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THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR APRIL THE 27TH 2023 IS CALLED TO ORDER.
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. BRESKO HERE.
HERE, AND MR. WAYMACK IS ABSENT.
MS. CANEPA, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE FOR THE RECORD YOUR LOCATION THAT YOU'RE CALLING IN? I AM TRAVELING FOR A FAMILY EVENT.
OKAY, WOULD YOU ALL STAND AND JOIN US AS WE HAVE THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? DEAR LORD, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT OUR CITIZENS, GIVE US DISCERNMENT.
LET US REMEMBER THE SICK AND THE BEREAVED AND CARRY US SAFELY HOME IN YOUR NAME.
OF ALLEGIANCE] THANK YOU, MR. BRESKO.
OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CHANGE OUR AGENDA TO HEAR PUBLIC HEARING P6 AT PUBLIC HEARING ONE AND THEN THE OTHERS OCCUR IN ORDER THEREAFTER. SO MOVED.
CALL] MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, COULD YOU MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE ONE DEFERRAL? YES. ON P5, NOW, WITH THE CHANGE, WHICH WAS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR REQUEST OF [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENT LLC HAS BEEN DEFERRED.
SO IF ANYONE WAS HERE FOR THAT CASE ONLY, THAT WILL NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT.
[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]
NOW I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA WITH THE CHANGES.ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE NOT BEING HEARD AS A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I'M SHIRLEY GIVENS AND I HAD EMAILED.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
NOW THE COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS.
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YOU. NO ONE.OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE COMMISSIONERS COMMENT PERIOD.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS]
AT THIS TIME, WE WERE GOING TO WELCOME OUR NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONER MEMBER BRIAN WAYMACK, BUT HE IS OUT OF TOWN, SO WE WILL DO THAT AT A LATER DATE.NOW WE GO TO THE ADOPTION OF THE WORK SESSION MINUTE MEETINGS FOR MARCH THE 20TH, 2023.
I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT THE WORK SESSION MINUTES.
I MAKE A MOTION, IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES, BE ADOPTED AS WRITTEN.
THANK YOU. NOW WE COME TO THE SUBDIVISION WAIVER W-21.
OH, EXCUSE ME. I FORGOT TO ADOPT THE BUSINESS MEETING.
NOW WE COME TO THE ADOPTION OF THE BUSINESS MINUTE MEETINGS FOR MARCH THE 23RD, 2023.
A SECOND TO ADOPT THE BUSINESS MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH 23RD.
MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MEETING MINUTES OF MARCH THE 23RD AS WRITTEN.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.
ELDER AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
THIS IS A SUBDIVISION WAIVER REQUEST APPLICATION NUMBER W-23-01, AND THIS IS A REQUEST OF DLDGH LLC FOR A WAIVER OF A REQUIREMENT OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO PERMIT A SUBDIVISION OF ONE LOT INTO TWO IN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA WITHOUT CONSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK AS IS REQUIRED IN THE CODE BY THAT CODE SECTION.
ON THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED ON BAXTER ROAD.
AGAIN VACANT WITH TREES ON THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT'S GOAL IS TO DIVIDE THAT LOT INTO TWO SMALLER LOTS, AS THEY HAVE PROPOSED ON A SUBDIVISION PLAT WHICH THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW BY THE COUNTY STAFF , AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF SUBDIVISION, INCLUDING THE PROVISION OF A SIDEWALK WHEN THE SUBDIVISION OCCURS IN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA AND IF THE DENSITY EXCEEDS ONE UNIT PER ACRE, SO ONE ACRE LOT DIVIDED BY TWO IS ABOUT IT EXCEEDS THAT ACRE.
SO THE APPLICANT'S JUSTIFICATION FOR REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THAT REQUIREMENT IS THAT THEY STATED THAT BAXTER ROAD IS ALREADY DEVELOPED AS A RESIDENTIAL USE WITH NO SIDEWALKS IN PLACE.
HERE'S A LOOK AT THE SUBDIVISION PLAT AGAIN SHOWING THAT LOT DIVIDED INTO TWO.
CONSISTENT WITH THE LOTS AROUND IT.
IT'S COVERED BY TREES RIGHT NOW.
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THE PLANNING AREA.WHEN LOTS ARE PROPOSED TO BE PLATTED ON EXISTING STREETS, THEY SHALL BE LOCATED IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND CONSTRUCTED TO VDOT SPECIFICATIONS AND THEN ANOTHER SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE ALLOWS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO WAIVE STANDARDS SUCH AS THAT ONE AND SPECIFIES CRITERIA FOR GRANTING APPROVAL, AND THOSE CRITERIA ARE IN CASES OF UNUSUAL SITUATIONS OR WHERE STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE GENERAL REGULATIONS WOULD RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL INJUSTICE OR HARDSHIP, AND THAT NO WAIVER SHALL BE GRANTED, WHICH IS ILLEGAL OR WOULD PREJUDICE THE HEALTH SAFETY OF CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.
VDOT LOOKED AT CONSIDERED THIS WAIVER REQUEST AND THEY STATED THAT VDOT'S POLICY FOR SIDEWALKS AND OTHER PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES REQUIRES THAT THEY PROVIDE A PUBLIC BENEFIT IN ORDER TO BE STATE MAINTAINED.
VDOT LOOKS TO DETERMINE IF THE STARTING POINT IS LIKELY TO GENERATE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND THE DESTINATION IS SOMEWHERE THAT PEOPLE WOULD TRAVEL TO AND VDOT WILL ACCEPT AND MAINTAIN THE SIDEWALK IF IT IS PART OF A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
VDOT'S EVALUATION WAS THAT THIS PROPOSED SIDEWALK WOULD NOT PROVIDE THAT PUBLIC NEED.
IT WOULD ONLY BE ACCEPTED IF IT WAS PART OF A LARGER PEDESTRIAN PLAN FOR THIS AREA.
THE COUNTY'S PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF.
SO IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THIS KIND OF THING BE ADDRESSED IN THE NEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH IS TARGETED FOR NEXT YEAR AND TO BEGIN AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED AND APPROVED SUBDIVISION WAIVER REQUESTS.
SO STAFF REVIEWED THIS AGAINST THE CRITERIA FOR MAKING A DECISION, AND IN STAFF'S OPINION, IT DOES APPEAR TO MEET THE CRITERIA PROVIDED, WHICH WE LOOKED AT THERE IN THE ITALICS, UNUSUAL SITUATIONS OR STRICT ADHERENCE.
THIS SEEMS TO FALL UNDER THE STRICT ADHERENCE TO GENERAL REGULATIONS WOULD BE AN INJUSTICE OR HARDSHIP STAFF'S PRACTICE WITH THIS BEING AN EXCEPTION TO THE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS WE DON'T OFFER, IT'S SIMILAR TO A VARIANCE THAT GOES TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
SO WE'RE NOT OFFERING A RECOMMENDATION, BUT AGAIN, WE NOTE THAT IT DOES APPEAR TO MEET THAT CRITERIA IF THE COMMISSION AGREES, AND SO IF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST FOR A WAIVER, IT IS REQUIRED TO FIND THAT IT MEETS ALL OF THE CRITERIA PROVIDED IN THE ORDINANCE, WHICH, AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED THROUGH AND THAT'S PREPARED IN YOUR DRAFT RESOLUTION. IF YOU DO AGREE STAFF HAS SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR YOU TO USE IF YOU WISH TO APPROVE OR DENY THIS, AND AGAIN FOR YOU, THERE IS THE CRITERIA.
IF IT MEETS BOTH OF THOSE CRITERIA, THEN THEN YOU MAY APPROVE IT.
CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AND LET ME CHECK FIRST, DID THE APPLICANT WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? WE DO HAVE THE OWNER, PROPERTY OWNER AND THEIR SURVEYOR HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, AND OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DID NOTIFY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THIS TYPE OF REQUEST IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO BEAR A FINANCIAL BURDEN TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED BY VDOT FOR MAINTENANCE AND IT IS ALREADY IN A PREEXISTING DEVELOPED AREA.
WOULD NOT CONNECT TO ANY OTHER FORESEEABLE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
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CALL THE ROLL.[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
NOW WE WILL GO TO SPECIAL EXCEPTION SE-23-04.LET'S SEE, WHO IS IT? MR. GRAVES? YES.
IT'S THE REQUEST OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY TO PERMIT BUILDINGS OR USES FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT PURPOSES WITHIN AN RA RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW A CONVENIENCE CENTER, WHICH IS A FACILITY THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO DROP OFF SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLABLE MATERIALS TO BE COLLECTED AND TAKEN AWAY TO OFFSITE TRANSFER STATIONS OR LANDFILLS.
THIS FACILITY WOULD OCCUPY APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES AND WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAILS.
IT'S WITHIN A SEVEN ACRE AREA THAT WE HAVE SHOWN ON A MAP.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 175 ACRES IN TOTAL SIZE.
HERE IS THE 175 ACRE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED OWNED BY THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE.
THERE'S THE SEVEN ACRE BOX THAT I WAS REFERRING TO, AND THEN INSIDE OF THAT BOX IS WE'LL LOOK AT A SITE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THAT, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ESSENTIALLY LOCATED IN THE COUNTY AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER.
ON THIS SLIDE IS THE ZONING MAP.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL, AS ARE ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE AERIAL VIEW.
THE MAIN FOCUS AREA IS STILL OUTLINED IN RED IN THE BOTTOM CORNER.
SO THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT.
THE CURRENT CONVENIENCE CENTER SITES OFFERED IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY ARE ON UNION BRANCH, WHICH IS A FULL SERVICE, FULL TIME FACILITY, AND THERE IS A DROP OFF, TEMPORARY DROP OFF OR OCCASIONAL DROP OFF LOCATION BEHIND BURROWSVILLE LIBRARY THAT'S ONLY OPERATED FOR A FEW SPECIFIC HOURS DURING THE WEEK.
YOU KNOW, WITH THERE ONLY BEING ONE LOCATION IN ONE PART OF THE COUNTY.
IN 2018, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BEGAN EVALUATING POSSIBLE LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY FOR AN ADDITIONAL CONVENIENCE CENTER IN A MORE CENTRAL LOCATION, AND THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS TO PRIMARILY PROVIDE THAT LOCATION FOR DISTRICT TWO RESIDENTS, AND THE BOARD EVALUATED ALL THE POSSIBLE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES WHICH COULD ACCOMMODATE SUCH A FACILITY AND DECIDED UPON THE YANCEY TRACT.
THIS 175 ACRE PROPERTY IS THE BEST LOCATION THAT THE COUNTY OWNS AND THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR SCHOOLS, SPORTS FIELDS, A LIBRARY AND A COMMUNITY CENTER.
THERE WAS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THAT MASTER PLAN ON THE PROPERTY IN 2007, AND AND SO THIS WOULD NOT, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATE THAT POSSIBILITY OF THAT , BUT THERE'S NO CURRENT PROGRESS ON THAT.
THIS IS THE CURRENT FOCUS OF HOW TO USE THAT PROPERTY.
THE YANCEY TRACT OFFERS MULTIPLE POSSIBLE SITES BECAUSE IT IS A LARGE PROPERTY.
THE COUNTY CONTRACTED WITH AN ENGINEER TO DESIGN THE NEW FACILITY AND EVALUATE THE BEST LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY, AND BEFORE SELECTING THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT, SORRY, WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE DELAY.
ALL RIGHT, A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. THERE'S A PICTURE THERE OF AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE COUNTY'S UNION BRANCH FACILITY CONVENIENCE CENTER, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE PLACES WHERE RESIDENTS CAN BACK UP THEIR VEHICLES AND DROP THE WASTE INTO THE CONTAINERS.
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AGAIN, THAT IS JUST A BROAD AREA THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF TREES SURROUNDING THE FACILITY.THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 3 TO 4 ACRES OF THE ACTUAL FACILITY AROUND.
IT WILL BE BUFFER SCREENING AREAS AND THE ENTRANCE ROAD.
HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS FROM OTHER CONVENIENCE CENTERS IN VIRGINIA.
ON THE TOP ONE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CONTAINERS ARE BESIDE A RETAINING WALL SO THAT VEHICLES CAN BACK UP FOR EASILY DROPPING THINGS INTO THERE.
THAT'S HOW THIS FACILITY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED IN A SIMILAR MANNER.
ON THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE A GENTLEMAN WALKING UP TO DEPOSIT TRASH IN A DUMPSTER.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS SOME INFORMATION FROM A SLIDE THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BY THE ENGINEER INDICATING HOW THEY ARRIVED AT SELECTING THIS SPOT ON THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THIS IS AT THE CORNER ON; IT'S ONE SMALL PART OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY SAID THAT THIS MAINTAINS GOOD SCREENING FROM ROADWAYS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THEY SPOKE WITH VDOT AT THE TIME THAT PRELIMINARILY NO TURN LANES OR ROAD WIDENING WOULD BE NEEDED.
THE COUNTY MAY DESIRE TO WIDEN THE ROADWAY FROM THE ENTRANCE AREA, AND THEY THEY HAD SOME OTHER NOTES THERE, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT HOW THIS SPOT ON THE PROPERTY WAS SELECTED.
FOR THIS, VEHICLES WOULD ENTER OFF OF EAST QUAKER ROAD AND CIRCULATE THROUGH THE FACILITY WITH THEIR PARKING AREAS PROVIDED AND LIKE I SAID, THE BACKUP DROP OFF AREAS ARE THERE AS WELL AS SOME GROUND LEVEL CONTAINERS.
THIS IS JUST A ROUGH OUTLINE OF THAT AREA ON THE AERIAL VIEW.
THIS IS MEANT TO ILLUSTRATE THE SEPARATION FROM THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS.
WE PROVIDED A DEFINITION FOR CONVENIENCE CENTER, WHICH IS FOUND IN THE STATE CODE.
I'M SUMMARIZING THIS DEFINITION.
IT'S A VERY CODE WORTHY DEFINITION.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SET OUT AS A STANDARDIZED THING IN THE STATE CODE.
AS A REMINDER OF WHAT THE DEFINITION OF SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS, AS IT'S USED GENERALLY.
THAT IS A USE THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE GENERALLY OR WITHOUT RESTRICTION THROUGHOUT THE ZONING DISTRICT, BUT IF IT'S CONTROLLED AS TO NUMBER, AREA, LOCATION OR RELATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, MORALS, ORDER, ET CETERA.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS CONTINUE.
IF THERE WERE A REQUIREMENT FOR TURN LANE THAT'S EVALUATED BASED ON ENGINEERING STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO GO IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY.
THE REGARDING VISUAL, THERE WOULD OF COURSE BE DUMPSTERS AND WASTE COLLECTION MATERIALS GOING INTO THE PROPERTY AND STORED ON THE PROPERTY BEFORE THEY'RE TAKEN OFF SITE.
THE MITIGATION FOR THAT IS THAT THIS WOULD BE VISUALLY SCREENED FROM THE ROAD OTHER THAN THE ENTRANCE ITSELF AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES, THERE'S GOING TO BE PERIMETER FENCING AND VEGETATION SURROUNDING IT.
THE CERTAINLY WOULD BE NOISE FROM COMPACTORS, DUMPING MATERIALS AND WASTE COLLECTION VEHICLES, RETRIEVING THAT STUFF ON AN OCCASIONAL BASIS.
THE MITIGATION FOR THAT IS ALL THESE CONTAINERS WILL BE LOCATED AT LEAST 150FT FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES, AND A VEGETATIVE BUFFER, INCLUDING TREES, WILL SURROUND THE PROPERTY, SURROUND THE FACILITY ON ALL SIDES, AND THEN REGARDING ODOR, ALL CONTAINERS AGAIN WILL BE LOCATED AT LEAST 150FT AWAY.
THERE WILL BE TREES AND SHRUBS TO SCREEN THAT SCREEN THIS FACILITY FROM THE SURROUNDINGS, AND OF COURSE, ALL CONTAINERS WILL BE EMPTIED ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHICH SHOULD PREVENT
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ANY SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION OF ODORS OUTSIDE OF THIS FACILITY.PLANNING AND ZONING COMMENTS CONTINUE.
SURROUNDING LAND USES YOU HAVE PRIMARILY PUBLIC VACANT.
IT'S A FIELD AND AND THERE IS A HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY AND THERE ARE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET AS THE ENTRANCE FOR THIS, AND THE ADDRESSES FOR THOSE ARE PROVIDED THERE, AND WE HAVE PROVIDED AERIAL VIEWS AND THINGS SHOWING THEIR PROXIMITY IS REGARDING IF THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS.
YES, THERE APPEARS TO BE ADEQUATE SEPARATION FROM ADJACENT USES AND SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS ARE ALL THE SAME, AND REGARDING IF IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WELL, THE PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR PUBLIC AND SEMIPUBLIC USES, SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS AS IT EXISTS. REGARDING TRAFFIC IMPACTS, VDOT HAS REVIEWED THIS.
NO DETAILED CHAPTER 527 IMPACT ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED BASED ON THE EXPECTED TRIP GENERATION.
NOW, THE COUNTY WILL STILL HAVE TO ESTIMATE THE NUMBER OF TRIPS GENERATED BY THIS AND AND THAT WOULD DETERMINE IF TURN LANES ARE REQUIRED OR NOT, AND SO THAT IS STILL IN THE PROCESS.
ALL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE LAYOUT AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS AND ENTRANCE REQUIREMENTS WILL BE REVIEWED IN DETAIL AT THE TIME OF A SITE PLAN REVIEW, AND SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET THE CODES JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PROPERTY BEING DEVELOPED FOR BUSINESS USE.
VDOT'S COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED HERE FOR YOU.
THEY SAID THAT NO TRIP GENERATION DATA WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION THAT IS STANDARD AT THE TIME OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION THAT'S NORMALLY HANDLED AT A SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT FOR THIS IS THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES AND THEY ARE AWARE AND WORKING WITH THE ENGINEER ON ON RESOLVING THAT QUESTION.
A COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE IS REQUIRED.
ACCORDING TO VDOT, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN SHOWS A PARTIAL WIDENING.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE RESOLVED IN THE DETAILS.
IT'S JUST A DETAIL THAT WILL BE RESOLVED ON ON WHETHER THAT'S NEEDED OR NOT.
THE VDOT STATED THAT THE ACCESS GATE MUST BE A SUFFICIENT DISTANCE FROM THE ACTUAL ROAD SO THAT A VEHICLE CAN PULL UP TO THE GATE WHEN THE GATE IS CLOSED AFTER HOURS AND NOT EXTEND INTO EAST QUAKER ROAD.
VDOT SAID THEY HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED APPLICATION.
NOW, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE CONDITIONS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY MUST ADHERE TO AND ITS USE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THOSE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS USE ON THIS PROPERTY, AND STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED SEVERAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING THAT THE CONVENIENCE CENTER IS A CONVENIENCE CENTER AND CONSISTENT WITH THE DEFINITION LAID OUT IN THE STATE CODE.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL BE BETWEEN 7 A.M, AND 6 P.M.
THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WOULD VARY BY DAY.
THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO BE, IN GENERAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WE LOOKED AT.
ALL WASTE AND RECYCLING MATERIALS AND STORAGE CONTAINERS SHALL BE LOCATED.
A MINIMUM DISTANCE OF 150FT FROM ALL PROPERTY LINES.
THE COUNTY SHALL MAINTAIN A VEGETATIVE BUFFER, INCLUDING TREES AND SHRUBS AROUND THE PERIMETER, WHICH SHALL BE SUFFICIENT TO EFFECTIVELY SCREEN, CONTAIN AND SEPARATE THE ON SITE ACTIVITIES FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES UNDER PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
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WITHOUT EXTENDING INTO EAST QUAKER ROAD.STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT IF IT IS APPROVED, AND THE BASIS FOR THIS IS THE COUNTY EXPLORED ALL PUBLICLY, ALL PUBLICLY OWNED LAND OPTIONS IN THE COUNTY, AND THIS IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE LOCATION SELECTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SERVE COUNTY RESIDENTS WITH THIS TYPE OF SERVICE. THE REQUEST APPEARS TO BE REASONABLY COMPATIBLE WITH CURRENT AND FUTURE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS WHICH ARE INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH CODE REQUIREMENTS AND MITIGATE EXPECTED IMPACTS.
CAN I? AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE MR. SIMMONS COME UP.
HE'S THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.
HE'S GOING TO ADD SOME MORE DETAIL HERE, AND AFTER HE'S DONE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US AS STAFF OF THE COUNTY, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I'M DEAN SIMMONS.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF GENERAL SERVICES FOR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
BASICALLY, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? TIM'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF COVERING MOST OF THE POINTS.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY, WE STARTED THIS SEARCH IN 2018.
WE HAVE THE PLACE AT UNION BRANCH IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S MORE LOCATED, MORE CENTRALLY IN THE COUNTY, AND WE ORIGINALLY STARTED THE SEARCH LOOKING IN DISTRICT TWO, AND BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO PURCHASE PROPERTY.
WE WERE LOOKING AT PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY ALREADY OWNED.
SO AFTER REVIEWING WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AND WE PRESENTED THESE THREE OPTIONS TO THE BOARD AND THEY PICKED THE WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS THE BEST LOCATION FOR THIS PROJECT.
LIKE TIM WAS SAYING, THIS IS A CONVENIENCE CENTER AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TO UNION BRANCH.
YOU KNOW, IT GETS BUSY ON SATURDAYS AND THE ROAD GETS BACKED UP AND ALL AND WE'RE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT STRESS ON UNION BRANCH AND TO BE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY AFTER THE REQUEST.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MY ONLY CONCERN ON IT IS THE EAST QUAKER ROAD, THE WIDTH OF IT WITH NO TURNING LANES.
IF YOU HAVE A COUNTY CLEAN UP DAY LIKE WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND PEOPLE ARE LINED UP TO GET IN THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY BLOCK THAT ROAD UP. WELL A PART OF THE STUDY THAT WE HAD TO PROVIDE VDOT IS THAT WE ACTUALLY, IN THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS WE HAD WIDENING THE ROAD IN THAT AREA IN THE AREA OF THE ENTRANCE.
WE'VE ALSO ADDRESSED THAT AS A CUE AREA SO THAT PEOPLE IT'S MORE THAN 400 AND SOME FEET FROM THE GATE TO THE SCALES SO THAT THEY HAVE AN AREA TO QUEUE SO THEY CAN GET OFF OF EAST QUAKER ROAD, AND IT MAY BE ONCE WE DO THE STUDY WITH VDOT THAT WE HAVE TO ADD TURN LANES AND MAYBE EVEN WIDEN THE ROAD FROM THE CORNER, BUT THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED.
WE WILL DO WHATEVER VDOT RECOMMENDS US TO DO FOR THE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE INFORMATION, THE INFORMATION AND THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR DUMPING THE DUMPSTERS AND STUFF.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE VDOT LOOKS AT THAT, IF THEY WANT A TURN LANE, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO PUT A TURN LANE IN, BUT WE'RE PREPARED TO DO WHATEVER VDOT TELLS US WE HAVE TO DO.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION. JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF COMMENTS RELATED TO WAS COUNTY OWNED LAND IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK CONSIDERED FOR THIS? I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH THE INDUSTRIAL PARK BUT I DO NOT THINK THE COUNTY HAS I THINK ALL THE LAND IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IS EITHER SPOKEN FOR OR BEEN PURCHASED.
ANYONE ELSE. LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT IN THE EDA AND I'M NOT IN THE SO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU.I'LL ADD THAT WE DID ADVERTISE THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER.
WE DID POST A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.
WE DID SEND A MAILING TO ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE DID RECEIVE THREE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC PRIOR TO THIS MEETING WHICH WE PROVIDED FOR YOU, AND THEY THEY EXPRESSED OPPOSITION.
ONE PERSON JUST TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE AND YOU'VE GOT THEM IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT ONE PERSON SAID JAMES GLAZIER IS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, DID EXPRESS OPPOSITION FOR NOT WANTING TO HEAR THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
HE THOUGHT IT COULD BE PUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THAT HE WAS THAT HE SEEMED TO BE SURPRISED ON THE COUNTY USE OF THE PROPERTY FOR THIS RATHER THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
THE ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER, DAVID HART, IS OPPOSED.
HE SUGGESTED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND THEN JUAN JONES ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER OR A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE COUNTY STATED HE IS OPPOSED ON THAT PROPERTY AND ALSO MENTIONED THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
SO WE DID RECEIVE THREE COMMENTS PRIOR TO.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
THANK YOU. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. GRAVES? OKAY, IF NOT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICK [INAUDIBLE].
I LIVE AT 9750 EAST QUAKER ROAD.
MENTIONED WAS A MOMENT AGO ABOUT SMELL AND 150FT, I HAVE TO LAUGH AT THAT, CONSIDERING, NOW I REALIZE IT'S A LANDFILL, BUT FOR YEARS WE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE SMELLS COMING FROM THE SUSSEX DUMP SEVERAL MILES AWAY FROM THERE.
SO PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW 150FT, WHETHER IT'S NEW TRASH OR OLD, WILL NOT SMELL.
YOU HAVE PREVAILING WINDS FROM THE NORTH.
EVERY I KNOW BECAUSE I LIVE THERE, THE WINDS BLOW BACK TO MY HOUSE PREVAILING WINDS FROM THE NORTH, SAM AND KELLY GLAZIER ARE GOING TO SUFFER CONSTANTLY FROM THE SMELLS OF THIS FACILITY, AND SO ARE THE OTHER HOUSES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO THESE PEOPLE.
THEY'RE TAXPAYERS, TOO. YOU HAVE 175 ACRES.
YOU HAVE A MUCH BETTER ROAD ON 156.
WHY NOT BACK DOWN THE ROAD AND OPEN IT UP DOWN THERE CLOSER TO WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR SEWAGE FACILITY? WHY NOT PUT THE TWO STINKING FACILITIES OF THIS COUNTY SIDE BY SIDE INSTEAD OF POSTING THEM RIGHT UP THERE? THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS.
YOU ALREADY NEED A TURNING LANE AT EAST QUAKER AND WEST QUAKER ROAD.
IT'S THE MOST DANGEROUS INTERSECTION IN THIS COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
HOW DO YOU POSSIBLY ADD TRAFFIC TO THAT LOCATION WHEN WE HAVE MORE ACCIDENTS THERE THAN PROBABLY ANY LOCATION IN THIS COUNTY? IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
I HAVE BEEN BLOCKED NUMEROUS TIMES, HAD TO TURN AROUND TO GO OUT OF THERE ALMOST WEEKLY.
OTHER FACILITIES, YOU SAY THAT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
I WOULD BEG TO DIFFER WITH THAT BECAUSE PROMISES ARE COMING IN HERE.
SO I WOULD SAY WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
WE MIGHT FIND WE HAVE SOMETHING VERY VALUABLE.
WAS THERE EVER A CITIZEN COMMITTEE SO WE COULD ASK THESE QUESTIONS SO WE COULD BRING UP THINGS LIKE THIS? DID ANYONE THINK THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD GET TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY IN 2018 BEFORE THEY MADE THIS DECISION? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS HAPPENS.
WHY HAVE WE PAID ENGINEERS FOR A DESIGN ON SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN APPROVED YET? WHY ARE WE WASTING MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW? 100% IS BEING APPROVED UNLESS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ONE OF WHICH IS AFFILIATED WITH THE TRASH COMPANY, INDIRECTLY, VERY INDIRECTLY, BUT HE IS AFFILIATED, PUSH THIS ISSUE THROUGH.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S BETTER PLACES.
THE BUREN TRACT RIGHT UP HERE.
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YOU WANT TO CENTRALIZE YOUR LOCATION? IT'S RIGHT OVER HERE.WHY NOT LOOK AT A FACILITY LIKE THAT AS WELL? I UNDERSTAND, AND COULD I ASK THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE DO NOT MAKE COMMENTS BECAUSE IT'S HARD ENOUGH FOR US TO HEAR WITHOUT HAVING TO HEAR THE BACKGROUND.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.
FELLOW MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M A RESIDENT AT 7500 TRAILING ROCK ROAD, PRINCE GEORGE.
EVERYONE THINKS ALL WE DO IS SIT AROUND AND LIST AND SELL HOUSES AND MAKE ALL THIS BIG MONEY, BUT WE ARE ALSO HERE FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY THAT OWNS PROPERTY.
AS MR. [INAUDIBLE] SAID, THERE IS MORE WRECKS ON 156.
THERE WAS JUST ONE THIS PAST SUNDAY THAT CAUSED FATALITIES.
EAST QUAKER, WEST QUAKER ALWAYS WRECKS IN THAT AREA.
I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO, THE ODOR IS GOING TO BE BAD.
THE RODENTS ARE GOING TO BE BAD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRIAL PART.
NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE IN MY ASSOCIATION.
WHY DID WE NOT LOOK THERE? THE COUNTY OR VDOT JUST SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ON PUTTING A NEW ENTRANCE TO COME IN THERE TO GET SOME OF THE HEAVIER TRUCKS OFF OF 460 SO THEY CAN MAKE A TURN IN TO GO INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
I WILL BE SHOCKED IF YOU ALL PASS THIS THAT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT WITHIN A YEAR OR LESS OF TURN LANES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS MORE EXPENSE FOR THIS COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT ABOUT THE EXTERNAL OR ECONOMIC OBSOLESCENCE OBSOLESCENCE THAT THIS WILL PRESENT ON PROPERTY OWNERS? THIS WILL PRESENT IN THE COUNTY.
THIS WILL PRESENT TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MOVE TO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
SO I THINK THIS COMMITTEE NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK.
THERE HAS TO BE OTHER PROPERTY.
IT'S ON A MAIN THOROUGHFARE, WEST QUAKER, EAST QUAKER, AND 156.
I'VE NEVER BEEN ON ANY OF THOSE ROADS THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO STOP AND WAIT FOR TRAFFIC, PERIOD AND IT WAS JUST STATED, WELL, IF WE HAVE A LINE GOING IN, WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO BE ? THEY'RE GOING TO BE BACKED UP ON 156 OR ON QUAKER ROAD.
THERE'S NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE EXCEPT TO BE BACKED UP.
SO I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDS TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS.
IF WE NEED TO GO AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MY ASSOCIATION HERE, WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS HERE, BUT I DIDN'T FIGURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO SEE 500 REALTORS IN HERE TONIGHT.
MADAM CHAIR LADY, MY NAME IS DIANE HART.
WE'RE AT 7418 WEST QUAKER ROAD.
WE JUST BUILT THAT HOUSE IN OCTOBER.
THE TRAFFIC, AS OTHERS HAVE STATED, THE TRAFFIC IS SO BAD THERE ON THAT ROAD.
WE HAVE FOUR GRANDDAUGHTERS THAT HAVE TO CATCH THE BUS.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRUCKS GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
YOU CAN'T GET TWO TRUCKS, ONE GOING NORTH AND ONE GOING SOUTH ON THAT ROAD.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE ODORS.
WE WERE RIGHT THERE. WE JUST MOVED THERE, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF STUFF GOING ON.
SO PLEASE CONSIDER THINK ABOUT THAT.
THOSE THAT ROAD IS REALLY TINY FOR THOSE BIG TRUCKS.
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THANK YOU.GOOD EVENING. I'M JEAN SHANKS.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON ONE THING, MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND MS. WHITE.
THE LOT RIGHT BESIDE THE FACILITY THAT IS CURRENTLY ON UNION BRANCH, WHEN IT WENT ON THE MARKET, IT SOLD FOR ONE THIRD THE VALUE OF WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT DID NOT SIT BESIDE THAT. SO THAT'S REAL CONCERNING FOR THE FIVE PROPERTIES AND HOMES AND THE LADY THAT JUST SPOKE.
THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THEIR VALUE AND THEIR PROPERTY.
SO MY BIGGEST CONCERN, THOUGH, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
SO WE HAD THESE WEEKEND WARRIORS WITH TRAILERS THAT ONLY PULL THEM ONCE A MONTH COMING DOWN WEST QUAKER ROAD AND PULL TRAILERS EVERY DAY WITH MY BUSINESS, AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE COMING DOWN THERE ALL WEEKEND LONG.
YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH PEOPLE IN THAT DITCH.
THERE'S DEFINITELY A ROAD ISSUE.
OBVIOUSLY VDOT HAS NOT PROVIDED ANY INFORMATION YET.
THAT IS A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION.
SCHOOL BUS TRAFFIC MORNING AND EVENINGS.
UNION BRANCH I'LL MENTION THAT THE TRAFFIC ON THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON ON THE WEEKEND TO SEE TRAFFIC ALREADY BACKED OUT IN UNION BRANCH, AND SO I DON'T KNOW THE DISTANCES HERE, BUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE DISTANCE FROM 156 INTERSECTION AND THEN INTO THE FACILITY.
IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE.
I WOULD IMAGINE THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC BACKED UP ON QUAKER EXCUSE ME, AND AT 156 AND THEN 55 LAST WEEK I HAD A TRACTOR TRAILER LOCK UP BECAUSE SOMEBODY STOPPED AND I WAS AT THE STOP SIGN AND WITNESSED THEM LOCK UP THEIR BRAKES.
SO THEY COME OFF THE BRAKES AND WENT AROUND THE CAR RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION.
I FOUND OUT LAST NIGHT IN THE MEETING FOR THE NIGHT BEFORE LAST AT THE BOARD MEETING.
THAT IS A HICCUP THE ENGINEER COMPANY MISSED.
THEY ALSO NEED A POTENTIALLY 55 TO $60,000 DRAIN FIELD, AND WELL, HOWEVER, THE NEW PUMP STATION THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THERE MAKES IT MANDATORY FOR ANY NEW RESIDENT OR FAILING DRAIN FIELD RESIDENT TO HOOK TO THE NEW SYSTEM, BUT THE COUNTY IS ASKING IF THEY CAN HAVE A DRAIN FIELD INSTALLED ON SITE.
THEY HAVE TO UTILIZE THAT AND PAY FEES TO HOOK UP TO THAT AND THEN A MONTHLY BILL.
SO I JUST FEEL THAT THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO APPROVE AT THIS TIME.
I THINK IT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE INVESTIGATION LIKE SOME OF THE OTHERS SAID, MAYBE THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DID NOT GET A NOTICE. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT, AND I LOOKED BACK, I GOT THE NEWSLETTER.
IT'S NOT IN THIS MONTH OR THIS EDITION.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WAS GOING TO READ MY COMMENTS THAT HE READ EARLIER BECAUSE MY ADDRESS IS CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, BUT I AM THE OWNER/LAND OWNER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS WHOLE PROPERTY AND I DO NOT WISH TO HAVE A DUMP ON BESIDE MY LAND AND I AM ABOUT TO RETIRE IN ABOUT 4 OR 5 YEARS AND MY GRANDMA'S LAND IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND HER HOUSE IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THIS.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE FRONT PORCH, ALL I'M GOING TO SEE ACROSS MY HAYFIELD IS A BUNCH OF TRUCKS, A LOUD NOISE AND A DUMP AND SMELL AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND ON THE ROAD ISSUE, WHEN YOU COME OFF 156 AND COME DOWN TO WHERE THE ENTRANCE OF THIS IS PROPOSED, YOU WILL NEED A TURNING LANE BECAUSE THERE'S A BLIND SPOT.
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PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO PLOW INTO IT, AND THERE'S 8 OR 10 SCHOOL BUSSES THAT GOES TO HARRISON SCHOOL EVERY MORNING AND COMING HOME EVERY EVENING.LIKE I SAID THE LAND ACROSS THIS LAND HAS BEEN GLAZIER LAND SINCE THE CIVIL WAR, AND THIS PROPOSAL HERE IS TRYING TO RUN THE GLAZIERS OFF THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WILL DEVALUE EVERYBODY'S LAND OVER HERE.
NOT A DUMP AND NOT A WATER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO I AM [INAUDIBLE] AGAINST BOTH OF THEM.
HI. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT, SO I'M ZACHARY GLAZIER.
I REMEMBER THEY CUT ALL THE WOODS DOWN RIGHT THERE WHEN I WAS LITTLE AND I REMEMBER DEER HUNTING.
YOU COULD SEE THE DEER RUN ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CUT OVER RIGHT THERE, BUT WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THE DRIVEWAY AT 9512 EAST QUAKER ROAD COMING OUT OF MY DAD'S GRANDMA'S HOUSE, EVEN WITH A ONE TON TRUCK, YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT TURN WITHOUT GOING TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD IN THE DITCH JUST COMING OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY. THERE IS NO WAY THAT A HEAVY TRUCK IS GOING TO MAKE A TURN IN AND OUT OF THE DUMP RIGHT THERE WITHOUT ADDING MAKING THAT A FOUR LANE ROAD RIGHT THERE, AND IF YOU DO THAT, MAKE A FOUR LANE ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DITCH AND THEN PUT TURN LANES THROUGH THERE.
THERE'S JUST NO WAY HEAVY TRUCK CAN GO THROUGH THERE WITHOUT HAVING TWO TURNING LANES ON BOTH SIDES, AND WITHIN THE LAST THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS, SO MANY PEOPLE MY AGE START DRIVING TO HIGH SCHOOL HAVE BEEN IN DEADLY.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE DIED IN CAR CRASHES RIGHT THERE IN THAT AREA FROM ALL THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE AND PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THERE WAY TOO FAST ON 156 AND THERE'S ALL THEM TRUCK CRASHES THERE ALL THE TIME, AND ALSO WANTED TO SAY WITH ALL THOSE THAT AGRICULTURAL LAND RIGHT THERE AND THE CORN FIELDS AND THE FARM RIGHT THERE.
THAT CLOGS UP TRAFFIC ENOUGH, BUT THINK ABOUT ALL THE WASTE THAT'S GOING TO BE SCATTERED ALL OVER THE STREET RIGHT THERE COMING OUT OF THE DUMP THAT COMBINE OR THAT SPRAYER IS GOING TO PICK IT UP ON THEIR TIRES AND PUT IT RIGHT INTO THE FIELD WHERE THEY'RE GROWING THE FOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO, AND THOSE WAS FOUR HOUSES RIGHT THERE ON IN FRONT OF.
RIGHT OFF OF EAST QUAKER ROAD, RIGHT THERE BESIDE MY UNCLE MARK'S DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS GOING TO BUTT UP RIGHT TO IT.
THERE'S A ROAD ON ON OUR PROPERTY RIGHT THERE THAT BUTTS UP TO THEIR BACKYARD, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE RIGHT BESIDE THAT, AND LIKE THEY WERE SAYING, ABOUT 150 FOOT BUFFER.
THAT'S JUST , AND LIKE THEY WERE SAYING EARLIER ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
THIS DUMP IS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY SAID THE DEFINITION OF THAT WOULD BE.
SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING THAT.
SEEING NO ONE ELSE COMING FORWARD.
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I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE COMMISSIONERS.I MOVE TO FORWARD REQUEST SE-23-04 TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON : MORE INSIGHT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN INTO THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
IT IS GOING TO BE SENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
YES. THIS ITEM WILL GO TO THE BOARD NOW.
IT NOW HAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE BOARD WILL DECIDE ON THERE AND WILL ALSO INCLUDE A SUMMARY OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED AND THE BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AT THAT POINT.
THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ADVERTISED.
SO YOU SHOULD IF YOU'RE AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER OR IN THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, YOU WILL YOU'LL SEE THE NOTICE OF THE DATE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CPA-23-02. THIS IS THE REQUEST OF IT'S HIS LAND LLC TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 350A 44A FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL IN ORDER TO SUPPORT A COMPANION REZONING REQUEST FOR THE SAME PROPERTY.
THIS PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 14.8 ACRES IN SIZE AND IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE AT THE INTERSECTION WITH WEST QUAKER ROAD.
SO THIS IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE FROM THE PROPERTY THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED, AND THERE ARE THREE CASES TONIGHT ABOUT THIS, AND THIS FIRST CASE, AGAIN, IS JUST A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE TO DETERMINE IF THIS LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL USES RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO HERE IS THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED.
ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT AND THIS PROPERTY ARE ZONED RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL.
HERE IS THE PROPERTY IN RELATION TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT WITH TREES ON IT.
HERE IS A VIEW FROM THE INTERSECTION OF THE OF QUAKER ROAD AND PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE.
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FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.SOME BACKGROUND. THIS PROPERTY WAS HAS BEEN ZONED RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL SINCE THE COUNTY BLANKET ZONED THIS AREA FROM GENERAL AGRICULTURAL IN 1995 AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE COUNTY HAS INDICATED THIS AREA IS PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS DUE FOR REVIEW AND UPDATE.
THAT IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF THIS REQUEST FOR THE 14.8 ACRES.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE ADVISED THE APPLICANT HE WOULD NEED TO APPLY FOR A REZONING AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY AS HE ENVISIONS , AND THAT WE ALSO ADVISED HIM THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES NOT CURRENTLY SUPPORT A REZONING FOR COMMERCIAL USES THAT, BUT THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS DUE FOR AN UPDATE AND IT'S WITHIN HIS RIGHT TO REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMENTS ARE THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS NOT BENEFITED FROM A FULL SCALE REVIEW IN AT LEAST 15 YEARS HAS NOT BEEN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION REMAINS APPROPRIATE.
THEREFORE, IT IS REASONABLE TO TO RECONSIDER THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA AND TRAFFIC CORRIDOR BUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IS JUST FOR THIS PROPERTY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES DESCRIPTIONS FOR THE VARIOUS POSSIBLE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
THAT WAS MS. CANEPA CALLING BACK IN.
ALL RIGHT, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS FOR--WELL, IT PROVIDES DEFINITIONS FOR WHAT THESE DIFFERENT WORDS MEAN WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE. SO RESIDENTIAL, WHAT IT SAYS IS THESE THIS CATEGORY INCLUDES AREAS WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA WHERE SMALL LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ENCOURAGED.
PUBLIC WATER AND OR WASTEWATER FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND REQUIRED FOR SUCH DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY AND MUCH OF THE SURROUNDING MANY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT IS PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, INCLUDING SMALL, SMALLER, LOTS OF OF HOUSES, AND THIS APPLICANT THINKS THAT COMMERCIAL IS MORE APPROPRIATE HERE.
WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS ABOUT COMMERCIAL IS THAT THIS CATEGORY DESIGNATES AREAS WHERE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE OCCURRED OR AND WHERE FUTURE URBAN AND COMMERCIAL SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE ENCOURAGED.
PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES ARE GENERALLY AVAILABLE OR PLANNED FOR THESE AREAS.
SO THIS PROPERTY IS SITUATED AT AN IMPORTANT INTERSECTION FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, AS WE HAVE HEARD.
SO THESE ARE THESE ARE BASICALLY HIGH TRAFFIC DESIGNATIONS INDICATING THAT THERE IS HIGH TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD AND THEY'RE INTENDED TO MOVE TRAFFIC TO OUT OF THE AREA AND YEP, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BEST PLANNING PRACTICES FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED WHERE THERE IS HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME AND VISUAL EXPOSURE TO POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
SO THIS PROPERTY THEREFORE BASED ON THAT REASONING, APPEARS TO BE MORE CONDUCIVE TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAN IT DOES FOR RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE OF ITS OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPOSURE. NOW THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA.
THIS IS ABOUT HALF OF THE COUNTY'S LAND AREA AND THAT'S DESIGNATED FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO BASED ON RECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT RELATED TO THE UPCOMING UPDATES TO THE WATER AND SEWER WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, THIS AREA FALLS WITHIN AREAS PLANNED TO BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER LINES AT SUCH TIMES AS THEY EXTENDED BY TYPICALLY BY PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS SUPPORTS A COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION SINCE IT WOULD BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER IN THE FUTURE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT APPROVAL OF THIS CHANGE FROM
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RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL, AND THIS IS BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL BEING THE MOST APPROPRIATE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY BASED ON VEHICULAR ACCESS, FUTURE UTILITY PLANS AND CURRENT AND FUTURE ANTICIPATED LAND USES ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SIGN ON THE PROPERTY.
MR. STEWART, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? I'LL BE GLAD TO. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ABOUT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN CHANGE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO ANY DETAILS OF THE REZONING OR SPECIAL EXCEPTION UNLESS THIS IS APPROVED.
HI, HOW ARE YOU ALL DOING TONIGHT? FINE, HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.
FOR SOME OF Y'ALL THAT KNOW ME AND SOME OF Y'ALL DON'T.
MY MOM, AND DAD ARE BACK THERE, RONNIE AND LINDA.
WE'VE OPERATED NANNIE'S RESTAURANT NOW FOR 37 YEARS.
WELL IT'LL BE 37, MAY 25TH OF THIS YEAR.
I'VE GREW UP IN THIS COUNTY MY WHOLE LIFE.
MY KIDS HAVE GROWN UP IN THIS COUNTY, GRADUATED FROM SCHOOLS.
I'VE GOT A GRANDSON IN THIS COUNTY NOW, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DIVERSIFY, AND I WANT TO SPEND MY MONEY WHERE I LIVE. I WANT MY TAXES TO GO TO MY CHILDREN.
I WANT THE COUNTY RESIDENTS TO BENEFIT FROM MY TAXES.
THAT'S ALL I'VE REALLY GOT TO SAY.
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO THINK WE'VE BEEN.
WE TRY TO GIVE BACK TO THE COUNTY ALL THE TIME.
WE TRY TO GIVE TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO DIVERSIFY.
THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
YOU OWN THE PROPERTY? WE OWN IT. YES, SIR.
OKAY, YES, SIR. I HEARD DIFFERENT.
IT'S ME AND MY BROTHER AND ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, BUT HE ALSO EVERYBODY LIVES IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM, AND WE DID RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. THERE WAS JUDY HAMBY.
SHE'S PROVIDED SOMETHING THAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT'S TOO LONG TO SUMMARIZE.
THE THERE WAS ALSO A COMMENT FROM TAMI TUCKER, WHO LIVES AT ON WEST QUAKER ROAD, AND SHE WAS IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WOULD ASK THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ALFRED HART.
I LIVE IN 7418 WEST QUAKER, SO I'M THE PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT BESIDE THE PLACE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED FOR TRANSFERRED INTO THE COMMERCIAL LAND.
WE JUST MOVED IN THERE AND I BELIEVE RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING, AND THIS WILL POTENTIALLY BE MY FOREVER HOME, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A FOREVER HOME IF THERE WAS IF IT TURNED INTO COMMERCIAL LAND RIGHT BESIDE WHERE WE STAY, BECAUSE AS MY MOTHER SAID, I HAVE FOUR DAUGHTERS THAT STILL LIVE WITH ME.
EVEN YESTERDAY, SOMEBODY HIT THE DITCH RIGHT IN FRONT OF WHERE WE WERE AT BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS SO SLIM, AND TO MAKE IT COMMERCIAL ACCESSIBLE OR TO BUILD STORAGE OR WHATEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD, IT'S ONE, THAT'S GOING TO MESS THE PROPERTY VALUE UP OF THE HOUSE, AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE HOUSE IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S ASTRONOMICAL BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED, BUT IT WILL DECREASE IN VALUE IF WE EVER TRY TO SELL IT, BECAUSE WHO WOULD WANT TO LIVE BESIDE A STORAGE FACILITY? ALSO THE NOISE, SOMETIMES 2:00 AND 3:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU HEAR THE TRUCKS GOING BY NOW.
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SO TO ADD A STORAGE FACILITY ALONG WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND PEOPLE ARE I MEAN, IF YOU IF YOU REALLY SET UP IN THE WOODS AND PUT A CAMERA THERE TO SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH THERE NOW, AND WHEN YOU ADD COMMERCIAL PROPERTY RIGHT BESIDE IT, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO DOUBLE.PLUS HAVING A WHAT THE WASTE DOWN THE STREET.
YOU THINK WE HAVE ACCIDENTS NOW? YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE ONCE THINGS CHANGE.
I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THAT YOU WOULD NOT CONSIDER THIS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE; WE EAT AT THEIR RESTAURANT ALL THE TIME.
THEIR FOOD IS DELICIOUS, BUT RIGHT WHERE THAT'S AT, IT'S ACCIDENTS ALL THE TIME.
MATTER OF FACT, THERE'S NO LIGHTS RIGHT THERE NEITHER.
SO IF YOU ADD THAT STUFF THERE, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT TERRIBLE AND THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE IT APPEALING FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN THE AREA. SO IT'S KIND OF QUIET WHERE WE'RE AT, BUT IMAGINE MAKING IT COMMERCIAL, THE AMOUNT OF NOISE THAT WILL BE THERE. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.
MARIANNE WHITE, REPRESENTING THE SVAR, SOUTHSIDE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE MINI STORAGE.
IT'S NOTHING AGAINST THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
WE ALL LOVE NANNIE'S, BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO CREATE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
SEVERAL PEOPLE THIS EVENING HAS TALKED ABOUT TRAILERS AND BOATS AND CAMPERS BEING PULLED.
THE ROAD IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO TURN THOSE VEHICLES INTO A MINI STORAGE BUILDING.
YOU CAN'T HARDLY SEE NOW WHEN YOU COME UP THE ROAD TO TURN ONTO 156.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE BUILT THEIR BEAUTIFUL HOME NEAR HERE.
IF THEY HAD KNOWN THAT, I'M SURE YOU WOULD HAVE GONE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
WE'RE GLAD YOU CHOSE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THE REALTORS ARE HERE TO LOOK AFTER THE HOME RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS AND PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WHILE WE WISH THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WELL, IT'S JUST NOT A PLACE TO PUT ANOTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND COMMERCIAL SITE.
I LIVE AT 7180 WEST QUAKER ROAD, AND I PROVIDED YOU WITH COMMENTS.
ONE THING THAT IS PEOPLE ARE FORGETTING RIGHT AT 150 ON 156, THERE'S A CURVE RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION OF WEST QUAKER AND EAST QUAKER.
THAT'S AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN, AND SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT, AND ALSO, THIS IS THEY WANT TO HAVE MINI STORAGE, OUTDOOR BOAT AND RV STORAGE AND OFFICE RETAIL SPACE AND POTENTIALLY A RESTAURANT USE.
THAT'S A LOT OF BUILDING FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS FOR 14 ACRES, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO OBSERVE AN EYESORE OF MINI STORAGES AND BOATS, TAKE A DRIVE ON 106 AND NEW KENT COUNTY. AND WHEN YOU DRIVE OVER THERE, LOOK AT THE BOATS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME AND YOU CAN SEE THE TREES GROWING UP AROUND THEM.
SO I DON'T THINK WE WANT THAT AT THE END OF WEST QUAKER ROAD.
I LIVE AT 8530 BOW BRIDGE ROAD.
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SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN THE HAMBYS ARE, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE PRESENCE OF THE OWNERS AND I APPRECIATE THEIR RESTAURANT AS WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA ABOUT DIVERSIFICATION.HOWEVER, I'VE LIVED ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA FOR 36 YEARS.
JUST WEST QUAKER ROAD ALONE, NOT EVEN SPEAKING TO EAST QUAKER ROAD, BUT I ALSO SERVE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ADVERTISE FREELY IS SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS AND THE SAFETY ISSUE ON WEST QUAKER ROAD AS WELL AS EAST, I PRESUME WAS SATISFIED BACK PROBABLY SOME 14 OR 15 YEARS AGO WHEN A BOY SCOUT EAGLE SCOUT MANAGED TO TAKE PICTURES OF A SCHOOL BUS AND A TRACTOR TRAILER MEETING ON THE SAME ROAD.
SO THERE'S NO SHOULDERS THERE.
SO WHAT I THINK IS ABOUT THIS IS ON THE PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE SIDE.
IF WE ADD THIS ACCOMMODATION TO IT, A MINI STORAGE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE ATTRACTION.
I THINK THAT PART IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BUT THAT ATTRACTION IS GOING TO CAUSE HEADS TO TURN.
THERE'LL BE MORE MISHAPS WITH TRAFFIC.
IF YOU COME IN ON THE WEST QUAKER ROAD SIDE, WE HAVE A NEIGHBOR WITH A VERY LARGE PULL BEHIND CAMPER, AND WHEN HE IS ON THE ROAD, NOBODY ELSE CAN PASS. I'VE BEEN ON IT WITH A HAYBINE AND A TRACTOR.
I'M IN THE DITCH JUST TRYING TO GET HIM TO BE ABLE TO GET BY.
THE ENFORCEMENT IS VERY DIFFICULT.
THE SAME THING ON EAST QUAKER ROAD SIDE.
I AM OPPOSED TO THIS BECOMING A MINI STORAGE, A COMMERCIALIZED AREA, MANNY'S TRAILER COURT ON THE WAY OUT OF PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE TOWARDS 460 IS THE LAST COMMERCIAL SPOT WE HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
I ADMIT IT. I'M BOY SCOUT, 59 YEARS, AND I LIKE IT, AND I WOULD REALLY PREFER TO SEE THAT WAY.
IF WE CAN MAKE SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, WE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE, BUT I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH CONSTRICTION OF SIGHT AND TOO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR GREATER ACCIDENTS.
I LIVE AT 7222 WEST QUAKER ROAD, AND NOBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM IN THAT BOTTOM AND THE STATE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM.
I'VE SEEN THE WATER UP TO YOUR WAIST AND IN THAT BOTTOM BEFORE AND I KNOW IN 44 YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A DOZEN TIMES THE WATER.
THEY HAD TO PUT A POLICE OFFICER AT EACH END OF WEST QUAKER TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE, AND I THINK IT'S A BAD PLACE FOR ANY KIND OF BUSINESS IN THAT BOTTOM OR RESIDENTIAL.
IN THAT BOTTOM UNTIL THEY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE IN THAT BOTTOM.
THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.
JAMES GLAZIER AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
NEITHER CAN GO EITHER WAY ON IT, BUT EVERYBODY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT NOTICE POSTED.
I GOT THIS LETTER A WEEK AND A HALF AGO FROM [INAUDIBLE].
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A WEEK AND A HALF NOTICE IS NOT ENOUGH NOTICE.A WEEK AND A HALF IS NOT ENOUGH.
SO THAT'S MY GRIPE ABOUT THIS.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH NOTICE AND NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE BEING NOTIFIED.
THE SURROUNDING LANDOWNERS IS NOT ENOUGH.
EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE COMING FORWARD.
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY, GUYS . DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY.
TIM JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IN ADDITION TO THE STATEMENT FROM MS. HAMBY, THERE WAS ALSO SOMETHING RECEIVED FROM SOMEONE NAMED TONYA THAT EXPRESSED OPPOSITION.
DID SHE SPEAK? I DIDN'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE HER CONCERNS WERE VOICED.
I CAN READ IT. TAMI TUCKER, SHE LIVES AT 7111 WEST QUAKER ROAD, AND SO WE DID NOT HEAR FROM HER.
IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, SHE SAID, I RECENTLY SAW AND THIS WAS SENT ON APRIL 24TH.
I WAS TOLD THAT IN ADDITION TO THE COUNTY WANTING TO ADD A DUMP STATION TO EAST QUAKER AND 156, THERE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE WEST QUAKER AND 156 FROM RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL TO BUSINESS SO THAT THEY CAN PUT IN STORAGE UNITS AND EVENTUALLY OFFICE SPACE AND RESTAURANT.
WE WANT OUR COUNTY TO REMAIN AS SUCH A RURAL COUNTY.
THE ADDITION THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES TAKE AWAY, I THINK IT WAS.
IN ADDITION, THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES TAKE AWAY FROM THE RURAL COUNTY WE LOVE AND IN MY OPINION, ONLY ENCOURAGES THOSE WHO DO NOT THOSE WHO OFTEN DO NOT HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS TO COME OUT INTO THE COUNTY.
WE ARE IN PG FOR A REASON AND THAT IS THE RURAL, SCENIC COUNTRY LIVING THAT WE LOVE.
PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND DENY THESE REQUESTS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
OKAY, GUYS. SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING .
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MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS I'M SURE IT'S OBVIOUS.THIS IS VERY, VERY CONCERNING ISSUE.
WE WANT ADVANCEMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS STRICTLY FROM A LEGAL ASPECT OF IT.
THE APPROVAL METHODS THAT WE WOULD GENERALLY APPROVE THIS TYPE OF THING IS IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF WHICH IT IS, BUT IT ALSO IS EXPECTED TO BENEFIT THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
PERSONALLY, I'M CONCERNED OF A SAFETY RISK FOR THE COMMUNITY.
HEARING THE MULTIPLE CONCERNS OF DEATHS, FATALITY ACCIDENTS IN THE AREA.
UNFORTUNATELY, AS MUCH AS I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS MOTION, I JUST FEEL THAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WHEN YOU BALANCE THE BENEFIT VERSUS THE RISK OF THIS SITUATION, MADAM CHAIR, IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST RZ-23-02 TO THE BOARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS THAT THERE IS A GENUINE CONCERN WITH IT BEING A TRUE BENEFIT TO WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN WEIGHING THE RISK OF THE SAFETY FOR THE CITIZENS.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
OKAY, SO THAT REQUEST HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE BOARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
THAT WILL THAT SHOULD BE GOING FORWARD AT THE MAY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN LATE MAY.
THE DATE WILL BE ADVERTISED AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DATES ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, BUT THIS WILL BE THE LATER MEETING IN MAY IS WHAT IT AUTOMATICALLY WOULD BE SCHEDULED FOR, AND WE'LL ADVERTISE JUST LIKE WE DID FOR THIS.
SO GIVEN THAT YOU RECOMMEND DENIAL ON A FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE FOR COMMERCIAL USES IN THIS AREA.
AS STAFF, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU POSTPONE THE REZONING AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST HERE UNTIL A FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION DATE TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU GAVE, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND AT LEAST THE JUNE DATE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THAT RECOMMENDATION IN MAY.
SO DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT? YES. SO THE REZONING REQUEST RZ-23-02 AND THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
CAN WE DO THEM TOGETHER? YES, YOU CAN DO IT IN ONE MOTION.
CAN I GET A MOTION THAT IT IS DELAYED DEFERRED UNTIL AFTER THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? MOVE.
CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND CALL THE ROLL.
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THANK YOU. OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS REZONING RZ-23-03.MADAM VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
SIR, COULD YOU REMOVE YOUR MASK? I CAN HARDLY UNDERSTAND YOU.
I WILL PRESENT THE REZONING APPLICATION RZ-23-03. THIS IS THE REQUEST OF ROSLYN FARM CORPORATION TO CONDITIONALLY REZONE APPROXIMATELY 159 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL R-A , AND LIMITED RESIDENTIAL R-2 ZONING DISTRICTS TO GENERAL INDUSTRIAL M-2 ZONING DISTRICT.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REZONING IS TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF REEVES ROAD, IN BETWEEN THE INTERCHANGES FOR INTERSTATE 95 AND INTERSTATE 295, AND IS.
IDENTIFIED BY SEVEN TAX MAP NUMBERS: 330(0A)00-15-0, 016-A, 018-0, 019-0, 020-0, 0-21-0 AND 024-A.
THE OVERALL PLANS FOR THE PROJECT EXTENDS ACROSS THE COUNTY LINE INTO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL LAND USES.
THE SLIDE THAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS THE LOCATION MAP OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH SHOWS THE PROPERTY LIES IN BETWEEN I-95 INTERCHANGE AND INTERSTATE 295 AND THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.
THE NEXT MAP SHOWS THE ZONING MAP OF THE AREA.
THE LIGHT YELLOW SHADED AREA IS R-A RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL.
THE ORANGE SHADED AREA IS R-2 LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND THE LIGHT GRAY COLOR IS LIMITED INDUSTRIAL WITH THE DARK GRAY COLOR BEING M-2 GENERAL INDUSTRIAL.
THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE AREA IN QUESTION.
THE TAN ORANGE SHADED AREA SHOWS THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS THAT AREA DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL LAND USES.
IT ALSO SHOWS THE AREAS THAT'S IN PURPLE WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE IN THE AREA THAT'S IN RED FOR BUSINESS.
THIS IS SOME BACKGROUND AND A SUMMARY OF THIS ITEM.
THE APPLICANT WISHES TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 159.64 ACRES FROM SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL USES.
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I-295. THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS SUBMITTED WITH THE REZONING APPLICATION SHOWS FIVE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS RANGING IN SIZE FROM 59,880FT² TO 868,000FT².THE PROPOSED PROJECT EXTENDS ACROSS THE COUNTY LINE INTO THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
THE PLAN SHOWS TWO OF THE FIVE BUILDINGS LOCATED ON THE LAND WILL BE ACTUALLY SITUATED IN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG. THE PROJECTED CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS OVER $100 MILLION IN THE ESTIMATED JOB CREATION IS CLOSE TO 1700.
IN THE YEAR 2020, THE APPLICANT RECEIVED A REZONING APPROVAL FROM THE CITY OF PETERSBURG FOR TWO PARCELS OF LAND, WHICH TOTALS 45.75 ACRES.
THE PARCELS WERE REZONED FROM B-2 GENERAL BUSINESS TO M-1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND ARE INCLUDED AS A PART OF THE [INAUDIBLE] AS A PART OF THE PROJECT.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN WHICH SHOWS THE FIVE PLANNED USES.
ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF RIVES ROAD, THE LARGER BUILDING IS THAT'S ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT'S IN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, AND ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, THAT FIRST LEFT BUILDING THAT'S ALSO WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY IS FOR SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL USE.
TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND AND INTERSTATE I-295 TO THE NORTH IS VACANT AND TO THE SOUTH IS INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY, WHICH IS BEING USED BY A COMPANY CALLED QUALITY PROPERTIES.
EXPECTED IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED USES ON ADJACENT ROADWAYS INCLUDES ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON RIVES ROAD.
THE APPLICANT PREPARED A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND THE PROPOSED LAND USE WOULD GENERATE OVER 3000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
SO IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, THE TRAFFIC STUDY RECOMMENDED THE FOLLOWING TURN LANES TO BE INSTALLED TO CONSTRUCT AN EASTBOUND TURN LANE WITH A 200 FOOT STORAGE CAPACITY AND TO CONSTRUCT AN EASTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE WITH A 200 FOOT STORAGE CAPACITY. THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WESTBOUND TURN LANE WITH A 200 FOOT STORAGE CAPACITY AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE WITH THE SAME STORAGE CAPACITY , AND THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED TO CONSTRUCT A NORTHBOUND THROUGH THROUGH RIGHT LANE AND TO CONSTRUCT A SOUTH SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE WITH A 200 FOOT STORAGE CAPACITY AND TO CONSTRUCT A SOUTHBOUND THROUGH RIGHT LANE.
THE OTHER IMPACT WITH THIS PROJECT WILL BE NOISE, BUT THE NOISE WILL VARY BY TRAFFIC FLOW.
THE TIME OF DAY AND AND BY THE TYPE OF INDUSTRY THAT ACTUALLY LOCATES THERE.
MITIGATION TO NOISE WOULD BE THE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCE OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND ANY BUFFERING OR TREES THAT ARE LEFT ON THE PROPERTY TO BUFFER THE PROJECT.
THERE WILL ALSO BE A VISUAL IMPACT.
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WHICH WILL VARY BY THE INDUSTRIAL USES.THE MITIGATION IS LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING, WHICH ARE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE SITE PLAN.
THE PROPOSED USE APPEARS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING SURROUNDING LAND USES IN THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IDEALLY BETWEEN TWO MAJOR INTERSTATES, HIGHWAY I-95 AND I-295.
THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT AND LAND USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS CALL FOR INDUSTRIAL USES IN THIS AREA.
THE SITE ADJOINS OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALSO ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL LAND USES.
PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER WILL COME FROM THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
APPROVALS REQUIRED PRIOR TO PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION WILL INCLUDE A SITE PLAN BUILDING, ZONING AND LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY, DEQ APPROVAL AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR ANY WETLANDS.
THE OFFICE RECEIVED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND A LETTER OF CONCERN FROM A PROPERTY OWNER THAT RESIDES ON RIVES ROAD, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
THE ADDRESS OF THE RESIDENT IS 3219 RIVES ROAD, AND I BELIEVE Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE STATEMENT THAT SHE SENT THE OFFICE.
SHE'S HERE AND I THINK SHE WILL SPEAK LATER.
OTHER STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS CAME FROM VDOT.
BASICALLY THEY REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND THEY APPROVED THE STUDY WITH THE RECOMMENDED TURN LANES TO BE CONSTRUCTED, AND PUBLIC UTILITIES MADE A STATEMENT JUST STATING THE FACT THAT THE PROJECT WILL HAVE TO BE SERVED PUBLIC WATER BY THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
THE APPLICANT VOLUNTARILY PROFFERED CONDITIONS TO PROHIBIT THE LAND USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTIES, I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE USES, BUT BASICALLY THE APPLICANT PROFFERED THAT THE LAND CANNOT BE USED EVER FOR PETROLEUM STORAGE, SEWER MILLS, LANDFILL, TREE STUMPS LANDFILLS, AND SO ON.
PROFFERED CONDITIONS ALSO, HE GAVE A PROFFER FOR LIGHTING, STATING.
STATING THAT LIGHTING WILL BE INSIDE THE BUILDINGS IN DARK LIGHTING PACKAGES.
LIGHTING INSTALLED ON THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DIRECTED DOWNWARD AND INWARD TO THE SITE TO AVOID CASTING, LIGHTING OR ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR INTO THE NIGHT SKY.
HE ALSO PROFFERED THAT THE ACCESS POINT WILL BE USED, AS INDICATED ON THE EXHIBIT A AND AS APPROVED DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
HE ALSO PROFFERED TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY, MEANING THAT HE HAS TO BUILD THE TURN LANES.
THE RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON THE FOLLOWING.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND SURROUNDING LAND USES A REZONING FROM R-A TO M-2 AND R-2/R-A TO M2 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PRINCE GEORGE LOUIS COUNTY ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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THERE ARE NO MAJOR CONCERNS FROM OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS OR OUTSIDE AGENCY.A SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED WHICH WILL ADDRESS ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL, STORMWATER RUNOFF, BUFFERING, LANDSCAPING, PARKING AND OUTDOOR LIGHTING CONCERNS.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO MAJOR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE COMMUNITY PRIOR TO PUBLISHING THE STAFF REPORT AND A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
LIKE I STATED, WAS RECEIVED RECENTLY FROM THE CITY MANAGER OF PETERSBURG AND THIS AFTERNOON A LETTER WAS RECEIVED FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENT.
AND THE LAST REASON FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL IS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED SEVERAL CONDITIONS WITH STAFF FINDS ACCEPTABLE TO THE OFFICE, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IN THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO TO MAKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS NICHOLAS WALKER. I'M WITH ROSALYN FARM CORPORATION.
WE ARE THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROPERTY. WE ARE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
WITH ME, I HAVE MAJESTIC REALTY GROUP, WHICH IS THE GROUP THAT WILL BE DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY ALONG WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PORT OF VIRGINIA WHO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THE PROPOSAL AS MR. GREEN STATED ALSO AFTER WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. GREEN AND AFTER THE WORK SESSION ON MONDAY, WE HAVE AGREED TO ALSO TAKE OUT THE MEAT, POULTRY AND FISH PROCESSING USE THAT WAS CONCERNED ALONG WITH THE DREDGE MATERIAL DISPOSAL SITE.
WE WILL PROFFER THOSE CONDITIONS, WE WILL PROFFER THOSE.
THE PROPERTY WILL NOT BE USED FOR THAT, THOSE USES AS WELL.
OKAY, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
GOOD EVENING. I'M SHIRLEY GIVENS, AND SINCE I'M NOT A PUBLIC SPEAKER, I'M NOT USED TO SPEAKING.
OKAY, ALL RIGHT, I LIVE AT 3219 RIVES ROAD.
I ALSO OWN THE PROPERTY AT 3301 REEVES ROAD, RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
THE HOUSE THAT WAS ON THAT LOT WAS WHERE I GREW UP.
THE FARMLAND ACQUIRED BY ROSALYN FARM CORPORATION WAS ONCE OWNED BY MY GRANDFATHER, ERNEST HARRISON, BUT AFTER HIS DEATH IN THE 1970S, FOR SOME REASON, THE PROPERTY DID NOT TRANSFER TO ANY OF HIS NUMEROUS DESCENDANTS.
THE ELDERS PASSED AWAY IN THE PROPERTY, HAS CHANGED HANDS TO OTHER PERSONS OTHER THAN FAMILY FOR AT LEAST TWO OF THEM, BUT I'M STILL THERE, ALONG WITH MY COUSIN ANGIE HILL, WHO IS HERE ALSO.
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UM, WHO RESIDES AT 3315 RIVES ROAD.IT'S A LEGACY, AND I HAD HIGH HOPES OF LEAVING MY THREE CHILDREN, LEAVING IT TO MY THREE CHILDREN, AND HOPEFULLY TO PASS IT ON TO MY TWO GRANDCHILDREN, WHICH MY GRANDFATHER FORTUNATELY, UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T GET TO DO.
I HAD HIGH HOPES TO LEAVE LIVE MY FINAL YEARS AT 3219 RIVES ROAD, AS IT APPEARS CURRENTLY.
I LOVE PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, A WELCOMING COMMUNITY, A WELCOMING COMMUNITY EMBRACING ITS RURAL CHARACTER, END QUOTE, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR RURAL PRINCE GEORGE HOMES, FARMLANDS AND FORESTS ARE DISAPPEARING AND BEING REPLACED BY MASSIVE BOXLIKE BUILDINGS LIKE THE ONES OFF OF BULL HILL ROAD, TRUCK STOPS, STORES, FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS, SERVICE STATIONS AND NEW BOHEMIA AND ON SOUTH CRATER ROAD AND A SOLAR PANEL AND SOLAR PANELS ON RIVES ROAD.
THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE OF HEAVY TRAFFIC ON REEVES ROAD [MUMBLING] AN ISSUE THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, AND THERE'VE ALSO BEEN ACCIDENTS ON RIVES ROAD.
THROUGH THE YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE, I PRAY THAT THE POWERS THAT BE OF ROSALYN FARMS AND THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER THE RESIDENTS OF REEVES ROAD WHO WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE REZONING OF THE LAND ON BOTH SIDES OF REEVES ROAD, BETWEEN I-95 AND I-295 TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL.
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.
I HAVE A HOME ON RIVES RD, JUST BEFORE YOU GET I-95, BETWEEN 95 AND 295.
I WENT TO SERVICE AND CAME OUT, AND GOT MARRIED, AND THAT WAS ALMOST 90 YEARS AGO, AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PIECES OF PROPERTY WHERE [INAUDIBLE] MY STEPFATHER HAD.
LET ME HAVE, WHEN I GOT MARRIED.
THAT WAS NINETY OR SO YEARS AGO.
SO SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN GROWING IN THAT LITTLE CORNER BETWEEN 95 AND 295 , AND HAD PEOPLE TO LIVE UP THERE, AND GOOD FAMILY, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWN THERE.
IT'S ABOUT THREE HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 90 SOME YEARS.
SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DOES THIS MAP SHOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AWAY WITH THAT SPOT OF LAND? THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION.
WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR NINETY OR SOME YEARS, AND WHEN THEY WENT TO THE PLACE IT WASN'T NOTHING BUT A LITTLE PIECE OF WOOD, [INAUDIBLE] LIVE IN AND LIVE THERE, AND SINCE THAT TIME, A WHOLE LOT OF BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN COMING UP AROUND LATELY BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE FAMILIES THAT ARE LIVING THERE NOW.
WHAT'S GOING ON WILL CHANGE THAT.
WE'VE BEEN DOWN FOR NEARLY 100 YEARS, AND EVEN IF YOU CHANGE. WHAT? WHAT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION.
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YOU DON'T. YES.TELL THEM. GET OUT. MOVE! WE GOT A RIGHT TO MOVE YOU FROM YOUR HOME AFTER 90 SOMETHING YEARS? THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION? THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
YES, SIR. YES, SIR, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I GOT THIS MAP AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ACCORDING TO THAT MAP, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS ANGELA HILL, AND THAT'S MY FATHER.
JUST REITERATING WHAT HE SAID.
HE'S BUILT THAT HOUSE OVER 80, 90 YEARS AGO NOW.
HE BUILT ANOTHER ONE IN 2016 THAT I CURRENTLY RESIDE IN.
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT STRETCH OF ROAD? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT CLEAR.
I'M ON THAT ROAD NOW AND THE TRAFFIC IS BAD.
IF Y'ALL BUILD ALL THIS STUFF, THE TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE.
SOMETIMES IT TAKES ME TEN MINUTES TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.
IF Y'ALL GOING TO ADD ALL THIS STUFF.
WHAT ABOUT BEING A COUNTRY AND THE BEAUTY AND THE GREENERY? Y'ALL ADDING ALL THIS STUFF FOR WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER? THESE OUTSIDE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE AROUND HERE AND YOU'RE DOING STUFF TO HARM US? IT'S NOT FAIR.
THANK YOU. WE PAY TAXES TOO, AND SHOULD HAVE A SAY.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BRANDY HAMMOND, SHIRLEY GIVENS' DAUGHTER.
I DO NOT LIVE IN PRINCE GEORGE.
HOWEVER, ONE DAY I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO RETIRE HERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S GOING NOW, I DON'T SEE THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.
IF INDUSTRY TAKES OVER THE AREA AROUND, I'M PRETTY SURE MORE THAN LIKELY THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BUY US OUT EVENTUALLY, AND I WOULD HATE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN TO MY MOM, BUT JUST THE HISTORY I REMEMBER LIVING THERE BEFORE 295 WAS BUILT.
THERE WAS LITTLE TO NO TRAFFIC.
MY SIBLINGS AND I USED TO PLAY A GAME WHERE WE WOULD RUN WHEN A CAR WOULD COME.
WHEN 295 WAS BUILT, THE GAME GOT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE CARS WERE COMING MORE CONSTANTLY OR PEOPLE WERE COMING TO BACK UP INTO OUR YARD AND TURN AROUND AND GO BACK TO 95, AND BUT IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE MY MOM HAD TO MOVE THE MAILBOX FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE SAME SIDE BECAUSE WE COULDN'T CROSS THE STREET TO GET THE MAIL ANYMORE, AND I ALSO REMEMBER MY MOM FIGHTING TO HAVE THAT AREA NOT ANNEXED BY PETERSBURG.
SO IT SEEMS NOW PETERSBURG HAS AGREED TO BUILD UP THE LAND OR BE IN CONJUNCTION, EXCUSE ME, WITH PRINCE GEORGE, WHICH I DIDN'T THINK WOULD HAPPEN, BUT THE RECENT LIFE WITH THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR DOWN THE STREET WITH TYSON'S, THEIR CONSTANT TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING THROUGH THE AREA, THE SPEED LIMIT IS SUPPOSED TO BE 45, BUT IF YOU COME FROM 295 AREA, THEY ARE SPEEDING AROUND THAT CORNER, AND IT'S HARD TO SEE WITH THE TREES IN THE WAY TO GET OUT.
SO LIKE ANGIE SAYS, IT MIGHT TAKE TEN MINUTES TO GET OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH HER BEING CLOSER TO 295 BRIDGE BECAUSE THEY'RE ZOOMING AROUND THE CORNER, EVEN THE TRAFFIC ON THE BRIDGE OF 95 TO TRY TO CROSS OVER AND COME TOWARDS MY MOTHER'S HOUSE FROM GOING SOUTHBOUND 95.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN STOP. THEY KEPT GOING.
SO THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE WORSE THAN JUST YOU NEEDING TURN LANES.
MORE THAN LIKELY, IT'S GOING TO NEED TO EXTEND THE WHOLE ROAD MORE THAN LIKELY.
RECENTLY, THERE WAS A HISTORIC MARKER THAT WAS PUT UP TO SAY THAT THE AREA IS A CIVIL WAR AREA.
THERE WERE FORTS THAT WERE ALL AROUND IN THAT AREA.
SO IF YOU BUILD THIS PROPERTY, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE HISTORIC FACTOR OF THE LAND AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW THIS INDUSTRY IS GOING TO AFFECT THE WATER.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW THE RAINWATER AND ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S SUPPOSEDLY A WATERSHED AREA, LIKE WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE WATERSHED AREA IF THEY BUILD UP RIGHT THERE, BUT THE APPEAL OF PRINCE GEORGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN COUNTRY, EXCUSE ME, COUNTRY LIVING, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO, AND IF THIS GETS BUILT, I WON'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY.
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SO IT'S JUST A SHAME TO SEE AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FORWARD REQUEST RZ-23-03 TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE PROFFERED CONDITIONS AND AND THE REASON IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CURRENT SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL HAVE COMMUNICATIONS AND TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
[COMMUNICATIONS]
THE ACTIONS OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS THIS PAST MONDAY.THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS APPROVED A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A DOG PRIVATE DOG BOARDING PLACE TO KEEP FIVE DOGS ON A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT MONTH.
THERE WILL NOT BE A MEETING NEXT MONTH.
THERE'S NO CASES CURRENTLY SCHEDULED OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
THERE WILL NOT BE A MEETING NEXT MONTH.
YOU HAVE A RECAP IN YOUR PACKET.
I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND JOG MY OWN MEMORY.
THEY DID ON MARCH 28TH RECOGNIZE IRMA BROWN AND FLOYD BROWN SENIOR FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.
MR. BROWN WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MANY DECADES AND MRS. BROWN MRS BROWN AS WELL, ALSO SERVED THE COUNTY ON THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
SO THOSE WERE THEY WERE RECOGNIZED AT THAT MEETING.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALSO AT THAT MEETING HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE REZONING REQUEST OF HB PROPERTY ASSOCIATES TO CONDITIONALLY REZONE THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 95 FROM THE LAST PROPERTY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT WAS FOR THE TRACTOR TRAILER PARKING FOR E-COMMERCE FULFILLMENT.
THEY APPOINTED MR. WAYMACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO WE HOPE TO WELCOME HIM NEXT MONTH AT THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND THEN AT THE BOARD'S MEETING ON THIS PAST TUESDAY, THEY APPROVED THE REZONING REQUEST FOR BULL HILL ROAD AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE CONDITIONS THERE.
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DAYCARE ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY, ALL OF WHICH YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON.FINALLY, NEXT MONTH, YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO ONE NEW CASE, ONE NEW REZONING CASE, AND I THINK THAT'S REGARDING THE TRAVEL CENTER ON SOUTH KOREA ROAD, AND WE'LL ADDRESS THE ACTIONS OF TONIGHT AND GO FROM THERE.
THAT IS WHAT I HAVE PREPARED FOR YOU FOR COMMUNICATIONS FROM STAFF.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THERE A MEETING OR SOMETHING I'VE READ SOMEWHERE ABOUT WITH THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT COMING UP.
THE PLANNING MEETING FOR THE SIX YEAR PLAN, AND THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE WHOLE STATE, AND PRINCE GEORGE HAS SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. ALL RIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SECOND. SECOND. CALL THE ROLL.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.