICALLY GO TOWARD OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.
THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT THERE COULD BE SOME FUTURE REVENUES, WHERE I CAN PROMISE THAT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE HIT.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE WATERLINE IS NOT NECESSARILY TO ADD NEW CONNECTIONS IN THIS CASE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS WATERLINE IS TO TAKE TWO WELL SYSTEMS THAT ARE NEEDING OF HIGH MAINTENANCE.
WE ALREADY SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN COST TRYING TO MAINTAIN THOSE TWO WELL SYSTEMS. OUR PURPOSE IS NOT TO GAIN NEW CUSTOMERS, IS TO TAKE THOSE TWO SYSTEMS OFFLINE AND PROVIDE A BETTER SOURCE OF WATER.
THIS BECOMES MORE OF A, CAN WE GET SOME NEW CUSTOMERS ALONG THE WAY AS WE TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE THAT MIGHT HAVE A NEED.
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WRONG WORD, GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CUSTOMERS THAT MIGHT BE IN A BAD STATE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT.
I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE STICK WITH THE SAME AMOUNTS, NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME PERCENTAGE.
I'M RECOMMENDING WE STAY WITH THE SAME AMOUNT WE'VE ALREADY OFFERED THOSE CUSTOMERS ALONG ROUTE 460 AND ROUTE 56.
WE OFFER THEM A 50% DISCOUNT THEN, WHICH EQUAL TO $1,500.
IN THIS CASE, THAT $1,500 ONLY REPRESENTS A 37.5% DISCOUNT SINCE OUR CONNECTION FEES HAVE GONE UP.
IN THIS CASE, WE'LL BE REQUIRING $2,500 AND THEN THE BOARD CAN CHOOSE TO GO TO 50%, IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE.
BUT THIS DISCOUNT, AGAIN, ONLY APPLIES IF THEY ACTUALLY CONNECT WITHIN 60 DAYS OF IT BEING AVAILABLE.
AGAIN, OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS A DISCOUNT ONLY FOR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
ANY OTHER USAGE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE FULL AMOUNT.
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ANY FUTURE HOMES THAT ARE BUILT ALONG THIS WATERLINE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO PAY THAT FULL AMOUNT.I GAVE SOME COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT CONNECTION FEE MIGHT LOOK LIKE ON THEIR WATER BILL OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD.
THEY'LL BE PAYING AN EXTRA $208 ON THEIR BIMONTHLY BILL FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS IF THEY DON'T CHOOSE TO PAY IT ALL UP FRONT.
AGAIN, IF WE GIVE A 50% DISCOUNT, THAT REDUCES IT DOWN TO $167 EVERY BI-MONTHLY BILL.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH THE $1,500 DISCOUNT.
>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY.
>> I TAKE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS HERE.
>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT MY COMMENT WOULD BE, I HEAR YOU MENTIONED THE 1,500.
BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY LEAN TO THE 50% BECAUSE THEN THAT'S BEING CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DID ALONG THE OTHER ROUTES.
PEOPLE TEND TO LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY WHEN AT LEAST YOU'RE BEING CONSISTENT AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH REVERSE THE SAYING.
WELL, BECAUSE WE WENT UP WHEN I'M DOING 50%, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A FLAT RATE, A FLAT NUMBER.
THAT WOULD JUST BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
>> OTHER COMMENTS? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR?
>> I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS ON THE BOARD ON THE AMOUNT.
IF THE BOARD WANTS TO DO A DISCOUNT, WHICH I WOULD RECOMMEND IS WE DO A DISCOUNT.
IF YOU WANT TO DO A NUMBER OF BEYOND THE 1,500, JUST ASK FOR A CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD OF WHICH NUMBER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MR. BROWN HAD MENTIONED ONE MORE TIME.
>> WHAT I WAS SAYING IS WHEN WE DID THE OTHER ROUTES 460, WE GAVE A 50% DISCOUNT.
>> WHAT WAS THAT CONNECTION FEE?
>> AT THAT TIME I THINK IT WAS WORTH THE 1,500, RIGHT?
>> NOW, BECAUSE WE WENT UP IN COST OR IN THAT CONNECTION FEE, IF WE DID THE 50%, IT WOULD BE 2,000, RIGHT?
>> BUT MR. HALTOM WAS RECOMMENDING USING THE FLAT $1,500, WHICH IS ABOUT A 37%, 37 PLUS DISCOUNT.
ALL I WAS SAYING WAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER SITUATIONS.
>> SYSTEM FAR AS PERCENTAGE WISE?
>> DON'T YOU THINK THE COUNTY WOULD BE, WOULD YOU GIVE $1,500 ON 460?
50% WAS THE PERCENTAGE THAT REPRESENTED $1,500.
>> IT WAS 50% OF WHAT THE CONNECTION FEE WAS, AT THAT TIME.
ALL I'M SAYING IS IT SHOULD BE 50% OF WHATEVER THE CONNECTION FEE IS NOW.
BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I'M ONLY ONE.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WOULD BE MORE OF THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN CONSTITUENTS.
BOTH PROJECTS WOULD IT BE A DOLLAR FIGURE OR WOULD IT BE A PERCENTAGE? WHICH ONE WOULD BE MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH THE TOP GOING BACK-AND-FORTH? WOULD THEY WANT THE SAME DOLLAR FIGURE AS A DISCOUNT, OR WOULD THEY BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT A PERCENTAGE?
>> AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT IT MORE FROM PERCENTAGE CONSISTENCY.
>> PRETTY MUCH IT STATES THAT, WITH THE CURRENT INCREASE AT ALL, WHAT USED TO BE 50% IS NOW AND EVALUATE 37.5.
WAY I'M LOOKING AT, I PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE HE'S COMING FROM.
FOR SOMEBODY WHO HADN'T BEEN FOLLOWING ALL OF THIS, THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THE FIRST DISCUSSION, I'D BE INCLINED TO AGREE WITH MR. BROWN THAT KEEP IT AT 50% IS CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> IF WE WENT UP IN RATES AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT SAME 50% BUT THAT 37.5 WOULD BE LESS IF WE KEPT DOING IT BY USING UNCERTAIN A DOLLAR FIGURE.
>> YOU'RE ACTUALLY GAINING IF YOU GO TO THE 50% BENEFIT FROM THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.
>> WELL, THAT'D BE BENEFITING A DAY IN THAT THEY WOULD BE GETTING A $2,000 DISCOUNT INSTEAD OF A $1,500 DISCOUNT.
>> THAT DIFFERENCE MIGHT ENTICE SOMEONE TO GO AHEAD AND CONNECT, VERSUS I'M GOING TO BE PAYING 200 AND SOME DOLLARS A MONTH OR EVERY BILL FOR TWO YEARS VERSUS A 100 AND SOMETHING BEING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 1,500 AND THE 2,000.
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>> I THINK 50% DISCOUNT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT OF A STANDARD FOR YEARS PAST.
I KNOW WHEN THEY WENT DOWN TO COURTHOUSE ROAD, IT GAVE A 50% DISCOUNT.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AND LIKE MR. BROWN SAID IT, INSTEAD OF SOME ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD OFFSET THE LOSS REVENUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AND GIVEN THE 50% RATHER THAN THE 37.5%.
>> THAT WOULD BE MY VOTE, THE 50%.
>> I'LL TAKE THAT AS A CONSENSUS FOR 50% AS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WILL SEND OUT NOTICES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO ALL THOSE ALONG THE ROUTE, OFFERING UP FOR 50% DISCOUNT AND LET THEM KNOW THE CRITERIA TO BE ELIGIBLE.
>> GOT IT. FLIP THAT PAGE FOR ME. THE SESSION ITEM IS A DISCUSSION.
BOARD PROCEED FROM THE FIRE EMS PROJECT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE, AND MS. ERARD.
WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE THIS EVENING A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND WITH YOUR SERIES 2019 BOND PROCEEDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY BORROWED TO CONSTRUCT A NEW JEFFERSON PARK FIRE STATION.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, 3.2 MILLION WAS THE AMOUNT INCLUDED IN THAT BOND SERIES TO BUILD A NEW STATION 5.
DUE TO THE POTENTIAL COST OF THAT NEW STATION, IT WAS HIGH WHEN OUR ARCHITECT WAS GIVING FINAL ESTIMATES, THE BOARD DETERMINED THAT A RENOVATION OF THE STATION WAS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE.
THE UNEXPANDED BOND PROCEEDS WERE REPURPOSED DURING A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE RESOLUTION IS MENTIONED THERE AND A COPY OF THAT RESOLUTION WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, AND ALL OF THIS IS BEHIND TAB 5.
AGAIN, WHAT WAS BORROWED WAS 3.2.
WE DID SPEND NEARLY 51,000 ON DESIGN WITH THE ARCHITECT, HBA ARCHITECTS, AND PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ORDERED FOR THAT STATION IN ANTICIPATION OF A NEW STATION.
WHAT REMAINED ON HAND WAS ABOUT 3.15 MILLION.
THIS PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF WHAT WAS BORROWED, THE AMOUNT SPENT ON DESIGN AND THE COMPRESSOR PURIFIER, AND THEN TO DATE, WHAT HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED FOR JEFFERSON PARK RENOVATION AND STATION 8 ELECTRICAL UPGRADES.
THE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE JEFFERSON PARK STATION RENOVATION WERE $100,500.
THEN ROOF REPLACEMENT WAS AWARDED IN NOVEMBER TO J.
SWIPE ENTRY WAS AWARDED TO DOMINION LOCK.
ALSO IN NOVEMBER FOR $14,322.15.
THEN IN MAY AT YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU AWARDED PHASE 1 RENOVATIONS TO CENTENNIAL, INCLUDING A SMALL CONTINGENCY FOR $192,500.
FOR STATION 5 TO DATE, $332,736.08 HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED FOR RENOVATIONS.
THE ITEMS THAT ARE FLAGGED IN RED WITH NO DOLLAR AMOUNTS, MR. SIMMONS AND CHIEF BEAMON WE'LL COME FORWARD AFTER I FINISH WITH THIS SLIDE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT POTENTIAL OTHER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED AT JEFFERSON PARK AND AT STATION 8.
THE BLUE SHADING STATION 8 TO DATE, WE HAVE AWARDED DESIGN TO DJG FOR $37,892.25.
THEN FRAZIER WAS AWARDED THE ELECTRICAL UPGRADE AWARD FOR $106,928.
OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WERE ALSO INCLUDED, TANK AND OTHER MINOR ITEMS FOR 13,500.
MR. SIMMONS WILL BE REQUESTING TONIGHT, $19,710 APPROPRIATION OR TRANSFER TO MAKE A MODIFICATION FOR AS
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A GENERATOR THAT WE HAVE ON HAND TO CONVERT IT TO A THREE-PHASE GENERATOR BY MODIFYING THE ALTERNATOR.WITH THAT $178,030.25, WILL HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED IF YOU IN FACT APPROVE THAT ITEM THIS EVENING.
WHAT REMAINS WITHOUT CONSIDERING ANY OF THOSE RED ITEMS THAT DON'T HAVE DOLLAR AMOUNTS IS 2,638,283.11, WHICH IS AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
AGAIN, MR. SIMMONS AND CHIEF BEAMON WILL COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE AT THE OTHER TWO STATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER RENOVATION, STATION 5 AND STATION 8.
WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON WHETHER TO BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU.
THEN WE'LL ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE REMAINING PROCEEDS AFTER ALL RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE AT STATION 5 AND STATION 8.
WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION.
THE NEXT SLIDE, I'M GOING TO ASK MR. SIMMONS AND CHIEF BEAMON IF THEY WANT TO COME UP AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THESE NEEDS.
>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU BEFORE.
>> WE'RE BOUND TO BE AT THE END AT THE THREE-YEAR MARK ON THAT ONE?
>> YES, SIR. WE'RE PASSED THE ARBITRAGE CALCULATION PERIODS.
SO WHAT OUR BINGHAM & ASSOCIATES WILL DO IS THAT ANNUALLY, THEY WILL DO A CALCULATION TO MAKE SURE OR TO SEE IF OUR INTEREST EARNINGS EXCEED WHAT WE'RE PAYING IN INTEREST PAYMENTS ON THIS DEBT.
IF SO, WE COULD BE SUBJECT TO A PENALTY.
WE DO HAVE SOME INTERESTS THAT IS ACCRUING ON THIS PARTICULAR BOND SERIES SO WE CAN ALWAYS APPROPRIATE THE INTEREST EARNINGS TO PAY ANY ARBITRAGE FEE.
BUT AGAIN, THE EARNED INTEREST RATES ARE NOT VERY HIGH RIGHT NOW.
>> CHAIRMAN, HONOR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MRS. STOKE, MRS. [INAUDIBLE] WHAT I WANT TO GO OVER IS WHAT I SEE IS FOR SAID NEEDS TO THE FIRE STATIONS.
ON THE LAST SLIDE, IT WAS IN THE READ, BUT BOTH OF THESE FIRE STATIONS HAVE WITH THESE STATIONS 5, WE'RE DOING A RENOVATION, WHAT I CALL PHASE 1 OF THE RENOVATION WHEN WE HAD THE PLANS ROLLED UP, IT WAS A RENOVATION FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT.
WE MET AS A TEAM AND SAID, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FIRST AND MOST URGENT.
WE WERE IN PLACE WHERE THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE RIGHT AWAY.
BECAUSE WHEN THE BID CAME IN, WHEN WE SENT IT OUT, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE 215 TIMES WHAT THE AMOUNT WAS EXPECTED TO BE, SO WE DECIDED TO TRY TO DO IT IN HOUSE.
WE'VE SENT IT OUT TO OUR CONTRACTORS ON CALL AND GOT THE BID THAT YOU ALL APPROVED LAST MEETING TO START THE PHASE 1, WHICH IS THE BATHROOMS AND ONE OF THE HVAC SYSTEMS. THE HVAC SYSTEMS IN STATION 5 WERE INSTALLED IN 1993.
THEY ARE THE OLD R12 SYSTEMS WHICH COSTS ABOUT $41.66 A POUND NOW TO CHARGE THEM.
ANYTHING THAT'S R12, I WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT WE RENOVATE AND REPLACE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THESE PROCEEDS GO TO REPLACE AN HVAC UNITS AT STATION 5, ALSO AT STATION 8.
THE UNITS AT STATION 8 ARE BOTH R12 UNITS AND THEY WERE INSTALLED IN 2003, SO THEY'RE OVER 20 YEARS OLD.
OUT OF THESE PROCEEDS, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE USE SOME OF THIS MONEY TOWARDS REPLACING THE AC'S AND AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM IN BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS.
IF BEAMON CAN SPEAK, WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM WITH THE PROCEEDS, BUT THAT IS MY MOST URGENT REQUEST IS TO UPGRADE THESE HVAC SYSTEMS. THE GENERATOR AT STATION 5, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH IT.
WE HAVE SEVERAL GENERATORS OF THE SAME YEAR, BUT LIKE YOU BUY A CAR, YOU CAN BUY A CAR AND YOUR NEIGHBOR BUY A CAR AND YOU CAN NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOURS AND HIS FALLS APART OR VICE VERSA.
SO THE GENERATOR THERE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT REPLACING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
AS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION, I'M LOOKING AT THE GENERATOR THAT I'M REQUESTING THAT WE PUT IN STATION 8 TONIGHT, TAKING THE GENERATOR FROM STATION 8, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS IN PUTTING IT IN STATION 5 TO GET US THROUGH
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UNTIL WE CAN DECIDE HOW WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.THE LAST THING WAS THE KITCHEN UPGRADES, WHICH IS MAINLY COSMETIC.
BUT THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK MORE TO WHAT HE THINKS SHOULD BE UPGRADED IN THE FIRE STATION.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE BAY DOOR REPLACEMENT, YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT.
>> WELL THE BAY DOOR REPLACEMENT, THE BAY DOORS WAS WORTH THEIR GLASS AND IT'S A REQUEST THAT IF WE HAVE THE MONEY, WE CAN REPLACE THEM.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT ALL GLASS AT THE SUN SHINES IN ON THE EQUIPMENT, THE GEAR, AND ALL AND THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.
>> WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE GENERATOR AT STATION 8 IF YOU GOT TO MOVE FROM 8-5.
>> WELL, WE DON'T UPGRADE, WE'D LIKE TO GO UPGRADE AT STATION 8.
WE CHANGED STATION 8 FROM A SINGLE-PHASE SERVICE TO A THREE-PHASE SERVICE, AND WE UPGRADED THE SERVICE.
SO THE GENERATOR THAT'S CURRENTLY AT STATION 8 IS A SINGLE-PHASE GENERATOR.
>> THAT'S THE $19,000 YOU WANT TO PUT INTO A STATION 8 GENERATOR, THAT'S THE SAME WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING TO FIVE?
>> THAT'S A SEPARATE ONE. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE STATION 8 PROJECT, WE HAD A GENERATOR AND I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THE GENERATOR THAT WAS BOUGHT FOR ANOTHER PROJECT YEARS AGO THAT WAS SITTING ON THE POLE SHED THAT LED ME DOWN A ROAD THAT IT WOULD WORK FOR THIS PROJECT.
AS WE GOT READY TO INSTALL IT, THE MANUFACTURER HAD INSTALLED THE WRONG BREAKER IN IT, SO IT SAID IT WAS A THREE-PHASE GENERATOR AND TURN IT WAS A SINGLE-PHASE GENERATOR.
INSTEAD OF PURCHASING A NEW GENERATOR, WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING THE ALTERNATOR TO CONVERT THIS ONE SO WE CAN FINALLY GET IT OUT IN INVENTORY AND BEING USED.
CHANGE IT TO THREE-PHASE, THAT'S WHERE TO GO.
>> AS LONG AS ALL THE OTHER PARTS WITHIN THAT GENERATOR ARE FINE.
>> IT'S ALL BRAND NEW. IT'S NEVER BEEN RUN AND BEEN SEALED UP AND ALSO NOTHING LEADS US TO THE IDEA THAT IT WOULDN'T BE PERFECT.
>> I CAN'T REALLY TOUCH ON MUCH MORE THAN WHAT MR. SIMMONS AND HIS TEAM HAS DONE.
HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB KEEPING THIS WITHIN BUDGET.
HE ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO FIND A LOT OF STUFF.
WHEN DID THE ROOF ACTUALLY AT THE ORIGINAL COST THAT WE HAD INSPECT OUT BEFORE WE DID THIS MASSIVE BID, SO I WANT TO APPLAUD HIM AND HIS TEAM FOR DOING THAT.
THE HVAC SYSTEM REPLACEMENT, I DO AGREE WITH, AS WELL AS THE GENERATOR STATION 5.
GENERATOR HAS BEEN CAUSING US ISSUES FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN DOWN FOR MONTHS NOW, NOT WORKING APPROPRIATELY.
THE BAY DOORS, WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS IT IS AN ALL GLASS BAY DOOR, SO IT IS HEAVY FOR THE SYSTEM, ALTHOUGH IT WORKS JUST FINE RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE BELIEVE BY CONVERTING THAT TO WHERE IT'S GOT LIMITED WINDOWS IN THERE, WE CAN DECREASE THE TEMPERATURE WITHIN THE BAY.
RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO STORAGE PLACES FOR THE TURNOUT GEAR, SO THE SUN COMES DOWN AND HITS THEIR FIREFIGHTER PROTECTIVE GEAR AND DIRECT SUNLIGHT IS A NO FOR THAT, IT DEGRADES THE MATERIAL.
IT'S A MORE OF A, THE DOORS WORK FINE.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE COST SAVINGS ON THE TEMPERATURE IN THERE AND ALSO PROTECTING OUR EQUIPMENT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THOSE DOORS OUT.
AS FAR AS THE KITCHEN UPGRADES FOR STATION 8, TO ME PERSONALLY, THAT'S JUST SIMPLY COSMETIC.
THE REST OF THEM, I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO FIX THOSE, THE HVAC SYSTEM AND THE GENERATORS.
IN A SEVERE STORM, WE ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON RIGHT NOW AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE GENERATOR WORKING UNTIL THAT WE HAVE POWER AT ONE OF OUR FIRE STATION.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE STATION.
>> I GET THE POINT WITH THE WEIGHT AND THE WINDOWS AND THE GLASS AND THE HEAT, WHAT ABOUT TINT?
>> THERE IS TINT ON IT, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE DONE SO FAR AND WE CAN POTENTIALLY GO BACK AND EVEN POTENTIALLY PUT OUT THE NEW TINT WITH THE CERAMIC COATING TINT.
THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
I'VE ASKED AROUND AND EVEN MR. JONES SAID WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY ISSUES WITH THE DOORS.
THAT IS NOT A MUST, AS I SAID BEFORE, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, BUT WE CAN TINT THE DOORS PROBABLY A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER THAN WE COULD REPLACE THEM.
>> I DID THAT ON THE WINDOWS ALONG THE BACK SIDE OF OUR HOUSE, WE HAD THEM TINTED BECAUSE IT WAS FADING THE FURNITURE. WE'RE GETTING SO MUCH SIGN.
>> THE NEW CERAMIC COAT TINT IS TREMENDOUS. IT DOES WORK WELL.
>> IT'S HEAT REFLECTIVE. I GOT IT ON MY HOUSE.
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>> STATION 8. YOU ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT MODIFICATION OF THE GENERATOR.
I SAID HE'S GOT A BRAND NEW GENERATOR STILL IN PLASTIC READY TO BE OPENED UP.
[LAUGHTER] JUST NEED TO CHANGE THE PHASE.
STATION 8 IS ALSO ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE STATIONS THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE TO HOUSE TURNOUT GEAR, BUT IT'S OPEN TO ALL THE EXHAUST JUST LIKE A LOT OTHER STATIONS.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE SPACE AT STATION 8 TO BUILD A SEPARATE ROOM TO ACTUALLY HOUSE THE TURNOUT GEAR SO THAT THE CARBON MONOXIDE EXHAUST FROM THE APPARATUS WILL NOT CONTAMINATE THEIR TURNOUT GEAR.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO CREATE A STORAGE ROOM FOR THAT, WHICH I DO NOT HAVE AN ACTUAL COST ON IT.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A HUGE ONE, JUST ONE THAT HOLDS 20 SETS OF TURNOUT GEAR.
SO THAT IT'S NOT EXPOSED TO THE EXHAUST, NOT EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS, AND NOW WE DECREASE THE CROSS-CONTAMINATION OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
>> WHEN WILL WE HAVE THE COST OF THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE BLOCKED IN RED?
>> WHEN WILL YOU HAVE THE COST ON THIS OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE BLOCKED OUT IN RED?
>> THAT WILL BE ON MR. SIMMONS. I'M SORRY.
>> WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD FOR TONIGHT IS DIRECTION, I'M OKAY WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH GETTING THE PRICING TO COME BACK WITH A PRICE.
BUT WHAT [NOISE] WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT AS DIRECTION.
TO GET DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.
IF THE BOARD IS OKAY WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH STATION 8, THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND GET PRICING AND RETURN IT FOR YOU ALL'S APPROVAL.
>> WELL, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I HAD ALTERNATIVE REASON FOR ASKING THAT.
WE'VE STILL GOT ANOTHER STATION, STATION 6.
THERE'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THOSE LIVING QUARTERS FOR THOSE GUYS OUT THERE.
>> I THINK THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IS THEY'RE BRINGING UP THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE REST OF THE PROCEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BEING ABLE TO USE THESE PROCEEDS.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY I ASK, BECAUSE NO WAY TO REALLY KNOW THAT UNTIL YOU GET THE COST BACK ON ALL THESE ITEMS.
>> YES, I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. STOKE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M SORRY, I JUMPED AHEAD. I DIDN'T SEE THE SLIDE.
>> ALL I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. STOKE IS, IN A CASE LIKE THIS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THEM FROM GOING HEAD AND GETTING THE COST ESTIMATES ON? WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THOSE ESTIMATES, RIGHT?
>> NO, WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE ESTIMATES.
>> IT JUST SEEMS PRACTICAL TO ME TO COME TO US.
IT'S A WASTED STEP TO HAVE TO COME TO GET A CONSENSUS TO GO GET THE PRICING.
IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, GET THE PRICING AND SAY WE'VE HAD IT LOOKED AT AND HERE'S OUR ESTIMATE AND IT CAN FLUCTUATE, BUT IT JUST SAVES SOME TIME I THINK, THAT'S ALL.
>> THIS WAS SUCH A UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THE BOND PROCEEDS BEING OUT THERE SINCE 2019.
WE DIDN'T KNOW IF MAYBE YOU WANTED TO JUST SHUT DOWN THE IMPROVEMENTS AT FIVE AND EIGHT AND JUST TAKE ALL OF THOSE REMAINING PROCEEDS AND PUSH IT TOWARDS EITHER DO WELL STATION OR STATION 6 EDITION OR LOCAL MATCH FOR THE FOUR GREAT ITEMS.
>> RIGHT, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT STILL IT WOULDN'T HAVE COST US ANYTHING TO GET THE ESTIMATE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WITHOUT KNOWING THE ESTIMATE, I CAN'T SAY YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT OR WE'LL TAKE THE MONEY AND SHIFT IT VERSUS [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT BY NO MEANS WANT TO BE QUOTED ON THIS BASED ON WHAT WE SPENT BEFORE AND WHAT WE'RE SPENDING NOW WITH THE HVAC SYSTEM, THE GENERATORS, ROUGHLY 300,000.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S ALMOST FAIR?
>> YEAH. THAT WOULD GIVE THE WHOLE PART.
>> BUT THAT WOULD STILL [OVERLAPPING]
>> NOT QUOTE, THAT'S JUST AN EDUCATED ESTIMATE.
>> FOR ALL [OVERLAPPING] YOUR HVAC PROBLEMS OR JUST ONE?
[OVERLAPPING] UPGRADE THE UNITS.
>> I'M ALL FOR GOING TO GET SOME FIGURES.
BUT THE SAD THING OF IT IS JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH BUILDING THE NEW FIRE STATION.
WE GOT SLAMMED SO BAD ON THAT.
WE'RE HESITANT TO REALLY COMMIT WITHOUT HAVING SOME FIGURES CERTAIN.
BUT YES, GO FORWARD AND GIVE US SOME [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, GET US PRICES FOR ALL YOUR WISHLIST ITEM.
>> YOU MAY HAVE SOME THAT DUPLICATE AT OTHER STATIONS AND THE PERSON DOING THE BIDDING MAY GIVE YOU A DISCOUNT IF HE GETS ALL THE WORK AT TWO OR THREE.
>> WELL, THOSE AC UNITS OF 20 YEARS IS NOT A MATTER OF IF THEY'RE GOING TO FAIL, IT'S GOING TO BE WHEN.
>> THEY'RE CONSTANT THAT YEAR. WE WORK ON A CONSTANT.
>> YOU FOUND ONE BIG GENERATOR IN THE PACKAGES SOMEWHERE.
KEEP LOOKING, YOU MIGHT FIND ANOTHER.
>> DO YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER THE PROPOSAL FOR ANY REMAINING FUNDS EVEN AFTER WE GO OVER THIS,
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JUST SO IT CAN BE ON YOUR RADAR OR ARE YOU GOOD?>> I PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER WAIT TO FIND OUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO SINK THE MONEY THAT WAY AND THEN KNOWING WHAT'S LEFT OVER.
>> I AGREE. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE PRICING FOR YOUR WHOLE WISHLIST.
SO YOU SHOULD KNOCK OUT SOME OF THESE ITEMS.
>> YOU KNEW IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I WOULD ASK THOUGH, ONCE THEY GET THE PRICING, DON'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING [OVERLAPPING].
>> DON'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, PLEASE.
>> WE DON'T MEAN FOR ANOTHER MONTH.
>> YEAH, WE DON'T MEET UNTIL JULY.
>> YEAH, GO AHEAD, MR. WEBB, TELL HIM.
>> WELL, HE'S THE ADMINISTRATOR.
>> I WOULD PREFER WHEN YOU GET THE PRICING, THAT YOU HAVE MR. STOKES AND MS. JURY SEND IT OUT TO US.
DON'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
BECAUSE WE DON'T MEET FOR ANOTHER MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE LOT OF TIME. [OVERLAPPING] OKAY.
>> BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE WAY, YOU KNOW HOW THE MARKET WORKS, IT MIGHT BE A MONTH BEFORE WE GET PRICING.
>> ALL RIGHT, BUT DON'T WAIT ON US, WE'RE WAITING ON YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BE IN RECESS THEN UNTIL 7:00 PM.
>> SEVEN O'CLOCK, I'M CALLING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
FIRST THING WE'LL HAVE IS WE'LL ASK MR. BROWN TO GIVE US OUR INVOCATION.
[INVOCATION]
>> HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING JUST TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US YET TO SEE ANOTHER DAY, A DAY THAT WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THIS EVENING THAT YOU WATCH OVER THIS BOARD AS WE GO INTO OUR BUSINESS MATTERS FOR THIS NIGHT.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK THAT WE WOULD ALL WORK TOGETHER AS ONE AND DO WHAT IS BEST FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND OUR CITIZENS.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO WATCH OVER ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, ALL OF OUR FIRE, EMS, POLICE, ALL OF THOSE THAT WORK HERE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, I ASK A SPECIAL PRAYER TONIGHT FOR MY DAD AS HE'S STILL DEALING WITH HIS ISSUES AND HAS GONE BACK INTO THE HOSPITAL, JUST LAY YOUR LOVING ARMS OR PROTECTION AROUND HIM AND KEEP HIM TO KEEP MAKING PROGRESS.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK ALL THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN.
>> I ASK MR. CARMICHAEL TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG.
>> THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA,
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.THIS IS A TIME FOR ANYONE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA, AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO THEM, WAIT TO THOSE.
BUT AT THIS TIME, ANYBODY THAT HAS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MRS. KNOTT, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, CITIZENS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, MY NAME IS REID FALSTER.
I RESIDE AT 7031 LAUREL SPRING ROAD, PRINCE GEORGE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I, GARLAND REID FALSTER JR. HEREBY REQUEST A MEETING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE TWO COMPLAINTS THAT I FILED WITH YOU ON MARCH 15, 2023.
AS I STAND HERE TONIGHT, THERE HAS BEEN NO RESOLUTION TO THOSE TWO COMPLAINTS.
YOU CAN CONTACT ME AT 804-943-3545 OR YOU CAN REACH ME BY EMAIL AT RFALSTERCHIEF100@AOL.COM.
I HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON SO WE CAN PUT THIS MATTER TO REST.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS COMMENT TO COME FORWARD WITH THE BOARD TONIGHT?
>> CHAIRMAN HUNTER, VICE CHAIR MR. WEBB, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I LIVE AT 7500 TRAILING ROCK ROAD, PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA.
I'M HERE NOT ONLY AS A CITIZEN OF PRINCE GEORGE, BUT ALSO AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA BOARD OF REALTORS.
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IN THE PAST, I'VE APPEARED BEFORE YOU CONCERNING THE CONVENIENCE CENTER.I NOTICE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT I WENT TO THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THEY RESENT IT TO THE BOARD.
MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, AND DO YOU PLAN ON BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD?
>> WE PULLED IT. THIS WOULDN'T BE A DISCUSSION TONIGHT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO THAT.
>> OKAY, THAT'S FINE. YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO REACH ME, SO I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU.
>> SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD IN PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION? HEARING NO ONE ELSE, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]
WE HAVE TWO ADDITION TO A-9 AND THE A-10.SO I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITIONAL TWO ITEMS.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THIS AGENDA WITH THE ADDITIONS OF A-9 AND A-10 AS SO STATED.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO WE NEED TO READ THOSE OR NOT? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS AGENDA.
[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL.
>> THERE ARE NO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
[SUPERVISORS’ COMMENTS]
WE HAVE SUPERVISORS COMMENTS.MR. CARMICHAEL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST?
>> YES, GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE.
SUMMER APPROACHES, A LOT OF ACTIVITIES WILL BE HAPPENING WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND A LOT OF TRAVELING AND VACATION. PLEASE BE SAFE.
PLEASE PUT YOUR FAMILY AND EVERYBODY UNDER YOUR CARE AND HAVE FUN.
LAST COUPLE OF YEARS COMING OUT OF COVID AND GETTING OUT TO WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND DOING THINGS.
JUST HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT SUMMER AND JUST BE SAFE AS YOU GO OUT AND DO WHATEVER IT IS YOU'D LIKE TO DO. THAT'S ALL I HAD.
>> YES. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SMOKE THAT SOME OF THE PLACES FURTHER NORTH HEAD.
IF IT DOES HAPPEN AGAIN AND WE GET THE SMOKE, PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU'RE WORKING OUTSIDE.
USE A RESPIRATOR THEY RECOMMEND AN N95 RESPIRATOR.
IF YOU'RE DOING ANY HEAVY WORK OUTSIDE OR IF YOU'RE A SUSCEPTIBLE PERSON, PEOPLE WITH ASTHMA, THE CHILDREN AND THE ELDERLY ARE ALL SUSCEPTIBLE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MRS. WAYMACK FOR THAT ADVICE.
>> WELL, I CAN SAY I'M OFFICIAL.
[LAUGHTER] I'M OFFICIAL AS OF JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
[NOISE] BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY TO FOLKS, I'M ACTUALLY SCHEDULED FOR A PARTIAL CORNEA TRANSPLANT SURGERY ON MONDAY, THE 19TH.
THAT IS SUPPOSED TO RESTORE MY VISION IN MY LEFT EYE BACK TO 2025. THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY.
I COULDN'T THINK OF A NICER BIRTHDAY GIFT.
IT'LL BE ABOUT A 30 DAY RECOVERY.
BUT OVER THAT 30 DAYS, THINGS SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A LOT BETTER THAN WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN, MR. WEBB?
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR’S COMMENTS]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS COMMENTS.>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. BUSY WEEKEND IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, THE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATING CLASS OF 2023.
THAT CEREMONY WILL BE HELD AT THE PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL STADIUM, BEGINNING AT NINE O'CLOCK.
ALSO ON THE 17TH IS A SPECIAL SATURDAY HOURS FOR IN-PERSON EARLY VOTING FOR THE JUNE 20TH DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
THAT'S 9-5 HERE AT THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE.
AND ON JUNE 17TH WILL BE THE PRINCE GEORGE FARMERS MARKET AND JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION, SCOTT PARK FROM 1:00 PM TO 5:00 PM COUNTY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY ON MONDAY, JUNE 19TH, AND ON JUNE 20TH IS THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ELECTION DAY 2023.
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ALL PRECINCTS WILL BE OPEN FROM 6:00 AM TO 7:00 PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.>> THANK YOU, SIR. UNDER REPORTS MS.
[REPORTS]
CRYSTAL SMITH FROM VDOT.>> WE HAVE RECEIVED OUR FUNDING SCENARIO FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 AND A COUPLE OF THINGS I DID WANT TO MENTION ABOUT THAT.
LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR HAS DEDICATED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
WE RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL 50,000 TOWARDS TREE TRIMMING, 80,000 TOWARDS DITCHING AND 53,000 TOWARDS PIPES.
THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR FOR THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL EXCEED THE ACCOMPLISHMENT GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN SET IN THOSE CATEGORIES AND REQUESTS THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN FUTURE YEARS.
WITH THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE'RE PLANNING TO INSPECTING CLEAN 165,000 LINEAR FEET OF DITCH, ACCOMPLISHED 43 MILES OF SHOULDER WORK, 1,300 ACRES A LITTER AND MOWING, 1,600 LINEAR FEET OF PIPE INSPECTION AND CLEANING, AND OVER 100 MILES OF TREE TRIMMING SHOULDER MOUSE AND TREE TRIMMING.
QUITE A BIT OF WORK GOING ON FOR 2024, WE'VE BEEN WORKING PROBABLY FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS TRYING TO PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GOALS THAT WE SET FOR OUR AREA HEADQUARTERS ARE REASONABLE.
THEY ARE AMBITIOUS, BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T MEET THOSE GOALS.
YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF WORK GOING ON, NOT JUST BY OUR CREWS, BUT OUR SERVICE CONTRACTORS AS WELL.
WE HOPE TO BEGIN THE BRIDGE WORK ON HERITAGE ROAD LATE THIS SUMMER.
THAT START DATE ALL HINGES ON THE RECEIPT OF THE STEEL FOR THAT PROJECT.
[NOISE] BULL HILL AND COURTHOUSE AROUND ABOUT THERE STILL PLAN TO START HEAVY CONSTRUCTION IN OCTOBER.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL PROJECTS COMING UP ON THE BENJAMIN HARRISON BRIDGE.
THEY PLAN TO REPLACE THE SPAN LOCK AND THE FENDER SYSTEM FOR THAT BRIDGE.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE EXPECTED TO TAKE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF TO COMPLETE.
AN UPDATE ON THE TEMPLETON NO THRU TRUCK RESTRICTION THAT INCLUDED FIVE OTHER ROUTES.
THERE WAS A DELAY IN THAT NO THRU TRUCK RESTRICTION.
THE ADVERTISEMENTS, TWO OF THOSE DID NOT MAKE IT INTO TWO OF THE PAPERS.
THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON THE PAPER SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
WE HAD TO RE-ADVERTISE THAT AND WAITED AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS.
THE ADVERTISEMENT HAS BEEN DONE, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE 30 DAYS TO ELAPSE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, DINWIDDIE COUNTY HAS REQUESTED SUPPORT FROM PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY ON A NO THRU TRUCK RESTRICTION REQUESTS FOR HALIFAX ROAD THAT WOULD RUN FROM THE COUNTING LIMITS TO ROWANI.
WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY THAT SUPPORT.
SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THIS REQUEST.
VERY SIMILAR TO TEMPLETON BECAUSE IT'S TWO COUNTIES, PRINCE GEORGE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND TO PROVIDE A RESOLUTION FROM THE BOARD AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.
LIKE I SAY, SIMILAR TO HOW WE DID WITH SUSSEX COUNTY ON THE NO THRU TRUCK THAT ENTERED THEIR LOCALITY.
FOR TONIGHT WE'RE BASICALLY JUST LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD TO DO A STUDY ON HALIFAX NO THRU TRUCK RESTRICTION AND ALLOW THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PROVIDE THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
>> FOR EACH LOCK, HOW THAT WILL BE HANDLED? YOU SAID A YEAR AND A HALF, HOW'S THAT CAN BE HANDLED?
>> REGARDING LANE RESTRICTIONS?
>> LANE RESTRICTIONS, BRIDGE CLOSURES, ETC.
>> MOST OF THE FENDER SYSTEM WORK WILL BE UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE.
FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, THE FENDER SYSTEM IS WHAT PROTECTS THE COLUMNS THAT HOLD THE BRIDGE UP.
THERE PROBABLY WILL BE SOME LANE CLOSURES.
TYPICALLY MOST OF THE WORK IF THERE HAS TO BE RESTRICTIONS, IT'S DONE AT NIGHTTIME HOURS, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE DONE ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS, THERE WILL BE SOME ONE LANE RESTRICTIONS DURING THE DAY THOUGH, FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
>> ABOUT THE [INAUDIBLE] BRIDGE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT TONIGHT, YOU CAN JUST EMAIL ME.
>> YEAH, AS FAR AS THE DATE ON GETTING IT STARTED, I DO NOT HAVE THAT.
>> THAT'S FINE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
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>> YES. MS. SMITH, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE OAKLAWN BOULEVARD PROJECT?
>> YES. THE PROJECT MANAGER THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THAT, I TRIED TO GET SOME UPDATES ON THAT BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING TONIGHT, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.
AS SOON AS I GET THAT INFORMATION, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL EMAIL IT OUT TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.
THEN AT THE NEXT MONTH'S BOARD MEETING, I'LL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO HEAR AS WELL.
>> JUST ONE LAST QUESTION FOR MS. SMITH.
WE GOT AS FAR AS, JUST PRETEND TO FIRE DEPARTMENT QUEEN STREET 460 AND TRYING TO GET THE SAFETY LIGHT PUT UP FOR FIRE TRUCKS AS A BACK TO THEIR FACILITY AFTER SENATOR RUFF AND I'VE MET SEVERAL MONTHS BACK LIKE HE DID COME IN FRONT OF US AND SAY THAT WE COULD PUT ONE UP.
IT WOULD BE AT THE COST OF THE COUNTY, OF COURSE, WITH THE COST OF ONE OF THOSE OVERHEAD LIGHTS IS TREMENDOUS.
IS THERE ANY SAFETY GRANTS OR ANY TYPE OF FUNDING AS I ENTER INTO MY LAST SIX MONTHS HERE.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT I DID FAIL ON TRYING TO HELP GET PUT IN DURING MY TENURE HERE.
BUT IS THERE ANYTHING, ANY MONEY OUT THERE THAT VDOT HAS FOR SAFETY INITIATIVES OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT CAN BE DONE TO HELP THE COST OF THIS?
>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANYTHING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER AS FAR AS VDOT GOES, I CAN'T SAY THAT THERE ISN'T ANY FUNDING AVAILABLE FROM THE FEDERAL SIDE OF THE HOUSE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT LOCALITIES CAN GET.
I DID TALK TO MR. STOKE THIS EVENING AND COMMITTED TO AT LEAST TRY TO SEE IF WE COULD USE CSO FUNDS FOR IT.
I'M NOT VERY HOPEFUL THAT I WILL GET APPROVAL FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IT IS TYPICALLY UPON THE LOCALITY TO FUND THE COSTS FOR THAT.
NOW WE'LL LOOK INTO IT AND SEE IF IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET THAT TO SQUEEZE INTO THAT FUNDING POT.
>> THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
>> WE HAVE A GENERAL ASSEMBLY UPDATE, MA'AM?
>> YES, SIR. I HAVE A POWERPOINT, SHOULD I GO THERE AND TO DO THE POWERPOINT?
>> YES, MA'AM. MS. SMITH, ONE MORE QUESTION.
>> YES. ABOUT THE SUPPORT FOR THE HALIFAX.
>> YEAH. I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD.
>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SO WE CAN GET THAT LETTER OUT. THANK YOU.
>> I THOUGHT YOU CAME BACK TO TELL US YOU FOUND THE LIGHT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE WAITED ALL YEAR WITH BATED BREATH FOR THIS MOMENT, [NOISE] FOR THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE FROM THE [NOISE] GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
THIS PAST YEAR, I THINK THERE ARE MORE SUBSTANTIAL ITEMS THAT WERE PASSED THAN IN SOME OTHER YEARS.
YOU'LL BE PLEASED TO KNOW THAT I WILL NOT BE REVIEWING ALL OF THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET.
THE FIRST PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS A NEW INITIATIVE.
IT IS FOR INCENTIVIZING BUSINESSES TO SUPPORT BLUE CATFISH PROCESSING.
THERE'S AN EMPHASIS OF AWARDING TO SMALL-SCALE BLUE CATFISH, WATERMAN.
THE BLUE CATFISH ARE EATING EVERYTHING IN ALL OF OUR WATERS AND SO THE GOVERNOR HAS THE ABILITY TO GIVE REIMBURSABLE GRANTS OF UP TO $250,000 TO LOCALITY FOR THAT.
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, [NOISE] THERE'S LEGISLATION THAT REORGANIZED ALL OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS NOW A DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND ADVANCEMENT THAT HAS BEEN CREATED.
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THERE ARE A WHOLE HOST OF REORGANIZATION OF DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT HAVE OCCURRED.MAINTENANCE OF SCHOOL BUILDINGS.
THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE AMENDMENTS TO THE STANDARDS OF QUALITY FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF SCHOOL BUILDINGS.
THOSE AMENDMENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF A SCHOOL BUILDING, AND ANY OTHER STANDARDS THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION MAY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE.
AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, WE HAVE MATCHING GRANTS FOR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS NOW.
THIS HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO ALLOW FOR SCHOOL SECURITY OFFICERS WHO ARE NOT THE SAME THING AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.
THEY DO NOT CARRY THE SAME AUTHORITY THAT AN SRO DOES.
ALSO, OTHER SCHOOL SAFETY PERSONNEL, AND THE GRANTS CAN BE EXTENDED FOR EQUIPMENT OR UNIFORMING OF OFFICERS IN SCHOOLS.
THERE'S THE AUTHORITY FOR THE POLICE CHIEF, IF THE BOARD WOULD SEE FIT TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A CURFEW FOR UP TO 24 HOURS IN THE EVENT OF A CIVIL DISTURBANCE.
[NOISE] THIS IS ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT I'M SURE WOULD THRILL THE HEART OF OUR FOLKS DOWNSTAIRS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE VEHICLES THAT MIGHT BE BLOCKING A ROAD OR DURING A SNOWSTORM THAT HAVE FALLEN INTO A DITCH.
THIS LEGISLATION EXPANDS IT SO THAT CODE COMPLIANCE CAN DO THOSE REMOVALS AND ASSIST LAW ENFORCEMENT.
>> JUST THOSE THAT ARE PARKED IN A HAZARD?
>> YES. IF THEY'RE BLOCKING THE ROAD WAY OR OTHERWISE IMMOBILIZED USUALLY DUE TO SOME WEATHER EVENT.
THIS IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT I WAS LESS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT.
ALTHOUGH, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT ANY LOCALITY TAKING AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT WASN'T APPROPRIATE.
BUT [NOISE] THIS IS ONE OF TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION WHERE IF THE LOCALITY PROCEEDS TO COURT WITHOUT A SOLID BASIS AND WITHOUT A BASIS FOR THE CASE THAT THEY'RE TAKING TO COURT, THEN THE LOCALITY CAN END UP HAVING TO PAY DAMAGES, AS WELL AS COURT FEES AND COSTS, ATTORNEY'S FEES.
OF COURSE, IN PRINCE GEORGE, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN APPROPRIATE BASIS FOR EVERYTHING WE TAKE TO COURT.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION IS GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF LOCALITIES THINK TWICE BEFORE THEY MAYBE GO TO COURT.
IF A STOP WORK ORDER IS APPEALED AND THE COURT OVERTURNS THE STOP WORK ORDER, THEN THERE IS THE ABILITY OF THE COURT TO AWARD COSTS AND FEES AGAINST THE LOCALITY FOR THAT.
FIREFIGHTERS WILL NOW HAVE TO HAVE TRAINING ON PUTTING OUT FIRES ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
THAT'S BOTH CAREER AND VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS.
RESILIENCE IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED NOW TO BE PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT IS RESILIENCE IN TERMS OF EVALUATING THE LOCALITY'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF HAZARDS OR EVENTS THAT WOULD OCCUR IN THE LOCALITY.
TIKTOK, WECHAT, AND THE COMPANIES THAT OWN THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE PROHIBITED ON STATE AND GOVERNMENT ISSUED DEVICES.
ALSO IF YOU HAVE A PERSONAL DEVICE AND GO INTO A STATE BUILDING AND CONNECT TO THEIR WI-FI, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO ACCESS ANY OF THESE,
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THE TIKTOK, THE WECHAT, OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER WEBSITES.THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN ABOUT SURVEILLANCE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT I THINK RATHER EXPAND THE AUTHORITY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A NEW REPORT THAT'S DUE SEPTEMBER 1ST THAT IS SUPPOSED TO SUMMARIZE ALL OF THE POLICIES AND ORDINANCES THAT PERTAIN TO DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION IN THE LOCALITY DURING THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE STATE DHCD IS GOING TO DEVELOP A STATEWIDE HOUSING NEEDS PLAN, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE UPDATED AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS.
THE DHCD DIRECTOR, IS ALSO GOING TO BE ASSISTING LOCALITIES IN MARKETING PROPERTY.
THIS IS BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND IT CAN BE BOTH FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
BPOL TAX FORMS ARE NOW REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR THINGS.
THE DUE DATE, THE AMOUNT OF ANY PENALTY FOR LATE FILING, THE AMOUNT OF THE PENALTY FOR UNDER PAYMENT, AND THE AMOUNT OF ANY PENALTY FOR LATE PAYMENT OF THE TAX.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT VETERANS AND SURVIVING SPOUSES ARE ENTITLED TO REAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS.
THIS NEW LAW ALLOWS A DISABLED VETERAN OR SURVIVING SPOUSE TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY QUALIFY FOR THE EXEMPTION PRIOR TO PURCHASING THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS A NEW REQUIREMENT THAT EVERY LOCALITY HAVE A POLICY REGARDING CHARGING FOR RECORDS REQUESTS, AND THAT IS WHY SUCH A POLICY IS ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING SO THAT COME JULY 1 WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE STATE-WIDE.
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE QUOTED OUTRAGEOUS SUMS OF MONEY FOR MAKING A FOIA REQUEST.
THERE WAS ONE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, LOUDOUN, WHERE A PARENT REQUESTED REPORTS RELATING TO SEXUAL ASSAULTS AT A PARTICULAR HIGH SCHOOL, AND I THINK THAT MOTHER WAS QUOTED LIKE $36,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[NOISE] THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY IS TO MAKE IT CLEAR HOW A LOCALITY CHARGES FOR FOIA REQUESTS AND I THINK TO BRING THE LOCALITIES ATTENTION TO FOLLOWING THE LAW.
WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO CHARGE THE ACTUAL COST OF RESPONDING.
LAST YEAR THEY PASSED AN AMENDMENT TO THE STATUTE THAT SAID, YOU ARE TO USE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE MEANS POSSIBLE IN RESPONDING TO A CITIZEN'S FOIA REQUESTS.
>> HOPEFULLY, THE INCREASE IN CHARGES FOR THAT PARTICULAR FIOA REQUEST WAS DUE TO DETER THEM FOR GOING ANY FURTHER WITH IT NOT THAT THEY HAVE SO MANY CASES. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BAD.
>> YES. IT WAS EXTENSIVE REVIEW OF RECORDS BY AN ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO IT.
I WAS CURIOUS TO SEE AND IT WAS JUST HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS OF REVIEWING DOCUMENTS.
THEY DID LIKE AN INITIAL SEARCH, AND THEN THE COMPUTER PULLED THE RECORDS, AND THEN AN ADMINISTRATOR WAS GOING TO HAVE TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS AND THAT WAS THE BULK OF THE COST.
COME JULY 1, THERE WILL BE NO MORE UNINSURED MOTORIST FEE.
>> WHAT DOES THAT EXACTLY MEAN? [OVERLAPPING] A FEE CHARGE OR YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE?
>> AT THIS TIME IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO PURCHASE INSURANCE, THEY CAN PAY THAT UNINSURED MOTORIST FEE.
THAT IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE AN OPTION, SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE, COME JULY 1.
>> ORGAN DONORS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 60 DAYS OF 12 OF UNPAID LEAVE IN ANY 12-MONTH PERIOD.
LIKEWISE, BONE MARROW DONORS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 30 BUSINESS DAYS OF UNPAID LEAVE IN ANY 12TH MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
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THERE'S BEEN AN AMENDMENT TO WORKERS COMPENSATION IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIREFIGHTERS, ANXIETY DISORDERS, OR DEPRESSIVE DISORDERS ARE NOW GOING TO BE COMPENSABLE UNDER THE WORKERS COMP ACT.I'M HEARING FROM A LOT OF PLACES THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO DRIVE THE WORKERS COMP RATES UP.
ONE EXCEPTION IS THAT IF IT IS A RISING OUT OF THE RESPONSE TO A CRIME SCENE FOR INVESTIGATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO LIMIT OUR COSTS MUCH, BUT THOSE ARE NOW COMPENSABLE.
THEN THE LAST IS A FEDERAL LAW WHICH CURIOUSLY TAKES EFFECT JUNE 27TH, 2023.
MS. HERTZ SENT OUT AN EMAIL TODAY ON THIS TOPIC.
THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS MUST BE MADE FOR PREGNANT WORKERS IN THE WORKPLACE SUCH AS; BEING ALLOWED TO ACCESS WATER, HAVING CLOTHING THAT IS APPROPRIATELY FITTING, BEING ABLE TO SIT DOWN, BEING ABLE TO ATTEND DOCTORS APPOINTMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S SORT OF FASHIONED AFTER THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AS IN TERMS OF HOW I'VE READ IT SO FAR.
WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> WE HAVE NO POSTPONED ITEMS FOR TONIGHT.
IT IS 7:30, SO WE'LL GO INTO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS A REZONING RZ-23-04 REQUESTS OF INTERSTATE VIRGINIA HOLDINGS LLC, TO REZONE ONE PARCEL CONSISTENT OF APPROXIMATELY 8.8 OR MORE TAP MASS.THAT IS ZONE BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL.
WELL, MR. GREEN I THINK IS GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS TO US, IF YOU WOULD SIR.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO WISH A GOOD EVENING TO CHAIRMAN HANNAH TO VICE-CHAIRMAN, WHERE THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE AREA VIEW OF SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN BLUE.
THE NEXT MAP IS THE ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY, AND AS THE MAP SHOWS THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SPLITS ZONE, [INAUDIBLE] ZONE B-1 GENERAL BUSINESS.
IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IS OWNED R-A RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE ALL THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL USES.
IN THE NEXT SLIDES WILL BE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
THIS PICTURE HERE IS OF IMPORTANCE, BECAUSE THE SITE IS CURRENTLY BEING TURNED INTO A ILLEGAL DUMP SITE.
THOSE ARE MATTRESSES WHICH HAVE BEEN DUMPED ON THE PROPERTY.
IN THE NEXT PICTURE SHOWS THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HERE IN SITE THAT WAS POSTED.
THE BACKGROUND, DECIDING COURSE AND HAS BEEN USED AS BUSINESS USE OVER THE PAST YEARS TO FORMALLY DECIDE.
USED TO BE THE SITE OF THE FORMER ROSE GARDEN INN AND KNIGHTS INN, AND A RESTAURANT, THE SITE IS NOW VACANT AND ALL OF THE STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN DEMO.
THE APPLICANT GOALS THE APPLICANT WISHES TO CONSTRUCT A 13,000 SQUARE FOOT TRAVEL PLAZA WHICH WILL INCLUDE: A CONVENIENCE STORE, TWO BUSINESS FRANCHISES, FUELING ISLANDS,
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A RESTAURANT, SHOWER AND LAUNDRY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR TRUCK DRIVERS.THERE WILL BE 50 DESIGNATED SPACES FOR CARS, AND 50 SPACES FOR TRUCKS.
THERE WILL ALSO BE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, AND A DOG PARK.
TO SUMMARIZE THE APPLICATION, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES FROM A SPLIT ZONING OF R-A AND B-1 TO ALL B-1.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED SITE LAYOUT FOR THE PROPERTY.
PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF COMMENTS WERE THE FOLLOWING.
IF THE PROPERTY IS REZONED TO B-1 FOR THE TRAVEL CENTER, THE USES WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT UNDER SECTION 90-392 AND IT'S ONLY KNOWING THIS.
SOME OF THE USES THAT WILL BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT ARE AS FOLLOWS: RETAIL STORES AND SHOPS, SERVICE STATIONS, OFF-STREET PARKING, BUSINESS SIGNS, AND RESTAURANTS.
NUMBER 2, THE EFFECTIVE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN USED AS BUSINESSES IN THE PAST, AND THE SITE ADJOINS PROPERTY THE ZONE B-1 AND IS THE SITE OF THE OYO HOTEL.
THEREFORE, THE PROPOSED USE AS A TRAVEL CENTER WOULD BE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND SURROUNDING LAND USES.
OTHER SURROUNDING LAND USES INCLUDES: WOODLANDS, INTERSTATE-95, VDOT'S LOCAL MAINTENANCE SHOP, A CELL TOWER, AND SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
AS STATED EARLIER, THE COMP'S PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS THE SITE REQUESTING ZONE FOR FUTURE BUSINESS USES.
A SITE PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED DUE TO THE SCOPE AND SIZE OF THE PROJECTS, AND PERMITS WE'LL HAVE TO COME FROM DEQ, BECAUSE THE SITE LACKS PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
SO THEY WILL HAVE TO GET THE PERMITS FROM DEQ FOR A WELL, AND FOR A WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
A CHAPTER 527 TRAFFIC STUDY WAS CONDUCTED, AND THE REPORT SUMMARIZE THAT NO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE WARRANTED AT THE SITE IN QUESTION.
OFF-STREET PARKING, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING MUST BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
EXPECTED IMPACTS FUNDED ON TRAVEL PLOTS OR IN MITIGATION MATTERS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
THERE WILL BE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
THERE WILL BE AN ESTIMATED 235 TRIPS DURING THE AM PEAK HOURS BETWEEN 6-9AM, AN ESTIMATED 240 TRIPS DURING THE PM PEAK HOURS BETWEEN 3-6PM.
THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC IS ESTIMATED AT 3,423 VEHICLES PER DAY.
THE MITIGATION, A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS CONDUCTED IN THE CONCLUSION OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS NO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WERE WARRANTED.
THERE WILL BE NOISE FROM THE TRAVEL PLAZA, IN THE MITIGATION WOULD BE THE COUNTIES NOISE ORDINANCE, ALSO NOISE LEVELS WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY.
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TO MANAGE SOME NOISE.LIGHTS WILL BE INSTALLED TO THE TRAVEL PLAZA.
MITIGATION IS DELIGHTING WILL BE INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN REGULATIONS AND WILL BE INSTALLED NOT TO SIGN ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
OTHER IMPACTS ARE DRAINAGE AND WATER QUALITY.
THERE WILL BE STORMWATER RUNOFF DURING HEAVY RAIN EVENTS.
THE MITIGATION IS REGULATIONS OF THE COUNTY'S LOCAL EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE AND DEQS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS.
AIR QUALITY, THERE MAY BE SOME DUST DURING CONSTRUCTION.
THE MITIGATION OR THE PAVING REQUIREMENTS OF THE SITE PLAN.
ACCESS, THERE ARE TWO ACCESS POINTS FOR THE RED FLAG.
ONE ACCESS POINT WILL BE OF COURTLAND, AND THAT ACCESS WILL BE FOR TRUCKS ONLY, AND THE OTHER ACCESS WILL BE OF FOR SUNNYBROOK, WHICH WILL BE ONLY FOR PASSENGER VEHICLES.
BUFFERING AND SCREENING WILL BE PER THE COUNTY'S ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE COUNTY'S SITE PLAN REGULATION.
OTHER STAFF COMMENTS, AS STATED EARLIER, CHAPTER 5-7 TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE.
THE STUDY CONCLUDED THAT NO MAJOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE NEEDED.
IN THE UTILITIES COMMENTS WAS THAT THE PARCEL PROPOSED FOR THE REZONING DOES NOT HAVE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, THEREFORE, THEY WILL HAVE TO INSTALL A PRIVATE WELL AND SEPTIC.
PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY STAFF ARE AS FOLLOWS.
TODAY, MY OFFICE HAS RECEIVED EIGHT PHONE CALLS IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING.
THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED TO ME ARE: THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, THEY DON'T LIKE THE PROPOSED INGRESS AND EGRESS, THE NOISE, POSSIBLE INCREASE IN CRIME, DRUGS AND SEX TRAFFICKING, THE NEED FOR A BUFFER, THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY VISIBLE ROOFTOP ON UNITS, AC UNITS.
RESIDENTS FEEL THAT THERE IS NOT A NEED FOR ANOTHER TRUCK STOP IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, AND A SITE INCREASE POLLUTION TO WETLANDS INTO THE GROUNDWATER.
IT HAS CITED THE HEALTH ISSUES THAT COULD COME FROM THE TRUCK PLAZA.
TWO RESIDENTS SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ON PUBLIC HEARING.
THE APPLICANTS HAVE LISTENED TO THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS AND ON MAY 25TH THEY PROFFERED THE FOLLOWING PROFFERS.
THE USE OF THE PROPERTY SHALL BE SUBJECT TO ONLY THOSE USES THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE B-1 ZONING DISTRICT.
THEY ALSO PROFFER TO INSTALL AND TO MAINTAIN A 30 FOOT WIDE BUFFER, AND THE LAST PROFFER WAS THAT ANY ROOFTOP AC UNITS WILL BE SCREENED BY
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ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILDING FACADE ARCHITECTURE.THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 25TH, 2023.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BY A VOTE OF 4-1 SUBJECT TO THE APPLICANTS PROFFERS.
THE PC RECOMMENDATION WAS BASED ON THE FOLLOWING.
THE APPLICANTS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND SURROUNDING LAND USES.
THE SITE CURRENTLY ADJOINS PROPERTY ZONED B-1.
THE SITE HAS BEEN USED IN THE PAST FOR BUSINESS USES.
THE REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE HAS BEEN NO MAJOR ISSUES OR CONCERNS RAISED BY VDOT.
THE PROFIT CONDITIONS RECEIVES ON MARCH 25TH WERE FOUND TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO STAFF AND TO THE PC.
THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I AM HERE TO ANSWER THEM AND APPLICANT ALSO HAS A REPRESENTATION HERE.
>> BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY CONCERNS FOR MR. GREEN?
>> NO QUESTIONS, NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT CAN WAIT IF HE WISHES AND CAN SPEAK TO US AFTER WE HEAR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CAN ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT MAY ARISE AT THAT TIME.
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE B-1 REZONING OF THE RZ2304.
ANYONE THAT JUST HEARD MR. GREEN'S PRESENTATION.
MRS. KNOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK?
>> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, ZACHARY GLASER.
>> OKAY. HOW ARE YOU, ARE YOU ZACHARY GLASER?
>> ALL RIGHT, SIR. JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MIN TO SPEAK, SIR.
I LIVE IN 9610 NORTH CAROLINA COURT, NORTH CHESTERFIELD.
I CHECKED THE BOX JUST TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK, NOT BE ABLE TO NOT TO SPEAK.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
>> WELL, I'VE SEEN THAT SITE BEFORE WHEN I DRIVEN DOWN THERE WHEN I USED TO GO TO RICHARD BLAND.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUT A TRIBAL CENTER RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE INCREASED DEMAND FOR THAT WASTEWATER.
>> THE WATER IN THE SEWER REQUIREMENTS THEY NEEDED TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER IN THE POWERPOINT, AND LIKE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THERE'S A BUNCH MORE OF THOSE TRUCK CENTERS RIGHT UP THE ROAD, SO THAT'S ALL I GOT, SIR.
>> THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> MS. COSTLY, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I'M A NEW RESIDENT TO THE COUNTY.
I LIVE AT 2107 KOTLIN ROAD, PRINCE GEORGE, AND I AM DIRECTLY LOCATED BESIDE THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
I DID CONTACT MR. GREEN ON THE 24TH AND ASKED HIM ABOUT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS AND IT IS GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, WHICH I'M SITUATED NEXT TO.
I DON'T KNOW WHO HE TALKED TO OR WHO DID THE SURVEY ON THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
BUT THERE IS DETERIORATION AND EROSION ON THE ROADWAY.
WE'RE ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH 18-WHEELERS COMING DOWN THAT ROAD, USING OUR DRIVEWAY AS A TURNAROUND POINT.
THEY DON'T MANEUVER VERY WELL AND THEY HAVE DRIVEN ACROSS
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THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND THEY LEFT RED MARKS THERE, KNOCK THE MAILBOX DOWN TWICE.I'VE HAD TO RELOCATE THE MAILBOX IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE 18-WHEELERS USED IN CORTLAND ROAD.
WHO IS THE DEVELOPER? I UNDERSTAND MR. SIMMONS'S NAME IS ON IT.
I JUST RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT THAT HE'S ONLY THE REGISTERED AGENT AND HE ONLY RECEIVES PAPERWORK AT THAT LOCATION ALONG WITH 18 OTHER BUSINESSES IN THIS AREA.
IN LIGHT OF THE CURRENT POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASED CRIME, POLLUTION, DRUG ACTIVITY, HUMAN TRAFFIC, NOISE, AND SMELL GENERATED BY THOSE DIESEL ENGINES.
WITHIN A TWO-MILE RADIUS, THEY ARE CURRENTLY TWO TRUCK STOPS, ONE AT CORTLAND ROAD AND SOUTH CRATER AND ANOTHER ONE DOWN ON CRATER ROAD.
I PERSONALLY WENT TO THE ONE ON CRATER ROAD, I VISITED SOME RESIDENTS ON CORTLAND ROAD.
THEY'VE STATED SOME OF THEM THAT THEY HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN NOTIFIED.
IN FACT, THE CONVENIENCE STORE THAT'S SITUATED ON THE CORNER, THEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
MAINLY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE AGGRAVATION OF THE TRUCK DRIVERS TURNING AROUND AT TWELVE AND ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, HAD THEM COME ON THE PROPERTY.
IT'S A TRIBAL CENTER UP THE ROAD, KIDS HANG OUT, THEY RIDE THEIR BICYCLES DOWN THE ROAD, THEY DO DAMAGE TO OUR MAILBOXES.
I'M AFRAID IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER HANG-OUT.
I AGREE THAT TRUCKERS NEED A VARIETY OF AMENITIES AT THESE LOCATIONS, BUT THIS ONE IS GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THOSE THAT ALREADY SITUATED IN THE TWO-MILE RADIUS.
EXAMPLE, ARE THEY GOING TO PROVIDE BARBER SERVICES, WORKOUT ROOMS, GAMING ROOMS, SOME STORAGE SERVICES, MOVIE THEATERS, I DOUBT IT.
I KNOW THE TRUCKERS ARE OUR FRONTLINE WORKERS AND ESSENTIAL SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED.
I'M THANKFUL EVERY DAY FOR THE AMAZING JOB THAT THEY DO.
I'M CONCERNED. THERE WAS A HOLIDAY IN THERE, AND I DON T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER NEED FOR ANOTHER TRIBAL SERVICE.
I RETIRED FOR PEACE AND QUIET, IT DON'T LOOK LIKE I'M GOING TO GET THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
>> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR?
>> GOOD EVENING, BOARD. ADMINISTRATIVE STOKES, MY NAME IS SHANE BRIDGEMAN.
I RESIDE AT 4100 RED GATE, PAST BOTANA I OWN THE PROPERTY THAT'S EXACTLY BESIDE THIS PROPOSED TRAP PLAZA WHERE MY MOTHER RESIDES, 2176 GORDON ROAD.
LET ME START OFF BY SAYING, MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THIS COUNTY DEVELOPING, MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THE TRUCK STOP.
THIS COUNTY DON'T NEED ANOTHER ONE.
WE'VE BUILT FOUR IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
A LOT OF WHICH I DID TO WORK ON.
I CAN'T SIT HERE AND TELL YOU NO DIFFERENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT OUT THE STATEMENT, TO THE COMMUNITIES SAYING, "WHILE TRUCK STOPS PROVIDE VITAL SERVICES, THEY ARE ALSO A CAUSE FOR HARM TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS AND ENVIRONMENT, SUCH AS ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS, RELEASE OF BENZENE, EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC, DISTURBING NOISE, PROPERTY VALUE DECLINE, DAMAGE TO STREAMS, WETLANDS, WELLS, AND CRIME." HEALTH EFFECTS HAVE BEEN SHOWN IN STUDIES TO AFFECT RESIDENTS A HALF A MILE TO TWO MILES AWAY.
PROPERTY VALUE HAS SHOWN THAT AN AREA OF TRUCK STOPS ARE BUILT HAS DECREASED 0.2% TO 1.5% IN VALUE.
STUDIES HAVE SHOWN BY THE US EPA THAT DUE TO RUNOFF TO TRUCK STOPS, WELLS AND WETLANDS ARE AFFECTED ANYWHERE FROM THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILE TO TWO MILES IN RADIUS.
CRIME, FBI HAS PUT OUT A STATEMENT IN FROM 2020-2022 THAT AREAS OF TRUCKS STOPS HAVE BEEN BUILT, CRIME IS INCREASED 10%.
AT EXIT 45 TO TWO TRUCK STOPS, THEY ARE CRIME AS PRINCE GEORGE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS RECORDED CRIME HAS COME UP.
I ASK YOU, WHY DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER TRUCK STOP? LIKE I SAID, I'M ALL ABOUT THIS COUNTY DEVELOPING,
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THIS COUNTY MOVING FORWARD.BUT A TRUCK STOP AIN'T THE ANSWER.
RESTAURANTS, OTHER BUSINESSES, BUT NOT ANOTHER TRUCK STOP. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. COME FORWARD, MA'AM. WHAT DO YOU GET UP?
>> HI. MY NAME IS SUSAN MORGAN, AND MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT.
>> MY NAME IS SUSAN MORGAN, AND WE LIVE ON TARTAN ROAD.
WHICH IS THE ROAD DIRECTLY BEHIND, WHERE THEY'RE DOING ITS CENTER.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE.
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE PEOPLE DROPPING CATS OFF ALL THE TIME.
WE HAVE 14 CATS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP DROPPING THEM OFF.
IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE WITH A TRUCK STOP THERE.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT ANIMALS BEING HIT BY CARS OR TRUCKS FROM COMING IN AND OUT OF THERE.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE INCREASE OF ANIMALS BEING STOLEN.
THERE'S A LOT OF ANIMALS IN THE AREA THAT GETS STOLEN.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DID THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT ALL THOSE WILD ANIMALS, THERE'S RACCOONS, ALL THE ANIMALS OUT THERE.
WE HAVE VULTURES COME IN OUR FRONT YARD AND EAT.
THAT'S HOW ANIMALS ARE OUT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT THESE ANIMALS.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN OUR YARDS.
IT'S BAD ENOUGH WE HAVE TO FEED A BUNCH OF RACCOONS THAT COME IN THE YARD.
I HAVE HEALTH ISSUES, A LOT OF THEM.
ALL THIS POLLUTION IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR ME.
NO ONE'S BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THAT MOTEL THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
IT'S SO RUN DOWN AND THERE'S SO MUCH CRIME.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUND PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CAMPING OUT IN OUR BACKYARD, IN THE WOODED AREAS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE OF THAT WITH PEOPLE.
PEOPLE HITCHHIKING AND BEING DROPPED OFF.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT OUR LAND BEING ON FIRE, GETTING CAUGHT ON FIRE FROM ALL THESE FIRES.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT VAGRANTS THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THIS MOTEL OUT THERE IS REALLY IN BAD SHAPE.
THERE'S A LOT OF DRUGS AND A LOT OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THERE.
WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEBODY WHO HAD STOLEN SOME DRUGS, KICKED DOWN THE DOOR AT THE MOTEL, TOOK OFF, RAN INTO OUR BACKYARD, AND ACTUALLY WALKED IN OUR BACK DOOR.
WE WERE SCARED TO DEATH, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
THAT'S NOT THE ONLY TIME, ANOTHER LADY CAME TO OUR HOUSE, ASKED US TO HIDE HER DRUGS FOR HER AND SHE'D COME BACK AND GET THEM.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I'M HAVING TO DEAL WITH ALREADY.
NOW YOU PUT A TRUCK STOP IN THERE, JUST GOING TO GET A LOT WORSE.
I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THAT AREA.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GOOD THING FOR US AT ALL.
WORRIED ABOUT, THE WELL WATER, THE PROPERTY DECREASE.
WHAT BENEFIT IS IT FOR US? WHAT BENEFIT IS FOR THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA TO DO THIS? I DON'T SEE ANY. ALL I SEE IS BAD.
LIKE THEY'RE EVERYBODY SAYS, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER TRUCK STOP, ESPECIALLY NOT IN A RURAL AREA.
>> MIKE COVINGTON, 16121 NORTH BURROW LANE.
BASICALLY JUST SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE TRUCK STOP.
I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THE COUNTY ABOUT ALL THE TRUCK STOPS THAT ARE BEING APPROVED AND BUILT AND I'M ALL ABOUT PROGRESS AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO COME, IT'S INEVITABLE.
BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE RIGHT HERE, I DON'T THINK FOLKS WHEN THEY BOUGHT THAT LAND AND THEY DIDN'T BARGAIN FOR TRUCKS PARKED IN THE BACKYARD ON NIGHT AND DIESEL ENGINES RUNNING AND THE CRIME AND THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND ALL THAT, THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT.
I JUST LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO JUST THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU APPROVE THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE BETTER HOMEWORK ON IT, BUT I HEARD TALK THAT ONE HAS BEEN IN THE TALKS OR APPROVED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AT THAT INTERSECTION.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, HOW MANY DO [NOISE] WE NEED IN THAT LOCATION RIGHT THERE? THAT'S JUST WHAT I HEARD. LIKE I SAID, I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY DONE A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK ON THAT,
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BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST ASKING THE BOARD TO THINK ABOUT THIS BEFORE THEY MAKE A DECISION.>> MY NAME IS MARK GRUBS AND MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT 2100 COURTLAND ROAD, WHICH IS TWO PROPERTIES AWAY FROM WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE.
WE LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MS. DEBBY BRIDGEMAN.
SHANE WAS JUST UP HERE A LITTLE BIT AGO.
I'M AN OPPOSITION TO THIS THING.
AS A NUMBER OF OTHER FOLKS HAVE SAID, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF TRUCK STOPS.
WE'VE GOT THAT EXXON RIGHT THERE.
WE GOT DAVIS JUST RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD A FULL-BLOWN ONE.
WE GOT THE SUNOCO AND WE GOT THE BP, WE GOT PLENTY.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THIS TRAFFIC SURVEY THING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT AN ESTIMATED 3,400 OR MORE VEHICLES A DAY IS A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN AT NIGHTS AND MOTEL HAD IN A 24-HOUR PERIOD.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAD THAT MANY OCCUPANTS IN THAT MOTEL AT ONE TIME.
THIS THING ABOUT THERE'S NO IMPACT ON ROUTE 35 IS CRAP.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED STOPLIGHTS AND YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO WIDEN THE ROAD UP SOME TOO.
THERE'S NOT A MONTH THAT GOES BY THAT THERE'S NOT A WRECK COMING OFF OF EXIT 41.
THERE WAS JUST ONE THE OTHER DAY.
IT WAS A FAMILY IN A BLACK SEDAN, THEY GOT T-BONED RIGHT THERE COMING OFF OF 95 NORTH, AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THEY WERE GOING BUT THEY GOT CREAMED PRETTY BAD.
YOU HAVE A WRECK THERE AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH.
LET'S SAY YOU GOT THE DESIGNATED AREA FOR TRUCKERS IS TO GO ON 35 TO ENTER IN, BUT ON SUNNY BROOK, YOU GOT AN S CURVE IN THERE.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE TRUCKERS THAT MISS THAT? OR YOU GOT THESE EXTENDED DUMP TRUCKS THAT CRUISE UP THROUGH THERE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO MANEUVER IN THAT REAL SHARP S CURVE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF DUMPING THAT GOES ON ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT SOONER OR LATER YOU WANT TO RUN OUT OF PLACES TO DUMP ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S A LOT OF BRUSH AND TREES THAT HAD BEEN DUMPED THERE IN THAT S CURVE AREA.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THE TRAFFIC SURVEY, BUT THEY'RE WRONG.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO EXPAND THOSE LANES, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN THERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRAFFIC RACKS GROW EXPONENTIALLY AT THAT INTERSECTION.
WHEN THEY DO HAVE ONE, THEY SHUT THE WHOLE ROAD DOWN.
WE HAVE TO GO AROUND SPAIN OR TARTAN TO GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND BYPASS WHERE THE POLICE AND THE FIRE HAVE SHUT THAT INTERSECTION DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN LIVE, BUT I'M SURE YOU WOULDN'T WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TWO DOORS DOWN FROM YOU, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY BUSY AND AT AN ESTIMATED OF OVER 3,400 VEHICLES A DAY, [NOISE] THAT'S INCOMPREHENSIBLE FOR THAT AREA.
I DON'T EVEN THINK WE HAD THAT MANY AT EXIT 45, BUT THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN FELDMAN.
I OWN TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER OF THIS PROJECT.
I HAD GONE THROUGH THE WEBSITE AND SUBMITTED AN EMAIL PRIOR TO THE PLANNING MEETING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I HAD TO BE OUT OF TOWN FOR THE PLANNING MEETING.
BUT WHEN I WENT BACK AND LISTENED TO THE TAPE OF THE PLANNING MEETING, THEY NEVER BROUGHT MY CONCERNS UP.
THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE, REALLY, IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR A 30-FOOT WOODED BUFFER IS QUAINT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU NOW I'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR TIMES THAT NOW AND PEOPLE WILL WALK THEIR DOGS RIGHT THROUGH THERE, THEY'LL GO THROUGH THERE.
I'VE HAD PEOPLE GO IN THERE, GO INTO THE WOODS, CUT FIREWOOD, BRING IT BACK OVER TO THE MOTEL TO COOK OVER.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND IT'S THE PROFFER IS NOT IN THE SYSTEM NOW BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THEY NEVER BROUGHT IT UP AT THE PLANNING MEETING.
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BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS AN ERECTED AND MAINTAINED FENCE ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE, SO THAT IT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM CROSSING THROUGH THE WOODS THERE, BECAUSE JUST HAVING WOODS THERE IT DOESN'T STOP ANYBODY FROM DOING ANYTHING AT ALL.IN FACT, IF THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL OR SNEAK, EITHER THE WOODS [NOISE] JUST SHIELDS THEM FROM VIEW.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A HIGHWAY SITE AND THIS MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPROVED, BUT WITHOUT HAVING A FENCE THERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ENCOUNTERS, BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF ENCOUNTERS.
BUT WHEN YOU START TO QUINTUPLE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN AND OUT, THE ENCOUNTERS ARE GOING TO GROW AND THE POLICE ARE GOING TO BE THERE ALL THE TIME.
BUT I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
IF WE CAN SEE OUR WAY TO TABLE THIS UNTIL A PROFFER CAN BE PUT INTO ERECT DEFENSE ALONG THE BOUNDARY LINE, I'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
WE'RE STILL TAKING COMMENTS ON THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THAT RE-ZONING.
ANYONE FURTHER COMING FORWARD? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS RE-ZONING? HEARING NO FURTHER COMMENTS, CLOSE TO PUBLIC. I'M SORRY.
>> IF YOU'RE THE APPLICANT, AFTER I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU CAN RESPOND.
I AM CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD AND MR. GREEN. MA'AM?
DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS? MR. GREEN? DID YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD?
>> YES, MA'AM. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT?
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY, WOULD LIKE TO.
MY NAME IS KIM LACEY, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND HAVE THEIR PROJECT ENGINEER, CHRIS THOMPSON IS ALSO WITH US.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.
I DID WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS.
THIS WILL BE A SMALLER INDEPENDENT FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED CENTER.
THERE WILL BE OWNERS ON THE PROPERTY EVERY DAY.
MR. SINGH INTENDS TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY AND KEEP IT CLEAN AND WELL-MAINTAINED, AND REALLY VALUES BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND WILL BE THERE.
LIKE I SAID, THEY WILL HAVE AN OWNER ON SITE EVERY DAY.
THIS SITE WILL CREATE 30-50 JOBS FOR THE COUNTY, WHICH WILL GROW THE LOCAL ECONOMY, WHICH IS A BENEFIT.
WE HAVE COMPLETED A WETLANDS LINEATION AND THERE WILL BE NO IMPACTS TO THE WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY.
A NEW STORM WATER BASIN WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED.
THIS WILL CAPTURE AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF ALL STORM WATER RUNOFF FROM THE SITE.
IT WAS A LICENSED TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO DID THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
THAT STUDY WAS THEN REVIEWED BY VDOT, AND VDOT HAS APPROVED THE STUDY WHICH FOUND NO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND THERE TURN LANES WERE WARRANTED BY THE TRAFFIC COUNTS.
>> I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU BY NO MEANS AS YOU HIT A TOPIC, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WAS THE SAME INFORMATION GIVEN THE VDOT THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT AND THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS PER DAY?
THEY WERE PROVIDED THE ENTIRE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STUDY WITH ALL THE DATA, YES.
THIS REZONING TO B1 IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LAND USE DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL, AND CONSISTENT SURROUNDING ZONING.
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I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.AGAIN, WE DO HAVE THE PROJECT ENGINEER HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY ENGINEERING SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
>> YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THEM EARLIER AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.
OVERNIGHT PARKING, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE HOW MANY TRUCKS OVERNIGHT OR YOU GOING TO ALLOW THAT?
>> WE DO NOT HAVE SPECIFIC OVERNIGHT PARKING.
>> NO TRUCKS WILL BE THERE OVERNIGHT STAND IN THE YARD UNTIL THEY GO TO THEIR DESTINATION TO UNLOAD IT?
>> CORRECT. THERE IS NO LONG-TERM PARKING OR ANY RENTAL SPOTS FOR TRUCKS.
THERE'S JUST PARKING FOR PEOPLE VISITING THE CENTER.
>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE MANAGED BY.
>> EVERY TRUCK STOP THAT WE, AND SOME OF THESE WERE ALREADY ZONED FOR THAT.
THE FACT THAT IT COMES IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AND WE SAY, YES, BUILD A TRUCK STOP THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
IT'S ZONED FOR IT DOWN FOR 60, IF YOU EVER DRIVEN DOWN THERE, THOSE ARE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT THERE AND THAT'S WHY THOSE OCCURRED.
HERE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A REZONING REQUEST.
BUT EVERY TRUCK STOP THAT WE HAVE IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 100-200 TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT STAY OVERNIGHT UNTIL THEIR DELIVERY TO EITHER PERDUE OR FOODLAND DISTRIBUTION OR WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING, GETS THEIR APPOINTMENT THE NEXT MORNING.
>> YOU ARE ALLOWING 50 TRUCKS TO STAY THERE OVER NIGHT.
>> WELL, THOSE ARE THEIR PARKING SPACES FOR THE TRUCKS.
>> WE'RE EQUATES TO MOST TRUCK STOPS [NOISE] OFFER SHOWERS, LAUNDRY, STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEY PROVIDE YOU A PLACE TO PUT YOUR TRUCK WHILE YOU GET A FEW EAT, TAKE A SHOWER, YOU DO LAUNDRY, WHATEVER.
IN SOME CASES, YES, YOU DO SPEND A NIGHT IN A SLAVER IF YOU'RE OUT OF HOURS BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GET OFF THE ROAD SOMEWHERE.
THAT'S BASICALLY HOW THAT WORKS.
I'VE DRIVEN TRUCKS THROUGH OUT MY LIFE.
>> HOW ABOUT THE FENCE THAT GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP? IS THERE ANYTHING, MR. GREEN?
>> YES, I WAS JUST SPEAKING WITH THE ENGINEER AND THE APPLICANT AND WE ARE ABLE TO ADD THAT PROFFERED CONDITION, THAT WE WILL ADD A FENCE WHERE THE PROFFER IS SHOWING.
>> OKAY. MR. GREEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT?
>> IF THEY PROFFER TO BUILD A CERTAIN SIZE FENCE AND LINK FENCE, IT WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, MEANING THAT DEFENSE WOULD HAVE TO BE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
MY LEGAL QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS, CAN THEY AMEND THE PROFFER AFTER EFFECT OR DOES THE ITEM NEED TO BE TABLED?
>> WE WOULD NEED TO RE-ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE PROFFERS NEED TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER AS PART OF YOUR CONCERNS.
AS FAR AS THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THE TRUCKS.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE DRIVE HERE FOR YEARS, IT'S EASY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A GPS, AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT TO MISSED AN ENTRANCE, AND THEN YOU'RE STUCK WITH TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO TURN AROUND.
NOT ALL DRIVERS USE GOOD JUDGMENT OR WHERE DO YOU TRY TO TURN FOR 45 OR 53-FOOT RIG AROUND? I PROBABLY EQUATES TO THE LADY, SHE'S GOT HER MAILBOX KNOCKED DOWN THE YARD, RODE IT UP, BECAUSE THEY PICKED TO TURN IT COULDN'T MAKE IT.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, I NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FOR MYSELF, AND I NEED TO HEAR SOME MORE ABOUT LOOK AT BUT ALL IS GOING ON BEFORE.
>> YEAH, I'M FEELING THE SAME WAY TOO MR. WEBB.
>> I'LL TELL YOU WHAT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REZONE A B-1 OR SOMETHING TO B-1, BUT THAT DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE TYPE OF BUSINESS.
>> WHERE I'M GOING IS SOME OF THE AREAS AS MR. CARMICHAEL STATED, BUILDING OF CERTAIN THINGS WAS BY RIGHT, BECAUSE IF IT WAS ALREADY ZONED AND THINGS THAT WE HAD NO CONTROL OVER.
I'M ABOUT BRINGING BUSINESS TO THIS COUNTY,
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BUT I'VE HAD A SERIOUS GRIND ON MAKING SURE THAT WE LOOK AT EACH SITUATION AND MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, NOT JUST FOR TODAY OR TOMORROW, BUT FOR THE FUTURE.I'M NOT SAYING THIS IN A DISRESPECTFUL WAY, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE JUST DON'T ACCEPT EVERYTHING JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEING BROUGHT TO US.
I THINK AS A COUNTY, WE SHOULD HAVE TO SAY, WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT AND SAYS, IS THIS RIGHT? FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE.
I'M NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TONIGHT.
I'M ALSO HEARING ABOUT THE PROFFER CONDITION WOULD MAKE IT TO HAVE TO BE RE-ADVERTISE FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
I WOULD ANYTHING BE LEADING TO THAT WOULD BE A POSTPONEMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT I'M NOT READY TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT.
>> I THINK MR. CARMICHAEL HAS ANOTHER COMMENT.
>> I'M NOT JUST CREDITING TO WHOMEVER WANTS TO HEAR, THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE ON THE TRAFFIC.
I'M ASSUMING THE TRUCKS THAT STAY THERE ARE GOING TO TAKE A LEFT COMING OUT THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET BACK ON 95 NORTH AND OR SOUTH, PRIOR TO OR THEREAFTER.
MY DAUGHTER WAS INVOLVED IN ONE WRECK, KNOCK ON WOOD, AND IT WAS RIGHT THERE.
LEAVING SHAKERS RESTAURANT WHEN SHE WAS A JUNIOR IN SCHOOL.
THERE'S NO REGARD FOR SAFETY IN THAT AREA.
THE POLICE DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN DO WITH THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW IS HORRENDOUS.
I'VE WORKED AROUND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN THE TRACTOR TRAILERS ON THE PARKING, AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY TO HAVE THESE DRIVERS OUT THERE.
BUT IN THAT SPOT, I'M NOT AT ALL THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT SPOT FOR TRAVEL PLAZA AND FOR A REZONING FOR THAT AREA, IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS, IT'S GOING TO BRING UP EVERY CONCERN THAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE RESIDENTS.
YOU GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT PLACE ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO REZONE IT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING SAFETY AND KEEP IN MIND THAT OUR CITIZENS COME FIRST.
THEY WERE HERE FIRST, AND THEY CHOSE TO COME HERE AND LIVE, AND RAISE THEIR FAMILY IN A RURAL ATMOSPHERE.
FOR US TO DISRUPT THAT KNOWING, BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A TRAVEL PLAZA AT ALL, AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN HERE WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE THROWN ON THEM.
JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
NOT SAYING THAT CHANGES CAN'T BE MADE, BECAUSE THE AREA THAT WAS THERE AND IS THERE NOW, IT'S NOT THE MOST PLEASANT AREA TO HAVE TO GO VISIT OR EVEN GO BY.
THE PLACE DOES NEED TO BE CLEANED UP, IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE SAFETY IN PLACE AT ALL TIMES.
THAT IS A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION AND TO ADD MORE, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD JUST BE ADDING MORE FUEL TO THE FIRE IN THAT POSITION.
>> I THINK YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT, PLEASE DO.
>> WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS.
ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, WE WOULD APPRECIATE AN OPPORTUNITY AS MR. SUPERVISOR BROWN WAS SUGGESTING, IF IT'S A DEFERRAL OR A POSTPONEMENT.
IN ORDER TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROFFER IN THE FENCE AND SOME MORE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS OR MORE CONTROLS JUST TO PROVIDE MORE COMFORT TO THE COMMUNITIES, FOR THE CENTER, AND THEN ALSO A CHANCE TO PROVIDE EVERYONE WITH A COPY OF THE TRAFFIC REPORT AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IT WAS LIKE ONES.
>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WE HAD A DOLLAR GENERAL THAT CAME HERE YEARS AGO.
IT TOOK SIX MEETINGS TO FIND OUT WHERE THAT BUILDING WAS GOING TO GO AND THEY WERE ONLY GOING TO GET ONE TRACTOR TRAILER THREE TIMES A WEEK, IT WAS CRAZY, WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH AND IT DIDN'T GO WHERE INITIALLY WANTED TO.
IT HAD TO BE MOVED A COUPLE OF MILES DOWN THE ROAD.
IT HAD TO BE FACED IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION ALL TO HELP OUR COUNTY CITIZENS DEAL WITH THAT IMPACT THAT WE THROWN ON THEM.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED.
>> IF I'M IN ORDER SIR, IF YOU WANT THIS END OF MOTION, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE THIS ITEM, I'M GOING TO SAY FOR 60 DAYS AND WE WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT TO WORK THROUGH THE CONCERNS AND THE ISSUES.
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>> WE HAVE TO RE-ADVERTISE DOING THAT, MA'AM.
>> YOU WANT TO RE-ADVERTISE AT A LATER DATE.
>> WE HAVE 60 DAYS TO GET SOMETHING RE-ADVERTISE TO BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US.
THAT WOULD PUT US INTO JULY, THAT WOULD PUT US OR AUGUST MEETING.
>> I'M GOING TO OFFER SUGGESTION, WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR STUDY AS FAR AS ALLEVIATE IN ANY SAFETY CONCERNS OR HAZARDS AND ALL, YOU MIGHT WANT TO REQUEST THE SAME INFORMATION I'M GOING TO REQUEST, THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR CHIEF OF POLICE. HE JUST DON'T KNOW IT YET.
>> WHAT WAS THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT MR. WEBB.
>> I'M GOING TO REQUEST THE INFORMATION FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 12 MONTHS FOR THAT AREA FROM CHIEF.
>> I FIGURED OUT TO GO TO THE BOARD, SO I'M JUST BEING FAIR TO YOU.
>> IT'S TRUE ABOUT ONE TO ALLEVIATE SAFETY CONCERNS, IT STARTS WITH HIM.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE AUGUST MEETING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] CONTINUE OR POSTPONE OR WHAT TABLE? POSTPONE.
>> TO DIRECT STAFF TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT?
>> YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
NEXT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR CPA 23-02 REQUEST OF IT'S HIS LAND, LLC TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
>> GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, AND MS. ERARD, THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST OF IT'S HIS LAND, LLC TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS THE TAX MAP NUMBER THERE, 35-A 44-A, FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 14.8 ACRES IN SIZE.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE AT THE INTERSECTION WITH WEST QUAKER ROAD.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINE IN RED AT THE INTERSECTION ON THE WEST SIDE OF PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED, RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL, AS ARE ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT.
PROPERTY IS STILL HIGHLIGHTED HERE.
THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND IT IS PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU HAVE THE COUNTY-OWNED YANCEY TRACK PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND THAT IS PLANNED FOR SEMI-PUBLIC USES.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND THERE IS PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL AROUND THIS PROPERTY AND ON THAT PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW. YOU CAN SEE IT'S VACANT, IT'S GOT TREES ON IT.
THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE INTERSECTION, PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE IS ON THE RIGHT, WEST QUAKER ROAD IS ON THE LEFT.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONED R-A RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL SINCE THE COUNTY BLANKET-ZONED IT FROM A-1 AGRICULTURAL IN 1995.
PRIOR TO THAT, IT WAS A-1 GENERAL AGRICULTURAL SINCE THE COUNTY ADOPTED ZONING.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE ABOUT 1986 OR SO.
IT'S BEEN PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S BEEN NO MAJOR DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
THE WHOLE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS REALLY DUE FOR AN UPDATE AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS THAT IS COMING UP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
THIS APPLICANT HAS DIVIDED THIS PROPERTY FROM THE LARGER PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
THEY PLAN TO DEVELOP A MINI STORAGE FACILITY AND OTHER COMMERCIAL USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WHEN THE APPLICANT DISCUSS THEIR PLANS WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE, WE ADVISED THEM THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO A REZONING AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN ORDER TO DO A MINI STORAGE FACILITY ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WE TOLD THEM AT THE TIME DOESN'T CURRENTLY SUPPORT A REZONING FOR COMMERCIAL USE BECAUSE IT'S PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL.
HE ASKED WHAT COULD HE DO ABOUT THAT.
OF COURSE, WE TELL FOLKS WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE TO PROCEED WITH THEIR GOALS.
HE HAS THE RIGHT TO REQUEST A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT ESPECIALLY IF IT'S DUE FOR AN UPDATE.
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THE APPLICANT MADE THIS APPLICATION FOR THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.IT'S HIS LAND, LLC REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR JUST THIS PROPERTY, 14.8 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
IT'S JUST A DECISION OF IS THIS PROPERTY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON IT OR IS IT MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL.
THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN DECISION.
PLANNING AND ZONINGS REVIEW COMMENTS ABOUT THIS REQUEST OR THAT.
AGAIN, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE COUNTY IS DUE FOR AN UPDATE AND IT'S REASONABLE TO AT LEAST RECONSIDER FOR THIS AREA, SINCE WE'VE JUST GOT ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE AREA AROUND IT IN FRONT OF YOU, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE IT FROM RESIDENTIAL PLANS TO COMMERCIAL.
TO REVIEW THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU HAVE YOUR DESCRIPTIONS FOR EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES.
RESIDENTIAL IS EXPLAINED IN THE COMP PLAN.
AS AREAS WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA, WHERE SMALL LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ENCOURAGED, PUBLIC WATER AND OR WASTEWATER FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND REQUIRED FOR SUCH DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, IT'S INTENDED FOR SMALL LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IF SOMEBODY CAME FORWARD WITH A REZONING REQUEST FOR SMALL LOT ZONING, THEN THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN SUPPORTS RIGHT NOW.
THE CATEGORY THAT THEY WANT FOR THIS PROPERTY TO SUPPORT THEIR REZONING REQUEST IS COMMERCIAL.
THIS CATEGORY DESIGNATES AREAS WHERE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE OCCURRED AND WHERE FUTURE URBAN AND SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED, AGAIN, JUST WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES ARE GENERALLY AVAILABLE OR PLANNED FOR THESE AREAS.
PLANNING STAFF COMMENTS GO ON.
THIS PROPERTY IS SITUATED AT AN IMPORTANT INTERSECTION FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC PROBABLY NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT DEVELOPED, BUT THE ROUTE 156 PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE IS A MINOR ARTERIAL, THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHER CLASSIFICATIONS FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC YOU HAVE AMONG ALL THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY.
WEST QUAKER ROAD IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR WHICH IS JUST THE LOWER STANDARD ARTERIAL AS A LEVEL OF TRAFFIC CLASSIFICATION.
THE COMP PLAN CALLS FOR BOTH OF THESE ROADS AND THEIR RIGHTS OF WAY TO BE WIDENED IN THE FUTURE TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT'S EXPECTED OVER TIME.
GENERALLY, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH BEST PLANNING PRACTICES FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED WHERE THERE'S HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME AND VISUAL EXPOSURE TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES TO BE EXPOSED TO CUSTOMERS.
THE PROPERTY IS IN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA, WHICH IS THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED AREA FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
TYPICALLY IT'S INTENDED TO BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY IS PLANNED TO BE SERVICED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER AT SUCH TIME AS THEY ARE EXTENDED BY PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S IN THE UPCOMING WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE.
THIS WOULD BE AN AREA THAT'S SHORTER TERM THAN THE WHOLE PLANNING AREA, THIS IS THE SHORTER TERM.
THIS WOULD SUPPORT A COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE.
EITHER ONE, THE CURRENT OR THE PROPOSED DESIGNATIONS ARE APPROPRIATE WITH WATER AND SEWER DEVELOPMENT.
THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION WOULD SUPPORT A REZONING.
AGAIN, I MENTIONED THIS THAT CURRENT DESIGNATION SUPPORTS SMALL LOT DEVELOPMENT.
IN THIS PROPOSED CHANGE WILL CHANGE IT.
THAT IT WOULD SUPPORT A REZONING TO BUSINESS, TO BE ONE GENERAL BUSINESS, INSTEAD.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WAS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED CHANGE.
OUR BASIS FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION, THAT COMMERCIAL APPEARS TO BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY.
BASED ON VEHICULAR ACCESS, FUTURE UTILITY PLANS, AND CURRENT AND FUTURE ANTICIPATED LAND USES ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
JUST THAT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS IN THE COUNTY, WITH REASONABLE ACCESS TO PUBLIC UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
THIS WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
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PRIOR TO ANY PUBLIC FEEDBACK AS WELL.CONCERNS ABOUT OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS AND SPECIFIC LAND USES, [NOISE] CAN BE ADDRESSED DURING A REZONING PROCESS.
AS WE JUST EXPERIENCED AND ENDURING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROCESS.
JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE, THAT'S A TIME CONDITION.
APPLICANTS CAN PROFFER CONDITIONS ON HOW THEY WILL DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY.
OR THE COUNTY, DURING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION COULD PROCESS, CAN IMPOSE CONDITIONS.
USUALLY YOU WANT TO HAVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ALL PARTIES ON THOSE, OF COURSE.
BUT JUST THAT THIS, AGAIN, IS JUST A POLICY DECISION OF, DO YOU WANT COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL IN A PARTICULAR AREA? PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WAS DENIAL.
THEY HAD A THREE TO ONE VOTE ON MAY 25TH AS LAST MONTH.
THAT WAS FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THEY HELD IN APRIL.
BASICALLY, THEY HAD A VOTE IN APRIL, BUT IT WAS NOT VALID.
THEY HAD TO VOTE ON IT IN MAY.
BUT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS A MONTH BEFORE THAT.
THE REASON THAT THEY PROVIDED ON MAY 25TH, WHEN THEY SAID RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
THEY SAID THIS PARCEL IS SEPARATED FROM ALL THE OTHERS IN THE AREA AND SHOULD BE DENIED.
[NOISE] THAT WAS THE REASON THAT IS PROVIDED.
JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'VE HEARD.
PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLISHED IN APRIL.
STAFF HAD RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT IN OPPOSITION.
[NOISE] WE'VE PROVIDED THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR MEETING.
ALSO IT WAS PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT TO THE BOARD.
THEN DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SIX COUNTY RESIDENTS SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REQUEST TO CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
IT WAS ADVERTISED CONCURRENTLY WITH THE REZONING AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUESTS.
IS ALL ADVERTISED AT THE SAME TIME, ALL THREE OF THEIR CONNECTED REQUESTS.
BUT GENERAL, THERE WAS OPPOSITION TO WHAT WAS BEING REQUESTED.
THE MAIN POINTS OF CONCERN ARE SUMMARIZED HERE.
THEY'RE NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.
[NOISE] THE CONCERNS INCLUDED THE SAFETY OF HAVING AN INSURANCE SO CLOSE TO PRINCE GEORGE'S DRIVE, WEST QUAKER ROAD INTERSECTIONS.
CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION, THEIR CONCERN WAS INCREASED TRAFFIC.
THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE WIDTH OF WEST QUAKER ROAD, THE TRAFFIC FLOW ON THERE.
ONE OR MORE PEOPLE MENTIONED THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS BASICALLY TRAVELING ON THE ROADS IN SCHOOL BUSES.
I THINK AGAIN, THAT WAS CONNECTED TO THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD, I THINK.
TIMING AND THE QUANTITY OF NOTIFICATIONS FOR SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
WE FOLLOWED ALL THE STATE CODE REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS NOTIFYING ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS FOR EACH OF THE TIMES THAT IT'S BEEN ADVERTISED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE'S A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.
IS NOT REQUIRED BY CODE, BUT WE DO THAT, OF COURSE.
THE 14.8 ACRES, IS THAT ENOUGH FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLANS? I GUESS THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
SOMEONE COMMENTED THAT BOAT STORAGE CAN BE AN EYESORE.
THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR AT LEAST 100 FOOT BUFFER OF TREES BETWEEN HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
DRAINAGE CONCERNS. AMONG THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE, THOSE WERE THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP.
PRIOR TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, ONE COMMENT WAS RECEIVED, IN OPPOSITION.
THE CLERK PROVIDED THE STAFF AND THE BOARD WITH THE COMP ON THE INTERNET.
THAT IS A SUMMARY OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
YOU HAVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND OF COURSE IT'S PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE YOU DO THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, FLIP BACK TO THOSE SCREEN.
I'M NOT ARGUING PRO OR CON RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M CURIOUS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ENTER RIGHT ON TO PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE.
YOU'RE COMING OFF THE WEST QUAKER, CORRECT? I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY ON THAT.
>> THAT WAS THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN [OVERLAPPING] FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
>> IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MINI STORAGE AREA, YOUR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE A LOT LESS THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE.
IF YOU WERE TO BUILD THAT AREA OUT OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
WHERE YOU'D HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
COMING OUT OF ONE ENTRANCE BUT STILL ENTERING INTO THE SAME INTERSECTION.
>> WHICH THAT MAY AT THAT TIME DICTATE
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THE BEST ANSWER OF WHAT ROAD NEEDS TO BE WIDENED OR WHATEVER.TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DO NOT HAVE WATER SEWER OUT THERE AS OF THIS TIME.
PROBABLY WON'T BE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
THE COMP PLAN DOES NEED TO BE UPDATED.
AS FAR AS THE SAFETY FOR THE SCHOOL BUSES, AND ALL.
I'M ALL ABOUT SAFETY FOR THE KIDS. DON'T GET ME WRONG.
BUT I THINK YOU HAVE GOT MORE HOUSES WITH ALL THE LOGGING TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SAYING THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO DRIVE A PERSONAL VEHICLE.
ALTHOUGH WE GOT SOME IDEAS OUT THERE.
THE 100 FOOT BUFFER, IT MIGHT SUFFICE IF YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THE STORAGE BUILDINGS.
WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM UP HERE ON JEFFERSON PARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF ONE OF THOSE, MANY STORAGE BUILDINGS.
THAT ONE IS NOT COMPLETED YET, BUT THEN WHEN IT IS COMPLETED.
[BACKGROUND] I GUESS I'M CONCERNED IF WE KNOW WE NEED TO UPDATE SOME STUFF.
WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IT, BUT JUST NOT STIFLED EVERYTHING.
I'M NOT DISCOUNT ANYBODY ELSE'S CONCERNS.
IT'S JUST QUESTIONS I HAVE BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE STATED.
THAT'S PART OF MINE. I'VE GOT SOME MORE, BUT I THINK I'LL HOLD IT UP.
>> AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED OR YOUR KNOWLEDGE, IS THIS OUR FIRST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO COME IN FRONT OF US TO BE LOOKED AT?
>> NO. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RECENTLY OR OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE WERE TWO.
NOT A VERY COMMON THING, BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST ONE.
>> TOTAL ACREAGE THAT MAKE UP THIS ENTIRE UNIT OVER THERE, IS THAT AVAILABLE? OR IS THAT EVEN KNOWLEDGE THAT WE CAN HAVE OR WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE 14.8 OR WHATEVER THAT?
>> YEAH. THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IS JUST 14.8 ACRES.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY SECTION THAT WOULD [NOISE] BE LOOKED AT AS BEING CHANGED FOR COMMERCIAL.
>> THAT WILL BE JUST FOR THE STORAGE UNITS?
>> THAT IS WHAT THEIR PLAN IS FOR THE PROPERTY.
BUT THIS REQUEST IS JUST TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION.
STORAGE UNITS, WOULD POTENTIALLY BE DEVELOPED ON A PORTION OF THAT PARCEL.
OF COURSE, WE DIDN'T PUT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IN HERE.
BECAUSE THAT'S FOR THEIR REZONING AND THEIR SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST.
>> I WAS GOING TO MENTIONED THAT, THIS IS A PROVEN STORAGE UNIT.
>> CORRECT. THERE WOULD BE NO PERMISSION FOR STORAGE UNITS GRANTED.
IF YOU PROVE THIS, IT WOULD JUST CHANGE THE COLOR [OVERLAPPING].
>> TO THE BOARD, [OVERLAPPING] TO HAVE WHATEVER THEY WOULD WANT TO PUT ON THIS PIECE OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? YEAH.
>> BECAUSE SOMEONE COULD TURN AROUND AND CHANGE THE PLANS ENTIRELY.
THIS IS JUST A DECISION ABOUT COMMERCIAL VERSES RESIDENTIAL ON THIS PROPERTY.
THEY STILL HAVE TO NO MATTER WHAT TYPE OF REZONING IT IS, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO MAKE CLEAR TO, IS THAT THIS IS JUST STRICTLY A VOTE.
ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MODIFY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ALLOW THIS TO BE COMMERCIAL.
>> ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS, BUFFERS, INTERESTS.
ALL OF THAT GETS DISCUSSED AT THE TIME OF EITHER REZONING OR SITE PLANS OR THAT TYPE OF STUFF, RIGHT, SIR?
>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WHY DID YOU SAY THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THE REQUEST? WHAT WAS THE REASON?
>> IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ONLY HAD FOUR MEMBERS PRESENT DURING THAT?
>> THEY TRIED TO VOTE IN APRIL.
IT WAS INVALID DUE TO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE.
THEY HAD A REASON THAT THEY OFFERED AT THAT TIME.
I DIDN'T INCLUDE IT BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE OFFICIAL VOTE THAT THEY ENDED UP WITH.
AT THIS MEETING WHERE THEY MADE THAT VOTE, THERE WERE FIVE MEMBERS AND ONE ABSTAIN BECAUSE HE WAS THE NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
HE CHOSE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS CASE, BECAUSE HE WASN'T PRESENT FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ONE ABSTENTION THERE.
>> WHAT DOES THAT COMMENT? THIS PARCEL WAS SEPARATED FROM ALL OF THE OTHERS IN THE AREA AND SHOULD BE DENIED.
WHERE DID THEY COME UP WITH THAT? [NOISE] DID THEY ELABORATE?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ME. [NOISE]
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>> THANK YOU, MR. GREEN. OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED BY MR. GREEN.
WELL, FIRST DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP, I'M SORRY?
>> MS. HAMBY AND WELL, SHE'S MAKING HER WAY.
MR. BROWN, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE VOTE FOR THE NIGHT FOR EVERYONE.
>> THANK YOU, MS. HAMBY, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE?
>> MY NAME IS JUDY HAMBY, AND I LIVE AT 71 AD WEST QUAKER ROAD.
>> WEST QUAKER ROAD IS ABOUT THREE MILES LONG.
AT THE END OF WEST QUAKER ON 460, WHEN THE NEW SHEETS IS FINISHED, WE WILL HAVE FOUR TRUCK STOPS, FIVE RESTAURANTS, TWO CAR LOTS, AN ANTIQUE BUSINESS, AND SOME INDUSTRY, AND OF COURSE SEA CAM IS ON THE WEST QUAKER, AS WELL AS THE INTERESTS TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
BEFORE YOU USE THE EXCUSE THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BRINGS DOWN TAXES, OUR TAXES ARE NOT LOWER FOR ALL OF THIS.
WE HAVE ALL OF THAT AT THE END OF THE ROAD.
THEY WENT UP THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF REASSESSMENTS.
THE TAXES WILL ONLY BE LOWER WHEN OUR PROPERTIES DEVALUE BECAUSE OF COMMERCIAL REZONING TO BUILD THIS STORAGE UNIT, WHICH IS ALSO SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE AN OFFICE AND A RESTAURANT.
SO THAT'S ALL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
WE DO NOT NEED THE END OF 156 WEST QUAKER REZONED TO COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE IF IT IS, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE TO GET OFF OF OUR ROAD.
IF ALL THAT YOU HAVE ON 460, AND THEN YOU REZONE AGAIN ON 156 TO COMMERCIAL, WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK ON THAT ROAD UNLESS WE HAVE TO SIT FOREVER TO TRY TO GET OFF THE ROAD.
OF COURSE, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE HORRENDOUS, I'M SURE.
I THINK WEST QUAKER ROAD RESIDENTS HAVE CONTRIBUTED ENOUGH, AND I ESPECIALLY DON'T WANT OUR NEW NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVE A NEW NEIGHBOR WHO JUST BUILT AND YOU CAN SEE HIS PROPERTY IN THAT MAP.
I'M SURE HE DOESN'T WANT STORAGE RENT UNITS SURROUNDING HIS PROPERTY.
WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE BESIDE A STORAGE UNIT? THANK YOU.
>> I'M JAMES GLACIER, I LIVE IN 9601 NORTH FLORIDA COURT CHESTER.
I'M A LANDOWNER IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
I AM AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
THERE'S ENOUGH TRAFFIC ON 156 ALREADY IN EAST QUAKER IN WEST QUAKER, IT'S A NIGHTMARE ALREADY.
UNLESS YOU GO MAKE 156 TO A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY FROM 1460 ALL THE WAY TO HOPEWELL AND IMPROVE THE ROADS ON EAST QUAKER AND WEST QUAKER.
WE DON'T NEED MORE TRAFFIC ON THERE.
I'M ABOUT READY TO RETIRE AND MOVE BACK TO PRINCE GEORGE AFTER I LIVED HERE FOR MY FIRST 25 YEARS MY LIFE, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE FIGHTING MORE TRAFFIC, THAT'S ALREADY ENOUGH TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
IF YOU EVER JUST SIT ON THAT CORNER ROAD FROM 7:00 IN THE MORNING TILL 5:30 IN THE EVENING, IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
EVERYDAY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
BUT ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY IS JUST PLENTY OF TRAFFIC ON THERE. WE DON'T NEED MORE.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT LAST WEEK OR LAST MONTH WHATEVER, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ON IT NOW AND WE DON'T NEED MORE.
LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S NO WATER AND SEWER THERE.
YOU GET WATER AND SEWER THERE MAYBE IN 5-10 YEARS, OKAY, AND YOU WIDEN THE ROADS UP, OKAY.
BUT YOU DON'T DO THAT FIRST, DON'T APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU.
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>> HI, I'M ZACHARY GLACIER, AND I LIVE IN CHESTERFIELD.
BUT LIKE HE SAID, MY DAD OWNS THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE BESIDE THE ANSI TRACT, AND THE REST OF MY FAMILY LIVES RIGHT THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF 156 AND THE 238 ACRES RIGHT THERE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M OPPOSED TO CHANGING THIS FROM RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL TO COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO PUT A COMMERCIAL SITE.
I'M OPPOSED TO ANY COMMERCIAL SITE IN THIS AREA THAT CREATES A NEED FOR WATER AND SEWER AND THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT ON THE ANSI TRACT AREA OR THE CONVENIENCE CENTER DUMP ON THE ANSI TRACT AREA.
I ALSO DON'T THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO PUT A COMMERCIAL SITE THERE THAT CREATES THE NEED FOR WATER AND SEWER, WHICH CREATES THE NEED FOR THE TAX MONEY TO PUT THAT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ALSO, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT'S EVERYTHING THERE IN THAT AREA IS, LIKE YOU SAID, RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL, AND IT'S ALL OLD FARMLAND.
FROM WHAT I KNOW FROM BEING THERE IS THAT EVERYBODY IN THE AREA, THEIR MAIN CONCERN IS PRESERVING THE TREES AND PRESERVING THE WILDLIFE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS MORE COMMERCIAL OR WIDEN THE ROAD RIGHT THERE ANYWAY.
ALSO IN TERMS OF JUST LAND RIGHT THERE, THE BLACKWATER SWAMP IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
IN THAT PICTURE YOU CAN SEE GOING DOWN THE HILL, THERE'S A BIG LOW SPOT THERE THAT THERE'S A DITCH RIGHT THERE FOR THE POWER LINE.
THAT FLOODS TO BEGIN WITH, I THINK IF YOU WENT AND PUT CONCRETE AND ASPHALT RIGHT THERE, IT WOULD JUST MAKE ALL THE WATER A LOT WORSE IN THAT AREA, AND YOU MIGHT END UP FLOODING THE ROAD THERE MORE THAN IT DOES TO BEGIN WITH.
THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU.
>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THIS IS STILL A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THAT HASN'T SIGNED UP, COME FORWARD.
YOU CAN SPEAK NOW TO THIS P2 PUBLIC HEARING.
>> AFTER I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD AND TO MR. GREEN AND TO THE OWNERS.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS. YOU GIVE YOUR NAME.
>> YES, SIR. MY NAME IS TIM STUART.
I LIVE AT 13227 SOUTH CRATER ROAD.
BOARD, THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING ME.
FOR SOME OF Y'ALL, I GUESS I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL SOME OF Y'ALL, I DON'T.
MY FAMILY RUNS NANNY'S RESTAURANT.
WE TRY TO ESTABLISH OURSELVES AS A VERY REPUTABLE BUSINESS OWNER AND WE TRY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY A LOT.
AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, A LOT THAT WAS SAID ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO GO ON HERE WAS NOT TRUE AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING.
TO CLARIFY, THE ENTRANCE IS ON FRENCH STUART DRIVE, BUT IT'S NOT AT THE CORNER.
IT'S UP A COUPLE OF TELEPHONE POLES FROM THE STOP SIGN.
IT'S 2-300 YARDS FROM THE STOP SIGN.
IT'S NOT GOING TO INFLUENCE NONE OF THE WATER THAT SOMETIMES BACKS OF ALL OF US ON QUAKER ROAD.
IT HARDLY WILL BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD.
IT'S GOING TO BE HIDDEN BACK IN THE WOODS AT THE VERY BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
SOME MIGHT SAY BOATS ARE UGLY.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE BOATS, LOOK ON 106.
[LAUGHTER] YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANYTHING, [NOISE] IT'S GOT TREES ALL AROUND IT, IT'S GOING TO BE FENCED IN, IT'S GOING TO HAVE BUFFERS.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A RESTAURANT, THAT'S 10, 15 YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SOMEBODY SAID, "WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT DO WITH LAND IN FUTURE?" WE SAID, "WELL, WHO KNOWS?" MAYBE A RESTAURANT ONE DAY, WE DIDN'T KNOW.
IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN STONE BY NO MEANS.
THERE WAS POSSIBLY SOME OFFICES GOING UP FRONT ONE DAY.
IT'S JUST WHEN THEY ASK YOU WHAT POTENTIALLY YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO WITH YOUR LAND YOU HAVE, LET'S THINK MAYBE LONG-TERM, MAYBE THIS MAYBE THAT.
I GREW UP IN THIS COUNTY MY WHOLE LIFE, MY PARENTS GREW UP IN THIS COUNTY, MY CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL IN THIS COUNTY,
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MY GRANDSON'S GOING TO GO TO SCHOOL IN THIS COUNTY.WE'RE TRYING TO SPEND OUR MONEY IN THIS COUNTY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN DO.
WE JUST WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY, TO BE HONEST, AND I LIKE TO THINK WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS WE'VE BEEN INVESTORS. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MR. GREEN, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> BEFORE WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH ANY ACTUAL BUSINESS OR THING, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD AGAIN AFTER GOING OF FORWARD WITH PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. THEY DID SUBMIT A REZONING AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION, AND THOSE ARE WAITING ON A BOARD DECISION ON THIS COMP PLAN CHANGE.
>> BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE COMP PLAN.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING GOING ON THERE.
THE ONLY THING MR. STUART DID CLARIFY THAT ENTRANCE WOULD BE ON 156 NOT ON QUAKER ROAD.
>> CORRECT. AND THERE WOULD BE NO ACTION TAKEN ON THAT EVEN THAT DETAIL.
>> EVEN THAT. BUT THAT WAS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I THINK WAS GOOD TO HEAR.
>> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. CRAYS?
>> HERE IN MY EIGHT YEARS, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CASES, BUT SOMETHING THAT RINGS TRUE A LOT, AND I KNOW IF IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART, IT'S GOING TO GO RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD OR YOU'RE NOT EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER IT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT WE'RE EITHER GOING TO PLAN FOR PROGRESS, OR WE GOING TO BE PLAYING CATCH UP.
WE ARE BEING PLAYED CATCH-UP ON MULTIPLE FRONTS BECAUSE THIS COUNTY, PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE TO THE COUNTY AND IS GROWING A LOT QUICKER THAN WE ARE ABLE TO COMPENSATE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE INVESTING SO MUCH IN WATER AND SEWER.
THE FLIP SIDE TO IT IS, THE CASE IS THE MOST RECENT ONES HAVE COME UP LIKE WITH THE SOLAR FARMS, NOBODY WANTS THEM, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
[NOISE] THE PROBLEM I HAVE IN MY GUT FEELING IS IF YOU'VE OWNED A FARM FOR 30-SOMETHING YEARS AND THEN YOU FOUND A WAY TO GENERATE SOME RESIDUAL INCOME AND STILL KEEP THAT PROPERTY IN YOUR NAME FOR YOU TO PASS DOWN TO YOUR KIDS, WHO ARE WE TO SAY YOU CAN'T DO IT? IF IT MEETS YOUR CRITERIA AND THERE'S NO HAZARD TO THE CITIZENS.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE FROM NEW YORK COME UP, LOVE IT.
THEY SAID THEY MOVED FROM NEW YORK, MOVED DOWN HERE AND DIDN'T WANT IT NEXT TO THEM.
THEY WANTED PEACE AND QUIET, I GET THAT.
HOWEVER, WHAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE IS YOU DIDN'T PUT YOUR HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 10 ACRES YOU BOUGHT, YOU PUT IT UP TOWARDS YOUR FRONT AND IF THAT AREA WAS ZONED R1 FOR RESIDENTIAL, SO A DEVELOPER COULD HAVE COME IN, DEVELOPER COULD HAVE BUILDING PUT TO THAT PARTICULAR SPOT, PUT 250 HOMES IN THERE.
WELL, WE DON'T WANT THAT EITHER.
IT DOESN'T SATISFY EVERYBODY, I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT WE JUST DON'T PAY ATTENTION OR TRY TO WEIGH IT OUT.
BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME TELLING SOMEBODY IF IT'LL WORK AND IT'S NOT REALLY THAT HARMFUL.
THE AREA, THE DRIVEWAY HE JUST MENTIONED IS COMING OFF FROM 156, YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST A CLEAR SIGN OF SIGHT FOR THREE, 400 YARDS ON EITHER DIRECTION.
I KNOW THAT, I DRIVE THERE ALL TIME. I GO THAT WAY.
MATTER OF FACT I COULD GET AWAY TO GO TO DUMP ALL THE TIME.
BUT IT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION FOR SOMEBODY TO INVEST IN PROPERTY OR HAVE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY CITIZENS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY AND NOT WANT TO WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO COME TO SOME AMENABLE ENDS, SO THEY CAN GET WHAT THEY NEED, AND AS CITIZENS FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
THAT MAY NOT MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE, AND THAT'S ABOUT AS DEEP AS I'M GOING TO GET INTO IT.
BUT IT'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN WHAT I DON'T WANT MY BACKYARD.
I BUILT MY HOUSE ON FIVE ACRES OR GUESS WHAT? I CAN THROW A STONE IN MY NEIGHBORS NOW, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I ENVISIONED, BUT HEY, I'VE BUILT IN R1, SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
LUCKILY, I GOT GOOD NEIGHBORS.
>> IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION,
>> NO, JUST ONE. MR. BROWN HIT IT ON THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING WE HAD.
HAVING COMMERCIAL GROWTH IS GREAT FOR BRINGING IN REVENUE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE VISION OF WHAT TYPE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MR. STUART AND HIS FAMILY WANTED US TO REVISIT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON THIS EVENING TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT IT.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FAMILY THAT HAS RUN BUSINESS IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND MY PERSONAL DEALINGS WITH THEM AND A LOT OF
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PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR RESTAURANT AND WHAT THEY'D DONE TO THIS COUNTY AND COMING FROM A FATHER WHO'S VERY MUCH INDEBTED TO MAKING SURE THINGS GO RIGHT.RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT, HE'S NEVER GOING TO PRESENT ANYTHING TO THIS COUNTY THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE GIVING BACK AND DOING FOR OTHERS AND HE WOULD DEFINITELY NOT PUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE OR EVEN BRING THAT TO THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL KNOWINGS OF YOUR FAMILY AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS COUNTY.
MR. BROWN, YOU CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE MOTION.
>> YES, SIR. JUST TO STAY IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT, AND THAT IS MAKING A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME, I SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS REQUEST.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> NEXT IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONVEYING OF AN EASEMENT TO COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS FOR PURPOSE OF PROVIDING COMCAST SERVICE TO RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL.
I'LL BE VERY BRIEF, THE RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL HAS REQUESTED TO HAVE COMCAST SERVICE.
COMCAST, IN ORDER TO RUN THAT LINE, IS GOING TO HAVE TO RUN IT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AS SHOWN IN YOUR PACKET.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER CONVEYING THAT EASEMENT TO COMCAST FOR THE JAIL.
>> WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONVEY AN EASEMENT TO COMCAST TO RUN ACROSS TO OUR PROPERTY, TO THE RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL.
ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST CONVEYING AN EASEMENT TO COMCAST CABLE, TO RUN THE CABLE TO RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL? ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST RUNNING THE COMCAST CABLE EASEMENT OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, COME FORWARD AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? SEEING NO ONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, TURNING IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD OR COMMENTS OR MOTIONS.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, HEARING NONE I MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> MOTION BY MR. WEBB, SECOND, BY MRS. WAYMACK.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> GO BACK TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS]
WE'RE ON A1 AND UNDER TAB 9.>> YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
THIS ITEM IS THE APPROPRIATION OF THE FY24 BUDGET, WHICH THE BOARD DID ADOPT ON MAY 23RD.
WE'RE REQUESTING APPROPRIATION OF A BUDGET TOTALING $154,639,306.
THIS IS 5.3 MILLION LESS THAN YOUR ADOPTED FY23 BUDGET DUE TO THE ELIMINATION OF A NUMBER OF ONETIME CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THERE IS AN APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THAT REQUESTS APPROPRIATION BY FUND AND BY GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT, SPECIAL REVENUE BY FUND, SCHOOL FUNDING BY CATEGORY ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE AS YOU REQUESTED ON MAY 23RD.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> ANY QUESTION FOR MS. DURREY? HEARING NONE, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND HAVE BEEN MADE.
ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
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>> NEXT, MR. HALTOM WILL TALK TO US ABOUT A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE EASEMENT OF WATER LAND EXTENSION TO ROUTE 10.
>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
>> AGAIN, THIS IS DEALING WITH OUR WATERLINE EXTENSION TO ROUTE 10.
AS YOU KNOW THIS PROJECT WILL REQUIRE SOME PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENTS AS WELL, SOME TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS.
IN YOUR PACKET, I ACTUALLY SHOWED THERE'S ONLY THREE PARCELS BEING IMPACTED, IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.
TWO OF THOSE PARCELS HAVE THE SAME OWNERSHIP.
THESE PERMANENT EASEMENTS ARE NECESSARY FOR THE INSTALLATION AND CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OF THIS WATER MAIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING.
THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS ALLOW US TO DO SOME REMOVAL OF SOME LARGE TREES AS WELL AS DO THE BOERS.
THERE'LL BE A CROSSING ROUTE IN AS WELL AS JORDAN POINT TO ALLOW FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION TO OCCUR.
WE'RE STILL TALKING TO PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE WILL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO THESE THREE THAT WE WERE READY TO HAVE ACCEPTED.
WE WERE COMING BACK HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH TO ACCEPT THE REMAINING EASEMENTS ALONG THIS ROUTE FOR THE WATER MAIN.
BUT TODAY, WE'RE JUST REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THESE FOUR EASEMENTS TO ALLOW US FOR THE INSTALLATION AND CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OF THE WATER MAIN.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. EACH RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE MADE INDEPENDENTLY. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES, SIR. BUT THEY CAN ALL BE APPROVED AT ONE TIME.
>> OKAY. SO WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THREE RESOLUTIONS?
>> WELL, IT'S THE ONLY ORDER HERE.
YOU HAVE THREE RESOLUTIONS OF THAT ENCOMPASS ALL YOUR LOTS.
>> IT DOES. THERE'S ONE RESOLUTION FOR THE SAME OWNER, IT ENCOMPASSES TWO PARCELS.
>> I STAND CORRECTED. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE RESOLUTION APPROVING FOUR PIECES OF PROPERTY.
>> YOU JUST NEED THEM ACTUALLY TO APPROVE THE THREE RESOLUTIONS AS PRESENTED [INAUDIBLE].
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I SO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE THREE RESOLUTIONS PERTAINING TO THE ROUTE 10 WATER PROJECT.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THE NEXT ITEM IS AN AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND EMS, SICKNESS, AND ACCIDENT INSURANCE.
BEHIND TAB 11, THE TITLE OF THAT ITEM ON YOUR ISSUE AND ANALYSIS SHOULD READ, AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR FIRE AND EMS VOLUNTEERS, SICKNESS AND ACCIDENT.
THE RESOLUTION HAS THE CORRECT TITLE.
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE COUNTY HAS FURNISHED FIRE AND EMS VOLUNTEERS WITH THE ACCIDENT, SICKNESS, AND INSURANCE FOR EVENTS THAT OCCUR WHEN THEY ARE EXECUTING THEIR VOLUNTEER DUTIES.
WE ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS IN APRIL THAT RFP CLOSED ON MAY 9TH AND WE RECEIVED TWO PROPOSALS.
ONE FROM TOWN INSURANCE, THE INCUMBENT OR CURRENT INSURANCE PROVIDER, AND ANOTHER FROM CHESTERFIELD INSURERS CHIEF PAUL BEAMON, AS WELL AS LIEUTENANT GREG SAMPSON, MYSELF REVIEW THOSE PROPOSALS, SCORED THEM, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING AN AWARD TO TOWN INSURANCE, OUR CURRENT INSURANCE PROVIDER.
IT WOULD BE THE IDENTICAL INSURANCE COVERAGE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS.
THE TOTAL COST OF THE THREE COMPONENTS IS $52,009.86.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> DO WE NEED TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION YOU SAID?
IT'S JUST YOUR ISSUE AND ANALYSIS FORM.
>> I RECYCLED THAT ITEM FROM A PRIOR ITEM.
>> WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT, THEN.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
>> AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE REVISED EOP FOR THE COUNTY.
I THINK CHIEF BEAMON IS GOING TO SPEAK TO US IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
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>> HELLO AGAIN. LONG TIME, NO SEE.
>> CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M EXCITED TOO, I'M ONLY GOING TO DO A BRIEF LITTLE INTRODUCTION.
WE HAVE SOME POWERPOINT SLIDES THAT ARE BRAND NEW.
EMERGENCY MANAGER DEPUTY BEAR IS GOING TO GO OVER THEY'RE MAINLY AS A REFERENCE FOR YOU LATER.
WE HAVE QUITE A BIG PACKET THAT YOU CAN SEE FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATION PLAN.
MR. HUNTER, BEFORE HE LEFT, WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS ONE.
DEPUTY BEAR CAME IN, WE FINISHED THIS UP.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. HUNTER, FOR ALL THAT YOU DID ON THE FRONT END.
WE'VE MADE ONLY A FEW CHANGES TO THIS.
BUT ONE OF THE EXCITING THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS, AS YOU SEE WITH THIS BOOK, IT'S GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION IN IT.
DEPUTY BEAR AND MYSELF HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING ON SOME PLANS ABOUT THE EOC AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP DOING, MR. HUNTER AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEPARATE THIS OUT FOR EACH DEPARTMENT'S SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS.
THEY WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A SMALLER BOOK SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THIS.
IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THIS WILL BE DEPUTY BEARS' FIRST PRESENTATION.
>> CHAIRMAN HUNTER, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKES, IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT YOU MY FIRST PRESENTATION.
>> BRION GIVE US YOUR NAME AND TITLE, JUST FOR THE RECORD SO IT'S ON TAPE.
>> BRION BEAR, EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
>> YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME. I'M GOING TO JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS HAD A LONG NIGHT ALREADY.
SO I DON'T WANT TO HOLD YOU UP, BUT I GOT SOME STUFF THAT ARE PRETTY EXCITING THAT I THINK THAT YOU'LL BE INTERESTED IN.
THIS IS NOT A NEW BUSINESS FOR YOU'LL, YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.
IT'S HIDDEN IF YOU DON'T MIND.
FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SLIDE.
YOUR CLICKER IS NOT LIKE MY CLICKER.
CAN YOU, ONE MORE? THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONAL PLAN, YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THIS IS, IT'S THE BASIC PLAN FOR THE COUNTY TO KEEP THE COUNTY OPERATING DURING EMERGENCIES AND DURING DISASTERS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE FOR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
WE USE THE BASIC PLAN AND THE SUPPORT FUNCTION PLANS TO DO OUR FORMAT.
THERE'S AN ALL-HAZARD FORMAT THAT WE DON'T USE, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY USES AND IT'S QUITE EXTENSIVE. IT'S A GOOD PLAN.
THE ONLY MAJOR CHANGES THAT WE DID TO THE EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTION, THE COMMUNICATION WE CHANGE.
WHO WOULD BE THE LEAD ON THAT? OUR TEAM WAS THE LEAD FOR COMMUNICATIONS, BUT WE'VE MOVED IT TO THE DISPATCHERS AND THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER BECAUSE I DO THAT EVERY DAY.
OUR TEAM IS RIGHT THERE WITH THEM.
THEY'LL BE TAKING A LEAD JUST FOR THE PLANNING PURPOSES, AND THEY KNOW HOW TO DO COMMUNICATIONS EVERY DAY, JUST MAKE COMMON SENSE TO DO THAT.
THESE ARE THE ANNEXES, THE SUPPORTING ANNEXES THAT SUPPORT THE EOP.
THESE ARE THE SUPPORT DOCUMENTS LIKE SOPS, SUPPORT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONAL PLANS.
PERFECT EXAMPLE, THE ANIMAL SHELTER ANNEX.
THE ANIMAL CONTROL KNOWS WHAT THEY WILL NEED AND WHAT RESOURCES THEY WILL NEED AND ALL THAT IS INVOLVED, SO THEY WRITE THAT ANNEX.
THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT ANNEX OR GENERAL SERVICES KNOW WHAT THEY NEED, SO THEY WRITE THOSE ANNEXES.
WE DID ADD A NEW ANNEX TO IT BECAUSE GOING THROUGH THIS PAGE BY PAGE, THE MERCHANT OPERATIONAL PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL RESPONSE ANNEX.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE ONE.
WHAT I'VE DONE IS CREATED A COMPREHENSIVE HAZMAT RESPONSE PLAN TO GO ALONG WITH OUR MERCHANT OPERATIONAL PLAN.
WE HAVE HAZMAT TECHNICIANS WHO WERE PART OF A CRATER REGIONAL TEAM.
WE NEEDED TO INCORPORATE ALL THAT TO OUR PLAN, WHICH WE DID.
IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BULLET NUMBER 3, WHAT I ALSO ADDED WAS TO ENGAGE THE LOCAL INDUSTRIES.
THIS IS AN ACTION PLAN FOR THEIR FACILITY TO INCORPORATE IT WITH OUR RESPONSE PLAN.
THIS IS ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THIS PERFECT EXAMPLE.
ALL THE SHIFTS HAVE STARTED GOING TO THESE INDUSTRIES DOING WALKTHROUGHS.
WE SAT DOWN WITH THESE INDUSTRIES
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TO SEE HOW THEY'RE INCIDENT ACTION PLAN WHEN AN EMERGENCY OCCURS WILL MOVE SMOOTHLY NOT ONLY ON THE HAZMAT SIDE BUT FOR MEDICAL FIRE, WHATEVER.SERVICE CENTER METALS, WE'VE SPENT FOUR DAYS OUT THERE WITH THEM.
WE LOOKED AT THEIR PLAN AND LOOKED AT OUR PLAN.
THEY HAVE 25 CONFINED SPACES THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
THEY HAD US AS THE PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO COVER THEIR ENTRY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
THEY HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, SO WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD RESPOND OUT THERE, THEY WOULD GO OUT THERE AND NOT KNOW WHAT BUILDING.
THEY'VE MARKED ON THEIR BUILDINGS, BUILDING NUMBER 1, 2, AND 3, SO WE'LL KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT.
THEIR PLAN MIRRORS OUR PLAN, AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS KNOW THEIR FACILITIES NOW.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WE FOUND OUT FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS IS DO NOT GET ON THAT ROOF BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF INDUSTRIES THEY ARE, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY REPAIRING THE ROOFS BECAUSE OF EROSION MAKE IT A VERY UNSAFE FORM.
THESE ARE THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO FIND.
THEY ALSO TOURED THE FOOD LION DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
THE FEDERATION SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE, THE HAZARD IS INVOLVED IN THAT.
WE TOLD THEM WHAT HAZARDS THEY HAVE AND WHAT WE HAVE COMING.
WE'VE GOT HAZMAT TECHNICIAN IS COMING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE LEVEL ICE SUITS UNTIL THE FULL TEAM GETS THERE.
WHAT THEY DO, THEY PURCHASED THREE LEVEL ICE SUITS, WHICH IS QUITE EXPENSIVE.
THEY'RE ORDERING THREE MORE SO THAT WE CAN BE SUITED UP READY TO GO WHEN THE TEAM GETS THERE SO WE CAN MAKE A QUICK ANSWER.
THAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'RE BUILDING WITH THIS EMERGENCY OPERATIONAL PLAN.
WE'RE GETTING FUNDING FROM OUR INDUSTRIES THAT ARE SUPPORTING US, ALONG WITH THIS PLAN. HOW DID WE GET THERE? REALLY QUICK, I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS NO ONE PERSON HAS MADE THIS PLAN HAPPEN.
ADMIN STAFF HAS HELPED PUT THIS BOOK TOGETHER AND PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER.
THE FIRE AND EMS PERSONNEL INDUSTRIES HAVE HELPED US DO THIS AND WE'LL COVER THAT RIGHT QUICK.
CHAIRMAN HUNTER CAN TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE LACP HAS BEEN PART OF IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'S KEPT THE GROWING GOING, BUT LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN APPROVING OF OUR HAZMAT RESPONSE PLAN ARE EOP BEFORE IT EVER REACHED TONIGHT.
ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN THAT AND HELP VOTE AND LOOK OVER OUR PLANS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY MET PRINCE GEORGE NEEDS.
WE DO A TRI-CITIES REGIONAL COOPERATION FRAMEWORK.
ONCE AGAIN, CHAIRMAN HUNTER'S PARTICULAR PART OF THAT COMMITTEE.
WELL, BEFORE I GOT HERE THIS IS WHERE ALL THE REGIONS IN THE AREAS DINWIDDIE, COLONIAL HIGH TOP OF OURSELVES ARE IN PETERSBURG, HAVE MADE A FRAMEWORK WHERE THERE'S NO BORDERS.
WHEN AN EMERGENCY OCCURS, WE'RE GOING TO BE WILLING TO HELP ONE ANOTHER AND WE MADE THE DOCUMENTS PLACE, SO THAT EACH JURISDICTIONS EMERGENCY OPERATIONAL PLAN WILL FLOW SMOOTHLY, AND THAT WILL BE THERE FOR EACH OTHER.
SO ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
RICHMOND COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN WORKING A ONE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW AND THEN THEY CAN HAMMER IT DOWN.
WE'VE DONE ONE IN THE TRI-CITY AREAS WITH A WORK OF CHAIRMAN HUNTER, LIKE I'VE TOLD HIM BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DID THIS LITTLE PART-TIME JOB, BUT HE WAS ON A LOT OF COMMITTEES AND I SEE ITS INFLUENCE EVERY DAY.
WE DO THREAT HAZARD IDENTIFICATION RISK ASSESSMENT.
WE DO ONE AS A REGION THAT'S ALL HAZARD.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THAT ASSESSMENT.
BEFORE WE GO FURTHER IT'S EVERYBODY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION FROM RICHMOND ALL THE WAY DOWN.
I ALSO DID A RISK ASSESSMENT FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
WHAT OUR BIGGEST HAZARDS ARE? I DID WHAT? A FLOW STUDY, THIS IS DONE BY MYSELF, IT WAS DONE BY MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
THE TEAMWORK THAT WE HAVE HERE, PRINCE GEORGE IS INCREDIBLE, BUT THE FLOW STUDY THAT HAS THIS TERM MATERIAL COMMODITY FLOWS STUDY, IT TELLS US EXACTLY WHAT'S FLOWING HAZARDOUS MATERIALS THROUGH THE COUNTY.
YOU ALL DID ONE IN 2007 AND PAY THE CONTRACTOR DO IT.
HOPEWELL DID IT IN 2019 AND PAY THE CONTRACTOR DO IT.
WE WERE ABLE WITH OUR TEAM, BE ABLE TO PULL ALL THAT INFORMATION OUT OF THAT STUDY AND REACH OUT TO THOSE SAME PEOPLE, AND FIND OUT WHAT'S FLOWING THROUGH OUR COUNTY.
THE RAILROADS, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE COAST GUARD, ALL OF THEM WERE ABLE TO GIVE US THAT SAME INFORMATION, THAT WE PAY THE CONTRACT FOR, TO FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE FLOWING, SO WE KNOW WHAT OUR HAZARDS ARE THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL.
IF YOU ALL DON'T REALIZE IT ROUTE 10.460, OTHER PREFERRED ROUTES FOR HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM OFF 95,
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THAT THEY DON'T WANT THEM OFF THE MAIN STRAIGHT.ALL HAZARDS MATERIAL IF YOU THINK ABOUT PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS A LOT OF IT FLOWING THROUGH IT, BECAUSE THE HOPEWELL AND PREFERRED ROUTES.
SO OUR HAZMAT RESPONSE PLAN NOW WE HAVE IN PLACE, IS ABLE TO HANDLE THAT SITUATION.
THE OTHER STUDY THAT WE DID A HISTORICAL STUDY ON SEVERE WEATHER.
PRINCE GEORGE, PETERSBURG, HOPEWELL, AND COLONIAL HEIGHTS ARE CONSIDERED THE TORNADO ALLEY OF VIRGINIA.
IT'S HAD THE MOST TORNADOES COME THROUGH, IT'S HAD THE BIGGEST TORNADOES COME THROUGH.
NOW OUR PLAN WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS DOING OUR PLAN FOR SEVERE WEATHER EARLY NOTIFICATION SYSTEMS. WITH THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH OUR STUDIES TO MAKE AN IMPACT, WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SAVE LIVES AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN IT.
WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE TO MIMIC PUTTING THIS TOGETHER TONIGHT.
I KNOW YOU'RE ALL TIRED, IT'S GETTING LATE, WE'RE ALMOST DONE BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, I WANT TO SHOW YOU A CERT TEAM THERE AGAIN.
CHAIRMAN HUNTER HAS BEEN A PART OF THE CERT TEAM AND HELD IT TOGETHER DURING COVID.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD AS KEEPING PEOPLE ACTIVE AND INVOLVED IN IT.
WE ARE ABOUT 8-12 ACTIVE MEMBERS RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S PICTURES YOU SEE UP THERE OF A REGIONAL TRAINING THAT WE DID WITH COLONIAL HIGHEST, CHESTERFIELD, HANOVER, AND HENRICO.
THE CONCEPT IS TURN OUR 8-12 PERSONNEL 40-50 PERSONNEL THAT CAN RESPOND.
THEY PRACTICED DOING OUR WIDE AREAS SEARCH, LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY AND THEN YOU SEE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 40 PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DAY.
THE CONCEPT IS CHANGING SO WE CAN COME TOGETHER.
I WANT TO TALK A FEW MINUTES ABOUT OUR EOC.
WE'VE DONE SOME CHANGES TO OUR EOC TO MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL AND BETTER.
WE'VE REDONE COMPLETELY THE INSIDE WITHIN BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.
WE'VE GOT SOME PLANS FOR NEXT YEAR.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT WALL, THERE'S TVS THERE USED TO BE THREE, IF YOU REMEMBER IT.
WE'RE MAKING THEM FUNCTIONAL FOR A PURPOSE, YOUR COMPUTERS WHERE YOU HAVE THE WHOLE SCREEN TVS.
WE HAVE THAT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
THE TV TO YOUR LEFT HAS THE NEWS, SO WE CAN KEEP SITUATION AWARENESS, BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT THE CAD BEING ADDED TO IT.
WITH THAT RADIOS SYSTEM THAT WE JUST PURCHASED, REAL-TIME WE CAN TRACK ALL OUR APPARATUS, ALL OUR PERSONNEL WITH RADIOS, WHERE THEY'RE AT ON A MAP.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF I NEED MORE ASSISTANCE AND I'LL LOOK AT THAT REAL-TIME DATA ON THAT CAD SYSTEM.
SEEING THAT THE STATIONS ARE CLEARED OUT, ALL OUR UNITS CLEARED OUT, WE CAN GET RESOURCES FROM THEM SAYING, I NEED MORE APPARATUS OUT HERE.
IF YOU SEE THE SIGNS THAT ARE ABOVE THE WORK AREAS, THAT'S THE FUNCTIONAL AREAS FOR EACH DEPARTMENTS.
THEIR FUNCTIONAL AREAS THAT THERE'LL BE WORKING AT THEIR ASSIGNED SEATS, THEY'RE COMING IN AND READY TO WORK.
WELL, THAT OTHER WALL YOU SEE IF YOU NOTICE RIGHT ON THOSE TVS AT THE FRONT, THAT LITTLE BLACK BOX THAT YOU SEE THERE.
THAT'S THE WEATHERBUG THAT GIVES US THE INFORMATION WEATHER THIS GOING ON AROUND US, WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD IT, UPDATE IT TO THE TV THAT YOU SEE THERE WITH REAL LIVE RADAR.
WE HAVE A CAMERA THAT ON OUR WEATHER STATION IS NOT WORKING.
WE HAD PLANNED IN OUR BUDGET TO GET IT REPAIRED, SO THAT WILL GIVE REAL LIVE FEED OF WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US IN THE EOC.
IF I LOOK AT A CAD AND SEE THAT THESE GUYS IN A CERTAIN LOCATION.
I SAY LOOK ON THE CAMERA AND SAY, THE WEATHER DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.
I CAN LOOK RIGHT ACROSS ON THE RADAR AND TELL HIM REAL-TIME, Y'ALL NEED A BUNKER DOWN YOU'RE ALL GETTING READY TO GET HIT.
WE CAN MAKE PREDICTIONS FOR INCIDENT COMMANDER.
WELL BEFORE THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT'S COMING, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME CHANGES THIS YEAR TOO, LIKE YOU DO YOUR ZOOM HERE.
OUR CONFERENCE CALL WHERE WE CAN CONTACT VDEM REAL-TIME, SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED WHEN WE HAVE TO SEND AN EMAIL OR GO TO THE WEB EOC, AND WAIT FOR A RESPONSE.
WE CAN CONNECT TO THEM REAL-TIME TO TELL THEM WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.
WE CAN CONNECT THE REAL-TIME WITH IN EOC, SAY THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.
CAN YOU HELP US? OR WHAT DO YOU ALL NEED SO WE CAN DO REAL-TIME INTERACTION WITH THEM.
SO WE'VE COMPLETELY UPDATE THE EOC READY AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
THE LAST THING I GOT FOR YOU BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
I MUST BE THE BLACK CLOUD OF RESPONSES.
THE FIRE SERVICE CALLS FOR THOSE WHO RUN CALLS ALL THE TIME, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN FEBRUARY, I'VE BEEN ACTIVATED SEVEN TIMES FOR REPORTABLE INCIDENT, FOR REPORTABLE HAZMAT.
WE OPEN UP THE SHELTER ONE TIME
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WE'VE BEEN STAYING PRETTY BUSY SINCE I'VE COME ON BOARD IN FEBRUARY, BUT I ENJOY THAT.I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
WE'RE LATE, YOU'RE TIRED, BUT IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE NEED BOARD APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR EOP.
ALL THE STUFF THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH, THAT ABEA WENT THROUGH IS SEMI-IN-THE-PLAN, WE WERE PROUD OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
WE DID DO AN ALL-HAZARD ANALYSIS WHERE YOU GOT LUCKY BECAUSE THE RICHMOND AREA ALSO DID ALL-HAZARD ANALYSIS SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A LOT OF THAT STUFF AND APPLY IT TO HERE.
IT'S ONLY A FEW UPDATES TO IT, WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW OFF THE EOC.
THE OTHER THING I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY TESTING OUT SOMETHING WITH OUR BATTALION CHIEFS IN THEIR VEHICLE, THEY HAVE CAMERAS TO WEAR.
WHEN YOU GUYS REPORT TO THE EOC, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE INCIDENT WE'LL HAVE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR CAMERAS AND THEIR VEHICLES AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE SCENE AS IT'S HAPPENING.
WE'RE TESTING THAT THERE AS WELL, AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR NOW, AT MOST EVERYTHING IN YOUR EOP IS ROUGHLY THE SAME.
WE UPDATED SOME PHONE NUMBERS, SOME CONTACTS, REASSIGNED SOME ESF FUNCTIONS, WHICH LOOKING FOR BOARD APPROVAL SO WE CAN SEND IT TO VIRGINIA AND MOVE FORWARD.
>> I THINK IT'S GREAT WORK. I DID NOT READ IT ALL I KNOW, BUT HONESTLY, THAT'S A THIRD BOOK.
I HAVE SKIMMED IT, BUT I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ EVERY PAGE.
>> BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT HAZMAT AND HAZMAT IS ONLY A SMALL LITTLE FUNCTION IN THAT EOP.
BUT THE FLOW STEADY HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS ALL THE INFORMATION COMING THROUGH AND ALL THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS THAT COMES THROUGH PRINCE GEORGE.
PRINCE GEORGE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY HAZMAT TECH.
IF YOU REMEMBER MY BACKGROUND, I CAME FROM A HAZMAT DEPARTMENT.
NOW WE HAVE SEVEN HAZARDOUS MATERIAL TECHNICIANS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND WE ARE SLOWLY BECOMING MORE AND MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS.
ON THE SEVEN INSTANCES HE HAS BEEN CALLED OUT TO, VDEM HAS RESPONDED TO A COUPLE OF THEM, BUT ONLY BECAUSE WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE THOSE SITUATIONS PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE BEEN SENDING.
I'VE BEEN SENDING PEOPLE TO ALABAMA FOR FIRE COLLEGE TO GET THE CERTIFICATION CLASSES.
EOP IT WAS ALREADY WELL-WRITTEN BEFORE WE GOT TO IT, WE JUST TWEAKED IT.
>> THE OTHER COMMENT THAT I'LL ADD TO IT IS WE'VE ALREADY SENT IT TO VDEM.
VDEM HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT IT AND APPROVED IT, AND IT'S HAPPY WITH IT.
A MATTER OF FACT VDEM WAS HERE ON FRIDAY TO LOOK AT OUR EOC.
THEY WERE EXTREMELY EXCITED OVER IT.
HOPEWELL WAS HERE ON THURSDAY TO LOOK AT OUR EOC.
THEY'RE STEALING SOME OF OUR IDEAS TO BETTER THEIR EOC.
THE VDEM GAVE US SOME CHANGES TO MAKE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS BECAUSE THEY SEE STUFF THAT IS COMING DOWN, BUT WE HAVE FOUR YEARS TO GO LINE BY LINE, WORD BY WORD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE EVEN HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT NEXT GO AROUND FOR YOU.
>> IT'S ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
>> EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A DEPARTMENT CHANGE ANYTHING SO IT'S A CONTINUOUS WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT GOOD JOB, I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
>> VERY DETAILED WITH THE TAB.
MR. WEBB SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO READ THAT ENTIRE BOOK.
BUSY SCHEDULES PEOPLE HAVE, BUT YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO, PUT THE TABS IN DETAILS THAT YOU GOT TO SEARCH.
>> LIKE I SAID EARLIER I'M MORE THAN EXCITED BECAUSE IF YOU WORK FOR GENERAL SERVICES, GENERAL SERVICE WILL HAVE THAT WHOLE BOOK, BUT THEY WILL ALSO HAVE A BOOK THAT ONLY RELATES TO THEM OF WHAT'S IN THAT BOOK.
>> THEY'LL HAVE A THUMB DRIVE, IT WILL BE SITTING THERE AT THEIR PLACE WHEN THEY GO IN, THEY WILL HAVE ALL THE CHECKLISTS, ALL THE FORMS, EVERYTHING WILL BE IN IT SO THAT THEY WILL HAVE EVERYTHING ACCOMPLISHED, FOR THEIR REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FILL OUT THOSE FORMS TO GET REIMBURSED.
WE WILL MAKE SURE THOSE FORMS ARE PROPERLY FILLED OUT SO THE COUNTY CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR ANY NATIONAL DISASTER, ANY STATE DISASTER THAT WE'LL SEE.
>> REMEMBER THIS WAS A TEAM EFFORT.
IT'S NOTHING ON ME, IT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER ORGANIZATION AND OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED.
>> MR. CHAIR, YOU NEED A MOTION?
>> WE NEED A MOTION AND ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION.
>> I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION.
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YOU SECOND IT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> I DON'T THINK IT WORKS THAT WAY. [OVERLAPPING].
>> I HAVE REVERTED BACK. [LAUGHTER]
>> GOOD JOB ON YOUR FIRST. [OVERLAPPING].
>> THANK YOU, SIR, SEE THAT ALL THE TIME WITH THE EM [OVERLAPPING]
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>> WELL, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE, MS. ERARD.
IF YOU'RE READY, I'LL PROCEED THERE, MR. HUNTER.
>> YES, ARPA FUNDS GO FORWARD.
>> YES, SIR. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THE END, I'LL BE GLAD TO FURTHER THE CONVERSATION AND ANSWER THOSE.
JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, ON MARCH 14TH, YOU OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUTHORIZED YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO APPLY FOR A DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT GRANT FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $233,000.
I'D LIKE TO PAUSE BRIEFLY AND JUST THANK DEVIN REED OUR PD ACCREDITATION MANAGER FOR HER WORK ON THIS, AND ALWAYS MS. BETSY JURY FOR ALL HER HARD WORK.
WE RECEIVED STATEMENT OF GRANT AWARD ON JUNE 7TH.
THESE FUNDS WILL BE APPROPRIATE TO FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND WILL BE USED TO PURCHASE FORENSIC DATA EXTRACTION AND TECHNOLOGY FOR MOBILE DEVICES, A TACTICAL ROBOT, AND FLAT CAMERAS.
THE REQUEST TO THE BOARD IS APPROPRIATION OF THE DCGS ARPA FUNDS TOTALING $233,000.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A DRAFT RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU.
>> DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF?
>> HEARING NONE AND A MOTION TO ACCEPT RESOLUTION IS PRESENTED.
>> HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL.
>> IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE A6 IS A RESOLUTION FOR OUR BUDGET TRANSFER FROM THE SERIES 2019 BOND PROCEEDS FOR $19,710.
I WENT OVER THIS EARLIER ABOUT THE GENERATOR THAT WE FOUND, WE NEED TO CONVERT TO A THREE-PHASED GENERATOR SO WE CAN USE IT AT STATION 8 SO I'D LIKE TO WELL UPGRADE.
[NOISE] I'M LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
>> I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
>> IT'S ALL MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> WE HAVE NOW A RESOLUTION PROVEN OF A POLICY TO CHANGES FOR RECORDS REQUESTS.
>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS COMPLIES WITH THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A POLICY INDICATING HOW WE CHARGE FOR FOIA REQUESTS.
IT FULLY COMPLIES WITH THE LAW, BUT ALSO ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE COSTS DO TEND TO CHANGE OVER TIME AND SO I WOULD ASK FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE IT THIS EVENING.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SARAH?
>> ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
>> IT'S ALL MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. WEBB.
>> WE NOW HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR APPOINTMENTS FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
FIRST, WE HAVE ONE FOR DISTRICT 19.
I UNDERSTAND THAT MRS. GRAHAM IS INTERESTED IN CONTINUING WITH HER APPOINTMENT, SO I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT OR REAPPOINT HER TO DISTRICT 19.
>> IT'S ALL MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THAT ROLL, PLEASE.
>> YES. NEXT, WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS TO APPOINT THREE MEMBERS TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION.
THERE'S THREE PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY SERVE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE REAPPOINTED, LARRY HIGDON, JAMES WILLIAMS, AND DONALD HUNTER.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> NEXT WE HAVE A VACANCY ON THE BOARD FOR THAT MEDICAL REGIONAL BOARD, EXCUSE ME.
THE GENTLEMAN, MR. THOMAS, WHOSE CURRENTLY TERM EXPIRED,
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WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN BEING REAPPOINTED, WE HAVE NOBODY RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME.>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE THIS FOR 60 DAYS TOO LONG.
>> OKAY. UNTIL WE GET APPLICATIONS.
>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT WILLIAM A. WALTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. MS. ARAH.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
ON JUNE THE 5TH, THE SCHOOL BOARD DECLARED THE FORMER WALTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROPERTY AS SURPLUS.
THEY APPROVED THE STATUTORILY REQUIRED RESOLUTION AND IN ORDER FOR THE PROPERTY TO CONVEY TO THE COUNTY, THE BOARD NEEDS TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING IT.
MR. STOKE HAS INDICATED THAT BECAUSE OF THE ARRANGEMENTS FOR UTILITIES AND THINGS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY EFFECTUATE THE TRANSFER JUNE THE 30TH.
>> THERE IS COORDINATES FOR ACCEPTING THAT.
>> ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED.
>> IT IS A RESOLUTION. MS. ARAH, THANKS SO MUCH.
>> IT'S A RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
ALL IN FAVOR WE'LL CALL THE ROLL.
>> YES. [LAUGHTER] NOW, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, MS. ERARD.
I WAS ASKED TO COME THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY.
TWO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD DID BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE.
CURRENTLY, THE COUNTY DOES FOLLOW THE STATE OF VIRGINIA'S HOLIDAY SCHEDULE AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE EMPLOYEES OFF ON JULY THE 4TH, WHICH IS A TUESDAY.
THE BOARD CAN ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOLIDAYS IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE STATE GIVES.
IF THE BOARD DOES APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY, PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYEES WOULD RECEIVE THE ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY REPAY TO USE IT AT ANYTIME.
THE COURT DOESN'T ALWAYS FOLLOW THE COUNTY, SO IF THOSE EMPLOYEES DO HAVE TO WORK, THE EMPLOYEES WOULD RECEIVE EIGHT HOURS OF ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE TO USE LATER.
MR. REY DID SHARE THE COST OF WAGES AND THE HOLIDAY REPAID WITH THE BOARD A FEW WEEKS AGO.
THAT WAS CALCULATED AT A DAY'S PAY OR ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY REPAY FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.
JULY 1ST SALARIES WERE USED IN THAT CALCULATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS.
>> FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU MIND STATING THE TOTAL AMOUNT?
>> I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
>> NINETY-FIVE AND SOME CHANGE.
>> NINETY-FIVE THOUSAND AND SOME CHANGE.
>> YES SIR, 95,584 AND THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY A DAY'S PAY BUT THE CORRESPONDING BENEFITS.
THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THAT IS 85,584, OTHER FUNDS IS 10,000.
>> NUMBER 1, THE INK'S NOT EVEN DRY ON A BUDGET WE JUST APPROVED, AND THIS WAS NOT APPROPRIATE IN YOUR BUDGET, NOR HAS THE STATE APPROVED THIS HOLIDAY, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, WE ALWAYS FOLLOW THE STATE.
CURRENTLY, I THINK IN OUR COUNTIES WE HAVE 14 HOLIDAYS.
THE CONCERN I HAVE IS, THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT OF CONTINGENCY NUMBER 1, OR WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE, I THINK IT WAS DIRECTED THERE OR INDICATED BE TAKEN OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.
>> NO, I THINK WE GOT TO PAUSE ON THAT FOR A SECOND.
>> THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST FOR THIS, MR. WEBB.
>> WHERE'S THE 95,000 COMING FROM, MYSTERY?
>> IT'S IN PEOPLE'S SALARIES, YOU'RE JUST GRANTING THEM ANOTHER HOLIDAY DAY OFF.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'LL STAND CORRECTED.
>> THE CONCERN I HAVE IS, TWO CONCERNS, YOU HAVE OPTIONS; YOU CAN TAKE A DAY OFF WITHOUT PAY, YOU CAN TAKE COMP TIME, OR YOU COULD TAKE A VACATION DAY.
THE BIGGEST QUESTION I GOT OR CONCERN I GOT IS, NEXT YEAR'S LEAP YEAR, NEXT YEAR, THE FOURTH WILL BE ON THURSDAY, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE WHEN THAT ROLLS AROUND
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NEXT YEAR BECAUSE I MAY VERY WELL BE SITTING UP HERE AND I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS.
>> THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE SITTING BOARD AT THAT TIME OR WHETHER THEY WANT TO GRANT THEIR EMPLOYEES AN EXTRA DAY OFF.
THERE CAN STILL BE MORE DISCUSSION, IF THERE'S NOT, I REQUESTED THIS TO BE ADDED.
OUR EMPLOYEES DO A GREAT JOB EVERY SINGLE DAY.
EVER SO OFTEN, WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE DID IT WAS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO WHERE THE WAY CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY FELT, WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE AN EXTRA DAY.
EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD HAD GOT UP HERE DURING BUDGET WORK SESSIONS AND REQUESTED EXTRA PEOPLE FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT TO BE ADDED, WE WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT.
THEY'RE WORKING TWICE AS HARD IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS TO COVER THE VOID OF THEIR SHORTFALL THAT WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO HIRE EXTRA PEOPLE TO GIVE THEM SUPPORT.
IT'S A GREAT TIME FOR THEIR FAMILIES, IT'S A GREAT STARTUP FOR THE SUMMER.
THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS ALREADY HAVE THEIR PLANS, OR THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR PLANS, BUT MOST SCHOOLS ARE ALL CLOSED AND ALL OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE OFF AS WELL.
BUT I LIKE TO SEE THE EMPLOYEES GET A LONG BREAK OF STARTING UP THE BUILDING AND SHUTTING IT DOWN ON A FRIDAY AND REOPENING IT BACK UP ON A MONDAY, AND SHUTTING IT DOWN MONDAY EVENING JUST TO RESTART IT BACK UP.
THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES THAT WON'T BE ON THE ROAD, THE WEAR AND TEAR ON VEHICLES IN FUEL COSTS AND ELECTRICITY COSTS OF SHUTTING IT DOWN, AND JUST FOR THE SIMPLE FACT, THERE IS A SAVINGS TO THIS AS WELL, MORE SO THAN A COST, BUT IT'S JUST AN EXTRA THANK YOU FOR OUR EMPLOYEES FOR THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO.
THEY CAN GO AND PLAN FOR THEIR FAMILY AND HAVE A LONG FOUR-DAY WEEKEND, AND ENJOY THE 4TH OF JULY.
THIS THING MAY NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, IT'LL BE UP TO THE SITTING BOARD TO DECIDE, AS YOU SAID NEXT YEAR, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE THAT ON JANUARY 1ST OR THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY WHEN WHOEVER EVER SITTING HERE CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO ADD AN EXTRA DAY THEN.
BUT WE WAITED TO LOOK AT HOW THIS COUNTY IS RUNNING, IF WE LOOK AT THE QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT ARE GIVEN TO US, EACH DEPARTMENT IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB AND BY NO MEANS A MASSIVE STATE THAN ANY OF MY BOARD MEMBERS WOULD SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE.
THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE AND WE'LL SEND IT TO A VOTE, IF IT HAPPENS, IT HAPPENS, IF IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, BUT IT WOULD BE JUST AN EXTRA THANK YOU FOR SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FILL THAT THEY REQUESTED AND FOR THE EXTRA HARD WORK THAT THEY ALL HAVE BEEN DOING.
IT'LL BE A GREAT START TO A NEW BUDGET SEASON, AS YOU SAID, JULY 3RD, IT'S THE DAY WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM.
I HOPE THEY ENJOY EVERY BIT OF IT, IF THIS THING SHOULD PASS.
THIS IS IN NO WAY A KNOCK ON ANYBODY, THEIR WORK OR NOT BEING APPRECIATED.
MY CONCERN IS WE SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE WERE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE STATE HOLIDAYS.
THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY BE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO WORK BECAUSE ON THAT DAY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GIVEN THAT DAY OFF, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN HERE ANYWAY.
THE BUILDING IS STILL GOING TO NEED TO BE HEATED OR COOLED OR WHATEVER.
MY THING IS, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE EARN COMP TIME OR THEY EARN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CALLED PTO OR VACATION HERE, BUT I KNOW IF I PERSONALLY WANT TO TAKE OFF THAT DAY FROM MY JOB AND IT'S NOT A RECOGNIZED HOLIDAY, WHICH WE ONLY GET ABOUT SIX, I USE MY PTO.
THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT TO THAT, IS I RESPECT WHAT EVERYBODY DOES HERE IN THIS COUNTY, BUT AGAIN, BACK FROM EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CONSISTENCY AND DOING STUFF THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD, WE JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT.
I JUST THINK MORE THOUGHT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THAT WHEN WE SET ASIDE HOLIDAYS AT THE BEGINNING IN JANUARY AND OUR REORGANIZATION MEETING. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.
>> IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM INDICATED, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT CITIZENS DO NOT GIVE US 100%.
HOWEVER, THE SALARIES ARE PAID BY THE CITIZENS.
I REPRESENT THE CITIZENS THE BEST I CAN, NOT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH ME, I'M SURE SOMEBODY WOULD TELL YOU THEY DON'T, AND THAT'S FINE, THAT'S WHAT IT IS, BUT TO DO THIS AND NOT HAVE A PLAN GOING FORWARD, I THINK IT'S THE OTHER ADVICE.
WE'VE HAD OTHER REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME TO US, AND WE HAVE ALREADY DENIED IT, AND WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS BUDGET AND THIS BUDGET SHOULD STAY FIXED.
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WE GOT 100,000 CONTINGENCY AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR EMERGENCIES, AND WE JUST APPROVE IT TONIGHT AND RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE ANOTHER $95,000.I DON'T SEE WHERE THE GAINS ARE, I SWEAR I DON'T.
I'D STILL LIKE TO KNOW WITH THE WISDOM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO A LEAP YEAR, NEXT YEAR WHEN IT COMES BACK AROUND TO THURSDAY?
>> THAT'S UP TO THE SITTING BOARD TO DECIDE [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE, SO WHY DON'T YOU SHARE IT WITH ME?
>> I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEY MAY DECIDE NOT TO EVER DO IT AGAIN.
>> I'M PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA AS A MOTION AND WE'LL SEE WHERE IT FALLS.
>> I RESPECT EVERYONE'S OPINION, THAT'S MINE.
>> SIR WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY POLICY, THIS IS JUST A ONE-TIME THING?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN ALLOWING OUR COUNTY TO HAVE JULY 3RD OFF AS AN EXTRA HOLIDAY.
>> THANK YOU, YOU HAVE A MOTION. GOT A SECOND?
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL.
>> THAT'S THE LAST ITEM WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE JULY MEETING.
>> I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T WAIT FOR THE DATE.
YES, YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> MEETING'S ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.