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[CALL TO ORDER]

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CALL TO ORDER THE JUNE THURSDAY, JUNE 23RD, 2022 MEETING OF THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? . IT IS TIME IF EVERYONE WILL RISE.

WE'LL HAVE THE INVOCATION BY MR. JOYNER AND THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG BY MR. BROCKWELL. AS WE GATHER THIS EVENING TO CONDUCT A BUSINESS OF PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHERE WE ASK THE LORD FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND HELP THAT THE DECISIONS THAT WE MADE WILL BE THE RIGHT DECISION.

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

GOD BLESS THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED.

AMEN.

. COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.

[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]

IF IT'S SUITABLE WITH EVERYONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE AGENDA TO BE ADOPTED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THE AGENDA BE ADOPTED.

SECOND.

MOTION BY MS. ELDER, SECONDED BY MR. BROCKWELL. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PERIOD.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS ON ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR BEING HELD AS A PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.

IF YOU DO COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM? WE'RE NOT RUNNING ZOOM TONIGHT.

THERE BEING NO ONE, I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS ADOPTION OF THE APRIL 28TH BUSINESS MEETING.

[ORDER OF BUSINESS]

YEAH. WE'LL FORWARD YOU THOSE MINUTES, LOOK THEM OVER.

IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEY BE APPROVED.

AND THIS IS FOR THE APRIL MEETING.

I MAKE A MOTION TO THE APRIL 28TH BUSINESS MEETING MINUTES BEFORE AS WRITTEN.

I'LL. SECOND MOTION BY MS. ANDREWS AND SECOND BY MYSELF.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

THERE'S NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THEIR APPROVAL.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE ADOPTION MAY 26, 2022 BUSINESS MEETING MINUTES. SECOND.

MOTION, MADEMOISELLE.

THE SECOND MR. BROCKWELL.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

I'VE JUST DONE THAT.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR US NOW? A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

OKAY. GOT IT.

HEARING AIDS. OKAY.

I MEAN, I CAN COME UP CLOSER.

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COME ON A LITTLE CLOSER IF IT'LL HELP YOUR HEARING.

I JUST CAN'T HEAR YOU BACK THERE.

THAT'S GOOD. THE NEXT ORDER IS THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

THE FIRST ONE IS SPECIAL EXCEPTION OF CHRISTOPHER AND MARICELA CLARK TO PERMIT A GOLF COURSE IN A RURAL RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.

JUST A SECOND. STILL BRINGING UP THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN BRESKO, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

MR. WHITTEN.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST OF CHRISTOPHER AND MARICELA CLARK FOR GOLF COURSE, AND THAT'S IN THE ZONING DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 48 AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE ON GOLF COURSE DRIVE AND AS IDENTIFIED AS THREE TAX MAP NUMBERS THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.

AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP HAS THIS AREA PLANNED FOR AGRICULTURAL USES.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE A LOCATION MAP OF THE PROPERTY.

THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED IN THE CENTER OF THE IMAGE AND IT'S SOUTH OF GOLF COURSE DRIVE AND ACCESSED OFF OF GOLF COURSE DRIVE.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP RIGHT IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION WITHIN THE COUNTY, THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE COUNTY.

AGAIN. HERE'S ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT.

48 AND A HALF ACRES OUTLINE IN BLUE.

THIS IS ON THE ZONING MAP.

AND THIS PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND RESIDENTIAL.

AGRICULTURAL. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPERTY WITH AN AERIAL VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE THE IT IS PART OF THE FORMER PRINCE GEORGE GOLF COURSE.

SO AS I MENTIONED, USE OF THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY WAS GOLF COURSE.

AND ALSO PART OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY INCLUDES THE CHESTER PLANTATION HISTORIC BUILDING.

AND SO IT'S BEEN USED IN THE PAST AS AN ASSEMBLY HALL OF GATHERING PLACE, BASICALLY.

SO THE ENTIRE PARCEL INCLUDES MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AND INCLUDING PART OF THE AREAS OF THE FORMER PRINCE GEORGE GOLF COURSE.

AND LAST YEAR THERE WAS A SPECIAL EXEMPTION APPROVED FOR AN ASSEMBLY HALL AND BEDROOM NUMBER FOR ROOMS RENTAL IN THE MAIN BUILDING. AND AFTER THAT, AND LEADING INTO THIS YEAR, THERE WAS A SUBDIVISION, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION OF THE FORMER GOLF COURSE PROPERTY, AND THE APPLICANTS PURCHASED LOTS, ONE AND TWO OF THAT SUBDIVISION.

AND LOT ONE IS A LARGE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION RIGHT NOW INCLUDES THE FORMER CLUBHOUSE BUILDINGS.

SO THE APPLICANTS WANTED TO REOPEN A NINE HOLE GOLF COURSE USING PART OF THAT FORMER PROPERTY.

SO PUTTING IT BACK INTO THAT USE.

AND SO THEY SUBMITTED A SPECIAL EXEMPTION APPLICATION.

ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO NEW BUILDINGS PLANNED AT THIS TIME.

THEY WILL USE THE EXISTING PARKING AREAS AND THEY PLAN TO HAVE DAYS AND HOURS OF OPERATION ARE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 7 A.M.

TO SUNSET WITH ONE NEW SIGN THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED.

ON THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THE AERIAL VIEW AND THEY'VE DRAWN ON HERE THE LAYOUT, JUST A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT OF HOW THAT GOLF COURSE WOULD BE LAID OUT.

YOU CAN SEE THE RED IS THE THE HOLES AND THE BLUE ARE WALKING PATHS BETWEEN THE HOLES.

ALL RIGHT. AND THE YELLOW NUMBERS ARE EACH INDIVIDUAL HOLE ON THAT COURSE AS THEY HAVE IT PLANNED.

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ALL RIGHT. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE RECTANGULAR PARCELS ARE THOSE NEW RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT WERE RECENTLY DIVIDED OFF USING THE FORMER GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS JUST A CURRENT VIEW.

THEY'RE GOING TO REACTIVATE THE USE OF THESE BUILDINGS FOR THIS REQUEST.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE CHESTER PLANTATION BUILDING IN THE BACKGROUND, WHICH WOULD BE USED AS ONE OF THE CLUBHOUSES.

AND THE BUILDING IN THE FOREGROUND HERE WOULD ALSO BE USED AS A CLUBHOUSE.

COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF.

WE LOOKED AT THE EXPECTED IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND ROADWAYS.

THOSE ARE PRIMARILY EXPECTED TO BE TRAFFIC, BUSINESS TRAFFIC, WHICH WOULD NOT BE IN ANY INCREASE OVER WHAT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE WITH THE FULL SIZE GOLF COURSE.

SINCE THIS WILL BE A SMALLER SIZE GOLF COURSE.

AND OF COURSE, WITH ANY GOLF COURSE, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR STRAY BALLS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

AND STAFF HAS A RECOMMENDED CONDITION SO THAT THE OWNER WILL ADDRESS THAT IF THE NEED ARISES.

STAFF FOUND THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS.

THERE'S NO CHANGE NECESSARY FOR THE ZONING.

THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

IT'S A SPECIFIC REQUEST FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE.

AND WE FOUND THAT IT'S THE NATURE OF THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES IN THAT AREA, WHICH ARE THERE NOW AND WILL GROW AS THAT SUBDIVISION GROWS.

AND THEN WE FOUND THAT IS GENERALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE FUTURE AGRICULTURAL LAND USE, WHICH WHICH ALSO INCLUDES LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES.

OTHER DEPARTMENTAL REVIEWS.

THESE WERE PRETTY STANDARD COMMENTS.

THE APPLICANT WILL WORK WITH AN AUTHORIZED SPECIALIST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PRIVATE SEWER AND WELL SYSTEMS WILL ACCOMMODATE THE CUSTOMER TRAFFIC. THAT'S EXPECTED.

AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION NOTED THAT A SPECIFIC TYPE OF ENTRANCE IS NECESSARY.

AND THIS IS THIS IS A STANDARD REQUIREMENT.

THEY'LL, THE OWNER AND WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH VDOT TO MAKE SURE THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET IF THEY ARE NOT ALREADY.

AND SO THAT VDOT HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION.

STAFF HAS A LIST OF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SOME OF THOSE ARE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU.

JUST FORMALIZING THE FIRST ONE HERE IS JUST FORMALIZING THE HOURS AND DAYS OF THE WEEK.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS MAKING SURE THAT THE PRIVATE WATER SEWER SYSTEMS ARE INSPECTED.

AND NUMBER THREE IS NOTING THAT THE BUSINESS SIGNAGE WILL BE LIMITED TO 60 SQUARE FEET OF THE SIZE OF THE NEW SIGN, WHICH IS SMALLER THAN THE MAXIMUM THAT'S ALLOWED FOR A BUSINESS, A FULL SIZE BUSINESS.

THAT'S AN EFFORT TO KEEP THIS IN, TO KEEP CONSISTENT WITH THIS AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA.

AND THE OWNER NUMBER FOUR HERE, THE OWNER SHALL HAVE EFFECTIVE MEANS TO PREVENT BALLS FROM CROSSING ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, THEN THE COUNTY CAN HOLD THEM TO THIS CONDITION.

TO TAKE ANY CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT'S NEEDED.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS REQUEST IS APPROVAL, AND THAT'S BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT APPEARS TO STAFF TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH CURRENT AND FUTURE SURROUNDING USES.

THERE'S A HISTORY OF GOLF COURSE OCCURRING ON THIS SITE, AND THERE'S NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK THAT STAFF RECEIVED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THERE ARE THOSE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT IT'S AS DESCRIBED IN THIS APP, THAT IT WOULD PLAY OUT AS DESCRIBED IN THIS APPLICATION.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR STAFF.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GRAVES? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND THIS TIME, THIS BEING A PUBLIC HEARING, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL. DO YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK? STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND LIMIT YOUR TALKING TIME TO 3 MINUTES.

IT IS OPEN.

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NO ONE. THERE BEING NO ONE, I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR OPINION AND VOTE.

I MOVE TO FORWARD REQUEST SE22-05 TO THE BOARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND THE REASONS FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION ARE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CURRENT SURROUNDING USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS.

IT IS EXPECTED TO BENEFIT THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE EXPECTED OFFSITE IMPACTS APPEAR TO BE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED BY THE CONDITIONS.

MOTION BY MR. BROCKWELL.

SECOND BY MRS. ANDERSON CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD DETERMINATION BY THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION ON WHETHER THE LARGE SCALE SOLAR FACILITY PROPOSED BY POWELL CREEK SOLAR LLC AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION REQUEST SA22-02 ON TAX MAP 27-003-0 IS IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD WITH THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE MAP INDICATES THE PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR AGRICULTURAL USES AND THE SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY SETTING POLICY PROVIDES GUIDANCE FOR THE SETTING OF NEW FACILITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY.

MR. GRAVES? THANK YOU.

JUST TO INTRODUCE THIS BRIEFLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR POTENTIALLY TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EACH SOLAR FACILITY.

THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THIS REQUEST THAT I'M GOING TO GO INTO RIGHT NOW AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT IS THIS REQUEST IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND IF THE COMMISSION APPROVES THIS REQUEST, THEN OR IF THE COMMISSION DOES FIND THAT IT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD, THEN WE'LL GO INTO A MORE OF A REVIEW OF THE SITE DESIGN.

WELL, YOU WILL SEE THE LAYOUT AT THAT TIME, BUT THIS IS JUST IS IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? SO JUST TO GO OVER THE CODE REQUIREMENTS BRIEFLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MUST MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD DETERMINATION AND THE COMMISSION'S DECISION MAY BE APPEALED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IF THE APPLICANT IS UNSATISFIED WITH THE DECISION.

THAT'S AND THOSE ARE CODE SNIPPETS THERE.

THIS IS A LOCATION MAP OF THE PROPERTY.

THE SPECIFIC PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE SOLAR PANEL FACILITY WOULD BE ON IS OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY, AND PART OF THAT IS ALONG JAMES RIVER DRIVE.

THAT IS THAT SITE AREA.

THERE IS ABOUT 47 ACRES.

THE TOTAL PARCEL SIZE IN RED IS 631 ACRES.

THIS IS A CLOSER IN VIEW OF THE GENERAL AREA WHERE THE PROJECT WOULD BE BUILT ON THAT SITE.

AND THIS COLORING IN THE BACKGROUND IS THE ZONING MAP.

THIS AREA AND THIS PROPERTY IS A ONE GENERAL AGRICULTURAL.

THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.

IT'S ALSO GREEN.

BUT THIS GREEN COLOR REPRESENTS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THIS AREA AND THIS PROPERTY IS PLANNED FOR AGRICULTURE USES.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT RED OUTLINE OF THE ACTUAL SPOT WHERE THE PANELS WOULD BE DEVELOPED.

STAFF REVIEWED THIS REQUEST WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE KEY PARTS OF THE PLAN THAT WE HAD TO RELY ON TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THIS.

THE FIRST PART IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

AND AS WE AS WE SAW, THIS AREA IS PLANNING FOR AGRICULTURE USES.

AND ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS CATEGORY INCLUDES LAND AREAS IN THE RURAL PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY WHERE AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTAL USES ARE AND SHOULD BE THE

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DOMINANT LAND USE.

LARGE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT MAY EXIST WITHIN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PROPERTIES IS NOT ENCOURAGED.

SO STAFF'S FINDINGS BASED ON THIS GUIDANCE IS THAT THIS REQUEST IS FOR ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE TOTAL PARCEL SIZE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE DOMINANT LAND USE OF THIS PROPERTY TO REMAIN IN AGRICULTURE USE OR TO BE USED FOR AGRICULTURAL USE IN THE FUTURE IF IT IS NOT ALREADY.

ADDITIONALLY, AFTER THE DECOMMISSIONING OF THE FACILITY, AFTER ITS EXPECTED LIFE OF 35 TO 40 YEARS, THE LAND COULD THEN POTENTIALLY, IF IT IS, IF THE FACILITY IS REMOVED AS PLANNED, THEN THE LAND COULD BE RETURNED TO AN AGRICULTURAL USE THEN.

SO OVERALL STAFF FOUND THAT THIS IS.

THIS REQUEST IS SUPPORTED BY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OR IT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH IT.

THE OTHER GUIDANCE THAT STAFF HAD TO RELY ON IS THE SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY SITING POLICY, WHICH IS OFFICIALLY PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THIS IS THE KEY GUIDANCE THAT THE COUNTY HAS AND IS INTENDED TO KEEP THE APPLICANTS AND THE COUNTY ON THE SAME PAGE AS FAR AS WHERE THE APPROPRIATE SITES ARE, APPROPRIATE AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE SOLAR FACILITIES ARE PREFERRED IN THIS COUNTY. SO ON THIS TABLE, YOU CAN WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH JUST THE BREAKING OUT, EACH PIECE OF GUIDANCE THAT PERTAINS TO THE SIZE AND THE LOCATION OF THE FACILITY WITHIN THE COUNTY.

SO THE FIRST PIECE OF GUIDANCE IS THE COUNTY ACREAGE LIMIT, AND THE COUNTY DESIRES TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF ALL SOLAR FACILITIES NOT COVERING A LAND AREA, MORE THAN TWO 2.74% OF THE COUNTY.

SO THAT'S ALL SOLAR FACILITIES COMBINED.

SO THIS PROPERTY WOULD NOT PUSH THE COUNTY OVER THAT LIMIT.

SO THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT NUMBER TO THE MINIMUM TOTAL PARTIAL ACREAGE FOR A SOLAR FACILITY, ACCORDING TO THE POLICY IS 70 CONTIGUOUS ACRES FOR THE TOTAL AREA.

THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL AREA COVERED BY PANELS.

THAT'S THE TOTAL PARCEL WE'RE WORKING WITH.

AND THIS ONE IS 631 ACRES, SO IT MEETS THAT.

NUMBER THREE, THE POLICY ASKS THAT THE, TO AVOID THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA.

IT STATES SITING OF A FACILITY WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA SHOULD BE AVOIDED AND THIS REQUEST IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE PLANNING PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA.

NUMBER FOUR OUTSIDE OF PUBLIC SERVICE, FUTURE PUBLIC SERVICE AREAS.

PUBLIC SERVICE GENERALLY MEANS HERE MEANS WATER AND SEWER UTILITY AREAS.

AND IT SAYS THE POLICY SAYS LOCATION OF FACILITIES WITHIN AREAS PLAN TO BE SERVICED BY PUBLIC WATER OR WASTEWATER AS INDICATED.

AND THE MOST CURRENT WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN WILL BE DISCOURAGED AND WILL NOT BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.

NOW, THIS REQUEST IS NOT IN THOSE AREAS, SO IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

THE NEXT PIECE OF GUIDANCE IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE THAT MASS GRADING OF SITES SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.

DEVELOPMENT OF AREAS WITH STEEP CONTOURS SHOULD SHALL BE AVOIDED.

AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN THE AREA THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD, THE SOLAR PANELS, THIS DEVELOPMENT AREA DOES NOT HAVE STEEP CONTOURS THAT REQUIRE MASQUERADING.

SO IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

AND NUMBER SIX, IT SHOULD AVOID SITES LOCATED NEAR RECREATIONAL, CULTURAL OR HISTORIC RESEARCH SHOULD BE AVOIDED.

THAT'S GENERAL LANGUAGE THERE.

NONE. THERE'S NO NATURAL PROTECTED RESOURCES ON SITE, ACCORDING TO A DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION STUDY AND THE NEAREST PUBLIC.

RECREATIONAL RESOURCE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF IS THE JAMES RIVER WILDLIFE REFUGE, WHICH INCLUDES A WALKING TRAIL.

AND OF COURSE THE LARGE PROPERTY IS DEDICATED TO WILDLIFE REFUGE, BUT THAT'S 1.5 MILES AWAY TO GET TO THAT.

SO STAFF'S OPINION ON THIS, IS THIS PROPOSED FACILITY IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES, BECAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND ITS SIZE AND LOCATION ADHERE TO THE GUIDANCE OF THE SITING POLICY.

SO THIS IS JUST STAFF OPINION AND IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DETERMINATION AT THE END OF THE DAY FOR THIS.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS TOPIC THAT I'VE JUST GONE OVER.

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QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS.

THIS BEING A PUBLIC HEARING.

HEREBY OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYONE TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS SUBSTANTIAL RECORD.

IF YOU DO. STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND LIMIT YOUR TALK TO 3 MINUTES.

I HEREBY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE ALLOWED THE CHANCE TO SPEAK FIRST DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THEY DESIRE TO.

OK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UNDER OUR BYLAWS, THAT STATES APPLICANT SHOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK FIRST.

DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK? JUST OFF THE CUFF. THERE'S THE PRESENTATION OF THE.

WE WILL SPEAK AFTER HE SPEAKS NEXT IF WE.

THERE BEING NO ONE HERE TO HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD.

AT THIS TIME. I TURN THAT OVER TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

AND WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT REQUEST SA 22-02 IS IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE GENERAL GUIDANCE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE PROPOSED SIZE AND LOCATION OF THE FACILITY ADHERES TO THE GUIDANCE OF THE SITING POLICY REGARDING PLACEMENT OF NEW FACILITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY. SO AGAIN, MOTION IS ELDER.

SECOND BY MR. BROCKWELL CALLED ROLL PLEASE.

CALL]. THANK YOU.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE SPECIAL EXEMPTION FOR THE POWELL CREEK SOLAR LLC REQUEST A SPECIAL EXEMPTION TO PERMIT A LARGE SCALE ENERGY FACILITY IN AN A-1 GENERAL AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.

MR. GRAVES? ALL RIGHT.

AND THIS IS A CONTINUANCE OR EXPANSION OF THE TOPIC.

WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING THAT SAME PROPERTY.

THERE'S THE LOCATION MAP AGAIN.

THERE'S THE ZONING MAP AGAIN.

THERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S MOSTLY GRASS RIGHT NOW WITH SOME TREES ON PART OF THE AREA THAT'S PLANNED TO BE DEVELOPED.

THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.

THEY RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM STAFF IN DECEMBER AND THEY SUBMITTED THEIR FORMAL APPLICATION IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

THEY LED THEIR OWN COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON MARCH 2ND AND MARCH 15 OF THIS YEAR AT BURROWSVILLE RURITAN CLUB.

JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE REQUEST.

IT'S FIVE MEGAWATTS SOLAR ENERGY GENERATING FACILITY.

AGAIN, THERE'S 47 ACRES PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, INCLUDES PANELS, FENCING, ACCESS ROADS AND BUFFER AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.

THE TOTAL PARCEL SIZE IS 631 ACRES, AND THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY IS A COMMUNITY SOLAR GARDEN, WHICH ALLOWS OFFSITE ENERGY CUSTOMERS TO SUBSCRIBE TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ENERGY OUTPUT OF THE FACILITY IN EXCHANGE FOR CREDIT ON THEIR ENERGY BILL.

THIS IS CLASSIFIED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS A LARGE SCALE SOLAR FACILITY.

AND THAT'S ANYTHING THAT'S OVER.

THAT'S BASICALLY A SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY THAT'S OVER TEN ACRES IN SIZE.

THE DRAFT CONDITIONS AND THE PRELIMINARY LAYOUT OF THIS FACILITY WERE PREPARED BY THE APPLICANT IN EFFORT TO COMPLY.

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AND THIS PROJECT IS NOT EXEMPT FROM PAYING MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAXES.

SO IT WILL PAY THAT REVENUE TO THE COUNTY.

THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY IS BEFORE YOU.

NOW YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE SPLIT INTO TWO TWO AREAS OF SOLAR PANELS WITH AN AREA WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IN BETWEEN THEM WHERE THE WILDLIFE CAN PASS.

AND THERE'S A ROAD TO GET INTO THE FACILITY FOR FOR MAINTENANCE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SAME AS THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE, BUT WE'LL CONFIRM THAT LATER.

THE THEY HAVE PROVIDED SOME PHOTO ILLUSTRATIONS AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE ALONG JAMES RIVER DRIVE THOSE ARE WHERE THE PHOTO REPRESENTATIONS WERE TAKEN FROM WHICH WE'LL SHOW IN A SECOND.

THERE ARE VEGETATED BUFFERS WHICH ARE BASICALLY TREES AND SHRUBBERY WHICH WILL OBSCURE THE VIEW OF THE FACILITY.

THEY WILL ALSO HAVE SCREENING IN THE FORM OF A FENCE WITH WINDSCREEN ON IT BEHIND THE TREES.

SO THE GOAL IS SO THAT THE FACILITY IS EFFECTIVELY OBSCURED BEHIND THIS FOLIAGE AND FENCING FROM WHEN ANYBODY IS DRIVING ON JAMES RIVER DRIVE OR FROM ANY ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.

SO. HERE'S A PHOTO REPRESENTATION.

THIS IS AN EXISTING VIEW FROM THE HOUSE CLOSEST TO THE FACILITY PROPOSED LOCATION.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS VIEW THE CHANGE.

THERE WOULD BE SOME TREES CLEARED IN THAT AREA, BUT THERE WOULD BE NEW TREES PLANTED AS SCREENING BETWEEN THIS HOUSE AND THE FACILITY AND THE WINDSCREEN THERE TO ON THE FENCE.

I'LL JUST GO BACK OR.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ANOTHER LOCATION.

THIS WAS TAKEN FROM JAMES RIVER DRIVE OF WHERE WHERE THE FACILITY IS PROPOSED TO GO.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE BEFORE AND THIS WOULD BE AFTER 3 TO 5 YEARS.

THIS IS SHOWING THE ENTRANCE ROAD THERE AS WELL.

I'LL GO BACK FORWARD.

YOU SEE, THE NEW TREES PLANTED ARE THAT VEGETATIVE BUFFER SCREENING THAT IS IN BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.

AND PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW COMMENTS THAT ON THIS, JUST SOME OF THE COMMENTS, THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS DURING CONSTRUCTION WILL BE MITIGATED BY A CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH THEY PROVIDED DURING THIS THIS PART OF THE REVIEW.

AND THEY WILL ALSO BE REVIEWED DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, WHICH IN THE SITE PLAN IS A PROCESS THAT COMES LATER ON.

THAT'S A DETAILED STAFF REVIEW OF AN ENGINEERED PLAN WITH DIMENSIONS, DETAILED DIMENSIONS, AND THE VISUAL IMPACTS WILL BE MITIGATED BY THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED VEGETATIVE BUFFERS.

SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE POLICY, IF THERE'S NOT ALREADY TREES BLOCKING VIEW OF THE FACILITY, THEN NEW ONES NEED TO BE PLANTED.

AND THIS IS PLANNED FOR THAT.

AND THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT WILL ENFORCE THAT.

STAFF REVIEWED THIS PROJECT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITING POLICY AND FOUND IT MEETS THE STANDARDS IN THE POLICY FOR DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY.

AND THE APPLICANT HAS MET ALL OF THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS.

APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE HOLDING THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND SUBMITTING A SUMMARY OF THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY RECEIVED AND OF COURSE, MEETING WITH STAFF PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE APPLICATIONS.

SO THOSE THOSE ARE ALL LAID OUT IN THE POLICY AND THE APPLICANT FOLLOWED THAT.

THESE STANDARDS OF THE SITING POLICY WILL BE ENFORCED THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

WE'RE ALSO NOTING ABOUT THE ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACTS IN OUR STAFF REPORT, WHICH YOU RECEIVED LAST WEEK.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE ESTIMATED REVENUE TO THE COUNTY OF OF 868,000 ESTIMATED AND THAT STILL APPLIES. STAFF FOUND OUT OR CONFIRMED THAT PREVIOUSLY WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS THIS PROJECT WAS EXEMPT FROM PAYING TAXES, WHICH WOULD MEAN THE COUNTY WOULD NOT EARN REVENUE FROM THE VALUE OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S ON THE GROUND.

BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT THERE WAS A LAW THAT WAS PASSED DURING THIS THIS REVIEW PROCESS.

AND THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN UNDER REVIEW FOR EIGHT, NINE MONTHS IN TOTAL.

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SO WE MISSED THAT EARLIER ON WHEN THAT CHANGED WHILE THIS WAS ALREADY UNDER REVIEW.

SO THE CORRECT SITUATION IS THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO PAY MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX TO THE COUNTY FOR THE FACILITY.

AND THEY HAVE OFFERED THAT IF THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX IS WORKS OUT TO BE LESS ANNUALLY THAN THEIR CASH PAYMENTS THAT THEY HAD PLANNED AND THEY WOULD PAY THE DIFFERENCE.

SO NO EFFECTIVELY NO CHANGE FROM WHAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE WORK SESSION.

OTHER STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS.

THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION REVIEWED THIS AND THEY FOUND THAT THERE'S NO DOCUMENTED STATE LISTED PLANTS OR INSECTS WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS. THERE'S NO STATE NATURAL AREA PRESERVES AND THAT THEY RECOMMENDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE PROJECT AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PLANTINGS UNDER THE PANELS AND IN THE BUFFERS ARE NATIVE SPECIES SO THAT THEY CAN BLOOM AND ALL SEASONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO THERE ARE CONDITIONS TO ENFORCE THAT IN THE DRAFT CONDITIONS.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION NOTED THAT THE SITE PLAN REVIEW THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE DETAILED REVIEW WILL BE PERFORMED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

SO THEY'LL BE ASSISTING THE COUNTY WITH THAT REVIEW.

AND THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR NOTED THAT THIS PROJECT MAY BE SUBJECT TO ROLLBACK TAXES WHEN THAT USE OF THE LAND CHANGES FROM AGRICULTURAL TO SOLAR PANELS THAT THEY WOULD PAY ROLLBACK TAXES AND THERE IS A CONDITION TO ENFORCE THIS.

THE VDOT NOTED THAT A LOW VOLUME ENTRANCE, A SPECIFIC TYPE OF ENTRANCE, IS REQUIRED AFTER AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE. AND THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED ON THE TRAFFIC CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AND THAT THE PLANS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO VDOT WERE ACCEPTABLE TO VDOT.

AS FAR AS HOW TRAFFIC GOES IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ARE HERE BEFORE YOU NOW.

THEY'RE PROVIDED THE OPERATIONS, BUFFERS, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DECOMMISSIONING.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY REFER TO THE SITING POLICY AND THAT THIS THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS FACILITY WOULD JUST BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE POLICY WHICH THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT.

SO THESE CONDITIONS ENFORCE THAT.

THE THE THE CONDITION IN BOLD WAS MODIFIED TODAY AND THAT'S RELATING TO THAT MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX TOPIC.

AND THIS CONDITION BASICALLY JUST STATES THAT THEY WILL PAY MACHINERY, TOOLS, TAXES TO THE COUNTY AS IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE CODE.

AND IF IT WORKS OUT TO BE LESS THAN THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY OFFERED IN TERMS OF CASH PAYMENTS, THEN THEY'LL PAY THE DIFFERENCE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS SPECIAL EXEMPTION REQUEST IS APPROVAL, AND THE BASIS IS THAT THE SITE DESIGN AND RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ADHERE TO THE GUIDANCE OF THE SITING POLICY AND ESSENTIALLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH YOU'VE JUST FOUND AND IS IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD.

I CAN. I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF ON ANY STAFF QUESTIONS.

I'LL LET THE APPLICANT COME UP HERE AND THEY HAD A FEW SLIDES TO GO OVER AND THEY WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

AND AFTER THE APPLICANTS DONE, YOU COULD ASK THEM QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM.

AND THEN I CAN COME BACK UP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR STAFF.

THANK YOU, MR. GRAVES.

MR. COMMISSIONER.

MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS ANDY HO.

I'M HERE SPEAKING WITH YOU ON BEHALF OF APEX AND OUR LANDOWNER, MR. RONALD RON HERTICK.

VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WHAT WE THINK IS A REALLY GREAT PROJECT FOR VIRGINIA AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS AREA.

APEX JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US.

WE ARE A VIRGINIA BASED COMPANY.

WE ARE LOCATED IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

WHEN I SAY WE'RE EXCITED, WE ARE.

WE CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR BACKYARD.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE TO BE WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THIS COUNTY AND RESIDENTS HERE.

APEX DEVELOPS ALL TYPES OF CLEAN ENERGY PRODUCTS, BUT SPECIFICALLY MY TEAM HERE AND I HAVE A FEW PEOPLE FROM MY TEAM IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.

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WE WORK ON SMALL SCALE PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT TODAY.

SO COMMUNITY SOLAR IS ALLOWED IN VIRGINIA BASED ON STATE POLICY.

AND WE THINK IT'S A REALLY GREAT THING FOR VIRGINIANS AND RESIDENTS, LOCAL BUSINESSES.

THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF COMMUNITY SOLAR OR SHARED SOLAR, AS IT'S CALLED IN VIRGINIA, IS THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES CAN SUBSCRIBE TO THE ENERGY THAT IS PRODUCED BY THIS SOLAR FACILITY.

MANY PEOPLE IN VIRGINIA AND ALL OVER ALL OVER THE US, BUT MANY PEOPLE IN VIRGINIA DO NOT OWN THEIR ROOFS.

LOCKING THEM OUT OF THE ABILITY TO HAVE THEIR OWN SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR ROOFS.

COMMUNITY SOLAR GRANTS.

EQUITABLE ACCESS TO SOLAR ENERGY TO CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY.

WHAT'S WHAT WE THINK IS REALLY GREAT, IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE VIRGINIA'S SHARED SOLAR PROGRAM, IS THERE IS A CARVE OUT FOR LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME INDIVIDUALS, AND WE INTEND TO MEET THAT, IF NOT EXCEED THAT, THAT CARVE OUT.

THE GENERAL, THE KIND OF WHY BEHIND SOMEBODY.

THE WHY BEHIND WHY SOMEBODY WOULD SUBSCRIBE TO THIS PROJECT IS OFTENTIMES IT'S NOT JUST ALTRUISM.

IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT CLEAN ENERGY.

IT'S THAT IT'S ALSO INTENDED TO SAVE THEM MONEY.

AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THEY'RE STILL FIGURING OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT WE ANTICIPATE IT TO BE ABOUT A DISCOUNT OF 10%.

SO IF YOU SUBSCRIBE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE ABOUT 10% ON YOUR ELECTRICITY BILL.

WE THINK THAT'S GREAT.

WE THINK THAT'S GREAT FOR VIRGINIA AND FOR FOR RESIDENTS HERE THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN SUBSCRIBING TO THIS PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT IS FIVE MEGAWATTS SHARED.

SOLAR ALLOWS UP TO FIVE MEGAWATTS AND FIVE MEGAWATTS IN THIS AREA WILL PRODUCE IN ONE YEAR ABOUT ENOUGH POWER TO TO POWER ABOUT 1000 VIRGINIAN HOMES.

JUST TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT.

CONSTRUCTION FOR THE PROJECT WILL LAST APPROXIMATELY 4 TO 6 MONTHS.

AGAIN, MR. GRAVES MENTIONED THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN THAT WE HAVE, WHICH WE WILL ABIDE TO, AND WE WILL DISCUSS FURTHER DURING FINAL SITE, FINAL SITE PLAN ARRANGEMENTS.

AND AS MR. GRAVES SAID TO THE INTENTION IS TO RESTORE THE PROJECT TO AGRICULTURE, TO RESTORE THE LAND TO AGRICULTURE AFTER WE DECOMMISSION THIS PROJECT AT THE END OF AT THE END OF ITS LIFE.

HERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT MR. GRAVES ALREADY COVERED.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE ANTICIPATE.

OPERATIONS BEGINNING AROUND 2024.

IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS, THAT'S ABOUT WHEN WE'RE ANTICIPATING OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF STEPS AHEAD OF US.

BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT.

ONE THING MR. GRAVES MENTIONED, TOO, IT'S THE PROJECT AREA IS ABOUT 47 ACRES, BUT THE PANEL AREA ITSELF, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ABOUT 30 ACRES.

UM, I KNOW WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THERE'S A FEW THINGS HERE THAT I WANTED TO NOTE.

THE EXPANSION OF DIVERSIFIED LOCAL ECONOMY.

THIS PROVIDES AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF REVENUE GENERATION FOR THIS LOCALITY, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TOO THAT THIS IS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT IS AN INNOVATIVE, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LAND USE, JUST BEING SOLAR ENERGY, BEING CLEAN, RENEWABLE ENERGY.

WE'RE AVOIDING NATURAL RESOURCES.

WE'RE AVOIDING WETLANDS.

SO IT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

IN ADDITION, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY SITING POLICY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

MR. GRAVES WAS SHOWING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING.

ALL OF THAT DOES COMPLY WITH WITH THE SITING POLICY, AND WE ARE VERY COMMITTED TO THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE WANT TO PROTECT LOCAL VIEW, LOCAL AND NATURAL VIEW.

ONE THING I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT, TOO, IS WE DID WE HAVE ALREADY CONDUCTED PROFESSIONAL DELINEATION OF WETLANDS OF THE AREA, INCLUDING RPA AREAS.

AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS ALREADY BEEN OUT OUT ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL TO VERIFY THAT.

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SO WE KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT.

WE'RE COMMITTED TO AVOIDING IT, TO CAUSING NO HARM.

MR. GRAVES MENTIONED, TOO, THAT VDOT HAS PRELIMINARILY APPROVED THE SITE LOCATION, THE SITE ENTRANCE, AND THAT WE'RE PROVIDING APPROPRIATE OFF STREET PARKING, INGRESS, EGRESS.

THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION HERE, TOO, IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS VERY REAL.

WE HAVE A FAVORABLE INTERCONNECTION POSITION ON DOMINION LINE, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF BEING PART OF THE SHARED SOLAR PROGRAM.

AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED THAT THIS COULD BE A VERY REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COUNTY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? ON THIS PROPERTY THERE'S 631 ACRES, RIGHT? YES, SIR. THAT'S THE TOTAL PARCEL SIZE.

47. YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO WHAT'S LEFT? WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT AFTER? YEAH. WE INTEND TO RETURN IT TO AGRICULTURE? WHEN WE DECOMMISSION, WE WILL REMOVE.

IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? NO. THE QUESTION IS THE 631 ACRES AND 47 IS GOING TO BE USED.

SO IF IT'S BAD, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT BALANCE OF THAT 630? THE LANDOWNER WILL CONTINUE TO USE IT AS HE'S BEEN USING IT TO DATE.

IT WILL REMAIN AGRICULTURE.

WE WILL NOT BE DEVELOPING ANYTHING ON THAT.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE PERIMETER THAT MR. GRAVES WAS SHOWING ON THAT MAP.

YOU HAVE NO PLANS? WE HAVE NO PLANS FOR.

YES, SIR, WE HAVE NO PLANS.

WE HAVE NO RIGHTS TO GO ON TO THAT AREA OF THAT PARCEL.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE JUST LEASING THE 47 ACRES? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR.

SO. OKAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS THE LANDOWNER.

IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU, HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

SURE. MR. HERITAGE, PLEASE. HELLO.

I'M RONALD HERTICK.

I'M 14921 JAMES RIVER DRIVE.

THAT'S THE TOWN OF VIRGINIA, 23842.

HELLO. PLANNING COMMISSION AND RESIDENTS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.

I'M THE OWNER OF THIS PROJECT.

11 PRINCE GEORGE ALL MY LIFE, I FARMED ALL MY LIFE.

AND NOW ABOUT THE SHARED SOLAR PROJECT.

I'M PROUD TO BE A PART OF VIRGINIA'S CLEAN ENERGY FUTURE.

SOLAR ENERGY REPRESENTS A UNIQUE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR OWNERS IN VIRGINIA AND DEMONSTRATES TO THE NEXT GENERATION HOW WE CAN STIMULATE THE ECONOMY WHILE BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE.

AND THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WILL THERE BE NONE? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANYONE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE 47 ACRE SOLAR FARM.

COME FORWARD TO STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND LIMIT YOUR TALK TO 3 MINUTES.

BEING THE NO ONE.

YES, EVERYBODY'S HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE.

I HEREBY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURNED IT OVER TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR A VOTE.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD MAKE A CLARIFICATION? WE HAD IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN YOU CAME IN TONIGHT THE UPDATED DRAFT CONDITIONS AND THOSE ARE RELEVANT TO THAT TOPIC ABOUT THE MACHINERY AND TOOLS TAX CHANGE.

SO THE APPLICANT PROVIDED UPDATED LANGUAGE THERE AND THE COUNTY STAFF IS IN ACCEPTANCE OF THAT.

SO JUST WHEN YOU MAKE IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, THEN PLEASE USE MAKE SURE YOU'RE REFERENCING THESE REVISED CONDITIONS.

ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE LAND USE TAXES.

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IS THE LAND OWNER OR DOES THE SOLAR COMPANY HAVE TO PAY THEM BACK OR UPDATE THEM? COLLECTIVELY, THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVES THAT.

THERE'S THERE'S A CONDITION THAT PROVIDES EXTRA DETAIL ABOUT THAT NUMBER TO.

RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION ? I MOVE TO FORWARD REQUESTS SA22-02 TO THE BOARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND THE REASONS FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION ARE IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CURRENT SURROUNDING AREAS AND ZONING DISTRICTS IS EXPECTED TO BENEFIT THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

EXPECTED OFF SITE IMPACTS APPEAR TO BE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED BY THE CONDITIONS.

I SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MOTION BY MR. BROCKWELL, SECONDED BY MR. JOYNER. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

CALL]. THANK YOU.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD, A 2202 DETERMINATION FOR A LARGE SCALE FULL SOLAR FACILITY, SPECIAL REQUEST SE22-03. MR. GREEN? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ANDRE GREENE FOR THE MEMBERS.

OH, THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S AN AUDIENCE AND THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS AT HOME.

I AM ONE OF THE PLANNERS FOR THE COUNTY OF PRINCE GEORGE.

I WILL BE PRESENTING THE SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD SA22-02.

AS STATED EARLIER, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD. SO DETERMINATION UP ON.

PHOTO PROJECT IPS SOLAR IS WISHING TO BUILD A FOUR MEGAWATT SHARED SOLAR FACILITY.

ON TAX POLICY.

5100A00-0700. STAFF HAS PROVIDED A LOCATION MAP, WHICH SHOWS THE PROPERTY ALONG CRATER ROAD.

THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE PROPERTY IS 75.436 ACRES, BUT THE FACILITY WILL ONLY ENCOMPASS 26.3 ACRES OF IT.

THE NEXT VISUAL IS A ZONING MAP FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE 70 ACRES IS ZONED OR A RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL. THE NEXT MAP IS THE FUTURE.

THE NEXT MAP IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE YELLOW AREA.

IT SHOWS THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THAT AREA HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE.

RESIDENTIAL USES.

AS INDICATED BY THE LAST VISUAL, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS.

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RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USES CAN RANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS TO MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS A DUPLEX, APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND CONDOS.

AS THE PRIOR ZONING MAP HAS INDICATED, THE SITE IN QUESTION OS ZONED RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL, WHICH ALLOWS HOUSES TO BE BUILT ON FIVE ACRE LOTS.

THE SITE ALSO ADJOINS PROPERTIES ON ALL ONE RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ALLOWS.

BIG DEVELOPMENT ON MUCH SMALLER LOT SIZES.

THE DEVELOPMENT TREND IN THE AREA ALONG ROUTE 31 SOUTH CRATER ROAD IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT'S THAT ARE BUILT ON INDIVIDUAL BLOCKS.

THEREFORE STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED SOLAR FACILITY TO BE.

INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A SOLAR SITE POLICY GUIDANCE.

AND OF THE SIX POLICY GUIDELINES THAT ARE LISTED THE LOCATION FOR THE PROPOSED SORT OF.

FACILITY DOES NOT COMPLY WITH MOST OF THE SIX POLICY GUIDELINES.

THE LOCATION FOR THE PROPOSED SOLAR FACILITY DOES NOT COMPLY WITH POLICY.

NUMBER THREE, WHICH STATES SITING OF A SODA FACILITY IN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA SHOULD BE AVOIDED.

HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE SOLAR SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA.

IN CONCLUSION, IT IS THE DETERMINATION OF STAFF THAT THE LARGE SCALE SOLAR FACILITY PROPOSED BY IPS IS NOT IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE REASONS PREVIOUSLY, PREVIOUSLY, PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, NAMELY BECAUSE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA OF THE COUNTY AND THE SOLAR SITING POLICY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THAT THE LOCATION OF SOLAR.

FACILITIES WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA SHOULD BE AVOIDED.

THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GREEN? WE'RE GOOD.

NO ONE HAS ANY.

AT THIS TIME, BEING A PUBLIC HEARING, I HEREBY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS SUBSTANTIAL RECORD SA22-02 FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS DETERMINATION FOR THE SOLAR FARM.

THIS WAS GREAT.

THIS IS ONLY FOR THE SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD, BUT DOESN'T MATTER.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE IF WE VOTE THIS DOWN.

WELL, I SIT HERE TODAY AND WE'VE SEEN TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES WANT TO PUT SOLAR IN OUR AREA.

ONE IS VERY ON TOP OF IT ORGANIZED THE ONE FOR THIS SITE WE HAVE WE WERE

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SCHEDULED FOR THREE MEETINGS.

YOU KNOW WHO WHEN WE ALL SHOWED UP.

THE THIRD MEETING AND WE GOT THE INVITATION FOR THE MEETING IN THE MAIL THAT VERY SAME DAY.

NOW. HOW ORGANIZED ARE YOU IN THAT? DO THEY REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING? MY SECOND QUESTION IS WE'RE TAKING PRIME, I MEAN, PRIME FARMLAND.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOLARS ON IT? FOR HOW MANY YEARS? 40 YEARS? YES. UNDER SOMETHING BETTER.

LIKE THOSE WINDMILLS.

BECAUSE FARMERS CAN FARM AROUND THEM.

WOULDN'T THAT MAKE MORE SENSE? AND YOU STILL GET YOUR TAXES? WE NEED TO STOP AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

IT'S NOT THAT WE OBJECT TO SOLAR.

BUT WHY TIE UP OUR GOOD FARMLAND FOR ELECTRICITY? WE ASKED SO MANY QUESTIONS AT OUR MEETING.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT 90% OF THE RESPONSES WERE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW. I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT.

YOU REALLY WANT SOMEBODY LIKE THIS IN YOUR COUNTY DOING BUSINESS WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FROM A JUST A NORMAL GUY? WHAT'S WRONG? WE NEED TO OPEN OUR EYES UP HERE, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

FARMING IS A WAY OF LIFE IN VIRGINIA.

IN KANSAS LAST WEEK, HEAT WAVE, OVER 2000 HEAD OF LIVESTOCK DIED.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHORTAGE OF TOMATOES THIS YEAR.

GOT TOO HOT. ARE WE CONDEMNING THE FARMING INDUSTRY IN THE UNITED STATES? WHAT IS ALL THIS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I'M CONFUSED.

I LOVE BEING IN THE COUNTRY.

COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? MIKE SNYDER. SHE'S GOT IT.

SHE'S GOT IT? OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

GILBERT LEE 14019 SOUTH CRATER ROAD.

MAP THAT'S SHOWING ON THE BOARD SHOWS THE WHOLE FARM IS NOT SHOWING WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 20 ACRES.

THEY GONNA PUT THOSE PANELS.

WELL, THE 20 ACRES THEY GONNA PUT THE PANELS ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE ROAD FROM MY FARM.

AND MY BIGGEST OBJECTION ALL ALONG IS THE PANEL IS GONNA FACE EAST AND I'M OVER HERE.

AND AS THE MORNING SUN COMES UP, IT'S SUPPOSED TO TILT AND FOLLOW THE SUN.

BUT I'M FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME, I'M GOING TO BE SITTING OVER THERE LIKE A DEER LOOKING IN THE HEADLIGHTS.

THEY TALK ABOUT THE SCREENING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, WHICH IS FINE, BUT THAT'S GONE SCREEN ANYBODY DRIVING UP AND DOWN 301 THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE PANEL OVER THERE, BUT SITTING IN MY LIVING ROOM, I'M SIX FOOT HIGHER, SO I'M LOOKING OVER TOP OF WHATEVER KIND OF SCREEN THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

MY FAMILY HAS BEEN LOOKING ACROSS THE ROAD AT AGRICULTURAL LAND, FARM LAND FOR ABOUT 200 YEARS.

AND EVERY DAY I SEE WILDLIFE, DEER, TURKEYS, WHATEVER THEY ARE, EATING UP THOSE CROPS THAT THEY PLANT OUT THERE, WHICH ARE A WHOLE LOT BETTER OF YOU THAN LOOKING AT SOLAR PANELS.

BUT WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I FULLY SUPPORT THAT LANDOWNER GETTING WHAT HE CAN AND BEST USE OF HIS LAND.

I WOULD EXPECT THE SAME ON MY FARM IF I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

SO I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE I LIKE LOOKING AT THE DEER AND TURKEYS AND STUFF.

BUT PROGRESS IS PROGRESS.

AND I, LIKE I SAID, I FULLY SUPPORT THE LANDOWNER GETTING WHAT THE BEST USE FOR HIM OF THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE I WOULD EXPECT THE SAME THING IF I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH MY PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE

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? EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YEP. MY NAME IS PAUL VELK.

A LOT OF ALL KNEW MY FATHER, TONY VELK, AND MY BROTHER TONY VELK, JR.

I MARRIED DEBBIE KRINICKI, WHO IS THE DAUGHTER OF FRANK AND ETHEL KRINICKI, WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY TODAY.

I'VE BEEN A LIFELONG CITIZEN, RESIDENT OF PRINCE GEORGE.

MY FAMILY HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS AND CONTRIBUTED A LOT.

FRANK AND ETHEL WANT TO HAND DOWN THEIR FARM, THEIR LAND, TO THEIR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS.

THAT'S THE AMERICAN DREAM.

DEBBIE IS THE SOLE HEIR.

SO DEBBIE WOULD PROBABLY GET THE LAND.

THEY HAVE SAID AS MUCH.

THEY? WE HAD THREE CHOICES TO MAKE.

ONE CHOICE WAS TO CONTINUE FARMING.

I'M NOT A FARMER, AND THOSE OF YOU ALL WHO KNOW ABOUT FARMING IS YOU GOT TO HAVE A LOT MORE MONEY TO BE A FARMER THAN ANY OTHER THING WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND THAT'S NOT A POSSIBLE CHOICE.

SECOND OPTION WOULD BE.

WE'VE ASKED EVERYBODY AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU ALL WANT A NEIGHBORHOOD IN FRONT OF YOU.

DO YOU WANT TO TURN THAT LAND INTO HOUSING? AND NOT ONE PERSON SAID THEY WANT HOUSING.

THE OPTION WOULD BE TO DO SOLAR FARMING.

IT STILL PROTECTS.

THE ANIMALS, PROTECTS THE LAND.

IT DOESN'T DESTROY ANYTHING.

IPS APPROACHED US.

THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

THEY'VE LAID OUT AN EXCELLENT PLAN.

AND IN 35 OR 40 YEARS, WHATEVER THAT TIME IS, IF IT DOESN'T CONTINUE, ALL THEY DO IS PULL THE STAKES BACK UP AND IT GOES RIGHT BACK TO AGRICULTURE AGAIN.

OR AT THAT POINT, SO BE IT.

IF I WON'T BE HERE IN 35, 40 YEARS, IF THEY WANT TO BUILD HOUSES THERE.

BUT UNTIL THEN, I DON'T WANT HOUSES THERE.

I KNOW GILBERT LEE DOESN'T WANT HOUSES AND EVERYBODY IN HERE, NOBODY WANTS HOUSES THERE.

SO THIS IS A PERFECT OPTION.

IT'S A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

THEY'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AND GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH A PLAN TO BE ABLE TO SET IT BACK THE LENGTH OF A FOOTBALL FIELD.

FROM THE HIGHWAY WITH THREE ROWS, BUSHES, TREES.

YES. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THE TREES GROW, BUSHES GROW, BUT EVENTUALLY IT'LL BE COVERED.

EVENTUALLY YOU WON'T SEE IT.

IN 35, 40 YEARS GO, IT WAS BACK TO WHERE IT WAS AGAIN.

BUT IT'S A WAY TO KEEP THE LAND IN THE FAMILY.

IF WE CAN'T KEEP IT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? EVERYBODY IN HERE IS GOING TO HAVE HOUSES IN THEIR YARD.

THEY DON'T WANT THEY DON'T WANT THAT.

ANIMALS CAN STILL WALK AROUND.

THERE ARE STORIES OF TURKEYS AND DEER WALKING AROUND THE FENCE.

STORIES OF TURKEYS AND DEER JUMPING OVER THE FENCE AND LIVING INSIDE THE FENCE.

THAT'S SAFER THAN THE COYOTES CHASING THEM TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, JAKE HAY WITH IPS SOLAR OUT OF MINNESOTA.

WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK TONIGHT AND EVERYTHING.

THERE ARE, OF COURSE, ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THIS PROJECT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS LIKE THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AS PAUL HAD MENTIONED.

DEVELOPMENT IS NOT SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE OUT THERE FOR HOMES.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AS TO ADDRESS THE FARMING ISSUES.

THIS IS WE ARE A NATIONAL SOLAR COMPANY.

TAKING FARMLAND OUT OF PRODUCTION HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH FROM DAY ONE.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE PROPERTY IS NOT BEING FARMED.

IT IS JUST IN GRASSLANDS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT A POLLINATOR SEED MIX UNDER THERE, AS WELL AS A MIXTURE OF HAY OR ALFALFA, WHICH WE ARE WORKING ON DEVELOPING, WHICH WILL BE AVAILABLE.

HEY, YOU CAN GO IN THERE, MOW THIS DOWN AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE.

HEY, SO WE ARE VERY MUCH GOING TO MAKE THIS AN AREA THAT CAN BE FARMED.

IT'S VERY EASY TO DO.

IT'S NOT DIFFICULT. THEY ALREADY CAN GO IN THERE AND MOW THINGS DOWN, SO WE WILL JUST TURN THEM OVER INTO A SMALL SCALE BAILER AND MIX IN HAY OR ALFALFA.

AS FOR THE GLARE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, WE WILL DO A GLARE TEST.

WE ALWAYS DO A GLARE TEST.

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THEY'RE VERY CHEAP AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE.

THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

IF IT IS, WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

WE ARE A 31 YEAR OLD SOLAR COMPANY FROM THE MIDWEST.

VERY SIMILAR VALUES.

YOU DON'T LAST 31 YEARS BY NOT DOING THINGS THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE, AND WE ARE AROUND BECAUSE OF THAT REASON.

THE ANIMALS. YES, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THEY WILL STILL BE ABLE TO GET AROUND.

NO PROBLEM OF THE FENCE.

IT'S A SIX FOOT FENCE.

I HAVE SEEN DEER IN OUR SOLAR ARRAYS BEDDED DOWN.

I HAVE SEEN TURKEYS.

I HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING IN THERE.

AND IT IS IT PROTECTS THEM IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO IN THERE AND THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT, NO PROBLEM AS WELL.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS IS AS SIMPLE AS IT GETS.

STEEL I-BEAMS DRIVEN INTO THE GROUND, NO FOOTING IF THE PROJECT IS DECOMMISSIONED AT THE END OF THE LIFE, IT'S PULLED OUT OF THE GROUND.

IT'S A FLAT SITE, NO GRADING.

IT CAN BE PUT RIGHT BACK INTO AGRICULTURAL USAGE IF THE LANDOWNERS CHOOSE.

THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF MOVING PARTS AND WE DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO MOVE THIS ALONG TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING SO WE CAN ADDRESS THEM, ALL THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMP PLAN WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AS WELL.

BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION AT THE END.

WE'LL COME BACK. GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD. HI. MY NAME IS AMY SIPE.

I'M THE PRINCIPAL ENGINEER AND OWNER OF ACCUPOINTE SURVEYING AND DESIGN.

I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.

I'VE DONE DEVELOPMENT ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND AM A RECOGNIZED ZONING EXPERT, NOT ONLY FOR SOLAR DEVELOPMENT.

I'VE DONE TECHNICAL DEVELOPMENT FOR SOLAR FARMS ALL OVER VIRGINIA, BUT ALSO HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

AND I WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHERE IT'S STATED IT DOESN'T MEET SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD.

THE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP ADDRESSED AS RESIDENTIAL IS LET ME QUOTE THE CODE IS THIS MAP REPRESENTS A GENERALIZED OVERVIEW OF DESIRED LAND USE LOCATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THE MAP IS NOT INTENDED TO BE PARCEL SPECIFIC, SO SOME OF THAT IS A BIT AMBIGUOUS.

WE KIND OF IN LAND USE PLANNING, THERE'S JUST KIND OF GENERAL BROAD SHADED AREAS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DRIVES THIS, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, IS INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE DENSITY AND YOU WANT TO HAVE HOMES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER THAT BE WATER, SEWER, ROADS, ALL THE THINGS THAT ALLOW FOLKS TO LIVE AND WORK IN DEVELOPED AREAS.

THE COUNTY'S FUTURE MAPS THAT HAVE PROPOSED SEWER AREAS AND PROPOSED WATER AREAS, BOTH ARE OUTSIDE.

BOTH STOP SHORT OF THIS AREA.

SO THE PLANNING BY UTILITIES TO SUPPLY THIS AREA DOESN'T MAKE IT TO THIS SITE.

SO SAYING THAT IT'S FUTURE PLANNED FOR RESIDENCES WOULD BE IF THERE WAS NO WATER SEWER, THESE LOTS WOULD ALL BE THEN ON WELL AND SEPTIC. THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SPECIFIC LOT SIZES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITH WELL AND SEPTIC.

YOU CAN'T HAVE TINY, TINY LOTS LIKE YOU WOULD IN A MORE DENSE AREA THAT HAS WATER AND SEWER BECAUSE OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WE FALL UNDER FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

AS SOMEONE WHO'S ALSO DESIGNED SEPTIC AS PART OF THESE PROJECTS AND AS SURE, I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SEVERE LIMITATIONS WITH SOME OF THE SOILS AS SHOWN IN THE MAP OF THE COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, DRAIN FIELDS ARE NOT IDEAL.

THEY DON'T LAST A LIFETIME.

I HAVE MANY, MANY FOLKS ACROSS THE STATE THAT HAVE FAILING DRAIN FIELDS AND THAT CLEARLY LIMITS WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HEAR THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE IS IS RESIDENTIAL.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME NUMBERS IN DIFFERENT PACKETS THAT I'VE SEEN.

BUT TO HAVE ANY KIND OF DENSITY WITH A LACK OF WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO REACH THAT SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.

NEXT. IT'S GOT CAMPBELL 18 130, SOUTH CRATER ROAD, SOUTH PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADD.

THE OTHER COMPANY UP HERE WAS THAT OF A VIRGINIA BASED COMPANY.

THIS COMPANY IS OUT OF MINNESOTA.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE IN MINNESOTA TO PUT THESE SOLAR FARMS? SECOND THING IS, THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT THERE'S NO FARMING GOING ON THIS PROPERTY.

THERE IS SOMEBODY FARMING THIS PROPERTY.

MR. SEAN FINNEY FARMS THIS PROPERTY.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S SO ABSURD.

THE FARM IS BASICALLY BEING FARMED.

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THAT POINTS BACK TO MR. SCHNEIDER'S ARGUMENT. THIS COMPANY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN KEY INFORMATION FOR HIM TO KNOW.

THE SECOND THING IS MIKE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I RUN A BUSINESS TWO MILES DOWN THE ROAD.

I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING THE DAY THEY HAD THE THIRD MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS POSTED ON FACEBOOK.

THE ONLY WAY I KNEW ABOUT THE MEETING.

WE ASKED IN THE MEETING THAT DAY FOR A LIST OF THEIR MAILING LIST.

THEY SAID THEY WOULD GET IT TO US.

I'VE NEVER RECEIVED THAT.

THERE WAS A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN THAT LITTLE MEETING AT THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT ON SOUTH CRATER ROAD THAT HAVE YET TO BE ANSWERED.

I KNOW, HAVE ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED BEEN ANSWERED? I DIDN'T GET ANY OF THAT. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT THE MAN WANTS TO DO WITH HIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S FINE. BUT WHAT I AM AGAINST IS WHEN WHAT SOMEONE DOES ON THEIR PROPERTY IMPACTS SOMEONE ELSE.

MEANING AN ADJOINING LANDOWNER.

MEANING SOMEBODY RIDING UP DOWN THE ROAD.

301 IS A MAIN CORRIDOR.

OUT ON ROUTE TEN, OUT THAT WAY? PERFECT PLACE FOR A SOLAR FARM.

ON ROUTE 301, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS IN FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE WANT BIG BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY, THEY'VE GOT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.

YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO SEE THEM LIVING ON CRATER ROAD, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THEM LIVE SOMEWHERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN AWARDED FOR, THE BEST COUNTY TO LIVE IN.

LET'S REMEMBER THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE BEST COUNTY TO LIVE IN.

I THINK IT WAS ALSO THE BEST COUNTY TO WORK FOR.

LET'S NOT POLLUTE OUR COUNTY WITH SOLAR FARMS. THANK YOU.

MIKE 16121 NORTH BERLIN.

I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT IS.

THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON WHY SOLAR IS BECOMING PRETTY POPULAR IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY OR IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE MOST OF THEM PROBABLY BEING RUN OUT OF CAROLINA. HAVE ANY OF Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO DRIVE DOWN THROUGH CAROLINA AND LOOK AROUND? THERE'S A WIND FARM, A SOLAR FARM.

BUT AS FAR AS YOU CAN SEE EVERYWHERE, I ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO LOOK AT IT, TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.

AND ONCE THE BALL GETS ROLLING, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO STOP.

AND I THINK WE'RE AT THAT STAGE RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS ALLOWED A 100 MEGAWATT SOLAR FARM, TOOK A BUNCH OF FARMLAND, A BUNCH OF TREES DOWN ALONG THE JAMES RIVER. AND YOU ALL PROBABLY AWARE OF THAT.

SO I GUESS MY POINT BEING UP HERE TODAY IS HOW FAR ARE WE WILLING TO GO? HOW FAR ARE WE WILLING TO GO WITH IT? ANYONE ELSE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK YOUR QUESTION? OH, I'M SORRY. ARE YOU FINE? I WAS GOING HELP YOU WITH THE MICROPHONE.

OH, WELL, THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE SOLAR COMPANY GOT UP HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND HE ADDED A LITTLE THING TO HIS SPEECH THAT WE NEVER HEARD BEFORE, THAT HE'S PLANTING GRASS AND WE GO IN THERE AND HARVEST IT.

THAT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED.

HE'S ADDING THINGS AS HE'S GOING ALONG.

YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THIS.

THANK YOU.

WILLIAM FISHER 13571 SOUTH CRATER ROAD, MAYBE NOT EVEN A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THAT LOCATION.

I CAN'T SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OF WHAT A PERSON THAT OWNS A PROPERTY SHOULD DO WITH IT.

BUT THE THINGS THAT I SEE AND WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING IS, ONE, IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO ACCEPT CHANGE.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS LIFE AND THE WORLD IS CHANGING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS FAR AS RESIDENTIAL.

HOW FAIR IS IT TO SAY THAT THAT THE HOMEOWNER OR THAT THE LANDOWNER IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GIVE UP THAT PROPERTY FOR RESIDENTIAL OR FOR ANY PLANNING THAT PRINCE GEORGE WANTS TO DO? I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ON WHAT PEOPLE DECIDE, WHAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AND WHAT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IF IT'S NOT THEIR

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PROPERTY. THAT'S PART OF THE FACT OF WHY WE LIVE IN THE FREE WORLD.

THAT'S OUR PROPERTY.

YOU CAN'T TAKE IT FROM US.

YOU CAN'T DECIDE WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO WITH IT, SUPPOSEDLY, WITHIN REASON, OBVIOUSLY.

MY THING IS IT MIGHT BE AN EYESORE.

IT MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE A LARGE OR ANY KIND OF HOUSING AROUND THERE.

I MOVED OUT HERE IN THE PRINCE GEORGE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PROPERTY AND TO BE AWAY FROM EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SPACE, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T HAVE TO SEE MY NEIGHBOR, EVEN THOUGH I LOVE ALL MY NEIGHBORS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY, THE ONLY THING IS, IS IF THIS DOES GO FORTH, I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THEY NEED TO PUT MORE MATURE TREES IN . THIS STUFF WITH THE WAY THEY WANT TO COME IN AND PUT FOLIAGE IN THREE, FIVE YEARS.

OH, THAT MIGHT BE FINE AND DANDY.

THAT'S IF THEY DON'T DIE.

AND THAT'S ALSO IF THE THEY THEY STAY ON TOP OF IT AND IF THEY THEY REPLANT, IF THEY DO DIE.

SO THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE A LOT MORE MATURE TREES.

AND WITH THAT BEING A MAIN CORRIDOR AND WITH ALL THE STUFF YOU WANT TO DO OFF OF EXIT 45, IS THAT AN IDEA OF A PLUS OR MINUS WITHIN PRINCE GEORGE'S STANDARDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE GOING UP THROUGH THAT THAT ROAD? SO THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ANSWER? A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. OK BEING NO ONE ELSE, I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR AND THE COMMISSION'S INDULGENCE ON COMMENTS BEYOND THE SUBSTANTIAL CORD DETERMINATION. BUT I DO WANT TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE APPLICANT.

AND IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR TAB BEHIND TAB SEVEN.

AT YOUR POLICY GUIDELINES WHERE WE ARE DISCUSSING ARE CONSIDERING WHETHER THIS IS IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD WITH FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS WELL AS THE SITING POLICY.

AND OF COURSE IT IS WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA WHICH IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE POLICY.

THE SECOND CONSIDERATION IS.

FOR. OUTSIDE THE FUTURE PUBLIC SERVICE AREAS AND REFERENCES MADE TO THE CURRENT UTILITIES MAP.

TIM. ARE YOU DRIVING, TOO? ONE OF US IS GOING IN REVERSE.

THE FUTURE PUBLIC SERVICE AREAS FOR WATER AND SEWERS, WHAT THEY TYPICALLY REFER TO.

WE HAVE A CURRENT UTILITIES MASTER PLAN FOR AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE THERE ARE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO EXTEND LINES UNDER OUR CURRENT UTILITIES MASTER PLAN.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA.

THE ENTIRE PLANNING AREA.

IS A IS A PART OF THE UTILITY PLAN.

THE PLANNING AREA, AS YOU AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE WELL AWARE, IS WHERE FUTURE GROWTH.

IS ENCOURAGED.

AS WELL AS PLANNED FOR.

AND AT THIS POINT FOR THIS PROPERTY, IF THEY WANTED TO GO RESIDENTIAL, IT'S NOT THAT THE COUNTY'S UTILITY DEPARTMENT WOULD RUN WATER AND SEWER TO THAT PROPERTY.

THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EXTENDING WATER AND SEWER TO THAT PROPERTY.

SO THE FACT THAT THE CURRENT UTILITIES MASTER PLAN DOES NOT SHOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE UTILITY PLAN OF NEXT YEAR OR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WOULDN'T SHOW FUTURE GROWTH AND SPREAD AS DEVELOPERS INSTALL EXTENSIONS TO THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM.

SO THE PLANNING AREA IS A VERY SPECIFIC AREA WHERE DEVELOPMENT IS ENCOURAGED, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GROWTH IN THE PLANNING AREA AND GROWTH IN THE RURAL CONSERVATION AREA, ROUTE TEN VERSUS 301.

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BUT ALSO THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT OCCUR WITH WELL AND SEPTIC.

IT WOULD BE ON UTILITIES AND IT WOULD BE AT THE DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE CURRENTLY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU HAVE WATER AND SEWER DOWN TO EXIT, WHAT IS IT, 35, 40, 40, WHATEVER.

WELL, IT'S ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT TO PLAN HOW TO GET WATER AND SEWER THERE.

AT THIS TIME, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ON THE SUBSTANTIAL COURT DETERMINATION.

AND AGAIN, IF THIS MATTER MOVES FORWARD, THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD THEN BE HELD ON THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND THE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION WOULD BE HELD AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION AND WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'VE NOTICED IN THE REVIEW ONE OF THE MATERIALS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED IN THE MAPS AND OF COURSE RECOGNIZING THE COMMENTS FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, IT'S APPARENT THAT THESE PARCELS OF LAND WERE ORIGINALLY SMALLER PARCELS OF LANDS THAT HAVE SINCE BEEN COMBINED INTO A LARGER 70 ACRE PARCEL.

AND AS WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS ACROSS THE STREET AND ADJOINING PROPERTIES, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF AGRICULTURAL LAND IN THAT REGION.

I'M JUST JUST CURIOUS IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY FILING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR ZONING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THAT LAND BE REZONE TO BE AGRICULTURAL LAND INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL LAND, OR IF THAT IS EVEN AN OPTION FOR THOSE RESIDENTS OR THAT LANDOWNER, THE LANDOWNER OWNERS OF THE PARCELS CERTAINLY ARE.

IT'S WITHIN THEIR IF THEY DESIRE TO RESUME, THEY COULD APPLY.

THEY HAVE NOT CURRENTLY APPLIED.

NO. AND IT IS TECHNICALLY IT'S OWNED OR A RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE.

IT'S A COMBINED ZONE ZONED AGRICULTURE.

OKAY. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OK CHAIRMAN, JUST IN LIGHT OF THE THE STRICT GUIDELINES THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED BY THE COUNTY AND BOTH OUR PLANNING AND SITING POLICY, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT CURRENTLY THIS DOES NOT FIT WITHIN THE SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD, WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT IS CURRENTLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHICH USED TO BE FOR RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA.

BECAUSE LARGE SCALE SOLAR FACILITY IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE PLANNED FOR THIS AREA CURRENTLY, AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE FACILITY WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA DOES NOT ADHERE TO THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SOLAR ENERGY SITING POLICY, WHICH DOES CLEARLY STATE THAT SITING OF SOLAR FACILITIES WITHIN THE PRINCE GEORGE PLANNING AREA SHOULD BE AVOIDED.

AND JUST CONTINGENT ON THAT, I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION ON BASED ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE NOT.

THAT THIS WOULD NOT MEET THE SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD REQUIRED.

A MOTION BY MS. ANDERSON AND SECOND BY MR. BROCKWELL.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

. SINCE THE SUBSTANTIAL ACCORD HAS NOT PASSED, THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE SUPERVISORS COMMUNICATIONS.

MR. GRAVES.

[COMMUNICATIONS]

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

AND JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

THIS WILL NOT GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

THAT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DETERMINATION THAT THE APPLICANT IS ABLE.

THEY CAN THEY CAN APPEAL IT IF THEY WISH.

OKAY. JUST FOR ANYONE LISTENING.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

COMMUNICATION FROM STAFF FOR ACTIONS OF THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEAL MEETING WAS CANCELED.

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THERE WERE NO CASES.

THERE IS A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JULY.

IT'S A CONTINUANCE OF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE PRIVATE ANNUAL ANIMAL BOARDING PLACE FOR KEEPING A NUMBER OF DOGS ON A SMALL PROPERTY.

THE ACTIONS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SINCE THE LAST MEETING OCCURRED ON SINCE THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCCURRED ON JUNE 14TH, THE BOARD APPROVED THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR THE TRUCK REPAIR TRUCK TRUCKING COMPANY PARKING PROJECT AND FOR UPCOMING CASES.

THOSE ARE A PORTION OF THE APPLICATIONS ARE IN YOUR PACKET AND THE FIRST CASE SCHEDULED, WE HAVE TWO SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH AT THIS TIME AND ONE OF THOSE IS A SUBDIVISION WAIVER PRIVATE ROAD EXCEPTION.

BASICALLY PROPERTY OWNER WISHES TO BE THE FOURTH LOT ON A PRIVATE ROAD.

THE COUNTY LIMITS DEVELOPMENT TO HAVING THREE LOTS ON A PRIVATE ROAD.

AND SO THEY WISH TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT REQUIREMENT.

THE OTHER CASE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH IS THE BURRO BURRO PIT, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHERE THEY DIG DIRT AND TAKE IT ELSEWHERE FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

SO THOSE ARE YOUR TWO CASES FOR NEXT MONTH.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE HEAD OUT OF HERE? ANY QUESTIONS TO ENTERTAIN? A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED. MAKE A MOTION.

WE GET A SECOND.

YOU NEED A SECOND.

SECOND. AFTER I FINISH TALKING TO THE.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BROCKWELL, SECOND BY MS. ELDER TO ADJOURN. CALL ROLL, PLEASE.

. THANK YOU. MEETING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.