>> I NOW CALL THE SIX O'CLOCK WORK SESSION TO ORDER.
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AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MR. JEFF STOKES.>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN CARMICHAEL, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WE'RE ON ITEM O-1A, ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING RESOLUTION, ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2023.
NOMINATIONS WILL BE RECORDED AND VOTED UPON IN THE ORDER THEY ARE RECEIVED.
NOMINATIONS WILL BE READ BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND PER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
I NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN.
>> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I NOMINATE MR. DONALD HUNTER AS CHAIRMAN FOR 2023.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? I NOW CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN AND WILL CALL FOR A VOTE IN THE ORDER WHICH THE NOMINATIONS ARE RECEIVED, THE ONLY ONE BEING FOR MR. DONALD HUNTER FOR CHAIRMAN.
I'D ASK MS. NOTT TO CALL THE ROLL.
>> CONGRATULATIONS, CHAIRMAN HUNTER.
>> ITEM O-1B: ELECTION OF A VICE CHAIRMAN FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2023.
NOMINATIONS WILL BE RECORDED AND VOTED UPON IN THE ORDER THEY ARE RECEIVED.
NOMINATIONS WILL BE READ BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND PER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
I NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.
>> MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE THE NAME OF MR. T.J. WEBB.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN? I NOW CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN AND WILL CALL FOR A VOTE IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THE NOMINATION WAS RECEIVED.
THE ONLY ONE BEING RECEIVED WAS FOR MR. T.J. WEBB FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.
I'D ASK MS. THERESA NOTT TO CALL THE ROLL.
>> CONGRATULATIONS, VICE CHAIR WEBB.
I NOW TURN THE MEETING OVER TO CHAIRMAN DONALD HUNTER WITH O-2, ADOPTION OF THE 2023 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BYLAWS.
THANK YOU, BOARD FOR THIS HONOR OF BEING ELECTED AS CHAIR.
FIRST THING WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA IS RESOLUTION FOR THE BOARD TO BY-LAWS, O-2.
I THINK MR. WITTEN, ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THOSE, SIR?
>> YES. I BELIEVE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SUGGESTED, BUT I'LL GO OVER THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET.
THE FIRST CHANGE IS ON PAGE 3, SECTION 4.
THE CODE SECTION IN THE VIRGINIA CODE HAS CHANGED FROM 2.23708.2 TO 2.2-3708.3.
THE NEXT CHANGES THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE STATE CODE THAT STATES IF THE MEMBER'S PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE IS MORE THAN 60 MILES AWAY FROM THE MEETING LOCATION, THE MEMBER CAN PARTICIPATE REMOTELY.
THIS WILL BE PRETTY RARE THIS WOULD COME UP.
THIS MIGHT BE IF THE BOARD WAS AT A CONFERENCE, SAY, AT THE HOMESTEAD AND THEY DECIDED THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A MEETING THERE, THEN ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER WHO WAS STILL ON PRINCE GEORGE COULD CALL INTO THE MEETING.
THIS AMENDMENT TO THE STATE CODE WAS MADE MORE FOR BOARDS OF VISITORS FOR UNIVERSITIES THAT LIVE IN OTHER STATES, BUT I INCLUDED IT IN THERE IN OUR BYLAWS FOR THE RARE OCCURRENCE THAT IT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
PREVIOUSLY, MEETINGS HELD THROUGH ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION MEANS DURING STATES OF EMERGENCY, THAT WAS THE SAME SECTION AS PARTICIPATION BY ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION MEANS, BUT SINCE THEY'VE SPLIT IT UP IN THE STATE CODE INTO TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS, I ALSO SPLIT IT UP IN OUR BY-LAWS.
IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION 6A, IT STATES, IN ACCORDANCE WITH VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2-3708.2,
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THAT WOULD ALLOW MEETINGS DURING A STATE OF EMERGENCY.IT STATES THE PROVISIONS UNDER THE SECTION ARE ONLY APPLICABLE FOR THE DURATION OF THE EMERGENCY.
THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE STATE CODE THAT ALLOWED VIRTUAL MEETINGS FOR CERTAIN PUBLIC BODIES, BUT THAT DID NOT INCLUDE A GOVERNING BODY SUCH AS YOURSELVES.
THE OTHER AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED BY THE BOARD IS IN SECTION 3D.
CURRENTLY, IT STATES IF ANY BOARD MEMBER MEETS A STAFF, THE SUBSTANTIVE CONTENT OF THE MEETING WOULD BE COMMUNICATED TO THE ENTIRE BOARD IN A TIMELY MANNER BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS MYSELF, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
THERE'S A SUGGESTION THAT WE ADDED A SENTENCE THAT BASICALLY STATES IF A COUNTY ATTORNEY MEETS WITH A BOARD MEMBER, THE SUBSTANTIVE CONTENT OF THE MEETING WOULD BE COMMUNICATED TO THE ENTIRE BOARD BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY RATHER THAN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND MYSELF ARE THE ONLY EMPLOYEES OF THE BOARD.
IT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR THAT COMMUNICATION TO COME DIRECTLY FROM ME RATHER THAN THROUGH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
>> SORRY. AND MS. NOTT. CORRECT.
>> NOW FOR MS. NOTT, THAT WOULD STILL GO THROUGH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS MET WITH HER OR CAUGHT HER ON THE PHONE, SHE WOULD NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO MR. STOKE.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER SUGGESTED CHANGES BY THE BOARD THAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS AT THIS POINT?
>> [OVERLAPPING] I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND LETTING THEM CLEAN THESE UP AND SEND THEM BACK OUT TO US AND LET US REVIEW THEM AND WE CAN ADOPT THEM IN THE NEXT MEETING.
>> YOU WANT TO POSTPONE THE RESOLUTION UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING?
>> THAT'LL BE THE 24TH WILL BE THE NEXT MEETING OF THE BOARD.
>> THE RESOLUTION WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL JANUARY THE 24TH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MEETING.
>> WE JUST NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND IN A VOTE ON THAT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> THANK YOU. AS I SAID, THAT'LL BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
NEXT IS THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS '23 MEETINGS SCHEDULE.
>> THE ONLY ADDITION THAT I HAVE TO THAT MEETING SCHEDULE WOULD BE THAT THE SCHEDULE WOULD REFLECT A REORGANIZATION MEETING TO BE ON JANUARY THE 2ND OF 2024, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE NEW YEAR.
I THINK RIGHT NOW IT ONLY REFLECTS THE FIRST BUSINESS MEETING BEING THE 9TH OF JANUARY.
>> CAN YOU PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION?
>> YES, SIR. I SO MOVE THAT WE MODIFY THE MEETING SCHEDULED TO REFLECT A REORGANIZATIONAL MEETING TO BE ON JANUARY THE 2ND OF 2024.
>> I THINK MRS. NOTT HAS A POINT.
>> YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.
>> FIVE O'CLOCK GOOD WITH EVERYBODY?
>> AT 5:00 P.M. I AMEND THAT MOTION TO SAY AT 5:00 P.M.
NEXT O4 IS THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE.
I THINK WE FOLLOW THE STATE, BUT WE NEED A MOTION TO PUT THAT INTO MINUTES.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I'M IN ORDER, I SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD MAKE THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE FOR THE COUNTY TO BE TO MATCH WITH THAT OF THE STATE FOR THE YEAR OF 2023.
>> ANY DISCUSSION? HERE KNOW, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?
>> NEXT WE HAVE SOME BOARDS TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS FOR ONE YEAR TERM FOR THE CRATER DISTRICT PLANNING COMMISSION.
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AND I THINK MRS. WAYMACK HAS FILLED UP POSITION IN THE PAST.>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE IF MRS. WAYMACK WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, I NOMINATE HER TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THIS COMMISSION.
ANY DISCUSSION? NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> NEXT BE UNDER O5 IS RESIDUES TO POINT THEM TO THE BOARD FOR THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE STATE MR. WEBB HAS [OVERLAPPING] FILLED THAT IN THE PAST.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. WEBB HAS SERVED IN THAT POSITION IN THE PAST, SO IF HE'S WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPOINT HIM AS THE MPO.
>> HE INDICATES THAT HE WILL SO CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] JUST ONE THING I JUST WANT TO GO BACK BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S IN OUR BYLAWS.
[OVERLAPPING] WHEN YOU ABSTAIN, WE HAVE TO GIVE A REASON FOR IT.
>> I'LL MAKE A GENERAL STATEMENT.
I'M NOT IN THE HABIT OF VOTING FOR MYSELF.
THAT WAS THE BOARD THAT SPOKE.
I JUST ACCEPTED THE POSITION. THAT'S MY REASON.
>> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S IN THE BYLAWS, I SHOULD HAVE STIPULATED.
I'VE SEEN THIS FOR OVER GETTING KIND OF CROSS-SIDE WONDERING WHAT I WAS DOING.
[NOISE] THAT'S THE REASON FOR IT.
>> NEXT, C. APPOINTMENT OF ONE-YEAR TERM FOR THE MEMBER FOR THE GATEWAY REGION, AND I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON THAT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
>> WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WOULD CONTINUE NOMINATE THAT YOU CONTINUE WITH THIS.
>> YOU'RE THE FIRST SECOND. HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> I WOULD NEED A MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE LED PC LOCAL EMERGENCY PLANNING COMMISSION.
MR. BROWN HAS AND IS CURRENTLY SERVING AS A MEMBER ON THAT COMMITTEE.
>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. BROWN IF HE'S WILLING TO CONTINUE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> ABSTAIN FOR THE SAME REASON; NOT VOTING FOR MYSELF.
WE'LL GO INTO RECESS NOW UNTIL THE 07:00 O'CLOCK BUSINESS MEETING.
[REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING]
I'LL CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER AT 07:00 O'CLOCK.NOW, THE REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING, WE'VE BEEN ON RECESS.
BEFORE WE DO THE INVOCATION, I FIRST WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR HAVING THE CONFIDENCE IN ME TO ELECT ME AS CHAIR AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE VICE CHAIR, TJ WEB IN HIS POSITION.
I WANT TO THANK MR. CARMICHAEL IN HIS SHORT STINT AS CHAIRMAN, BUT MOST ESPECIALLY MRS. WAYMACK IN HER LAST YEAR AS CHAIRMAN AND THE GOOD JOB SHE DID.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT.
WELCOME TO THE MEETING TONIGHT.
I MAY ASK MRS. WAYMACK IF SHE WILL LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.
>> OUR MOST GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, CREATOR OF ALL THAT DWELL WITHIN.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU HAVE GIVEN TO US THIS PAST YEAR, AND WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US BLESSINGS GOING FORWARD AND GUIDE US, GUIDE THIS BOARD AS THEY GO FORWARD INTO A NEW YEAR WITH NEW THINGS THAT THEY MUST DO AND HOPEFULLY GOOD THINGS FOR THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE.
IN YOUR HOLY NAME, WE PRAY. AMEN.
ASK MR. CARMICHAEL TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
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>> THANK YOU, MR. CARMICHAEL. [NOISE].
>>I WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP,
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
DO WE NOT, MRS. NOT.>> YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE MR. PETE STIFF.
>> MR. STIFF, COME FORWARD, SIR.
GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE 4 MIN TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS PETE STIFF AND I CONGRATULATE YOU AS THE CHAIRMAN.
>> YOU GO GIVE ME FOUR MINUTES, I MIGHT AS WELL SING A SONG BEFORE [NOISE] I GO ON HERE.
I AM FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY BY WAY OF JARED.
>> BUT I AM TEMPORARILY HELPING THE 408 CENTER DOWN AT WAKEFIELD, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE BEEN A GREAT SUPPORTER OF.
TONIGHT, I WANT TO BRING TO YOU AND INTRODUCE YOU TO DR. KATHY GRANDIN WHO WE STOLE OUT OF FLORIDA.
SHE WAS TIRED OF ALL THOSE WEATHER CONDITIONS.
SHE WANTED TO COME TO CENTRAL VIRGINIA, WHICH IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE SAFEST PLACES IN THE WORLD TO LIVE.
WE HAVE HER HERE AND SHE'S GOING TO FOLLOW ME TO THE PODIUM, BUT I DON T THINK SHE WOULD TAKE ALL OF HER FOUR MINUTES AND I'M NOT GOING TO USE ALL OF MINE.
BUT I DO HAVE A LITTLE GIFT THAT I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU.
FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, THIS IS UNDER $50, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DECLARE IN THEIR DISCLOSURE.
[LAUGHTER] THESE ARE FINE PEANUTS FROM THE CENTER.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EAT THEM VERY QUICKLY.
WHEN YOU DO, YOU THEN HAVE TO TAKE THE EMPTY BAG AND PUT IT ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR WITH A MAGNET ON IT, SO THAT YOU'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER HAVING, I HAVE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE.
THESE PEANUTS [INAUDIBLE] WE DIDN'T GROW THESE.
WE WANT TO JUST THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU IN FRONT OF US CITIZENS.
I KNOW THAT DR. GRANDIN THEN IS GOING TO COME IN AND INTRODUCE HERSELF TO YOU AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL FIND AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN TO THE CENTER SOMETIMES AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT 218 ACRES OF PROPERTY DOWN THERE THAT IS VERY ENJOYABLE, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE DR. GRANDIN TO THE MIC. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> [BACKGROUND] THANK YOU, DR. GRANDIN.
I COME HERE FROM FLORIDA, BELIEVE IT OR NOT AND WHEN I LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, I'M DRIVING STRAIGHT THERE, HOPEFULLY, AS LONG AS I MAKE IT AWAKE, THEN I'LL PULL OVER.
I WAS THERE 27 YEARS WORKING WITH FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE.
BUT I'M CURRENTLY THE CENTER DIRECTOR AT AIRFIELD FOR 4H CENTER OR THE SOUTHEAST FOR 4H CENTER IN SUSSEX COUNTY, WAKEFIELD.
I'M SUPER EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE TEAM.
PEOPLE ASKED ME WHY I WOULD COME HERE FROM FLORIDA.
BUT FOR ME I DID MISS THE SEASONS.
IT'S CLOSER TO MY FAMILY AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE TEAM TO HELP BRING SOME REJUVENATION AND LIFE BACK TO AIRFIELD.
SOME FOLKS HAVE CALLED IT A DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HELP IT SHINE. THIS IS TRUE.
OUR AGENT, HERMAN, HE CAME OUT TONIGHT TO BE HERE WITH ME.
HE'S ONE OF THE FIRST AGENT FOLKS I MET WITH VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION AT A MEETING.
WE JUST HOT OFF THE PRESS TODAY, GOT SOME RETURN ON INVESTMENT STATEMENTS ABOUT THE 4H CENTER, AND I'M GOING TO ASK HERMAN TO HAND THOSE OUT.
YOU'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF LITTLE FACT-BASED BITS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE VALUE OF OUR CENTER TO THE COMMUNITY.
PRINCE GEORGE IS ONE OF THE 15 COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT WE SERVE.
I JUST WANT TO REALLY QUICKLY SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE VISION THAT I SEE FOR THIS CENTER MOVING FORWARD.
ONE OF THEM IS 4H IS KNOWN AS CAMP.
THE 4H CAMP AT AIRFIELD IS VERY WELL KNOWN.
HERMAN ACTUALLY HE WAS OUR NUMBER 2 BIGGEST CAMP WEEK.
SORRY, YOU CAME IN SECOND PLACE.
>> HONESTLY I CAME IN SECOND PLACE IN THREE YEARS.
>> THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AND THAT'S ONE OF MY GOALS IS TO FILL ALL THE BUNKS.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE GETTING BETTER.
OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THOSE BUNKS GET FILLED SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A SUSTAINABLE CAMP.
WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH THE AIRFIELD CONFERENCE CENTER AND PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME AND RUN OUT THE FACILITIES.
WE'VE HAD FAMILY REUNIONS, WEDDINGS, SOME BIG BANQUETS.
WE HAVE ON MARTIN LUTHER KING WEEKEND ON SATURDAY.
WE ARE EXPECTING 300 FOLKS THERE FOR A BIG BREAKFAST.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER GROUP OF TEENS COMING IN FROM A JUDAISM GROUP, AND THERE'S QUILTERS THAT SHOWED UP TODAY.
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IT'LL BE ON-SITE THROUGH THE WEEKEND.WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE.
THEN MY GOAL FOR MOVING FORWARD IS TO REALLY START TO BUILD AIRFIELD OUT INTO A DESTINATION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL OUTDOOR EDUCATION.
IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE PROPERTY, PLEASE COME.
BECAUSE IT'S 200 ACRES OF WOODS, 100 ACRES OF WATER.
I'M SUPER EXCITED TO BE THERE AND TO REALLY START TO BUILD UP THESE PROGRAMS, TO REACH OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES TO GET THE KIDS COMING IN AND BY KIDS I CONSIDER MYSELF A KID AT HEART.
I THINK THIS IS WHY I'M A GOOD FIT FOR THE CENTER.
OUR PROGRAMS WILL BE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.
FOLKS LIKE HERMAN ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO REALLY HELP GET THAT PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING AND EXPANDING INTO OUR SCHOOLS AND INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.
IF YOU'RE EVER IN THE AREA, PLEASE STOP IN. I MEAN, I'M THERE.
RIGHT NOW I'M ACTUALLY STAYING ON CAMPUS UNTIL THEY FIND A PLACE TO LIVE.
STOP BY FOR A TOUR, STOP BY FOR LUNCH.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SHOW YOU AROUND AND SHOW YOU MY NEW HOME IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE AND IF YOU HAVE, WE'RE GIVING IT A FACE LIFT AND THERE'S SOME SMALL COOL CHANGES HAPPENING.
PLEASE STOP BY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, HERMAN, FOR COMING ON OUT. [LAUGHTER].
>> I WILL SAY THIS MR. STOKE HAS CHILDREN, THEY GO TO CAMP AND EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD IS ALWAYS A BIG SUPPORTER OF MR. CARMICHAEL'S CHILDREN HAVE GONE INTO CAMP.
THEY LOVE PRINCE GEORGE 4-H AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN OUR CORNER.
I WOULD TELL YOU FOLKS, I'VE GOT HIGH HOPES WERE CATHY AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING AIRFIELD BACKUP TO THE STANDARDS WHERE WE USED TO CALL IT THE HILTON IN THE WOODS.
>> THANK YOU HERMAN. [APPLAUSE].
>> VERY NICE PRESENTATION IS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR.
IT'S STILL PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.
ANYBODY THAT HAS A COMMENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME TO BEFORE THE BOARD, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR.
MY NAME IS LARRY HIDORNE 1909 CHUMAN ROAD SOUTH PRINCE GEORGE.
I WANT TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT PICKLE BALL.
PICKLE BALL IS THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN AMERICA.
IT SEEMS LIKE PRINCE GEORGE IS TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PLAYERS THAT WE HAVE.
TWO WEEKS AGO, THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS PUT A 15-YEAR LIMIT ON PICKLE BALL.
IF YOU ARE YOUNGER THAN THE AGE OF 15, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY PICKLE BALL IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY.
THERE IS A SELECT GROUP AND OUR GROUP OF 50 USUALLY WE GET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 30.
TONIGHT ACTUALLY IS THE FIRST EVENING FOR YOU WORKING PEOPLE.
ALL OF THE OTHER GROUP IS RETIREES.
AT NO TIME HAS THERE EVER BEEN A PLAYER UNDER THE AGE OF 15 THAT COMES TO PLAY PICKLE BALL UNATTENDED.
THEY CAN'T DRIVE SO EITHER A PARENT OR GRANDPARENT IS COMING WITH THEM AND PLAYING WITH THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
HE'S BEEN PLAYING FOR TWO YEARS UP UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO AND HE CAN'T PLAY IN PRINCE GEORGE ANYMORE.
THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 14 ARE IN SCHOOL, SO THEY'RE IN SCHOOL EIGHT MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR SO THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PLAY IN THE MORNING SESSION TWO WEEKS DURING CHRISTMAS, ONE WEEK IN SPRING BREAK A THAT BRINGS US TO SUMMERTIME.
WELL, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY IN SUMMERTIME, BUT REMEMBER, THEY HAVE A GUARDIAN THERE WITH THEM.
BUT THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER THINGS.
THEY'RE GOING TO SPORTS CAMPS.
MY GRANDSON GOES TO THE 4-H CAMP AND THEY HAVE FAMILY VACATIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY ARE TIED UP INTO AND SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO RESTRICT THE AGE TO 15.
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I LIVE IN 1109 CALLING WOOD DRIVE AND THIS IS ABOUT OUR MILE.
I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.
I'VE TALKED TO I WON'T SAY THE NAMES OF COURSE.
THIS LAST PERIOD, WE'VE BEEN CHARGED FOR 45,000 GALLONS OF WATER.
MY NEIGHBOR, THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO ME WAS CHARGED 25,000.
COMBINED, IT'S ABOUT 70,000 GALLONS IN TWO MONTHS.
I WENT THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
I TALKED TO THE CLERK, THE SUPERVISOR, THE HEAD OF UTILITIES, AND THEY ALL TOLD ME IT'S A LEAK.
IF YOU DO THE MATH, IT'S ABOUT 300 GALLONS AN HOUR FOR 60 DAYS 24/7.
IF THERE WAS ANY WATER LEAKING FROM MY HOUSE OR MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE.
THE ONLY PERSON I'VE TALKED TO, WHICH I CAN SAY OFF THE RECORD, HE TOLD ME IT WAS A LEAK AND THE EASIEST WAY SO THIS IS WHY I'M HERE, THE EASIEST WAY HE COULD FIX IT IS ME BRING AN INVOICE THAT I FIXED THE FLAP IN THE TOILET.
I SAID, SIR, THIS DOES NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE.
SOMETHING GOES IN MY HOUSE, SOMETHING HAS TO COME OUT.
HE SAYS BRING ME THAT AND WE CAN CHANGE YOUR BILL.
AT THIS TIME. I LOOKED AT THE POLICY AND SAYS THEY CAN ONLY DO A LEAK REVERSAL OR CHANGE ONCE A CALENDAR YEAR. I EXPLAINED TO THEM.
WHAT HAPPENS GOD FORBID, A REAL LEAK HAPPENS.
I'M STUCK WITH THAT BILL BECAUSE I WENT THE EASY WAY.
MEREDITH DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE PRAYER.
AS THE BIBLE SAID, THREE WISE MEN SAYS, FINE TO SEEK THE TRUTH.
I HOPE YOU GUYS CALL ME 302-604-0947, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND THE TRUTH. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT? SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS BY ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD ADOPT THE AGENDA AS SO STATED.
>> I WILL RETRACT THAT MOTION AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS ONE ADDITION TO THE AGENDA WHICH IS A15 WHICH IS A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE FLOOD PLAIN. THAT'S MY MOTION.
>> WITH THE ADDITION OF A 15, WHICH IS ON OUR BLUE SHEET, BUT AT ANY RATE, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
ORDER OF CONSENSUS IS NEXT ON THE AGENDA.
[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ACCEPTING THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS AND LISTEN UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO PULL ONE.MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OR ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENSUS AGENDA, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT AS PRESENTED.
>> WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT FOR MRS. LAURA CHAMBLISS.
[PRESENTATIONS]
LAURA, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD AND ACCEPT YOUR PRESENTATION.MRS. WAYMACK WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
>> COME UP HERE LAURA, EVERYBODY CAN SEE YOU THAT WAY.
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>> MRS. CHAMBLISS, CONGRATULATIONS [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PRESENTATION BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AGREED TO SING.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S OKAY, WE WON'T MAKE YOU SING IF YOU SUFFER, OKAY? MRS. CHAMBLISS IS RETIRING, IT'S A HAPPY TIME.
WHEREAS LAURA CHAMBLISS WHO WAS ORIGINALLY HIRED ON AUGUST 1, 2004, AS SOCIAL SERVICES PROGRAM ASSISTANT AND WHEREAS LAURA CHAMBLISS WAS RECLASSIFIED TO THE POSITION OF SOCIAL SERVICES ASSOCIATE 1 ON DECEMBER 16TH, 2007 AND RECLASSIFIED AS THE OFFICE ASSOCIATE 2 ON MAY 16TH, 2012 AND WAS LATER PROMOTED TO THE POSITION OF ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT SPECIALIST THIRD ON JULY 1, 2018, AND REMAINED IN THIS CAPACITY UNTIL SHE RETIRED ON JANUARY 1, 2023.
WHEREAS MRS. CHAMBLISS WORKED TIRELESSLY IN SERVING THE FAMILIES OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND IN PROVIDING SUPPORT TO STAFF AND THE CITIZENS AND WHEREAS MRS. CHAMBLISS ASSISTED WITH COMMUNITY EVENTS, SUCH AS BACK TO SCHOOL FAIR, HARBOR FAIR, AND CARES.
WHEREAS MRS. CHAMBLISS SERVED AS A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM THROUGH THE AGES AND WHEREAS MRS. CHAMBLISS COMMITMENT TO CLIENTS AND STAFF HAS EARNED THE ADMIRATION AND RESPECT OF THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, HER COLLEAGUES AND THE CITIZENS FOR HER DEDICATION AND ENTHUSIASM, PROFESSIONALISM AND HARD WORK.
WHEREAS MRS. CHAMBLISS DEMONSTRATED INTEGRITY THROUGHOUT HER CAREER, CONTINUOUSLY DEVOTING HER ACTIONS TO DEVELOPMENT OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
WHEREAS THROUGHOUT HER REMARKABLE CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE, SPANNING A COMBINED TOTAL OF MORE THAN 26 YEARS, LAURA CHAMBLISS HAS SERVED THE CITIZENS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY TO THE UTMOST ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OVER 18 YEARS OF HER CAREER, DEMONSTRATING COMMITMENT, INTEGRITY AND DEVOTION AND A MANNER BESPEAKING THE DEDICATION OF A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT.
MRS. CHAMBLISS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT WILL BE SORELY MISSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, THE COUNTY AND IT'S CITIZENS.
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE, THIS 10TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2023 DOES HEREBY COMMEND LAURA.
L. CHAMBLISS FOR COMPLETION OF MORE THAN 26 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE IN HER PROFESSION AND MORE THAN 18 YEARS OF HER SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS BOARD WISHES TO EXTEND TO MRS. CHAMBLISS MUCH HAPPINESS AND CONTINUED SUCCESS AS SHE ENTERS THE NEXT PHASE OF HER LIFE.
SIGNED BY DONALD HUNTER, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND JEFFREY STOKE, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
[APPLAUSE] WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GIVE ALL PRAISE TO GOD.
MY FAMILY, SOCIAL SERVICES, HAS BEEN ONE OF THE GREATEST GROUP OF PEOPLE, MEN AND WOMEN THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN A LONG TIME.
I CAN'T EXPRESS HOW I FEEL KNOWING THAT WE WERE ALL FAMILY, IF YOU HURT, THEY HURT.
I JUST WANT TO THANK THE BOARD.
I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY FOR ALLOWING ME TO PROVIDE MY SERVICES.
I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE, THIS PAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
MY HUSBAND PASSED IN 2019 AND I KNOW HE'S LOOKING DOWN ON ME AND HE'S VERY HAPPY.
I HAVE TO SAY TO COUNTY, YOU ALL STOOD BY ME THROUGH A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME, DURING HIS ILLNESS, DURING HIS PASSING, AND YOU NEVER LEFT ME.
I HAVE TO SAY, WHEN HE PASSED THEN THE PANDEMIC CAME, AND WITH BEING ALL ALONE DURING THOSE TIMES IN THE HOUSE,
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COME TO WORK, BUT THE SUPPORT THAT THE COUNTY SHOWED ME AND THE SUPPORT THAT MY COWORKERS GAVE ME, I COULDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING MORE.I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AS A COUNTY, I WANT TO THANK YOU AS LEADERS.
THE LEADERSHIP HERE HAS REALLY, REALLY BEEN A PART OF MY LIFE AND I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY HEART FOREVER.
I THANK YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY MY CO-WORKERS FOR JUST BEING THERE FOR ME.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN ASK ME WHAT I NEEDED.
I GOT WHAT I NEEDED BEFORE I EVEN ASKED.
I DID NOT EVER HAVE TO THINK IF I WAS GOING TO GET A PHONE CALL OR A VISIT AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE, THE COUNTY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, YOU ALL WERE WITH ME ALL THAT TIME.
JUST TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT ALONE MAKES A PERSON FEEL REALLY GOOD.
YOU ALL HANDLED THE PANDEMIC GREAT BECAUSE DURING THAT TIME, EVERYBODY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE NOT KNOWING HOW WE WERE GOING TO HANDLE OUR JOBS, HOW WE WERE GOING TO BE IN THE AREAS WITH EACH OTHER, BUT THE WAY THE COUNTY HANDLED THAT PANDEMIC REALLY KEPT ME SAFE, KEPT MY CO-WORKERS SAFE AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE.
I'M GOING TO ENJOY EACH AND EVERY MOMENT OF MY RETIREMENT.
I'M SORRY FOR MY LENGTHY TIME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE REALLY BEEN MY ROCK, BESIDES GOD, HE COULDN'T HAVE GIVEN ME A BETTER GROUP OF PEOPLE TO WORK WITH SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE].
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY MRS. GEORGE?
>> I HAVE NOT PREPARED TO SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN WE HAVE ENJOYED THE TIME THAT LAURA SHARED WITH US.
SHE HAS LEFT BIG SHOES TO FILL.
WE HAVE ENJOYED HER AND HER SENSE OF HUMOR AND JUST AS SHE SAID WORKING TOGETHER, GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND BECOME A FAMILY.
WE WILL MISS YOU, BUT WE ARE EXCITED FOR YOU.
>> I'M GOING TO GIVE HER A HUG. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE]
>> THAT'S ALWAYS A PLEASANT PART OF OUR MEETING TO RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY, ESPECIALLY LIKE LORD DID SO MUCH FOR SO MANY AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MISJUDGE, HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN SHE SAYS SHE GOT BIG SHOES TO FILL BECAUSE SHE'S DONE A LOT.
I KNOW ALL THE DAYS THAT I WAS OVER THERE ALWAYS HAD A BIG SMILE. WE THANK HER.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE CHRISTMAS DECORATION WINNERS.
I THINK MR. RUSSO IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT FOR US.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR. I'M MR. STOKE. I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MEETING EVERY YEAR.
WE GET TO CELEBRATE EVERYBODY THAT HAS HELPED MAKE OUR CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY SEASON SO SPECIAL.
WE WILL BE GIVING AWARDS TO OUR CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS CONTEST WINNERS.
THE THREE JUDGES WERE WENDY JOINER, ANN MARIE SAUNDERS, AND STEPHANIE MORISSETTE.
WE WILL BE ALSO GIVING OUT OUR AWARD FOR CHRISTMAS CARD CONTEST WINNER AND FOR OUR CHRISTMAS PARADE WINNERS.
WE HAVE TWO OF OUR JUDGES RIGHT HERE, MISS TERESA NAN AND MISS BETSY.
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME START OFF WITH THE CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS WINNERS.
BEST FRONT DOOR AND PORCH, SHARON RICKMAN.
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LET'S MAKE SURE WE PUT THESE IN ORDER.NEXT, WE HAVE BEST DECORATED BUSINESS, WHICH IS VIGILANT SELF STORAGE.
[APPLAUSE] NEXT WE HAVE THE BEST DECORATED CHURCH, WHICH IS PRINCE GEORGE CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
[APPLAUSE] THEY'RE NOT HERE, WE WILL GIVE THAT TO THEM LATER.
NEXT, WE HAVE CHILDREN'S DELIGHT, WHICH THE SINAN FAMILY [APPLAUSE].
GIVE THOSE TO THEM LATER ALSO.
NEXT WE HAVE MOST FACEBOOK LIKES, ALLISON PATE.
WE HAVE TACKY HOLIDAY FUN, ERIC SAWYER.
[APPLAUSE] [LAUGHTER]. THEN WE HAVE THE TRADITIONAL DISPLAY.
LAST, BUT LEAST IS THE RELIGIOUS DISPLAY, JASON AND EMILIA RUFFIN.
[APPLAUSE] NEXT WE HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS CARD CONTEST WINNER, WRITER HALLET.
[APPLAUSE] THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. [APPLAUSE]. LADIES,.
THE BEST DECORATED FLOAT, VIRGINIA FARM BUREAU INSURANCE COMPANY.
NEXT WE HAVE THE BEST DECORATED SAFETY VEHICLE, PRINCE GEORGE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
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[APPLAUSE] NEXT WE HAVE THE BOTH THE BEST OVERALL ENTRY DANCE CRAZE BY JENNIFER ANDREWS.[APPLAUSE] NEXT UP WE HAVE BEST PERFORMANCE.
THE VIRGINIA TAEKWONDO INSTITUTE [APPLAUSE].
>> THE JUDGES CHOICE, PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL MAJOR ARTS FROM THE 70S [APPLAUSE].
>> DON'T LAUGH [LAUGHTER]. HE WAS FINE.
>> THIS MUST BEEN HARD TO ACHIEVE.
>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR ME.
>> THE MOST ENTERTAINING ART OF RHYTHM DANCE COMPANY [APPLAUSE].
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE MOST SPIRITED THEMED PG MOVERS. [APPLAUSE].
MORE COMICAL THING. [LAUGHTER].
>> WHEN MISS FRANCIS WAS UP THERE, THE AIR IS GOING TO BE SPIRITED.
>> THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON. [APPLAUSE].
>> VERY GOOD. ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S A PLEASANT TIME.
WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
>> SORRY, I WAS CONFUSED WHICH WAY TO GO?
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[OVERLAPPING]>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, SECTION 2-1, OF THE COUNTY CODE WAS ENACTED TO COMPLY WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE VIRGINIA CODE, SECTION 15.2-1503.1.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WOULD BRING THE COUNTY CODE AND COMPLIANCE WITH THREE ADDITIONAL VIRGINIA CODE SECTIONS, 15.2-1505.1, 15.2 - 1505.3 AND 19.2-389 A7, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO THE CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD INFORMATION OF ANY PERSON CONDITIONALLY OFFERED EMPLOYMENT OR WISHING TO VOLUNTEER IN THE COUNTY.
ALL PERSONS CONDITIONALLY OFFERED EMPLOYMENT OR WISHING TO VOLUNTEER WOULD BE FINGERPRINTED AND PROVIDE PERSONAL DESCRIPTIVE INFORMATION FOR PURPOSES OF OBTAINING CRIMINAL HISTORY INFORMATION.
THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WOULD NOW BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSMITTING THAT INFORMATION TO THE CRIMINAL RECORDS EXCHANGE IN THE FBI.
ALL RESULTS WILL BE RETURNED TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.
THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR WOULD DETERMINE IF THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE RECORD DIRECTLY RELATES TO THE POSITION IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NATURE OF THE EMPLOYMENT OR VOLUNTEERING AND WHETHER IT DISQUALIFIES THE PERSON FROM EMPLOYMENT OR VOLUNTEERING IN THE COUNTY.
THE AMENDMENT WILL ALSO LIST ANY ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS TO BE FOLLOWED.
THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IS IN YOUR PACKET, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AT THIS TIME, ANYBODY THAT HAS COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST PASSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
ANYONE HAVING COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE COME FORWARD.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
>> IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I WOULD SO MOVE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE FINGERPRINTING.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE SIR.
>> EXCUSE ME WILL APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, EXCUSE ME.
>> IF YOU APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, CAN I HAVE A SECOND?
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? QUESTIONS? IF NOT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MR. WITTEN. NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO THE AGENDA.
THE NEXT ON THE AGENDA ACTUALLY IS SUPERVISORS' COMMENTS.
[SUPERVISORS’ COMMENTS]
ANY COMMENTS FROM IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR, CARMICHAEL?>> NO COMMENTS TONIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> ANY COMMENTS FOR MS. WAYMACK [INAUDIBLE]?
>> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, I HOPE EVERYONE HAS A SAFE, HAPPY, AND WELL PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR. THANK YOU.
>> NO COMMENTS TONIGHT, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. MR. WEBB?
>> THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THAN ONCE AGAIN, THANKING THE BOARD FOR THEIR CONFIDENCE IN ME AND HOPE I FULFILL THEIR EXPECTATIONS.
MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, SIR.
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR’S COMMENTS]
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE ONLY ITEM FOR TONIGHT IS TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ON MONDAY, JANUARY 16TH, COUNTY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR HOLIDAY.
>> YES, SIR. MOVING ON, FOR REPORTS.
[REPORTS]
WE WON'T HAVE A DIRECT REPORT TONIGHT.WE WILL HAVE A RECLASSIFICATION REPORT FROM MS.SUSAN FIERRO.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE AND MR. WITTEN.
I'M BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT BECAUSE MY OFFICE IS EXPERIENCING A VACANCY IN OUR PART-TIME ASSISTANT COME WEALTH ATTORNEY POSITION.
THAT POSITION WAS HELD FOR 15 YEARS BY MRS. HAMILTON.
MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW MRS. HAMILTON.
SHE RECENTLY LEFT THE POSITION TO FOCUS ON HER PRIVATE PRACTICE.
AS THE DEMANDS OF BOTH JOBS HAVE BECOME TOO MUCH TO JUGGLE TOGETHER.
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IT LEAVES ME WITH THIS OPEN POSITION AND A TIME TO APPROACH THE BOARD TO ASK FOR YOU-ALL TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS PART-TIME COMPENSATION BOARD POSITION TO MAKE IT FULL TIME? I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AS WELL AS WHETHER IT CAN BE BACKFIELD TO FINISH OUT THIS FISCAL YEAR.THERE ARE SOME DOCUMENTS OR A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU.
I MEAN, THAT THE INCREASE IN COSTS FOR A FULL YEAR OF THE POSITION WOULD BE ALMOST $81,000.
I'LL ROUND UP THEN TO BACKFILL IT, ASSUMING OF FEBRUARY 1 HIRE DATE WOULD BE ABOUT $26,000 IN COSTS.
JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MS. HAMILTON DID, SHE HANDLED SOME OF OUR MOST COMPLEX CASES.
SHE HANDLED THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DOCKET AND ALSO CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST CHILDREN, INCLUDING ABUSE, NEGLECT, AND THOSE OF A SEXUAL NATURE.
HER DOCKET WAS VERY VICTIM INTENSIVE.
MANY OF HER CASES DID ACTUALLY GO TO A JURY TRIAL, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS A PART-TIME PROSECUTOR LIKE MR. MIKA, SHE WAS A PART-TIME SALARIED ATTORNEY SO SHE DIDN'T HAVE SET HOURS.
SHE JUST WORKED AS LONG AS THE JOB REQUIRED HER TO DO SO.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THAT ADVERTISED AS A PART-TIME REGULAR POSITION, AND I CHECKED OUR ADVERTISEMENT BEFORE COMING TONIGHT.
IT'S BEEN ADVERTISED FOR 26 DAYS.
WE HAVE 867 VIEWS FOR THE PART-TIME POSITION AND FIVE APPLICATIONS.
ONE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS CAME IN, WELL ACTUALLY TWO CAME IN TODAY.
BUT IN LOOKING AT THE APPLICATIONS, I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF THOSE WILL BE VIABLE CANDIDATES FOR A MYRIAD OF REASONS, INCLUDING THE SCHEDULE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE PERSON TO HAVE IN ORDER TO BE OF ASSISTANCE TO OUR OFFICE AND ALSO SALARY REQUESTS THAT WERE DELINEATED SPECIFICALLY IN ONE OF THOSE COVER LETTERS AND APPLICATIONS.
THE SALARY REQUEST I DON'T THINK WE COULD FULFILL.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR WORK HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE JULY 2021, AND I THINK YOU-ALL HAVE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED LEGISLATION THAT MADE IT OPTIONAL FOR A CRIMINAL DEFENDANT TO BE SENTENCED BY A JURY.
PREVIOUSLY IN VIRGINIA, THEY WERE ALWAYS SENTENCED BY A JURY.
WE HAD A TWO-PART PROCEEDING, GUILT OR INNOCENCE IN THE FIRST, AND IF THE JURY FOUND THEM GUILTY THAN THE JURY WOULD CONSIDER ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE FOR SENTENCING.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MADE THAT OPTIONAL FOR THE DEFENDANT.
THE DEFENDANT NOW DEFAULTS TO JUDGE SENTENCING AND HAS TO FILE A NOTICE FOR JURY SENTENCING.
THUS FAR, SINCE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT STATUTE, WE'VE HAD NO DEFENDANT'S REQUEST JURY SENTENCING.
WE HAVE HAD A VERY LARGE INCREASE IN OUR JURY REQUESTS, AND AN ACTUAL JURY TRIALS.
IN 2022, 35 DEFENDANTS REQUESTED A JURY TRIAL, 11 OF THOSE JURIES WENT FORWARD AND SEVERAL PLED GUILTY ON THE DAY OF THE JURY TRIAL OR VERY CLOSE IN TIME WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY EXPENDED ALL THE EFFORT AND ENERGY TO PREPARE FOR THE JURY TRIAL.
THE OFFICE SPENT AN EQUIVALENT OF 34 DAYS IN JURY TRIALS WHEN ACCOUNTING FOR MULTI-DAY TRIALS INVOLVING MULTI PROSECUTORS.
ON VERY SERIOUS OFFENSES, I TRIED TO HAVE TO PROSECUTORS ON THOSE JURIES BECAUSE THEY LAST 2-3 DAYS.
WE MAY HAVE HAD ONE GO TO FOUR AND THERE'S JUST A LOT TO KEEP UP WITH SO IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE TWO EYES ON THOSE JURY TRIALS.
BY CONTRAST, IN 2019, WHICH I THINK IS THE MOST RELEVANT YEAR BECAUSE IT'S THE YEAR CLOSEST BEFORE COVID, WE HAD FOUR DEFENDANT'S REQUEST A JURY TRIAL, AND EACH LASTED ONE DAY.
WE HAD FOR JURY TRIAL DAYS IN 2019, AND IN 2022 WE HAVE 34.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO PREPARING THEM FOR A JURY TRIAL.
OBVIOUSLY, WE BRING IN OUR WITNESSES TO PREP THEM SOMETIMES MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR SCHEDULES, WHICH IS NO SMALL TASK, ESPECIALLY FOR STATE WITNESSES SUCH AS FORENSIC SCIENTISTS AND MEDICAL EXAMINERS OR WHO ARE BEING PULLED TO THESE JURIES ALL OVER THE STATE.
WE ALSO HAVE TO PREPARE OUR EXHIBITS FOR JURIES BECAUSE JURIES EXPECT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRESENTATION THAN A JUDGE WOULD IN A BENCH TRIAL.
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WE ALSO NEED TO REDACT AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDINGS IF WE HAVE THEM TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING PREJUDICIAL THAT THE JURY WILL SEE OR HEAR IN THOSE RECORDINGS.WHEREAS WHEN YOU DO A BENCH TRIAL, THE JUDGE IS DEEMED TO KNOW WHAT IS INADMISSIBLE AND WHAT IS ADMISSIBLE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE REDACTIONS WITH A JUDGE TRIAL.
WE ALSO HAVE TO PREPARE OBVIOUSLY OUR JURY INSTRUCTIONS AND PREPARE FOR VOIR DIRE, WHICH IS OUR QUESTIONING OF POTENTIAL JURORS, AND WE DO JUROR RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT SOME BIAS OUT THERE THAT WE CAN FAIR IT OUT THROUGH OUR RESEARCH.
OBVIOUSLY, WE ALSO HAVE MORE PRETRIAL MOTIONS WHEN WE HAVE JURY TRIALS, AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE JUST PREPARE OUR TRIAL, THE DIRECT AND CROSS-EXAMINATION OF OUR WITNESSES AND WHATEVER LEGAL ISSUES MAY COME UP.
WE ARE TAXED, AND WE COULD USE THE ADDITIONAL HELP OF MAKING THIS PART-TIME POSITION FULL-TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CEASE FIRE PROSECUTOR, BUT I'LL SAY THAT THE CEASEFIRE PROSECUTOR IS A SHARED POSITION WITH HOPEWELL, AND PURSUANT TO THE GRANT, WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING IS LIMITED MOST SIMPLY TO GUN VIOLENCE AND GUN CRIMES.
THEY CAN'T JUST COME IN AND HANDLE A REGULAR OLD CHILD ABUSE CASE UNLESS IT INVOLVES SOME GUN VIOLENCE.
ALTHOUGH THAT WILL BE OF ASSISTANCE TO US, I THINK IT'LL BE OF GREATER ASSISTANCE TO BUILDING BETTER CASES FOR GUN CRIME AND VIOLENCE THAT WE HAVE.
BUT THIS WOULD BE A LONG-TERM ASSISTANCE TO US IN ADDRESSING ALL OF THESE JURY TRIALS THAT WE HAVE.
THE REQUESTS HAVE REMAINED REALLY CONSISTENT.
THE VOLUME I SHOULD SAY, OF THE REQUESTS HAVE REMAINED CONSISTENT SINCE THE CHANGE IN LAW.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I KNOW YOU-ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF THAT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT ANYTIME LATER AS WELL.
>> OKAY. MRS. [INAUDIBLE] THE CEASEFIRE PROSECUTOR, IT'S A SHERIFF POSITION?
>> DOES HE HAVE THE OPTION OF PROSECUTING IN EITHER LOCALITY OR A LOCALITY OF HIS CHOICE?
>> THE WAY THAT WILL WORK IS THE PROSECUTOR HAS BEEN HIRED.
SHE STARTS ON JANUARY 30TH, SO MYSELF AND MEMBERS OF THE HOPEWELL COME ALSO ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL DETERMINE WHICH CASES GO TO THAT PROSECUTOR TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NOT TOO MANY PRINCE GEORGE CASES, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY HOPEWELL CASES SO THAT THE CASES ARE EVENLY SPLIT.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
>> I WILL REDIRECT. IF YOU HAVE AN OFFENSE, LET'S JUST SAY ANOTHER WANTED TO SHARE IT LOCALITIES,VERSUS BEING INTRIGUED BY YOUR PEERS, CAN THAT PROSECUTOR CHOOSE TO HAVE IT IN ANOTHER LOCALITY WITH NO BIASED.
>> CHANGE OF VENUE. THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM HERE.
>> OKAY, SO IF THERE IS A LOT OF PRE-TRIAL PUBLICITY, EITHER SIDE, PROSECUTOR OR DEFENSE CAN ASK FOR A CHANGE IN VENUE WHICH MOVES THE ENTIRE CASE, JUDGE, EVERYBODY TO ANOTHER VENUE WHERE JURORS WOULD NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
>> NO. GO AHEAD I'M DONE THAT WAS IT.
>> THAT PARTICULAR YOUNG LADY WOULD HAVE TO GO WHEREVER THE VENUE WOULD BE, RIGHT?
>> YES. BUT SHE WOULD ONLY BE PROSECUTING CASES THAT OCCUR IN PRINCE GEORGE AND HOPEWELL.
ALL OF YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE SALARIED?
>> FOR THE REQUEST FOR THIS POSITION TO BE FULL TIME.
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA OVERTIME IN HOURLY WAGES FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP WHERE THIS PERSON HAD LEFT?
>> NO ALL OF THE ATTORNEYS ARE SALARIED EMPLOYEES SO THEY DON'T GET COMPENSATED FOR OVERTIME.
>> THEY JUST HAD TO STEP UP AND CARRY THE WORKLOAD?
YES. ONE OF THE PROSECUTORS IN MY OFFICE, FOR INSTANCE, WAS IN COURT UNTIL FIVE O'CLOCK TODAY FROM 8:30.
>> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MRS. [INAUDIBLE]?
>> AGAIN, ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL NEED FROM ME, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE OR TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
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>> WHAT WE CAN DO IS ASK FOR FIRST WE'D NEED A RECOMMENDATION ON POSITION CONTROL CHART ON A FINANCIAL IMPACT.
IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE WISHES OF THE BOARD.
>> YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT TOO.
>> IT'S AN EIGHT. WE'LL NEED TO DO THEN IS ASK TO HAVE THIS CASE POSTPONED FOR UNTIL YOU GET US OUR INFORMATION.
WE'RE ONLY VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT JUST ADD FOR RESOLUTION FOR THE IMPACT ON FINANCIAL POSITION CONTROL CHART.
>> OKAY. THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING IS REQUEST THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD HIM.
>> THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE ANY POSTPONED ITEMS, DO WE? NO OTHER REPORTS.
WE MOVE INTO DRAFT MINUTES OF DECEMBER 13TH, REGULAR MEETING.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS]
I THINK THAT'S UNDER TAB 16.>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE AREN'T ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS, I WOULD SO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE MINUTES FOR THE 13TH OF DECEMBER.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I'M HEARING NONE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?
>> I ABSTAIN. I WAS ABSENT THAT DAY.
>> WE HAVE A LIKE FOR DECEMBER 20TH, SPECIAL MEETING DRAFT MINUTES.
>> NO DISCUSSION MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT AS PRESENTED.
I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING ON DECEMBER 20TH.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. CALL THE ROLL.
>> I ABSTAIN. I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THAT MEETING.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE ORDINANCE TO OMIT THE COUNTY.
THE CODE OF THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE, AMEND IN 82-261 AND 82-536, TO AUTHORIZE THE BOARD TO GIVE REFUNDS ON PROPERTY OWNERS FOR UNNEUTRALIZED WATER AND WASTEWATER. IS THAT RIGHT?
>> UNUTILIZED. I GET IT RIGHT.
FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER AFTER CONNECTION FEE IS PAID.
>> GORHAM, MR. STOKE, SECTIONS 82-261 AND 82-536 OF THE COUNTY CODE STATE THE REFUND SHALL NOT BE MADE FOR ANY UNUTILIZED WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY AFTER CONNECTION FEES HAVE BEEN CREDITED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNT WHEN CONNECTING NEW METERS.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE TWO CODE SECTIONS WOULD ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PAVE THAT CONNECTION FEE TO HAVE A REFUND FOR THE UNUTILIZED WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY, WHICH CAN BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD WITH A RESOLUTION.
THIS WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT HAD AN OVERSIZED WATER OUR WASTEWATER METER, AND THEY NO LONGER NEED THAT CAPACITY.
IT BENEFITS THE COUNTY TO HAVE THAT WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY BACK, AND IT BENEFITS THE PROPERTY OWNER BECAUSE THEY WOULD GET A REFUND OR PRO-RATA REFUND.
MR. HALL TERM IS HERE AS WELL TO BETTER EXPLAIN THE NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY CODE BUT THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE ON FEBRUARY 14TH IF IT IS APPROVED.
>> I THINK THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO DO IS APPROVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HEAR THE FULL EXPLANATION, AND AT THAT TIME.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION THEN TO PROVE THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
>> IS THERE A MOVE? I'M SORRY YOU'RE WAITING TO GIVE A DATE?
>> FEBRUARY 14TH WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION?
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I'M HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.>> NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO APPROVAL OF A PRICE LIST FOR REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, MR. WITTEN?
>> YES. THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE HAS PROPOSED A PRICELESS SIMILAR TO OTHER LOCALITIES.
POOR PROPERTY RECORDS AND PROPERTY RECORD INFORMATION.
THE PROPERTY RECORD WOULD STILL BE FREE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT WHICH IT'D BE CHARGED $2 FOR EACH RECORD IF THEY'RE NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEY WOULD BE CHARGED FOR THE PRINTED RECORD IN $0.20 PER RECORD FOR THE ELECTRONIC DATABASE EXTRACTION.
THE FULL DATABASE WOULD BE $2,000.
THAT WOULD BE FOR LARGE COMPANIES, THEY USE THE INFORMATION TO COMPARE PROPERTY VALUES STAYED IN NATIONWIDE.
FOR SPECIAL REQUEST, IT'D BE $63 PER HOUR.
THE PRICE LIST IS IN YOUR PACKET, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. GORDON IS HERE AS WELL AND HE CAN EXPLAIN THE NECESSITY FOR THIS PRICE LIST.
>> ONCE AGAIN, THIS HAS AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
>> NO, ACTUALLY [NOISE] WE DON'T NEED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS, THIS WOULD [OVERLAPPING] RESOLUTION TO APPROVE.
>> WE DON'T HAVE RIGHTS IN PLACE TODAY?
>> MS. GORDON IS HERE IF YOU WANT TO HEAR SOME EXPLANATION.
>> I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN THAT $63 AN HOUR KICKS IN AND DOES IT DOUBLE-DIP ON ANY OF THE THREE ABOVE IT? OR IS THAT.
>> ACCORDING TO MR. GARNIER, WHEN YOU GIVE THE WHOLE ELECTRONIC DATABASE WHERE ALL THE PROPERTY RECORDS IN THE COUNTY, IT'S A FLAT $2,000 FEE.
HE CAN PROBABLY BETTER DETAIL WHAT SPECIAL REQUEST HE ENVISIONS WHERE HE'D BE CHARGING HIS HOURLY RATE.
THAT'S HIS HOURLY RATE, NOT AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
>> I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE CITIZENS THAT WERE CHARGING ONE PRICE AND THEN THEY GET HIT WITH THE $63 AN HOUR AS WELL.
>> CHAIRMAN HUNTER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, THE PER HOUR RATE WOULD BE FOR REQUESTS.
WE HAVE REQUESTS SAY FROM A POOL COMPANY THAT ASKS US TO PULL THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF EVERYONE WHO OWNS A POOL SO THEY CAN DO A CUSTOMIZED MAILING FOR THEIR SERVICES AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF REQUEST THAT THAT WOULD BE GEARED TOWARD.
WE DO GET VERY SPECIALIZED REQUESTS LIKE THAT ON OCCASION.
THEN THE FULL DATABASE THAT'S REALLY GEARED TOWARD COMPANIES.
THERE ARE INFORMATION AGGREGATORS THAT ARE PROVIDING CONGLOMERATING THE DATA AND THEN PRODUCING THINGS LIKE ZILLOW AND VARIOUS REAL ESTATE SEARCH DATABASES AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S GEARED TOWARD.
THOSE ARE OUT-OF-STATE USERS OF THE DATA.
THEY DON'T FALL UNDER THE FREE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THROUGH FOIA.
>> YOU DON'T SEE A NEED FOR THE 63 PER HOUR NOT TO EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT?
>> NO. NOT FOR A TYPICAL PROPERTY OWNER.
>> GOOD QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> WITH THAT IN MIND, ANYBODY IN A POSITION TO MAKE A MOTION?
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?
>> NEXT, WE HAVE RESOLUTION AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE TO COUNTY BY ENACTING AS 74-200 TO CLARIFY THAT ANY ORGANIZATION THAT CLAIMS EXEMPTION BY CLASSIFICATION FOR REAL ESTATE PARCEL SHALL MAKE THE REQUESTS ON FORMS BOTH SUPPLIED AND REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ASSESSOR, MR. WITTEN?
>> YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS, MR. STOKE. THE PROPOSED SECTION 74-200 WOULD ALLOW ORGANIZATIONS THAT CLAIM EXEMPTION BY CLASSIFICATION.
PERSUADED TO THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTION AND THE VIRGINIA CODE TO MAKE THE REQUEST ON THE FORUMS THAT WOULD BE SUPPLIED AND THEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ASSESSOR.
IF THEY WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ASSESSOR, THE EXEMPTION WOULD THEN TAKE EFFECT ON THE DATE OF THE APPLICATION.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO BE ADVERTISED ON FEBRUARY 14TH OF THIS YEAR.
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>> THIS IS AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE FOR AN ORDINANCE CHANGE OR ORDINANCE IN THE 14TH.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR THAT.
>> I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND?
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE CALL THE ROLL.
>> NEXT, A6 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE THE ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA AS AMENDED BY ENACTED 74-199 AUTHORIZED TO ABATEMENT OF TAX LEVIES ON BUILDINGS WHICH ARE RAISED, DESTROYED OR DAMAGED.
>> YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, THIS IS ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE IS PROPOSED TO BY THE ACCESSOR.
THIS WILL BE NEW SECTION 74-199, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE ABATEMENT OF TAX LEVIES ON BUILDINGS THAT ARE RAISED, DESTROYED OR DAMAGED BY A HAPPENING BEYOND THE CONTROL OF THE OWNER.
AS LONG AS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY DECREASED BY MORE THAN $500, AND THE DESTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO RENDER THE BUILDING UNFIT FOR USE FOR 30 DAYS OR MORE WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR.
THEN THE OWNER WOULD THEN APPLY OFFENSE SIX, MOST OF THE DESTRUCTION OR THE ABATEMENT.
THE TAX WOULD THEN BE PRORATED ACCORDING TO THE PORTION OF THE YEAR THAT THE BUILDING WAS FIT FOR USE.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 14TH SO YOU CONSIDER THIS ORDINANCE.
>> ONCE AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD MR. WITTEN, THIS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR OUR ORDINANCE ON FEBRUARY THE 14TH.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND DAKOTA COUNTY AS AMENDED BY 74-198, CHANGE THE DATES RELATED TO THE ASSESSMENT OF NEW BUILDINGS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED.
>> YES. THIS AMENDMENT IS SECTION 74-198, ADDRESSES THE FACT THAT CURRENTLY AT STATES BUILDING SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED ARE FIT FOR USE.
OUR OCCUPANCY PRIOR TO NOVEMBER 4 SHALL BE ASSESSED BY THE ASSESSOR.
THIS DATE WAS BASED ON THE CALENDAR TAX YEAR AND A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THE COUNTY SWITCHED TO A FISCAL TAX YEAR FOR REAL ESTATE SO ALL THESE DATES IN HERE HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED BY MR. GORDNER BASED ON THE FISCAL TAX YEAR SCHEDULE.
VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 58.1-3010, PROVIDES THE DATES AND THE CODE THAT ARE RELATIVE TO THE TAXES AND WHEN THEY SHOULD BE ACCORDING TO THE FISCAL TAX YEAR.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ADJUST THE DATES TO THE FISCAL TAX YEAR.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THIS ORDINANCE TO BE ADVERTISED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 14TH.
>> WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 14TH.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE ROLL.
>> EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE [OVERLAPPING]
>> EVERYBODY GET VALENTINE'S GIFT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORITY, ADVERTISE ORDINATES ON THE CODE OF COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE AS AMENDED BY AMENDMENT 7-265 TO CLARIFY THE SIMPLE INTERESTS, SHALL BE ADDED TO ROLL BACK TAXES AFTER ROLL TO DELINQUENT TAXES IN THE COUNTY.
>> YES, IT WILL. YOU CAN SEE THE ASSESSOR HAS BEEN VERY BUSY.
[LAUGHTER] THERE'S A LOT OF ORDINANCES THAT HE HAS PROPOSED.
THIS IS THE LAST ONE HE IS PROPOSING AND THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 74-265.
BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES, IT STATES WHEN THE ROLLBACK TAX IS IMPOSED ON A PROPERTY THAT'S FALLEN OUT OF LAND USE, THEN BASICALLY, INTERESTS WOULD BE CHARGED ON THE ROLLBACK TAX AT THE RATE APPLICABLE TO DELINQUENT TAXES IN THE COUNTY FOR EACH OF THE FIVE PREVIOUS TAX SHARES.
WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 14TH.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.
>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THERE'S A RESOLUTION PROVIDED.
>> GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT IS CAN SOME OF THESE BE SHIFTED OR CAN THIS BE SHIFTED TO THE 28TH?
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BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US A LOT AND THAT'S NOT EVEN CONSIDERING OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WE WOULD HAVE ON OUR AGENDA.>> IN YOUR MOTION, IF YOU WANT TO ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FEBRUARY 28TH, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
>> THIS CHANGE, DOES IT COINCIDE WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS ON THAT NIGHT?
>> IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT, CORRECT.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I'M IN ORDER, I WOULD MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO COME BACK TO US ON FEBRUARY THE 28TH
ANY DISCUSSION? IT'D BE THE 28TH RATHER THAN THE 14TH.
>> NEXT, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT PORTABLE TP125 GENERATOR.
MR. SIMMONS, TELL US ABOUT IT.
>> BOARD MEMBERS. [LAUGHTER] MR. STOKE, MR. WITTEN.
I'M HERE TONIGHT FOR A RESOLUTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR A PORTABLE 110 KW GENERATOR.
THIS WILL BE PURCHASED AT A CONTINGENCY MONEY FROM THE RADIO PROJECT.
WE'VE GOT GENERATORS AT ALL OF OUR SALES SITES NOW PLUS WE HAVE GENERATORS AT THE ECC AND HERE AT ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
WE DID RUN INTO A SITUATION HERE A MONTH OR SO AGO WHERE THE GENERATOR WENT DOWN AT ONE OF THE TOWER SITE HERE ON THE COMPLEX AND A GENERATOR WENT DOWN AT THE ECC, SO WE WERE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO LOSING OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION.
AT THAT TIME THE POLICE AND DISPATCH CAME AND SAID WHAT WAS MY SUGGESTION TO TAKE CARE OF THIS AND I SUGGESTED THAT IF THEY HAD TO CONTINGENCY MONEY, WE'D MOVE FORWARD WITH BUYING A PORTABLE GENERATOR THAT WE COULD USE AT ALL THIS TOWER SITES, ALL THE NEW TOWER SITES ARE ALREADY WIRED UP FOR A PORTABLE GENERATOR OTHER THAN THE GENERATORS THERE.
WE COULD MOVE THIS FROM ALL THE TOWER SITES, THE ECC, AND EVEN THIS COMPLEX RIGHT HERE, IF WE SO DESIRED OR NEEDED IT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A STORM AND YOU TRY TO GET A TEMPORARY GENERATOR ON A TRAILER, THEY'RE GONE.
THEY'RE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THEY ARE IN FLORIDA WHEREVER THE STORM IS COMING FROM, THEY'RE ALL SHIPPED THERE.
THERE'S NOTHING LOCALLY THAT YOU CAN GET.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT PURCHASING AND THIS IS FOR A PURCHASE OF THAT GENERATOR SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT BACKUP GENERATOR.
I WANT TO TRY TO LOOK AND BE PULLED BY AN FT50 PICKUP TRUCK, TANDEM AXLE TRAILER, DIESEL TANK AND IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR POSITION SWITCH SO YOU CAN RUN SINGLE-PHASE AND YOU CAN RUN ALL THE VOLTAGES ON THREE-PHASE 108, DELTA PHASE AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S SET UP TO COVER EVERYTHING.
>> DO WE NOT ALREADY HAVE A BACKUP GENERATOR AT THE ECC?
>> WE HAVE BACKUP GENERATOR, BUT IF THE BACKUP GENERATOR GOES DOWN, THEN WE HAVE NO BACKUP FOR THE BACKUP GENERATOR.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS SITUATION, THAT WE HAD A MONTH OR SO AGO.
>> THE BACK UP WENT DOWN AS WELL AS THE PRIMARY.
>> THE PRIMARY AND THE BACKUP, THE PRIMARY GENERATOR, THE FUEL PUMP WAS BAD AND WHEN THE SECONDARY GENERATOR CAME ON THE THERMOSTAT STUCK SO IT RAN HOT AND BLUE ALL THE COOLANT OUT OF IT.
THEN WE HAD BOTH GENERATORS DOWN WE'RE OUT HERE TRYING TO GET AND THE GENERATOR [NOISE] AT THE TOWER RIGHT HERE HAD AN ISSUE WAS DOWN.
>> MR. SIMMONS, IS THIS GENERATOR SETUP TO USE DEF?
>> YEAH, IT'LL HAVE DEF BECAUSE IT'S THE NEW GENERATOR.
>> WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR FILLING THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE BUY THEM FOR ALL THE FIRETRUCKS.
WE HAVE FIRETRUCKS THAT I HAVE THE DEF.
>> YOU'VE GOT A PORTABLE TANK OR YOU CAN REFILL THEM IN A POSITION OF DEPTH SOMEWHERE?
>> I RENTED A COUPLE OF GENERATORS WHILE BACK FOR POWERHOUSES DOWN, FINDING DEF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WAS NOT EASY.
>> WE GET DEF BY 55 GALLON DRUMS. THEN FLEET GARAGE AND THEY HAVE IT ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK AT MOST TIMES WITH THE PUMP.
>> WE HAVE A WAY OF FILLING IT.
>> WE WENT TO AUTOZONE, HAD TO BUY EVERYTHING THEY HAD IN O'REILLY'S.
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>> WITH THIS [NOISE], MY CONCERN WOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE REGULAR MAINTENANCE ON IT SO WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
>> WE DO REGULAR MAINTENANCE ON ALL THE GENERATORS IS BECAUSE NUMBER 1 FOR OUR ACCREDITATION PROGRAM, EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TO HAVE QUARTERLY PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE DONE ON IT.
WE CAN DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE ONE DAY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF THESE GENERATORS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE GETTING SOME AGE ON THEM BUT THERE'S NO RECORD AS FAR AS HOW MANY HOURS IS ON THEM BECAUSE OUR METER WENT BAD ON THIS ONE THEY PUT A NEW HOUR METER ON IT AND SOMEBODY WROTE ON OR IF MAGIC MARKER HOUR METER REPLACED.
CAN YOU SEE HOW MANY HOURS THEY HEAD ON WHEN THEY REPLACE THEM IN HOUR METER AND STUFF? WITH THIS IF WE HAVE SOME OF OUR AGING GENERATORS GO DOWN, WE HAVE A BACKUP.
>> WHO KEEPS A RECORD? I'M SORRY, DON.
>> WHO KEEPS HER MAINTENANCE RECORDS ON THIS GENERATOR? IS THAT GOING TO BE KEPT BY THE MAINTENANCE SHOP OVER HERE OR IS THAT IN YOUR DEPARTMENT?
>> JUST KEPT THEM OUT DEPARTMENT NOW THAT I'M IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
[OVERLAPPING] THEN ALSO ALL THE ALL THE EMERGENCY GENERATORS ARE THAT INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO THE ACCREDITATION OFFICER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
>> WHICH YOU JUST MENTIONED NOW IF YOU CHANGE HOUR METERS OUT, DO YOU HAVE A WAY OF CAPTURING THOSE HOURS GOING FORWARD, SO YOU'D KNOW WHAT IT WAS?
>> UNTIL THEY WENT WITH FERTILITY DAYS IN 2016, THERE'S VERY POOR RECORD-KEEPING, STUFF WAS WRITTEN DOWN ON PAPERS, ONCE THEY WENT TO THE FACILITY DUDES WHICH IS OUR SOFTWARE PROGRAM IN 2016, THEY'VE GOT BETTER RECORDS OF IT.
PRIOR TO '16, THE RECORDS WAS NON-EXISTING.
THERE'S RECORDS THERE BUT IT'S HARD TO TRACK WHAT WAS DONE WHERE.
>> YOUR NEED THEM FOR WARRANTY WORK.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT COMMENT.
>> I SUPPOSE THIS WON'T BE ABLE TO BE PUT ON THE MAINTENANCE LOG THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR ALL THE VEHICLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> YEAH. IT'S A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT JUST LIKE A FIRE TRUCK WE CAN PUT IT RIGHT IN THE FLEET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM JUST LIKE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT'D BE THE THING TO DO.
>> IT BEING THAT IT IS A PORTABLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, THAT'S THE WAY IT WILL BE PM.
IT WILL BE ONCE WE GET OUR FLEET GARAGE DONE, WE HAVE A STORAGE LOT THAT IS FOR THE FLEET SHOP NOW.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE STORED IN THAT STORAGE LOT.
>> RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN ONLY TELL US THE AGE OF [NOISE] ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW WHEN IT WAS MADE.
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.
THIS IS GOING TO COME OUT OF CONTINGENCY.
>> RADIO CONTINGENCY, DIFFERENCE.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I SO MOVE TO APPROVE.
ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
RESOLUTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT OR PROLIFERATION OF 305594 FOR CT REPLACEMENT OF A TWO STACK TWO IN THE COUNTY ADMIN BUILDING?
>> YES, SIR. FEW MONTHS AGO I CAME TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE BOILER SITUATION WE HAD WHERE WE HAD ONE BOILER THAT BLEW UP AFTER DOING EXTENSIVE MAINTENANCE TO IT AND WE WERE DOWN TO ONE BOILER AND YOU ALL APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REPLACING THE BOILERS.
WE HAD THE CONTRACTOR CAME IN THAT WAS AWARDED THAT CONTRACT AND IN INVESTIGATING TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED TO INSTALL NEW BOILERS WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY FOUND A DEFICIENCY IN THE BUILDING WITH THE STACKS FROM THE BOILERS.
WE'RE USING CLASS, THE SAME CLASSIFICATION BOILERS AND ALL BUT THE STACKS THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING OR LIKE A CLASS TWO STACK AND THE BOILERS REQUIRE A CLASS FOUR STACK.
TO MEET THE WARRANTY REQUIREMENTS AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AND ALL, THOSE STACKS NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO A CATEGORY FOUR STACK.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR, THIS ALLEGATION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REPLACING THE STACKS IN THE BUILDINGS SO THAT THE NEW BOILERS.
>> EQUIPPING A STANDARD CHANGE.
AS THEY MOVE FORWARD THEY CHANGE STANDARDS ON STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO PIPING AND ALL THAT.
>> YEAH, THE STANDARDS, THE PIPING THAT WAS PUT IN THERE IS NOT THE RIGHT CLASSIFICATION, BUT AT THAT TIME YOU COULD USE THAT PIPE FOR THAT CLASSIFICATION.
BUT NOW THE STANDARD IS, IT HAS TO BE, IF IT'S A CLASS FOUR IT HAS TO BE A CLASS FOUR PIPE.
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AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE INSTALLED IN THE BUILDING, YOU COULD USE A SMALLER CLASSIFICATION PIPE, IF THE PIPE WASN'T OVER A CERTAIN LENGTH.>> BASICALLY WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT.
>> BASICALLY FOR THE NEW BOILERS WE'RE KIND OF GOT TO HAND SIDE.
>> I'M SURE WE NEED IT. WILL THIS HELP WITH THAT IS THAT WE HAD SOME FUMES HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO.
>> THE FUMES A FEW MONTHS AGO WAS NOT FROM THE BOILER OR ANYTHING.
THE FUMES WAS FROM THE EIGHT BACKPACK BLOWERS THAT WAS BLOWING LEAVES OUTSIDE THE INTAKE.
>> [LAUGHTER] LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS HEDGER FOR A MINUTE.
IT WAS PRIOR TO THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
>> WELL, PRIOR TO THAT WE HAD A BURNER ISSUE WITH ONE OF THE BOILERS SO THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A FUME.
I'D NEVER GOT A REPORT OF FUMES, BUT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME FUMES.
>> WELL, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION BEFORE US.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION.
>> I WILL SECOND, I'LL SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL ROLL PLEASE.
>> NEXT WE HAVE RUSSIA AWARD A CONTRACT WITH FIRE AND EMS, ESO SOFTWARE CHIEF [INAUDIBLE].
>> YOUR HONOR CONGRATUATIONS, I GUESS NOT ACTUALLY CONDOLENCES.
MEMBERS OF BOARD, MR. STORCH, MR. WITTEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
WE CURRENTLY USE A SOFTWARE CALLED IMAGE TREND THAT DOES FIRE AND EMS REPORTING.
WE ALSO USE VARIOUS OTHER PROGRAMS AND I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THOSE THINGS.
BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO IS CHANGED TO WHAT THE STATE OF VIRGINIA ACTUALLY FUNDS AND ALLOWS GRANT MONIES FOR SOME OF THE SOFTWARE THAT'S OUT THERE AS WELL AS COMPUTERS AND THAT PROGRAM IS ESO.
ESO IS PRIMARILY DESIGNED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FOR WHICH OUR CURRENT ONE IS NOT AND I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT WHERE I CAME FROM.
IN EARLY 2000, I WAS THE VERY FIRST FIRE EMS SERVICE THAT EVER PUT COMPUTERS ON THEIR TRUCKS.
I HAVE A TONE OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE SOFTWARE, SOME THAT WERE REALLY GOOD, SOME THAT JUST WERE HORRIBLE.
EVEN WHERE I CAME FROM, WE USED ESO, THE LAST SERVICE I WAS AT, I USED ESO AND IT'S VERY VERY FRIENDLY FOR THE TEAMS. I'M GOING TO JUST READ YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT SUMMARY WHAT WE HAVE.
RIGHT NOW THE SOFTWARE THAT WE CURRENTLY USE, WE DO PAY FOR AND THERE ARE SOME TRAINING ASPECTS THAT WE PAY FOR ON ANOTHER SOFTWARE, AND THERE ARE SCHEDULING AND SOME BILLING SOFTWARE THAT WE DO.
BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO COMBINE EVERYTHING UNDER ONE.
RIGHT NOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, OUR DATA PROCESSING, I'M A DATA PERSON.
OUR DATA PULLING FROM OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE IS SOMEWHAT PROBLEMATIC.
IT DOES MAKE IT SIMPLER TO PULL IT FROM ESO.
BUT WHAT ELSE HAPPENS IS WE HAVE A TRAINING PLATFORM CALLED TARGET SOLUTION.
I BELIEVE YOU MAY BE AWARE OF IT.
IT IS AN EXPENSIVE PROGRAM, SO RIGHT NOW THE VOLUNTEERS ARE NOT INCLUDED ON IT.
WELL, THIS ACTUALLY HAS A TRAINING PROGRAM WITH IT CALLED FIRE RESCUE 1, WHICH IS ONE OF THE KEY PLAYERS IN TRADE MAGAZINE PUBLICATIONS FOR THE FIRE EMS PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THEY DO A LOT OF ONLINE TRAINING.
THIS PLATFORM, WHILE EXPENSIVE IS STILL LESS EXPENSIVE THAN OUR TARGET SOLUTION AND IS INCLUDED INTO THIS SOFTWARE SO THEY ALL ACT AS ONE.
MEANING IF THE VOLUNTEERS OR A CAREER PERSON DECIDES TO TAKE A CLASS, THOSE RECORDS AND THOSE HOURS ARE AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERRED INTO ONE DATABASE.
I CAN PULL HOW OFTEN YOU'RE ON A CALL, HOW OFTEN YOU'RE DOING TRAINING, WHAT YOU DID TRAINING ON, ALL OF YOUR CERTIFICATIONS, IT ALERTS YOU WHEN IT EXPIRES.
ALL THE VOLUNTEERS WOULD FINALLY BE INCLUDED IN THIS.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO PAPER REPORTS, SEND IT UP TO ADMIN, HAVE US PUT IT INTO IMAGE TREND, WHICH IS WHERE THE VOLUNTEERS PUT THEIRS, WE PUT OURS IN TARGET SOLUTION.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT, I GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT, THEY'RE PAID OR VOLUNTEERED, WHAT SOFTWARE DO I NEED TO GO TO. IT ELIMINATES THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT THE SOFTWARE, BEFORE I TELL YOU THE PRICE, [LAUGHTER] IS THAT IT'S GOING TO REDUCE A LOT OF HOURS AT OUR BILLING.
ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE LIKE WITH IT IS THAT FACT THAT ESO IS BUILT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT HAS THE CAPABILITY TO OVERCOME A FIREWALL CALLED HL7, WHICH IS FOR HOSPITALS.
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IN THE HOSPITALS WHEN WE TRANSPORT A PATIENT TO THE HOSPITAL AND WE GIVE THEM OUR PATIENT CARE REPORT, THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO INTO THEIR MEDICAL RECORD, WHETHER IT'S CERNER OR EPIC OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AND WHEN THEY GO BACK IN THERE AND THEY PUT IT IN THE PATIENT'S INFORMATION OR UPDATE IT, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY POPULATE OURS.IF OUR MEDICS ACTUALLY FORGET TO GET ANYTHING, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DUMPED IN FROM THE HOSPITAL WHEN THEY DO IT.
THAT SPEEDS OUR BILLING PROCESS UP TREMENDOUSLY.
IN THE BILLING PROCESS WE'RE USING DIFFERENT SOFTWARES, SO YOU'RE PULLING FROM ONE TO PUT IT INTO ANOTHER AND MAKING SURE YOU READ IT RIGHT.
WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM IT'S ALREADY IN ONE SYSTEM, WITH A CLICK OF A BUTTON IT'S DUMPING ALL OF THE DATA FROM THAT PATIENT CARE REPORT DIRECTLY INTO IT.
THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF ADVANTAGES THAT YOU'LL FIND IN THE PACKET.
NOW THE PART, IS THERE A COST? THERE ABSOLUTELY IS.
RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL COST, AND THIS DOES COME FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUND.
THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROGRAM IS LET ME FIND IT. 57.
>> NOW, THAT'S THE INITIAL COST.
THEN ANNUALLY THERE IS A 52,000 DOLLAR FEE.
BUT WE JUST FINISHED OUR FY24 BUDGET BY ELIMINATING SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE WILL NO LONGER NEED.
WE MADE CUTS AND SEVERAL OF THE OPERATIONAL LINES.
EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE MY BUDGET WHEN IT COMES OUT IN 2000 FY24, WE'RE ACTUALLY ONLY OVER WITH ALL OF THAT 2.3 PERCENT.
THAT IS DIRECTLY TIED TO OUR FUEL.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, FUEL COSTS KILLED ME THIS YEAR.
FUEL AND MAINTENANCE, THAT WAS IT.
WE HAVE CUT OTHER LINE ITEMS DUE TO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE BY ALLOWING ALL THE BUDGETS TO BE UNDER ONE.
LAST YEAR WHERE WE WERE EVEN UNDER BUDGET.
IT ACTUALLY COVERS THE COST ON IT.
THE YEARLY WILL GO TO 50, WHICH TECHNICALLY IS ONLY ABOUT $30,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE SPENT NOW ON THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING OF 25, 30 SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
BUT THE HOURS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAVE IN GETTING IT DONE, BILLING THE TRAINING.
LITERALLY THE TRAINING IS WHAT I LIKED THE MOST, IS THAT I CAN ACTUALLY SEND SOMETHING OUT AND ASSIGN ANYBODY IN THE SYSTEM A TASK IT USED SEND THEM AN EMAIL THEY CAN LOG IN, THEY COULD TAKE THE CLASS.
IT LETS ME KNOW THAT THEY FINISHED IT. THEY'RE SEARCHING, ARE NOT DONE.
IT TELLS THEM AND THEY CAN EVEN UPLOAD THEIR OWN TRAINING CLASSES TO THIS THING, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
>> GOOD, SIR. NO ADDITIONAL DATA ENTRY NEEDED.
>> AS FAR AS WHAT? I'M SORRY, A WHOLE PACKAGE, THE KEYING IN THE INFORMATION AND HOW ACCURATE CAN YOU GUARANTEE THAT THOSE THAT ARE PUTTING IN THE HOURS OF TRAINING?
>> I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT I TELL EVERYBODY, LIKE GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT.
THEY PUT INACCURATE INFORMATION IN THERE, I'M GOING TO END UP PRODUCING INACCURATE INFORMATION.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW, SOME OF THE REPORTS IS SOME PEOPLE WILL PUT THAT THEY RESPONDED TO A CALL.
WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T RESPOND TO A CALL, THEY JUST RESPONDED TO STAFF THE STATION DURING THE CALL.
WELL THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THE RESPONDENT TO THE CALL BECAUSE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO PUT IN THAT THEY JUST STAFF THE STATION.
IF I HAD 10 VOLUNTEERS AND WE GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND WE PUT IN 10 HOURS OF TRAINING.
>> THEN SOMEBODY ELSE PUTS IN 12 WHO AUDITS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO KEY PUNCH ERRORS THAT ANY NEW ENTRIES OF TRAINING THAT'S BEING VERIFIED THAT IT'S CORRECT AND TRUE.
>> THEY WOULD STILL SEND THE STUFF UP AND OF COURSE, IF THEY DID, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO AUDITS THERE NO CHECKS AND BALANCES, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SOME OF THE STATIONS ARE TRAINING ON, NONE WHATSOEVER.
BY PUTTING THEM ON THE SYSTEM, I WILL NOW START TO KNOW WHAT THEIR TRAINING ON AND WHO CONDUCTED THE TRAINING.
NOW, THEY SAY THAT THEY DID 11 HOURS WORTH OF TRAINING AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANY.
WE CAN WRITE THAT IN THEIR REPORTS RIGHT NOW.
>> IT'S NOT LIKE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE TRAINED AT THE SAME TIME.
>> MAYBE IT WILL SEND YOU SOME ALERT THAT NEW ENTRIES OF TRAINING HAD BEEN PUT IN.
>> OH, YES. I THINK I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW.
THEY ACTUALLY ALL CAN BE DOING ON THE CYSTS.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONLINE TRAINING THAT'S ACTUALLY WORKING?
>> THEY ACTUALLY ALL CAN DO IT.
IT IS A NATIONAL SYSTEM, SO YES, EVERY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS CAN BE ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM TAKING THE TRAINING AT THAT THE EXACT SAME TIME.
THAT SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY RECORDS EVERYTHING FOR YOU.
THERE'S NOTHING THEY'VE GOT TO ENTER.
IF WE ASSIGN THEM A CLASS ITS OWN THAT SYSTEM, THE DOCUMENTATIONS ALREADY DONE.
IF THE CLASS TAKES AN HOUR, THEY CAN'T SAY THEY SPENT TWO HOURS ON IT BECAUSE THE COURSE ONLY LASTED AN HOUR.
YES, EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT CAN BE ON THE SAME THING.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M ASKING IF WE CAN USE THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS OF THE RADIO PROJECT TO START THIS PROJECT UP TO GET IT STARTED AND IT SAYS 57,000 AND THEN IT'D BE 50.
BUT AFTER THE CUTS WE MADE IN THE PROGRAMS WILL GET RID OF IT'S ONLY ABOUT 25,000 YEARLY.
IN ADDITION, NOW WE'LL ADD, EVEN IF I'VE PUT THE VOLUNTEERS ON OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, I BELIEVE WE LOOKED AT TARGET SOLUTION AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I'M A LITTLE BIT OFF.
IT WAS ABOUT 20,000 JUST TO PUT EVERYBODY ON THE SYSTEM.
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>> WHAT IS THE ROUGH CONTINGENCY FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE ON THAT RADIO PROGRAM, DO YOU KNOW RIGHT OFF? IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE.
>> I JUST HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS TONIGHT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT LEFTOVER [OVERLAPPING]
>> MR. CARMICHAEL, THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM.
ITS ATTACHMENT A IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALL TO READ, BUT [OVERLAPPING] IT DOES SHOW YOU WHAT THE BUDGET BALANCE IS FOLLOWING THIS REQUEST IF [NOISE] APPROVED.
>> I SAID IT DOES ALIGN US WITH THE STATE THE STATE OFFICE EMS SNIFFERS, THE NATIONAL DATABASE, IT PUTS THIS IN THERE.
THE STATE OFFICE EMS EVEN TOLD US THAT IF WE GO TO THAT FIRST INITIAL COMPUTER ITS NOT THAT WE REALLY NEED THEM AND GET THEM ANYWAY.
FIRST INITIAL COMPUTERS OR TABLETS FOR ALL OF OUR UNITS WILL BE FREE.
>> NOT TO LAST ADVISORY BOARD MEETING THE ONE BEFORE WHEN YOU HAD TO STATE REP COME UP HERE.
>> IF I DIDN'T MISUNDERSTAND HIM, HE MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT GOING FORWARD, THE STATE FROM MONIES AND TRAINING THEY GOT, THEY WILL NO LONGER TAKE WHOEVER WANTS TO SIGN UP IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PREREQUISITES THAT IS DOCUMENTED TO PROVE THAT YOU HAD THEM.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO JUMP AHEAD AND TAKE SOMEBODY ELSE'S SPOT TO TAKE BLAME IN THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS.
WE'VE GOT SOME EXCITING TRAINING PROGRAMS I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT IS ALREADY GOING ON.
>> ARE YOU SAYING IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, THE STATE WON'T RECOGNIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
>> OH, THEY'LL RECOGNIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
>> I'LL ACCEPT IT. PROBLEM IS I'M USING THREE DIFFERENT DATABASES TO PULL IT AND RIGHT NOW, [OVERLAPPING] FROM THE TRAINING ASPECT OF IT.
THE VOLUNTEERS ARE NOT IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM AND TO PUT THEM IN THERE IS APPROXIMATELY $20,000. THERE'S YOUR DIFFERENT.
>> WE RUN THREE DIFFERENT SYSTEM OF WORK AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PULL A VARIANT OFF FOR THREE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND HOPE YOU GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
>> IT IS LESS THAT ANSWER BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S IN ONE AND OUR MISS BECCA FRANCHAC, WHO DOES OUR EMS BILLING, ACTUALLY LOVED IT, BECAUSE SHE ASKED ACTUALLY TWO SCREENS, DO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND READ A REPORT.
THIS ACTUALLY DUMPS EVERYTHING AUTOMATICALLY IN IT SO SHE CAN DO I'M JUST MAKING UP A NUMBER.
IF IT TAKES THEM AN HOUR TO DO A CHART AND YOU GET IT DONE IN 15 MINUTES.
>> I THINK THE OTHER KEY THING IS FOR YOUR BILLING TODAY, IF SOMEONE FAILS TO COLLECT SOME INFORMATION, YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO BILL. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS A STRONG, STRONG POTENTIAL, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS INTEGRATION THAT IT USES WITH HL7 FORMAT FOR THE HOSPITALS WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT THAT INFORMATION WILL COME OVER AND ALSO EVEN HELPS US WITH OUTCOME.
IF WE SAID SOMEBODY HAD A HEART ATTACK AND THEN IN THE GAS, IT SHOWS UP ON OUR END.
I CAN ACTUALLY GO BACK AND SEE THAT LATER.
[NOISE] YES, ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE HOSPITAL IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST ENTERED TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, THE ONLY THING THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT IS GETTING THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, TELEPHONE NUMBER AND THAT'S THE SHEET THAT WE GET.
THAT'S ALL OF US PRETTY MUCH ON IT.
LATER THE HOSPITALS GOT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET PAID, THEY GET ALL THAT INFORMATION AND THEY EVEN HAVE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HELP THEM GET INSURANCE SOMETIMES IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT, BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW.
NOW IF THEY DO THAT, THE SYSTEM WORKS.
LIKE THEY SAID, IT WILL DUMP INTO OUR SYSTEM.
>> YOU KNOW OF JURISDICTIONS THAT'S USING THIS TODAY?
>> I USED IT AND A LOT OF THE AGENCIES I USED IT.
>> HOW FREQUENT AS THE UPGRADES.
THAT MAYBE MR. BROWN KNOWS HE'S BEEN TO THAT.
>> MOST OF THE UPGRADES THAT WE DO EVEN WITH OUR CURRENT ARE JUST AUTOMATIC, THAT THERE'S NO FEES TO THEM.
>> NO MORE EXTRA SOFTWARE AND NO MORE ACCURATE UPDATES EVERY THREE.
>> IT DOES HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER MODULES, BUT I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY OF THOSE.
ON YOUR PACKET, BUT IT DOES SAY WE'RE ASKING FOR SCHEDULING.
THE SCHEDULING SOFTWARE ON THIS QUOTE IS FOUR TIMES HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE USING.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CHANGE THAT LINE.
IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY TO CHANGE TO THE BILLING SOFTWARE BECAUSE THEY WERE CHARGING US $11,000 FOR THE SCHEDULING PROGRAM AND WE CURRENTLY ONLY PAY THREE.
>> NOW THE REASON I ASKED BECAUSE, WHEN WE DID THE RADIO SYSTEM, HOW EXPENSIVE IT WAS BUT THEN WE SHOWED THEM WARRANTY AND ALL THOSE AGREEMENT AFTERWARDS.
IT'S LIKE WE BOUGHT A WHOLE NEW RADIO ASSISTANT.
>> I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S GOING. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN.
>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SHOCK WITH YOU WILL NOT SEE IN THIS.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THE SERVICE AGREEMENT, A WARRANTY AND THE NECK COMES TO BE DOUBLE OF WHAT WERE, [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S PRETTY MUCH IT'S JUST REPLACED WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE WITH THE SAME SYSTEM.
[NOISE] SINCE THIS COMMONWEALTH AND ALL OF VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA ACTUALLY PAYS FOR THE EMS PORTION OF IT FOR ALL EMS SERVICES THAT WANT IT.
>> PERFECT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
>> WE HAVE A RESOLUTION. MOVE TO ACCEPT.
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>> HEARING? NONE CAUSE ROLL, PLEASE.
WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE FIRE EMS DEPARTMENT TO COMPLETE AND SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION FOR A SAFER STAFFING.
>> YES, SIR. ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR I DID THIS BUT I WAS NEW AND IT CAME OUT A LITTLE BIT TOO QUICK BEFORE I COULD COME TO YOU ALL.
WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS LAST YEAR.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PRINCE GEORGE FIRE EMS IS RECEIVED SAFER GRANT MONIES FOR QUITE SOME TIME THROUGH RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AND THE GRANT FOR THE CIPHER FOR FIRE PERSONNEL IS GOING TO BE OPENING UP.
WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS THE APPROVAL OF PRINCE GEORGE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO PURSUE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OFFERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY AGENCIES, FEMA, ENTITLED BASICALLY, AS A STAFFING FOR FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE SAFER GRANT.
WHAT THE GRANT DOES IS IT COVERS THESE POSITIONS, WE'RE ASKING FOR NINE POSITIONS.
IT WILL COVER THESE POSITIONS FOR THREE YEARS AT 100 PERCENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THEIR BENEFITS.
IT'S AVERAGES A THREE-YEAR TOTAL IS 2,424,168 DOLLARS, BASICALLY 808,000 A YEAR THROUGH THE FEMA.
NOW, DURING THE THREE-YEAR LIFE FOR THE GRANT, LIKE I SAID, IT COVERS 100 PERCENT OF THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS, AND COVERS ALL THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS MUCH COUNTY, THAT SEE, I'M MESSING THIS UP.
IT DOESN'T COVER 53,000 DOLLARS A YEAR.
>> IT WON'T PAY FOR OVERTIME RELATED TO THOSE FIREFIGHTERS.
>> IT JUST DOESN'T COVER THEIR OVERTIME.
IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST THE COUNTY FOR THOSE NINE PEOPLE 53,000 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS, AND THEN WE'D END UP ASSUMING IT.
NOW, THE PRINCE GEORGE FIRE EMS CAREER STAFF WAS AFTER FOUR STATIONS.
WE OPERATE AS A MODEL THAT YOU GUYS MAY KNOW WHICH BASICALLY IT'S CALLED DUAL FUNCTION.
THERE ARE ONLY TWO FIREFIGHTERS AT EVERY CAREER STATION, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS IF AN AMBULANCE CALL COMES OUT, THE CREW GETS ON AN AMBULANCE.
NOW THE ENGINE IS NO LONGER STAFF.
NOBODY'S THERE TO ANSWER THE CALL.
IF THEY GET ON AN ENGINE, THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO STAFF THE MED UNIT.
WHAT THIS WILL DO IS IT WILL TAKE OUR BUSIEST STATIONS, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS FIVE AND EIGHT, IT WILL PUT FULL-TIME PEOPLE ON ENGINE 8 SO THAT IT'S STAFFED 24/7.
WHAT WE DID IS WE DID A SHORT ANALYSIS TO SEE JUST HOW OFTEN THIS TRUCK WAS LEFT UNSTAFFED ON STATION 8, AND THIS GETS A LITTLE MUDDY.
IF I START CONFUSING PEOPLE, PLEASE TELL ME.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE RESPONDING TO CALLS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE RESPONDING TO SO MANY CALLS, NOT EVEN IN THEIR IMMEDIATE TERRITORY BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY THERE IN THE TERRITORY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN.
WHAT WE DID IS LIKE FOR ENGINE 5, WHICH COMPANY 5 IS ACTUALLY OUR BUSIEST STATION IN THE COUNTY BY A LONG SHOT.
WE TOOK HOW OFTEN THE ENGINE WOULD NOT BE STAFFED AND WE FOUND 2,280 HOURS, APPROXIMATELY 95 DAYS, THERE'S NOBODY ON THAT ENGINE.
STATIONS 6 WAS LEFT ON STAFF 1,992, 83 DAYS UNSTAFFED.
ENGINE 7, 1, 561, 65 DAYS UNSTAFFED.
ENGINE 8, 1, 933, 81 DAYS UNSTAFFED.
NOW, THIS WASN'T BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE STAFFING.
THE TWO PEOPLE AT THE STATION WERE THERE.
>> BUT THE VOLUNTEERS STEPPED UP AND FILLED THE VOID.
>> NOT ON THESE. NO, SIR. DID NOT.
>> THERE IS NO VOLUNTEERS AT STATION 6, 7, OR 8.
>> THEY ARE AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING OUT.
THAT'S THE PART THAT GETS A LITTLE MUDDY. THEY'RE TONED OUT.
THEY HAVE A LONGER RESPONSE TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING TO A JURISDICTION AREA THAT'S NOT THERE.
IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON, YOUR HOUSE IS BURNING INSTEAD OF A FIRE ENGINE GETTING THERE IN SIX MINUTES, THE AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR SOME OF THE VOLUNTEER STATIONS IS ABOUT 6-8 MINUTES JUST TO GET IN ROUTE.
WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ON SCENE WITH 14 PEOPLE IN 10 MINUTES, 14 APPARATUS.
>> WOULD YOU RUN AN ENGINE WITH AN AMBULANCE TO A SERIOUS CALL? [NOISE]
>> THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE TWO ENGINES AND AMBULANCES GO.
CARDIAC ARREST IS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NOW JUST TWO AMBULANCES.
TO KEEP THE AMBULANCE IN SERVICE, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO THE ENGINE, CAR ACT WITH ENTRAPMENT WOULD BE AN ENGINE, AMBULANCE, HEAVY RESCUE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT VARIES ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
BASICALLY WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS THIS WHAT ACTUALLY STAFF THIS ENGINE.
IT WILL REDUCE OUR RESPONSE TIMES.
WE ACTUALLY TRIED THIS A LITTLE BIT JUST TO SEE HOW IT WORKED WITH SOME PART-TIME PEOPLE.
OF COURSE ALSO, THE MORALE BOOST IS SO MUCH BETTER BECAUSE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO 100 PERCENT OF THE CALLS REGARDLESS, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'VE GOT TO PREPARE FOR.
AM I GOING DO A MEDICAL, OR AM I GOING DO FIRE? I HAD IMPLEMENTED A PROCESS TO WHERE ALL THE CAREER STAFF HAVE NO LESS THAN TWO MINUTES TO GET OUT THE DOOR.
WELL, THEY WEREN'T MEETING THAT. THEY WERE GETTING OUT FOR ABOUT 4-5 MINUTES.
THEY WEREN'T MEETING THE TWO MINUTES.
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THEY GOT DOWN TO ABOUT TWO MINUTES 30, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT TWO MINUTES AND 14 SECONDS.THEN THEY EXPLAINED IT TO ME AND I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS, WE CAN'T GET OUT IN TWO MINUTES BECAUSE WE GOT TO TAKE ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT OFF THE OTHER UNIT TO PUT IT ON THE UNIT THAT NEEDS TO RESPOND.
I GAVE THEM THE 14 SECONDS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT.
>> I GUESS THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT AND I READ IT SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE WEEKEND.
I THINK IT'S A [INAUDIBLE] REPORT, SO IN EIGHT YEARS, WE WILL HAVE A LARGER POPULATION THAN THE TOWN OF CHARLOTTESVILLE.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT MORE SQUARE MILES.
YES, IT'S GOT A PRICE TAG TO IT.
BUT IF WE DON'T PLAN FOR IT SO WE CAN BUDGET FOR GOING FORWARD TO ACCEPT IT.
MY HONEST OPINION ONLY WAY I CAN PUT IT BACK AND THERE'S NO DISRESPECT FOR IT, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME BOAT THAT WE WERE IN UTILITIES.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SENT HERE CHASING THE RABBIT.
DON'T WANT TONS OF MONEY AND STUFF TRYING TO CATCH UP.
MY OTHER CONCERN IS NOT GOING TO BE WAY OFF PACE WITH US.
WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE UNFORTUNATELY THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, TO GET A LOT OF MONEY, WHICH HELPED US OUT HUGELY WITH UTILITIES FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE COULD USE OUR MONIES FOR.
IF YOU'D LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AND I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ANYBODY OUT BY NAME, THAT ARE HAVING TROUBLE OR STRUGGLING, MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT SOME OF THIS MONEY WOULD DRY UP FOR US BECAUSE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB AND WE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE COMPARED TO SOME OTHER LOCALITIES WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO GET GRANTS GOING FORWARD.
WE MAY HAVE NOT HAD THE BEST OPPORTUNITY.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WE WILL GET THIS.
BUT WE ARE IN A GOOD STATE FINANCIALLY.
STAFF, EVERYBODY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. [OVERLAPPING]
>> ANYTIME YOU CAN GET A GRANT.
>> I KNOW LONG-TERM. I MEAN, WE GOT SEVERAL YEARS TO PLAN FOR IT OR WHOEVER IS SITTING UP HERE, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL BE PUTTING THEM IN A POSITION WHERE THERE COULD BE SUCCESSFUL AND HAVE SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE END OF IT, IN ALL HONESTY.
>> WITH KIDS, FAMILIES, COMMITMENTS AND WORK, AND NOT EVERY JOB.
[LAUGHTER] IF THEY FROWN ON YOU'RE NOT JUST GOING TO SAY, I GOT RUN TO YOUR CALVARY BACK IN AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS AND NOT COME BACK AT ALL.
>> WELL, WE PUSH PUBLIC SAFETY AND PROVIDING SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS AND ANYTIME WE CAN PICK UP A COUPLE OF MINUTES COULD SAVE A LIFE, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.
>> ALL THE TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB.
>> THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD AT THIS ALL BOARD AND PRIOR OF SUPPORTING THAT.
>> THE OTHER CHANCE THAT WE DIDN'T GET IT LAST YEAR ENHANCES OUR CHANCE TO SAY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT DOES. WE ACTUALLY LOOKED.
I'M NOW THE CHAIR OF THE CENTRAL REGIONAL CHIEFS ASSOCIATION.
RICHMOND GOT LIKE 70 POSITIONS AND THE REASON THEY WERE SO SUCCESSFUL IS THAT THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH NEW POSITIONS.
>> SEVENTY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HIRING.
DUNWOODY AND ALL OF THEM, THEY'RE INCREASING.
I WAS TOLD ONE MUNICIPALITY AND SINCE I DIDN'T HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THEIR CHIEF YET IS GETTING 21 NEW CAREER FIREFIGHTERS PER EVERY STATION THEY'RE BUILDING AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING TWO OF THEM.
>> IF WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THIS GRANT, NO DIFFERENT THAN A POLICE OFFICER, TO TRAIN THEM AND GET THEM FULLY FUNCTIONAL TO RESPOND.
>> WHEN I CAME MY TEAM AND I DEVELOPED A WHOLE NEW RECRUIT PROCESS.
EVERYBODY COMES ONLINE FULL-TIME ACTUALLY HAS TO GO THROUGH A 16-WEEK TRAINING PROGRAM.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS IS BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY, IF I MAY, I'LL TAKE THE HIT FOR IT.
I THOUGHT WE CAN MAKE AN ADVANTAGE.
A GUY WAS A PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTER FOR FIVE, 10 YEARS? COULDN'T GRASP ANYTHING.
>> WHICH YOU KNOW ON THE FLIP SIDE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE DO MAKE THEM GO THROUGH THERE IF NOTHING ELSE, IT'S A REVIEW. THEY HAVE FUN.
THEY LEARN. IF WE HAVE TO TEST THEM OUT AT THE FIREFIGHTER, WATER FIREFIGHTER TOO.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO END UP WITH EVERYBODY HIRING.
THERE IS A LOT OF FIRE STATIONS AND CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT ARE INCREASING AND INCREASING THEIR CAREER STAFF OVER THEIR VOLUNTEER AND WE CAN'T FIND HARDLY ANYBODY. WE ARE LUCKY.
>> I TALKED TO A FRIEND OF MINE AND HIS SON CHANGED JOBS AND WENT, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S RIO RANCHO, FULLY CERTIFIED FIREFIGHTER AND RANCHO REQUIRED HIM TO GO THROUGH MAY NOT BE 16 WEEKS, BUT HE'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE EXACT SAME TRAINING PROGRAM AS A NEW HIRE.
THE ONLY ADVANTAGE IS DEPENDING ON HOW HE DOES THEY MAY LET HIM TEST OUT AND GRADUATE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT HE CAN'T CIRCUMVENT.
HE CAN'T BRING HIS CERTIFICATES FROM THIS LOCALITY AND COME TO RANCHO, THEY WON'T ACCEPT IT.
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>> WELL, OUR INTENTION IS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY IF WE GET DEPENDING ON WHAT THE POOL LOOKS LIKE.
LET'S SAY WE GET ALL NINE THAT ARE UNTRAINED AND EVERYTHING. IT TAKES 16 WEEKS.
WE START OFF WITH EMS, WE TEST THEM.
THEY DON'T PASS EMS, THEIR NO NEED TO GO TO FIRE.
THAT WHOLE PROGRAM IF THEY HAVE TO BE TESTED OUT, THEN THEY GET TESTED THROUGH VDFP AND THEY HAVE TO GET TESTED THROUGH THE STATE.
IF THEY'RE ALREADY CERTIFIED, THEN THEY STILL GO THROUGH THE 16 WEEKS WHERE THEY GO ON THROUGH AND GETTING THEM PRECEPTOR THEY'RE RIDING THIRD, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LET ME TO USE THIS WORD, THEY'RE UNPRODUCTIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE RIDING ON THE TRUCKS, BUT THEY'RE NOT VERY USEFUL BECAUSE THEY'RE LEARNING AND THEY'RE GETTING CHECKED OFF.
>> IT'S FOR THEIR SAFETY. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT IS. THIS IS TO MAKE SURE.
THE LAST RECRUIT CLASS WE DID, WHEN YOU GUYS GAVE ME THE THREE, WE HAD FIVE PEOPLE IN THAT CLASS.
I'M INCLUDING SOME PART-TIMERS AND I THINK THEY ALL PASSED EXCEPT FOR ONE.
IT WAS AN EYE-OPENER TO THEM BECAUSE WE TESTED THEM EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
THEY HAD WRITTEN EXAMS AND PRACTICAL EXAMS THAT THEY HAD TO COMPLETE BEFORE THEY MOVED ON.
THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE NOW, THEY'RE PERFECT.
>> IT'S SMART TO TEST AT THE BEGINNING.
>> WE WENT THROUGH A PHASE, HIRED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND TESTED THEM, AND THEY WAITED TO TRAIN THEM ON A FORKLIFT UNTIL THE END, THEY COULDN'T PASS A FORD TRUCK, SO THEY COULDN'T HIRE THEM.
THEY FLIPPED IT NOW. NOW YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH FORKLIFT TRAINING BEFORE YOU GET TO TRAINING YOUR PROCESSES.
>> VERY GOOD. IS A RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET.
[OVERLAPPING] MOTION IS SECOND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. I CAN'T THANK YOU, GUYS ENOUGH.
>> SIR. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE AND MR. WITTEN.
THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, AS YOU KNOW, RECEIVED PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE OPERATIONS CEASEFIRE GRANT.
THAT GRANT WAS AWARDED FOR A TWO-YEAR PERIOD.
WE'RE COMING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO ASK FOR THE APPROPRIATION, FOR THE AMOUNT OF THE GRANT MONEY THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY EXPAND IN THIS FISCAL YEAR BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 30, AND TO MAKE A MODIFICATION TO THE POSITION CONTROL CHART FOR THAT GRANT FUNDED FULL-TIME ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY THAT IS SHARED WITH THE CITY OF HOPEWELL, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IN THE AMOUNT THAT WE ESTIMATE TO EXPAND THIS FISCAL YEAR IS $62,499.
THAT IS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES GRANT.
>> QUESTION. IS THIS SHARED EQUALLY BETWEEN THE TWO LOCALITIES? LIKE THERE IS 2499696, IS THAT SPLIT BETWEEN US AND THE OTHER LOCALITY?
>> WE ACTUALLY ARE THE FISCAL AGENT.
THE POSITION IS ENTIRELY GRANT-FUNDED, SO THERE IS NO CONTRIBUTION FROM US AND THE CITY OF HOPEWELL WE ARE PROVIDING OFFICE SPACE.
I'M IMAGINING BOTH LOCALITIES WILL FURNISH SOME SUPPLIES FOR THAT POSITION.
>> SALARY AND BENEFITS IS 100 PERCENT FUNDED BY THE GRANT.
>> AND HOPEWELL HAS ACCEPTED IT AS WELL?
>> CORRECT. THAT POSITION MS. PHARAOH INDICATED THAT PERSON HAS BEEN HIRED AND WE'LL START ON THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY OR JANUARY 31ST. ONE OF THE TWO.
>> THEY'RE JUST USING PRINCE GEORGE AS A HOME-BASE.
YOU'RE READY FOR A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL ME THIS ONE IS FEBRUARY 14TH. ARE YOU?
>> [LAUGHTER] DOING A LITTLE EXERCISE WITH YOUR BODY.
>> I HAVE TO GET TO USE THOSE STEPS.
IT'S NOT STEPS ON THIS [LAUGHTER] YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE. THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CHANGE THE POLLING LOCATIONS FOR THE REEVES IN JEFFERSON PARK PRECINCTS.
WALTON ELEMENTARY IS CURRENTLY THE POLLING LOCATION FOR THE REEVES PRECINCT AND THE SCHOOL WAS SCHEDULED TO CLOSE.
THIS YEAR THE KIDS ARE MOVING, I BELIEVE FEBRUARY 20TH, THIS WEEKEND.
THEY'RE MOVING INTO THE NEW SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE ROAD ELEMENTARY.
FAITH BAPTIST CHURCH ON MIDDLE ROAD IS THE CURRENT POLLING LOCATION FOR THE JEFFERSON PARK PRECINCT.
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THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE REAR BASEMENT ENTRANCE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MANY PARKING SPOTS ON THE BACK.YOU HAVE TO WALK DOWN A STEEP HILL WHICH CAN BE HARD WHEN IT'S RAINING OR ICY WEATHER.
THERE ARE ADA CONCERNS BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED PARKING.
THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SECURE TO NEW LOCATIONS.
THE REEVES POLLING LOCATION WOULD BE SACRED HEART CATHOLIC CHURCH, WHICH IS LOCATED ON ROUTE 462, COUNTY DRIVE, AND THE JEFFERSON PARK PRECINCT POLLING LOCATION WILL BE THE NEW MIDDLE ROAD ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO OPEN IN FEBRUARY.
TO MAKE THE CHANGES, THE BOARD WOULD NEED TO AMEND COUNTY CODE SECTION 30 DASH 62, TO DOUBLE THE POLLING LOCATIONS.
THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE WOULD THEN MAIL THE LETTERS TO THE PUBLIC WHO USES THESE PRECINCT LOCATIONS TO ADVISE THEM OF THE NEW POLLING LOCATIONS.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 28TH.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE AFTER THE SPECIAL ELECTION OR THE FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS SO AS TO NOT CONFUSE ANY OF THE VOTERS WHO ARE VOTING FOR THAT OPENING.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THEY'LL STILL HAVE TIME TO GET ALL THE NOTICES ALL OUT BECAUSE I KNOW SHE SPOKE TO THAT WHEN SHE SPOKE TO US ABOUT REALLY MOVING US ABOUT THE TIME IT WOULD TAKE.
EVEN IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE 28TH, THEY'LL STILL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET TO THERE.
>> YES. I SPOKE TO BARBARA TAB AND ALLEN RICHARDSON AND THEY BOTH SAID THEY WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET OUT THE NECESSARY NOTICES FOR THE [OVERLAPPING] PRIMARY SOMEBODY TO THE NEXT ELECTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
[Additional Item]
>> THEN WE HAVE THE ADDED A15 RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE A FOOTNOTE IN SECTION 90 DASH 709 AND 90 DASH 723 FRONT WITH THE DATE CHANGED.
>> YES SIR. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PASS THE FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 13TH.
THIS WAS AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION RULED THE FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE.
WE HAD GONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF REVIEWS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION, AND THEY MISS THE FACT THAT THEY HAD GIVEN US THE INCORRECT DATE, THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR THE FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAPS.
THE DATE THEY GAVE US WAS JANUARY 12TH OF 2023 AND THE CORRECT DATE WAS FEBRUARY 9TH OF 2023.
AFTER I SENT THEM THE FINAL ORDINANCE, THEY SAID THE DATE WAS INCORRECT AND WE NEEDED TO CHANGE IT BEFORE THEY COULD SEND IT TO FEMA.
WHAT I PROPOSED, RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AGAIN, SINCE IT'S JUST A MINOR CHANGE, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS THAT WE ADD THE AMENDED DATE IN THE ORDINANCE AND THE TWO DIFFERENT PLACES AND THAT WE ADD A FOOTNOTE STATING THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED RESOLUTION TODAY TO CHANGE THE DATE FROM JANUARY 12TH TO FEBRUARY 9TH AT 2023.
THE RESOLUTION WOULD AUTHORIZE THAT INSERTION, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION.
>> SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ADJOURN UNTIL TO THE 24TH. I'LL BE OKAY.
>> THAT'S 24TH, I WAS TRYING TO JUMP A MONTH.
>> GLAD YOU DIDN'T SAY FEBRUARY 14TH.
>> GOOD MEETING GUYS.
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