May 09, 2023 Regular Meeting

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ALL RIGHT, IT'S 6:00 ON MAY THE 9TH AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

I'M CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER.

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?

[WORK SESSION]

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. WE'RE GOING TO PULL UP THE PROJECTOR AND I'LL BE ON CLERK TWO.

A COPY OF THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKET, BUT WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO YOU BY EMAIL THIS MORNING BASED ON A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM CHESTERFIELD FIRE AND EMS TODAY.

THAT WAS SOMETHING POSITIVE ANYHOW.

YEP, EVERY LITTLE BIT.

SO I'LL BRIEFLY RECAP YOUR APRIL 19TH WORK SESSION.

THE WE COVERED WITH THE BOARD A SLIGHT INCREASE IN OUR CRATER YOUTH CARE COMMISSION EXPENDITURE OF $147, WHICH WE REDUCED THE CONTINGENCY BY THAT AMOUNT AND INCREASED BUDGETED TRANSFER TO CRATER YOUTH CARE.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED WITH YOU INCREASING OUR PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUES BY $396,000, AND THE BOARD DID NOT COMMIT TO A USE OF THOSE FUNDS DURING THE WORK SESSION, BUT SUBSEQUENTLY PROVIDED CONSENSUS BY EMAIL TO MR. STOKE TO PROVIDE THAT TRANSFER TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION OR INCREASE THE TRANSFER TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION BY $396,000.

SO AGAIN, THAT EXPENDITURE INCREASE GOES FROM $18.553 MILLION TO $18.949 WITH THAT INCREASE IN TRANSFER.

ALSO ON APRIL 19TH, WE TALKED WITH YOU ABOUT BACKING OFF OF THE 7% THAT WE HAD PROJECTED FOR OUR STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES AND REDUCING THAT TO 5% BASED ON THE SKINNY BUDGET THAT THE STATE DID APPROVE.

SO THAT DID REDUCE OUR STATE REVENUES BY $50,214.

WE REDUCED EXPENDITURES, SALARY AND BENEFITS BY $74,423 AND INCREASED OUR CONTINGENCY BY $24,209.

ADDITIONALLY, THAT REDUCTION IMPACTED OUR TRANSFER TO RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY BY $9,343, AND THEIR OVERALL BUDGET WOULD BE REDUCED OR HAS BEEN REDUCED BY $19,464, WITH REDUCTIONS TO HOPEWELL AND SURRY.

SO OVERALL, THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET CHANGE IS $345,786 HIGHER THAN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET. BASED ON THE INCREASE IN PUBLIC SERVICE TAX AND THE REDUCTION IN STATE REVENUES.

SO OVERALL, THE CONTINGENCY CHANGE TO DATE IS $33,405 HIGHER THAN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET , AND WE DID RECOMMEND THAT WE LEAVE THIS IN CONTINGENCY IN THE EVENT THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES ULTIMATELY APPROVE A 7% INCREASE. WE ALSO TALKED WITH YOU ON APRIL 19TH ABOUT THE UTILITIES BUDGET.

WE HAD INITIALLY INCLUDED YEAR ONE DEBT PAYMENT FOR THE BLACKWATER REGIONAL INTERCEPTOR AND SEWER FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THE THREE MGD PUMP STATION AND FORCE MAIN.

THAT DESIGN WORK, AFTER TALKING WITH THE ENGINEER IS GOING TO GO THROUGH FY24.

THOSE ARE LARGE PROJECTS THAT TAKE QUITE SOME TIME TO DESIGN.

SO WE WILL NOT HAVE DEBT PAYMENTS IN FY24 FOR THOSE PROJECTS.

SO THE BOARD DID PROVIDE CONSENSUS TO SHIFT THE 1.8 MILLION BUDGETED FOR DEBT FOR THOSE LARGE PROJECTS TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO HELP US MEET OUR LOCAL MATCH FOR ANY FEDERAL AWARDS THAT WE MAY RECEIVE AND REDUCE THE USE OF CASH RESERVES.

FOLLOWING YOUR APRIL 19TH BUDGET WORK SESSION, THERE WAS A JOINT CHAIR, VICE CHAIR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCHOOL BOARD , AND JUST TO RECAP THE SCHOOL REQUEST, WHEN WE INTRODUCED THE BUDGET, THEY HAD REQUESTED AN INCREASE IN THE LOCAL TRANSFER TO 20,380,006.67, AND THE BOARD HAD AGREED TO LEVEL FUNDING, WHICH

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THAT TRANSFER AMOUNT DOES EXCLUDE WHAT YOU HAD PLANNED TO TRANSFER TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND TO BUY BUSSES AND THE DEBT SERVICE OF 2.8 MILLION FOR SCHOOL DEBT OBLIGATIONS THAT THE COUNTY MAKES.

SINCE THE BUDGET WAS INTRODUCED, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM RECEIVED UPDATED REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND DR.

PENNYCUFF PROVIDED YOU AN UPDATE ON APRIL 19TH AS WELL.

USING THE SKINNY BUDGET PROJECTIONS, STATE REVENUES ARE PROJECTED TO BE 1.3 MILLION LESS THAN THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, AND IN RESPONSE, THE SCHOOL DIVISION HAS ELIMINATED AND REVISED ITEMS IN THEIR EXPENDITURE BUDGET.

THEY DID REDUCE THE EMPLOYEE PAY INCREASE FROM 6% TO 5%.

THEY ELIMINATED NEW POSITIONS THAT THEY REQUESTED.

THEY ELIMINATED THE RETENTION BONUS THAT THE GOVERNOR HAD INCLUDED BECAUSE THE SKINNY BUDGET DID NOT INCLUDE IT, AND THEY ALSO REMOVED MARKET ADJUSTMENTS FOR SUPPORT STAFF.

SO THE UPDATED LOCAL INCREASE THAT DR.

PENNYCUFF MADE ON APRIL 19TH WAS 1.645 MILLION INSTEAD OF THE 1.8 INITIALLY REQUESTED.

SO WITH THE $396,000 INCREASE IN TRANSFER FROM PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUE, THE UPDATED GAP BECOMES $1,249,681.

SO DURING THE CHAIR VICE CHAIR MEETING, THERE WAS DISCUSSION, HOPEFULLY TEMPORARILY, TO SHIFT THE $543,000 TRANSFER TO CIP FOR SCHOOL BUSSES, TO SCHOOL OPERATIONS, AND AGAIN, THEY ARE HOPEFUL THAT STATE REVENUES WILL IMPROVE WHEN THE STATE BUDGET IS ADOPTED, BUT THEY HAVE MADE THAT REQUEST INITIALLY SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO PROVIDE EMPLOYEES A 5% INCREASE AS REQUIRED IN THE SKINNY BUDGET.

SO WITH THAT 396, AGAIN, THE LOCAL OR WITH THAT 543 THE TRANSFER FOR SCHOOL OPERATIONS AND TEXTBOOKS WOULD BECOME $19,492,539 AND THE GAP WOULD THEN BE $706,307, AND THE SCHOOLS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD USE WHAT THEY HAD INITIALLY LAID OUT IN CONTINGENCY, WHICH WAS $1,091,015, BUT THEY DID COMMUNICATE THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS OVER THEIR UTILITY COSTS, ELECTRICITY, HEATING, FUEL AND VEHICLE FUEL.

SPECIFICALLY, AND I'M PROVIDING JUST A VISUAL ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.

IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ ON THE SCREEN, BUT ON YOUR HARD COPY IT MAY BE A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE.

THIS JUST PROVIDES A VISUAL.

THE BLUE SHADING AT THE BOTTOM RECAPS.

WHAT THAT TRANSFER WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR 396,000 OF PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUE, 543 SHIFT FROM BUSSES TO SCHOOLS WOULD PROVIDE THEM $939,974 ABOVE WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET, AND THEN ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, THEY WOULD SHIFT OR REDUCE THE CONTINGENCY BY $706,000 , AND THE CONTINGENCY WOULD BECOME $384,708.

QUESTIONS ON THAT? SO I DID HEAR FROM SOME OF YOU BY EMAIL TODAY AND YESTERDAY REGARDING THE SHIFT.

SO I BELIEVE WITH THE EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED, I HEARD FROM MR. BROWN, MR. WEBB AND MR. HUNTER. THERE IS CONSENSUS TO ALLOW THAT SHIFT, HOPEFULLY IN THE SHORT TERM FROM SCHOOL TRANSFER FOR SCHOOL BUSSES TO OPERATIONS AND MRS. WAYMACK AND MR. CARMICHAEL IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

I WAS NOTIFIED BY MR. WEBB. WE TALKED WHILE I WAS TRAVELING.

OKAY, I'M FINE WITH IT.

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YES, SIR. I APPROVE OF IT.

I JUST THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS TONIGHT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT AHEAD OF TIME.

YES, THAT'S OKAY, NO, NO, I WASN'T EXPECTING AN EMAIL AHEAD OF TIME EITHER, SO.

OKAY, YEP. YEP.

OKAY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE FULL BOARD TO MAKE THAT SHIFT.

SO WE JUST DID WANT TO COMMUNICATE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

YOU KNOW, IF IN FACT THE SCHOOLS RECEIVED INCREASED STATE FUNDING.

DR. PENNYCUFF ARTICULATED DURING THE MEETING THAT THEY HOPED TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE THE BUSSES.

AGAIN, IF INCREASED STATE FUNDING IS NOT RECEIVED, I'M SURE THERE WILL NEED TO BE CONTINUED COLLABORATION ON UTILITIES AS WELL.

WE ALSO WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU THE POSSIBILITY IF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES APPROVE A 7% INCREASE AND THEY PROVIDE STATE FUNDING AT THE SAME PROPORTIONATE LEVEL THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED FOR THE 5% IN THE SKINNY BUDGET, THE SCHOOL DIVISION WOULD STILL BE SHORT BY PROBABLY ABOUT $611,000.

SO WE WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO THE BOARD AS WELL.

SO I THINK THERE WILL NEED TO BE CONTINUED DISCUSSION AMONG THE BOARD AND THE SCHOOL BOARD TO NAVIGATE THE BUDGET ONCE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES APPROVE, AND OF COURSE, IT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE BY AMENDMENT AS SOON AS WE RECEIVE THE UPDATED STATE INFORMATION.

THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM A BOARD MEMBER TO DISCUSS POSSIBLY BEING ABLE TO ADD POLICE OFFICERS, AND I PROVIDED THE BOARD WITH SOME INFORMATION ON THE COST, SALARY AND BENEFITS PER POLICE OFFICER.

EACH OFFICER EQUATES TO ABOUT $86,235, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE OFFICER THE EXPERIENCE LEVEL.

SO TO ADD FOUR OFFICERS, WHICH WAS THE REQUEST MADE BY CHIEF EARLY SALARY AND BENEFITS, WOULD BE JUST UNDER $345,000.

WITH THE OFFICER, OF COURSE, COMES A REQUEST FOR A VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT WHICH DOES INCLUDE UNIFORM, A FIREARM AND BULLETPROOF VEST AND A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS, WHICH TOTALS ABOUT ANOTHER $63,000.

THOSE ARE NOT RECURRING COSTS.

SO IF THE BOARD DID CHOOSE TO ADD A POLICE OFFICER, YOU COULD APPROPRIATE ONE TIME FUNDING FUND BALANCE OR CURRENT YEAR SAVINGS TO COVER THOSE COSTS.

SO THE RECURRING COST, AGAIN, WOULD BE JUST OVER $86,000 PER OFFICER.

SO, MR. STOKE AND I DISCUSSED POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES.

WE COULD LOWER WHAT WE'RE CONTRIBUTING TO DEBT RESERVES.

THE BOARD ALREADY DID LOWER THE RESERVE CONTRIBUTION BY $215,000, $175,000 TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT THE PLAN IS TO PURCHASE OR IS THAT WE ARE PURCHASING VEHICLES AND SCHOOL BUSSES USING BUDGETED DOLLARS RATHER THAN BORROWING FOR THOSE.

ANOTHER $40,000 WAS REDUCED TO BALANCE WITH SOME OTHER INITIATIVES.

SO WE AND OUR APPROVED CIP PLAN, WE DID AGREE TO LEAVE OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE DEBT FUND AT THE LEVEL IT WAS AT THAT TIME TO CREATE A RESERVE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS TO POSSIBLY MITIGATE TAX INCREASES FOR LARGE PROJECTS. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO USE PART OF THE CONTINGENCY.

WE DON'T RECOMMEND USING MORE THAN $100,000 AGAIN, TO LEAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING, AND IN FACT, IF A HIGHER PAY INCREASE IS APPROVED AND ALSO WE WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH YOU IN CLOSED SESSION FOLLOWING THIS MEETING PROVIDING A PAY INCREASE TO YOUR CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.

QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO, MA'AM, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT, MR. CHAIR. YEAH, PLEASE DO.

I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I'VE TALKED TO THE CHIEF, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME UNKNOWNS THAT ARE NOT UNKNOWNS.

WE'VE GOT SOME POTENTIAL HITS THAT WE COULD ALREADY TAKE.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF LOWERING THE DEBT SERVICE.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT ONE TIME.

THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO KEEP YOURSELF IN GOOD SHAPE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO COVER THIS, AND EVEN THOUGH SOME OF IT WOULD BE A ONE TIME COST, IT'S GOING TO BE A REOCCURRING COST FOR WHATEVER HOW MANY OFFICERS YOU PUT ON IT

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ME PERSONALLY, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

I'VE TALKED TO THE CHIEF AS WELL AND TOLD HIM, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW, AND EXPLAINED TO HIM SOME OF THE REASONS, AND I THINK HE'S ON BOARD WITH IT AND NOT HAPPY, BUT I THINK HE'S ON BOARD ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, HE UNDERSTANDS WE'RE IN A SITUATION.

I SENT YOU MY RESPONSE TO THAT.

I DON'T SUPPORT THAT AT THIS TIME.

IF SOME THINGS CHANGE DOWN THE ROAD.

AGAIN, WE MADE A COMMITMENT, THOUGH, THAT ONCE WE APPROVED THE BUDGET, WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE WANTED TO STAY LOCKED IN TO OUR BUDGETED NUMBERS, BUT I'VE ALREADY SENT YOU MY RESPONSE ON THAT.

YES, SIR. WELL, THAT WAS MY EMAIL TO MY CO-BOARD MEMBERS TO TRY TO CONSIDER IT.

THIS IS MY 16TH BUDGET THAT I'M PART OF AND WILL BE MY LAST, AND, AND WITH SO MANY YEARS THAT WE'VE AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, THIS BOARD AND PRIOR BOARDS HAVE DONE A LOT FOR THAT DEPARTMENT BY RAISING THE SALARIES AND, AND FIXING THEIR NEEDS WITHIN THEIR BUDGET, AND OF COURSE, ANYTIME I HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO VOICE MY OPINION ON TRYING TO INCREASE THAT, I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT IF WE CAN STAY AHEAD OF THE CRIME IN OUR AREA AND PUT THE PEOPLE WORKING OUT ON THE STREETS TO INVESTIGATE THESE OCCURRENCES THAT ARE COMING UP MORE FREQUENTLY.

I'M ALL FOR TRYING TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO INCREASE THAT DEPARTMENT.

WE DID IT AS MUCH ON A FIRE AND EMS SIDE IN THIS BUDGET, AND THE REST OF THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.

IT'S THREE THINGS THAT I RAN ON 16 YEARS AGO IS THE SCHOOLS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY, RECREATION AND TAKING CARE OF OUR COUNTY, BUT I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO TJ'S VERY GOOD AT KEEPING THE NUMBERS AND LOOKING INTO IT AND KEEPS US WELL ABREAST ON WHAT'S GOING ON. I JUST HOPE THERE'S THREE SEATS THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR REELECTION COMING UP, AND I JUST HOPE AS THEY PASS THE TORCH AND KEEP GOING.

THAT THEY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, A STRONG EMPHASIS ON DOING WHATEVER THEY CAN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE AREA WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY CITIZENS.

HAVE ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON SPENDING MONEY FOR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, AND I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE HERE AND TRY TO PUT MORE DEBT THAT THE NEXT BOARD IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE AND ACCOMPLISH AND PUT THEM IN A BAD SITUATION.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. MRS. WAYMACK. WELL, I'M ALL FOR SUPPORTING THE POLICE, BUT IF WE CAN'T PROVIDE THE FUNDS, WE JUST CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE HOPEFUL ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. MS. [INAUDIBLE] THIS WAS THE ADDITION THAT I MADE TO THE PRESENTATION MR. STOKE RECEIVED.

I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED IT YESTERDAY, A MEMO FROM CHESTERFIELD FIRE AND EMS WITHDRAWING THEIR REQUESTS FOR FUNDING FOR MED FLIGHT.

THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH VIRGINIA STATE POLICE AND VCU MEDICAL, AND THEIR FUNDING ARRANGEMENT HAS CHANGED, AND THE VIRGINIA STATE POLICE ARE NOW GOING TO COVER CHESTERFIELD'S COST OF PROVIDING TWO FLIGHT MEDICS PER DAY. SO THEY WITHDREW THAT $4,800 REQUEST.

SO IN THE BUDGET FOR ADOPTION, IF THE BOARD DOESN'T OBJECT, WE WILL REDUCE THE BUDGETED CONTRIBUTION AND INCREASE THE CONTINGENCY BY $4,800. IT WON'T CHANGE THE OVERALL BUDGET, BUT IT WILL ADD $4800 TO CONTINGENCIES.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO, MA'AM. NO, MA'AM.

SO THE NEXT STEPS, OF COURSE, I WILL INCORPORATE YOUR CONSENSUS FOR THE SCHOOL FUNDING REQUEST INTO THE BUDGET FOR

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WE WILL MAKE THE CHANGE FOR THE MED FLIGHT CONTRIBUTION, AND THEN MISS HURT AND I WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH YOU IN CLOSED SESSION FOLLOWING THIS REGULAR MEETING THE INCREASE FOR YOUR THREE CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.

JUST TO MENTION TONIGHT, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE YOUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET.

ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET IS TARGETED FOR MAY 23RD AND THEN APPROPRIATION OF THE BUDGET WILL BE AT YOUR JUNE MEETING AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION UNLESS THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL BUDGET TOPICS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING? NO. OKAY, CARMICHAEL.

[INAUDIBLE] GOOD.

YEP. OKAY, THERE WAS ONE ITEM MR. CHAIR THAT HAS BEEN TOSSED AROUND, AND IT REALLY COMES MORE AT THE POINT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE APPROPRIATION OF THE BUDGET TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME SOME CHATTER WITHIN THE BOARD, SO IF WE COULD MAYBE JUST HAVE A LITTLE BRIEF DISCUSSION ON THE CATEGORICAL FUNDING.

OKAY, WELL, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA DESIGNATES SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OF FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS, AND THE BOARD, I BELIEVE, ACCORDING TO THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPROPRIATE SCHOOLS IN A LUMP SUM OR BY CATEGORY AS DEFINED IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.

OKAY. SO IF IT'S THE BOARD'S WISH TO DO THAT, CERTAINLY MISS BARNES TYPICALLY GIVES ME THE BUDGET BY CATEGORY, AND I DID CONFIRM WITH HER ON THIS VISUAL THAT THIS IS THE UPDATED REQUEST BY CATEGORY, AND THOSE CATEGORIES, OF COURSE, ARE INSTRUCTION, ADMINISTRATION ATTENDANCE AND HEALTH, PUPIL TRANSPORTATION OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE TECHNOLOGY, CAPITAL OUTLAY CONTINGENCY AND, AND TRANSFERS AND DEBT.

OKAY.

I THINK A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, PERHAPS THERE WAS APPROPRIATION BY CATEGORY.

I THINK IT WAS FOR A FINITE NUMBER OF YEARS HISTORICALLY, AND I BELIEVE I WAS SERVING AS FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE SCHOOL DIVISION AT THAT TIME BUT THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THE YEARS THE BOARD HAS APPROPRIATED AND LUMP SUM.

WELL BEING STRAIGHT UP, AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT MOST OF THEM.

I'M THE ONE THAT IS PUTTING THIS FORTH.

WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE WE'VE GOT.

WE GOT TO GET OUT [INAUDIBLE], WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

WE NEED TO BE REVIEWING STUFF ON A REGULAR BASIS AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

SAME AS BASICALLY SAME THING WE DO ON THIS SIDE [INAUDIBLE] THE REPORT.

SO YES, I'M THE ONE ASKING FOR THE CATEGORICAL FUNDING [INAUDIBLE] AND IF THE BOARD SUPPORTS IT, PROVIDING EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DO IT OTHERWISE. IF THIS IS A WAY THAT WILL ASSIST US IN GETTING ON TOP OF IT SO WE CAN CONTROL AND KEEP US FROM GETTING IN A WORSE BIND THAN WE'RE IN, I'M CERTAINLY FOR IT.

I PERSONALLY THINK THE CATEGORICAL FUNDING HELPS TO, FROM A REAL QUICK VIEWPOINT, IT SHOWS YOU WHERE YOUR SPENDING IS IN THESE VARIOUS CATEGORIES, AND ALSO IT ALSO OPENS THE DOOR FOR CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE BOSS. IF MONIES NEED TO BE MOVED AROUND FROM ONE CATEGORY TO ANOTHER, AND I JUST THINK AT THIS TIME, KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WITH THE SHORTFALL IN OTHER AREAS, I JUST THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT AID AT THIS TIME AND NOT JUST I THINK FOR BOTH BOARDS.

SO I KNOW I THINK THAT'S WHY MR. WEBB HAS MADE AN EFFORT TO TALK WITH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS TO COME COME OUT AS A SURPRISE IN THIS MEETING TONIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER THAT.

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AND IT HAS BEEN, AGAIN, AS A LUMP SUM TO SCHOOLS.

THE YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE, OF COURSE, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, WOULD BE THAT IF THE SCHOOL DIVISION NEEDED TO TRANSFER BUDGETED FUNDS BETWEEN THOSE MAJOR CATEGORIES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A REQUEST FOR AN APPROPRIATION OR A TRANSFER TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

SO THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE ADDED TO THE BOARD'S AGENDA AND IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A SLAP IN THE FACE.

I ASKED FOR YOU TO BE NOTIFIED UPFRONT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FIND OUT WHEN YOU APPROPRIATE THE MONEY, WHAT THE DEAL WAS.

WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO CALL PEOPLE OUT BY NAME, BUT I'M LOOKING AT LEAST TWO, AND I BELIEVE I MENTIONED IT IN WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IN CHAIR, VICE CHAIR MEETING ABOUT FOUR HOT ITEMS OR FOUR ITEMS THAT CAME UP THAT MOST LIKELY COULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT BY LINE ITEMS VERSUS AGGREGATE.

[INAUDIBLE]. I DID MENTION THAT, AND I ALSO MENTIONED TO AT LEAST ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER THAT'S NOT HERE.

SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT EACH OTHER'S GOT, AND I'VE SPENT AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO [INAUDIBLE] I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN DETAILS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

AS OF RIGHT TONIGHT, AND IF IT PRETTY MUCH HAD IT BEEN THE OTHER WAY AROUND, I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT A LOT QUICKER.

IN MY ESTIMATION, THIS IS MORE OF LIKE A CORPORATE WORLD THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS.

I'M GOING TO CALL MR. SMITH OUT BECAUSE HE'S USED TO CORPORATE WORLD THE WAY THEY DO ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE AND BUDGETS AND STUFF, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET A HANDLE ON IT, AND WE ARE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE.

WE'RE THE TAX AGENT.

WE'RE THE GOVERNING BODY THAT HAS THE TAXING AUTHORITY, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT THE STATE EDUCATION HAS GOT LAID OUT FOR THEIR CATEGORIES , AND I SENT THAT INFORMATION TO AT LEAST ONE BOARD MEMBER, AND I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.

IF HE DIDN'T, I APOLOGIZE.

WELL, SINCE HE'S NOT HERE AFTER THE MEETING, I'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE THE NAME WITH HIM AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND ASK HIM, BUT HE'S GOT IT.

I DON'T WANT TO DO IT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE HE'S NOT HERE, AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS EVENING? NO, SIR. TO ALLOW THEM TIME TO DISCUSS WHAT WAS JUST TOLD TO THEM, AND WE CAN TAKE ACTIONS ON IT. I GUESS THE NEXT MEETING OR WHATEVER DATE I WANTED YOU TO HAVE A HEADS UP BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE SITTING HERE NEXT YEAR IF I'M STILL ON THE BOARD.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN.

WE JUST NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE CHAIR VICE CHAIR MEETING CATEGORY.

VERY WELL. WELL, SOMETHING'S GOT TO CHANGE, AND I'M GOING TO RIDE THIS 16 YEAR PONY UNTIL IT CRASHES INTO THE GATE IN DECEMBER, BUT WHEN IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP YEARS AGO, I WAS NEW ON THE BOARD AND I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT FOR ONE BOARD TO TELL ANOTHER ELECTED BOARD HOW THEY SHOULD SPEND THEIR MONEY.

IT MADE IT LOOK LIKE WE WERE SMARTER WITH THEIR FUNDS THAN THEY WERE CAPABLE OF BEING, AND LOOKING ACROSS THE TABLE AND I SEE KEVIN FOSTER, WHO WAS A CPA AT THE TIME, WHO KNEW MORE ABOUT THE FINANCING WORLD THAN I DID.

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CHANGES IN 16 BUDGETS.

WE'RE AT THE SAME SITUATION EVERY SINGLE YEAR, AND THE TALK GETS OUT INTO THE COUNTY THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ARE [INAUDIBLE] THEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE SAYING THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE WASTING MONEY AND NOT BEING UP FRONT AND WHERE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY.

SO IT JUST SOMETHING'S GOT TO CHANGE TO MAKE IT BETTER.

THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE TRANSPARENCY.

WE'VE GOT TO LET THE CITIZENS KNOW EXACTLY ON BOTH SIDES WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING, HOW IT'S BEING SPENT.

WHAT A HELPFUL THING WOULD BE.

JUST MY OPINION.

ONLY AFTER LOOKING AT ALL THE WORK SESSIONS OVER THE YEARS.

I LIKE TO SEE EVERY SCHOOL DIVISION HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE BUDGET AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SPENDING.

THAT WAY THAT THE PRINCIPLES OF THAT INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL WILL HAVE A GOAL TO SHOOT FOR ON CERTAIN ITEMS.

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THAT PARTICULAR SCHOOL CAN.

FIRST OF ALL, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE WITHIN THEIR SCHOOL.

INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS, AND IF THEY ACHIEVE SUCH A GOAL WHERE THEY COME IN UNDER BUDGET THAT YOU THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR THEM, THEN THAT'S MONEY THAT WILL GO BACK TO THEM, THAT THEY CAN SPEND ON THEIR TEACHERS, ON THEIR CLASSROOMS AND MAKE THEIR SCHOOL EVEN BETTER BUT JUST A SUGGESTION, AND IT MAY NOT EVEN WORK, BUT SOMETHING'S GOT TO BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE GET YOU KNOW, I FEEL TERRIBLE SOME YEARS WHEN I WALK AWAY FROM HERE SAYING I DON'T THINK WE DID ENOUGH BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS ARE STILL ASKING FOR MONEY AND THEY'RE SUFFERING, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR IT'S A TOTAL OPPOSITE.

IT'S. SO FOR THE NEXT FUTURE BOARD MEMBERS THAT SIT HERE AND ON THE SCHOOL SIDE AS WELL, I HOPE THEY COME UP WITH, AND THIS IS JUST TOUCHING THE SURFACE OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS, BUT I DO THINK WE OWE YOU THE RESPECT TO AT LEAST DISCUSS IT, AND NOT THAT IT WILL CHANGE THE OVERALL OUTCOME OF IT, BUT AT LEAST WILL GIVE YOU SOME IDEA ON WHEN IT'S PASSED OR IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOT THE VOTES TO PASS IT ON THIS SIDE.

HOW DO WE GO FORWARD AND HOW DO WE DEAL WITH IT WITHOUT BEING A NEGATIVE AND SOMEHOW TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP FOR THE UPCOMING TWO BOARDS TO WORK TOGETHER? THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE I DON'T VIEW THIS AS ANY SLAP OR STATEMENT THAT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM CAN'T MANAGE, THAT THEY'RE DOING A JOB OF MANAGING THAT.

THE ADVANTAGE I SEE TO THE CATEGORICAL FUNDING IS AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HOLDS US RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MONIES THAT WE APPROVE.

THEY KNOW THAT WE DON'T DICTATE HOW THEY GET SPENT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, BUT I THINK WHAT THIS DOES IS WHEN THINGS NEED TO MOVE AROUND, IT JUST COMES BACK TO A PUBLIC MEETING THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WATCH, AND PEOPLE CAN'T SAY THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS OR WEREN'T AWARE OF WHATEVER.

I'M NOT TAKING IT AS A NEGATIVE.

I TAKE IT AS AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS WHEN THINGS NEED TO MOVE AROUND.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A THING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, OR NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO.

IT'S JUST AGAIN, IT BRINGS IT TO THE FOREFRONT FOR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN PEOPLE ASK, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

SO I CAN'T REALLY GIVE THEM A GOOD ENOUGH ANSWER TO EXPLAIN THINGS, THINGS HOW THINGS END UP.

SO THAT'S JUST MY MY POINT OF VIEW.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. [INAUDIBLE], IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, DOES THAT STILL GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE TO START LOOKING AT PUTTING TOGETHER YOUR APPROPRIATION PIECE DIFFERENTLY.

YES, SIR. WE APPROVE THAT. YES, SIR.

ARE YOU STILL BEING ALLOWED ENOUGH TIME TO DO YOUR WORK? BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS PUT YOU BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WITH EVERYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE TO DO.

YES, SIR, IT WOULD JUST MEAN, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTING THE APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION THAT'S PROVIDED TO THE BOARD.

IN OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST, THE REASON WAS TO BE UP FRONT, WAS TO GIVE MISS BARNES TIME TO GET WITH YOU IF SHE HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW IT WOULD WORK SO WE CAN HAVE EQUAL TRANSPARENCY.

THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL INTENT OF NOTIFYING YOU UPFRONT EARLIER THAN WAITING TILL WHEN THE BUDGET IS APPROVED.

YES, SIR. YOU GOT TIME TO MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS SO WE CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE? YES, SIR. I CAN CERTAINLY CONFIRM THAT THOSE THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY WANTED INCLUDE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION.

YES, SIR, WE HAVE SOME TIME BETWEEN NOW AND YOUR JUNE MEETING TO WORK THAT OUT.

GOING FORWARD, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'LL ADD IS ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE CIP, IN MY OPINION, NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THIS BOARD BEFORE WE DO IT, BECAUSE THE BUSSES WERE ON THE CIP AND I KNOW I PROMOTED YEARS AGO FOR EXTRA TRAILERS AND STUFF AND I AM A PROPONENT OF THE BUSSES, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO PEOPLE SPENDING OUT OF THE SAME POT JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON A CIP AND NOT KNOW WHO'S DOING WHAT.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING WITH THIS CATEGORICAL FUNDING, WE GOT ONE POT OF MONEY AND THAT'S THE CITIZENS' TAX DOLLARS COMES OUT OF GENERAL FUND AND THAT'S ALL WE GOT.

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WE DO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS.

IT COULD BE CIP STUFF DONE THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF UNTIL AFTER THE FACT.

RIGHT. ANYTHING THAT'S DONE WITHIN THEIR OWN OPERATING BUDGET, WE I'M JUST I'M JUST MAKING A POINT THAT MAY HAVE HELPED WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. WHAT'S DONE IS DONE.

SO, MR. CARMICHAEL YOU'RE SAYING WE BRING YOU'RE SAYING WE MAKE SOME DECISION ON THIS AT OUR MAY 23RD MEETING. I'LL BE READY.

OKAY, WELL, YOU GOT A MAJORITY NOW, BUT I UNDERSTAND IF YOU ALL WAIT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AND GIVE YOU ALL THE TIME TO ABSORB IT.

WELL, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE DR.

PENNYCUFF SAID THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AWARE OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO RELAY FOR SOME REASON AND JUST LET THEM TALK IT OVER.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF IT, AT LEAST THE RESPECT FOR THEM TO TALK THROUGH IT IN CASE THEY SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS THIS THING MOVES FORWARD, WHICH I'M SURE THEY WILL, BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU ALL.

I THINK WAITING TILL THE NEXT MEETING IS FINE.

GIVE THE MEMBERS, DR.

PENNYCUFF AND THE BOARD TO DISCUSS IT AND TALK ABOUT IT AND RESPOND TO IT.

ALL RIGHT, [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY IN THE WORK SESSION? NO, SIR. ANYTHING? ANYBODY? IF NOT, THE BOARD WILL BE IN RECESS UNTIL 7 P.M..

CALL THE BOARD BACK TO ORDER.

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL ASK MRS. WAYMACK TO GIVE THE BOARD'S INVOCATION.

[INVOCATION]

DEAR LORD, BE WITH THOSE WHO HAVE RECENTLY LOST LOVED ONES, COMFORT THOSE WHO GRIEVE.

BE WITH THOSE WHO REJOICE AND GIVE THEM JOY.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR OUR CITIZENS.

BE WITH OUR LEADERS AND GUIDE THEM TO DO THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

DEAR LORD, IN YOUR HOLY NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

MR. WEBB, IF YOU'D LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

OF ALLEGIANCE] THANK YOU.

AT THIS POINT, THE BOARD OF RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL OPEN IT TO THE FLOOR.

ANYONE THAT HAS PUBLIC COMMENTS WANT TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? COME FORWARD NOW.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, [INAUDIBLE] I MEAN, LAWRENCE BROCKWELL 5300 HERITAGE ROAD.

HOW Y'ALL DOING? MOST OF Y'ALL FINE.

YEAH. HOW ARE YOU DOING? LOOK, I'M HERE I'VE TALKED TO DAVID A LITTLE BIT.

WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM AGAIN WITH THE BRIDGE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM ON HERITAGE.

ITS CONES IT'S SETTING TO THE INSIDE OF THE BRIDGE.

THEY PUT SIGNS UP THAT SAYS YIELD ON THIS SIDE THAT I LIVE ON.

YIELD ON THE OTHER SIDE.

WE'RE HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME WITH SAFETY THERE.

I LIKE TO GOT HIT YESTERDAY HEAD ON AT THE BRIDGE BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING DOWN FROM ROUTE TEN AND IT'S SO MUCH WEEDS AND GRASS GROWN UP THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN REALLY SEE AROUND THAT CURVE.

SO I DIDN'T SEE NOTHING.

SO I PROCEEDED TO GO TO THE BRIDGE AND I HAD TO STOP BECAUSE A SUV WAS COMING DOWN AND I GOT STOPPED ENOUGH TO LET IT GO ACROSS.

WE'RE HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME OVER THERE.

YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE WATER SITUATION RUNNING DOWN THE HILL NOW.

IT'S NOW IT'S BACKING UP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.

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IT'S NOT GOOD.

IT'S WITH COMPANY SEVEN NOW WITH THEM COMING THROUGH WITH THE FIRE TRUCK, WITH THE MERGED CREW, STUFF LIKE THAT, AND I KNOW SHE SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO MAYBE A ONE LANE THING UNTIL THEY DECIDE ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE BRIDGE BUT ALSO THEY HAVE THE DRAFT AND FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO DRAFT OUT THE CREEK.

MOST OF US KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT.

YEAH, IT'S NOT.

IT'S GROWN UP SIX FOOT OVER TOP OF THAT, THE DRY HYDRANT [INAUDIBLE], AND WE'RE HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME DOWN THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR, TO ASK. DID ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING? WHY THEY PUT THE CONES OUT THREE WEEKS AGO? I MEAN, BARRELS.

SO IT'S A ONE LANE, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE BOTH COMING DOWN HILLS, AND HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO'S FIRST, WHO'S SECOND AND YOU'RE STILL MEETING. SO I THINK SHE'S GOT SOME SUGGESTION MAYBE THAT WHAT WE CAN MIGHT DO WITH IT, BUT I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING READY TO HAPPEN.

MISS SMITH IS CERTAINLY THE ONE THAT COULD HELP US ON THAT, AND YOU'RE MAKING YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT.

SHE'S HERE, AND I'M SURE SHE'LL DO SOMETHING THE RIGHT THING FOR US.

THANK YOU. ONE OTHER THING REAL QUICK.

I KNOW I TALKED ABOUT GRASS AND WEEDS AND STUFF.

I HADN'T SPOKE TO HER ABOUT IT YET, BUT OVER THERE ON MOODY ROAD COMING IN FROM DOLLAR GENERAL, WHEN YOU GO PAST THE BRIDGE AND PULL THE TOP OF THE HILL, THE TREES, THE LIMBS, THE BUSHES OR SO FAR OUT IN THE ROAD, IT'S ONLY A ONE LANE ROAD THERE.

YOU'VE GOT TO STOP OR YOU'RE GOING TO SCRATCH YOUR VEHICLE TO PIECES.

SO ALL THAT STUFF ABOUT THE SPLAT ZONE NEEDS TO BE TRIMMED BACK IF YOU ALL CAN'T GET TO IT.

THANK Y'ALL. SHE HEARD THAT, TOO.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. BROCKWELL. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO IT? NO, NOTHING. IS ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD TONIGHT? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, I'M RICK TITTERTON; I LIVE AT 9750 BLACKWATER FARM LANE.

MOST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW ME PRETTY WELL.

IF I'VE GOT SOMETHING ON MY MIND, IT USUALLY COMES OUT OF MY MOUTH, AND IF I HAVE A THOUGHT, IT USUALLY COMES OUT OF MY MOUTH, BUT I MADE A COMMITMENT A LONG TIME AGO.

IF I WAS WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING, I WOULD COME OUT AND SAY IT.

I'VE QUESTIONED MR. WEBB A COUPLE OF TIMES PUBLICLY ABOUT SOME TIES INTO THE LAND THAT'S NEAR ME.

HE'S COME FORWARD TO ME ON BOTH OCCASIONS AND I FEEL LIKE I OWE HIM A PUBLIC APOLOGY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.

I WANT TO SAY THAT UP FRONT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS MADE THAT COMMITMENT.

WE MAY NOT AGREE ON EVERYTHING, AND I MAY SEE OPTICS THAT LOOK A CERTAIN WAY, BUT HE HAD ENOUGH CHARACTER TO REACH OUT TO ME AND HAVE A CONVERSATION, AND I WANTED TO COME HERE AND THANK HIM PERSONALLY FOR THAT AND AGAIN, APOLOGIZE IN PUBLIC FOR QUESTIONING HIS INTEGRITY ON THAT.

AS FAR AS NOW.

NOW, LET ME BE UP FRONT WITH EVERYBODY HERE.

IF I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT, I'M GOING TO QUESTION IT, BUT IF I FIND OUT I'M WRONG, I'M GOING TO COME UP AND SAY I'M WRONG.

SO THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. IT WAS UNEXPECTED, BUT YOU GOT MY NUMBER.

YES, SIR. DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE IT ON THE AGENDA IS THE NEW CONVENIENCE CENTER ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AT ALL? SO THAT'S ALL FOR RIGHT NOW? YES, SIR. BUT THERE WILL BE--23RD.

OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AT THAT TIME I'LL COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AND TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AFTER MY CONVERSATION WITH HIM, MY BIGGEST QUESTIONS COME INTO THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT'S BEEN HIRED.

NOT NECESSARILY THAT HE SAID THAT, BUT I QUESTION HOW THEY COULD CHOOSE THE LOCATION ON 175 ACRES THAT TUCKS IN THAT CLOSE TO PEOPLE'S PERSONAL HOMES WHEN THEY HAVE PLENTY OF AREA THERE THAT DOESN'T TUCK IN NEXT TO THEIR HOMES, AND THE SECOND THING I WOULD QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY REALLY LOOK SERIOUS AT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION UP IN THERE.

JUST SOME THINGS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP.

THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE THE 23RD, IS THAT THIS IS ONLY SIX MILES AWAY FROM THE CURRENT CONVENIENCE CENTER AND TO ME, THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN IGNORANT LOCATION TO PUT IT.

IF YOU'RE TRULY TRYING TO COVER THE REST OF THE COUNTY, YOU'VE GOT THE [INAUDIBLE] TRACT, YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER TRACTS, YOU'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN OVER INSIDE OF AN INDUSTRIAL FACILITY.

I JUST THINK IT'S A POOR CHOICE OF LOCATION, AND QUITE FRANKLY, AS I SAID AT THE ZONING MEETING, THIS THING DOESN'T AFFECT ME.

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THE PREVAILING WINDS BLOW OUT OF THE NORTH.

IT'S GOING TO BLOW THE SMELL MOSTLY AWAY FROM MY HOME WHILE IT TOUCHES, WHILE THE LAND TOUCHES MY LAND I DON'T THINK IT WILL AFFECT ME, BUT MY NEIGHBORS ARE HURTING BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO DIRECTLY AFFECT THEIR VALUE.

I'M AN EXPERT IN REAL ESTATE.

I SAY THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT.

I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME.

WHERE YOU'RE PLACING THIS WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT THE VALUE OF AT LEAST FIVE HOMES, AND I'M TALKING TREMENDOUSLY.

I'M TALKING CUTTING IT BY AT LEAST TWO THIRDS, AND I CAN BACK THAT UP WITH STATISTICS.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE CONSIDERATION.

THE PEOPLE WHO ASKED FOR THIS, I WOULD SUGGEST THEY LOOK AROUND AND SEE IF THE COUNTY CAN BUY PROPERTY CLOSE TO THEIR HOME AND ASK WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT IT TO BE TRULY CONVENIENT AND PUT IT NEXT DOOR TO THEM.

THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

IT WAS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

ALL RIGHT, THE BOARD IS STILL ACCEPTING COMMENTS FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT A SUBJECT.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WHAT YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

OKAY, I SEE NO ONE ELSE COMING, SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

NEXT WE HAVE IS THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.

[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

NEXT, WE HAVE THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.

[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.

SO MOVED.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.

SUPERVISOR COMMENTS.

[SUPERVISORS’ COMMENTS]

WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN PRINCE GEORGE, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU, ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS.

THANK YOU. OKAY, MR. BROWN. YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS PAST SATURDAY WAS THE OPENING OF OUR FARMERS MARKET.

I WAS UP HERE.

I RAN INTO YOU HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, WE ALSO RECOGNIZED SCHOOL TEACHERS.

IT SEEMED LIKE PEOPLE WERE HAVING A LOT OF FUN.

I EVEN HAD OR OVERHEARD SOME OF THE STUDENTS AND HADN'T SEEN SOME OF THEIR OLDER TEACHERS IN A WHILE THAT SHOWED UP AND THE CHILDREN WERE VERY EXCITED. SO I WANT TO SAY TO OUR MARKET MANAGER, I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

THERE WERE A LOT OF PRIZES THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

I THINK WE HAD 50 SOME OR 40 SOME VENDORS HERE, BUT IT WAS A CHALLENGING DAY.

WE ALSO HAD A SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT GOING ON.

WE ALSO HAD SOCCER GAMES GOING ON, AND I SAY ALL THIS BECAUSE IT'S A SHAME.

YOU KNOW, I GET HOME AND I READ SOME OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON CONCERNED CITIZENS, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF CATCH 22 IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

WE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE WE DON'T PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH ACTIVITIES, AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE DO TRY AND AGAIN, IT WAS A BUSY DAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COMPLAINTS, AND SO I CHOOSE TO LOOK PAST ALL THAT BECAUSE IN MY HEART I THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

SO WE'LL WORK MORE, WE'LL WORK TOGETHER, WE'LL MAKE SURE THINGS GET DONE BUT I JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT.

I THOUGHT THAT SATURDAY WAS A GREAT DAY.

I WAS HERE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS ON SATURDAY.

I'M GLAD YOU TOUCHED ON THAT.

SO YOU DID READ WHERE? THERE WAS A LOT OF FUN HAPPENING THE WEEKEND.

THEY JUST DON'T WANT ALL THE FUN TO HAPPEN IN ONE WEEKEND.

[CHUCKLING] HAVE TO SPREAD IT OUT OVER A FEW MONTHS.

YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S TO ADD.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. YES, SIR.

MR. WEBB.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY CHARACTER.

I'M GOING TO WISH ALL THE MOTHERS HERE AND VIEWING A HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY--I UNDERSTAND IT'S COMING UP--AND TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, IT'S BECAUSE MY WIFE REMINDED ME OF IT BEFORE I WENT OUT THE DOOR. [CHUCKLING] NUMBERS, I GET; DATES, I DON'T, [CHUCKLING] BUT ANYWAY, HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY.

VERY NICE. THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD, AND THAT'S GREAT.

I'M GLAD, MR. BROWN, THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT THE FARMERS MARKET BECAUSE I SENT MRS.

[00:50:05]

YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL, BUT YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

THAT'S ALL. SO IT WAS GOOD AND I LIKED IT.

SO I DID GO TO IT AND HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY, AND I'LL ECHO THAT FROM WHAT MR. WEBB SAID. THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WE HAVE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS NOW.

[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR’S COMMENTS]

JUST A COUPLE OF DATES OF MORE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE COUNTY COMING UP ON MAY 10TH, MEET YOUR LEGISLATOR IS HOSTED BY VIRGINIA'S GATEWAY REGION AT CCAM, THE COMMONWEALTH CENTER FOR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING THAT'S ON WEST QUAKER ROAD FROM 3 P.M.

TO 5 P.M.

IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT VGR ASKS THAT YOU PRE-REGISTER WITH THEM AND YOU CAN DO THAT BY CALLING OR JUMPING ON THEIR WEBSITE.

MAY 12TH, TIP A COP, A FUNDRAISER FOR SPECIAL OLYMPICS AT NANNY'S RESTAURANT FROM 5 P.M.

TO 9 P.M.

THE FARMERS MARKET WILL ONCE AGAIN BE HELD SATURDAY, MAY 13TH, FROM 9 A.M.

TO 1 P.M. AT SCOTT PARK.

THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, RESCHEDULED FOR MAY 1ST, WILL BE HELD RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM AT 6:30 P.M.

. ON MAY 18TH, POIRIER FINANCIAL STRATEGIES WILL HOLD A RIBBON CUTTING AT 5720 COURTHOUSE ROAD BEGINNING AT 8:30 A.M. ON MAY 18TH WILL BE THE HOPEWELL PRINCE GEORGE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ANNUAL GOLF TOURNAMENT AT THE COUNTRY CLUB OF PETERSBURG, 11 A.M.

REGISTRATION AND ON MAY 20TH WILL BE A HUNTER SAFETY COURSE SPONSORED BY VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF GAME AND INLAND FISHERIES AT THE PARKS AND REC COMMUNITY CENTER ON OLD STAGE ROAD BEGINNING AT 8 A.M..

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL OF OUR REPORTS FROM THE BOARD AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

NEXT, YOU HAVE A REPORT FROM MISS CRYSTAL SMITH FROM OUR VDOT REPRESENTATIVE.

[REPORTS]

GOOD EVENING. SO I'VE GOT A FEW UPDATES FOR TONIGHT.

OUR CREWS HAVE FINISHED THE TRASH PICKUP AND MOWING CYCLE FOR PRIMARY.

THAT'S OUR FIRST CYCLE FOR THE YEAR.

THEY'VE ALSO STARTED THEIR SECONDARY TRASH AND MOWING CYCLE.

THE HINES ROAD AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXECUTED AND WE PLAN TO HAVE THAT WORK COMPLETED BY THE END OF JUNE.

I'D LIKE TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE OUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR STARTS.

THE AGREEMENT FOR SCOTT'S PARK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

I DID LOOK AT IT TODAY AND HAD TO MAKE A FEW EDITS TO THE ESTIMATE, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MAKING ITS ROUND BACK FOR REVIEW BY THE COUNTY AND APPROVAL AND WE'LL GET SIGNATURES AND HOPEFULLY BE READY TO START ON THAT SOON.

THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT ON LONE OAK MILL ROAD STARTED THIS WEEK.

THE DETOUR WAS INSTALLED YESTERDAY.

THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

GOLF COURSE IS ALSO PART OF THAT SAME UPC PROJECT, AND WE EXPECT THAT TO GET STARTED IN JULY.

ROUTE 630 BULL HILL ROAD ROUNDABOUT IS STILL ON SCHEDULE TO START IN OCTOBER.

THE NEW FENDER SYSTEM CONTRACT FOR THE BENJAMIN HARRISON BRIDGE IS EXPECTED TO GO TO AD IN JUNE.

ADDITIONALLY, I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT WE RECEIVED INFORMATION BACK ON THE CONGRESSIONAL FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY REQUESTED FOR THE MIDDLE ROAD ROUNDABOUT PROJECT.

THE AWARD AMOUNT IS 3.541 MILLION WITH A 20% COUNTY MATCH.

THE FUNDS ARE DEDICATED FOR 2024, WITH THE 20% MATCH DUE BY THE END OF 2024, AND THAT CAN BE SUBMITTED IN PAYMENTS OR IN A LUMP SUM. BASED ON THE CURRENT ESTIMATE, THE COUNTY SHARE WOULD BE $885,202, BUT I DO EXPECT THAT AMOUNT TO INCREASE.

THAT IS BASED ON OUR ESTIMATE THAT WAS DONE A YEAR AGO AND WE HAVE REQUESTED AN UPDATED ESTIMATE FOR THAT PROJECT AND EXPECT IT TO GO UP.

CURRENT ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE, THE ONE THAT I JUST MENTIONED THAT'S A YEAR OLD IS 6.575 MILLION THAT IF WE GO BASED ON THAT ESTIMATE, THAT WOULD LEAVE $111 ,537 SHORTFALL WITH THE 20% MATCH.

[00:55:03]

ANY QUESTIONS? I GOT ONE, CHAIRMAN. YEAH, GO AHEAD, MR. WEBB. [INAUDIBLE].

EXCUSE ME? THE HINES ROAD, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE]? YES, THE HINES ROAD AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED, AND WE PLAN TO HAVE THE WORK DONE BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, JUNE 30TH, AND I'M SURE YOU GOT IT, BUT I'M SURE YOU GOT MR. BROCKWELL'S COMMENTS.

YES, I DID.

OKAY.

SO THE ROUNDABOUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ONE THAT SAYS JEFFERSON PARK AND MIDDLE ROAD.

YES, SIR. THAT'S THE ONE THAT ADDITIONAL CONGRESSIONAL FUNDS WERE REQUESTED FOR TO COVER THE SHORTFALL IN THE PROJECT.

I UNDERSTAND. IS THERE ANY OR ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK AT THIS SIX YEAR PLAN ABOUT THE OTHER END OF MIDDLE ROAD CHANCE? THAT'S A SMART SCALE.

YEAH. NO, THAT'S NOT IN THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.

THAT'S A SMART SCALE PROJECT.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, AND THERE'S NO THERE IS NO [INAUDIBLE] MONEY ON THAT PROJECT.

IT'S 100% SMART SCALE.

WHICH THE CTB IS VOTING ON IN JUNE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

[INAUDIBLE] PROCESS. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, I KNOW THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE THAT'S INTERESTED IN THAT.

WHAT'S THE PROGNOSIS OF THAT IS YES.

SO THE TWO PROJECTS IN YOUR PLAN, I'LL GO OVER THEM AGAIN AT 7:30, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON THE ROUNDABOUT THERE, AND THEN THERE'S A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR PROJECT WITH PREVIOUS FUNDS.

NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE SIX YEAR PLAN, BUT IT HAS TO BE IN THE PLAN BECAUSE THEY'RE ON SECONDARY ROADS AND IT HAPPENS TO BE THE TWO I JUST MENTIONED, WHICH IS LONE OAK MILL ROAD, WHICH IS STARTED AND GOLF COURSE ROAD, RIGHT.

OKAY, SO ESSENTIALLY YOUR REAL ONLY PROJECT IN THE PLAN, WHICH 100% OF THE MONEY IS GOING TO IS JEFFERSON AND MIDDLE.

OKAY, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

IN REFERENCE TO WHAT MR. BROCKWELL BROUGHT UP, I'VE SEEN SOME CONSTRUCTION SITES USE A LIGHT.

A CAUTION OR A STOPLIGHT.

GO, NO GO, LIGHT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO AVERT TRAFFIC TO ONE LANE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL BODY SITTING THERE.

YES, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I DISCUSSED WITH HIM.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S AN OPTION OR NOT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I PLAN TO DISCUSS WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

NOW, THE EXISTING SIGNAGE IS NOT WHAT'S INTENDED TO BE PERMANENT, AT LEAST UNTIL THE BRIDGE IS REPAIRED OR REPLACED.

THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE AS AN EMERGENCY MEASURE BY FHWA REGULATIONS ONCE WE KNOW OF THE DEFICIENCY IN THE BRIDGE, WE MUST POST IT AND THAT DEFICIENCY IS ON THE OUTSIDE PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUSHING THE TRAFFIC TO THE CENTER OF THE OF THE STRUCTURE.

WE HAD TO ORDER SPECIALIZED SIGNS FOR THE SIGNAGE.

SO THE SIGNAGE WILL CHANGE, BUT I AM DEFINITELY GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE AUTOMATED SIGNAGE WITH THE LIGHTS.

OKAY, THEN YOU JUST GOT TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION TO IT.

YES, SIR.

YEAH. WE'RE NOT DESTROYING THEM OR STEALING THEM.

ALL OF THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. SMITH AT THIS TIME? NO, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL P1 7:30, SO WE HAVE EIGHT MINUTES.

WE'LL BE IN RECESS FOR THE NEXT EIGHT MINUTES UNTIL WE HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.

OKAY, THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND, AND I'M GOING TO TAKE P TWO IN FRONT OF P ONE PUBLIC HEARING, THE DEPARTMENT OF

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

SO, MISS SMITH, YOU'RE BACK ON.

ALL RIGHTY. THANK YOU.

SO FOR THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN, THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE $117,916 FOR FEES AND EACH YEAR OF THE PLAN FOR A TOTAL OF $707,496.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WILL RECEIVE $1,490 IN DISTRICT GRANT UNPAVED FUNDS IN 2024.

THOSE FUNDS, THE [INAUDIBLE] FEE THAT WAS PROVIDED WILL ALL BE DESIGNATED TO THE ROUNDABOUT AT MIDDLE AND JEFFERSON.

CURRENTLY. THAT PROJECT EXCUSE ME, HAS 1.330391 OF PREVIOUS FUNDING.

THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTED FUNDING WILL BE $589,580.

[01:00:02]

THE SECOND PROJECT IN THE PLAN ARE THE TWO BRIDGES 630 AND 658, WHICH THE LONE MILL ROAD HAS ALREADY STARTED , AND, AND THE GOLF COURSE WILL START IN JULY.

THAT IS ALL PREVIOUS FUNDS.

NO FUNDS FROM THE SIX YEAR PLAN WILL BE DESIGNATED TO THAT PROJECT.

I WOULD NOW REQUEST A RESOLUTION OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SIX YEAR PLAN.

YOU'VE HEARD SOME COMMENTS FROM MISS SMITH FROM VDOT.

IF ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY FOR OR AGAINST THIS, COME FORWARD AND BE HEARD.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON RECORD, MRS. KNOTT? NO, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT, MR. [INAUDIBLE]. COME FORWARD, SIR.

GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AND LADIES.

DON [INAUDIBLE], 4620 PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE, PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA.

Y'ALL EARLIER TALKED A LITTLE BIT.

I KNOW. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT SHE JUST BRIEFED, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT MIDDLE ROAD AND PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE ROUNDABOUT.

I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD TONIGHT.

I MANAGE TWO PROPERTIES ON THAT CORNER, THE FAMILY CEMETERY, THE CZECHOSLOVAKIAN CEMETERY THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR EVER.

WE HAVE GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

OUR MEMBERS DO.

WHETHER THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THAT PROJECT WHENEVER IT COMES UP IN EIGHT YEARS, SIX YEARS.

I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD.

I ALSO MANAGE A HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET AND I'VE ALREADY GIVEN A 50-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY TO THE COUNTY FREE OF CHARGE.

I'VE GIVEN FRONT FRONTAL PROPERTY OFF OF THAT TO VDOT TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS WHICH ARE NOT EVEN MANAGED AT THIS POINT.

THE GRASS IS OVER YOUR KNEES, AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT SIDEWALKS THERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO LAY IT OUT TONIGHT THAT OUR GROUP WITH THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION IS REAL CONCERNED ABOUT IF THAT VDOT OR THAT ROUNDABOUT CAME TO REALITY HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE GRAVES IN THERE.

WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FROM THAT LOCATION, OBVIOUSLY.

I DON'T WANT THE REST OF MY FRONT YARD CHOPPED UP IN MY RENTAL PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET , AND SO THAT'S MY REAL CONCERN IS THEY START TO THINK THROUGH THAT NEXT ONE IN THE SMART PROGRAM THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE]. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST P, THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SECONDARY SIX-YEAR PLAN.

SEEING NO ONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION INCLUDED.

CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US FOR THIS PLAN.

I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? THANK YOU, MS. SMITH. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING. YOU TOO.

YOU TOO. THAT WAS P-2.

P-1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FY BUDGET FOR FY24 BUDGET.

MS. DREWRY, IF YOU WOULD.

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MRS. ERARD AND MR. STOKE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A SYNOPSIS OF THE INTRODUCED AND AMENDED FY24 BUDGET.

WAIT FOR THE POWERPOINT TO COME UP JUST A MOMENT.

IT'S A PUBLIC [INAUDIBLE] THERE'LL BE NO ACTION TAKEN ON THIS TONNIGHT.

IT'S STRICTLY PRESENTATION.

YES, SIR. THE CODE OF VIRGINIA ACTUALLY PROHIBITS THE BOARD FROM ADOPTING THE BUDGET THE SAME EVENING AS THE PUBLIC HEARING.

CORRECT. THANK YOU.

MRS. ERARD WILL STRAIGHTEN US OUT IF WE TRY TO DO THAT.

[CHUCKLING] [INAUDIBLE] TO DO DIFFERENT.

OKAY, THE INTRODUCED BUDGET WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE PUBLIC BY MR. STOKE ON MARCH 14TH AND THE ADVERTISED GENERAL FUND BUDGET WAS JUST OVER 72.7 MILLION AND REPRESENTED JUST UNDER A 5% INCREASE OVER THE CURRENT YEAR

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THOSE DECREASES WERE CAUSED BY ONE TIME ACTIVITIES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE UTILITIES BUDGET FOR FY23 THAT ARE ABSENT THIS YEAR AND ALSO THE LOSS OF SOME ONE TIME STATE FUNDING FOR CAPITAL.

ONE TIME PROJECTS FROM THE SCHOOL DIVISION SPECIFICALLY CARES AND ARPA ESSER FUNDING.

THIS IS A VISUAL OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT SHOWS THE EXPENDITURE COMPONENTS ALONG WITH THE REVENUES.

OF COURSE, THE MAJORITY OF OUR OR THE LARGEST FUNDING SOURCE IN OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET IS REAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES ALONG WITH OTHER TAX REVENUES, STATE REVENUE AND FEDERAL REVENUE ON THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET REPRESENT A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 17% OF THE BUDGET, A LITTLE MORE THAN 17%.

THE FY24 BUDGET WITH CHANGES APPROVED AND CHANGES THAT YOU ACTUALLY DISCUSSED IN YOUR WORK SESSION THIS EVENING.

THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET ACTUALLY INCREASED TO 72.72 MILLION, WHICH IS A 5.47% INCREASE.

AGAIN, THAT RESULT, THAT CHANGE RESULTED IN HIGHER THAN INTRODUCED PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUES AND A REDUCTION IN STATE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BECAUSE OF THE PAY INCREASE FOR STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES.

THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE ALL FUND BUDGET.

SO THE CHANGES THAT WERE IN DISCUSSION AND WERE DISCUSSED IN DETAIL WITH THE BOARD THIS EVENING AT YOUR WORK SESSION INCLUDED AGAIN THAT PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUE CHANGE, WHICH WAS PROVIDED TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION TO INCREASE THEIR LOCAL TRANSFER AND A REDUCTION IN STATE REVENUES.

YOU ALSO MADE A SLIGHT CHANGE TO THE CRATER YOUTH CARE COMMISSION CONTRIBUTION.

WE REDUCED SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR OUR STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES AND REDUCED OUR CONTRIBUTION TO RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY BECAUSE WE ARE USING THE SKINNY BUDGET APPROVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

THERE ARE NO FORMAL AMENDMENTS TO THE FY24 STATE BUDGET AT THIS POINT.

WE EXPECT THOSE IF THEY PLAN TO MAKE THEM IN LATE JUNE.

ALSO WAS DISCUSSED SHIFTING THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER INCLUDED IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET TO BUY BUSSES THAT WILL NOW GO TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION FOR OPERATIONS.

THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON PERHAPS ADDING SOME POLICE OFFICERS THAT THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS TO DO SO AT THIS TIME.

THERE WAS ALSO A WITHDRAWAL OF A REQUEST FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY FIRE AND EMS, WHICH RESULTS IN AN INCREASE IN OUR CONTINGENCY OF $4,800.

WE WILL BE DISCUSSING WITH THE BOARD MISS HURT AND MYSELF FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S REGULAR MEETING IN CLOSED SESSION.

THE BOARD CONTRACTED EMPLOYEES.

SO THIS IS A VISUAL AGAIN OF THE AMENDED OR THE BUDGET WITH CHANGES THAT WERE DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS EVENING.

THE VISUAL CHANGE JUST A SLIGHT BIT.

YOUR TAX RATES.

THERE WAS NO ACTUAL INCREASE IN THE RATE.

HOWEVER, THERE WAS GROWTH IN OUR REAL PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH DID RESULT IN AN EFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE.

THE EQUALIZATION RATE WAS $0.77 AND THE BOARD APPROVED KEEPING THE TAX RATE AT $0.82.

ALL OF OUR TAX RATES ARE THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION OR APPROVAL WAS HELD ON APRIL 25TH.

THIS PROVIDES A VISUAL OF OUR REAL PROPERTY TAXES.

OUR REAL ESTATE REVENUES ARE INCREASING BY A LITTLE OVER 1.9 MILLION.

521,000 OF THAT IS A RESULT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS.

THE REMAINING IS BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN VALUES ABOUT 1.4 MILLION.

THERE IS NO CHANGE IN OUR BUDGETED PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES, AND IN FACT, FOLKS WILL SEE A DROP IN THE TAXES FOR THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THEIR VEHICLES BETWEEN THIS SPRING AND LAST SPRING.

IF THEY HAD THE SAME VEHICLE THAT THEY HAD AT THAT TIME.

IN FACT, VEHICLE VALUES OVERALL HAVE DROPPED BY ABOUT 11% SINCE THE BOOK WAS COMPLETED LAST SPRING.

WE DID ALSO REDUCE OUR DELINQUENT REVENUE COLLECTIONS BY $250,000.

OTHER CHANGES ARE RECAPPED HERE.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE, BUT THE ONES SHADED IN YELLOW REPRESENT A CHANGE FROM THE INTRODUCED BUDGET.

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FOR PERSONNEL INCLUDED IN THE FY24 BUDGET IS A BASELINE INCREASE TO PUT IN THE FULL YEAR IMPACT OF INCREASES THAT WERE APPROVED DURING THE FISCAL YEAR.

THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF WHICH WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY INCREASE FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE AND EMS SERVICE PERSONNEL THAT WAS PROVIDED ON JANUARY 1ST TO BRING THEM MORE IN LINE WITH THE MARKET AVERAGE FOR JULY 1ST.

FOR ALL EMPLOYEES, STEP INCREASES ARE PROPOSED TO BRING EXPERIENCE LEVEL TO JUNE 30TH OF 2023.

MARKET REGRADES ARE ALSO PROPOSED FOR PERSONNEL WHOSE AVERAGE STARTING SALARY IS BELOW THE REGIONAL MARKET AVERAGE.

THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES WILL RECEIVE THE HIGHER OF THE STATE MANDATED PAY INCREASE ON THEIR COMP BOARD FUNDED SALARY FOR FUNDED POSITIONS OR THE LOCAL INCREASE THE STEP AND MARKET RATE GRADE IF APPLICABLE.

THE SAME IS TRUE FOR SOCIAL SERVICES AND RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY EMPLOYEES.

ALSO BUDGETED IS A ONE TIME BONUS FOR EMPLOYEES NOT SLATED TO RECEIVE AT LEAST A 2% INCREASE SINCE LAST JULY.

NINE NEW GENERAL FUND POSITIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET, FIVE FIREFIGHTER MEDICS, TWO BENEFIT PROGRAM SPECIALISTS IN SOCIAL SERVICES, A NEW PLANNING DIRECTOR AND AN ADDITIONAL APPARATUS TECHNICIAN AT THE GARAGE.

THERE ARE ALSO SOME RECLASSIFICATIONS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH MARKET REGRADES.

PROPOSED IS CHANGING THREE FIRE AND EMS CAPTAINS TO BATTALION CHIEFS, MAKING A CAPTAIN THAT'S CURRENTLY USED FOR VOLUNTEER AND TRAINING A LOGISTICS OFFICER.

WE WOULD RECLASSIFY A VACANT LIEUTENANT POSITION TO A FIREFIGHTER MEDIC.

ONE ADMIN SUPPORT SPECIALIST IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BECOME AN OFFICE MANAGER.

SO SOCIAL SERVICE MANAGER FIVE WOULD BECOME A SIX ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT SPECIALIST TWO WOULD BECOME A THREE, AND THE RCJA OFFICE MANAGER WOULD BECOME A MANAGER ONE.

THERE WERE ALSO SOME RECLASSIFICATIONS THAT RESULTED FROM THE MARKET REGRADES.

TWO WITHIN THE GIS, WHICH IS HOUSED IN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

OUR ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR, VICTIM WITNESS COORDINATOR, OUR FLEET MANAGER AND WITHIN THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE'S OFFICE, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.

WE PROPOSE MAKING LEVELS ONE AND TWO TO DESIGNATE THOSE WHO HAVE ATTAINED THE STATE APPROVED CAREER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS A LEVEL TWO AND BE ON A HIGHER GRADE THAN THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE THAT DESIGNATION.

THERE ARE ALSO SOME STRATEGIC PLAN INITIATIVES INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, AN UPDATE WHICH IS REQUIRED OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND USE POLICIES. PHASE ONE OF DOING DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLANS, THE PURCHASE OF FUEL FOCUS AND INTEGRATED FUEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM COUNTYWIDE . AT ONE TIME REDUCTION IN OUR EXISTING RADIO MAINTENANCE.

THE PURCHASE OF OFFICE 365 TO UPGRADE OUR CURRENT OFFICE SUITE PURCHASE OF NEOGOV LEARN, IMPLEMENTATION OF BOARDDOCS TO PURCHASE LAPTOPS IN CONCERT WITH BOARDDOCS.

ALSO INCLUDED IN THE INTRODUCED BUDGET WAS 450,000 FOR COUNTY VEHICLES AND 543,000 FOR SCHOOL BUSSES.

THE BOARD DID APPROVE BY CONSENSUS THIS EVENING TO SHIFT THAT TRANSFER FOR BUSSES TO SCHOOL OPERATIONS ABSENT AN APPROVED STATE BUDGET.

WE ARE HOPING THAT IS TEMPORARY.

WE ALSO HAD SOME CHANGES IN FUNDING CONTRIBUTIONS FOR CHILDREN'S SERVICES ACT AN OVERALL INCREASE OF 101,000.

THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN OUR CONTRIBUTION TO RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY, APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY.

THE CRATER CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING ACADEMY, CRATER YOUTH CARE COMMISSION AND CSA ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENDITURES.

LOCAL MATCH HAS ALSO INCREASED REDUCED OUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND RIVERSIDE REGIONAL JAIL BASED ON A LOWER CENSUS , AND THAT CHANGED TO OTHER AGENCIES IT'S NOW $174 REDUCTION BASED ON OUR UPDATE FROM CHESTERFIELD FIRE AND EMS. WE ALSO HAD SOME INCREASES IN OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS FOR SOFTWARE AND OUR CONTRACTED SERVICES.

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WE EXPERIENCED SOME INFLATIONARY INCREASES FOR FUEL, ELECTRICITY SUPPLIES, BOTH VEHICLE AND GENERAL SUPPLIES, HEATING, POSTAGE AND REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.

YOU ALSO HAVE ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRE THE COMMITMENT OF REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUES TO FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS AND FIRE AND EMS EQUIPMENT.

WHEN THE VALUE OF A PENNY GOES UP, YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE APPARATUS ACCOUNT AND THE EQUIPMENT ACCOUNT ARE INCREASED ACCORDINGLY.

THERE WERE SOME NEW GRANTS THAT YOU APPROVED THIS YEAR THAT WE ARE PERMANENTLY, INCLUDING IN THE FY24 BUDGET FOR ADOPTION.

THAT IS THE OPERATION CEASEFIRE GRANT, WHICH FUNDS AN ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY DEVOTED TO GUN VIOLENCE.

RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL SRO GRANT FOR HARRISON ELEMENTARY, AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOSS OF FUNDING OF VDEM E-911 DELTA FUNDS, WHICH CREATED AN INCREASE IN OUR TELEPHONE CHARGES.

THOSE DELTA FUNDS WERE A TEMPORARY STOPGAP FOR THREE YEARS.

THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM BUDGET IS INTRODUCED.

THEY MADE A FUNDING REQUEST TO THE BOARD OF 20.38 MILLION FOR OPERATIONS AND TEXTBOOKS, AND OUR INTRODUCED BUDGET ACTUALLY PROVIDED LEVEL FUNDING TO THEM, WHICH WAS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE REVENUE SHARING CALCULATION FORMULA.

AS REQUESTED REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

THERE WERE CHANGES USING THE SKINNY BUDGET AS COMPARED TO THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET RESULTED IN A $1.3 MILLION REDUCTION IN THEIR STATE FUNDING.

THEY MADE SOME EXPENDITURE CHANGES WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT DURING YOUR WORK SESSION AND THE UPDATED REQUEST THAT DR.

PENNYCUFF PROVIDED ON APRIL 19TH WAS 1.6 MILLION.

THIS EVENING WE RECAPPED A DISCUSSION HELD AT A JOINT CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCHOOL BOARD AND AN ADDITIONAL 396,000 IN REVENUE.

PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUE WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE SCHOOLS FOR OPERATIONS AND 543,000 ORIGINALLY TO BE REQUESTED TO PURCHASE SCHOOL BUSSES WILL NOW GO FOR OPERATIONS.

THE BOARD DID APPROVE THAT BY CONSENSUS THEY WILL REDUCE THEIR CONTINGENCY BY ANOTHER 706,000 TO BALANCE.

SO THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO SCHOOLS WILL BECOME $19,492,539. THIS IS A VISUAL THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD DURING THE WORK SESSION THAT RECAPS THAT CHANGE AND THE CORRESPONDING CHANGE IN EXPENDITURES REQUESTED BY THE SCHOOL DIVISION.

THE UTILITIES BUDGET CALLED FOR AN INCREASE IN WATER AND SEWER RATES FOR FY24 OF 5%.

THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND RATE INCREASE WAS APPROVED ON APRIL 11TH.

THE RESULTING INCREASE IN REVENUES IS JUST OVER $232,000 AND WILL RESULT IN AN AVERAGE INCREASE OF $4.55 A MONTH TO RESIDENTIAL USERS WHO USE 5000 GALLONS A MONTH.

THE FY24 BUDGET ALSO REMOVES THE USE OF CASH RESERVES FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

ORIGINALLY, THE UTILITIES BUDGET CALLED FOR A DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT OF 1.8 MILLION AND AS DISCUSSED ON APRIL 13TH, THAT WILL NOW BE TRANSFERRED TO CAPITAL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO HELP US MEET OUR 20% MATCH.

ONE APPROVED FEDERAL FUNDING AND/OR LESSEN THE USE OF UTILITY CASH RESERVES.

THE FIRST YEAR OF DEBT SERVICE IS INCLUDED FOR ROUTE 301, EXIT 45 WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY A TRANSFER FROM THE TOURISM FUND.

JUST LIKE FOR THE GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES, THE UTILITIES FUND EMPLOYEES WILL RECEIVE A STEP INCREASE MARKET REGRADES FOR THOSE POSITIONS WHO ARE BELOW AVERAGE.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF ONE FULL TIME UTILITY SUPERVISOR AND A RECLASSIFICATION OF A BILLING COLLECTION SPECIALIST FROM A ONE TO A TWO.

IT ALSO INCLUDES ONE NEW VEHICLE.

IN YOUR DEBT SERVICE FUND, THERE IS A $250,000 DECREASE IN THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE GENERAL FUND, AND THERE ARE NO NEW PROPOSED GENERAL FUND

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THE CIP WILL BE ABSENT INITIALLY, THAT $543,000 TRANSFER FOR BUSSES.

CONTRIBUTIONS WILL BE MADE TO THE APPARATUS ACCOUNT AND THE EQUIPMENT ACCOUNT, AND ALSO THERE IS A $314,000 INTENT OR PROJECT FOR FUEL FOCUS.

THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER USE OF FUND BALANCE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS IN LIEU OF BORROWING AS FOR THE ADDITIONAL CONVENIENCE STATION.

THE OTHER FUNDS, NON-GENERAL FUNDS INCLUDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TOURISM, COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, OUR LENGTH OF SERVICE AWARDS PROGRAM, WHICH IS AN ANNUITY PROGRAM FOR VOLUNTEERS, OUR STORMWATER FUND AND ADULT EDUCATION.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES TO THESE BUDGETS OTHER THAN RCJA, COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS SINCE THE BUDGETS WERE INTRODUCED.

THE EMPLOYEES SUPPORTED WITHIN THESE FUNDS ARE PROPOSED TO RECEIVE THE SAME PAY INCREASE CONSIDERATION AS OTHER EMPLOYEES.

SO THE ADVERTISED ALL FUNDS BUDGET WAS $155,626,978 AND IT IS A REDUCTION FROM THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

THE CHANGES SINCE THE BUDGET WAS INTRODUCED INCLUDE THE GENERAL FUND CHANGES THAT RESULTED FROM YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE TAX CHANGE AND THE REDUCTION IN STATE REVENUES AND SOME SHIFTS OR REDUCTIONS IN STATE FUNDING FROM SCHOOLS.

INCREASES FOR SCHOOLS BASED ON THE PUBLIC SERVICE TAX REVENUE AND THE SHIFT AND TRANSFER FOR THE BUSSES TO SCHOOL OPERATIONS. SINCE THE BUDGET WAS INTRODUCED ON MARCH 14TH.

YOU DID HAVE A NUMBER OF WORK SESSIONS ON MARCH 28TH.

YOU ADOPTED A RESOLUTION TO CHANGE THE DUE DATES FOR TAXES DUE IN JUNE TO JUNE 16TH.

THEY'RE NORMALLY DUE ON JUNE 5TH.

YOU HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 11TH AND APPROVED INCREASES TO THE UTILITY RATE.

WE HAD OUR TAX RATE, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ADOPTION ON APRIL 25TH.

THERE WAS A JOINT CHAIR VICE CHAIR MEETING ON APRIL 26TH.

MAY 9TH, YOU DID HAVE A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS A NUMBER OF CHANGES AND BUDGET ADOPTION IS TARGETED FOR MAY 23RD.

SO "TO-DO:" THE SCHOOL BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE BUDGET FOR ADOPTION.

WE WILL NOT INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AND WE WILL MAKE THE CHANGE FOR THE MED FLIGHT CONTRIBUTION.

AT THE END OF THIS EVENING, THERE WILL BE A CLOSED SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE BOARD EMPLOYEES.

TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING WAS ADVERTISED IN THE MARCH 30TH EDITION OF THE PROGRESS INDEX, AND NO ACTION WILL FOLLOW TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING PER CODE OF VIRGINIA.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.

QUESTIONS FOR MISS DREWRY? NO, SIR, I'M GOOD. NO, SIR.

[CHUCKLING] THANK YOU, MISS DREWRY.

WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FY24 BUDGET FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

IF YOU WERE HERE, YOU JUST HEARD OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR GIVE US THE REPORT OF WHAT THE PROPOSALS ARE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE 24 BUDGET, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HAVE ANYBODY THAT WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST FY24 COUNTY BUDGET HAS JUST PRESENTED, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

ONE MORE TIME. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND BE HEARD.

SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN FOR DISCUSSION TO THE BOARD, BUT NO ACTION.

NONE FOR ME, MR. CHAIRMAN. NO, SIR, I'M GOOD.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT A HUNDRED TIMES.

ANYBODY? OKAY, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'LL BE ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN TONIGHT.

IT'LL BE TAKEN AT THE NEXT MEETING.

SO THAT ENDS OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT.

THAT'S ALL OF THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.

WE WILL GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION.

[CLOSED SESSION]

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SO NO PUBLIC ACTION.

WE'LL JUST HAVE A ROLL CALL. DON'T WANT TO WAIT AROUND.

[INAUDIBLE]. THAT SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER PROVISION OF SECTION 2.2- 3711 OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSE SECTION 2.2-371181 DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE SALARIES OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CLERK TO THE BOARD AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

FURTHER MOVE THAT SUCH DISCUSSION SHALL BE LIMITED TO THOSE APPOINTEES OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IDENTIFIED IN THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU. HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL BE INTO CLOSED SESSION AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT, AND AGAIN, HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR BEING HERE.

THERE WILL BE NO ACTION TAKEN WHEN WE COME OUT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.