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[CALL TO ORDER]
AND I CALLED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING TO ORDER, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MRS. KNOTT.I THINK ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE A CLOSED SESSION, MA'AM.
[CLOSED SESSION]
YES, WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION NEXT.ALL RIGHT. SO COULD SOMEONE PLEASE INTRODUCE THE RESOLUTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER THE PROVISION OF SECTION 2.2-3711 OF THE FREEDOM OF VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT FOR THE FOLLOWING PURPOSE.
SECTION 2.2-3711.8.1 DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINE OR RESIGNATION OF A SPECIFIC PUBLIC OFFICE APPOINTEE, EMPLOYEE OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
I FURTHER MOVE THAT SUCH DISCUSSION BE LIMITED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND SECTION TWO POINT TWO THIRTY SEVEN ELEVEN POINT EIGHT POINT THREE DISCUSSION OF CONSIDERATION OF ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC HELD REAL PROPERTY, WHERE THE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OF NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY.
SUCH DISCUSSIONS SHALL BE LIMITED TO ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. MY MOTION, MA'AM.
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? SESSION. WHAT DO WE NEED TO BRING BACK? IT IS NOW SEVEN O'CLOCK, AND I CALL THE BOARD TO ORDER.
THE BOARD HAS BEEN IN CLOSED SESSION AND JUST CAME OUT OF RECESS, SO I ASK NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR INVOCATION FROM OUR MR..
I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
AND NORMALLY WE DON'T DO IT. WE DON'T NEED IT.
I DIDN'T THINK WE HAD TO HAVE ENOUGH.
PARDON US. WELL, WE HAVE AN INVOCATION NOW FOR MR. BROWN. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU THIS EVENING JUST TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US YET TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR JUST BEING HERE AND PLACING YOUR LOVING ARMS OF PROTECTION AROUND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE CONTINUE TO ASK YOU TO LOOK AFTER THOSE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH ISSUES RELATED WITH THIS PANDEMIC.
AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO BLESS AND LOOK OVER THE FAMILY HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, WHERE THEY LOST THEIR FIVE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER JUST A FEW DAYS AGO OVER AN INCIDENT.
AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE KNOW THAT THEY'LL BE GOING THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT TIMES, BUT IF THEY JUST ALL PUT THEIR TRUST IN YOU AND KNOWING THAT YOU WILL LEAD US THROUGH AND GUIDE US AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'LL STILL MISS THEIR LOVED ONE.
BUT HEAVENLY FATHER, WE KNOW IN THE END YOU WILL HELP THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THIS LOSS AND THEIR GRIEF.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ALSO ASK YOU THIS EVENING TO BLESS OVER THIS BOARD AND ALLOW US TO HANDLE THE BUSINESS OF THIS BOARD IN A PEACEFUL MANNER.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK ALL THIS IN YOUR NAME.
NOW, WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE LED BY MR. CARMICHAEL.
CAN WE GO AHEAD WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM. OH YEAH.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
ALL RIGHT. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BOARD, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
MRS. KNOTT, DID ANYBODY REQUEST TO SPEAK TO YOU?
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NO, MADAM CHAIR. SEEING NO ONE COME FOURTH, I CLOSED THIS SESSION AND ASKED THAT THERE'S ANYBODY ON THE VIRTUAL SESSION THAT WISHES TO SPEAK.GOOD EVENING, ZOOM PARTICIPANTS.
WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND AND THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER AND YOU WILL BE RECOGNIZED.
MADAM CHAIR, THERE IS NO ONE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.
SEEING NO ONE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK, I CLOSED THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MR. STEELE JUST RAISED HIS HAND.
THANK YOU. YES, MR. STEELE, YOU MAY NOW SPEAK.
ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. I'M SORRY, IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I COULDN'T FIND IT ON THE CORNER.
YOU HEAR ME OK, THOUGH, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
OK, VERY GOOD. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND MY FELLOW P.G.
COUNTY CITIZENS WHO ARE WATCHING.
MADAM CHAIRMAN AS WE BEGIN TO PREPARE FOR THE COUNTY'S FY23 BUDGET.
I ASK THAT THIS YEAR YOU, THE BOS, TAKE POSITIVE ACTION TO REDUCE OUR TAX BILL FOR EVERY PROPERTY HOLDING TAXPAYER HERE IN PG COUNTY.
AS YOU KNOW, SINCE THE TIME EACH OF YOU BOARD MEMBERS BEGAN TO SERVE ON THE BOS, YOU COLLECTIVELY AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, HAVE AUTHORIZED THE INCREASE IN OUR REAL ESTATE TAX BILL YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
AS MR. BROWN ALLUDED TO DURING LAST WEEK'S MEETING OR TWO WEEKS AGO MEETING.
WE TAXPAYER PROPERTY HOLDING CITIZENS MUST BE GIVEN TAX RELIEF, AND TO DO THIS, YOU MUST START CUTTING, SPENDING AND REDUCING THIS COUNTY'S BUDGET.
AFTER MEETING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU FOLLOWED UP MR. BROWN STATEMENT BY ADDING THAT THE BUDGET PROCESS IS DIFFICULT, MAYBE.
BUT EACH OF YOU WANTED THE POSITION YOU NOW HOLD.
SO LET'S MAKE THE NECESSARY DECISIONS TO GET TAX RELIEF TO US TAXPAYERS.
THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED YOU TO YOUR OFFICE AND WHO PAYS FOR YOUR SPENDING.
IS IT DIFFICULT? MAY BE IN YOUR MIND. IF SO, I THEN OFFER THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE VERY FIRST ACTION YOU TAKE IN PREPARING AND SETTING FOR THE FY23 BUDGET IS TO SWEAR TO COMMIT TO US TAXPAYERS HERE TONIGHT THAT IF WE'RE FY23, EACH PROPERTY HOLDING TAXPAYER WILL SEE AND WILL REALIZE A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN THEIR TAX BILL THAT YOU PASS OVER LAST YEAR'S TAX BILL.
FIRST FOREMOST, WITHOUT QUESTION, WITHOUT ARGUMENT, NO TURNING BACK.
THIS YEAR, THE TAXPAYER COMES FIRST, AND WE MUST GIVE BACK TO THE TAXPAYER WHO HAS ENDURED YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR UNDER YOUR TUTELAGE [INAUDIBLE] AN INCREASE IN OUR ANNUAL TAX BILL BECAUSE OF YOUR INCREASING SPENDING INCREASES THAT HAVE YIELDED LITTLE BENEFIT TO MOST HARDWORKING, TAXPAYING FAMILIES WHO NEITHER USE NOR RECEIVE THE GOVERNMENT SERVICES OR GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS.
NOW HOW DO YOU DO THIS? WELL, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
ACTUALLY, YOU REPEAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR WHEN YOU, AS A BOARD, ABDICATED JUST A BIT OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS MANAGERS OF OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY.
AS YOU RECALL, LAST YEAR, THIS BOARD COMMITTED TO AND PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT WITHOUT QUESTION DEBATE OR WHETHER NEEDED OR NOT, YOU TOOK TWO CENTS OFF THE EIGHTY SIX CENTS TAX RATE THAT GOES TO EMERGENCY SERVICES.
YOU MADE THIS COMMITMENT BECAUSE AS YOU ALL ADMITTED, YOU AS A BOS CANNOT CONTROL YOUR SPENDING PRIORITIES ENOUGH TO ENSURE THAT EMS WOULD BE PROPERLY FUNDED.
THOUGH I EXPRESS MY DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT RESOLUTION BECAUSE THE BOS SHOULD NEVER PAINT THEMSELVES INTO SUCH A CORNER.
BUT IN OUR CASE, HERE IN PG COUNTY, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE YOU COLLECTIVELY, AS A BOS, HAVE PROVEN YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR THAT YOU ARE INDEED A TAX AND SPEND BOARD THAT YOU CANNOT OR WILL NOT CONTROL YOUR SPENDING.
BUT TO PAY FOR YOUR OTHER SPENDING ACTS, YOU STILL DEMAND FROM US TAXPAYERS MORE AND MORE AND MORE OF OUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO PAY FOR YOUR SPENDING MONEY THAT FAMILY, SENIOR CITIZENS, HARDWORKING FOLKS WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET BECAUSE OF THE RISING COST SO DESPERATELY NEED.
WELL, YOU SET THE PRECEDENT BY THAT RESOLUTION MADAM CHAIRMAN, SO YOU NEED NOW TO FOLLOW SUIT AND DO THE SAME FOR THE TAXPAYER.
YOU NEED TO USE THE SAME RESOLUTION PREVIOUSLY PASSED AND ENSURE THAT WE TAXPAYERS GET RELIEF FROM OUR EVER INCREASING TAX BILL THAT YOU AUTHORIZE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
TO DO THIS, I RECOMMEND THAT ON THE OFFSET.
HERE YOU CREATE A COMMITMENT THAT SET IN THE 23 BUDGET, A GUARANTEED SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN ALL TAXPAYER BILLS OVER 22 TAX BILLS.
DO THIS NOW AND DO THIS AS YOU START TO [INAUDIBLE] TO BE SPECIFIC, I SUGGEST THAT YOU DID WHEN YOU COMMIT A TWO CENTS TO THE EMS, YOU COMMIT SIMPLE TWO CENTS TO REDUCING THE TAX RATE. YOU START BY DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATOR THAT WITH NOTHING OFF THE TABLE THAT CAN BE CUT SERVICES AND STAFFING EXCLUDED, HE HAS TO CREATE A PROPER, WELL-CONSTRUCTED
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DECREMENT LIST USING STANDARD GOVERNMENT MANAGERS DECISION MAKING PROCESS.YOU PRIORITIZE EACH ON THAT LIST AND YOU START CUTTING FROM THE LOWEST PRIORITY AND THEN MOVE YOUR WAY UP THE LIST UNTIL YOU MEET THE COMMITMENT TO GIVE TAXPAYERS SUBSTANTIAL RELIEF BY THIS COMMITTING TO THE TAXPAYER FIRST AND ENSURE THAT TAXPAYERS WILL SEE A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN FY23 OVER FY22 CUT SPENDING AND USE THIS DECREMENTAL LIST TO DO THAT. IF YOU FOLLOW THIS, YOU CAN REALIZE THAT YOU CAN IN FACT REDUCE THE TAXPAYER'S HORRIBLY HIGH TAX BILL AND GIVE US THE RELIEF THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEED AND DESERVE.
YOU START WITH YOUR BUDGET TOMORROW NIGHT.
MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START.
A LOT OF I SEE THE BUREAUCRATS WANT A LOT OF POSITION INCREASES.
MAYBE IT'S TIME WE PUT OUR FOOT DOWN AND SAY NO, DO MORE WITH LESS.
WE'VE DONE THAT IN GOVERNMENT FOR 40 YEARS.
WHEN I STARTED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, LET'S DO IT HERE IN THE COUNTY.
MADAM CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM, NO ONE HAS RAISED THEIR ELECTRONIC HAND.
ALL RIGHT I'LL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]
WE GO NOW TO THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA? MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE AGENDA BEFORE WE ADOPT IT.
MODIFICATION TO THE FY2021-2022 POSITION CONTROL CHART FOR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, SA9.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? MADAM CHAIR, CAN I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT FOR MS. DREWRY? YES.
MS. DREWRY, UNDER THIS NEWER VERSION OF ZOOM, THEIR ELECTRONIC HAND IS UNDER THAT REACTIONS BUTTON.
IT MIGHT MAKE IT SO WHERE SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT SEE A RAISE HAND IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER? OK. OK.
JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW. OK, THANK YOU.
[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]
NOW WE GO TO THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS? SO MOVED.
SECOND. OH, GO AHEAD MR. CARMICHAEL. IT'S BEEN APPROVED AND SECONDED.
DO WE HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS? NO MA'AM. NO, OKAY.
[SUPERVISORS' COMMENTS]
NOW WE GO TO THE SUPERVISOR'S COMMENTS.I'LL START WITH MR. WEBB PLEASE.
MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE NOTHING TO THANK YOU.
THE ONLY THING I HAVE TONIGHT IS JUST ASK FOR YOUR PRAYERS FOR MY MOTHER, WHO IS IN THE HOSPITAL HAS BEEN SINCE WEDNESDAY.
SO OUR FAMILY JUST ASK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. MR. HUNTER.
YEAH, I WOULD ONLY WANT TO SAY WHAT MR. BROWN DID IN HIS PRAYER THIS MORNING OR JUST THIS EVENING REFERENCE TO THE YOUNG GIRL THAT DIED TRAGICALLY BE WITH THEIR FAMILY AND ALL THE LOVED ONES AROUND THE COUNTY THAT WERE CLOSE TO THEM.
AND REMEMBER THAT WE'RE STILL HAVE THE HIGH AREA OF COVID INCREASE.
IT'S DROPPING, NOT DRASTICALLY, BUT IT'S DROPPING A LITTLE BIT.
THANK YOU MR. HUNTER, MR. CARMICHAEL.
ECHO MR. HUNTER, SAME COMMENTS THAT HE MADE, AND AS MR. BROWN GAVE HIS INVOCATION AND PRAYERS TO EVERYONE WHO IS SICK, ILL OR THE FAMILY JUST LOST THEIR CHILD.
I TOO WANT TO WISH YOUR MOM A QUICK RECOVERY, YOUR MOM AND DAD HAS DONE SO MUCH OR HAD SO MUCH INVOLVEMENT IN THIS COUNTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND WE JUST WISH HER THE BEST AND HOPE SHE COMES HOME SOON.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT WE LIKE TO THANK THE LORD FOR ALL OF OUR BLESSINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
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I WOULD ALSO ADD MY PRAYERS TO THE FAMILY THAT LOST THEIR LITTLE GIRL.THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL HAVE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS.
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS]
MR. STOKE.GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. WHITTEN, MY REPORT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
I'LL JUST TOUCH ON A FEW ITEMS FOR TONIGHT.
WE DO CONTINUE WITH THE BUDGET FY23, BUDGET PREPARATION.
TOMORROW'S MEETING DOES START AT FIVE O'CLOCK RIGHT HERE, FEBRUARY TWENTY FOURTH, THERE WILL BE A GRAND OPENING RIBBON CUTTING FOR CHILLING AND GRILLING SHACK ON JEFFERSON PARK ROAD THAT WAS THE FORMER LOCATION OF JERRY'S BURGER SHOP.
FEBRUARY TWENTY EIGHT THERE'LL BE A COVID 19 VACCINATION AT PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL COMMONS FROM 4 P.M.
ALSO ON THE TWENTY EIGHTH IS A DRUG COURT GRADUATION AT THE PRINCE GEORGE CIRCUIT COURT AT 4 P.M..
MARCH 1ST, WE CONTINUE THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BUDGET PREPARATION AND THEN ON MARCH 4TH AND 5TH IS THE STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THE CENTRAL WELLNESS CENTER.
AND THAT IS TO SET OUT A COUNTY WIDE STRATEGIC PLANNING TO SET UP THE FY24 BUDGET.
AND THEN MARCH NINTH, THE PRINCE GEORGE FIRE EMS NEW HIRE GRADUATION CEREMONY WILL BE AT THREE P.M. RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR TONIGHT, MADAM CHAIR.
[REPORTS]
NOW WE WILL GO TO OUR REPORT SECTION.WE'LL HAVE A REPORT FROM MR. SIMMONS ON THE FLEET GARAGE EXPANSION UPDATE.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE, MR. WHITTEN, I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH MY REPORT WITH FLEET GARAGE EXPANSION.
PUT A LITTLE INFORMATION IN Y'ALLS PACKET ON THAT.
WE DID SIGN A CONTRACT WITH LOCKRIDGE COMPANY TO DO THIS PROJECT.
THE CONTRACTOR HAS STATED THAT THE MATERIALS FOR THE BUILDING, THE ACTUAL METAL BUILDING ITSELF IS GOING TO BE EIGHT TO NINE MONTHS TO GET IT.
SO THAT'S GOING TO WHAT THAT MEANS TO US.
IT'S GOING TO DELAY THE START OF THE PROJECT ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.
THEY'RE GOING TO START THE PROJECT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO GET THE SHOP DRAWINGS AS SOON AS THE SHOP DRAWINGS ARE ISSUED. THEY'LL ORDER THE BUILDING AND THEN THEY'LL START THE PROJECT ABOUT FOUR MONTHS PRIOR TO THE BUILDING BEING DELIVERED.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS TO US IS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE START OF THE THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND STARTING IN JUNE OR JULY MID-SUMMER FOR THIS PROJECT.
I ALSO WANT TO GIVE YOU A REPORT ON PRINCE GEORGE REGIONAL HERITAGE CENTER, THE ROOF REPAIR. WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ENGINEERS TO GIVE US BACK INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE START THIS REPAIR, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE PROJECT AS OF STARTING FROM THE ROOF DOWN, AND THE VESTIBULE REALLY HAS NO HISTORICAL ROOFING ON IT.
SO WE WANTED TO START THE PROJECT, GO AHEAD AND START THERE BECAUSE THAT ROOF NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO THAT'D BE LIKE PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT START ON THE VESTIBULE ROOF.
AND SO WE WENT OUT TO OUR CONTRACTORS ON CALL AND GOT A PRICE TO REPLACE THE VESTIBULE ROOF TO INCLUDE THE COPING STONE AROUND THE TOP OF THE ROOF, WHICH THE ORIGINAL REPORT FROM THE ENGINEERING FIRM SAID THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN OFF AND REPAIRED AND RESET AND REPLACING THE FLASHING UNDERNEATH THAT THOSE COPING STONES AND REPORTING SOME MORTAR JOINTS RIGHT ABOVE THE ROOF LINE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
SO WE GOT A GRAND TOTAL OF THAT REPAIR FOR THE ROOF OF THAT PART OF THE BEST FOR THE VESTIBULE ARCADE ROOF FOR THIRTY THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS.
AND WE ANTICIPATE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS WITH THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO A TESTING FOR ASBESTOS AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND ONCE WE PULL THE ROOF OFF. SO THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IS THROUGH THE TOURISM FUND AND WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL A HEADS UP THAT WE PLAN ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS WITH THIS FIRST STEP OF THE WORK AT THE HERITAGE CENTER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ANYTHING ON THIS? ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM, I'M GOOD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SIMMONS. THERE ARE NO POSTPONED ITEMS.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS (Part 1 of 2)]
WE NOW GO TO OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS.A1, RESOLUTION AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A ONE TIME WAIVER OF SECTIONS
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82311A AND 82591 OF THE CODE OF THE COUNTY OF VIRGINIA FOR TAX PARCEL 340.MR. HALTOM. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS BOARD, MR. STOKE AND MR. WHITTEN.
VERY SIMILAR TO A PRIOR REQUEST WE HAD RECENTLY, WE HAVE MR. NELSON CUNNINGHAM, WHO IS INTENDING TO DEVELOP A TAX PARCEL THAT'S LOCATED ALONG CHUDOBA PARKWAY TO RELOCATE HIS BUSINESS THAT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED IN CHESTERFIELD COUNTY.
HIS BUSINESS IS FOCUSED ON AUTOMOTIVE RESTORATION AND SPECIALIZING IN DETAILING AND HIGH END WORK OF AUTOMOBILES AND SPECIFICALLY WITH VINTAGE VEHICLES.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY DOES HAVE SOME CAPACITY ISSUES THAT ARE HAVING AN EFFECT ON SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT NEED SUFFICIENT WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY.
AND IN ORDER FOR MR. CUNNINGHAM TO BE ABLE TO SECURE FUNDING FOR HIS DEVELOPMENT, HE HAS TO HAVE RELIABLE WATER SOURCE IDENTIFIED.
SO THEREFORE HE IS ASKING US TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE [INAUDIBLE] ORDINANCE, WHICH IS OF SECTION 82-3111 AND 82-591 TO ALLOW THE USE OF A PRIVATE WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEM TO SERVE THIS PARCEL UNTIL WATER AND WASTEWATER ARE AVAILABLE TO THIS PARCEL.
THE APPROVAL OF AN AUDIENCE IS REQUIRED AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING, AND FOR THIS ONE TIME WAIVER TO THE COUNTY CODE.
AND TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING FOR A REQUEST TO ADVERTISE THAT PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MARCH 22 BOARD MEETING. THIS WAIVER WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE THE BENEFITS OF THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS IN LIEU OF DELAY IN THIS BUSINESS UNTIL THE NEW CAPACITY BECOMES AVAILABLE, WHICH WE PROJECTED WOULD BE ABOUT 24 TO 36 MONTHS TO BUILD A NEW FACILITIES TO PROVIDE THAT NEW CAPACITY.
AND THE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AT THIS TIME, THEY DO INTEND TO PAY THOSE CONNECTION FEES WHEN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OR ONE TIME WAIVER TO THE ORDINANCE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD? NO, MA'AM. NO MA'AM.
IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS I MOVE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION. YES, MA'AM. I SO MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD ON MARCH THE 22ND.
TWENTY FIRST. OH 21, EXCUSE ME.
THE MOTION HAS BEEN PUT FORTH AND SECONDED, COULD I HAVE CALLED THE ROLL PLEASE? THANK YOU, MR. HALTOM.
WE NOW HAVE A2, THE RESOLUTION, THE AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE PUBLIC HEARING, TO ADJUST PRECINCT BOUNDARIES FOR THE COURTS AND BLAND PRECINCTS AND APPROVE A NEW POLLING LOCATION FOR THE COURTS PRECINCT.
YES, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD MR. STOKE. ON DECEMBER 28TH OF LAST YEAR, THE SUPREME COURT OF VIRGINIA APPROVED AND ADOPTED THE FINAL REDISTRICTING MAPS FOR THE STATE'S CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.
ALSO DELEGATE DISTRICTS AND THE STATE SENATE DISTRICTS AND THE FINAL REDISTRICTING MAPS DID SPLIT THE COURT'S PRECINCT FOR THE, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS NUMBER 204.
A SECTION, 24.2-307 OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA DOES STATE THAT EACH VOTING PRECINCT MUST BE WHOLLY CONTAINED WITHIN A SINGLE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, SENATE DISTRICT, HOUSE OF DELEGATES DISTRICT AND ELECTION DISTRICT.
SO IN ORDER TO CURE THE VOTING PRECINCT SPLIT, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THE BOARD ADJUSTS THE PRECINCT BOUNDARIES AS SHOWN ON THE MAP IN YOUR PACKET.
AND BASICALLY 300 REGISTERED VOTERS WOULD MOVE FROM THE COURTS PRECINCT TO THE BLAND PRECINCT TO MAKE THE CHANGE.
THE BOARD WOULD ALSO NEED TO AMEND COUNTY CODE SECTION 30-61 AND 30-62 TO ADJUST THE BOUNDARIES AND DESIGNATE A NEW POLLING LOCATION BECAUSE THE CURRENT POLLING LOCATION AT THE COURTHOUSE IS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE NEW DESIGNATED PRECINCT.
THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH ABUNDANT LIFE CHURCH ON POTENTIALLY BEING A POLLING LOCATION, AND THEY DO HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH THE CHURCH AND THAT'S A CHURCH LOCATED ON MIDDLE ROAD, WHICH IS WITHIN THE PRECINCT AND WOULD WORK WELL.
THE BOARD WOULD NEED A [INAUDIBLE] THE CURRENT PRECINCT SPLIT BEFORE ANY PRIMARY ELECTIONS THAT ARE UPCOMING, AND THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE IS SCHEDULED TO SEND MAIL LETTERS TO THE PUBLIC ON MARCH 21, 2022.
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BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE BOARD ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 8TH TO RECEIVE INPUT.AND THIS WOULD ALLOW MS. KNOTT ENOUGH TIME TO GET THE AD TO THE PAPER TOMORROW, AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ADVERTISE IT TWICE BEFORE THE MARCH 8TH MEETING.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM. MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION PRIOR, SO IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE DATE STATED. ON THE EIGHT.
THE MOTIONS, THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN PUT FORTH AND SECONDED.
THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE AN AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT EXISTING ELECTORAL DISTRICTS.
YES MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
AFTER REVIEWING THE 2020 CENSUS DATA, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT LATER AND ARE REVIEWING IT WITH THE GIS COORDINATOR AND LOOKING AT THE SUPREME COURT OF VIRGINIA'S FINAL REDISTRICTING MAPS.
WE COMPARED THE COUNTY'S EXISTING ELECTORAL DISTRICTS TO SEE WHETHER THERE WAS ANY DEVIATION BETWEEN THE IDEAL 60/40 SPLIT, 60 PERCENT, WHERE THERE'S THREE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND 40 PERCENT WHERE THERE'S TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THERE WAS LESS THAN A FIVE PERCENT DEVIATION BETWEEN THE IDEAL SPLIT.
THE COURTS HAVE STATED THAT IF IT'S LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT, THERE IS NO ISSUE WHERE YOU HAVE TO REDISTRICT TO GET CLOSER TO ZERO PERCENT.
IT'S NOT REQUIRED UNDER THE CURRENT CASE LAW OR THE CURRENT VIRGINIA CODE.
AFTER THE EXISTING ELECTORAL DISTRICT MAP IS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD, IT WOULD BE SENT TO THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR CERTIFICATION, THAT'S THE NEW PROCESS THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE STATE CODE LAST YEAR.
AFTER ADVERTISING OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 8TH, THE BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE ADOPTING THE EXISTING ELECTORAL DISTRICT MAP.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? [INAUDIBLE] HEARING NO QUESTIONS.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 8TH OF MARCH.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MRS. KNOTT.
THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE A4 RESOLUTION, AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE PUBLIC HEARING TO SELL COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES LOCATED IN RIVER'S EDGE SUBDIVISION ON BUXTON STREET.
YES, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE. THE COUNTY ENDS AT 1.6 ACRE PARCELS PARCEL ON RIVER'S EDGE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS LOCATED ON BUXTON STREET, IDENTIFIED AS 15B-02-01-011-A.
THE PARCELS NO LONGER NEEDED BY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE MARKET FOR SALE.
THE COUNTY ALSO OWNS TWO ADJACENT PARCELS IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP 15B0201010-0 AND 15B-02-01-011-0. THE ONE PARCEL DOES HAVE THE COUNTY SEWER PUMP STATION ON IT, SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SUBDIVIDED.
AND THE POTENTIAL BUYER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL COSTS OF HIRING A SURVEYOR TO DRAW UP THE NECESSARY PLATS AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SUBDIVIDING.
BUT THE BUYER IS INTERESTED IN ALL THREE PARCELS.
WE PREVIOUSLY A FEW MONTHS AGO WE HAD A POTENTIAL BUYER FOR THESE THREE PARCELS, BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK, SO THEY DID ASK FOR A RELEASE FROM THE CONTRACT.
SO THIS IS A NEW BUYER WHO HAS OFFERED $40000 FOR THE THREE PROPERTIES.
A CONTRACT IS CONTAINED IN YOUR AND YOUR PACKET, AND WE ARE REQUESTING A MOTION TO APPROVE AUTHORITY TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 8TH.
ONLY ONE ADVERTISEMENT IS REQUIRED FOR THE SALE OF PROPERTY.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR, I SO MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH THE 8TH TO SELL THE THREE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES LOCATED IN RIVER'S EDGE SUBDIVISION ON BUXTON STREET.
THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
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IT'S BEEN FORWARDED AND SECONDED.PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MRS. KNOTT.
WE NOW HAVE A5 RESOLUTION, THE APPROPRIATION REDUCTION FOR THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAM FUNDS WITHDRAWN GRANT AND TRANSFER FROM GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY.
YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. STOKE, MR. WHITTEN.
TAB 12 CONTAINS THE PACKET FOR THIS ITEM DURING FY16.
THE FIRE DIRECTOR OF FIRE AND EMS AT THE TIME APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED A VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAM FUNDS GRANT AND THE AMOUNT OF FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND WHICH THE BOARD DID APPROPRIATE TO THE CIP BUDGET IN OCTOBER OF 2017.
THE PROJECT WAS DELAYED FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, PRIMARILY CONCERNING THE OVERALL COST AND THE ITEMS THAT THE GRANT WOULD NOT COVER.
THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WAS SCALED BACK.
HOWEVER, DUE TO LEADERSHIP CHANGES AND TRANSITIONS WITHIN FIRE AND EMS, THE PROJECT DESIGN DID NOT MOVE FORWARD EFFECTIVELY AND DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS DID RESCIND THEIR GRANT. WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT TO REMOVE THE GRANT APPROPRIATION FROM THE CIP BUDGET AND TO MAKE A TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY TO COVER THE COSTS THAT WERE INCURRED, WHICH TOTALED SIXTY SIX THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED SIXTY SIX DOLLARS AND SEVENTY FIVE CENTS. THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THAT WOULD REMOVE THE GRANT ANTICIPATED GRANT FUNDING AND TRANSFER THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY AMOUNT OF SIXTY SIX THOUSAND.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS? NO, MA'AM. [INAUDIBLE] HEARING NO DISCUSSION, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE SEE MRS. KNOTT.
IF I MADE BEG YOUR PARDON. WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, I BELIEVE, 7:30.
YOU'RE RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
OH, THAT'S NO PROBLEM. THIS IS NOW TIME FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING, THE ORDINANCE FOR ONE TIME WAIVER OF CODE SECTION 82311A AND 82591 OF THE CODE OF THE COUNTY OF VIRGINIA TO ALLOW THE USE OF PRIVATE WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES.EVENING AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF BOARD MR. STOKE AND MR. WHITTEN. THIS MAY SOUND LIKE A REPEAT OF ME JUST BEING UP HERE A FEW MOMENTS AGO, BUT THIS IS FOR A DIFFERENT PROPERTY.
AT THE BOARD'S JANUARY 20 FIFTH MEETING, WE DID REQUEST AND THEN THIS BOARD DID AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT OF A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A WAIVER OF OUR UTILITY ORDINANCE AND AS WE WAIT FOR THIS TO COME UP.
LANDMARK INDUSTRIAL INTENDS TO DEVELOP A THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE FACILITY ON TAX PARCEL 340 0A00-028-B, WHICH IS LOCATED ALONG CHUDOBA PARKWAY.
NOW I CAN READ IT. AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME CAPACITY ISSUES WITH BOTH OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER IN THIS CORRIDOR, AND THEREFORE LANDMARK INDUSTRIAL HAS TO HAVE A RELIABLE SOURCE OF POTABLE WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT TO SECURE THE FINANCING FOR THEIR PROJECT.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE THIS PARCEL LIES, IT'S LOCATED SOUTH ALONG CHUDOBA PARKWAY AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S JUST WEST OF QUALITY WAY.
AND JUST TO BLOW UP OF THIS, TO SHOW YOU IF YOU CAN.
THERE IS A 12 INCH WATER MAIN LOCATED ALONG CHUDOBA PARKWAY, AS WELL AS THE EIGHT INCH SEWER FORCE MAIN.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE EIGHT INCH SEWER FORCE MAIN THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON RELOCATING TO BE ABLE TO GAIN MORE CAPACITY AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO GET THESE FOLKS CONNECTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
BUT THE WATER MAIN, AS WE SEE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE FINAL REPORT OF A
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HYDRAULIC ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL WATER CAPACITY AVAILABLE.IF IT IS, THOSE WHO HAVE APPROVED SITE PLANS WOULD BE ABLE TO GET CONNECTED SOONER THAN THOSE THAT DO NOT.
SO IF THERE IS SOME, THEN WE'LL ALLOW THESE FOLKS TO GET CONNECTED SOONER AND AVOID THE ADDITIONAL COST OF A WELL AND SEPTIC.
THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO HAVE THE WAIVER IS 82-311, WHICH ADDRESSES THE WATER, AND IT SAYS I'VE SAY AS EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THIS ARTICLE, IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL TO CONSTRUCT OR MAINTAIN ANY PRIVATELY OWNED WELL OR OTHER WATER SUPPLY FACILITY INTENDED OR USED FOR THE SUPPLY OF POTABLE WATER FOR DOMESTIC PURPOSES.
THE INTENTION HERE IS IF PUBLIC WATER IS AVAILABLE, THEN YOU WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BUILD PRIVATE FACILITIES FOR DOMESTIC WATER AND WASTEWATER PURPOSES OR WATER PURPOSES FOR THIS SECTION AND AGAIN FOR EIGHTY TWO DASH FIVE NINETY ONE.
AGAIN, IT IS, EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THIS ARTICLE, SHALL BE UNLAWFUL TO CONSTRUCT OR MAINTAIN ANY PRIVY VAULT, SEPTIC TANK, CESSPOOL OR OTHER FACILITY INTENDED TO USE FOR DISPOSAL OF SEWAGE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, IF THERE'S WASTEWATER FACILITIES, PUBLIC WASTEWATER FACILITIES AVAILABLE, YOU MUST CONNECT. SO THEREFORE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO WAIVER OF THESE TWO SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
AGAIN, THEY CAN INSTALL A WELL AND WITHDRAW GROUNDWATER, OR THEY COULD PURCHASE POTABLE WATER FROM ANOTHER MUNICIPAL SUPPLIER AND HAVE IT BROUGHT IN THROUGH TANKS ON SITE.
THOSE ARE THOSE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THEM AND GET THEM FOR THE WASTEWATER SIDE.
THEY IDENTIFIED THAT THEY COULD EITHER USE ON SITE TANKS AND TRANSPORT IT AND PUMP AND HAUL TO ANOTHER FACILITY, OR THEY CAN INSTALL A SEPTIC SYSTEM.
ANY SOLUTION THAT THEY PROVIDE MUST RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SO THEY SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO WITH THIS WAIVER, THEY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO GET APPROVALS FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR BOTH AND FOR ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS.
IN TALKING WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE PRIVATE ON SITE UTILITIES WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THEM.
AND UNTIL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES ARE COMPLETED AND THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT AT THAT TIME UNLESS THEY COME BACK AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL WAIVERS FROM THIS BOARD.
SO UNTIL THAT TIME, THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THIS, THESE TWO SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE AND A WAIVER WILL ALLOW THEM ONCE AGAIN TO CONTINUE DEVELOPMENT, AND THE COUNTY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE ADDITIONAL REVENUES TO THE COUNTY THROUGH TAXES BECAUSE OF THEIR FACILITIES. PUBLIC HEARING WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED FOR THE LAST MONTH, AND I'LL BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE ARE ANY. THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, MR. HALTOM, AND I THINK I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
BASED ON US WAVING THIS, THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS PROVIDING HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? OPEN UP YOUR PUBLIC HERE.
YEAH, OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? HAVE YOU HAD ANY REQUESTS FOR THIS MRS. KNOTT? NO, MADAM CHAIR.
WOULD YOU CHECK ON THE ZOOM, PLEASE, MRS. DREWRY. YES, MA'AM.
I SEE ONE ZOOM PARTICIPANT THAT HAS HIS ELECTRONIC HAND RAISED.
YOU MAY GO AHEAD, SIR. [INAUDIBLE] CLERK, CLERK TWO, EXCUSE ME, JUST ONE SECOND, WILL WE HAVE TO SWITCH TO CLERK TWO TO HEAR YOU, OK.
GO AHEAD, SIR. YES, MA'AM, MY NAME IS MITT WALKER, I'M WITH ROSLYN FARM CORPORATION, WHERE THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY OF THIS SITE, LANDMARK INDUSTRIAL, IS UNDER CONTRACT WITH US TO PURCHASE AND DEVELOP THE SITE.
I'M JUST HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE OR WAIVER AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? NO MA'AM, I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ZOOM PARTICIPANTS WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE P ONE? IF SO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND, WHICH IS IN THE REACTION SECTION AT THE LOWER END OF YOUR SCREEN.
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MR. STEELE WISHES TO SPEAK, YES, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT, BUT I AGAIN WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND, REMIND THE BOARD THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING AGAIN IS INVITING, ALLOWING INDUSTRY CREEP INTO OUR RURAL COUNTY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO IT.THIS WAS A CONCERN THAT MANY CITIZENS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST AT THE TWO MEETINGS WE HAD ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE ARE RUINING OUR COUNTY BY BRINGING IN ALL THIS INDUSTRY AND ALL THIS BUILDING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
SO WHAT DO WE DO TO DO THAT? WE JUST GO AHEAD AND GRANT A WAIVER TO THE POLICY, AND THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT.
AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE NORTH COUNTY, SO IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT US HERE IN DISPUTANTA TOO MUCH. BUT YOU GIVE AN INCH AND THEY TAKE A MILE AND THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT SOME POINT MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE BOARD HAS TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN AND SAY NO, WE HAVE ENOUGH CROWDING IN THIS COUNTY.
IT'S GOT TO STOP UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE GETS PUT IN PLACE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. STEELE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM, I DO NOT SEE ANY MORE HANDS RAISED.
THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK.
I NOW TURN THIS BACK TO THE BOARD.
MADAM CHAIR, MAY I MAKE ONE JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT.
YES, SIR. AND MY COMMENT IS JUST THE COUNTY IS PLANNING TO EXPAND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THESE AREAS. IT'S JUST WE DON'T HAVE IT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, BUT WE'VE ALREADY SET THINGS IN MOTION TO START WORKING ON THAT.
SO THIS IS JUST A TEMPORARY SOLUTION TO ALLOW THESE BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OPERATE WITHOUT BEING HAVING TO STALL THEIR GROWTH OR THEIR EXPANSION FOR 24 TO 36 MONTHS. SO THIS IS A PLANNED THING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT TO COME UP WITH THE EXTRA INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S JUST THIS WAIVER WOULD ALLOW THE BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THAT INTERIM. SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT.
AND YOU HAD CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? YES, SHE DID. I HAVE ONE COMMENT.
ECHO MR. BROWN'S COMMENTS THAT HE MADE.
WE DO HAVE PROPERTY AVAILABLE IN THOSE AREAS.
AND AS HE STATED, WE'VE ALREADY TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON EXTRA INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS COUNTY.
AND AS WE EVEN LOOK AT TRYING TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE IN THIS COUNTY AS SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, THAT ONLY ADDS MORE REVENUE TO THIS COUNTY COMING IN FROM THE INDUSTRIAL SERVICES THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED IN ORDER TO HELP US REACH THE GOALS THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ASKING FOR SO DRASTICALLY.
I NOW TURN THIS BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THE DISPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIR HEARING NO MORE DISCUSSION, I MOVED TO APPROVE.
I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU, MRS. KNOTT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
WELCOME, SIR. THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING REGARDS REZONING RZ21-3 REQUEST TO REZONE A TEN AND A HALF ACRE PORTION OUT OF A TOTAL OF 15 ACRES ON TAX MAP 13AO100026 FROM R2 LTD AND RA RESIDENTIAL TO RTH RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT, MR. GRAVES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND GOOD EVENING AND GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. STOKES, MR. WHITTEN. ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE A MAP OF THE AREA.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
IT'S, AS YOU HEARD, APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES AND A PORTION OF THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE REZONED AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THAT PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S CURRENTLY COVERED BY TREES FOR THE MOST PART, AND IT'S LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN APARTMENT, SOME APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND IT IS LESS THAN OR APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILE FROM FROM THE CITY OF HOPEWELL LIMITS.
THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S GOT TWO DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS ON THERE.
THE ORANGE ON THE EAST SIDE IS THE IS THE R2 RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND THE TAN IS RA, RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL.
AND THIS IS A VIEW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE YELLOW COLOR MEANS
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RESIDENTIAL PLAN FOR RESIDENTIAL, AND THE BROWN COLOR CORRESPONDS WITH MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE APPLICANT'S GOAL IS TO BUILD FIFTY ONE TOWNHOUSE UNITS ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS, AND TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO REZONE 10 AND A HALF ACRE PORTION OF THIS LOT TO R T H, WHICH IS THE THE NEWLY CREATED RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE ZONING DISTRICT.AND THEY AGAIN PROPOSED FIFTY ONE UNITS.
EACH ONE WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET SPACE IN THE INTERIOR.
THEY'RE MULTI FLOOR, INDIVIDUALLY OWNED PROPERTIES AND THEY WOULD IN THE COMMUNITY THERE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP.
THERE WOULD BE AMENITIES SUCH AS WALKING TRAIL, PLAYGROUND, TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT PAVILION. THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER IN EACH LOT WOULD FRONT ON A STATE MAINTAINED ROAD AND OFF STREET PARKING WOULD BE PROVIDED AND THERE WOULD BE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO MAINTAIN IT.
BRIEFLY, BLACK BACKGROUND ON THIS THAT I MENTIONED THAT IT'S A NEW ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE THE BOARD RECENTLY APPROVED AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO CREATE THAT ZONING DISTRICT ON THE 25TH OF JANUARY.
AND THIS REQUEST WOULD BE THE FIRST TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY, AND THIS APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THE NATIONAL HOMEBUILDER D.R.
HORTON AND A PLANNING ADVISORY FIRM, BALZER AND ASSOCIATES.
THIS IS A SAMPLE EXTERIOR FOR WHAT THEY ARE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD ON THIS PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO STORIES.
EACH UNIT HAS ITS OWN GARAGE ENTRANCE AND FRONT DOOR ENTRANCE FRONTING ON A ROAD.
AND THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE FOR PLAN SHOWING THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.
AND THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, A LITTLE HARD TO SEE FROM THIS FAR AWAY, BUT YOU'VE GOT THE LAYOUT THERE, WITH THE ROAD ENTERING FROM PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE ENDING AT A CUL DE SAC IN ONE PART AND THE TOWNHOUSE BUILDINGS ALONG THOSE ROADS AND WITHIN EACH TOWNHOUSE BUILDING, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE UNITS INSIDE OF EACH BUILDING AND EACH UNIT SITS ON ITS OWN LOT, WHICH CAN BE INDIVIDUALLY SOLD.
THIS IS JUST A VIEW FROM ACROSS THE STREET LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AGAIN COVERED BY TREES AT THE MOMENT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THIS IS JUST A VIEW FACING SOUTH ON PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE AND THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A PROFFER STATEMENT.
SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROFFER STATEMENT WOULD THAT ARE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL GENERALLY CONFORM TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THEY PROVIDED FOR A MINIMUM DWELLING SIZE OF TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.
THERE WILL BE A THREE AND A HALF ACRES OF COMMON AREA, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A PAVILION, WALKING TOUR AND PLAYGROUND.
AND THERE WILL BE AN ENTRANCE MONUMENT FEATURE.
AND THEY ALSO PROFFERED THE HOA.
AND WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE, AND THEY ARE ALSO PROFFERING A CASH PROFFER OF THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED FORTY THREE DOLLARS PER UNIT.
WE'LL GO INTO THE STAFF COMMENTS, WE GOT PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS.
WE JUST NOTING THAT THIS TYPE OF THIS TYPE OF HOUSING TOWNHOUSES ON THEIR OWN LOTS IS ONLY PERMITTED IN THIS R-TH ZONING DISTRICT THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING.
MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN R-TH DISTRICT.
SO JUST REVIEWING THAT, THE TYPE OF USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IF THIS LAND IS REZONING FREE ZONED IS PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOUSE TO TOWNHOUSE LOTS.
THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT THEY PROVIDED APPEARS TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THAT DISTRICT.
WE ALSO NOTED THAT ALL APPLICABLE STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE WILL BE REVIEWED DURING SUBDIVISION AND DURING SITE PLAN.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE AS STAFF, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS MAKE SURE THAT THE THEIR PLANS IN DETAIL MEET THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS IN DETAIL.
THE BUILDING SCALE APPEARS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERATION IS EXPECTED, OF COURSE, FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
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AND YOU CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE EXISTING FORBES DRIVE ENTRANCE, WHICH IS NEARBY, WHICH SERVED, WHICH IS ONE ROAD FRONTING THAT ACCESSES PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE AND SERVES 70 LOTS.AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR FIFTY ONE UNITS, AND VDOT HAS REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND PROVIDED COMMENTS WHICH WE'LL GO INTO IN JUST A MOMENT.
THE OTHER PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW COMMENTS WERE THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CALLS FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA.
SO THIS REQUEST APPEARS TO MEET THE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THERE ARE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY HERE IS NOT UNCOMMON OR NOT OUT OF PLACE IN THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE COUNTY.
THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY FOUR POINT EIGHTY SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
AND YOU CAN COMPARE THAT TO IF THEY WERE TO REQUEST TO REZONE THIS TO R TWO OR R THREE, WHICH ARE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS.
THEY COULD HAVE BETWEEN 3.24 AND 6.48 UNITS PER ACRE.
SO THIS IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT THEY COULD REQUESTED IN DIFFERENT TYPE OF ZONING DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OR DUPLEXES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO OVERALL, STAFF FINDS THIS REQUEST COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PROFFERS COMMENTS THAT STEPH HAD THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A PROFFER STATEMENT AND THE MAXIMUM PROFFER OF CASH PROFFERS PER THE COUNTY'S POLICY, IS 14,240.
STAFF REVIEWED THIS WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS POLICY AND FELT THAT IT GENERALLY CONFORMS TO THE COUNTY'S CASH PROFFERS POLICY.
SO THE CASH PROFFER POLICY CALLS FOR OR ALLOWS FOR AN APPLICANT TO OFFER A MAXIMUM OF 14,240 AND THE APPLICANT PROVIDED INFORMATION DESCRIBING WHY THEY'RE PROVIDING THE NUMBER THAT THEY ARE OR OFFERING THE NUMBER THAT THEY ARE.
THEY HAD REDUCTIONS FOR WHAT THEY PROPOSE IS LESS STUDENT GENERATION THAN FOR OTHER FOUR COMPARED TO THE COUNTY'S POLICY.
THEY PROPOSED THE REDUCTIONS FOR HOUSING BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH A NUMBER OF UNITS BY RIGHT WITHOUT ANY REZONING.
SO THERE WAS A DEDUCTION THAT THEY ARE SHOWING FOR THAT AND THE VALUE OF THE AMENITIES PROVIDED THEY DEDUCTED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY INVESTED IN THE AMENITIES FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO THAT'S THE RESULT IN CASH PROFIT THAT THEY'RE OFFERING.
SO THE OTHER STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS PRIMARILY FROM VDOT ON VDOT REVIEWED, WHETHER THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS OF THIS AND HOW THIS ACCESS ON PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE WOULD WORK, AND THEY STATED THAT A CHAPTER 527 TIA OR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS, AND THAT'S BASED ON THE PROJECTED NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT WOULD BE GENERATED BY THE NUMBER OF TOWNHOUSE BUILDINGS OR UNITS.
VDOT ALSO STATED THAT BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, NO TURN LANES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ENTER INTO THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEY JUST STATED INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, PROPOSED ROADS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WILL NEED TO BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED TO VDOT STANDARDS, AND THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE MUST BE 470 FEET FROM THE NEXT COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE OR INTERSECTION.
THESE ARE THIS IS STANDARD COMMENT THAT DETAIL IS WORKED OUT AT THE TIME OF A SITE PLANNER SUBDIVISION, AND THERE WEREN'T ANY COMMENTS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL, THERE WAS A SIX TO ONE VOTE ON THAT. THIS SAYS HERE THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS DURING THE THE HEARING, BUT THAT'S INCORRECT. THERE WAS ONE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT WAS A CONCERN REGARDING WATER SEWER CAPACITY. ESSENTIALLY, WHETHER THERE IS ENOUGH CAPACITY AND THEN A COMMENT ABOUT CURRENT OVERCROWDING IN SCHOOLS.
SO THEY WERE JUST THAT WAS THE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM ONE PERSON.
THERE WAS ANOTHER ATTENDEE WHO TRIED TO SPEAK ON ZOOM, BUT WE COULDN'T HEAR THEIR AUDIO WORKING WITH ZOOM THERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD. THAT'S WHAT OCCURRED DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
WE DID ADVERTISE THIS FOR ADVERTISE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE CODE,
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AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.SO THAT'S ALL THAT INFORMATION I HAD PLANNED TO PROVIDE, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT AND YOU CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE APPLICANTS TEAM AS WELL.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS I SEE THERE'S A CUL DE SAC AT THE END OF ONE OF THOSE STREETS.
HOW COME THERE'S NOT ONE THAT GOES TO WHERE THE PAVILION AND PLAYGROUND IS? THAT'S A DESIGN CHOICE.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A CUL DE SAC FOR THE PAVILION IN THAT AREA.
ALL RIGHT. I WAS JUST THINKING THAT WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA.
AND THE PROFFER, ISN'T THERE, SOME OTHER BUILDING GOING ON IN THE NEARBY LOCALITY OR IN OUR COUNTY THAT THE PROFFER SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE THREE WHAT IS IT THIRTY FOUR HUNDRED? WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING RECENTLY SO THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COMPARISONS ON THIS.
THIS IS NOT OUT OF BOUNDS WITH WHAT'S BEEN OFFERED BEFORE.
AND AGAIN, STAFFERS FOR THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST, STAFF WAS LOOKING AT THIS WITH THE POLICY AS IT WAS IN FRONT OF US AND THEIR REDUCTIONS THAT THEY WERE, THAT THEIR RATIONALE FOR GETTING TO THE NUMBER THAT THEY HAD, WE THOUGHT WAS REASONABLE.
WELL, WITH THE WITH WHAT IT IS, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY SAY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE THE TYPE OF THING I WOULD THINK A YOUNG FAMILY WOULD BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FOR AN OLDER FAMILY, BECAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE FLOORS.
AND I DON'T LIKE STEPS AND OTHER FOLKS PROBABLY DON'T EITHER.
SO I JUST MY COMMENT ON THAT AS FAR AS THE LOWER PROFFER.
DON'T WE HAVE TO POST THAT AREA WHERE THAT IS? I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ASK ME WHERE IT WAS.
I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, DON'T WE NORMALLY PUT A SIGN OUT THERE OR SOMETHING WHEN WE DO? YEAH, WE MAKE AN EFFORT, ON THIS ONE WE TOOK A SIGN OUT THERE AND HAD TROUBLE PUTTING IT IN THE GROUND.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING SOME, LIKE SOME DIFFERENT STYLE OF SIGNS THAT ARE EASY TO PUT IN. WE HAD SOME TROUBLE IN THIS ONE.
IT WAS. THEY ASKED ME THAT, AND SO I TOLD THEM I WOULD CHECK ON THAT.
OK, THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL I GOT.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO MA'AM. NO, MA'AM. YOU SAID THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ANDY SCHERZER.
I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH BALZER AND ASSOCIATES, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. DINO LUNSFORD AND D.R.
HORTON HOMES, WHO'S THE NATIONAL HOME BUILDER THAT IS HOPING TO DEVELOP THIS TOWNHOUSE PROJECT HERE. I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN MIDLOTHIAN IN CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES AND AND CERTAINLY A LOT OF TOWNHOUSE PROJECTS. SO I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT COME UP. BUT WHAT WITH THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW US IN THE COUNTY TO DO IS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FAMILIES THAT EXIST TODAY.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST CAME UP 40 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, MOST HOUSING EVERYWHERE AROUND RICHMOND AND SOUTH WERE WERE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
TOWNHOUSES WEREN'T THAT POPULAR.
APARTMENTS WEREN'T EVEN THAT WELL ADOPTED.
BUT NOW, AS FAMILIES HAVE CHANGED, WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE THE HOUSING THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO HERE IN A RESPONSIBLE, APPROPRIATE WAY, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF AND WE'VE TALKED TO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS PRIOR TO THIS AND AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THE RULES.
AND SO THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL PASSED LAST MONTH AND THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED UNDER THE RULES THAT YOU ALL ESTABLISHED.
NOW SOME OF THE QUESTIONS LIKE WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE A CUL-DE-SAC OR NOT AT THE END OF A ROAD? IF ON A SHORT SEGMENT A ROAD, YOU'RE NOT GENERALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT? NOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE GET INTO THE PLANNING REVIEW WITH THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN AND VDOT ADDS THAT AS A REQUIREMENT, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DEVELOP THAT.
IT COULD BE THAT WE ADD A LITTLE BIT OF PARKING AT THE END TO PROVIDE A TURNAROUND SPOT FOR SOMEBODY COMES DOWN TO UTILIZE THE PAVILION OR ACCESS TO THE TRAIL.
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BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL GET INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT.I GUESS WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, PROPOSE THE ENGINEERING AND DO ALL THE STUDIES THAT ARE PRETTY EXTENSIVE.
BEFORE YOU CAN GET APPROVED THAT IT MIGHT BE SIX OR EIGHT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO GET THOSE PLANS APPROVED BEFORE THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION.
AND THOSE ALL GO THROUGH THAT VERY FORMAL PROCESS AND THE REVIEWED BY BOTH THE STATE FEDERAL EVEN DEALS WITH THE WETLANDS, ET CETERA.
BUT IT'S GENERALLY WORKING WITH THE VDOT AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO WORK UP THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.
THE OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT PROFFERS.
NOW, TOWNHOUSES GENERALLY ARE VIEWED AS BEING FAR LESS THAN A NORMAL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE STUDIES AND THEY'VE DONE STUDIES IN THIS AREA OR, EXCUSE ME, IN THE RICHMOND PETERSBURG REGION AS TO WHERE SCHOOL KIDS COME FROM AND HOW MANY KIDS PER UNIT, ET CETERA. AND THE WAY IT'S COME OUT IS IT'S A FRACTION OR A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF WHAT A NORMAL HOUSE WOULD.
SO A LOT OF FAMILIES, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE THE MOST HOUSE AND THE MOST YARD FOR THE MONEY. AND THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH IS FAIRLY CLOSE OR ABOVE THE MEDIAN HOUSE THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE.
SO WHAT DOES GENERALLY HAPPEN IN MOST AREAS IS FAMILIES GO THERE, THEY DON'T GO TO THE TOWNHOUSES. IT'S THE SMALLER FAMILIES THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LIFESTYLE OR DIFFERENT ONES THAT END UP THERE NOW DOESN'T MEAN THERE WON'T BE ANY CHILDREN THERE, BUT THERE WILL BE FAR LESS THAN WHAT A NORMAL STANDARD.
AT LEAST THAT'S BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED TO US AND HOW WE HAVE DONE IT. AND AND I KNOW CHESTERFIELDS IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE OR SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS. THERE'S FAR LESS THAN WHAT THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE SINGLE FAMILY IS, SO IT IS COMPARABLE TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF THAT REDUCTION.
IT IS CUSTOMARY IT'S NOT JUST WHERE THIS THIS PARTICULAR SITE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY DESERVES TO BE LOWER, IT'S JUST HOW THE NUMBERS CRUNCHED OUT AND THEN THE ABILITY THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY PUT LOTS IN THERE.
WE SHOULD GET CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY COULD DO BY RIGHT.
AND THAT'S HOW WE SORT OF EVALUATED THAT AND THE AMENITIES IN ORDER TO ADD A LASTING VALUE THERE TO CREATE A REAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN COMMUNITY AND ENHANCE THAT TAX VALUE OVER TIME BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE THAT INCOME EVERY YEAR FROM THAT, EACH THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE WAS AT 15 MILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPMENT HERE.
I THINK I'VE DONE THE MATH RIGHT.
I DON'T THINK I'VE DONE IT WRONG.
I DID GO TO TECH, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT AT THIS BOARD.
BUT I THINK THE MATH STILL THERE FROM 40, WELL, 30 SOME YEARS AGO.
PARDON ME. [INAUDIBLE] LISTENING.
WELL, I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING HARD BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS DOES MERIT YOUR APPROVAL.
WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE STAFF AND WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BRING THIS TO YOU.
AND IT'S A MODEST PROJECT, BUT IT'LL BE A GREAT EXPERIMENT IN A GOOD LOCATION IN ORDER TO IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A MUCH NEEDED HOUSING IN ANY COMMUNITY.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION. CHAIRMAN YES, SIR.
HOW MANY UNITS DO YOU PLAN ON BUILDING STARTING OFF? I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WOULD BE PUTTING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ALL THE LOTS, THAT'S WHAT MR. LUNSFORD WOULD DO. AND THEN THE HOMEBUILDER, DR HORTON, I BELIEVE, HAS A PRETTY PASSIONATE VIEW OF HOW FAST THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS, THIS PROPERTY.
SO THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE I'D RATHER HAVE HIM ANSWERING DIRECTLY TO WHY HE'S COMING UP. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU BUILD 10 UNITS AND YOU AND YOU FIND OUT YOU CAN'T GET $300000 PER UNIT.
ARE YOU GOING TO LOWER YOUR QUALITY AND STANDARDS OF ANY ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT YOU MAY BUILD AND LOWER THE AMENITIES THAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO BE HIGH STANDARDS? HI, MY NAME IS BRIAN BAULKHAM WITH DR HORTON.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. NO, IT WOULDN'T BE OUR PLAN.
WE WOULD SIMPLY ADJUST TO HOW THE MARKET IS BASED ON OUR COSTS.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE KIND OF THINKING THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
WE THINK THAT IF SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT, THAT WILL ALSO AFFECT OUR SALES PRICE.
I'M SURE WE HAVE ALL HEARD, YOU KNOW, THE LATEST OF IT'S SUPPLY MANAGEMENT SHORT STAFF HERE, AND YEAH, SO WE KIND OF LOOK AT THIS LIKE KIND OF COMING INTO THE MARKET HERE AND KIND OF SHOWING YOU WHAT WE CAN DO AND PROVIDE A GOOD PRODUCT WITH AN HOA THAT WE THINK THEY'LL ALSO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING GOOD AS TIME GOES ON AS WELL. ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
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ADDRESS, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.I LIVE AT 3600 PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE REALLY NEXT DOOR TO THIS NEW PROJECT. ONE OF MY CONCERNS, AND IT'S ACTUALLY A CONCERNED I MEAN, I'VE BEEN BORN AND RAISED IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
MR. HUNTER KNOWS ME, COACHED ONE OF MY KIDS IN BASEBALL.
AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALWAYS BEEN A LIFELONG.
I MEAN, I'VE WATCHED HIS COUNTY GROW OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT NEED IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME.
IT'S BEEN THE SAME AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED, YOU KNOW, DON'T MAKE PRINCE GEORGE INTO CHESTERFIELD COUNTY. THIS IS MAKING PRINCE GEORGE, YOU KNOW, CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, AND PLUS I'M I HAVE THIS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME.
I MEAN, I MOVED THERE, BUILT ON THE VERY BACK OF IT JUST SO I CAN HAVE MY OWN PIECE OF PRIVACY AND EVERYTHING BACK THERE.
CAN WE GET 52 TOWNHOUSES RIGHT BESIDE ME? NOT INCLUDING ALL THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO ADD RIGHT NOW ON PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE ALONG WITH THE SCHOOL THAT'S BEING BUILT OVER THERE ON MIDDLE ROAD.
SO AND EVERY TIME I EITHER TURN LEFT OR RIGHT, WE'LL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING OUT OF THIS NEW TOWNHOUSE COMPLEX, WHICH IS ON A HILL BY THE WAY, ALONG WITH BIRCH ESTATE, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET.
SO YOU'VE GOT TRAFFIC COMING FROM BOTH SIDES? SORRY.[INAUDIBLE] SO AGAIN.
AND THEN ALSO, I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THESE FAMILIES, THE KIDS AND EVERYTHING COMING THROUGH MY PROPERTY THROUGH THE CREEK TO THE PROPERTY BEHIND ME.
SO IT'S JUST A CONCERN I HAVE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE BIGGEST POINT IS.
LET'S NOT TURN PRINCE GEORGE INTO CHESTERFIELD COUNTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM? MADAM CHAIR, I WILL CHECK.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, ZOOM PARTICIPANTS, WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION 4P2.
TO THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND IN THE LOWER REACTION SECTION. CALLERS CAN PRESS STAR NINE.
MR. STEELE. THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HEAR ME, BUT THERE'S NO AUDIO COMING FROM YOUR END. WE DO HEAR YOU NOW.
WE DO HEAR YOU. ALL RIGHT. THERE YOU GO.
I GOT, I'M SORRY, MS. DREWRY. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M UP OR NOT.
I'M JUST SAYING [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW.
ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THE COUNTY BOARD MEMBER, MADAM CHAIRMAN, BILL STEELE, COUNTY LINE ROAD AGAIN, AGAIN, FIRST OF ALL, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
MR. BROWN AND MR. CARMICHAEL'S COMMENTS AT THE PRIOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AS WELL HEARD AND WELL UNDERSTOOD.
DIMINISHING, DEMOLISHING, MAKING OUR RURAL COUNTY MIGHT AS WELL JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE CITY COUNTY LINE OF HOPEWELL A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH BECAUSE WE'RE JUST IMPACTING NORTHERN COUNTY AGAIN WITH BY CROWDING.
ALTHOUGH I WILL ADMIT IT THIS SIDE, THOUGH, THE HOUSING IS FOR PROBABLY WHAT WE NEED AS FAR AS THAT AGE GROUP.
THIS IS PROBABLY MORE FOR THE YOUNGER AGE GROUP AND AS WE DID, STATE AT THE TWO STRATEGIC HEARING MEETINGS. THAT WAS A CONCERN.
I THINK WHAT CONCERNS ME MORE ABOUT THIS IS ONE THE TRAFFIC THAT THIS IS GOING TO INVOLVE. YOU'RE BUILDING A SCHOOL DOWN MIDDLE ROAD.
THIS IS WHAT FIVE HUNDRED FEET NORTH OF THE MIDDLE ROAD PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE INTERSECTION THERE. I'M GLAD I MOVED OUT OF CEDAR CREEK AND MOVED THE SOUTH COUNTY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE HORRENDOUS.
I THINK WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT WHAT WHY THE COUNTY SHOULD POSTPONE THIS NOW IS THERE WAS NO PROPER POSTING OF SIGNS ON THAT PROPERTY.
THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WERE PASSERBY.
ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET COULD SEE THAT, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING AT A ZONING.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY SNEAKY WAY FOR THE COUNTY BUREAUCRAT TO COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WE COULDN'T POST SIGNS IN THE GROUND.
THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WELL POSTED SIGN RIGHT THERE, SO THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY WOULD REALIZE, HEY, GUYS, WE'RE LOOKING AT REZONING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN, YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SO I THINK WE'RE DOING THIS AT AT AN UNDERHANDED WAY.
AGAIN, IT DOESN'T AFFECT US HERE IN DISPUTANTA AREA, BUT ONCE AGAIN CREEPING IN, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT A CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, MAKE IT A HOPEWELL CITY AND LET'S GET RID OF THE RURAL PG COUNTY.
AND FOR THE GENTLEMAN FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT CHESTERFIELD COUNTY.
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YOU HAVE CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, WE WANT PG.AND AGAIN, AT THIS STRATEGIC HEARING, PEOPLE IN THE NORTH COUNTY DID SAY THEY MOVED FROM CHESTERFIELD IN HENRICO BECAUSE OF THE RURALNESS OF PG COUNTY AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
ONE MORE STEP WE'RE TAKING TO DIMINISH RPG COUNTY RURALNESS.
AGAIN, UNDERSTAND THE TAX REVENUE, WE ALL WANT LESS TAXES, WE DON'T DO LESS TAX, WE DON'T REDUCE TAX RATE BY BRINGING IN MORE.
WE DO IT BY CUTTING SPENDING IN THIS COUNTY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? MADAM CHAIR, I DO NOT SEE ANY MORE HANDS RAISED.
THANK YOU. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON [INAUDIBLE] CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT BACK TO THE BOARD. THERE'S A HAND UP.
I'M SORRY THERE IS ONE MORE HAND.
I APOLOGIZE. YOU ARE ON YOUR IPHONE, YOU CAN PRESS STAR NINE TO UNMUTE.
MARY JO TYSON 15303 [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, DISPUTANTA, VIRGINIA, MR. FLOYD, PRAYING FOR YOUR MOTHER.
SO WE CAN ALL BE PRAYING FOR YOU, SIR.
WE HAVE HAD THESE STRATEGIC MEETINGS AND WE'VE EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS AS A COUNTY.
YEAH, WE WANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF REVENUE AND BUSINESS [INAUDIBLE] WHAT YOU GOT.
WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS. AND THEN YOU SAY, OH, WELL, WE'LL FIX IT.
YOU DIDN'T NEED TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE SOURCE FOR EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS TO QUESTION YOUR CITIZENS, YOU GUYS KNOW WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WITH OUR WATER.
SO TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU GOT BEFORE YOU GO AND DIVERSE YOUR [INAUDIBLE] MS. TYSON, YOUR AUDIO IS FADING, THERE WENT ZOOM AGAIN.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM, I DO NOT SEE ANY MORE HANDS.
THANK YOU. THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK, I NOW CLOSED THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN THIS MATTER BACK OVER TO THE BOARD.
MADAM CHAIR HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION I MOVED TO APPROVE.
THIS IS ALL THE BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT.
A6. A6, OH YES, WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO THAT.
I'M SORRY. A6, RESOLUTION OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND APPROPRIATION DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL
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SERVICES. YES, MA'AM, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES HAS RECEIVED WORD THAT THEY ARE TO RECEIVE SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC ASSISTANCE AND WELFARE ADMINISTRATION FUNDS.
THOSE AMOUNTS, WHEN COMBINED, TOTAL 22,793 DOLLARS AND ARE NOT REFLECTED CURRENTLY IN YOUR ADOPTED FY22 BUDGET.
SO WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO APPROPRIATE THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, AND THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET THAT THAT OUTLINES THAT AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND MRS. JUDGE IS HERE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM, I'M GOOD.
NO, MA'AM. COULD I HAVE A A MOTION, PLEASE? SO MOVE.
SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
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A7, RESOLUTION APPROPRIATION FOR ARPA FUNDS, MRS. DREWRY. YES, MA'AM.WE MENTIONED TO YOU AT A PRIOR MEETING THAT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WAS GOING TO RECEIVE $76,552.52 FROM FEDERAL ARPA FUNDING TO ASSIST THOSE WITH DELINQUENT UTILITY ACCOUNT BALANCES.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF THOSE FUNDS AND STAFF IS WORKING TO ALLOCATE THOSE BY THE DEADLINE, WHICH IS FEBRUARY TWENTY EIGHT.
VERY QUICK TURNAROUND ON THESE PARTICULAR FUNDS.
THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET WHICH WOULD OUTLINE THE APPROPRIATION OF THOSE FUNDS INTO A SEPARATE FUND, 640.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO, MA'AM. NO, MA'AM.
HEARING NONE, I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
A8, RESOLUTION APPROPRIATION FOR SOUTH SIDE PROGRAMS FOR ADULT CONTINUING EDUCATION.
ANNUALLY, THE SOUTH SIDE PROGRAMS FOR ADULT CONTINUING ED SHORE UP THEIR BUDGET.
WE INCLUDE A TENTATIVE AMOUNT WHEN THE BOARD ADOPTS ITS BUDGET AND THEY RECEIVE THEIR FINAL GRANT FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, USUALLY IN OCTOBER, AND THEN THEY RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION OF ANY PRIOR YEAR'S UNSPENT FUNDS CLOSER TO THE JANUARY-FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME. THOSE TWO ITEMS HAVE OCCURRED AND SPACE REACHED OUT TO ASK THAT WE AMEND THE BUDGET TO REFLECT AN ADDITIONAL $41,457.23 IN FUNDING THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE FROM THE STATE. THERE IS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR, SO I'VE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT A RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
. A9, THE POSITION CONTROL IN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
MRS. HURT. GOOD EVENING MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. STOKE AND MR. WHITTEN.
STAFF IS REQUESTING FOR CONSIDERATION A CHANGE TO POSITION CONTROL CHART.
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A DECREASE TO ONE FULL TIME POSITION AS AN APPRAISER ONE OR TWO AND AN INCREASE TO FUND THE SENIOR REAL ESTATE APPRAISER.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS CHANGE IS TO RECRUIT EXPERIENCED AND APPRAISER THAT'S EXPERIENCED WITH HIGHER SKILL SET, AND THE POSITION WOULD HELP TO INCREASE THE TECHNICAL EFFICIENCY OF THE DEPARTMENT AND ASSIST WITH THE TRAINING OF THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR ONE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I SO MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THIS POSITION CONTROL CHART CHANGE [INAUDIBLE] JUST DESCRIBED. I'LL SECOND IT.
THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
NOW, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL THE BUSINESS FOR TONIGHT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? TOMORROW NIGHT, RIGHT? YEAH, WE ADJOURNED TILL TOMORROW NIGHT AT OUR WORK SESSION.
OR DO WE ADJOURN TO OUR WORK SESSION? FIVE O'CLOCK TOMORROW.
THANK YOU. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
YEAH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.