[CALL TO ORDER]
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I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR APRIL THE 25TH.
FIRST THING ON IT WOULD BE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
. OKAY. IF WE WOULD MRS WAYMACK WILL GIVE US OUR INVOCATION.
[INVOCATION]
OUR MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER.WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU CHOSE TO BESTOW ON US.
THANK YOU FOR SPARING US FROM THE BAD WEATHER JUST PAST.
THANK YOU THAT WE ARE BLESSED WITH SO MANY WONDERFUL CITIZENS.
AND THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY EXCELLENT EMPLOYEES.
THANK YOU FOR THE REPRIEVE FROM THE VIRUS THAT HAS BEEN PLAGUING US.
WE PRAY FOR YOUR GUIDANCE IN THE MONTHS TO COME, DEAR LORD.
ALL THESE THINGS WE ASK IN YOUR HOLY NAME.
AMEN. MR WEBB IN THE PLEDGE, PLEASE.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
FIRST THING WE HAVE IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.ANYBODY THAT'S HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
DO WE HAVE FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP? MRS KNOTT? NO, SIR.
GOOD EVENING. SO I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AGAIN.
THE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
I'M SORRY. I SHOULD KNOW THAT.
8711 2ND COURT DISPUTANTA 23842.
THIS YEAR, THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE DENIED US ACCESS TO THE COMPLETE SALES DATA WHICH WAS PROVIDED TO US DURING THE PREVIOUS TWO ASSESSMENTS EACH YEAR, AT LEAST TO MY MEMORY, THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE DID NOT PROVIDE US WITH ADEQUATE INFORMATION OF COMPARABLE SOLD PROPERTIES TO ALLOW US TO CONDUCT OUR OWN COMPARISON OF EQUITABLE PROPERTY SALES.
BUT NOW THE RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATABASE LIKE WE USED TO PRIOR TO THIS SWITCH.
THE VISION COMPUTER SYSTEM IS EITHER NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL OR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE STAFF IS NOT FULLY TRAINED TO USE ALL OF ITS CAPABILITIES AND POTENTIALS THAT OTHER COUNTIES APPARENTLY ARE ABLE AND BRAGGING ABOUT.
ALL IN ALL, THE RESIDENTS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE LEAST BENEFITING FROM THE SWITCH.
TRIPLE TIME WE PAY FOR THE DATABASE, GET NO BENEFITS OR ABILITY TO USE IT, AND WE ARE THE ONE ON THE HOOK FOR THE HIGHER TAXES THAT WE WILL HAVE TO PAY WHILE STILL TAKING OUR TIME TO APPEAL THOSE ASSESSMENTS SPECIFICALLY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE APPARENTLY APPLIED A FLAT 10% INCREASE OF VALUES TO ALL PROPERTIES SOLD.
THE METHODOLOGY RESULTS IN A SKEWED MARKET INTERPRETATION.
SPECIFICALLY, THIS METHODOLOGY ON ONE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD RESULTED IN ONE PROPERTY BEING ASSESSED HIGHER THAN THE SOLD PRICE TO THE TUNE OF $38,000.
ONE ACTUAL ASSESSMENT ONE ACTUAL PROPERTY SOLD FOR OVER $400,000 BUT WAS ASSESSED AT ABOUT $300,000, $119,000 BELOW MARKET SOLD VALUE.
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THAT WAS THE ASSESSMENT.SO YOU'RE ALL LONG STANDING MANTRA AT THESE MEETINGS IS ALWAYS DON'T POINT FINGERS AT US.
WE'RE NOT THE ONES SETTING THE PRICE.
THE MARKET IS SETTING THE PRICE.
AND THESE NUMBERS AND THESE FACTS SHOULD DISTURB YOU AND SHOULD FINALLY BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS METHODOLOGY AND THIS APPROACH OF THE ASSESSMENTS OFFICE NOT BEING LOGICAL, MEANINGFUL, AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT IT YEAR AND A YEAR BECAUSE THE EXPLANATIONS DON'T MAKE SENSE AND THE PROCESS IS SUPER BURDENSOME.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD TONIGHT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
ANYONE WITH FURTHER COMMENTS FOR THE BOARD.
HEARING NONE, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
NEXT, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.WE ADOPT THE AGENDA AS AS PRINTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BROWN, A SECOND BY MS. WAYMACK ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
NEXT IS TO ORDER OF CONSENSUS.
[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON ORDER CONSENSUS ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.
THANK YOU. MISS WAYMACK HAS SECOND.
SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
[SUPERVISORS’ COMMENTS]
WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, SO WE'LL GO INTO SUPERVISORS COMMENTS.IT'S TIME NOW FOR THE SUPERVISORS TO MAKE COMMENTS, ANYTHING THEY FEEL APPROPRIATE.
WE HAVE SEVERAL NEW DISEASES BROUGHT TO US BY TICKS, AND SOME OF THEM ARE VERY SERIOUS.
THE TICK IS ON THERE FOR 26 HOURS.
THEN YOU HAVE THE DISEASE TRANSMITTED, SO YOU HAVE TO FIND THEM EARLY SO THAT YOU DON'T INCUR A DISEASE WHICH CAN BE VERY DEADLY IN SOME CASES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WAYMACK. MR. BROWN, ANY COMMENTS, SIR? THE ONLY THING I HAVE TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO WELCOME MR. MEEKS BACK WITH US TONIGHT.
IT'S DEFINITELY A PLEASURE TO HAVE HIM HERE.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOU SITTING IN WITH US TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, SIR. MR. WEBB, I'LL SAY THE SAME THING MR. BROWN JUST SAID. WELCOME BACK.
YES, MR. MEEKS IS A WELCOME SIGHT TO SEE, NO DOUBT ABOUT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER OTHER THAN MS. WAYMACK COMMENTS WERE VERY WELL STATED.
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR’S COMMENTS]
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS.ANYTHING, SIR? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS A REMINDER, AS OF MAY 5TH, EARLY VOTING FOR THE PRIMARY SEASON BEGINS.
YOU CAN VOTE EARLY AT THE PRINCE GEORGE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:30 A.M.
ON THURSDAY, FORT LEE WILL HAVE THEIR OFFICIAL RE DESIGNATE CEREMONY CHANGING THE NAME FROM FORT LEE TO FORT GREG ADAMS. THE COUNTY SPRING NEWSLETTERS HAVE BEGUN DISTRIBUTION TO RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE MAIL THIS WEEK, AND THE SELF-SERVICE KAYAK STATION AT APPOMATTOX PARK IS NOW OPEN FOR RENTALS.
INCLUDES A KAYAK, A PADDLE AND A LIFE JACKET.
[REPORTS]
WE'RE MOVING ON.WE HAVE THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT.
GOOD EVENING, MISTER CHAIRMAN.
WE'LL WAIT FOR THE PROJECTOR TO COME UP.
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WILL TAKE JUST ANOTHER MOMENT.OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE ON TARGET AS OF MARCH 31ST.
WE WERE 51.3% COLLECTED IN COMPARISON TO OUR AMENDED BUDGET NET OF OUR FUND BALANCE PLANNED USE.
WE ARE AT 54.3%, WHICH VERY CLOSELY MIRRORS WHERE WE WERE THIS SAME TIME THE LAST TWO FISCAL YEARS.
THERE WERE NO CONCERNS WITH REVENUE COLLECTIONS.
THEY INCLUDE, OF COURSE, OUR PURCHASE ORDER CARRYOVER, OUR GRANTS AND DONATIONS CARRYOVER.
THAT WAS APPROXIMATELY 579,000.
WE ALSO HAVE REPLACED OUR BOILER AND DID ANOTHER APPROPRIATION FOR OUR FLUE STACKS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE DID APPROPRIATE SOME FUND BALANCE THAT WAS SCHOOL CARRYOVER TO THE HEALTH FUND TO MAKE THAT HEALTH FUND CLOSER TO COMPLETE FROM THE SCHOOL PERSPECTIVE.
ADDITIONALLY, YOU APPROPRIATED $412,000 FOR SCHOOL BUSSES THAT WERE PURCHASED DURING FY 22 WHERE WE HAD PLANNED TO BORROWING THAT WE DID NOT END UP CONDUCTING.
SO TO DATE, ABOUT $4 MILLION OF FUND BALANCE HAS BEEN COMMITTED.
THE FIRST HALF WAS DUE ON DECEMBER 5TH AND COLLECTIONS SIT AT 54.2% AS OF MARCH 31ST.
THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR WE WERE RIGHT AT 53.4%.
AND THIS IS A GOOD INDICATOR THAT WE WILL MEET OUR BUDGET TARGET.
THE HALF SECOND HALF IS DUE IN JUNE.
TRADITIONALLY THAT IS DUE JUNE THE 5TH.
HOWEVER, THERE WILL BE A LATER DUE DATE OF JUNE 16TH.
OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES ARE ENTIRELY DUE DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE.
SO AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW YET HOW OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUES WILL MATERIALIZE FOR THE YEAR, BUT WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL MAKE OUR BUDGET TARGET OF 12.8 MILLION.
OUR SALES TAX REVENUES ARE ON TARGET WITH SEVEN MONTHS OF REVENUE POSTED TO DATE.
THERE IS A GOOD INDICATOR THAT WE WILL MAKE OUR TARGETED BUDGET.
OKAY. JUST TO LET THE BOARD KNOW WHAT OUR GENERAL FUND COLLECTIONS WERE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
AT THIS SAME TIME, THIS SLIDE DEPICTS THAT.
OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES SIMILARLY ARE ON TARGET.
WITH THREE QUARTERS OF THE YEAR COMPLETE, YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ABOUT A 75% EXPENDITURE.
UTILITIES. WE ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING A VERY SMALL OPERATING INCOME.
OUR REVENUES REMAIN A LITTLE BIT SLUGGISH, A LITTLE BIT IMPROVED OVER THE PRIOR QUARTER.
BUT AGAIN, OUR COLLECTIONS SHOULD BE AT ABOUT 75% FOR WATER AND SEWER.
THEY ARE SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT AND AN ADJUSTMENT HAS BEEN MADE IN OUR FY 24 BUDGETED PROJECTIONS DUE TO THAT DIMINISHED COLLECTION, IF YOU WILL.
THE BUDGET IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT INFLATED AS TO WHERE OUR COLLECTIONS ARE THIS YEAR.
AGAIN, WE ARE AT AN OPERATING SURPLUS, WHICH IS GOOD.
OUR NON OPERATING, WE ARE OPERATING AT A SLIGHT LOSS MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE LARGE NON OPERATING EXPENSES WHICH ARE TRANSFERS TO THE OPERATING FUND FOR OUR LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS.
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BUT OVERALL, OUR NET POSITION IS ACTUALLY LESS.I'M GOING TO SKIP TO THE RECAP SLIDE.
THIS PROVIDES YOU WITH SOME PICTURES OF THE NEWLY RENOVATED GARAGE.
SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.
OUR PAY APP THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE FOR MARCH 31ST SHOWS THE WORK AT 98.84% COMPLETE.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME PUNCH LIST ITEMS AND OUR GENERATOR IS NOW EXPECTED IN AUGUST, ACCORDING TO MR. SIMMONS. SO WE ARE JUST ABOUT COMPLETE JUST ABOUT WRAPPING THAT PROJECT UP.
SAME IS TRUE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO PROJECT.
WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE SYSTEM AND ALL PUNCH LIST ITEMS ARE COMPLETE.
WE AWAIT INSTALLATION OF OUR NEGOTIATED EQUIPMENT AND THE DECOMMISSIONING IS IN PROGRESS AND WE HAVE NOT YET BEEN BILLED BY L3 HARRIS FOR THAT CHANGE ORDER. BUT ALL THREE, ALL OTHER L3.
HARRIS AND VOICES HAVE BEEN PAID.
I BELIEVE THERE IS A JUNE 5TH.
THERE IS A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE JUDGE AND THE COMPANY AS WELL AS MR. STOKE AND MR. SIMMONS TO GET THAT PROJECT KICKED OFF.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
VERY FEW PROJECTS ARE IN THE CIP FUND FOR SCHOOLS.
IT IS A 98,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH A STUDENT CAPACITY OF 850 STUDENTS.
WE ARE RUNNING AN OPERATING SURPLUS RIGHT NOW.
OUR COLLECTIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHERE THEY WERE IN LODGING TAX.
WE'VE COLLECTED ABOUT $546,000 IN LODGING TAX REVENUES COMPARED TO 562,000 LAST MARCH.
AND OUR EXPENDITURES ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER PREDOMINANTLY DUE TO USE OF SOME CONTINGENCY.
AND YOUR TRANSFER THAT YOU MADE TO THE HERITAGE CENTER FOR THE FIRE AND MS MUSEUM OF $100,000.
WE ARE ON TARGET TO MAKE OUR BUDGETED REVENUE PROJECTION.
THE SAME IS TRUE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
OUR MEALS TAX REVENUES ARE OVER AT JUST OVER 1,012,000 COMPARED TO 927,000 LAST MARCH.
WE ARE RUNNING AN OPERATING SURPLUS RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE ON TARGET TO MEET OUR BUDGETED MEALS TAX REVENUE.
JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD, CASH PROFFERS THE BALANCE ON HAND IS JUST UNDER 139,000.
THERE IS NO PLANNED USE AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO REQUESTS.
THERE WERE NO COLLECTIONS THIS PAST QUARTER.
WE SIT AT TWO $2,165 AND WHICH IS HIGHER THAN WE COLLECTED THE LAST TWO YEARS, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. OUR FY 22 COLLECTIONS WERE 2648, SLIGHTLY ABOVE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
OUR FUND BALANCE AS OF MARCH 31ST WAS RIGHT AT 2.1 MILLION.
THIS IS HIGHER THAN IT WAS LAST MARCH, BUT LOWER THAN IT WAS THE PREVIOUS MARCH AT 3.3 MILLION.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE SCHOOL DIVISION TRANSITIONED TO THE LOCAL CHOICE JULY 1ST OF 22.
AND AS OF MARCH 31ST, OUR TOTAL CURRENT YEAR CLAIMS EXCEEDED CONTRIBUTIONS BY 295,000.
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THE COUNTY HAS A SURPLUS OF 327,000, WHILE THE SCHOOL CLAIMS AMOUNT TO ALMOST 34.THE SCHOOL DEFICIT IS AT $150,518 AFTER APPLYING THAT 386,000 AND WE ARE RUNNING A SURPLUS OF 2.24 MILLION.
THEY DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT WHOLE.
AND AGAIN, CLAIMS ARE TRICKLING IN, AS ARE CREDITS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO, MA'AM.
OUR PRELIMINARY AUDIT FIELD WORK HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR THE WEEK OF JULY 17TH THROUGH THE 21ST.
WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF OUR FY 24 BUDGET PROCESS.
ABSENT A STATE BUDGET FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AS BEGINNING TO BE FAMILIAR, WE ALWAYS MONITOR OUR CHILDREN'S SERVICES ACT EXPENDITURES AND MRS JUDGE AND LAKEISHA, LORI ROBERTSON AND MYSELF HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT YEAR END PROJECTIONS.
OUR JAIL EXPENDITURES ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING UNDER.
OUR CENSUS HAS BEEN DOWN, AS I HAVE SHARED WITH THE BOARD DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND WE WOULD TYPICALLY BE AT LEAST AT 75% WITH NINE MONTHS IN AND WE ARE AT UNDER 59% AT NINE MONTHS IN.
SO THAT IS A PLACE WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE A BUDGET SURPLUS.
UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY? NOBODY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. DREWRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MISS WALTON IS GOING TO GIVE US A QUARTERLY STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. STOKES. MR. MEEKS UNDER TAB.
ALL RIGHT. COPY OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN RELATED TO YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND TONIGHT, I AM HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR THE PROGRESS THE TEAMS HAVE MADE.
ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN THROUGH THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
AND AND JUST TO REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORIES AND FOR THE AUDIENCE'S BENEFIT, THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR INCLUDES FOUR MAIN STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROSPERITY, LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT, AND GOOD GOVERNANCE.
EACH OF THOSE FOUR MAIN PRIORITIES HAS MULTIPLE ACTION PLANS AND TIMEFRAMES AND MEASURABLE RESULTS LISTED UNDERNEATH OF THEM AND INCLUDED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
EACH ACTION PLAN HAS A TEAM ASSIGNED TO IT TO WORK ON ACHIEVEMENT OF THOSE GOALS AND QUARTERLY UPDATES WILL BE GIVEN TO THE BOARD OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD. SO UNDER THE FIRST PRIORITY OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE GOALS ONE THROUGH SEVEN TO ACHIEVE THE BOARD'S INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDES NOT ONLY WATER AND SEWER BROADBAND AS WELL AS COUNTY SERVICES.
AND THESE GOALS INCLUDE PROVIDING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF WATER AND SEWER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS IN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE PERCENTAGES WERE DEVELOPED WITH STAFF AND IN THE CONSULTANTS OF WHAT PERCENTAGES WERE REALISTIC GOALS FOR US TO ACHIEVE.
AND YOU CAN SEE OUR CURRENT PERCENTAGE OF CUSTOMERS AT THIS TIME.
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UNDER THOSE GOALS OF MAINTAINING OR PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES.SOME OF THE ACTIONS I THINK YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IS MR. HALTOM HAS BEEN UP HERE NUMEROUS TIMES WITH UPDATES ON THIS PROJECT, BUT THE MASTER PLAN FOR UTILITIES IS UNDERWAY.
I ATTENDED A KICKOFF MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO WHERE WE DISCUSSED POPULATION TRENDS AND ECONOMIC TRENDS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY ANTICIPATE THAT PLAN WILL BE COMPLETED IN JANUARY OF 2024.
AND THAT MASTER PLAN WILL ESTABLISH A NEW UTILITY SERVICE AREA, WHICH HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST WITH THE BOARD ABOUT A CONCENTRATED SMALLER AREA WITHIN THE PLANNING AREA THAT IS DEVOTED TO UTILITIES, CUSTOMERS AND THE REST OF THE PLANNING AREA COULD DEVELOP, AS WE TALKED IN THE PAST, OF HOW DO WE DEVELOP SOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT WATER AND SEWER.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ACCOMPLISHING TWO GOALS WITH THIS UTILITY SERVICE AREA.
AND OF COURSE THE SOUTH POINT BUSINESS, PARK FORCE MAIN IS WELL UNDERWAY.
CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN NEXT MONTH WITH A COMPLETION DATE OF SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
THE BLACKWATER SWAMP REGIONAL PUMP STATION, THE DESIGN IS 30% COMPLETE.
THE GRAVITY SEWER SURVEY IS STARTING AND THE PROJECT COMPLETION DATE IS OCTOBER OF 2026.
CONTINUING WITH THE UTILITY PROJECTS, THE WATER ACTION SACHSE AGAIN THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE AND THE RIVER ROAD TANK AND BOOSTER STATION DESIGN IS ALMOST COMPLETE AT 90%.
THE DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW AND APPROVALS SHOULD BEGIN IN MAY OF THIS YEAR WITH A COMPLETION DATE OF THAT PROJECT OF APRIL OF 2025. THE TEMPLE AVENUE 24 INCH WATERLINE CROSSING THAT MADDUX RIVER DESIGN AGAIN IS ALMOST COMPLETE AT 90%. THE DEPARTMENT IS REVIEWING IT ANTICIPATE APPROVALS BY AUGUST OF THIS YEAR AND A COMPLETION DATE OF THE PROJECT IN JUNE OF 2024. THE ROUTE 156 TANK AND BOOSTER STATION.
THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE RECEIVED IN MAY.
THEY DID START SOME EARLY DESIGN IN FEBRUARY.
WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED FUNDING YET FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THAT WILL BE A STEP THAT FRANK WILL HAVE TO DEVELOP A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT.
THE SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, THE SURFACE WATER WITHDRAWAL PERMIT WAS ISSUED LATE LAST YEAR.
WE ESTIMATE THAT 23% OF HOUSING UNITS IN THE COUNTY ARE EITHER UNSERVED OR UNDERSERVED, AND THE COUNTY HAS BEEN APPLYING THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FOR GRANTS FROM VARIOUS AGENCIES TO ASSIST WITH FUNDING THE BROADBAND PROJECT THROUGH THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, APPLICATIONS WERE MADE WITH SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS.
THE JOHN RANDOLPH FOUNDATION REQUEST WAS NOT APPROVED, BUT THE CAMERON FOUNDATION AND VTR REQUEST ARE STILL ONGOING, AND I THINK THE VTA WILL NOT BE ANNOUNCED UNTIL TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR.
THIS IS A MAP PROVIDED OF THE POTENTIAL EXPANSION AREAS FOR OUR BROADBAND.
I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THEY ARE IDENTIFIED SIX AREAS THAT WE ARE WORKING.
WITH THE CO OP AND OTHER AGENCIES TO TRY AND EXPAND WITH THAT.
AND MR JABRI HAS BEEN LEADING THIS INITIATIVE FOR US.
AND THE GOAL WAS BY MARCH OF 2024, WE, THE COMMUNITY, WILL EXPERIENCE AN INCREASED ACCESS TO TRASH DISPOSAL THROUGH THE ADDITION OF ONE DROP OFF STATION IN THE COUNTY.
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AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE LOCATION WAS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE COUNTY OWNED YANCY.PROPERTY AND DESIGN DRAWINGS ARE APPROXIMATELY 60% COMPLETE AT THIS TIME.
MR SIMMONS HAS APPLIED FOR THE SPECIAL EXEMPTION ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF FOR THE USE OF THIS FACILITY ON THE YANCY PROPERTY, AND HE ANTICIPATED AROUND SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR WITH A COMPLETION DATE OF SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.
A SECOND TRASH DISPOSAL GOAL OF THE COUNTY WAS TO MAKE A DECISION REGARDING NO COST TRASH DISPOSAL.
THAT GOAL IS SET FOR DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD FOR THE COUNTY TO MAKE A DECISION REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING IMPLEMENTING A NO COST TRASH DISPOSAL AT THIS POINT.
THE NEXT STRATEGIC PRIORITY WAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROSPERITY.
AND THESE GOALS ASSIGNED TO THIS PRIORITY INCLUDE GOALS EIGHT THROUGH 13.
SO OUR GOAL NUMBER EIGHT TO EXIT 45 RENOVATION AND DEVELOPMENT FOR WATER AND SEWER.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS APPLIED FOR THE NEW WELL AT EXIT 45.
THE SERVICE THAT AREA THEY ARE FINANCING LOOKING AT FINANCING THAT OVER 15 YEARS WITH THE DEBT SERVICE FUNDED THROUGH THE TOURISM FUND.
STRATEGIC GOAL NINE WAS THE EXIT 45 RENOVATION DEVELOPMENT THE GROCERY STORE AND SIT DOWN RESTAURANT DESIRE. SO BY 2026 THE DESIRE IS FOR THE COMMUNITY WILL EXPERIENCE A GROCERY STORE AND SIT DOWN RESIDENTS RESTAURANT AS PART OF THE EXIT 45 DEVELOPMENT.
OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WAS AWARDED A GRANT THROUGH DHCD, AS YOU HEARD AT YOUR LAST MEETING, FOR $12,000 TO DEVELOP AN EXIT 45 MASTER PLAN. AND THE MASTER PLAN WILL FOCUS ON THE STEPHEN KENT AREA OF THE EXIT 45 AREA AND THE CONTINENTAL SITE.
IN THE MEANTIME, THE RETAIL STRATEGIES OUTREACH PERFORMED BY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN COMPLETED WITH 29 DIFFERENT RETAIL AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE USERS AND TWO GROCERY RETAILERS TO PROMOTE THESE SITES AND TRY TO DEVELOP INTEREST IN THOSE SITES.
GOAL TEN IS THE WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY IN THE PRINCE GEORGE INDUSTRIAL AREA.
BY 2024, SHORT TERM WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY INCREASES WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA AGAIN, AS MR HALTOM HAS HAS KEPT US UPDATED ON THOSE PLANNED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WE HAVE FOR WATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT AND ONE SEWER PROJECT THAT AFFECT THIS AREA.
ALL OF THOSE ARE EITHER UNDER PR OR DESIGN CONTRACTS OR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS.
AND AGAIN, THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR TWO OF THOSE STILL NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED.
BUT THE PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE GREATLY IN THIS AREA ON KEEPING THOSE INITIATIVES MOVING FORWARD.
GOALS 11 THROUGH 13 REGARD NEW BUSINESSES LOCATED IN THE PRINCE GEORGE INDUSTRIAL AREA AND GIVE YOU CAN SEE YOUR LIST OF BY YEAR HOW MANY NEW BUSINESSES TO BE LOCATED IN THE AREA ARE THE GOALS.
AND JUST AS AN UPDATE WE DID SAM'S CLUB DISTRIBUTION CENTER HAS LOCATED IN THE BUSINESS PARK AND THEY ARE WORKING ON GETTING THEIR CENTER UP AND GOING AND ALSO WORLDWIDE RETAIL SOLUTIONS LOCATED.
OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO UPDATING OUR ENTERPRISE ZONE PLACEMENT AND INCENTIVES TO INCLUDE SOME DIFFERENT OR IMPROVED INCENTIVES FOR OUR INDUSTRIAL AREAS TO HELP WITH BUSINESSES LOCATING THERE.
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AND THEY ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP AND VIRGINIA'S GATEWAY REGION TO MARKET THE COUNTY INDUSTRIAL SITES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.UNDERLYING USE AND DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ONE INVOLVES THE COMP PLAN AND THE LAND USE ORDINANCES, WHICH BY DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, THE WAY THAT PRESERVES THE RURAL WAY OF LIFE AND DIRECTS THE MAJORITY OF GROWTH TO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY PLANNING AREA.
THE COUNTY WILL REVISIT AND UPDATE ITS LAND USE ORDINANCES.
THE DRAFT RFP FOR THE SERVICES SCHEDULED FOR DEVELOPMENT IN MAY OF 2023.
IF THE BUDGET REQUEST IS APPROVED, WE WOULD THEN RELEASE THE RFP IN JULY.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A DRAFT PLAN IN YOUR ORDINANCES FOR REVIEW BY THE END OF 2023.
OF COURSE, THE COMMUNITY INPUT KNOTT PROCESSES IS A BIG PART OF THAT SCHEDULE.
SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THE FINALS READY FOR YOU BY THE QUARTER TWO OF 2024.
AND WITH THE BUDGET PRESENTATION WE DID MR STOKE DID INCLUDE IN HIS PROPOSED BUDGET NINE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED.
OF THE 59 TOTAL THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE CONSULTANTS.
AND PHASE TWO, THOUGH, WILL BE POSTPONED BEYOND FY 2024 AND HOPEFULLY ADDRESSED IN FY 2025.
GOAL 16 INCLUDED THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE RESOURCE, WHICH HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
THE RECRUITMENT OF HIRING WAS COMPLETED IN OCTOBER AND MS..
LIPFORD HAS WORKED ON NUMEROUS ITEMS ON THE LIST OF OUR GOALS, INCLUDING THE WEBSITE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGEMENT AND MESSAGING STYLE GUIDES, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AS WELL AS FIRE HANDBOOK FOR RESIDENTS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. SHE HAS ALSO WORKED ON THE COMMUNITY AND CITIZENS INQUIRIES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, A NEW PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE PAGE HAS BEEN CREATED THAT ENCOURAGES CITIZENS TO FUNNEL QUESTIONS THROUGH THAT PAGE AND GET IT WITHIN TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENTS AND RESPONSES WITHIN 24 HOURS.
THE CONTACT PAGES ON OUR WEBSITE HAVE BEEN UPDATED.
AS WELL AS EACH DEPARTMENT PAGE WAS REVIEWED AND CHECKED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT PAGE HAD A CONTACT PHONE NUMBER IN PERSON FOR THE PAGE. WE ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR 311 APP AND CITIZEN COMPLAINT ONLINE PORTAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE 311 APP IS WHERE CITIZENS CAN USE THEIR CELL PHONES.
A DEPARTMENT CHEAT SHEET HAS BEEN CREATED WITH LISTING OF AND DESCRIPTION OF WHAT EACH DEPARTMENT DOES, AND THIS IS USED TO ASSIST WITH DIRECTING CALLERS.
WE GET CALLS A LOT OF TIMES AT DEPARTMENTS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT REALLY UNDER OUR PURVIEW, BUT WE NEED A LIST TO KNOW WHERE TO SEND THEM SO THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND SENDING THEM TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT.
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YOUR COMMITMENT TO BEING A CUSTOMER FOCUSED AND PERFORMANCE DRIVEN ORGANIZATION.SO WHAT WE HAD BEEN DISCUSSING IS THE DEPARTMENT ANNUAL REPORTS WILL BE SHIFTED TO A FISCAL YEAR REPORT AND WILL BE OPTIONAL ON THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL AND WOULD BE CONTAINED ON THEIR DEPARTMENT PAGES.
A COUNTY ANNUAL REPORT WILL BE PREPARED THAT WILL FOLLOW FISCAL YEARS AND WILL FOCUS ON YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, INCLUDING A STATUS UPDATE ON YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS.
SO THAT WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN LATER THIS YEAR.
AND THE DEPARTMENT REPORTS WILL HAPPEN ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO DO CALENDAR YEAR FOR SOME OF THEIR CERTIFICATIONS AND REPORTING DATA.
SOME WILL BE DOING FISCAL YEAR REPORTING.
RFP WILL BE ISSUED ON OR AROUND JULY OF THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND UNIT STRATEGIC PLANS. THE FIRST SERIES WILL BE BUDGETED AND COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 24 AND TARGETED COMPLETION DATE FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS IS FISCAL YEAR 2027.
AND THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TO FOR EACH DEPARTMENT TO HAVE THEIR OWN STRATEGIC PLAN AND GOALS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE RESULTS THAT WE WANT FROM EACH DEPARTMENT FOR OUR CITIZENS AND FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND THAT IS THE END OF MY UPDATE REPORT.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR IF YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THE PLAN THAT WAS NOT MENTIONED.
ONLY UPDATES WERE MENTIONED TONIGHT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE THIS STRATEGIC PLAN AND THAT WE'RE USING IT SO MANY TIMES THERE'S A STRATEGIC PLAN FORMATTED MADE AND PUT ON A SHELF.
YES, SIR. BUT THIS ISN'T HAPPENING HERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. OKAY, IT'S PAST 7:30 AND I THINK 7:30 IS THE TIME WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL START THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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WE'LL COME BACK TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS AT THAT TIME.WE HAVE NO POSTPONED ORDER, BY THE WAY.
SO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS P ONE REZONING AMENDMENT Z 2206 REQUEST OF JAMES R JONES BUILDER TO AMEND THE PROFFERED CONDITIONS OF REZONING CASE ZM 0304 RELATING TO A BUFFER REQUIREMENTS AND THAT'S ON TAP MAP TEXT MAP 340 000 20 C AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAPS.
SO, MISS WALTON, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
THANK YOU. THIS REQUEST IS OF JAMES R JONES BUILDER, INC.
IT'S TO AMEND THE PROFFER CONDITIONS FROM A PREVIOUS REZONING CASE FROM 2004 2003 RELATED TO THREE OF THE PROPER CONDITIONS THAT WERE CONTAINED IN THAT ORIGINAL CASE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R E WAS REZONED AGAIN, AS I SAID IN OH THREE, COMPRISES APPROXIMATELY 128 ACRES WITH FRONTAGE ON BULL HILL ROAD AND COURTHOUSE ROAD.
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THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOES INDICATE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.AND IF I COULD DIRECT THE BOARD'S ATTENTION TO TAB SEVEN, THERE IS A DESCRIPTION AND CURRENT STATUS OF THE CASE DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND FOLLOWING THAT IS THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS WHAT THE POWERPOINT WILL ADDRESS AND REVIEW.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP FOR THE PROPERTY.
IT'S AGAIN THE BULL HILL ROAD COURTHOUSE ROAD INTERSECTION.
IT STRETCHES FROM BULL HILL AND WRAPS AROUND TO COURTHOUSE ROAD.
THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP FOR THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, IT WAS REZONED PREVIOUSLY TO RE WITH PROPER CONDITIONS.
ORANGE AREA ON THE MAP IS R2, WHICH IS LIMITED RESIDENTIAL AND THE RA IS SHOWN IN THE PALE YELLOW. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW.
IT IS THE FIELD STARTS AT THE FIELD ON BULL HILL ROAD THAT MANY OF US PASS AND AGAIN WRAPS AROUND TO THE CHURCH PROPERTY OFF OF COURTHOUSE ROAD.
THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THE ZONING CASE WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2003.
IT HAD PROPER CONDITIONS IN THE REZONING CASE.
THE THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT PROFFERED CONDITIONS WHICH WERE ACCEPTED BY THE BOARD AND ADDRESSED ITEMS SUCH AS BUFFERS, PUBLIC UTILITIES, ROADS, ROADS, HOUSE SIZE, MINIMUM PHASING AND CASH PROFFER.
THE ORIGINAL CASE MATERIALS WERE PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET ALONG WITH THE ORIGINAL PROFFER STATEMENT.
THIS APPLICANT HAS RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY.
IT WAS NEVER DEVELOPED AFTER BEING REZONED IN 2003.
AND THIS APPLICANT, IN REVIEWING THE CASE AND THE PROFFERS FROM 2003, HAS REQUESTED TO AMEND THREE OF THE PROFFERS AND THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDE FOR PROFFER NUMBER ONE ON THE SCREENING TO REMOVE THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN EARTHEN BERM IN SIX FEET IN HEIGHT ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF BULL HILL ROAD FROM THE CONDITION AND TO REPLACE THAT WITH A MIXTURE OF SHRUBS AND TREES AND LANDSCAPING.
THE SECOND REQUEST IS TO AMEND PROFFER NUMBER FOUR ON THE HOUSE SIZE MINIMUM TO REMOVE THE CONDITION REQUIRING ALL HOMES HAVE A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 3000FT² TO REPLACE IT WITH ONE STORY HOME SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM SQUARE.
FOOTAGE OF 1802 STORY HOMES WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM OF 2000FT².
SO THAT IS CONDITIONED LIVING SPACE.
AND THE LAST REQUESTED AMENDMENT WAS TO PROFFER NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE PHASING AND TO AMEND THAT CONDITION TO NO MORE THAN 20 BUILDING PERMITS PER YEAR RATHER THAN 15.
SO FROM THE ORIGINAL ZONING CASE, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A GENERIC GENERAL LAYOUT.
IT DOES SHOW TWO ENTRANCES COMING OUT TO BULL HILL ROAD AND THE WETLAND WET AREA IN THE BACK ON THE COURTHOUSE ROAD SIDE.
IT IS DONE ON ANYWHERE BUT THE TWO ON BULL HILL.
NOT ONE FOR COURTHOUSE? NO. NO, SIR.
I DIDN'T SEE IT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS READING IT RIGHT.
IT'S VERY SWAMPY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
SO AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE DO SEND OUT.
JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO A CURRENT SUBDIVISION AND REZONING REQUEST.
THE DISTRICT WILL NOT CHANGE ONLY THE CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CASE.
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NO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ARE RECOMMENDED.THE ISSUES IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, EACH AGENCY HAS LISTED ANY CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE.
THE ISSUES OF VDOT AND PUBLIC UTILITIES WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF PLAT AND SITE PLAN.
I DO. OTHER STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS.
I DID FROM THE BUILDING CODE SIDE.
THE ADDITION FROM 15 TO 20 DOES NOT AFFECT OUR DEPARTMENT AT ALL.
WE ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF HANDLING THAT NOW.
AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SIZE IS MORE OF WHAT THE MARKET IS NOW.
AND THE BURN IS ACTUALLY WAS A FAVORITE WAY OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST.
SO WE DO FEEL LIKE THAT THOSE CHANGES ARE APPROPRIATE AND THAT'S WHY THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THEY ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TIME AND ZONING UNDER THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.
THEY GAVE SOME INFORMATIONAL REQUESTS AND THE DEVELOPER IS AWARE OF THIS, THAT WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY ISSUES AT THIS TIME AND THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WILL NOT BE COMPLETED UNTIL LATE SPRING OF 2025.
SO THERE WILL BE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF CAPACITY UNTIL THOSE ARE COMPLETED.
UNDER THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK STAFF DID TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER MAILING.
WE RAN THE REQUIRED LEGAL ADS.
THE APPLICANT REVIEWED A COPY.
NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY BEFORE FINALIZING THE STAFF REPORT.
WE DID HAVE SOME COMMENT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WITH THE BOARD AND FORWARD THOSE SOME OF THE COMMENTS CONCERNED PROTECTION OF THE SWAMP AND CREEK AREA IN THE BACK AND THOSE ITEMS. AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE MS ORDINANCE AS WELL AS STATE DEC RUNOFF REQUIREMENTS.
THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER A SECOND ENTRANCE COULD GO THROUGH THE COURTHOUSE AND THE DEVELOPER AND DID AGREE THAT WOULD BE VERY CHALLENGING AND WOULD KIND OF STAY WITH THE TWO ENTRANCES ON BULL HILL ROAD.
TWO ENTRANCES ARE ACTUALLY DESIRABLE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO WE DO RECOMMEND MAINTAINING TWO ENTRANCES SO THAT THERE'S ALWAYS AN ALTERNATE IF AN EMERGENCY HAPPENS ON ONE SIDE THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATE ROUTE OUT TO OUT OR INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND JUST A REMINDER, TOO, THAT THIS REZONING AND CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS ALREADY IN PLACE, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS RECENTLY PURCHASED IT AND WOULD JUST LIKE TO MODIFY SOME OF THE ORIGINAL CONDITIONS FROM 2003.
NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK WAS RECEIVED FROM THE MAILINGS PRIOR TO PUBLISHING THE STAFF REPORT.
WE DID GET THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
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IN YOUR PACKET THERE.SOME SAMPLE MOTIONS THAT WE INCLUDED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS YOUR REVIEW, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE BEFORE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO ASK TO GO.
YES, MA'AM. MRS. WALTON, THIS IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT IN ANY WAY THE DOGBONE THE ROUNDABOUT.
THAT HAS NO IMPACT ON THIS, DOES IT? THIS. THESE ENTRANCES AND THIS SUBDIVISION IS UP FURTHER FROM BULL HILL.
IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION AREA.
OF COURSE, THEY WILL BE IMPACTED BY ANY DETOURS AT THE TIME DURING DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. WALTON AT THIS TIME? I'M GOOD. OKAY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. JONES ISN'T HERE TO MAKE COMMENT.
OH, YES. DID THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
DID HE WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ANSWER.
YOU CAN DO THAT IF WE HAVE THE NEED AFTERWARDS.
IT'S P ONE REZONING AMENDMENT.
YOU'VE HEARD MS. WALTON JUST DESCRIBE IT IN FULL DETAIL.
IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS AMENDMENT FOR OR AGAINST IT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
NOW, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND GIVE US YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT IT.
ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS P ONE REZONING AMENDMENT RC 2206 COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MAKE YOUR COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
I SEE NO ONE. WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP.
MRS KNOTT. NO MR SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD AND NO ONE SIGNED UP.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
AND HE WAS ALL IN FAVOR OF PUTTING IN HIS OPINION, TOO, THINKS IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND HAS NO ISSUES BEING NEIGHBORS WITH THIS TYPE OF.
SUBDIVISION, IF YOU WILL, OR CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT.
DID ANYBODY ELSE MISS WAYMACK? NO. NO, MR. BROWN. NO, SIR.
I HAVE NONE. MR. I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
THESE AMENDMENT CHANGES FOR THIS, AS SO STATED.
AND I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS IT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HAVING DONE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, FOR APPROVAL.
P TWO IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST OF ERIC ASHCRAFT AND PAMELA CRAFT TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE MAP. MR. TIM, WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FOR US? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN HUNTER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND MR. STOKE AND MR. MEEKS.
THIS, AS YOU HEARD, IS A REQUEST OF ERIC AND PAMELA CRAFT TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL IN ORDER TO SUPPORT A COMPANION REZONING REQUEST FOR THE SAME PROPERTY.
AND THAT REZONING REQUEST WILL FOLLOW AFTER THIS ONE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES IN SIZE.
IT'S LOCATED AT 12.415 JAMES RIVER DRIVE AND IS IDENTIFIED AS A TAX MAP NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
ON THIS SLIDE IS THE ZONING MAP.
IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL, AS IS THE AREA AROUND IT.
THERE IS SOME R-1 RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE NORTH.
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THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.YOU CAN SEE THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS FORMERLY USED AS A CHURCH SOME YEARS AGO.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS INDICATED THIS AREA IS PLANNED FOR RESIDENTIAL SINCE AT LEAST 1986, AND THE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY AGAIN WAS FORMERLY USED AS A CHURCH AND HAS BEEN VACANT AND THEY RECENTLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN MAY OF 2022.
AND THERE THEY INTEND TO OPERATE A BAKERY INSIDE OF IT.
AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE MET WITH THE APPLICANTS AND EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DOESN'T SUPPORT A REZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS THEY SUBMITTED.
AGAIN, THEY WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE A BAKERY.
THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
AND IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, THEN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WOULD CHANGE FOR THIS.
THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR WITH A MODIFICATION THAT A DIFFERENT DESIGNATION IN THE FUTURE LAND USE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
AND I WILL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TERMS. IN THE NEXT SLIDE AFTER THIS, I BELIEVE OR I WILL EXPLAIN IT.
SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS NOT BENEFITED FROM A FULL SCALE REVIEW IN AT LEAST 15 YEARS.
SO THERE'S NOT BEEN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER IF RESIDENTIAL REMAINS THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY AND THE CORRIDOR OF JAMES RIVER DRIVE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.
SO THIS IS THIS PROPERTY IS AT AN IMPORTANT INTERSECTION.
THE ROUTE TEN AND ALSO HERITAGE ROAD ARE RELATIVELY HIGH TRAFFIC CORRIDORS.
IT IS. PRETTY STANDARD FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR ON HIGH TRAFFIC CORRIDORS WHERE THERE'S GOOD EXPOSURE TO CUSTOMER TRAFFIC.
LARGER SCALE, MORE MORE UNITS, LARGER BUILDINGS.
THOSE REQUIRE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
ON THIS SIDE, YOU HAVE THE THREE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS TO CONSIDER FROM THE FUTURE.
THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION IS DESCRIBED IN THE COMP PLAN AS.
THIS CATEGORY INCLUDES AREAS WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA WHERE SMALL LOT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ENCOURAGED AND PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND REQUIRED FOR SUCH DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THERE IS NO SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM ENVISIONED PUBLIC WATER SEWER PLAN FOR THIS AREA, SO THAT MAY NOT BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS DESCRIBED AS AREAS WHERE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAVE OCCURRED AND WHERE FUTURE URBAN AND SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE ENCOURAGED. PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES ARE GENERALLY AVAILABLE OR PLANNED FOR THESE AREAS.
SO AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE DESIGNATION IF THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION SAYS AREAS WHERE SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL USES ARE ENCOURAGED.
SO IN STAFF'S OPINION, THIS SEEMS TO BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY IN CONSIDERATION THAT THIS PROPERTY OWNER IS SEEKING TO DO COMMERCIAL USES IN AN EXISTING BUILDING ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND NO PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER ARE NECESSARY FOR THAT LEVEL OF ACTIVITY THAT THEY WANT TO DO.
AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE REQUEST OR ESSENTIALLY APPROVE IT.
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THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE ROUTE TEN CORRIDOR BE EXAMINED IN DETAIL DURING THE NEXT MAJOR UPDATE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DURING THAT.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE TO BEGIN LATER THIS YEAR.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND ULTIMATELY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ARE BASED ON CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION APPEARS TO BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY BASED ON THE CURRENT AND FUTURE SURROUNDING USES AND THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTIONS IN THE COMP PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GRIEVE? NO, SIR.
THEY HAVE ADEQUATE THEY HAVE A WELL AND SEPTIC AND THEY WILL BE CONFIRMED.
THEY HAD TO HIRE A AN ENGINEER TO CONFIRM THAT THEIR SYSTEM WILL BE ADEQUATE AND THAT WILL BE CONFIRMED BEFORE THEY GET THE FINAL SIGN OFF IF THIS IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS.
THANK YOU. SO THIS WOULD ACCOMMODATE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE OR THE REQUEST? YES. OTHER QUESTIONS.
YOU'VE HEARD MR. GREAVES EXPLAIN WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD BE WOULD ENTAIL.
ANYONE HAVING COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP. MRS KNOTT NO MR CHAIRMAN.
NO ONE SIGNED UP TO COME FORWARD.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
IT LOOKS LIKE IF THIS WILL SATISFY THEIR NEED, THIS NEW ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE A AN APPROPRIATE PLAN.
THIS WOULD SUPPORT THEIR REZONING REQUEST.
I WOULD. SO MOVE THEN THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY.
AND I'LL SECOND MR BROWN AND CARMICHAEL MR CARMICHAEL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S CONCERNING THE SAME PROPERTY.
BE REZONING IT NOW AS REQUESTED BY THE SAME PEOPLE.
AND MR. GRAVES WILL EXPLAIN THIS PART FOR US.
YES. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS UNDER TAB NINE.
THEY PLAN TO OPERATE A BAKERY ON THE PROPERTY.
AND WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROPERTY IN THE LAST CASE.
AND YOU HAVE JUST APPROVED THE CHANGE TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FOR THIS PROPERTY.
FUTURE LAND USE MAP. HERE'S THE PROPERTY AGAIN.
AGAIN, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THAT COLOR TO RED FOR GENERAL BUSINESS.
AGAIN, THERE'S THE AERIAL VIEW.
AND THE BACKGROUND IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.
SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE A COMMERCIAL BAKERY IN THE EXISTING BUILDING.
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LOCATIONS. THEY DON'T CURRENTLY ENVISION HAVING CUSTOMERS COME TO THAT BUILDING.NO MORE THAN FIVE EMPLOYEES ARE ENVISIONED FOR THEIR BUSINESS ACTIVITY IN THIS BUILDING.
BUT THEIR ONLY GOAL IS TO OPERATE A BAKERY RIGHT NOW.
HERE'S A STREET VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM 2016, BUT IT ESSENTIALLY LOOKS LIKE THAT NOW.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMENTS ARE WE NOTED THE ADJACENT.
THERE IS A CHURCH ON THE ON ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY AND THEIR EXPECTED IMPACTS OF THIS REZONING WOULD BE MINIMAL CHANGE, IF ANYTHING, FOR THIS INITIAL BAKERY USE.
AGAIN, THEY DON'T PLAN TO HAVE CUSTOMERS AND THEY JUST WANT TO BAKE COOKIES IN THERE.
THERE COULD BE HIGHER IMPACTS ON THE PROPERTY FOR OTHER B ONE USES IN THE FUTURE, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS A UNIQUE SHAPE AND SIZE AND IS LIMITED BY WHAT CAN HAPPEN ON THAT, BY THAT SHAPE AND SIZE AND OTHER OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOW SUPPORTS THIS REQUEST FOR A BE ONE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.
OTHER DEPARTMENTS REVIEWED THIS.
THE BUILDING OFFICIAL INDICATED THEY'LL HAVE TO DO A CHANGE OF USE FOR THE BUILDING.
AND SO PART OF THAT PROCESS IS GETTING THE IS INSPECTING THE BUILDING TO CONFIRM THAT IT MEETS THE BUILDING CODE FOR WHATEVER CLASSIFICATION GOES ALONG WITH HAVING A BAKERY IN THERE. AND THEY'LL NOT ALLOW THEY'LL NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE OPERATIONAL UNTIL THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETED.
AND THEY'RE ALREADY AWARE OF THAT AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
AND THEN FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY NOTED THAT AT THE TIME OF THAT COMMENT THEY WERE BEING EVALUATED BY A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TO DETERMINE IF THE SITE IS SUITABLE FOR THE PROPOSED BAKERY USE AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE THAT CONFIRMATION TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION INDICATES THAT THEY JUST PROVIDED TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR THIS ROAD, AND THEY STATED THAT A LOW VOLUME COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE IS NECESSARY AND THAT WOULD THAT TYPE OF ENTRANCE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SIGHT DISTANCE ALONG THE ROAD.
AND THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT WITH V DOT.
THERE'S. OPTIONS FOR THEM IF THEIR EXISTING PLACE WHERE THEY ENTER THE PROPERTY WITH A VEHICLE DOESN'T MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THEN THEY CAN SHIFT IT TO A PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT DOES. SO THEY'LL WORK ON THAT WITH VDOT.
SO WILL THAT BE ALL FOR 635 OR FOR TEN? IT'S ON ROUTE TEN.
OH, VISIBILITY. HERE IS THE PROFFERED CONDITION WHICH IS RESTRICTING THE B ONE USES AND THEY HAVE OFFERED TO RESTRICT USES, INCLUDING FUNERAL HOMES, SERVICE STATIONS WITH MAJOR REPAIR FACILITIES, AUTO SALES AND SERVICE, HOME AND AUTO APPLIANCES, CEMETERIES, CIRCUSES.
THE AND STAFF FINDS THESE APPROPRIATE.
PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND PURSUANT TO THAT PROFFERED CONDITION THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT.
AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
ALL RIGHT. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS GREECE? I'M GOOD. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE CALLING IT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
RIGHT. ON THE REZONING, THOUGH, I JUST ONLY HEARD YOU SAY COMMERCIAL.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION JUST SUPPORTS COMMERCIAL USES OF A SMALL SCALE.
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SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S FOR BUSINESS.SO I'M JUST USING THE TERM GENERALLY COMMERCIAL.
OKAY. AND THE ONLY REASON I ASK AND NOT SAYING ANYTHING HAS TO CHANGE TONIGHT, BUT I CAN SAY FOR ME FOR THE FUTURE, HAVING AN AREA WHERE WE WOULD, INSTEAD OF JUST CALLING IT COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, TRULY WHAT ARE LIKE THE BIGGER SCALE COMMERCIAL AREAS VERSUS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, THERE IS A DIFFERENT COLOR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. OKAY. SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE SEE THAT DISTINCTION ONCE WE UPDATE THE MAP.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD.
WE'LL OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS REZONING OF THIS AREA, THIS TWO ACRES OUT ROUTE TEN.
ANYBODY MAKING ANY COMMENTS WANTS YOU TO MAKE COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST, COME FORWARD.
MRS. KNOTT. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
MR. CHAIRMAN, NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK WITH THAT.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RETURN IT TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I'LL MOVE THAT.
WE APPROVE THE REZONING REQUEST THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
I SECOND A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MS..
WAYMACK TO APPROVE THE P THREE REZONING OF THESE TWO ACRES.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NOTHING. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
P FOUR IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST OF NICOLE.
YES. AND MISS MORE TO PERMIT AN ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY WITHIN A GENERAL COMMERCIAL B1 ZONING DISTRICT PURSUANT TO PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE.
IS THAT YOU AGAIN, SIR? SIR? YES, SIR.
OKAY, MR. GRAVES. THAT'S MY LAST ONE.
THIS ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY THEY WISH TO OPEN ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.115 ACRES IN SIZE.
IT'S LOCATED ON PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE, 4821.
AND THE TAX MAP NUMBER IS PROVIDED THERE.
AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP INDICATES THIS PROPERTY PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
THE ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING.
IT'S RED FOR GENERAL BUSINESS AND FARTHER AWAY AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AS WELL.
THIS PROPERTY IS ONE HALF OF THE TWO BUILDING COMPLEX THERE WITH A PARKING LOT IN THE MIDDLE.
YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE ADDRESSES FOR THE DIFFERENT UNITS INSIDE OF THERE.
THIS REQUEST IS THIS THESE APPLICANTS WOULD BE LOCATING IN THE FRONT PART OF THAT BUILDING ALONG PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE. THE REQUEST IS FOR AN ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY IN AN EXISTING BUILDING, AND THEY PROVIDED DETAILS IN THEIR APPLICATION, SUCH AS THAT PARTICIPANTS WILL SOCIALIZE AND HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO SOCIALIZE AND DO ACTIVITIES. THE NAME OF THEIR BUSINESS IS OUR LOVED ONES.
THEY WOULD LEASE SUITES A, B AND C.
IT'S ABOUT 5000FT² TOTAL, AND THE OPERATIONAL HOURS WOULD BE 7:30 A.M.
SO THEY WILL HAVE AT LEAST ONE STAFF PER SIX PARTICIPANTS.
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AND A MORE RECENT AERIAL VIEW.AND THERE IS A VERY RECENT PHOTO OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THERE WAS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THIS PROPERTY IN 2015 FOR KIDCO ACADEMY, A CHILD CARE CENTER.
SO THIS FALLS UNDER A MORE GENERAL CLASSIFICATION OF SPECIAL CARE HOSPITAL, WHICH IS A GENERAL CATEGORY HERE, AND THE DEFINITION IS PROVIDED THERE.
IT MENTIONS AN INSTITUTION RENDERING CARE PRIMARILY FOR MENTAL OR FEEBLE MINDED PATIENTS.
NOT EVERYONE IN THIS FACILITY, ACCORDING TO THESE APPLICANTS, WOULD NEED CLOSE ATTENTION AND CARE.
THERE'S A RANGE OF CARE NEEDED.
THE EXPECTED IMPACTS FOR THIS WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN OTHER THAT WE CAN FORESEE.
AND THEY'RE ADDRESSED BY EXISTING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS OFFICE STATED THAT A CHANGE OF USE WILL BE REQUIRED.
SO THEY'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONFIRMED BEFORE THEY OPERATE.
THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, BECAUSE THERE THEY WERE CONFIRMING WHETHER THE FOOD PERMIT WAS NEEDED BECAUSE THE APPLICATION MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT COOKING, BUT THEY CLARIFIED THE APPLICANTS CLARIFIED.
THE THERE IS A PRIVATE WELL THAT SERVES THE FACILITY.
AND SO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAID THEY'LL NEED TO ESSENTIALLY GET THE RIGHT PERMIT FOR THAT.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND THAT WILL BE CONFIRMED BEFORE THEY BEGIN OPERATIONS.
VDOT SAID THE EXISTING ENTRANCES IS SUITABLE FOR THIS AND NO OBJECTION FROM VDOT.
THE. WE RECOMMEND THAT WE PROVIDE A DEFINITION FOR WHAT AN ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY IS.
WE DON'T HAVE ONE IN THE ORDINANCE, SO THAT MEANS IT'S NOT ALLOWING ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPECIAL CARE, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY AN ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING IS DEFINED AS A FACILITY, LICENSED A FACILITY LICENSED BY THE STATE, IF APPLICABLE, OPERATED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING CARE, PROTECTION AND OR GUIDANCE FOR A PORTION OF A 24 HOUR DAY TO ADULTS WHO DO NOT RESIDE IN THE FACILITY.
SO ANY OTHER STATE LICENSES THAT THEY NEED, THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THOSE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
AND THE FULL LIST OF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IS IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR YOU.
PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR STAFF.
I'M SURE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS LOCATION AND ITS AMPLE EXITS AND ENTRANCES FROM MOUNT SINAI, AS WELL AS PRINCE GEORGE'S DRIVE. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. GREAVES? NO, SIR. NO.
AGE RESTRICTIONS FOR THIS KNOTT BY THE CONDITIONS.
WE'LL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC HEARING THEN.
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AND. 156.AFTER MEETING THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS.
ANYBODY WITH COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL COME FORWARD AND BESPOKE.
ANYBODY SIGNED UP? MR. KNOTT. NO, SIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED BY STAFF.
THANK YOU. MR. BRIAN ANY COMMENTS.
ALL RIGHT. SECOND MRS WAYMACK.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
P5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE EFFECTIVE REAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
EQUALIZATION RATE CONSIDERATION MR DREWRY.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT PUBLIC HEARING MATERIAL FOR AN EFFECTIVE REAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
WE DISCUSSED IT FURTHER AT YOUR MARCH 16TH BUDGET WORK SESSION.
IF THOSE PROPERTY VALUES INCREASE BY MORE THAN 1%, YOU MUST EITHER REDUCE YOUR TAX RATE SO REVENUES ARE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN 100 101% OF PRIOR YEAR LEVIES, WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS EQUALIZATION.
CONVERSELY, YOU MAY ADVERTISE AN EFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE OR THE INTENT TO NOT EQUALIZE.
THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE VALUES COMPARISON FOR THE FY 24 ASSESSMENT COMPARED TO FY 23.
YOUR PROPERTY VALUES DID INCREASE BY 6.3%.
NEW CONSTRUCTION REPRESENTS ABOUT 1.7% GROWTH.
THE EQUALIZE TAX RATE IS $0.77.
YOUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS $0.82.
THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF 6.5% OR $0.05.
THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATION TO REDUCE THE CURRENT TAX RATE FROM ITS $0.82.
THE INTRODUCED BUDGET KEPT THE TAX RATE AT $0.82.
AND OUR MOBILE HOME TAX RATE MIRRORS OUR REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE.
THE DOLLAR IMPACT IF THE REAL ESTATE PROPERTY TAX OR THE REAL ESTATE RATE IS LOWERED BY ONE PENNY IS OUTLINED FOR YOU THERE 370,000 FOR REAL PROPERTY.
PUBLIC SERVICE IS JUST UNDER 19,000 AND MOBILE HOME 1353.
YOU WILL HAVE A BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 9TH.
SIGNIFICANT INITIATIVES INCLUDE PAY INCREASES FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
IT INCORPORATES MARKET DRIVEN RANGE INCREASES THAT WERE APPROVED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY ON JANUARY THE 1ST AND ALSO PROVIDES A STEP INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES MANDATED INCREASES FOR OUR STATE SUPPORTED LOCAL EMPLOYEES AND MARKET RE GRADES FOR POSITIONS WHOSE PAY RANGES ARE BELOW REGIONAL MARKET AVERAGES.
AS YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO INVEST TO RETAIN AND ATTRACT TALENTED EMPLOYEES, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP PACE WITH OUR REGIONAL NEIGHBORS AND THE INCREASES THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING AND PROVIDE COMPETITIVE SALARY AND BENEFITS.
MRS WALTON ALLUDED TO IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, THE ADDITION OF OVER 59 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES.
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YOUR FY 24 BUDGET DOES ADD NINE GENERAL FUND POSITIONS FIVE FIRE MEDICS, TWO BENEFITS PEOPLE IN SOCIAL SERVICES, A PLANNING DIRECTOR AND AN APPARATUS TECHNICIAN IN THE GARAGE.ALL OF THESE POSITIONS ARE TARGETED TO IMPROVING SERVICE DELIVERY.
ALSO, WE PLAN SOME SOFTWARE AND SYSTEM ENHANCEMENTS.
UPGRADING TO OFFICE 365 GNAGE OF LEARN, WHICH IS A COST EFFECTIVE ONLINE TRAINING PLATFORM FOR EMPLOYEES AND MOVING TO BOARDDOCS, WHICH IS AN ELECTRONIC BOARD AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
DOLLARS TO COMPLETE THAT PLAN HAVE BEEN BUDGETED.
PHASE ONE OF DEPARTMENT STRATEGIC PLANS ARE ALSO BUDGETED AS OUTLINED IN YOUR COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN.
ALSO, AS CONTINUED CASH FUNDING FOR COUNTY VEHICLES AND SCHOOL BUSSES, INCREASED CONTRIBUTIONS FOR CHILDREN'S SERVICES ACT SERVICES INCREASE IN RIVERSIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AGENCY CONTRIBUTION, AS WELL AS CONTRIBUTIONS TO APPOMATTOX REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM AND CREATOR YOUTH CARE COMMISSION.
THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS NOT IMMUNE TO INFLATIONARY IMPACTS.
THESE ARE THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS ADVERTISED.
YOU PROVIDED AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE AN EFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE ON MARCH 16TH.
IT DID APPEAR IN THE MARCH 23RD EDITION OF THE PROGRESS INDEX.
THERE IS NO BOARD ACTION REQUESTED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU DO NOT PLAN TO EQUALIZE, THERE IS A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL YOUR TAX RATES RIGHT AFTER THIS PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WILL BE ASKING YOU TO ADOPT THE TAX RATES BY ORDINANCE AT THE RECOMMENDED RATES.
THE REQUEST IS $0.82, THE SAME AS THE CURRENT RATE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE EFFECT OF REAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE EQUALIZATION RATE.
SO IT'S A TIME NOW FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS EFFECTIVE REAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
IF ANYONE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, COME FORWARD.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
SO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN, PLEASE.
I BET THIS TIME LILA MYERS 8711 SECOND.
GOOD EVENING. FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW NOW WE MAKE THE SAME COMMENTS IN HERE, THE SAME THINGS ADVERTISED TO THE RESIDENTS THAT THERE'S NO TAX RATE INCREASE.
BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU ARE INCREASING OUR TAXES IN THE TOTAL.
THEN YOU LEAVE US TO DEAL WITH THE STAFF AT THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
SO LAST YEAR YOU OVERTAXED US AT THE RATE OF $0.07 FOR EVERY $100 OF REAL PROPERTY VALUE.
THIS YEAR WE'RE GETTING OVER BY $0.05 ON EVERY $100 OF PROPERTY VALUE.
THE INCREASE IS 6.5% OF THE TAX RATE.
EVEN THOUGH YOUR BUDGET IS ONLY INCREASING BY LESS THAN 5%.
SO YOU'RE TAKING $2 MILLION EXTRA FROM US TO COVER YOUR 3.4 BUDGET INCREASE.
SO IF ONE OF US DOESN'T PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES TO THE PENNY, WE GET THE CHANCE TO LOSING OUR HOUSE FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW OR MORE? WE TOLD YOU THAT YOU NEED TO START CUTTING YOUR EXPENSES, LOOKING INSIDE YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND CUTTING THEM INSTEAD OF USING US AS A COVER UP FOR ALL THESE SPENDING WISH LISTS. IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER FEES THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY INCREASED CHARGES FOR, AND EVERY YEAR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE FINDS A WAY TO EXPLAIN THE HIGH PROPERTY VALUES.
BUT IT ALL STARTS WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU AS A BOARD SET UP THE MUSIC TUNE BY TELLING YOURSELF THAT YOU NEED THE MONEY TO SPEND IT, AND THEN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE DOES THE JOB, TAKING THE MONEY FROM US, THE RESIDENTS.
BUT WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN.
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WE ARE SPEAKING OUT. NOT ENOUGH.THERE ARE APPEALS BEING FILED AND THERE ARE APPEALS BEING FILED TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
TEDIOUS, BURDENSOME ON THE RESIDENTS.
ANYONE ELSE FOR OR AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.
HERE. AND THEN I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENTS.
THANK. NO, IT'S NO ACTION REQUIRED AT THIS.
SO THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED FOR THAT.
A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE FY 2024 TAX LEVIES FOR REAL PROPERTY AND THE 2023 LEVIES FOR TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, MOBILE HOMES, MACHINERY AND TOOLS.
YES. THE COUNTIES INTRODUCED FY 24 BUDGET WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC ON MARCH 14TH.
THE FY 24 BUDGET, AS PRESENTED ON MARCH 15TH, IS 72.37 MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF OVER 3.4 MILLION OR 4.96% OVER YOUR CURRENT YEAR ADOPTED BUDGET.
YOUR ISSUE AND ANALYSIS AND THE PREVIOUS POWERPOINT RECAP THE MAJOR INITIATIVES IN THE BUDGET.
A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED FY 24 TAX RATES WAS AUTHORIZED BY THE BOARD ON MARCH 16TH.
IT APPEARED IN THE APRIL 6TH EDITION OF THE PROGRESS-INDEX AT THE FOLLOWING RATES REAL PROPERTY $0.82 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE.
PERSONAL PROPERTY IS $3.90 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE.
NO CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT YEAR RATE.
MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX WILL REMAIN AT $1.50 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE.
TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, MOBILE HOMES AND MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX BY RESOLUTION.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE EVEN WITH US LEAVING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY RATE AT 390, BECAUSE CAR ASSESSMENTS ARE DOWN, ACTUALLY OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO SEE A REDUCTION IN WHAT THEY PAID IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR.
THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY NOT REALIZE.
ON AVERAGE, MOTOR VEHICLE VALUES WERE DOWN BY 11%, COMPARING THIS YEAR'S BOOK TO LAST YEAR'S.
THAT'S A GOOD THING. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. MR. BROWN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
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YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ONCE AGAIN A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE FY 2024 TAX FOR OUR COUNTY.
HAVE WE HAD ANYONE SIGN UP, MISS KNOTT? NO, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHMENT OF 2024 TAX LEVIES FOR REAL PROPERTY AND 2023 LEVIES FOR TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, MOBILE HOMES AND MACHINERY AND TOOL TAX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
THAT'S ALL OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS]
SERVICES. GOOD EVENING.GOOD EVENING, SIR. CHAIRMAN HUNTER.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. MR. STOKE. MR. MARCUS, I STAND FOR YOU TONIGHT.
APPARENTLY WHEN WE APPROVED THE BUDGET TO DO THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR THE CONVENIENCE STATION IN THEIR DESIGN, THEY HAVE.
THEY HAVE A RETAINING WALL THAT'S LIKE UNION BRANCH WITH THE DUMPSTER SIT BELOW THE RETAINING WALL AND THEY DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT DESIGN COST IN THEIR FEES THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US.
AND THEY'VE ALSO MADE ME AWARE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OTHER CHANGE ORDERS MOVES FOR THIS PROJECT AS FAR AS THERE'S BEEN.
THEY CONSULTED WITH VDOT BEFORE THE PROJECT STARTED AND VDOT HAS NOW COME BACK AND SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND A TURN LANE TURN LANE STUDY BEFORE IT'S APPROVED.
AND ALSO THE THEY OVERLOOKED THE ISSUE THAT THERE WAS NO WATER AND SEWER ON THE SITE.
SO NOW THE WELL AND SEPTIC HAS TO BE DESIGNED FOR THE SITE.
THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT EARLIER PLANNING MEETINGS, BUT THEY DIDN'T THEY WOULDN'T PUT IN A SITE PLAN.
SO THESE ARE SOME CHANGE ORDERS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO US ONCE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OTHER AT LEAST THOSE TWO CHANGE ORDERS COMING TO YOU SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I GOT ONE. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I HAVE A COMMENT.
IT'S NOT. BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
IT IS. HOW ARE YOU IN THE BUSINESS TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT SITES AND MISS STUFF LIKE THAT? IN MY WORLD, THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CHANGE ORDER AMOUNT'S GOING TO BE.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ECHOES THE COMMENT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE HIRING PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE TO DO A JOB.
I CAN UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'RE NOW BRINGING TO THE TABLE THAT WE HADN'T DISCLOSED, BUT THESE COMPANIES ARE PAID GOOD MONEY TO GO THROUGH AND EVALUATE THINGS AND THESE CHANGE ORDERS.
I'M JUST I'M SHAKING MY HEAD TODAY OVER.
I GOT SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH THIS THIS WATER.
I MEAN, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'M DEALING WITH THE SAME, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SAME THING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE MEET AHEAD OF TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE ONE CHANGE ORDER THAT'S COMING REGARDING THE TURN LANE STUFF, WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AHEAD OF TIME AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS WOULD BE NO WOULD NOT WARRANT THAT ANALYSIS.
AND NOW WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT BEFORE IT CAN BE APPROVED, WE HAVE TO DO THE ANALYSIS.
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SO I REMEMBER YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT.AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED.
I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOARD, THE ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS STOOD RIGHT HERE AND SAID, YOU KNOW, STATED TO THE BOARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH VDOT AND IT WOULDN'T BE ANY COST WITH THAT.
BUT NOW WE'RE THEY GAVE YOU THAT IN WRITING.
AND I GUESS I'M MORE CONCERNED OVER THE WELL ACCEPTING.
I MEAN, I GET THE VDOT STUDY AND IT KIND OF.
IF YOU WANT VDOT TO APPROVE IT, YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY SAY.
OH, THAT WAS WE DON'T HAVE IT DISCUSSED.
IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT AND THAT THERE WAS NO COUNTY WATER AND SEWER THERE.
AND ACTUALLY WE HAD A 60% DRAWING THE DESIGN MEETING LAST WEEK.
AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
WHERE'S THE WATER AND SEWER? OH, WE'RE GOING TO USE COUNTY WATER AND SEWER.
I SAID, THERE'S NO WATER AND SEWER THERE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE WELL AND SEPTIC THE SAME DISCUSSION WE HAD FROM BEFORE.
SO ANYHOW, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN OVER A YEAR JUST TRYING TO GET THE DESIGN.
MR SIMONS I'M GOING TO BE REAL OPEN WITH YOU.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS FOR AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO MISS THE KEY ITEMS. KEY ITEMS. THE.ONE, I UNDERSTAND.
WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY THEN.
I UNDERSTAND. I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
THAT'S FOUR MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.
IN MY WORLD, THAT WOULD I'D BE LOOKING FOR A JOB.
MY WORLD. IT COST YOU YOUR JOB, NOT YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S MY COMMENT, MR. CHAIR. WELL.
THERE'S A RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET.
WELL, I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I'M ON BOARD WITH WHERE MR WEBB IS COMING FROM.
IF FOR SOME REASON WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, THEN WHAT OPTIONS ARE WE LEFT WITH? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER CHANGE ORDERS POTENTIALLY COMING.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE REALIZED THEY NEEDED THIS WALL.
IF THEY HAD GONE AND LOOKED AT THE OTHER SITE.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR.
I SAY WE LOOK FOR ANOTHER FIRM, YOU KNOW.
SO. OKAY, I WAS JUST TRYING TO WE HAVE VESTED IN THAT FIRM.
WE HAVE NOW. HOW MUCH HAVE WE ALREADY PAID? HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT? MR SIMMONS I'M NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THE FIGURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
MR DREWRY DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE INVOICES? AND WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT FOR US TO HOLD THEM TO THAT? WELL, THEY BEAR WELL, LEGAL SITTING HERE.
THEY SHOULD BEAR SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE MRS. WELL, IF THEY DID NOT COMPLY WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS, THEN THEY HAVEN'T REALLY MET THE CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO INDUSTRY STANDARDS WOULD BE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE MADE A REVIEW OF THE SITE CONDITIONS AND DESIGNED A PROJECT THAT WILL FIT WITHIN THE SITE CONDITIONS. AND SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
NOW, THE OTHER THING I GUESS IS THAT YOU WERE INDICATING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO COME FORWARD WITH MORE CHANGE ORDERS, BUT YOU DIDN'T GET ANY SENSE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT COST YOU, CORRECT? EXACTLY RIGHT.
BUT EVEN STILL, I THINK THAT THESE FOUR MAJOR THINGS, I THINK LEAVE A WHOLE LOT TO BE CONSIDERED SO WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT. WE CAN DELAY IT.
WE EVEN CONSIDERED PULLING IT FROM THE PULLING IT FROM TONIGHT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS AND THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE US A PRICE TO DO THE DESIGN WORK AND THEN WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT WHAT WE WANTED TO DESIGN.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE'VE GOT VESTED RIGHT NOW TO MR CARMICHAEL COMMENT.
AND IF WE'RE NOT TOO DEEP IN IT, WE NEED TO CUT TIES.
WE HAVE PREPARED A PURCHASE ORDER TO GUERNSEY TANGLE FOR $121,118.65, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
YOU SAID PREPARED. HAS IT BEEN ISSUED YET? WE HAVE ISSUED THAT PURCHASE ORDER.
YES, SIR. THAT WAS ISSUED IN AUGUST OF 22.
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ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO REFRAME REPHRASE MY QUESTION.ILLEGAL. BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MEET THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS CONTRACTUALLY.
DO WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE ON THAT 121? WELL, I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO USE WHATEVER THE VALUE IS OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE 122,000.
NOW, IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT VENDOR.
SO THAT'S ABOUT YOUR ONLY RECOURSE, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUE THEM AND GET 122,000 BACK.
WELL, WE HAVE NOT PAID THAT YET, CORRECT? WE'VE NOT FULLY LIQUIDATED.
WE HAVE PAID THEM $42,716.67 TO DATE.
THEY WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR THAT PURCHASE ORDER AMOUNT? YES, SIR. WE LEGALLY PUT A HOLD ON IT.
WELL, THEN YOUR OPTION BECOMES TERMINATING THEM WITH ONLY PARTIAL COMPLETION.
SO YOU COULD YOU WOULD BE ABOUT TO SAY WE HAVE $47,000, BUT WE ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
YOU DIDN'T COMPLY, SO WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE IT.
THE COST IS ON WHAT THEY PROMISED HIM ON FRIDAY.
WELL, THEY MIGHT. THEY MAY DECIDE WHEN THEY HEAR YOU THAT MAYBE THE CHANGE ORDER, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE THE SAME NUMBER THAT THEY WOULD HAVE DONE NORMALLY RIGHT OUTSIDE UP HERE FOR YEARS AND ARGUED.
PROJECTS NEED TO BE FULL SCOPE WITH A PLUS OR -10% PLUS 10%.
IT'S UP TO THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD.
I'M NOT INCLINED TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN STOP PAYMENT RIGHT NOW AND STOP.
SOMETIMES THEY'LL TELL YOU, WELL, WE DON'T TRUST THESE PEOPLE.
WE'VE GOT TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. IF I WAS SITTING HERE, I'D AGREE WITH THEM.
STILL THAT COULD BE VALIDATED WAS LIKE 16,000.
I THINK THAT WAS COST WAS LIKE 16,000.
AND THE GEOTECHNICAL WORK SHOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR ANYBODY.
LET MR. SIMMONS AND MR. STOKES GET WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.
YEAH, AT LEAST THE MR DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM STOP.
NO. YOU COULD STOP PAYMENT NOW.
OKAY? AND YOU CAN DEFER ANY ACTION ON THE CHANGE ORDER REQUEST.
OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE REQUESTED THAT THE COMPANY COME ON MAY 9TH AT THE BOARD MEETING.
THEY DECLINED, SAYING THEY HAD A CONFLICT.
I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TAKE THIS A ONE ORDER OF BUSINESS AND POSTPONE IT TO MAY 23RD, ALLOWING TIME FOR MR. SIMMONS TO REACH OUT TO THE COMPANY TO, ONE, GET AN EXPLANATION, EXPLAIN OUR SIDE OF THE STORY, AND ALSO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT ABOUT THE STOP PAYMENT? YEAH, WELL, THAT'S PART OF IT.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE OR TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE MAY 23RD MEETING, AND I'LL SECOND IT WITH THOSE WITH THAT CONDITION STATED.
YES. WHICH INCLUDES NO PAYMENT AND NO FUTURE PAYMENT.
ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL ON A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO MAY 23RD.
ANY FURTHER ACTION ON THIS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. NOW ON YOU, MR. SIMMONS. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO THE RIGHT.
MR. I DO PROJECT WORK ALL THE TIME.
ALL RIGHT. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO MAY 9TH MEETING.
WHOMEVER. WE GOT A MOTION BY MR. WEBB AND A SECOND BY MR. BROWN. OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
DOESN'T MATTER. ANY COMMENTS? CALL THE ROLL.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
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