GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE IS NOW SIX P.M..
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THE BOARD.THE BOARD WAS IN CLOSED SESSION AND WE ARE NOW FINISHED WITH CLOSED SESSION.
AT THIS TIME, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CERTIFY CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE.
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MR. CHAIR.I MOVE THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIED TO THE BEST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOWLEDGE THAT ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS LAWFULLY EXEMPT FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS AS DISCUSSED AND ONLY MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE CONVENING MOTION WAS DISCUSSED.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. HUNTER AND SECOND BY MR. CARMICHAEL THAT WE WOULD CERTIFY THE CLOSED SESSION BASED ON THE ITEMS THAT WE WENT INTO CLOSED SESSION ON.
MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. CARMICHAEL? YES.
MR. HUNTER? YES, MR. WEBB? YES.
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YES.OK, BEFORE WE START OUR WORK SESSION TONIGHT, JUST A REMINDER EACH BOARD MEMBER AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR MICS ARE ON AND WE TALK CLEARLY INTO THE MIC SO THAT THOSE THAT ARE AT HOME OR THOSE THAT ARE VIEWING THIS THROUGH ZOOM WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR ALL OF OUR COMMENTS AND STUFF CLEARLY.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO INTO OUR WORK SESSION AND MR. ASHCRAFT? HGOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD, I'M FRANK HALTOM, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND UTILITIES.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY IS A MEMBER OF THE APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS THE SOUTH CENTRAL WASTEWATER AUTHORITY.
AND FROM TIME TO TIME, WE LIKE TO HAVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COME AND VISIT AND SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE MAY BE FACING, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
AND TODAY WE HAVE ROBERT WILSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HERE, TO PROVIDE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE PROJECTS AND CHALLENGES TODAY.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'LL INTRODUCE ROBERT WILSON.
I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT TO TAKE IT OFF THE TALK, THOUGH.
I'M TECHNOLOGICALLY CHALLENGED TO, SO THIS WILL BE PRETTY ENTERTAINING.
AGAIN, I'M ROBERT WILSON WITH THAT APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY AND THE SOUTH CENTRAL WASTE WATER AUTHORITY.
FIRST PART OF MY PRESENTATION, I'LL GO OVER SOME QUICK STATISTICS FOR THE APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY.
THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE DISCUSSION, WHICH IS SOUTH CENTRAL IN THE NUTRIENT PROJECT AND HOW THAT IMPACTS PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
THAT'S ALL MY LOCATION INFORMATION, I CARRY A LEASH ALL THE TIME, COMPUTER AND THE PHONE, SO IF YOU NEED TO GET ME 24/7, WE'RE AVAILABLE.
APPOMATTOX RIVER WATER AUTHORITY, WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS, WE SELL WATER WHOLESALE.
FIVE MEMBERS ARE CHESTERFIELD, DINWIDDIE, PRINCE GEORGE, CITY OF PETERSBURG AND CITY OF COLONIAL HEIGHTS.
EACH MEMBER HAS ONE PERSON ON THE BOARD AND EACH PERSON HAS ONE VOTE.
MR. HALTOM, WHO INTRODUCED ME, HE IS OUR SECRETARY AND TREASURER.
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THE PLANT'S LOCATED 21300 CHESDIN ROAD IN CHESTERFIELD COUNTY, IT'S 96 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.WE HAVE A 3100 HUNDRED ACRE LAKE.
MOST OF OUR RAINFALL IN PRINCE EDWARD WERE IN IS WHAT FILLS UP THE LAKE.
SO WE DO THE RAIN DANCE AND HOPEFULLY WE GET IT IN PRINCE EDWARD AND [INAUDIBLE].
JUST SOME QUICK STATISTICS ARE OPERATING PERMIT, WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO EIGHTY SIX MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, OUR MAXIMUM MONTHLY WITHDRAWAL IS ABOUT TWO POINT THREE BILLION GALLONS.
WE'RE UP TO THAT AND OUR MAXIMUM ANNUAL WITHDRAWAL IS ALMOST 18 BILLION GALLONS.
WHAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE ARE OUR MAXS TO DATE, OR WE'VE DONE CLOSE TO 60 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
OUR MAXIMUM MONTH IS ABOUT 1.4 AND OUR MAXIMUM YEAR HAS BEEN 12.8.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE BREAKDOWN, THIS IS THE FIVE JURISDICTIONS, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THEY PURCHASE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, THAT'S ABOUT 2.29 NINE PERCENT OR ANNUAL BUDGET IS ABOUT 10.8 MILLION.
WE, YOUR COST PER THOUSAND IS BASED ON YOUR FIVE YEAR RUNNING AVERAGE.
SO WE TAKE WHAT YOU'VE TAKEN FROM US ON A DAILY BASIS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THAT'S HOW WE FIGURE IT OUT.
LAST YEAR FOR FY 21, YOUR WHOLESALE COSTS WAS 353 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
A QUICK IDEA OF WHAT OUR UPCOMING CHALLENGES ARE, WE HAVE TO RENEW OUR VWP PERMIT, THAT'S OUR WATER PROTECTION PERMIT FOR THE LAKE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
JUST THAT REGULATORY PROCESS TO GO THROUGH IS ABOUT $1.2 MILLION IN STUDIES AND ENGINEERING EVALUATIONS.
FOR THE FUTURE, IT'S INCREASING OUR OVERALL WATER SUPPLY, INCREASING HOW MUCH WATER WE CAN PUSH OUT THROUGH OUR TRANSMISSION SYSTEM, MEETING OUR FUTURE DEMANDS.
ONCE YOU OPEN THE WATER PLAN, IT'S 24/7, 365 AND THEN THE REGULATIONS ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING.
SO IF WE HAVE TO DO ANY TREATMENT CHANGES MAINTAINING A FULL POOL, THAT'S THE, I GUESS, THE NEW EXPECTATION.
WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE WITH THE RAIN THAT THE RESERVOIR STAYED FULL YEAR ROUND AND THEN FUTURE STAFFING.
NOW, THIS IS WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH CENTRAL WASTE WATER AUTHORITY.
AGAIN, THE SAME FIVE MEMBERS, EACH MEMBER HAS ONE REPRESENTATIVE.
WE GET MR. HALTOM TO DO DOUBLE DUTY.
HE'S ALSO THE SECRETARY AND TREASURER FOR SOUTH CENTRAL.
ONE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE, EACH MEMBER HAS PHYSICAL OWNERSHIP IN THE PLANT.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU OWN A PHYSICAL CAPACITY IN THAT PLANT.
OUR BIGGEST MEMBERS OF CITY OF PETERSBURG, THERE ARE FIFTY TWO AND A HALF PERCENT.
AND YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING UP AT THE BOTTOM AT SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT, BUT THAT'S ONE POINT SEVEN MILLION GALLONS A DAY, IS WHAT YOU OWN IN THE PLANT.
AND THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT HERE IN A SECOND.
THE AMOUNT OF OWNERSHIP YOU HAVE IN THE PLANT.
THAT'S HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO PAY TOWARDS A CAPITAL PROJECT.
THE PROJECT, NOW THE BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IS A NUTRIENT PROJECT THAT'S GOT A TOTAL PRICE TAG OF ABOUT $112 MILLION.
SO IT'S SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT.
PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY'S PORTION WOULD BE ROUGHLY $8.4 BILLION.
THE SILVER LINING HERE IS WE HAD THE ASSISTANCE OF VAMWA, WHICH IS THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPAL WASTEWATER AGENCIES.
WE HAD CHRIS PALMER WITH AQUALAW, AND WE HAD PRESTON BRYANT WITH MCGUIREWOODS CONSULTING.
THEY HELP SOUTH CENTRAL GET AN $82 MILLION GRANT, AND WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE BY ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR MILLION.
WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT INKED YET, BUT THAT'S WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
SO YOUR LOCAL SHARE IS THE PROJECT COST MINUS THE GRANT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $30 MILLION TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN THEIR FIVE CUSTOMERS.
WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY BORROW THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND, BUT WE'VE GOT THREE YEARS TO BUILD THIS PROJECT.
WE HAVE A COMPLIANCE DEADLINE OF JANUARY 1ST, 2026.
WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THE DESIGN NOW.
WE'LL BID IT NEXT YEAR, THEN WE'LL HAVE ROUGHLY THREE YEARS TO CONSTRUCT IT.
WE DO HAVE A PENALTY CLAUSE IN THE GRANT AND IF WE EVER GET TO THAT POINT, YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE ME AGAIN BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'LL HAPPEN IF WE DON'T DELIVER ON TIME.
BUT WE'VE SAID EVERYTHING UP WITH SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES AND WITH SOME SAFETY MECHANISMS, SO WE WON'T BE AT THAT POINT.
NOW WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU ON THIS SLIDE IN OUR CURRENT RATES THAT WE COLLECT FROM YOU BECAUSE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OR ONE OF THE CONCERNS WOULD BE WHEN WE GO TO BAR THE MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT OR ALL OF THE MEMBERS ARE GOING TO GET STICKER SHOCK.
WHAT WE ESTIMATE TO BE THE CURRENT DEBT SERVICE IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION
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DOLLARS, T HAT'S BUILT INTO THE CURRENT RATES.SO FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, YOU'RE PAYING US ROUGHLY ABOUT 585 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
OF THAT, 187.5 IS GOING TOWARD THE NUTRIENT PROJECT.
SO WE'VE COLLECTED THIS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
BY DOING THAT, WE FRONTED THE MONEY FOR THE ENGINEERING.
AND THEN WE'RE COLLECTING THE OTHER MONEY THAT WE CAN EITHER BUY DOWN THE DEBT OR JUST PUT TOWARDS STRAIGHT CONSTRUCTION IN THE PROJECT.
WHAT WE DID FOR OUR DEBT CALCULATION, WE DID 30 MILLION AT 20 YEARS, AT THREE PERCENT.
SO THAT'S JUST THE ESTIMATE WE USED NOW.
THAT NUMBER WILL MOST LIKELY COME DOWN FROM THE CURRENT INTEREST RATES THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
AIR CHALLENGES ARE WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS PROJECT READY TO GO TO TO BID IN MARCH OF 2022.
WE'VE GOT TO SECURE THE LOCAL SHARE PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
WE ACTUALLY YESTERDAY GOT A RESPONSE FROM THE CLEAN WATER REVOLVING LOAN FUND, GIVING US DRAFT APPROVAL, BUT THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE INKED IN DECEMBER WHEN IT GOES IN FRONT OF THE STATE WATER CONTROL BOARD.
SO I WILL PROBABLY BE BACK LATER ON.
WE'RE THINKING WILL BE CLOSING ON THE LOAN SOMEWHERE IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF NEXT YEAR, AND THEY WILL ASK EACH LOCALITY TO HAVE A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT RESOLUTION TO GO WITH THAT.
THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT WE JUST DID AT ARWA WHEN WE DID THE IMPLANT PROJECT, BUT THAT WAS A TINY PROJECT AT ABOUT 12.3 MILLION.
WELL, THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE, SO IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS? GOOD, MR. CARMICHAEL? YES, SIR.
WITH YOUR CURRENT, I DID NOT BRING THOSE NUMBERS WITH ME, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THOSE FORWARD THEM TO MR. HALTOM OR I CAN SEND THEM DIRECTLY TO YOU.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE ROOM LEFT OVER AS FAR AS THE 1.7 THAT'S AVAILABLE, WE'RE PROBABLY SENDING LESS THAN ONE RIGHT NOW.
THE LET ME TAKE ONE QUICK LOOK TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN MY.
NONE OF AIR CUSTOMERS HAVE REACHED WHAT WE LOOK AT, IF YOU IF YOU'RE AT 80 PERCENT OF YOUR CAPACITY FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, THEN WE'LL START TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR UTILITY DIRECTORS.
HOW MUCH CAN WE INCREASE WITH THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE NOW? AND WASN'T A CONCERN BROUGHT UP SEVERAL YEARS BACK ABOUT TRYING TO GET IT TO SANTA CENTRAL IF WE HAD TO UPSIZE THE LINES? SO, YES, SIR, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CONSTRICTION FROM THE SOUTH POINT BUSINESS PARK.
WE DO HAVE STILL SOME FLOWS AVAILABLE COMING FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT ALL THOSE REPORTS THAT WERE GIVEN BEFORE WERE RELATED TO GETTING ADDITIONAL FLOW TO SOUTH POINT OR TREATMENT FOR SOUTH POINT BUSINESS PARK.
RIGHT NOW, THE RESTRICTION IS THE PIPELINE THAT'S UNDER ROUTE 460 AS YOU GO PAST BULL HILL AND REUS ROAD TOWARDS COURTHOUSE ROAD.
THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD SEE A MAJOR PROJECT FOR US TO TO CONVEY FLOW FROM THE PARK TO SOUTH CENTRAL.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO INCREASE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO CONVEY WHAT'S NEEDED AT THE PARK IN THE FUTURE TO GET IT TO SOUTH CENTRAL.
DO YOU HAVE A ROUGH IDEA WITH THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE? IT WAS APPROACHING OVER 50 MILLION JUST WITHIN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG.
AND AT THAT POINT, WE FIGURED IT WAS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE TO INVEST IN ANOTHER CITY.
WE RATHER SPEND THOSE FUNDS HERE AND THEREFORE WE STOP LOOKING AT ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS AT THAT POINT.
ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS IS LOOKING AT THE SAME THING, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
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THAT 1.7 IS THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE OWNERSHIP AT THE PLANT ITSELF.IF I UNDERSTAND THERE'S TREMENDOUS MORE CAPACITY AT THE PLANT, IF WE NEED IT, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO PURCHASE MORE IF WE WANTED TO GO ABOVE THAT NUMBER.
AND THEN THEREFORE THE WHOLE MIX OF CAPACITIES AND OWNERSHIP WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE AND THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN MORE ACTION NOT ONLY HERE.
IF WE TAKE SOUTH MY BUSINESS PARK TO SOUTH CENTRAL.
YES, WE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE PIPES NOT ONLY IN THE COUNTY BUT ALSO IN PETERSBURG.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CAPACITY IN THOSE PIPES TO CONVEY THAT THE FUTURE FLOW FROM THE PARK TO SOUTH POINTE BUSINESS PARK TO SOUTH CENTRAL WASTE CORRIDOR, EXCUSE ME.
BECAUSE IN TODAY'S WORLD, SOUTH POINT IS GOING TOWARDS HOPEWELL; RIGHT? OR NOT? NO, SIR, RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO PETERSBURG AND SOUTH CENTRAL.
AND WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT FROM THE PARK ITSELF, ROUGHLY ABOUT 500000 GALLONS PER DAY, GOING STRAIGHT TO SOUTH CENTRAL FROM THE PARK.
AND THE NEEDS WERE PROJECTED TO BE TWO MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AT THE PARK ALONE WITHOUT ANY OTHER FUTURE GROWTH.
AND IN ORDER TO FULFILL THAT COMMITMENT, WE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE OUR PIPE SIZE COMING FROM SOUTH POINT UNDERNEATH OR OVER BY 460? AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO DO THAT OTHER CONSIDERABLE UPGRADE THROUGHOUT PETERSBURG, WHICH WAS SOMEWHERE IN THAT DOUBLE DIGIT MILLION COST THAT YOU JUST STATED? YES, SIR.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THERE'S A GOTCHA ON EVERY CORNER.
WELL, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD POINT TO MAKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT LOOKS ON PAPER.
I THINK EVERYBODY HAS MADE A VERY INTERESTING POINT.
SO FAR, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP TO THIS.
IT'S NOT THE THE ISSUE IS NOT REALLY THE CAPACITY AT SOUTH CENTRAL BECAUSE THERE IS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
THERE COULD BE SOME TERMS OF ADDITIONAL OWNERSHIP AND GROWING.
THE ISSUE IS, GETTING IT FROM WHERE WE WANT IT TO GET TO, TO SOUTH CENTRAL? YES, SIR, THAT'S WHAT WE LOOKED AT ORIGINALLY IN THE SOUTH POINT UTILITY STUDY, WE LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THAT OPTION TO SOUTH CENTRAL WAS ONE.
THE SECOND OPTION WAS TO CONVEY FLOWS TO HOPEWELL OR BUILD, AND THE THIRD WAS TO BUILD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND WE IMMEDIATELY DISCARDED THE THE OPTION TO PETERSBURG.
BECAUSE OF THAT ANTICIPATED COST? BECAUSE OF THE LARGE INVESTMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF PETERSBURG TO INCREASE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THEN THAT'S WHAT LEFT US WITH THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WAS EITHER A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR THE HOPEWELL ROUTE? RIGHT.
ROUGHLY ABOUT 500000 GALLONS PER DAY.
AND IT GOES TO PETERSBURG, YES, SIR.
WE ALSO HAVE OTHER DISCHARGES INTO SOUTH CENTRAL'S INTO THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH TO GET TO SOUTH CENTRAL.
SO THE TOTAL COLLECTIVE IS ABOUT A MILLION A DAY, SO ABOUT 0.7 THAT WE COULD SEND WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD OF SOUTH CENTRAL AND REQUESTING SOME TYPE OF OWNERSHIP CHANGE OR INCREASE OF OUR OWNERSHIP AND AT THE PLANT.
NO, NO, WE ARE FROM THE BUSINESS PARK, WE ARE AT MAX CAPACITY NOW, I SAY MAX CAPACITY, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS PER DAY AVAILABLE NOW FROM THE BUSINESS PARK ONLY.
THERE ARE OTHER, AS I MENTIONED, THE OTHER DISCHARGE POINTS THAT GO INTO PETERSBURG THAT CAN CONVEY MORE THAT DOES HAVE CAPACITY TO CONVEY MORE TO THE SOUTH CENTRAL.
BUT FROM THE BUSINESS PARK ALONE, THAT ONE RESTRICTION NEAR ROUTE 460 CAN ONLY CONVEY ANOTHER 100000 GALLONS PER DAY.
WITHIN THE COUNTY, THAT IS THE LIMIT FOR THE BUSINESS PARK.
WE CANNOT SEND ANY MORE THROUGH THAT PIPE THAN 100000 GALLONS MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY IN.
THAT 100000, IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF THE NEW BUSINESSES COMING ONLINE
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RIGHT THERE AT BULL HILL AND 460? WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE CAPACITY ANALYSIS DONE RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL HAVE SOME REAL NUMBERS TO SHOW YOU AT A FUTURE WORK SESSION.BUT YES, RIGHT NOW WE'VE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR THE NEW 7-11, HARDEE'S AND SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE BUILDING RIGHT NOW INTO THAT NUMBER.
BUT WHAT WOULD NOT BE ACCOUNTED FOR IS IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ALONG 460 IN THAT PROPERTY BEHIND THE SCHOOL, WHICH HAS WATER AND SEWER THERE.
AND THAT WOULD GO TO SOUTH CENTRAL THROUGH PETERSBURG; CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT THE CAPACITY.
WELL, THERE'S VERY LIMITED CAPACITY FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO TIE IN TO THAT SOUTH CENTRAL CONNECTION THAT'S GOING THROUGH PETERSBURG? CORRECT.
AND THAT ALSO FAILED TO MENTION THERE'S ALSO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PETERSBURG THAT ALLOWS US TO CONVEY ONLY UP TO ONE MILLION GALLONS A DAY THROUGH THE CITY AT THAT LOCATION.
SO WE CAN ONLY GO UP TO A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DISCHARGE TO THEIR PUMP STATION AND THEN THEY CONVEYS IT FROM THERE TO THE PLANT.
SO WE ALSO WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AS WELL.
AND IF THEY HAVE ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT MAY CONFLICT WITH HARDEE'S AND THEY MAY THEREFORE NOT ALLOW US TO CONVEY ANYMORE.
SO EVEN THOUGH THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AT THE END ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL PART, WE STILL COULD RUN INTO SOME ROADBLOCKS ALONG THE WAY? CORRECT.
WE'RE ALREADY AT SOME ROADBLOCKS OR OBSTACLES.
WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR ONE POINT SEVEN.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR, AND THAT'S ALL OUR AGREEMENT ALLOWS TO FROM THE BUSINESS PARK.
YES, THROUGH PETERSBURG'S FACILITIES.
SO WE HAVE NO OTHER AVENUE OF FLOW TO SOUTH CENTRAL THAN THE 460? IS THAT CORRECT? YOU CONVEY THE SOUTH POINT BUSINESS PARK IS IS THAT YOUR QUESTION TO CONVEY FLOW FROM SOUTH BUSINESS PARK TO SOUTH CENTRAL? ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY? SO RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE SOME DEVELOPMENTS ALONG ROUTE 301, THE SOUTH CRATER ROAD AREA THAT WE DO HAVE A PUMP STATION THAT DOES PUMP ALL THE WAY THROUGH THROUGH THE CITY OF PETERSBURG AND THAT COLLECTS ALL OF WILDWOOD FARMS, CEDARWOOD.
THOSE HOMES AND DEVELOPMENTS ALONG UNION BRANCH THAT ALL GOES IN THROUGH THAT SECTION ALONG ROUTE 301.
AND THAT SAME PUMP STATION THAT COLLECTS THE SOUTH POINT BUSINESS PARK ALSO COLLECTS THE CORRIDOR FROM THE COURTHOUSE AND THE SCHOOLS ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN COURTHOUSE ROAD TO THAT SAME PUMP STATION.
AND THAT'S, THAT ONE PUMP STATION IS WHERE WE ARE LIMITED TO ONE MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
AND RIGHT NOW AT THAT LOCATION, WE ARE UNDER A MILLION, BUT WE'RE APPROACHING A MILLION.
BUT THE OTHERS ON CRATER ROAD ARE INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL? YES, SIR, THOSE ARE INCLUDED AND KNOTT IN THAT MILLION.
I'M SORRY, NOT IN WHAT? NOT IN THAT MILLION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT GOES THROUGH? THAT'S CORRECT.
IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT MILLION IN THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PETERSBURG IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT SECTION ON ROUTE 301 IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT MILLION.
AND THERE IS ANOTHER LOCATION OVER IN THE PUDDLE DOCK AREA OVER PONTOTOC ROW, WHERE WE HAVE A CONNECTION OVER BY THE LANDFILLED AREA THAT DOES HAVE A SMALL FLOW TO CAPTURES THAT THAT BUSINESS PARK THAT ALSO FLOWS IN FROM A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
AGAIN, VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION DEFINITELY SHEDS LIGHT ON SOME FUTURE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE TONIGHT, SO.
WE APPRECIATE THE ONE POINT SEVEN CAPACITY THAT.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE WE DO DEVELOPMENT, IF WE DO MORE DEVELOPMENT OVER IN PUDDLE DOCK, AND WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOME PUMP STATION UPGRADES TO BE ABLE TO CONVEY IT, BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL TO SEND MORE TO THE PLANT.
THE SAME THING WITH ROUTE 301, IF WE GROW IT OUT 301, WE WILL STILL NEED THAT CAPACITY AT THE PLANT.
AND MR. HALTOM ANY DEVELOPMENT DOWN THROUGH THE EXIT 45 AREA, WOULD THAT FLOW THROUGH THAT PUMP STATION ON 301 INTO PETERSBURG? YES, SIR.
AND ACTUALLY, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE CONNECTION AND THAT'S THAT RICHARD [INAUDIBLE] ON
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JOHNSON ROAD.WE DO HAVE A PUMP STATION BACK THERE TOO.
ALSO COMES THROUGH THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ASHCRAFT, MR. WHITTEN.
THIS EVENING, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR STORM WATER UTILITY FUND PROJECTS.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, OUR STORM WATER UTILITY FUND IS USED TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE ISSUES AND NON-MAINTAINED OUTFALL DITCHES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
AND THIS FUND IS SET UP THROUGH A SEPARATE FEE ON DEVELOPED PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, AND THE FEES ARE USED TO PROVIDE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THESE PROJECTS.
AND THE WAY THE COUNTY HAS APPROACHED THE FUNDING IS WE LEVERAGE FIVE YEAR CYCLES OF FEES AND WE BORROW A FIVE YEAR BOND AMOUNT WITH PROCEEDS.
SO OUR AVERAGE IS OUT ABOUT 2.1, 2.2 MILLION DOLLARS FOR EVERY FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
WE'VE JUST STARTED A NEW CYCLE, SO I BELIEVE WE SAW THE CARRYOVER HERE RECENTLY OF OF APPROXIMATELY 1.9 MILLION.
SO WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR OF PROJECTS AND AT ONE POINT NINE IS IS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
WE SPREAD IT OUT OVER FIVE YEARS TOTAL.
SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH WHERE WE STAND CURRENTLY WITH OUR PROJECTS AND WHAT PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED RECENTLY, AS WELL AS WHAT PROJECTS ARE SCHEDULED TO START START NEXT.
SO TODAY WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX DRAINAGE AREA COMPLAINTS.
OF THOSE, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND CLOSED.
THAT'S IN IN COOPERATION WITH VDOT.
OF THOSE 128, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER ON SOME OF THEM AND SOME OF THEM ARE UNDER VDOT, BUT THE MAJORITY HAVE BEEN DONE THROUGH THE STORM WATER UTILITY FUND.
THIRTY OF THOSE COMPLAINTS WERE IDENTIFIED AS PRIVATE PROPERTY ISSUES, AND WE WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.
TO ADDRESS ISSUES AT THEIR PROPERTIES AND OFFER RESOURCES THROUGH AGENCIES LIKE JAMES RIVER SOIL AND WATER, AND SOME AGENCIES THROUGH THE STATE.
OUR ACTIVE LIST RIGHT NOW INCLUDES 68 PROJECTS THAT WE PRIORITIZE.
AND GROUPED TOGETHER AS SIMILAR PROJECTS, AND WE BID THOSE OUT AND TRY AND KEEP GROUPS OF FOUR OR FIVE TOGETHER, AS WELL AS OUR LARGE PROJECTS.
THE STREAM RESTORATION PROJECTS, WE CONSIDER OUR LARGE PROJECTS, THEY'RE KEPT SEPARATE FROM THESE 68S.
SO FAR THIS SUMMER, WE DID THREE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR REPLACEMENTS, AS WELL AS SOME DRAINAGE EASEMENT WORK.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE WORKED IN WERE BIRCH OF THE STATE'S NEW BRANCH OF THE STATE'S GRANTCHESTER LAKES AND THE HUCKLEBERRY HILLS WILDWOOD FARM SUBDIVISION.
AND THE THREE I HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE OF OUR THREE LARGE RESTORATION PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE UPCOMING THREE RESTORATION PROJECTS.
WE HAVE ISSUED PURCHASE ORDERS FOR FIVE MORE PROJECTS.
THAT SHOULD BE OUR SCHEDULE FOR COMPLETION THIS FALL.
YES, SIR, GOOD, MR. CARMICHAEL.
YEAH, THE PROJECTS, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT ONE MORE TO DO IN THERE, BUT YES, I HAVE PHOTOS OF ONE OF THEM.
SO ON BIRCHETT DRIVE, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT OPENED UP AFTER A STORM WE DID WE HAD IDENTIFIED THIS PROJECT IN THIS LOCATION, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IT WOULD BE PART OF THE THE NEXT LARGE PROJECT IN BIRCHETT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FAILURE HAPPENED BEFORE THE LARGE PROJECT WENT TO BID, SO WE DID ADDRESS THIS ONE SEPARATELY.
HERE'S SOME OF THE REPAIR WORK BEING DONE.
THIS IS ONE THAT VDOT ALSO HAD A FAILURE AT THE ROAD, SO VDOT HAD THE WE COORDINATED WITH VDOT TO DO THE ROAD REPAIR AS WELL.
AND HERE'S THE FINISHED PROJECT AFTER THE FILL DIRT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE SEED
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AND STRAW.YOU SEE THE NEW CARBON GATHER TO THAT THAT WE HAD, WE WORKED WITH VDOT TO GET INSTALLED FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
THIS IS A MANCHESTER DRIVE, AND THIS IS A STORM WATER PIPE THAT RUNS BETWEEN TWO PROPERTIES AND IT UNFORTUNATELY RAN RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE FENCE LINE, SO WE REPLACED THE FENCE AS WELL, BUT THE BACKYARD WAS CAVING IN BACK TO A RAVINE.
AND THERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE WORK GOING ON, AS WELL AS THE FINISHED GRADING.
ON FOX DRIVE AND BRANCHESTER LAKES.
UM, THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WHERE SOME PIPES WERE SEPARATING AS THEY HEADED FROM THE ROAD BACK TO THAT DROP INLET THAT YOU SEE UNDERNEATH THE SATELLITE DISH.
AND THERE'S A PICTURE THERE OF ONE OF THE SMALL HOLES, BUT WHAT IT WAS WAS MULTIPLE HOLES AND THE PIPE WAS SEPARATING AND WATER AND DIRT GETTING INTO THE PIPE, SO WE ENDED UP HAVING TO DIG UP.
ARE ALMOST ALL OF THE PIPE AND REPLACE IT? YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH THEM WORKING, AND THEY DO DO A GOOD JOB, THEY THEY STAMP ALL THE SOIL SO IT WON'T SETTLE CALLS ANYMORE ISSUE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE DID HAVE TO GO FROM THE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO THAT DROP INLET, AS WELL AS MAKE US SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DROP INLET.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THROUGH MARK TWAIN AND HUCKLEBERRY HILLS, YOU CAN SEE THESE PHOTOS AND THIS WORK IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW.
THERE WAS A LOT OF TREES GROWING IN HERE AND A LOT OF BRUSH, AND YOU CAN SEE TRASH AND DEBRIS AND LEAVES.
SO THE FIRST SWEEP THROUGH WAS TO GET THE LARGE THINGS OUT OF IT, CUT THE TREES DOWN, REMOVE THEM, GET THE BUSHES AND SHRUBS AND THE DEBRIS OUT.
AND HERE ARE A COUPLE OF PHOTOS WHERE THEY'VE CLEARED OUT ALL THE LARGE STUFF AND THEY'LL COME BACK AND SCRAPE THE THE MATTINGS FROM THE ROOTS AND STUFF, BUT JUST TRYING TO GET THOSE DITCHES BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL CONDITION.
I THINK WOULD ANY TIME NOW, IN FACT.
OH, YEAH, YEAH, THIS IS AN ONGOING PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
WORK IS, WE ISSUED A PO TO THE CONTRACTOR FOR THAT AREA.
AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF WORK HE'LL BE DOING.
THE UPCOMING PROJECTS THAT POSE HAVE BEEN RELEASED FOR INCLUDE BRANCH`ESTER LAKES SUBDIVISION, SOME MORE OF A SIMILAR PIPE FAILURES WITH THE SINKHOLES.
WE HAVE A OUTFALL DITCH ON HINES ROAD.
WE HAVE A DRAINAGE AREA ON BAXTER RIDGE DRIVE, THAT'S UP CLOSE TO COURTHOUSE.
THERE IS A A A DRAINAGE OUTFALL DITCH AND STRAFFORD WOODS, AND WE HAVE A LARGE PIPE FAILURE IN JORDAN, ON THE JAMES L JORDAN PARKWAY, WHERE A PIPE FROM THE ROAD FROM VDOT'S ROAD DROP INLET BACK TO THE DETENTION POND HAS FAILED IN A SINKHOLE IS OPEN UP.
IT'S THAT THE ROADWAY THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE ROAD ITSELF, WHERE THE OLD GOLF COURSE WAS ? THAT'S ACTUALLY, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH VDOT.
THAT'S GOING TO FALL UNDERNEATH VDOT.
BUT WE ARE, WE HAVE SEEN ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO VDOT.
MR. HALTOM HAS MET OUT THERE WITH ANGELA AND WE'RE GETTING SOME INFORMATION FROM VDOT AND GETTING THEM TO WORK ON THAT.
THAT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
JORDAN PARKWAY THAT TO WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT ABOUT A YEAR AGO? YES, SIR.
BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES? YES, SIR.
WHERE THE RETENTION, THE POND OR WHATEVER? YES, SIR.
THIS PHOTOGRAPH HERE IS NOT ON THIS LIST, BUT IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE WORKED IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THIS OPENED UP ON THE HUNTER'S RIDGE ROAD.
AFTER OUR LAST LARGE STORM AND THIS HAPPENED DURING A STORM, THERE WAS NO INDICATION I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE BOARD AN IDEA OF HOW SEVERE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS CAN BE SOMETIMES.
THIS IS SOMEBODY'S LAWN WHO WAS FINE ONE DAY AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
IT'S IT'S THAT LAST DROP OF WATER THAT PUSHES THAT LAST PIECE OF DIRT, AND IT JUST ALL COLLAPSED AT ONE TIME.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND WE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO WORK THIS IN AS QUICKLY
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AS WE CAN.SO ONE OF OUR STREAM RESTORATION PROJECTS WE CALL THESE ARE LARGE PROJECTS.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE NEW BIRCHETT ESTATES PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.
QUEBEC/PERRIN ROAD PROJECT, WHICH IS REACH 4 AND 5 AND BIRCHETT ESTATES REACH 2.
THOSE ARE THE THE ORIGINAL ONES WE STARTED.
THESE ARE A LIST OF ALL THE LARGE PROJECTS.
THESE ARE THE STREAMS ARE REFERENCED AS AS REACHES BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENGINEERING WORLD, SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED REACHES AND THEY WILL IDENTIFY EACH DIFFERENT STREAM AS A REACH.
SO THIS IS OUR BIRCHETT ESTATES PROJECT LOCATIONS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.
WE ARE, WITH OUR LIMITED FUNDS AND IN TRYING TO STRETCH THE TWO MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS, WE TAKE A SECTION AT A TIME AND WORK ON THAT SECTION.
SO IN THE GREEN, WHERE YOU SEE THE NUMBER ONE THAT IS REACH ONE, PHASE ONE AND TWO.
WE HAVE COMPLETED FROM 156, WHICH IS ON THE LEFT TO ABOUT TO WHERE THAT NUMBER IS.
WE ARE NOW WORKING FROM THE MIDDLE OF THAT GREEN TOWARDS THE BACK, THAT'S PHASE TWO.
THE RED LINE FOR REACH 2 AND YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER TWO.
THAT IS WHERE YOU SAW THE BIRCHETT DRIVE FAILURE, WHERE THESE PIPES COME FROM BIRCHETT DRIVE BACK TO THAT STREAM, AND THEY'RE JUST OVERFLOWING AND ERODING THAT STREAM.
THAT REACH, THAT FIRST SECTION FROM ABOUT THE NUMBER TWO BACK TOWARDS [INAUDIBLE], THAT'S WHAT'S UNDER THE ENGINEERING STUDY CURRENTLY.
AND WE ISSUED THAT THAT CONTRACT EARLIER THIS YEAR.
FOUR AND FIVE OR THE PERRIN ROAD/QUEBEC AVENUE PROJECTS, WHICH ARE THE SAME SITUATION AS AROUND.
IF YOU RECALL MR. PAINTER'S HOUSE, THAT EXACT SITUATION IS HAPPENING AT BOTH ENDS OF THOSE TWO CUL-DE-SACS.
SO WE'VE COMBINED THEIR SMALLER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMBINED THEM INTO ONE.
SO THE PROJECT'S STATUS IS IN THE GRANT STATUSES FOR THESE, AS YOU RECALL, WE DO HAVE SOME GRANTS FROM DEQ TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK.
SO A NEW BIRCHETT ESTATES, PHASE ONE, THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
WE DID HAVE SOME CORRECTIVE ACTIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AS REPAIRS.
WE ALSO ARE REQUIRED TO MONITOR THAT STREAM FOR FIVE YEARS, AND THE DEQ REQUIRES A ONE YEAR MONITORING BEFORE THE GRANT RELEASE.
NEW BIRCHETT ESTATES, PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE SECOND HALF OF THAT GREEN STREAM, WE HAVE OBTAINED THE PERMIT AND THE EASEMENT PLATS ARE ABOUT 50 PERCENT COMPLETE AND BID DOCUMENTS SHOULD GO OUT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022.
CEDAR CREEK REACH 2 AND 5, BOTH OF THE MAIN WORK IS COMPLETE.
WE DID HAVE A FAIRLY SEVERE, EXTREME BLOW OUT, ALL IN ONE OF THE CREEKS FROM THE 100 YEAR STORM EVENT WE GOT.
IT JUST HAPPENED TOO CLOSE TO THE WORK AND IT HAD NOT STABILIZED COMPLETELY AND WE ARE HAVING TO DO CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ON THAT.
BUT THE VEGETATION REPLACEMENT AND STREAM MONITORING ARE UNDERWAY.
CLOSE OUTS UNDER WAY, IT'S ABOUT 87 PERCENT COMPLETE.
THE DEQ WAS ACTUALLY MET WITH TIMMONS OUT THERE RECENTLY AND DID THEIR INSPECTION AND I DID NOT GET A NEGATIVE REPORT.
THEY NOTED SOME ITEMS, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE.
THE QUEBEC/PERRIN ROAD PROJECT, THE SURVEY HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY, LOCATION, LOCATION AND DRAWINGS ARE COMPLETED, AND THE ENGINEERING AND DRAWINGS FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT ARE AT 75 PERCENT.
THE REACH 2, BIRCHETT DRIVE IS THE PRELIMINARY STREAM ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN RECENTLY COMPLETED.
I'M REVIEWING THAT NOW AND IF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE SOMETHING WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN BRING FORWARD TO YOU, WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO LOOK FOR BIDS FOR
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ENGINEERING AND DESIGN TO PUT THAT OUT, WITH CONTRACT APPROVAL.SO WHAT THAT STUDY DID WAS LOOK AT WHAT WORK WOULD BE NEEDED, PROVIDE SOME ESTIMATES AND SOME FUNDING OPTIONS, WHAT GRANTS MAY APPLY FOR THAT AND TO BREAK IT UP IN THOSE CHUNKS SO THAT WE CAN WORK IT INTO OUR FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
ON THE GRANT STATUSES, TIMMONS GROUP IS UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY TO ACT AS A GRANT MANAGER.
THEY WORK WITH DEQ AND THE VARIOUS OTHER REGULATORS THAT MAY HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT .
OUR GRANTS ARE REIMBURSABLE GRANTS, AND FUNDS ARE NOT RELEASED UNTIL AFTER ALL WORK IS COMPLETED.
IT'S INSPECTED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY DEQ AND THE PLANTINGS HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED AND STABILIZED.
AND THAT TYPICALLY TAKES ONE YEAR BEFORE DEQ WILL APPROVE YOUR PLANTINGS.
OUR CONTRACTS WITH OUR COMPANIES THAT ACTUALLY DID THE WORK INCLUDE A ONE YEAR REPLANTING ON ANYTHING THAT HAS FAILED.
SO IF THE DEQ HAS WRITTEN UP THAT THERE'S PLANTINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO THAT 100 YEAR STORM, THE CONTRACTORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT.
MR. LAKE IS OUR DEQ REPRESENTATIVE.
WE'VE HAD A FEW, BUT HE'S OUR CURRENT ONE.
HE IS ASSIGNED TO OUR PROJECT.
HE'S WORKING WITH TIMMONS TO FINALIZE ASPECTS OF ALL THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO RELEASE THE FUNDS.
I HAVE ASKED FOR SOME PARTIAL RELEASES, IF POSSIBLE.
GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE STORM DAMAGE SLOWED UP THE PROJECT AND WOULD THEY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION? OF FINAL ACCEPTANCE AGREEMENTS FROM DEQ, FINAL INSPECTIONS AND THE ENGINEER CERTIFICATIONS ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THE DEQ AND TIMMONS ARE WORKING ON AT THIS TIME.
WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FEW PICTURES OF THE STREAMS. THIS IS ACTUALLY ON THE LEFT MR. PAINTER'S PROPERTY, WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH IT BEFORE WE DID THE PROJECT.
THE OTHER TWO ARE FROM THE TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN CEDAR CREEK.
ONE ON THE BOTTOM IS REACHED 2, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TURNED INTO TO ALMOST THE PARK LIKE SETTING.
IT'S VERY COMFORTABLE TO WALK AT NOW.
THERE'S LITTLE WATERFALL ROCKS THROUGH IT, SO IT'S VERY NICE THERE.
THE TOP PHOTO IS FROM THE CREATURE'S PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE STILL HAVE SOME EROSION AND SOME PLANTINGS THAT ARE NOT MAKING IT.
SO WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE PLANTINGS FOR REACH 5 AT THE TOP.
THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON ANY OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE COMPLETED ARE ONES THAT ARE COMING UP.
DOES ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. WALTON.? I'M GOOD.
ON MY LEFT? NO, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANT TO KIND OF START AND KIND OF GIVE YOU THE WHOLE DAY OF HOW IT STARTED AND THE REASON WHY IT TOOK SO LONG AND WHERE THE LEAK OCCURRED AND WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
BUT TO START WITH ON THURSDAY MORNING, WE STARTED GETTING ALARMS AROUND TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
OF COURSE, MOST PEOPLE AREN'T AWAKE TO RECEIVE THOSE ALARMS UNLESS THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY BLARING.
BUT THE FIRST ALARM ESSENTIALLY IS JUST WHEN IT DROPS BELOW WHAT WE HOPE TO HAVE AS OUR LOW LEVELS AND OUR TANKS.
AND USUALLY, THAT'S NOT NOT TOO MUCH OF AN ALARM TO REALLY MOVE US, BECAUSE THAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS A LOT AT SOUTH POINT, IF THEY HAVE A BIG DRAW.
SO WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE ON CALLS, ALWAYS MONITORING OUR DATA SYSTEM TO WATCH THOSE TOWERS.
SO ONCE THOSE ALARMS GO OFF, THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE ALERT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND ABOUT TWO HOURS LATER, OUR SECOND TANK DROPPED DOWN BELOW A LEVEL, AND AT THAT
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POINT IS WHEN WE STARTED CALLING IN EVERYBODY, AND THAT WAS AROUND 4:00 A.M.SO WE, AT THAT TIME, WE HAD AN ALL HANDS ON DECK.
EVERYBODY CAME IN AND STARTED PREPARING TO LOOK FOR THIS LEAK.
OF COURSE, IT'S STILL DARK UP UNTIL ABOUT 6:30 IN THE MORNING.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY PUT OUR EYES ON ANYTHING.
IT WAS AROUND 5:30 THAT SOUTH POINT TANK WAS AT ZERO PERCENT ESSENTIALLY EMPTY AND THE COURTHOUSE TANK WAS AT 48 PERCENT.
YET THE MIDDLE ROAD TANK WAS AT 78 PERCENT.
SO KNOWING WHERE THE TANK IS, DRAIN FIRST KIND OF GAVE US AN IDEA OF WHERE TO LOOK FIRST.
SO WE OBVIOUSLY WE KNEW THAT THE ISSUE WAS IN SOUTH POINT BUSINESS PARK.
SO WE HAD FOLKS DRIVING ALL THROUGHOUT THE PARK ALL ALONG ROUT 460 TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THIS LEAK IS.
WE STARTED PUTTING GAUGES, EXCUSE ME, START ISOLATING VALVES FIRST TO TRY TO SEE IF THE PRESSURES WOULD COME BACK UP.
AND IF WE STOP THE FLOW OF WATER GOING TO A CERTAIN LOCATION, THE PRESSURE SHOULD RETURN.
SO WE GAUGES PUT ON OUR HYDRANTS TO SEE IF THAT HELPED.
AND ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE IN THE RIGHT SPOTS, WE REALIZED THAT THE LEAK WAS OCCURRING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN WELLS STATION AND HARDWARE DRIVE HEADING TOWARDS AMAZON.
SO WE HAD ISOLATED JUST THOSE LEGS, WHICH ALL OF HARDWARE DRIVE WAS ISOLATED AND A PORTION OF WELLS STATION ROAD WAS ISOLATED, WHICH IMPACTED ALL THOSE BUSINESSES FROM ROLLS-ROYCE.
AMAZON, WIND SUPPLY, PURDUE, PENSKE AND THE OTHERS RIGHT THERE ON HARDWARE DRIVE.
WE INITIALLY THOUGHT THE LEAK WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE SWAMP BECAUSE THERE IS A LOOPED LINE THAT GOES FROM BEHIND AMAZON ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE STARTED ISOLATING THE VALVES BACK THERE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE, IF IT WAS BACK THERE, THAT WE CAN AT LEAST DETERMINE IF IT WAS SO.
WE WERE ABLE TO ISOLATE IT ON THE SCHOOL SIDE, AND WE SAW THE PRESSURE RISE BACK UP VERY QUICKLY ON THE SCHOOL'S, OVER BY WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOL IS.
WE HAD ISSUES TRYING TO ISOLATE IT FROM THE AMAZON SIDE BECAUSE WE HAD TO, ESSENTIALLY, THE VALVES WERE BURIED.
SO WE HAD TO REPAIR THE VALVES, GET THEM UNCOVERED AND THEN ISOLATE THEM.
AND WHEN WE DID, WE STILL HAD NO ISSUES ON ON THE SWAMP SIDE, BUT IT TOOK US QUITE SOME TIME TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT.
WE CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BUT BY TWO P.M.
WE FIGURED, OK, WE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS AT AND EVERYBODY HAD THEIR PRESSURE ESSENTIALLY RETURNED TO CLOSE TO NORMAL AS NORMAL AS YOU CAN BE WITH YOUR TANK STILL AT ZERO PERCENT.
BUT THEY ESSENTIALLY HAD AT LEAST 30 TO 40 PSI AND FOLKS WERE ABLE TO START USING WATER AGAIN AROUND 2:00 P.M.
EXCEPT FOR THOSE FOLKS ON HARDWARE AND WELLS STATION, WHICH ONLY PERSON IMPACT ON WELLS STATION WAS ROLLS-ROYCE.
SO OVERNIGHT THEY WERE LEFT WITHOUT WATER.
WE DID TALK WITH THEM, AND I KNOW MR. STOKES ALSO WAS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY KNEW THAT WE WERE ON TOP OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS ISSUE WAS.
THE NEXT MORNING, WHICH HAS BEEN FRIDAY MORNING.
WE INSTALLED ANOTHER VALVE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WELLS STATION AND HARDWARE TO TRY TO FURTHER ISOLATE THE ISSUE SO WE CAN DETERMINE EVEN FURTHER WHERE IS THIS PROBLEM? AFTER INSTALLING THAT VALVE, WE LEARNED THAT IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TOWARDS AMAZON FROM THE INTERSECTION OF WELLS STATION AND HARDWARE BACK TOWARDS WALLY WAY.
THAT WAS FREE AND CLEAR NOW, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE PRESSURES UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE'RE DOWN TO EITHER WIND SUPPLY OR AMAZON.
THERE'S ONLY TWO FACILITIES AND PENSKE, EXCUSE ME, THOSE ARE THE THREE FACILITIES FROM THAT INTERSECTION GOING TOWARDS AMAZON THAT WERE BEING IMPACTED.
AND INITIALLY, WE HAD ALREADY WALKED THOSE PROPERTIES THE DAY BEFORE AND DID NOT SEE ANYTHING.
WE WALKED THEM AGAIN AND WE SAID WE FOUND THE BIG HOLE OF WATER, A POOL OF WATER SITTING ON THE WIND SUPPLY'S FIRE LINE THAT WRAPPED AROUND THEIR BUILDING.
THE, MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS OCCURRED.
YOU KNOW, THIS BEING ON THE FIRE SUPPLY LINE, IT'S NOT WE WERE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY ISOLATE THEIR LINE AND GET EVERYBODY BACK UP THE PRESSURE AND THAT OCCURRED EARLY AFTERNOON ON FRIDAY.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WIND SUPPLY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THOSE REPAIRS THEMSELVES.
BUT THEIR LINE WAS, ESSENTIALLY, THE WAY THE LINE HAD BUSTED AFTER WE SAW HOW THEY HAD THE WATER MAIN CAME OUT OF THE GROUND.
THE LINE HAD HAD CRACKED ALL THE WAY DOWN ONE SECTION OF PIPE AT THE VERY BOTTOM, SO IT WAS ESSENTIALLY SPRAYING OUT THE BOTTOM OF THE PIPE SO IT WOULDN'T COME TO THE TOP IMMEDIATELY.
IT WAS ESSENTIALLY CREATING A HOLE BELOW ITSELF.
AND THERE IS A RAVINE RIGHT NEXT TO IT WHERE THE WATER, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY GOING
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THROUGH THE SLOPE.AT LEAST THIS IS WHAT OUR OUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS, WHY WE COULDN'T SEE IT.
SO IT WAS GOING STRAIGHT INTO THIS RAVINE WHERE WE COULDN'T SEE IT UNTIL EVENTUALLY THE GROUND ABOVE IT COLLAPSED DOWN INTO THE HOLE.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THE REST OF WHERE THAT LEAK OCCURRED.
BUT AT THIS POINT, AT LEAST, THAT FRIDAY AFTERNOON, WE WERE ABLE TO ISOLATE EVERYBODY, ISOLATE THE LEAK ON TO WIND SUPPLY, AND THEY ARE CORRECTING THAT.
IN FACT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT REPAIR IS DONE.
SO THEY JUST HAVE TO GET THAT CLEARED THROUGH THEIR FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM CONTRACTOR AND MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET THEIR SYSTEM CHARGED AGAIN.
BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS NOW WITH WATER.
WE STARTED FLUSHING ON FRIDAY MORNING AT SEVEN A.M.
TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER WAS SAFE TO DRINK AGAIN AFTER WE ALREADY ISSUED A BOILED WATER NOTICE.
AND TYPICALLY, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET THE BOILED WATER NOTICE LIFTED IS TO TAKE SAMPLES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WATER IS SAFE.
IN THE PAST, YOU HAD TO TAKE SAMPLES 24 HOURS APART AND BOTH SAMPLES AT THE PASS.
RECENTLY, WE LEARNED FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY CHANGED THE REGULATIONS TO ALLOW US TO TAKE ONE SAMPLE AFTER DOING SOME INITIAL FLUSHING AND ALLOW IT TO CONTINUE TO FLUSH FOR 30 MINUTES LATER AND TAKE ANOTHER SECOND SAMPLE.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID BY TAKING THE GUIDANCE FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND INITIALLY WE GOT THE RESULTS BACK AND WE THOUGHT THEY HAD FAILED.
BUT APPARENTLY WE MISREAD THE RESULTS AND THEY CAME BACK THAT ALL THE SAMPLES ACTUALLY PASSED.
WE DIDN'T FIND THAT OUT UNTIL ABOUT THE LATE AFTERNOON ON ON SATURDAY.
SO WE ON SATURDAY MORNING, WE STARTED INTRODUCING SOME CHLORINE INTO THE SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE IT WAS DISINFECTED BECAUSE WE INITIALLY THOUGHT THE SAMPLES HAVE FAILED.
SO IF YOU HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CHLORINE SMELL, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE REASON WHY BECAUSE WE DID PUT SOME MORE CHLORINE TO MAKE SURE THE CHLORINE RESIDUALS IN THE RIGHT LOCATIONS WERE COMING UP TO MAKE SURE IF THERE WAS ANY BACTERIA, WE WERE TAKING CARE OF IT.
BUT WE FOUND OUT THEY PASSED IN AROUND 4:30 ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON, WE LIFTED THE BOILED WATER NOTICE FOR THE ENTIRE AREA.
IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
WHETHER THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, THAT THE BOIL WATER ADVISORY IS NOW LIFTED AND EVERYBODY DOES HAVE SAFE DRINKING WATER AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HALTOM WE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST STATED, SO WE'VE GOT HIGHER LOW LEVEL LIMITS ON EACH TANK, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ALERT SYSTEM OTHER THAN SOMEBODY HAVING TO VISUALLY SEE IT ON A COMPUTER SOMEWHERE? NO, SIR, WE DO GET ALERTS.
EVERYBODY, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT CERTAIN FOLKS THAT ARE ON CALL AND MYSELF AND OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER GET TEXT EVERY TIME THEIR ALARM GOES OFF.
WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF IT TOOK US TWO HOURS TO RESPOND TO THOSE IS WHY ISN'T IT SENDING SOMETHING TO EVERY FIVE MINUTES UNTIL SOMEBODY HITS SOMETHING TO SAY IT'S ACKNOWLEDGED.
BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, I DIDN'T SEE THAT OCCUR.
THERE WAS NO REPEAT OF THE ALARM TO SHOW THAT IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED AND SURE THAT SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.
THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR OF FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT REPEATS.
THE SECOND QUESTION I GOT FOR YOU; ANY OF THESE TANKS HAVE A FLOW SENSOR ON? NOW THEY ALL HAVE A TRANSDUCER THAT RECOGNIZES PRESSURE DROPS.
SO, YES, ANYTIME THERE'S A PRESSURE DROP, WE WILL NOTICE THAT.
AND THAT'S HOW WE READ THE LEVELS OF THE TANK IS BASED ON THE PRESSURE.
BUT JUST AT THE TANK, NOWHERE ELSE WHERE IT MAY SPLIT OFF TO THE SURFACE, LIKE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK OR THE AMAZON OR SOMETHING? WHAT, I'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
IF YOU HAD A FLOAT TRANSDUCER OR FLOW SENSOR OR WHATEVER, IT WOULD HELP ELIMINATE TROUBLESHOOTING BECAUSE YOU COULD KNOW WHAT IF YOUR FLOW NORMALLY RAN 350000 GALLONS A DAY AND NOW YOU'RE UP TO 425? YOU KNOW YOU GOT A PROBLEM? ABSOLUTELY.
SO THE HIGH LOAD LIMIT ON IT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND YOU COULD JUST STRATEGICALLY LOCATE THOSE THROUGHOUT THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
BUT TYPICALLY A LEAK OF THIS SIZE, YOU'D WANT TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE TO THE WATER METERS.
AND IN THIS, RIGHT NOW, WE'VE NEVER REQUIRED IN THE PAST TO HAVE THESE FIRE SYSTEMS TO HAVE A METER ON THEM.
AND WHEN WE GO TO DO A WATER WATER LEAK CHECK, FIRST THING YOU LOOK FOR IS THE WATER METER.
IS IT SPINNING? THAT WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST THING TO DO IN THAT WAY.
IF THERE IS A DROP IN PRESSURE, WE CAN GO AND JUST CHECK METERS AND THEN WE'LL FIND IT, IF IT IS ON THE ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE.
IT'S NOT ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE, AND IT IS ON THE ON THE PUBLIC SIDE THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY, YOUR SUGGESTION WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL.
IT WOULD GIVE YOU A DEFINITE AREA THAT, HEY, I NEED TO GO CHECK HERE VERSUS
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ALL THE EFFORT YOU HAD TO PUT FORTH.HINDSIGHT'S ALWAYS 20/20, BUT IF WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOING FORWARD, NO WAY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE ROOT CAUSE.
YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW MANY MAN HOURS AND MONEY DOLLARS WE SPENT TO IDENTIFY IT.
IT'S WHAT DO YOU DO TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? ABSOLUTELY.
WE ARE WORKING ON AN AFTER ACTION REPORT AND LESSONS LEARNED, AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH MR. ASHCRAFT AS WELL, WHO'S SCHEDULED MEETING TO KIND OF GO OVER THROUGH HOW TO ADDRESS THIS IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ON MY LEFT? ALL RIGHT.
I'M ASSUMING THE TANKS THAT WERE LOW OR BACK WHERE THEY NEED TO BE NOW? YES, SIR, ALL TANKS ARE BACK TO NORMAL.
IT TAKES ABOUT A DAY TO FILL THOSE ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP, AND WE TRY TO OPERATE THEM ANYWHERE BETWEEN 95 AND 60 PERCENT.
NOW, SOME TURN OVER THAT TANK FOR THE CHLORINE RESIDUAL.
NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENDEAVORS.
FROM HERE, JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES, YOU'RE SEEING SOME DIFFERENT PICTURES ON YOUR SCREENS.
I WANTED MR. STOKES TO EXPLAIN.
NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S NOT QUITE IN EFFECT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'LL GIVE IT A LITTLE MIC].
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ASHCRAFT, MR. WHITTEN, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW ON ZOOM IS ACTUALLY CAMERA TWO OFF OF SWAGIT.
SWAGIT IS THE NEW VIDEO RECORDING SYSTEM THAT WE'RE USING WITHIN THE COUNTY.
TONIGHT IS TESTING NIGHT AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE PROGRAMMER, THE THE OPERATOR AND I BELIEVE THE HOUSTON, TEXAS, AREA WHO IS TESTING ALL THE CAMERAS, CHECKING HOW THINGS ARE LOOKING.
SCROLLING AROUND RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO FIND WHO'S SPEAKING, THERE'LL BE TITLE BARS COMING UP UNDER PEOPLE'S NAMES.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A TREE IN A BOAT THERE NOW WILL MAKE THAT THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY SEAL, SO THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE NUANCES WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.
WE ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING A BROADCAST TEST THROUGH OUR WEBSITE AND TRYING TO HAMMER DOWN SOME DETAILS ON THE WEBSITE AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK SO THAT WHEN WE BRING THIS OUT FOR FULL FORCE ON OCTOBER 12TH, WE'LL HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT FOR THE CITIZENS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
BOTH ZOOM FOR THOSE WISHING TO STILL REMOTELY EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS AND WATCH AND THEN SWAGIT, WHICH WILL BE THE PROFESSIONAL VIDEO AND ALSO THE ARCHIVE SYSTEM, WHICH WILL BE LINKED TO THE AGENDA THAT MS. KNOTT PREPARES ALONG WITH THE CHAIRMAN, MR. ASHCRAFT, SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO SAY THE VDOT REPORT AND YOU'LL CLICK ON THE REPORT AND THE AGENDA, AND YOU'LL BE INSTANTANEOUSLY TAKEN TO THAT PART IN THE VIDEO WHERE THE VDOT REPRESENTATIVE SPEAKS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF THIS SWAGIT SYSTEM, THERE ARE FOUR CAMERAS IN THE ROOM ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR.
AND THEY ARE LIVE AS WE SPEAK, TESTING OUT.
SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR WORK SESSION.
YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO REGROUP BEFORE WE START, OK? BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S NOW 6:57, I GUESS WE'LL JUST RECESS FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES AND WE'LL START PROMPTLY BACK AT 7:00 P.M.
THE BOARD STARTED THIS EVENING AT FIVE P.M.
THE WORK SESSION JUST ENDED A COUPLE OF MINUTES BEFORE 7:00 AND IS NOW SEVEN P.M.
AND WE'RE NOW READY TO START WITH THE BUSINESS PART OF OUR MEETING FOR TONIGHT.
FIRST ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE AN INVOCATION.
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AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR VICE CHAIR, MRS. WAYMACK, IF SHE WOULD GIVE THE BOARD'S INVOCATION AT THIS TIME.OH, DEAR, HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN TO PRINCE GEORGE LORD.
WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR HELP WITH OUR MANY EARTHLY PROBLEMS. PLACE YOUR MIGHTY HAND ON OUR WORLD AND SOOTHE OUR ANXIETIES AND FEARS FOR MANY ARE FEARFUL AND ANXIOUS.
LORD, WE ASK YOUR COMFORT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES DURING THIS COVID INCREASE AND SURGE.
HELP OUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS AS THEY STRUGGLE WITH THIS VIRUS SURGE.
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THANK YOU FOR OUR LEADERS AND KEEP YOUR MIGHTY HAND ON THEM IN YOUR HOLY NAME.WOULD YOU GIVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THANK YOU, MR. CARMICHAEL.
MRS. WAYMACK THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VERY SINCERE WORDS, INVOCATION.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD, YOU'LL BE GIVEN FOUR MINUTES.YOU CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE ASK IS THAT IF YOU CAN SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, EXCEPT FOR ANYTHING THAT IS SET ON OUR AGENDA FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THERE WILL BE TIME ALLOTTED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR INPUT.
MRS. KNOTT, IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS PRE-REGISTERED WITH YOU FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, OK.
AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE PHYSICALLY IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AT THIS TIME, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WILLIAM STEELE COUNTY LINE ROAD, VIRGINIA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I LIKE JUST TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE ATTENTION.
MAYBE WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
IT'S THE ACTION THAT THIS COUNTY TAKES AS FAR AS FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
I CALLED IN, AS YOU ALL GENTLEMEN AND LADIES HAVE TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE BOARD IF YOU CAN.
MR. ASHCRAFT HAS INVITED ME TO THE BOARD, SO FORTH AND SO ON, AND THAT'S FINE.
I CALLED MR. STOKE'S OFFICE THE OTHER DAY.
I WANTED SOME GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE STEVEN KEMP EXIT.
THERE WERE JUST YES OR NO QUESTIONS.
MY FIRST RESPONSE FROM THE SECRETARY THEN ANSWERED WAS, YOU HAVE TO FILE AN FOIA.
NO, IS NOT WHAT AN FOIA STANDS FOR, OR WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO DO ONE.
IT WAS BASICALLY YES OR NO QUESTIONS.
I WASN'T ASKING FOR DOCUMENTS, BUT SHE INSISTED SHE COULD NOT TALK TO ME UNLESS I FILED A COMPLAINT OR FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
SO WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT'S REALLY A TURNOFF FOR A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT MAY BE WANTING TO BE INTERESTED IN OPERATIONS IN THE COUNTY.
I'M A TAXPAYER, OTHER TAXPAYER.
WHEN YOU CALL IN FOR BASIC INFORMATION ON HOW MY TAXES ARE BEING SPENT AND YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY TOLD, OH, I WON'T TALK TO YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO FILE AN FOIA.
I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT HERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE TRANSPARENCY WE WANT.
SO I'M JUST PASSING THIS ON AND ASKING IT.
MAYBE DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND NOT SCARE THE PUBLIC OFF AND I BELIEVE THIS WOULD, IF I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THIS, IT WOULD SCARE ME OFF.
FOIA IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO FILE, BUT IT IS TIME CONSUMING AND AS A TAXPAYER.
YOUR CONSTITUENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT JUST TO GET SOME YES OR NO ANSWERS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU THIS EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. STEELE.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU AND YOUR OFFICE WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH MR. STEELE ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, PLEASE, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT HERE THAT WANTS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AT THIS TIME THAT SAYS A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO STATE YOUR TOPIC.
SO IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
I DO NOT SEE ANYONE ELSE MOVING TOWARDS THE PODIUM HERE.
MR. STOKE, WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK ON ZOOM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS? WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER NOW TO BE RECOGNIZED.
PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NO ONE ON ZOOM WISHING TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. STOKE.
SEEING THAT THERE'S NO ONE ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM TO SPEAK AND NO ONE ON ZOOM.
I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND WHEN WE AND WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO
[ADOPTION OF AGENDA]
THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE AGENDA.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE AT THIS TIME? SO MOVED.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECOND BY MRS. WAYMACK, THAT WE WOULD ADOPT THE AGENDA AS STATED HERE IN OUR BOOK.
YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
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MR. HUNTER.? YES.[ORDER OF CONSENSUS]
YES.NEXT, WE HAVE IS THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.
BOARD MEMBERS, IS THIS ALSO IN YOUR BOOK, IT'S ITEM C1-C4.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO REMOVE FROM THIS, PLEASE STATE AT THIS TIME OTHERWISE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, HEARING NO ONE SPEAK, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT WE ADOPT THE CONSENSUS AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. CARMICHAEL, AND IT'S BEEN SECOND BY MR. HUNTER, THAT THE BOARD WOULD ADOPT THE ORDER OF CONSENSUS, AS SO STATED IN OUR BOOK.
MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. WEBB? YES.
MR. CARMICHAEL? MR. HUNTER? YES.
OK, THIS IS A GREAT PART OF TONIGHT SECTION HERE FOR US.
AS PART OF THE CONSENSUS, WE ACTUALLY PASSED THE ACCOMMODATION FOR AIDEN BRYANT, WHO WAS ON AMERICA'S GOT TALENT.
HE WAS THE SEASON 16 SECOND PLACE WINNER.
WE WILL BE RECOGNIZING HIM NOW AT THIS TIME.
I THINK FIRST THOUGH, I BELIEVE WE HAD A VIDEO OR SOMETHING WE WANTED TO SHOW? MR. CARMICHAEL? OUR DEMONSTRATION, IF YOU WANT US TO LAWNMOWER IN SOME POLLS AND GET ON THAT LAWNMOWER, AND WE HAVE AT IT.
AIDEN BRYANT ! LOOK AT THIS! I MEAN, YOU ARE STANDING ON THE DESK.
AND I DID THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK A STANDING OVATION WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR.
AND BELIEVABLY TALENTED 16 YEARS OLD, EVERY WEEK YOU RISK YOUR LIFE, YOUR
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CREATIVITY IS OFF THE CHART.THIS WAS HONESTLY ONE OF THE BEST LIVE PERFORMANCES.
HEIDI? I'M JUST SO PROUD OF YOU AND WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THIS DREAM AND YOU WENT FOR IT AND YOU TRAINED SO HARD AND HERE YOU ARE AT THE FINALE.
SIMON IS STANDING ON THE DESK.
SOPHIA? WELL, I CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS YEAR BECAUSE FROM STEALING YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S SHEETS THIS, TO BECOMING THE SENSATION THAT THE THAT THE WORLD I MEAN, I THINK AMERICA IS LOVING YOU.
HOWIE? I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING MY COHORTS ARE SAYING, I PERSONALLY LIKED YOUR LAST ROUTINE BETTER THAN THIS ONE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO HOWARD.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE MRS. WAYMACK TO COME DOWN TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION BOARD MEMBERS.
I KNOW WE NORMALLY STAY UP HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK TONIGHT THAT WE WOULD ALSO FORM IN THE U-SHAPE AND FOR AIDEN AND HIS FAMILY TO PLEASE COME UP AT THIS TIME.
NO HANGING FROM THE CEILING, BRO.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW THIS YOUNG MAN.
AND WE'RE SO PROUD OF IT AND ALL THE HONOR HE HAS BROUGHT.
SO AIDEN AMERICA'S GOT TALENT SEASON 16 SECOND PLACE RUNNER.
AND BRIAN IS A JUNIOR PRINCE GEORGE HIGH SCHOOL.
HE'S INCREDIBLY TALENTED, TAUGHT THIS.
AND WHEREAS A MAJORITY AFTER WATCHING.
HE WAS THEN INSPIRED TO GO INTO HIS GRANDMA CLOSET AND REVERENTIALLY AND HANG IN THE TREE SO HE COULD PRACTICE THE SILK.
AND WHEREAS THIS IS WHEN YOUR FATHER DIED IN AN ALMOST 20 18.
VIDEOS TO LEARN NEW TRICKS AND NEW APPARATUSES.
AND WHEREAS IN DECEMBER OF TWENTY TWENTY EIGHTEEN DECIDED TO VIRTUALLY AUDITION FOR.
AND WHEREAS MEN MADE IT TO THE LIVE SHOWS AND PERFORMED THREE TIMES AND ROTATING.
PARITY WITH EACH PERFORMANCE IS MORE.
WITH EACH PERFORMANCE BEING MORE DIFFICULT AND THE CHANCES OF WONDERFUL.
AND THE SECOND PLACE WINNER OF AMERICA'S GOT TALENT.
AND WHEREAS ALAN HAS HAD MANY BUSINESSES IN THE PAST.
HIS LATEST VENTURE WAS SEVEN INFINITY LIGHTS.
NOW, HIS NEXT VENTURE WILL EVENTUALLY BE IN LAS VEGAS IN THE AMERICA'S GOT.
IS NOW A NATIONAL CELEBRITY MAKING TELEVISION APPEARANCES? INCLUDING THE ELLEN SHOW.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED.
HEREBY COMMANDS AND CONGRATULATES AGENT BRYAN FOR WINNING SECOND PLACE IN
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AMERICA'S GOT TALENT.AND FROM REPRESENTING PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY WITH SUCH GRACE AND.
ALL THIS BOARD WISHES AIDY BRYANT MUCH SUCCESS IN HIS FUTURE.
ENDEAVORS, AS WE KNOW, HE WILL GO ON TO DO GREAT THINGS AND MAKE OUR COUNTY PROUD.
AND THIS IS ON THE PHONE AND FROM THE CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN PERSON, THE ASHCRAFT ERARD.
THE LOVE AND SUPPORT FOR PRINCE GEORGE AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU GET THE PERSON WHO HAS SHOWN ALL OF THE MOST TALENT [INAUDIBLE]? AND WE WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL TONIGHT.
BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY GIVING YOU THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY FLAG.
YOU CAN CARRY AROUND WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE US EXTREMELY PROUD.
AND WE WANT YOU TO REPRESENT PRINCE GEORGE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, [INAUDIBLE] ALL THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS HERE IN THE COUNTY.
ALWAYS BE LOOKING OUT FOR YOU.
PRAYING FOR YOU, WISHING THE BEST FOR YOU.
THEY THEY STOLE EUROSCEPTICS AGAINST CERTAIN.
I FIGURED IT WAS GOING TO CUT UP.
THAT WOULD BE HARD TO WIPE CLEAN SHEETS WHEN HE GOT THROUGH WITH.
WE'VE GOT A PICTURE WE NEED TO TAKE.
AND WE'VE GOT A PICTURE WE GOT TO TAKE CARE FOR ONE.
NOW WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT WAYS IN THERE, JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AWESOME PRESENTATION THAT AWESOME OR WHAT? AWESOME, AWESOME.
YEAH, WE COULD JUST END THE BOARD MEETING ON AN UP NOTE AND JUST GO AT IT LIKE THAT.
HEY, NEXT, WE HAVE FINISHED PRESENTATIONS.
[SUPERVISORS’ COMMENTS]
TWENTY TWO SUPERVISOR COMMENTS.LET'S START WITH MRS. WAYMACK.
MR. ASHCRAFT A LOT THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING TO SAY, OK, MRS. WAYMACK, WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING TONIGHT AND SHARING THIS NICE OCCASION WITH US.
WE'RE SO PROUD OF THAT YOUNG MAN.
HE MADE QUITE A NAME FOR OUR COUNTY.
MR. CARMICHAEL, YEAH, I CAN'T SAY NO MORE.
I KNOW MY 89 YEAR OLD MOM SET UP EVERY NIGHT AND SHE GETS UP AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING, BUT
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SHE HAD TO MAKE SURE SHE WATCHED THAT SHOW EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.OH YEAH, YEAH, HE MADE A BIG IMPRESSION.
MY WIFE WATCHED IT RELIGIOUSLY.
MR. WHY? I UNDERSTAND MR. HUNTER.
I JUST HONORED TO HAVE HIM HERE, AND IT WAS GOOD TO HAVE THIS LITTLE GET TOGETHER OVER SCOTT PARK.
NICE TO SEE HIM AND DO HIS THING ON ON THE FRONT END OF ONE OF THE FIRE TRUCKS.
AND AGAIN, I ECHO ALL OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT.
IT'S DEFINITELY AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE TO HAVE HAD HIM HERE WITH US.
I'M SORRY, I WASN'T ABLE TO BE AT HIS EVENT OVER AT SCOTT PARK, BUT I'M GLAD I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFINITELY MEET HIM THIS EVENING.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS COMMENTS FROM TOM.
I WOULD ASK MS. DREWRY IF YOU WOULD COME AND DO.
WELL, NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS (Part 1 of 2)]
WE'LL COME BACK TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WILL GO TO A1 AND A2 UNDER ORDER OF BUSINESS A1, EXCUSE ME, AS UNDER TAB TEN BOARD MEMBERS.BOARD MEMBERS MR. ASHCRAFT, MR. WHITTEN.
AS CHAIRMAN BROWN INDICATED, THE FIRST ITEM IS AN AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR OUR AERIAL IMAGING, SOFTWARE LICENSING AND RELATED SUPPORT SERVICES WITH PHOTOMETRY.
SINCE 2013, THE COUNTY HAS CONTRACTED WITH PHOTOMETRY INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION TO ENGAGE THEM FOR IMAGING SERVICES.
AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE MAPS AND AERIAL IMAGING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.
MANY DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY RELY ON THESE SERVICES TO PROVIDE UPDATED MAPPING FOR OPERATIONS, INCLUDING GENERAL LACK, GEO CAD SYSTEM OR ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
AND THIS SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY INTEGRATED WITH MANY SYSTEMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE.
AND IN FACT, IT IS THE ONLY SOFTWARE AND SYSTEM THAT INTEGRATES WITH OUR NEWLY PURCHASED KAMMA SYSTEM VISION.
SO AT THIS TIME, IT IS CONSIDERED A SOLE SOURCE.
OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO CONSIDER SPECTROMETRY A SOLE SOURCE AS WELL FOR THOSE SYSTEM INTEGRATIONS AND SOFTWARE SUPPORT.
WE ARE ASKING THIS EVENING THAT THE BOARD AWARD A CONTRACT TO PICK ODOMETRY INTERNATIONAL AND THE AMOUNT OF TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY SIX DOLLARS.
THIS IS FOR A SIX YEAR PERIOD AND BY ENGAGING IN A CONTRACT OF THIS DURATION, I BELIEVE WE DID SAVE APPROXIMATELY $30000 A LITTLE BIT MORE BY ENGAGING IN THAT CONTRACT.
IT IS BROKEN UP INTO THREE TWO YEAR PROJECTS AND THE ANNUAL COST IS BROKEN OUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ISSUE AND ANALYSIS DREWRY MS. PRINCE GEORGE IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR A NEW COUNTY ASSESSOR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SOFTWARE AND SERVICE OR QUESTIONS ON THE CONTRACT, AS ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
WELL, BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, SINCE THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION IN THE BACK OF OUR BOOK.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS TOPIC, SO I BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. HUNTER, AND IT'S BEEN SICKENED BY MR. WEBB THAT THE BOARD WOULD AWARD THIS CONTRACT TO PICK COMETARY INTERNATIONAL.
AND THIS IS FOR THE PURCHASE OF AERIAL IMAGING IMAGING SOFTWARE BOARD MEMBERS.
ARE YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? MS. KNOTT WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. WEBB YES, MR. HUNTER.
YES, WE NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM A2 UNDER OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS, AND SO AGAIN WILL BE MS., DREWRY AND TAB 11 IN YOUR BOOK.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WE DID RECEIVE INSURANCE PROCEEDS FROM THE OR THE COUNTY'S INSURANCE PROVIDER FOR VEHICLES AND PROPERTY LIABILITY.
WE RECEIVED A CHECK IN THE AMOUNT OF FORTY THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE DOLLARS AS A RESULT OF THE TOTALING OF RESCUE THREE, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY WAS STRUCK FROM THE REAR ON THE INTERSTATE, AND IT DID RESULT IN A FATALITY OF THE OTHER DRIVER.
THERE WAS SOME LAG IN RECEIVING THESE INSURANCE PROCEEDS DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT CLAIM.
WE ARE ASKING THIS EVENING THAT THOSE FUNDS BE APPROPRIATED TO THE COUNTY'S CIP APPARATUS ACCOUNT AND AGAIN, THE AMOUNT OF THAT IS FORTY THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE DOLLARS.
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DREWRY, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAD, AND CHIEF BEAMON IS ALSO AVAILABLE.DOES ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. DREWRY ON THIS? AGAIN, IT WAS IN OUR BOOK.
I'M CERTAIN IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. WEBB, AND IT'S BEEN SECOND BY MRS WAYMACK THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE THESE INSURANCE PROCEEDS AND THAT THEY WOULD BE APPROPRIATED TO THE COUNTY'S FIRE AND EMS APPARATUS ACCOUNT WITHIN THE CIP FUND.
YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, YOU'RE READY FOR THE QUESTION.
MRS KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. HUNTER? YES, MR. CARMICHAEL.
STILL STILL COULD PROBABLY GET ONE MORE IN.
ALL RIGHT, 2:52, WE'LL GO TO NEXT.
CHIEF MUHAMMAD, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO PRESENT THAT.
KNOTT ON MR. WHITTEN SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE, YES, WE AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A AN AGING FLEET OF AMBULANCES CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THE APPROPRIATION OF TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY DOLLARS FOR THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT TO SOUTHERN SPECIALTY VEHICLES FOR THE PURCHASE OF A NEW AMBULANCE.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS I'VE CURRENTLY GOT TWO AMBULANCES RIGHT NOW IN 2012, ROUGHLY NINE YEARS OLD, WITH 120 PLUS THOUSAND MILES ON THEM THAT ARE CONSTANTLY GIVING US PROBLEMS. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS RIGHT NOW THERE IS A LEAD TIME OF 18 MONTHS FOR ANY FIRE EMS SERVICE TO GET AN AMBULANCE RIGHT NOW DUE TO COMPUTER CHIPS.
WE WERE ABLE TO PULL SOME STRINGS AND WE ACTUALLY GOT LUCKY BECAUSE OUR CURRENT MANUFACTURER THAT BUILDS THE AMBULANCES FOR US WAS ACTUALLY BUILDING AN AMBULANCE PER HOUR SPECS TO USE AS A DEMO.
SO THEY'RE GUARANTEEING US THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS AMBULANCE DELIVERED BY FEBRUARY MARCH OF THE LATEST.
SO IF WE DIDN'T ACT ON THIS RIGHT NOW, I'VE GOT AN AVERAGE ABOUT ONE OR TWO AMBULANCES BROKEN DOWN A WEEK.
AT ONE POINT WE ACTUALLY HAD THREE ANALYSTS SITTING IN THE SHOP FOR THAT ONE WEEK.
WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO DO IS TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE THIS AMBULANCE, GET IT BY APRIL AND THEN LATER ON IN A COUPLE MORE YEARS, TAKE THE 2011 AMBULANCES OR CHOOSE TO BE IN 2012 AMBULANCES AND TAKE THOSE BOXES OFF OF THOSE AND REMOUNT THOSE ON CHASSIS.
ONCE THEY BECOME AVAILABLE, IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN HALF THE COST OF AN AMBULANCE, BUT IT SAVE US A TON OF MONEY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY OUT THERE FOR US TO GET, AND THE MONEY IS ACTUALLY LEFTOVER FUNDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE APPARATUS REPLACEMENT FUND.
OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR BEEMAN CHIEF BEEMAN? SO BASICALLY, WE HAVE ABOUT 300 AND 18000 IN THE APPARATUS FUND CHIEF IS ASKING FOR TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY ALLOCATED FROM THAT TO BE USED FOR THE THIS PARTICULAR SPECIALTY VEHICLE.
BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS TOPIC, PLEASE.
AND SECOND, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECOND BY MR. CARMICHAEL THAT THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE THIS AMBULANCE PURCHASE.
BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.
YOU'RE READY FOR THE QUESTION.
MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. CARMICHAEL YES.
YES, IN THE MOTION IS CARRIED.
IN FACT, THE MOTION WAS CARRIED ON ALL THREE TOPICS A ONE, TWO AND THREE.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
AND IT'S NOW TIME FOR US TO GO TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE MOVING ON TO P1, WHICH IS A REZONING PUBLIC HEARING BOARD MEMBERS THAT IS UNDER TAB 14 IN YOUR BOOK AND VICTIMS COMING TO THE MIC NOW.
YES, SIR, AND GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN BROWN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ASHCRAFT AND MR. WHITTEN.
I'M PLANER AND I'M PRESENTING THE CASE.
WHICH IS TO CATCH MY BREATH JUST HAD THE MASK ON REQUEST OF AND C PACKAGING SYSTEMS, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THE ACTUAL REQUEST WAS MADE BY MARK MUELLER OF MUELLER BUILDERS, WHICH IS A CONTRACT PURCHASER, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE APPROVED CONDITIONS FOR ZONING CASE ZM NINETY FIVE ZERO ONE.
THAT'S FROM NINETEEN NINETY FIVE TO ESSENTIALLY CHANGE THE PERMITTED USES AND ALLOW OUTSIDE STORAGE ON THIS TWO ZONE PROPERTY.
THE SPECIFIC USE IS CONTRACTOR'S EQUIPMENT, STORAGE YARD OR PLANT OR RENTAL OF EQUIPMENT COMMONLY USED BY CONTRACTORS, AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR A GENERAL
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CONTRACTOR OFFICE.AND WITH THE FABRICATION OF METAL ROOFING MATERIALS AND TO ALLOW OUTSIDE STORAGE.
ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY LOCATED ON PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE OR OFF OF PRINCE GEORGE DRIVE AND.
ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING MAP, THE PROPERTY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN BLUE HERE AND IT'S ZONED M2, WHICH IS THE GRAY COLOR.
YOU'VE GOT COMMERCIAL ZONING IN RED.
R2 IS THE ORANGE RESIDENTIAL ZONING AROUND THAT, AND THERE'S ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL ZONING.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A STRIP OF THAT M2 ZONING AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PARCELS IN THERE.
I HEAR YOU CAN SEE THE AERIAL VIEW.
YOU'VE GOT THE BUILDING INSIDE OF THERE WITH THE ACCESS ROAD AND THE PART.
THE PARCEL IS PARTIALLY COVERED BY TREES AND TO THE SOUTH.
THERE IS, I THINK, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE SOUTHWEST AND THEN ALSO WEST OF THAT AND THERE'S A COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS TO THE SOUTHEAST.
AND ON THE NORTH SIDE, YOU'VE GOT NORTH AND WEST SIDES, YOU'VE GOT VACANT PROPERTY AND ON THE EAST SIDE YOU'VE GOT VACANT PROPERTY.
AND A LITTLE BACKGROUND HERE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED TO INDUSTRIAL IN 1990 FROM AGRICULTURAL AND THAT THAT REZONING CASE ALLOWED ONE SPECIFIC USE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND IN NINETEEN NINETY FIVE, THOSE ZONING CONDITIONS WERE CHANGED FROM ANOTHER CASE.
AND THAT ALLOWED A DIFFERENT USE ON THE PROPERTY, A DIFFERENT INDUSTRIAL USE.
THAT WAS THE SALE OF SALE AND REPAIR OF STRAPPING MACHINES.
IT WAS LAND AND STRAPPING CORP..
SO HERE BEFORE HERE, NOW THE OWNER WANTS TO SELL TO A NEW USER FOR DIFFERENT LAND USE, SO THEY'VE GOT TO COME TO BEFORE THE BOARD FOR THAT SPECIFIC LAND USE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THEIR GOALS ARE AGAIN GENERAL CONTRACTOR OFFICE THAT WILL INCLUDE THE FABRICATION OF METAL ROOFING MATERIALS.
THIS IS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT SPECIALIZES IN METAL ROOFING METAL ROOFING.
MUELLER BUILDERS AGAIN IS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUTSIDE STORAGE OF MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT RELATED TO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND THE REASON THEY'RE MAKING THAT REQUEST IS THE ZONING CONDITIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
DON'T ALLOW OUTSIDE STORAGE, AND THEY ALLOW A DIFFERENT USE THAN THAN THIS.
SO THEIR REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS OF THE OF THE ZONING CASE THAT CURRENTLY APPLIES TO THE PROPERTY SO THAT THEY CAN DO THAT ACTIVITY AND THEY SO THAT THEY CAN DO THOSE ACTIVITIES YOU SEE THERE.
PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS WERE THAT WE IDENTIFIED THE APPROPRIATE PERMITTED USE THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN THE TWO ZONING DISTRICT, SO WE'RE JUST NOTING THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE OF THE ZONING DISTRICT HERE, ONLY A CHANGE OF THE USE AND FUTURE OWNERS AND OCCUPANTS WOULD NEED TO RETURN TO THE COMMISSION AND THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
OUTSIDE STORAGE, WE JUST NOTED, SHOULD BE BEHIND FENCES OR OTHERWISE SUITABLY SUITABLY SCREENED, AND THAT'S THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE IN THE ZONING ORDER ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO WE ALSO FELT THAT THIS WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE SURROUNDING AREA BASED ON THIS APPLICANT SPECIFIC USE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING WITH THE WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE IF THIS IS APPROVED.
PRIMARY STAFF REVIEW COMMENT FROM VDOT BASICALLY THAT THE SITE ACCESS IS SUITABLE.
HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING THERE AND ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S THE FENCED AREA THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS, IS IDENTIFIED WITH THE HIGHLIGHTING, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IS THE AREA THAT THEY PLANNED TO START WITH FOR FOUR OUTSIDE STORAGE.
IT'S THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING AND A VIEW OF THE FENCED AREA BEHIND THE BUILDING.
SO WITH THEIR INITIAL APPLICATION, THEY REQUESTED CHANGES TO THE CONDITIONS AND STAFF REVIEWED THOSE AND PROPOSED THESE CHANGES, WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ASKED FOR SPECIFICALLY, IS A CHANGE TO THE AGAIN CHANGE TO THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
SO THE CONDITION NUMBER TWO THERE IS CHANGING IT FROM SALE AND REPAIR OF STRAPPING MACHINES, PARTS AND SUPPLIES TO THE USE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE A CONTRACTOR'S OFFICE IN THE FABRICATION OF METAL ROOFING MATERIALS.
THE THIRD ITEM, THEIR WELL CONDITION NUMBER THREE, PREVIOUSLY SAID NO EXTERIOR STORAGE.
NOW IT WOULD SAY OUTSIDE THE STORAGE, SUCH AS KNOTT ENCLOSED UTILITY TRAILERS OR MOTORIZED EQUIPMENT SHALL BE SCREENED WITHIN AN AREA ENCLOSED ON ALL SIDES
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BASICALLY NEEDS TO BE OPAQUE, NOT VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD OR OTHER PROPERTIES SIX FEET IN HEIGHT.BASICALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THE ZONING WARRANTS.
BUT THAT'S THE ACTUAL SPECIFIC CHANGE THAT IS PROPOSED.
AND THE LAST ITEM THERE, THE CONDITION NUMBER FIVE, IS JUST REMOVED BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ZONING CASE APPLIED TO MULTIPLE TAX PARCELS IN THIS REQUEST ONLY APPLIES TO THIS ONE TAX PARCEL.
SO ON THE PARCELS THAT THE ORIGINAL ZONING CASE APPLIED TO, THEY THAT ZONING CASE FROM 1995 STILL APPLIES TO THOSE PARCELS TO THE EAST AND WEST OF THIS PROPERTY, SO THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU SAY THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, THE FULL CONDITIONS ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AGAIN, WE ONLY CHANGE THE TWO OR THREE CONDITIONS YOU SAW THERE.
THE OTHER CONDITIONS STAYED THE SAME AND THEY WERE PERTAINING TO SCREENING WITH VEGETATION.
SO AGAIN, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THIS CASE ON THE AUGUST MEETING.
THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SEVEN TO ZERO AND THERE WEREN'T ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AND STAFF ADVERTISED THIS BEFORE THE COMMISSION HEARING AND BEFORE THIS HEARING ALL THE REQUIRED ADVERTISEMENTS.
WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS.
SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED BY CHARLIE CHARLES IS ON ZOOM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT.
SO BASICALLY EITHER OF US IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
BOARD MEMBERS, AS ANY BOARD MEMBERS, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THE ONLY POSSIBLE SPEAKING OF THEN, IS THE ONE THAT WAS JUST THE LAST SLIDE WAS HIGHLIGHTED.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN THE ONE IN FRONT OF THAT.
THAT ACTUALLY IS BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE HIGHWAY ONE FIFTY SIX.
YEAH, I BELIEVE THEY EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN PURCHASING THAT.
BUT THAT DOES THIS NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST RIGHT NOW.
THIS REQUEST WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE PARCEL THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED.
ARE THEY GOING TO BECOME A BUSINESS THAT PUTS THE ROOFS ON? ARE THEY JUST GOING TO BE A SUPPLIER FOR RETAIL FOR SALE? THEY PUT THE ROOFS ON SO THEY'LL FABRICATE THEIR PANELS AND ROOFING COMPANIES WILL BE LOCATED ON THAT SITE.
NO, THEY ARE A ROOFER OR THEIR ROOFER.
YES, THEY MAKE THEIR OWN METAL PANELS THAT THEY TAKE TO THEIR JOB SITES.
I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING NO ONE AT THIS TIME.
WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT, EITHER FOR OR AGAINST.
WE ASK YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME YOU'LL BE GIVEN.
WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ITEM P ONE.
ANYONE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE, IF KNOTT MR. STOKE, WOULD YOU PLEASE SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM P ONE? PLEASE, SIR, FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS, WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING P ONE TO AMEND PROFFERED CONDITIONS FOR C AND C PACKAGING SYSTEM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER NOW TO BE RECOGNIZED.
PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NO ONE ON ZOOM WISHING TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU, MR. STOKES, SEEING THAT THERE'S NO ONE ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM OR ON ZOOM.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL RETURN THE MATTER BACK OVER TO THE BOARD BOARD MEMBERS IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS ON ITEM ONE? I WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PASS IT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND? IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. HUNTER.
AND SECOND BY MRS WAYMACK THAT THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE THIS REZONING CASE.
YOU'RE READY FOR THE QUESTION.
MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MRS. WAYMACK? YES, MR. BROWN.
I'M JUST GOING TO SHIFT JUST A LITTLE BIT, ONLY I'M GOING TO JUMP TO P THREE REAL
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QUICK BECAUSE I THINK THIS ONE WILL GO PRETTY QUICK AND THEN I EXPECT IT WILL PROBABLY HAVE MORE INPUT ON P TWO.SO IF I'M IN ORDER, LET'S MOVE TO P THREE REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO P TO.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS TO CONSIDER COMMENTS ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE SCHOOL OPERATING BUDGET AND THE AMOUNT OF TWO MILLION SIX HUNDRED SIXTY SIX THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SIXTY NINE DOLLARS AND SIXTY FIVE CENTS.
THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED AN INCREASE IN ITS FY 20 TO BUDGET ON AUGUST 12TH FOR JUST OVER TWO POINT SIXTY SIX MILLION, STEMMING FROM TWO ADDITIONAL FEDERAL RELIEF SOURCES.
FIRST IS THE SCHOOL AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOL EMERGENCY RELIEF, OR NCR THREE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY DOLLARS.
A SECOND SOURCE IS CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE AND RELIEF SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT, OR C RSA S S R FUNDING TO ACRONYMS, AND THE AMOUNT OF THAT SOURCE WAS ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE DOLLARS AND SIXTY FIVE CENTS, AS THE BOARD IS AWARE.
ANY TIME THE BUDGET IS AMENDED, AMENDED FOR AN AMOUNT THAT EXCEEDS ONE PERCENT OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET OR IN THE CASE OF FY 20 TO OVER ONE MILLION THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED FIVE DOLLARS, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE BOARD DID ADVERTISE OR AWARD ALLOW US TO ADVERTISE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AT ITS SEPTEMBER 14 MEETING.
THE AD RAN IN THE MONDAY EDITION OF THE PROGRESS INDEX SEPTEMBER 20TH AND ONE AD IS REQUIRED.
THE SCHOOL BOARD PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION THAT INDICATES THEY PLAN TO USE THE ACR FUNDS.
THE $1.5 MILLION POT TO ADDRESS COVID RELATED LEARNING LOSS.
20 PERCENT OF THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE AND FOR BUILDING ROOF REPAIRS.
SO THE BREAKDOWN IS PROVIDED THERE.
THERE IS SOME COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS ALONG WITH SOFTWARE, AS WELL AS OVER A MILLION FOR ROOFING AND ROOF REPAIRS.
THE OTHER SOURCE WILL BE COMPLETELY USED FOR IMPROVEMENT TO FACILITIES.
ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THE IMPACT WILL APPROVAL OF THIS APPROPRIATION WILL ALLOW THE SCHOOL DIVISION TO MAKE USE OF THE FUNDS AS THEY'VE SPECIFIED WITHIN THEIR OPERATING AND GRANT FUNDS.
THERE IS NO LOCAL MATCH OR LOCAL FUNDING IMPACT FOR THIS CHANGE.
FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE ARE ASKING THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER AND POSSIBLY APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR TWO MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED SIXTY NINE DOLLARS AND SIXTY FIVE CENTS.
THAT'S AN EXTRA ZERO AND FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
THERE'S ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. DREWRY.
OK, IF NOT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS ITEM THREE ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THIS PORTION OF P3 OPEN FOR PUBLIC INPUT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WITHOUT IT, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL BE GIVEN FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE? I SEE NO ONE MOVING FORWARD TO THE PODIUM, MR. STOKE, WOULD YOU PLEASE SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS? WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING P3 APPROPRIATION OF SCHOOL FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER NOW TO BE RECOGNIZED.
PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NO ONE ON ZOOM WISHING TO SPEAK.
THERE'S NO ONE ON ZOOM OR HERE IN THE ROOM.
WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND RETURN THE MATTER OVER TO THE BOARD.
BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE DISCUSSION.
WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE ON THIS TWO POINT SIXTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS FOR OUR SCHOOL DIVISION?
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MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.THE ONLY REASON WE HAD TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WAS BECAUSE OF THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THESE FEDERAL FUNDS BEING PASSED ON TO THE SCHOOL AS INTENDED.
YES, SIR, I NEED A SECOND, PLEASE.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. HUNTER, AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY MRS. WAYMACK THAT THE BOARD WOULD APPROPRIATE THIS TWO POINT SIXTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS OF FEDERAL RELIEF FUNDS TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. BROWN? YES, MR. WEBB.
NOW WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM P TWO, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF CHANGING THE SINGLE MEMBER ELECTION DISTRICTS.
THIS IS UNDER TAB 15 IN YOUR BOOKS.
I THINK WE HAVE MR. WHITTEN, WHO WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DAN WHITTEN, COUNTY ATTORNEY, COUNTY, MUST REDISTRICT IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
CAN I GET YOU TO PULL THAT, MIKE TO YOU? JUST.
THE COUNTY HAS TO REDISTRICT IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE AFTER RECEIVING THE RESULTS FROM THE 2020 CENSUS.
THE FINAL REDISTRICTING TOOLKIT SHOULD BE DELIVERED TO US BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, WHICH IS IN TWO DAYS.
VIRGINIA CODE SECTION FIFTEEN POINT TWO 12 11 GIVES THE AUTHORITY TO THE BOARD TO REDISTRICT THE COUNTY INTO MAGISTERIAL DISTRICTS, CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT, CHANGE THE NAME OF THE DISTRICTS OR INCREASE OR DIMINISH THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS.
VIRGINIA CODE SECTION TWENTY FOUR POINT TWO THREE HUNDRED FOUR POINT ONE ALLOWS THE BOARD TO CHANGE FROM AT-LARGE DISTRICTS TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
AFTER PROPER ADVERTISEMENT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE BOARD CAN ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO CHANGE FROM THAT LARGE DISTRICTS TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND AMEND THE COUNTY CODE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS FROM TWO TO FIVE.
IF THE BOARD SO DESIRES, THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT WOULD BE TO SUPPORT THE CHANGE FROM SINGLE MEMBER TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, AND THAT WOULD GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF AS WE BEGIN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS TO LOOK AT REDISTRICTING IN THE FIVE DISTRICTS RATHER THAN THE CURRENT TWO.
SO WE WOULD THE BOARD WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK AT A LATER POINT TO ACTUALLY AMEND THE COUNTY CODE TO ACTUALLY STATE THAT THERE WOULD BE FIVE DISTRICTS, THE PURPOSE OF THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT WOULD JUST BE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF AS THEY BEGIN REDISTRICTING.
TO DO FIVE DISTRICTS RATHER THAN THE CURRENT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
I BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC INPUT PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS ITEM TWO, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF CHANGING THE SINGLE MEMBER ELECTION DISTRICTS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, WE WOULD ASK IF YOU WOULD PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, YOU'LL BE GIVEN FOUR MINUTES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN YOU'LL BE GIVEN THE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
THE SAME COURTESY WILL BE AFFORDED TO THOSE THAT ARE ON ZOOM.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ROOM AT THIS TIME WISHING TO SPEAK? I SEE MR. EASTHER MAKING HIS WAY UP, SO I'LL TALK AWHILE UNTIL HE GETS UP HERE.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THIS MATTER AFTER MR. EASTER, YOU CAN JUST PROBABLY STAND UP THERE AGAINST THE SIDE OF THE WALL OR JUST BE READY TO COME UP AS SOON AS HE'S HE'S DONE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. EASTER, SIR.
MY NAME IS JAMES EASTER AND I RESIDE AT 800.
SOUTH PRINCE GEORGE TWO THREE EIGHT ZERO FIVE.
THAT'S RICHARD LAND AREA, AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM AND PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY FROM FROM THAT OF A MULTI MEMBER ELECTORAL DISTRICT SYSTEM TO ONE OF SINGLE MEMBER ELECTORAL DISTRICTS.
AND LET ME BE CLEAR, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT THE TRANSITION TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS WITHIN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BECAUSE THE CURRENT ELECTORAL SYSTEM THAT EXISTS IN THIS COUNTY IS FRAUGHT WITH UNFAIRNESS TO COUNTY RESIDENTS AND IT'S PROBABLY ILLEGAL.
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LET ME EXPLAIN.THE MULTI-MEMBER DISTRICT SYSTEM THAT EXISTS IN THIS COUNTY IS WITHOUT EQUAL ACROSS THE STATE.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, THERE ARE 95 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA AND NOT ONE.
OF THOSE 95 COUNTIES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PRINCE GEORGE, HAS A SYSTEM OF MULTI MEMBER ELECTORAL DISTRICTS NOT WANT.
WHAT DOES THAT SUGGEST? FURTHER SUGGESTS THAT THESE COUNTIES KNOW SOMETHING THAT RESIDENTS OF PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY DO NOT KNOW, AND THAT THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY RESIDENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO REALIZE AND ENJOY.
THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE NEIGHBORS.
DINWIDDIE, CHESTERFIELD AND RICO HANOVER, SUSSEX AND ALL THE OTHER 94 COUNTIES EMPLOY SINGLE MEMBER ELECTORAL DISTRICTS.
BECAUSE THESE COUNTIES WANT TO ENSURE THAT A CLIMATE OF VOTER FAIRNESS EXISTS WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES.
THERE ARE TWO ELECTORAL DISTRICTS IN THIS COUNTY DISTRICT ONE.
WHICH HAS TWO ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND DISTRICT TWO, WHICH HAS THREE MEMBERS ELECTED TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THIS ALIGNMENT ENSURES THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY RESTS WITHIN DISTRICT TWO, A SITUATION ON ITS FACE AND WITHOUT A DOUBT IS UNFAIR TO THE COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE.
AND IT IS UNFAIR TO THE COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF INDIVIDUAL VOTES.
SECOND, THE CURRENT MULTI-MEMBER DISTRICT.
IN THE COUNTY, SUPPRESSES OR DILUTES THE VALUE OF THE VOTE CAST BY THE RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT ONE.
LET ME EXPLAIN, AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE, I GET TO VOTE FOR TWO PERSONS TO REPRESENT ME ON THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
A FRIEND OF MINE WHO LIVES OVER IN DISTRICT TWO GETS THE VOTES OF THREE PERSONS TO REPRESENT HIM ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THIS GIVES HIM A VOTING ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THE COUNT IS MULTI-MEMBER DISTRICTS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY'S MULTI-MEMBER DISTRICT DESIGN.
THIS IS A 50 YEAR OLD PROPOSITION THAT WE'RE TALKING NINETEEN OR TWENTY TWENTY SEVENTEEN IS WHEN WHEN ALL OF THIS TOOK PLACE.
FIFTY YEARS OF THIS UNFAIRNESS.
SUCH A SYSTEM IS FLAWED AND UNFAIR TO A LARGE SEGMENT OF VOTERS AND RUNS COUNTER TO THE OFTEN STATED VALUE OF ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE.
MR. MR. MR., I DON'T MEAN TO CUT ACROSS YOU, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WRAP UP THE CLOSE OF YOUR COMMENTS.
FINALLY, I CONCLUDE THAT THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITY OF ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL IS TO DO ALL WITHIN THEIR CAPABILITY TO ENSURE THE FAIRNESS, ACCESS AND INTEGRITY OF THE VOTING PRIVILEGES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ELECT THEM.
ACTING IN DEFENSE OF VOTER FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY OF PRESENTATION FAR OUTWEIGHS ANY ACTIONS TO DECIDE WHERE ROADS SHOULD BE BUILT, INFRASTRUCTURE INSTALL OR THE DESIGN OF A LOCAL TAX.
SIMPLY PUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT ACTION AN ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN TAKE ARE THOSE ACTIONS WHICH ENSURE FAIRNESS AND EQUAL TREATMENT AND PROTECTS THE SANCTITY AND INTEGRITY OF THE VOTE.
TO SUPPORT THE TRANSITION TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON? THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
ARE YOU DOING? MR. SIEGEL, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WILLIAM STEELE COUNTY LINE ROAD.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK MS. WAYMACK.
MS. WAYMACK TO MY QUESTIONS THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.
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THEY WERE VERY INFORMATIVE AND I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE ME ON THAT.MR. CHAIRMAN, I TOO AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT, BOTH BOTH MULTI AND SINGLE OBVIOUSLY HAVE ADVANTAGES TO IT.
WHICH RAISED ME TO THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT IS SIMPLY THIS IT'S A SMALLER BLOC OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORE DIRECT CONTROL AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.
RIGHT NOW I HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES HERE AND IN MY DISTRICT, IT'S JUST ONE.
I HAVE TWO OF YEARS TO MAKE DECISIONS.
WE'RE ALWAYS HELPING AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS A THREE TO TWO VOTE KNOTT SAYING THAT IT'S ALWAYS THREE TO TWO IN THE SOUTH DISTRICT.
BUT THE POINT BEING IS YOU, AS OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE, I WILL HAVE MORE DIRECT ACCOUNTABILITY OR BE ABLE TO DEMAND MORE DIRECT ACCOUNTABILITY FROM A SINGLE MEMBER THAN I DO FROM TO.
I RESPECT EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT YOU SAY, WE THINK OF THE WHOLE COUNTY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE WHOLE COUNTY? AND I RESPECT YOU SAYING THAT.
BUT THE FACT IS THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN DISPUTE TANNER AND THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE, I HAVE SEEN YOU DO NOTHING FOR THIS.
BUT YET YOU'RE INCREASING MY TAXES TO PAY FOR ALL THE BENEFITS IN THE NORTH COUNTY.
MIGHT IT HELP THE WHOLE COUNTY? I DON'T KNOW.
SCOTT PARK, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR US IN THIS FRITTATA? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
NOBODY DOWN THERE GOES THAT FAR.
WE HAVE OUR OWN PARKS, BUT YET WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.
AND I HAVE NOBODY THAT I CAN GO TO THAT IS DIRECTLY THAT I CAN HOLD DIRECT ACCOUNTABILITY TO BECAUSE TO BOTH OF YOU AREN'T FROM THIS MUTHANA.
MR. EASTERLY IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IT'S THE FAIRNESS ISSUE THAT'S IMPORTANT HERE.
AND I ASK THAT THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT GIVES ME A MEMBER OF DISPUTA, HAVING MY OWN REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT GANADOR OR TEMPLETON AREA.
IN THIS CASE, IF WE GO BY MAGISTRATE DISTRICT, I WILL HAVE SOMEBODY THAT THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE TO US, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHAT SWAYS ME OVER.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASKED THE MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO PLEASE, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS WITH PG COUNTY.
WHY ARE WE ALWAYS A SORE THUMB STICKING OUT ONE OUT OF NINETY FIVE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENTS? WE ARE ONLY ONE OUT OF THE NINETY FIVE COUNTIES THAT HAVE LESS THAN 100000 POPULATION.
I GUESS I NEED TO BRUSH UP ON MY HISTORY AND JUST BE.
BUT WE NEED TO COME UP AND, YOU KNOW, BE LIKE, BE THE RED STATE.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND GET SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
IT IS BETTER FOR EVERY VOTER IN THE COUNTY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK AGAIN? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL BE GIVEN FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
LIZ SMITH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN BROWN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MR. ASHCRAFT AND MR. WHITTEN.
MY NAME IS VIRGINIA SMITH AND I LIVE AT ONE ZERO FOUR SIX FIVE JORDAN PARKWAY, NORTH PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA TWO THREE EIGHT SIX ZERO.
IT'S LOCATED IN DISTRICT TWO, SO I HAVE THREE REPRESENTATIVES SITTING ON THE BOARD FROM DISTRICT TWO.
I I AGREE WITH WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, AND I AM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF MAKING THE TRANSITION FROM TWO MULTI-MEMBER DISTRICTS TO ONE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
OF COURSE, OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS MADE UP OF FIVE SUPERVISORS AND IT WOULD BE REASONABLE OR IT IS REASONABLE TO THINK THAT EACH SUPERVISOR WOULD REPRESENT A SINGLE DISTRICT IN PRINCE GEORGE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WHAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED.
ALL OF YOU WORKING TOGETHER AS A BOARD TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN THE COUNTY.
WELL, CURRENTLY THIS APPEARS NOT TO BE TRUE IN PRINCE GEORGE.
HOWEVER, IN OUR REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT, WE WOULD REPRESENT, WE WOULD EXPECT, WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE A ONE ON ONE REPRESENTATION SERVING IN OUR GOVERNING BODIES BODIES.
YET WE HAVE THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM DISTRICT TWO, MY DISTRICT AND TWO REPRESENTATIVES SERVING ON THE BOARD FROM DISTRICT ONE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE MY SISTER'S DISTRICT.
IT DOES NOT MAKE IT A SEAMLESS PROCESS TO CONTACT MY REPRESENTATIVE OR TO HELP ME EITHER IN SOLVING PROBLEMS OR TO HAVE MY OPINION OR MY VOICE HEARD
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ON ANY ISSUE THAT MIGHT BE FACING THE COUNTY.AND NOT TO REPEAT WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID AND NOT TO INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BY BY DRAGGING BACK, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.
I THINK I'LL JUST TELL YOU MY STORY OF HOW I REACHED OUT TO MY THREE REPRESENTATIVES AND HOW IT WAS ENJOYABLE TALKING WITH YOU.
BUT IT WAS ALSO VERY CUMBERSOME BECAUSE INSTEAD OF JUST WRITING ONE LETTER, ONE EMAIL OR MAKING ONE FALL PHONE CALL AND TALKING DIRECTLY TO MY REPRESENTATIVE, I HAD TO MAKE.
I HAD TO WRITE THREE LETTERS, MAKE THREE PHONE CALLS AND AND AND AND EMAILS.
I DID WHAT IT TOOK BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT EACH OF YOU HEARD FROM ME DIRECTLY, SO I TALKED WITH MR. HUNTER, MR. WEBB AND MS. WAYMACK.
I LEFT A VOICE MESSAGE FOR YOU, BUT.
UM, IT IS STILL MY OPINION THAT CONTACTING YOUR REPRESENTATIVE IN A REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE SEAMLESS, AND TRANSITIONING INTO A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT WOULD MAKE IT A SEAMLESS PROCESS.
I SOMETIMES THINK THAT THAT THAT WHAT I WENT THROUGH AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO WROTE LETTERS TO YOU WENT THROUGH IS TRULY A PRIME EXAMPLE OF SUPPRESSING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN HOW WE'RE GOVERNED BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE GIVE UP VERY EASILY WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO, WHEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE STEP TO HEAR THE VOICE HEARD.
SO AGAIN, TONIGHT I KNOW THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
REPRESENTING ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE, AND I KNOW THAT WE MUST DO BETTER, WE MUST DO BETTER TO ENCOURAGE MORE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND TO SHOW MORE ONE ON ONE REPRESENTATION.
AND WE CAN DO THAT, OR YOU CAN DO THAT TONIGHT BY VOTING YES TO TRANSITIONING TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS HERE IN OUR LOVELY PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER PERSON HERE IN THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO BEFORE WE MOVE TO FOLKS ON ZOOM? I SEE NO ONE ELSE MOVING TOWARDS THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.
MR. STOKE, WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC BEING ITEM TWO OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR ALL ZOOM PARTICIPANTS? WELCOME TO PUBLIC HEARING TO SUPPORT OF CHANGING TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE FOUR MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER NOW TO BE RECOGNIZED.
PHONE USERS MAY PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE OUR FIRST PERSON MS. THORN.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ASHCRAFT, MR., WHITTEN, MR. STOTE, MY NAME IS JUANITA THORN AND I RESIDE AT 92 FOR THE OLD STAGE ROAD.
YOU'RE IN BEAUTIFUL PRINCE GEORGE.
ON JULY 21ST, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO YOUR WORK SESSION WHERE YOU DISCUSSED THE OPTIONS OF MOVING TO A SINGLE MEMBER ELECTORAL DISTRICT.
THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL CAME ACROSS AS SELF-SERVING.
IN OTHER WORDS, PROTECTING YOUR TURF.
AS DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS OF THIS COUNTY, I HOPE THAT IS NOT YOUR INTENT.
OK, I UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE CAN BE TOUGH SOMETIMES, AND IT COMES DOWN TO CHOICE.
I READ AN ARTICLE RECENTLY THAT GENERALLY SPEAKS TO THE SUBJECT OF GEORGE.
THE THE EXCERPT FROM THAT ARTICLE READS, AND I QUOTE.
THE CHOICE BETWEEN WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT WE WANT IS PARTICULARLY TOUGH BECAUSE IT REQUIRES US TO PUT DOWN OUR STUBBORNNESS AND HURT OUR OWN EGOS.
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EVEN WHEN WE ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE WHAT WE WANT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT, WE NOW FIND OURSELVES FACED WITH A CHOICE BETWEEN WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS EASY.MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TONIGHT, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT IS EASY OR DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
I HOPE YOU WILL CHOOSE WHAT IS RIGHT AND APPROVE MOVING PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY TO A SINGLE MEMBER ELECTORAL DISTRICT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ON ZOOM THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? MR. CHAIRMAN MS. JENNINGS.
AND THAT'S THE CHAIRMAN, BROWN AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.
OTHER BOARD MEMBERS MR. ASHCRAFT, MR., WHITTEN MR. STOKE.
MY NAME IS AMY MILLER JENNINGS.
I LIVE AT NINETY SIX POINT THIRTY NINE SANDY RIDGE ROAD, NORTH PRINCE GEORGE AND I AM IN DISTRICT TWO.
THE FINDINGS OF THE 2020 CENSUS IDENTIFIED PRINCE GEORGE AS THE FIFTH FASTEST GROWING LOCALITY.
THIS MAKES IT AN IDEAL TIME TO EVALUATE THE CURRENT STRUCTURE OF OUR ELECTED BOARDS, IF NOT.
IF YOU DON'T MAKE A CHANGE IN THIS IN THIS CURRENT STRUCTURE, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY LOCK IT IN FOR 10 YEARS.
SO THIS IS WHY THIS SITUATION IS EXTREMELY TIME SENSITIVE.
WHILE THE RESOLUTION SAYS SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE MAKEUP OF THE CURRENT BOARD, IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AS OTHER FOLKS HAVE MENTIONED.
AS IT STANDS, I DON'T HAVE A SINGLE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR OR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER THAT I CAN HOLD ACCOUNTABLE THE CHANGE.
THE SENIOR MEMBER DISTRICT SOLVES THAT VERY PROBLEM.
OUR SYSTEM OF DISTRICTS IS FLAWED AND IT DOES NOT PROMOTE ANY SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE OATH THAT EACH OF YOU TAKE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD IS FUNDAMENTALLY BASED ON THE COUNTY ELECTION FOR OFFICERS OF DISTRICT NUMBER ONE AND DISTRICT NUMBER TWO.
WE CERTAINLY ALL WANT TO FOCUS ON THE GREATER GOOD OF OUR COUNTY.
THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE AND I WANT TO REPEAT THAT IS NOT IN DISPUTE.
HOWEVER, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT A DISTRICT MEMBER, THEY ARE ELECTED AND THEREFORE STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO SERVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE DISTRICT THAT THEY WANT ELECTION FOR.
UNDER THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AND PRACTICE, THE REVERSE COULD BE ARGUED THAT CURRENT MEMBERS MAY NOT BE DOING ENOUGH FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS IF A MEMBER IS VOTING FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AS OPPOSED TO THEIR DISTRICT AT LARGE, THEN THEY ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE IN ANY FORM TO THE MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY VOTE THEM TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND CITIZENS THAT ACTUALLY PUT THEM IN OFFICE.
SO THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM.
THIS PROBLEM EXISTS FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL, AND SO THAT'S WHY A DECISION THAT THIS BOARD MAKES IT WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT YOUR STRUCTURE, BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I BET YOU'RE CHAIRMAN, WE LOST.
I'M GOING TO SHE'S BACK ON TIME FOR A SECOND.
AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN BRING HER BACK.
AND HERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S WONDERFUL CONNECTION.
MS. JENNINGS, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
OK, BUT I CAN TELL YOU HAVE A MINUTE, 23, THREE LEFT, I THINK.
OK, SO JUST TO GET BACK, THIS PROBLEM EXISTS NOT ONLY FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT ALSO FOR THIS BOARD.
SO ANY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT AFFECTS BOTH BOARDS.
WE'RE UNDER THIS CURRENT STRUCTURE FOR 50 YEARS.
YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BE MAKING THIS DECISION FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
SO AS YOU'RE MAKING THIS VOTE, PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY ABOUT HOW YOU
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YOURSELF WOULD VOTE.YOU'RE ALSO MAKING A VOTE BASED ON WHAT THE FUTURE OFFERS HOLDERS MAY OR MAY NOT DO.
THEY MAY CHOOSE A DIFFERENT PATTERN OF VOTING, AND POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE ILLEGAL.
SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THIS PLACE.
I SPOKE WITH A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE RESIDENTS AND WERE THAT WERE THERE ON JUNE 11, 1971, AND SPOKE OUT ABOUT THE OVERALL SYSTEM THAT WAS BEING CHANGED.
THERE WERE FIVE BOARD MEMBERS AT THAT TIME.
AND EVEN THE CHAIR AT THAT TIME, CHAIRMAN TEMPLE, HE EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT CHANGING TO THIS OVERALL SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY MINUTES DO NOT REFLECT IN DETAIL THE COMMENTS FROM FROM CITIZENS LOCAL NEWSPAPER REPORTS ACTUALLY DO.
CITIZENS SPOKE OUT REGARDING QUOTE, DILUTING THE MINORITY VOTE.
THE THE COUNTY IN MAKING THIS CHANGE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU ARE MAKING A CHANGE, WHEN YOU HAVE A VOTE FOR THREE IN DISTRICT TWO VERSUS TWO IN DISTRICT ONE, IF YOU FOLLOW THE PATTERN THAT YOU WERE ELECTED FOR.
THEN I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BENEFIT AS A MEMBER OF DISTRICT TWO, I WILL MEMBER, I WILL BENEFIT AS FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AND I WILL BENEFIT FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS POINT OF VIEW.
THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS ONE MAN, ONE VOTE, WHICH I PREFER TO SAY ONE WOMAN, ONE VOTE.
BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, IT'S NOT FAIR.
THIS SYSTEM TURNS THAT SYSTEM ON ITS HEAD.
IT ALLOWS CITIZENS AND DISTRICT TWO TO CONTINUOUSLY HAVE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.
I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY SAY THAT HISTORY IS GOING TO REFLECT YOUR ACTIONS TONIGHT, MS. JENNINGS.
WE KNOW THAT YOUR VOTE WILL BE.
I NEED FOR YOU TO WRAP UP BECAUSE YOU'RE OVERTIME.
YOUR VOTE HERE COULD BE REFLECTED FOR 10 YEARS, PLEASE THINK OF THAT.
NO, THANK MR. CLAIBORNE WAS CLAPPING, NOT RAISING HIS HAND.
MR. CLYBOURNE, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NO ONE, NO ONE ELSE WISHING TO I SEE YOUR HAND UP.
LET ME SEE IF, MR. I SAW MS. CHOCOLATE, IAN, COME UP.
MS. CHOCOLATE THAT'S GONE MUTE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, I HIT THE WRONG REACTION TO YOU.
OH, ONE GOOSE HAVEN LANE PRINCE GEORGE.
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT GOING TO A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
EVERYONE WHO'S SPOKEN BEFORE ME HAS MADE SOME VERY GOOD POINTS.
I I AGREE THAT THIS IS NOT THE PROPER WAY TO REPRESENT THE DISTRICTS WE.
EVERYWHERE ELSE IN OUR GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE PER DISTRICT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT MADE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY THINK THAT WAS A BAD IDEA.
AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF REASONS AS TO WHY IT HAPPENED OR RUMORS AS TO WHY IT HAPPENED.
THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION THERE.
BUT THE THING IS WE DON'T DO THIS ANYWHERE ELSE IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
WE DON'T EVEN DO THIS ANYWHERE ELSE IN OUR STATE.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY GOOD JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WHY WE SHOULD CONTINUE ON WITH OUR CURRENT SETUP.
AND IT DOES AFFECT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, IT DOES AFFECT THE SCHOOL BOARD.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO DRAG THIS OUT.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT GOING TO A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
I SEE MR. CLAIBORNE HAS A HAND UP.
OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MEETING ME.
MY ADDRESS IS NINETY SEVEN POINT THIRTY SIX.
MILLSTONE DRIVE NORTH PRINCE GEORGE, VIRGINIA TWO THREE EIGHT SIX ZERO.
I AM A RETIRED MILITARY VETERAN.
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I'VE BEEN IN THE COUNTY SINCE NINETEEN NINETY FOUR.SO WE TALK ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN YEARS.
THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE MY WHOLE TIME HERE AND I DID NOT.
I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT AND I'M SURE MANY OF THE MILITARY PEOPLE WHO RETIRED IN HERE, THE COUNTY DON'T KNOW THIS EITHER.
AND MR. EASTER BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY.
HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO TALK ABOUT AND TRY TO CORRECT.
MR. EASTER SAID THAT NINETY FOUR OTHER COUNTIES ARE NOT REPRESENTED THIS WAY.
AND THEN SOMEONE SAID, MAYBE THEY KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IT'S THAT WE KNOW SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE NOT LETTING PEOPLE KNOW.
THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THEM.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS YOU HAVE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS FOR SOME TIME AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
IT'S KIND OF A ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, AM I REALLY A CRITICAL PERSON OF MYSELF OR AM I A CRITICAL OF EVERYONE ELSE AND NOT MYSELF? AND THE QUESTION COMES TO YOU, IS YOUR DECISION? NO ONE CAN MAKE IT FOR YOU.
BUT YOU SHOULD WANT TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS LAST WEEK AND ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SAID TO ME THAT I ALWAYS TRY TO BE FAIR.
I IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING GOING ON WITH THE FIRE TRUCKS.
THE FIRE TRUCKS DON'T HAVE A DECISION WHAT HOUSE TO GO TO? AND I SAID, WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BIGGER THAN JUST A FIRE TRUCK.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS DECISION COULD AFFECT FUTURE ISSUES.
IT ALSO COULD BE IN PLACE FOR 10 MORE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, AND I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK HARD AND PROTOCOLS ARE BEING SET.
SO I DIDN'T MEAN TO DISRESPECT ANYBODY BY NOT CALLING MR. BROWN THE CHAIRMAN AND EVERYONE ELSE, BUT PROTOCOL HAS ALREADY BEEN SET.
I JUST RESPECT THE FACT THAT I'VE SERVED MY COUNTRY AND A LOT OF MILITARY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY HAVE SERVED THEIR COUNTRY, AND THEY DON'T EXPECT THEIR COUNTY TO SERVE THEM AS WELL IN A WAY THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU THAT YOU DO THE RIGHT THING AND JUST MOVE TO THE SINGLE DISTRICTS.
ARE WE GOOD, MR. STOKE? IS THERE ANYONE ON ZOOM WISHING TO SPEAK? PLEASE RAISE YOUR ELECTRONIC HAND NOW.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE ON ZOOM WISHING TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU, MR. STOKES, SAYING THAT THERE'S NO ONE ELSE ON ZOOM AND NO ONE ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM P 2 AND RETURN THE MATTER BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
BOARD MEMBERS WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF DISCUSSION ON THIS.
WE'VE HEARD THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE ARE NOW AT A POINT I, AS THE CHAIR, NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
COMMENT PLEASE, I 'D LIKE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR TURNING OUT AND ALL YOUR COMMENTS.
THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
I'VE HAD SOME VERY NICE CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE SITTING IN THIS AUDIENCE, THE LADY SITTING OVER THERE FOR ONE THIS PAST SUNDAY.
BUT HERE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE.
IF BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S ALWAYS PREACHED, I'M GOING TO DO THE BEST FOR THE COUNTY BY INFORMATION AND DATA GIVEN TO ME WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY OVERALL AS A WHOLE? ALL RIGHT.
WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING, WE COULD POSSIBLY IF WE STAY LIKE WE WERE, WE COULD POSSIBLY FLIP FROM A THREE TO FROM DISTRICT TWO TO ONE TO THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT UNFAIR ADVANTAGES, THAT'S ONE THING, OK? BUT THE OTHER THING OF IT IS IF YOU LOOK AT YOU, CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY EVERY FOUR YEARS IF YOU DON'T LIKE OR DON'T HAVE OR HAVE CONCERNS WITH YOUR REPRESENTATION.
THAT'S THE TIME TO SPEAK UP, PUT SOMEBODY IN THAT YOU RESPECT, BECAUSE WE MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION, QUITE FRANKLY, IS CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE IF IT GETS OUT IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, IT COULD HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT TO THE COUNTY FOR THAT PART.
THE OTHER CONCERNING THINGS I HAVE IS YOU HAD TWO SLOTS OPEN THIS YEAR IN THIS
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COUNTY.TWO SLOTS, ONE ON DISTRICT ONE, ONE ON DISTRICT TWO SIDE.
NOT THE FIRST PERSON, GOT A PETITION AND TRIED TO RUN.
WHAT KIND OF WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PERCEPTION AND MESSAGES AND I'LL SAY BEAR WITH ME, I SEE PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEADS, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WILLING TO RUN, OK, TAKE THE CHANCE, STEP OUT THERE AND RUN TO TRY TO DO WHAT YOU THINK IS WHAT'S RIGHT.
THEN WHAT KIND OF SIGNAL IS THAT SENDING? I KNOW FOR A FACT, AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK JUST FOR ME, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE BOARD.
SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I HAVE MET WITH THREE, AT LEAST 300 BY MY LAST COUNT.
I TRY TO GET ROUGH NUMBERS, BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING THE OUTAGE.
THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT PHONE CALLS.
OVER 30 PERCENT OF THOSE MEETINGS, EITHER AT THEIR HOUSE OR WHATEVER LOCATION THEY CHOSE, HAS BEEN DISTRICT ONE NOT DISTRICT TWO.
HERE'S ANOTHER PIECE OF DATA OK.
IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VOTING RECORD, FORGET WHAT WAS VOTED ON, I'M NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DREDGE ALL THAT UP.
IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VOTING HISTORY FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, JUST TO PASS TWO YEARS ALONE.
OTHER THAN A UNANIMOUS VOTE, NINETY NINE POINT NINE PERCENT OF THE TIME, IT'S A THREE TO TWO VOTE.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WITH A PERCEPTION WITH THE NUMBERS.
HOWEVER, IT'S TWO DISTRICT TWO, ONE DISTRICT ONE.
AND YOU'VE GOT THE NO OR THE YES, WHICHEVER WHICH WAY TO SLIDE WAS, A DISTRICT ONE AND A DISTRICT TWO.
NOW HERE IS THE MOST CONCERNING THING I GOT AS FAST AS THE COUNTY IS GROWING, EVEN IF YOU WENT TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
HOW WOULD YOU KEEP IT BALANCED? AND THE LAST AND LEAST COMMENT I'LL MAKE THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I AM FORMER MILITARY AND I BELIEVE IN RANK AND FILE, BUT I BELIEVE IN NOTHING'S PERSONAL.
I'M REALLY THICK SKINNED BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHAT'S FAIR, CONSISTENT IN WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY OVERALL, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T CARE TO KNOW, MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, AND THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, AND THAT'S OK.
BUT AS A BOARD MEMBER, I'M OBLIGATED TO AT LEAST EXPLAIN BOTH SIDES TO YOU AND STAND TALL AND STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND TELL YOU WHY, WHY I DON'T SUPPORT THIS OR WHY THIS IS THE REASONS WHY.
AND HOPEFULLY I CAN PUT ENOUGH INFORMATION DATA TOGETHER THAT EVEN IF YOU STILL DON'T LIKE WHAT I'M TELLING YOU OR HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, AT LEAST YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS.
SO THEREFORE, I CALL IT, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT IT'S BEING AS FAIR AND AS STRAIGHT UP AS I CAN BE.
THE BIGGEST CONCERN I GOT, AND I POSE THIS QUESTION TO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS.
MATTER OF FACT TO CONVERSATIONS I HAD.
WHEN YOU MAKE THE COMMENT ABOUT HAVING ONE REPRESENTATIVE, I UNDERSTAND IN TODAY'S WORLD, NOT EVERYBODY HAS A COMPUTER.
NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO TAKE TIME TO DO THAT.
WE SHARE INFORMATION WE DO, WE TRULY DO.
EVEN THEY DON'T BELIEVE WE DO.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND PERCEPTUALLY WHY YOU MAY THINK THAT FROM TIME TO TIME.
BUT WHEN YOU MAKE A COMMENT TO ME PERSONALLY ALL RIGHT.
ME PERSONALLY, THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO MAN AND HOLD SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE.
WELL, I CHALLENGE YOU, YOU CAN HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING I'VE VOTED ON SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD IN SIX AND A HALF YEARS.
THE DEMAND PART IS WHAT GETS KIND OF SCREWY.
BECAUSE SAY, I'VE GOT A DISTRICT, SO WE GO TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
AND SAY I'VE GOT FOUR THOUSAND FOUR ROUND NUMBERS.
I GOT FOUR THOUSAND IN MY DISTRICT.
I HEAR FROM 30 PEOPLE IN THAT DISTRICT.
AM I SUPPOSED TO? OR GOING TO BE DEMANDED TO COME UP AND VOTE THE WAY THEY WANT ME TO VOTE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO CONTACT OR HEAR THE REMAINING PARTY THAT 4000 PEOPLE? THAT PUT THAT PUTS A BOARD MEMBER IN A PRETTY BAD SPOT.
I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH BROADBAND AND ALL I SPENT WEEKENDS AND TALKED TO OVER 60 PEOPLE, ABOUT THE MONEY.
IT WAS A BIG EXPENDITURE, IT WAS A BIG RISK, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THE COUNTY NEEDED, THE WHOLE COUNTY NEEDED AND WE HAD TO START [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE THAT'S L.L.C., THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I GOT TOLD? FIVE MINUTES OUT HERE IN THIS HALLWAY BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED.
MR. WEBB OR TJ, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE IT WAS CALLED ME, BECAUSE I GO BY T.J.
WE ELECTED YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU DO.
YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH, YOU KNOW THE INFORMATION, IF YOU THINK IT'S THE BEST IN THE COUNTY, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE IT, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO VOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST FOR THE COUNTY AND WE WILL ACCEPT WHATEVER
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YOU VOTED FOR.NOW, SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEADS, AND THAT'S OK.
BUT THAT'S SOME OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY YOU CAN'T HOLD ANYBODY ACCOUNTABLE, YES, YOU CAN.
IT TAKES A LITTLE EFFORT, BUT YOU CAN.
AND IF PEOPLE DON'T HEAR YOUR VOICES.
UNLESS YOUR EMAIL WENT INTO A SPAM ACCOUNT, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU I CHALLENGE ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTY TO TELL ME THEY'VE EVER CALLED ME, AND I HAVE NOT CALLED THEM BACK AND NOT MADE A LOG OF IT AND NOT MADE A FOLLOW UP CALL THAT I COMMITTED, THAT I WOULD GET THE INFORMATION IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWER AND I WOULD GET BACK TO YOU WITH IT.
SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT? DO I SEE US FAILING? ME PERSONALLY, DON'T.
BUT I DO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS, AND I UNDERSTAND I'M JUST CONFUSED IS WHAT THE KIND OF LIKE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS MAY BE OR WHAT THE PERCEPTION MAY BE, THAT MAY BE A BETTER WAY OF PHRASING WHAT THE PERCEPTION MAY BE OF WHEN YOU START USING THE TERMINOLOGY OF DEMAND.
ACCOUNTABILITY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH.
I'VE BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE ALL MY LIFE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER WITH THAT DEMANDING SOMETHING OF ME.
IF I KNEW IT WAS WRONG OR I HAD THE INFORMATION JUST BECAUSE I COULD NOT SWAY YOUR MIND OR HELP EDUCATE YOU ENOUGH OR GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT MY THOUGHTS ARE THIS WAY OR WHAT DATA SUPPORTS IT, THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME.
YES, I NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT BECAUSE I SEE SOME PEOPLE HAVE RAISED THEIR HAND.
THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED, WHICH ACTUALLY CLOSES ANY PUBLIC, ANY OTHER PUBLIC INPUT.
THE MATTER HAS BEEN TURNED BACK OVER TO THE BOARD.
THE BOARD IS ALLOWED TO MAKE A FINAL COMMENT BEFORE THEY DECIDE ON ANY ACTION.
SO THAT'S WHY WE AGAIN, I ACKNOWLEDGE THERE WERE HANDS UP, BUT WE CANNOT ADDRESS THAT AT THIS TIME.
AM I IN ORDER MR. WHITTEN? THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S UNDER THE BOARD BYLAWS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER BEFORE WE DECIDE ON WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING? IS THERE ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER THAT HAS ANY INPUT? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS SYSTEM CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF FEDERAL INTERVENTION BACK WHEN THE VOTING RIGHTS CAME INTO BEING.
THE FEDS CAME IN AND THEY EXAMINED EVERYBODY'S JURISDICTIONS ON ALL OVER VIRGINIA, AND THEY FELT THAT IN PRINCE GEORGE, THERE WERE SEVERAL DISTRICTS THAT ALL THE MINORITIES WERE IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
SO THAT'S WHY THE FIVE MEMBER DISTRICTS WE HAD AT THAT TIME THEY CHANGED INTO TWO MEMBER DISTRICTS.
DOES YOUR RESEARCH BEAR THAT OUT MR. WHITTEN? THAT'S CORRECT, AND ALSO, I BELIEVE, IS 2013, THE PREVIOUS COUNTY ATTORNEY MR. MEEKS DID WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND BASICALLY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DID REVIEW OUR CURRENT PLAN AT THE TIME, AND OUR JUSTICE DID NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH IT, SO IT WASN'T DEEMED ILLEGAL AS SOME.
SO IT IS NOT ILLEGAL AS SOMEONE TO SUGGEST.
ANY INPUT, I'LL VOICE MINE LAST.
WHAT MR. WEBB, IT STATED IT IS DIFFICULT AND.
I'M FINISHING MY 14TH YEAR AND TWO MORE YEARS LEFT, AND I'M DONE.
AND I WELCOME ANYONE TO SIGN UP, GET YOUR SIGNATURES AND RUN AND DO WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP BETTER PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY.
BUT MY ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED IN JANUARY OF 2008, WHEN I TOOK OFFICE WAS I THOUGHT THERE MAY BE SOME UNFAIRNESS THAT I MAY HAVE TO GO AGAINST WITH THREE VOTES IN DISTRICT TWO AND ONLY HAVING TWO IN DISTRICT ONE THAT WE HAD.
AND I WAS QUICK TO REALIZE THERE WAS NO SUCH OF UNFAIRNESS THAT I'VE SEEN.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANYONE THAT PLANS ON RUNNING FOR A BOARD SEAT, WHETHER IT'S A SCHOOL BOARD OR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT THEY HAVE THE INTEREST AS MR. STEELE SAID, HE APPRECIATES THE COMMENT, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE THE INTERESTS OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY WHEN YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
AND THE 14 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE AND AND BOARDS PRIOR TO MYSELF I HAVEN'T SEEN THE THE UNFAIRNESS WHERE ONE SIDE GOT MORE THAN THE OTHER.
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IT WAS MORE THAT I THINK HAVING IT THE WAY IT'S SET UP NOW, THE BOUNDARY LINES ARE ARE ALREADY PRESENTED TO ALL THE CITIZENS IN THIS COUNTY, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL SAID THEY DON'T LIKE CHANGE OR CITIZENS DON'T LIKE CHANGE JUST AS MUCH AS ANYONE OF NOT KNOWING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE OR WHO THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IS OR WHO THEY NEED TO CALL.AND AS MR. WEBB SAID, YOU CAN CALL ANY BOARD MEMBER YOU WANT, WHETHER IF YOU LIVE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY AND WE'LL BE WILLING TO HELP YOU AND LISTEN.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE OUR ANSWER OR YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GETTING ENOUGH INFORMATION, THEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL FOUR OTHERS.
I JUST CAN'T PUT MY FINGER ON A DETAIL WHERE I FEEL LIKE DISTRICT ONE IN THE YEARS THAT I'VE SERVED HAVE BEEN SLIGHTED ON ANYTHING THAT WE PUSH FOR.
MONEY IS ALWAYS THE TOPIC OF ANY DISCUSSION AND HOW MUCH CAN BE SPENT AND PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
BUT I VOTED ON JUST AS MANY PROJECTS TO GO FORWARD AND DISTRICT TWO SIDE BECAUSE I KNOW IT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF DISTRICT ONE.
AND MEMBERS OF DISTRICTS 2 WHO HAVE VOTED, ALONG WITH DISTRICT ONE SUPERVISORS TO GET A NEW CARSON FIRE STATION, TO ENHANCE THE RECREATION FOR FOR THE CHILDREN OVER IN DISTRICT ONE TO GET THE WELLNESS CENTER OPENED BACK UP, SO PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY COULD HAVE A GYM.
DO YOU GET THE VDOT COMPLAINTS AS MANY AS WE COULD, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM BUT GET THE ROAD ISSUES TAKEN CARE OF.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH, AS MR. WEBB HAS STATED, RIGHT ON FOUR SIXTY LOOK IN DISTRICT ONE AT ALL THE BUILDINGS AND AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING FROM EXIT 45 TO ANYWHERE SOUTH IT'S GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER.
AND I JUST AS A DISTRICT ONE SUPERVISOR, I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT I GET FROM THE DISTRICT TWO SUPERVISORS AND IN ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS ON OUR SIDE OF THE COUNTY.
AND I JUST FEEL I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S 94 COUNTIES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CITIES THAT HAVE DISTRICTS, SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN WHERE WHEN YOU DIVIDE THESE CITIES AND COUNTIES INTO FIVE TO SEVEN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, SOMETIMES THEY CAN GET NOTHING ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER MAKING DEALS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OR THEY ARGUE SO MUCH THEY CAN'T EVEN GET THE MEETING AND THE AGENDA STARTED.
IF I HAD MORE INFORMATION OR SOMEONE NEEDED TO POINT OUT A SPECIFIC DETAIL WHERE DISTRICT ONE, THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WHERE THE SUPPORT FROM DISTRICT TWO SUPERVISORS DID NOT HELP IN ANYTHING WE NEEDED, THEN I'M WELCOME THOSE SITUATIONS THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE SEEN THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN.
THE PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, I THINK, HAS BEEN AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT'S BEEN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE BOARDS THAT THAT WORK TOGETHER AND SIDES, AND WE PUT THAT, WE PUT THAT TO THE SIDE WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE THESE HARD DECISIONS.
BUT I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S OPINION AND I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL HAD TO SAY THIS EVENING.
I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT'S JUST BEEN SAID, I HAVE TO SAY THAT SOME REALLY VALUE GOOD POINTS BEING MADE BY BOTH THE CITIZEN INPUT AND MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T SEE THAT WE'VE EVER BEEN UNFAIR.
AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE GENERAL TONE HERE TONIGHT.
AND I AGREE WITH WHAT MS. CARMICHAEL JUST SAID.
I COULD SEE MORE CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS IF WE HAD THE FIVE DISTRICTS, AS WE DO THE TWO DISTRICTS.
I KNOW IT'S EITHER BEEN FIVE-0, FOUR-ONE OR THREE-TWO.
IT'S GOT TO BE THAT WAY, BUT IT'S MR., WEBB SAID.
IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THREE TWO, NOT USUALLY ONE AGAINST TWO.
I'M TALKING ABOUT DISTRICT ONE AGAINST DISTRICT TWO.
IT'S USUALLY JUST SOME DIFFERENCE IN OPINIONS OR DIFFERENCE IN THOUGHT.
SO I HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD.
OK, I'M GOING TO GIVE MY OPINION.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE THE MOST FAVORED OPINION, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE IT ANYWAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS, BOTH HERE IN THE ROOM AND ON ZOOM.
I AM HONESTLY IN SUPPORT OF SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY.
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FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE OURSELVES OUT OF IT.I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY THAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT HAS SAID FLOYD BROWN, ALAN CARMICHAEL, TJ WEBB OR, YOU KNOW, MARLENE WAYMACK OR DONALD HUNTER HAS PERSONALLY STOOD IN THE DISTRICT ONE DISTRICT TWO LINE AND VOTED ON TOPICS STRAIGHT DOWN DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE OURSELVES OUT OF IT.
I SEE SOME CHALLENGES THAT ON THE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD THAT I THINK ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO NOT HAVING SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, I'M GOING TO USE SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS AS EXAMPLES AND I'LL PUT MYSELF IN IT.
MR. CARMICHAEL AND I WERE IN DISTRICT ONE.
THERE'S PROBABLY TIMES PEOPLE CALL ME AND BRING UP A TOPIC TO ME AS A DISTRICT ONE REP THAT I HAVE PROBABLY FAILED TO DISCUSS THAT WITH MR. CARMICHAEL.
HOW DO YOU HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES IN ONLY 50 PERCENT KNOW ABOUT A REQUEST OR QUESTION? I WOULD DARE SAY THAT'S PROBABLY HAPPENED ON MR. CARMICHAEL SIDE.
NOT ANYTHING DONE ON PURPOSE, BUT WITH SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, I SEE PEOPLE HAVING ONE REPRESENTATIVE TO CALL, MAKING SURE THAT THEIR MESSAGE IS HEARD.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK THAT I REALLY SEE THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS FOR ELECTIONS.
OUR DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW ARE SO BIG THAT I HAVE SEEN WHERE PEOPLE FOCUS ON THE POLLING STATIONS THAT HAVE THE BIGGER NUMBER OF VOTES.
AND IF YOU GET OUT THERE AND CAMPAIGN AND YOUR FOCUS IS JUST ON A PARTICULAR PRECINCT TO ME, YOU STILL MAY COVER THE WHOLE COUNTY.
BUT NONE OF US CAN SIT HERE AND SAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE MOST OF THE VOTES ARE TODAY.
AND IF YOU FOCUS ON THAT, YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME THAT YOU'RE GETTING OUT THERE AND SPEAKING TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN A RESPECTIVE DISTRICT, BE IT ONE OR BE IT DISTRICT TWO, YOU'RE REALLY CATERING MORE TO WHERE I'M GOING TO GET THE MOST NUMBER OF VOTES.
AND I CAN SAY THAT FAIRLY ACROSS BOTH DISTRICTS, SO I WON'T GO INTO REPEATING EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT.
I PERSONALLY AM IN SUPPORT OF IT.
I'VE STATED MY REASONS, BE IT RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT.
BOARD MEMBERS, WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? WE KNOW WHAT THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE.
WE CAN EITHER TAKE THE RESOLUTION AS IT'S STATED, YOU CAN REWORD THE RESOLUTION, I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS OR IF THIS AN ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO NOT MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
LET ME FIND THE RIGHT TAB MR. CHAIRMAN.
YES, SIR, THAT IS UNDER TAB 15 IN YOUR BOOKS.
AND RIGHT NOW, THE RESOLUTION, LET ME GET THERE IS IN SUPPORT OF WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF MOVING TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, AS MR. WHITTEN STATED, THAT WOULD THEN GIVE STAFF THE DIRECTION OF KNOWING WHICH WAY TO WORK TOWARDS WHEN THEY GET THE CENSUS DATA.
AS HE STATED, THOUGH, IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THE FINAL, YOU KNOW, CHANGING OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD STATE MOVING FROM TWO MAGISTERIAL DISTRICTS TO FIVE MAGISTERIAL DISTRICTS.
BUT THIS WOULD BE IF THIS RESOLUTION WOULD KIND OF GIVE STAFF THE NOD AS TO WHICH DIRECTION TO WORK TOWARDS, WHILE REVIEWING THE CENSUS DATA THAT SHOULD BE COMING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, OK? MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU MADE IT CLEAR HOW YOU STAND ON THIS, AND I THINK I HAVE AS WELL, SO I WILL START BY SAYING MR. WHITTEN, WE CAN CHANGE THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE RESOLUTION NOT IN SUPPORT OF CHANGING THE SINGLE MEMBER ELECTRIC DISTRICTS AND MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE ON NOT CHANGING AND LEAVING IT AS IT IS.
IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. CARMICHAEL, AND IT'S BEEN SECOND BY MR. HUNTER THAT THE RESOLUTION WOULD STATE THAT THE BOARD WOULD NOT MOVE TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, THAT WE WOULD STICK WITH THE TWO MAGISTERIAL DISTRICTS.
ARE YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? MRS KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. BROWN, NO, MRS. WAYMACK, YES.
MR. HUNTER, YES, MR. WEBB, YES.
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THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT ENDS THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.WE WILL NOW MOVE BACK TO OUR AGENDA.
[COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR’S COMMENTS]
MR. ASHCRAFT YOU WANT TO COVER YOUR ITEMS AT THIS TIME, SIR, BEFORE WE GO TO REPORTS.I'M SORRY, WE'VE DONE REPORTS.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
YOU HAVE MY REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO COVER ALL THE DETAILS, BUT SOME THINGS I FEEL LIKE THE PUBLIC WE SHOULD EMPHASIZE TONIGHT.
THERE'S AS FAR AS THE COVID UPDATE I THINK WE'RE FOLLOWING AND SEEING NATIONWIDE AND CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE THE SENSE OF URGENCY TO GET PEOPLE VACCINATED, THOSE AT LEAST WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
AND THE GOVERNOR MADE A PLEA YESTERDAY, PROBABLY AS COMPELLING AS ANY PUBLIC STATEMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE IN A WHILE IN OUTLINING THE THE REASONS WHY IT'S ONLY IMPORTANT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TO GET VACCINATED, BUT CERTAINLY THE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR WORKPLACES AND FAILURE TO VACCINATE JUST CREATES A MULTITUDE OF PROBLEMS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND RIGHT NOW, OUR GOVERNMENT OR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE IN OUR MANDATE TO MASK.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR REGULATIONS.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS LONG AS THIS COUNTY STAYS AS A HIGH RISK COUNTY, WHICH MOST OF THE COUNTIES IN VIRGINIA ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WE ENCOURAGE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY COME INTO THE BUILDING, IF THEY WOULD WEAR THEIR MASKS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO THAT AND OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE GREETING THEM WITH WITH A MASK ON.
TO DATE, PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY HAS HAD FOUR THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SIX CASES DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO FEBRUARY OF 2020.
AS A MATTER OF PERCENTAGE, WE'VE ONLY HAD 35 DEATHS.
OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE TRIPLED THAT AMOUNT, SO WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT REGARD.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE THREAT OF A OF A VARIANT THAT STILL EXISTS, EVEN FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE HAD THE VACCINE.
THAT'S THE REASON FOR WEARING THE MASK AND TO TRY TO KEEP OUR DISTANCE SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE OUR GOVERNMENT AS BEING ANYTHING MORE THAN JUST TRYING TO PRESERVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
IT'S NOT A DECISION TO THE LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT.
IT'S JUST TO TRY TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WE CARE ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY AND WE JUST ASK THEM TO THINK LONG AND HARD WHEN THEY MAKE THIS DECISION.
MS. CHAIRMAN OF A FEW DATES OF INTEREST TO EVERYONE.
WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD MEETINGS WITH OUR PASTORS COUNCIL AND THAT ONE WILL TAKE PLACE AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER THE 30TH.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SIT IN ON THAT, THOSE ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WE CAN GET YOU LINED UP WITH THE ZOOM LINK AND I THINK YOU WOULD YOU WOULD ENJOY IT.
OUR FARMER'S MARKET WILL SOON ENTER IN ITS LAST MONTH, THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, AND THERE'S NO QUESTION THIS HAS BEEN A RECORD SETTING MARKET FOR OUR COUNTY DATING ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHEN THIS STARTED.
BUT THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF ACTIVITY TO BE SEEN.
WE'RE HAVING A KIDS' DAY, I THINK, LATER IN THE MONTH.
THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO BUY.
VENDORS WHO HAVE BEEN VERY LOYAL.
SO WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO HADN'T BEEN THERE DO IT.
AND IF YOU ARE A REGULAR THANK YOU FOR VISITING AND CONTINUING TO DO SO.
THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON ABOUT THE THE NOVEMBER 2ND GENERAL ELECTION.
FIRST OF ALL, WE'D LIKE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR WHETHER YOU DON'T, THE POLITICAL SIGNS THAT ARE AROUND THE COMPLEX, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
IT'LL CONTINUE TO BE A POLLING PLACE UNTIL THE LAST SATURDAY, PRIOR TO THE THE GENERAL ELECTION.
SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, AS LONG AS PEOPLE STAY 40 FEET FROM THE DOOR, THEY CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PUBLIC WHO ENTERS.
THEY'RE WELCOME TO PUT THEIR SIGNS UP IN THE GRASSY AREAS.
IT MAKES A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO US HAVING TO CUT THE GRASS, BUT WE'LL GET IT DONE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER, BUT WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT THAT
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THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE THERE AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO BE THERE AS LONG AS WHOEVER PUT THEM THERE OR WHATEVER POLITICAL CANDIDATE WANTS THEM THERE, THEY'LL STAY THERE.SO AND WE HAVE IN-PERSON VOTING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8:30 TO 5:00 IN THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THE LAST TWO SATURDAYS OF OF OCTOBER, THEY WILL HAVE IN-PERSON VOTING ON THAT DAY, STARTING AT NINE O'CLOCK, I BELIEVE, UP UNTIL UP UNTIL 5:00.
WE HAD ALMOST 300 TO VOTE IN PERSON AS OF LAST FRIDAY.
I'LL TRY TO GET THAT COUNT OUT AT LEAST ONCE EVERY WEEK, AND I'M SURE THERE'S BEEN MORE THIS WEEK AS MORE AND MORE INTEREST GROWS ON THAT.
ON SATURDAY, THOSE OF YOU LIKE PLANTS, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OUR GROUPS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPONSORING PLANT SALES.
THE BURROWSVILLE FRIENDS OF BURROWSVILLE WILL HAVE ONE ON SATURDAY FROM 8:30 TO NOON AT THE BURROWSVILLE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THEN OUR MASTER GARDENERS WILL HAVE THEIR ANNUAL SALE BEGINNING AT 8:30 UNTIL 12:30, AND THAT'LL BE OVER AT THE HERITAGE CENTER.
WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT THEM.
IT'S BEEN MENTIONED TONIGHT ABOUT EXIT 45 AND SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE DOWN THERE.
OUR CONSULTANTS WILL BE MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS ON OCTOBER THE 7TH.
THAT MEETING WILL BE AT THREE O'CLOCK.
BOARD MEMBERS ARE CERTAINLY INVITED TO ATTEND THAT MEETING.
IF WE SEE MORE THAN THREE, THEN WE'LL HURRY UP AND CALL QUICK MEETING.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT THE TAKE IS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS PERSPECTIVE.
WE HAD HAD THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE AND WE DID HAVE MORE THAN THREE, BUT THEY ALLOWED US TO BE PRESENT BUT NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
I THINK IT'S CORRECT, MR. WHITTEN THAT WE COULD NOT TALK.
THEY TOLD US TO STAND OVER THERE AND BE QUIET.
IT WAS TOUGH FOR ME, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO LISTEN BUT NOT SPEAK ON ANYTHING.
PRINCE GEORGE CRIME SOLVERS THERE ANNUAL RIB FEST THAT'S ON OCTOBER THE 7TH AS WELL, FROM FOUR TO SEVEN, AND THAT'S AT SCOTT PARK.
THAT'S ALWAYS WELL ATTENDED AND IT'S ALWAYS FOR A A NOTABLE CAUSE.
WE GET A LOT OF A LOT OF TIPS FROM THE PUBLIC THROUGH THAT ORGANIZATION, AND IT'S JUST VERY GOOD.
OUR WELLNESS CENTER WILL REOPEN ON FRIDAY AND THE ACTIVITIES AT THE FITNESS CENTER, WITHIN THE WELLNESS CENTER AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE GYM, LIKE PICKLEBALL, THAT'LL START THE FOLLOWING MONDAY.
SO WE'RE GLAD TO GET THAT FACILITY BACK IN OPERATION.
ALL THE TENANTS THERE WHO HAVE, THE NOT FOR PROFITS, WHO OCCUPY SPACE THAT CAN MOVE IN AND START HAVING THEIR MEETINGS AND DOING ALL THAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE.
AND WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE ON OCTOBER THE 30TH FROM 11 A.M.
TO TWO P.M., AND WE HOPE THE PUBLIC WILL COME OUT AND SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
WE DO HAVE A NEW SHELTER FACILITY THERE THAT I THINK HOPEFULLY WE NEVER HAVE TO USE IT, BUT IT'S THERE IF WE DO AND JUST SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE THE RESTROOMS AND THE LIGHTING AND CERTAINLY THINGS THAT YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED, LIKE THE HEATING AND COOLING THAT'S GOING TO BE MUCH BETTER IN THE BUILDING THAN IT EVER WAS BEFORE.
SO THERE'LL BE MORE PUBLICITY ON THAT THAN OCTOBER THE 30TH FROM ELEVEN TO TWO.
OUR REAL ESTATE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE SENDS OUT A MONTHLY REPORT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY A GOOD DOCUMENT FOR ALL OF US TO FOLLOW THIS GROWTH AND ACTIVITY THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING SO MUCH ABOUT.
IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE IN PRINCE GEORGE WAS TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND THE AVERAGE DAYS ON THE MARKET WAS 16, WHICH WAS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT I BELIEVE JULY WAS.
JULY WAS NINE, BUT STILL, THAT'S PROPERTY IS SWIFTLY MOVING IN BOTH IN ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE THERE HOUSES THAT ARE HAPPENING FOR THOSE THAT LIVE ALONE ROUTE 10, THERE'S A NEW SUBDIVISION GOING IN THERE CALLED CHAPEL CREEK.
THAT'S RIGHT BY BEECHWOOD MANOR, AND THERE'S A MEETING ON OCTOBER THE 13TH HERE IN THE BOARDROOM, IT SAYS IN THE CONN'S BREAK ROOM IN MY REPORT.
BUT I LEARNED LATER THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HERE IN THE BREAK ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO SEE THOSE PLANS.
THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, HOW THE INTERACTION WITH THOSE TWO COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE THAT WILL BE FROM I THINK IT'S FIVE TO 5:30 MS. WALTON? IS SHE IN THE ROOM? OK, SHE MIGHT BE GONE.
I BELIEVE IT'S, IS IT 5:30, 5:30 TO 7?
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OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN THAT, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT TO TO COME AND LOOK AT THOSE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING GOODBYE TO ONE OF OUR LONG TIME CLERGY SUPPORTERS IN THIS ORGANIZATION, JASON CASHING.
JASON IS A PASTOR OF GREGORY CHURCH, AND HE'S ON ASSIGNMENT OR SOON TO BE ON ASSIGNMENT UP IN COOPERSTOWN, NEW YORK.
HE'S BEEN OUR LEAD CHAPLAIN IN THE FIRE AND EMS AREA FOR A WHILE NOW, I BELIEVE.
AND HE JUST DONE A GREAT JOB FOR US AND WE'RE JUST PROUD OF HIM AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT PROGRAM.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT THIS EVENING.
IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MENTION ONE THING, IF I MAY, THE FALL NATIONAL NIGHT OUT HAS BEEN CANCELED.
THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 5TH AND JORDAN ON A JAMES CORRECT? WELL, OR WAS IT EVERYWHERE? EVERYWHERE.
I THINK THEY HAVE ICE CREAM SOCIAL IN...
CEDAR CREEK, I THINK IS STILL HAVING SOMETHING THAT NIGHT.
THAT WAS THE LAST I SAW ON THAT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WEREN'T EXPECTING IT.
AND JUST ONE OTHER ITEM TO ADD.
LONG TIME FARMERS MARKET VENDOR THAT'S BEEN WITH US SINCE THE MARKET PROBABLY FIRST GOT STARTED.
MS. LORI LEBLANC A WEEK AGO SATURDAY, SHE WAS WORKING THE MARKET AND LATER ON SATURDAY NIGHT, SUNDAY MORNING, SHE PASSED AWAY.
AND IT DEFINITELY TOOK ALL OF US BY SURPRISE.
HER TABLE AT THE MARKET NOW HAS A PICTURE OF HER ON THE TABLE.
WE ARE RESERVING THAT TABLE THROUGH THE REST OF THIS MARKET YEAR.
SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF MR. AND MRS. BENDALL TOMMY.
YEAH, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WAS SUCH A SHOCK TO GET AN EMAIL ON THAT, ESPECIALLY I HAD JUST SPOKEN WITH HER ON THAT SATURDAY AND LEFT TO MARKET AND THEN HEARD ABOUT IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC.
NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR POSTPONED ITEMS.
[POSTPONED ITEMS]
FIRST ONE IS T ONE, WHICH IS APPOINTMENTS TO THE YOUTH TASK FORCE.I DO BELIEVE THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING POSTPONING THAT ITEM.
I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT MY CALENDAR HERE.
UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING NEXT MONTH.
SO THAT WOULD BE OCTOBER TWENTY SIX.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THAT UNTIL OCTOBER 26.
SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. HUNTER AND SECOND BY MR. CARMICHAEL THAT THAT ITEM WOULD CONTINUE TO BE TABLED UNTIL OUR OCTOBER 26 BOARD MEETING.
ITEM T2 IS A RESOLUTION TO PROCURE A&E SERVICES FOR WASTEWATER SOLUTION.
THAT IS ALSO AN ITEM THAT'S BEEN TABLED AND MOVED TO VARIOUS SO I GUESS, MR. HALTOM.
YOU'RE RIGHT, YEAH, WE DID HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND, I FAILED TO CARRY IT.
YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, ARE YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MRS. WAYMACK, YES, MR. CARMICHAEL, YES.
MR. HUNTER, YES, MR. WEBB, YES, MR BROWN, YES.
THANK YOU, MR WHITTEN, I DID FAIL TO DO THAT.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, WELL AWARE OF THIS, THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN A APPROACH TO TO THE BOARD SEVERAL TIMES.
AND TONIGHT WE HAVE OR THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THROUGH A MEMO FROM MR. ASHCRAFT.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
WE ALSO DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN OUR SLOT PREVIOUS SLIDES THAT ARE PROVIDED IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK.
BY THIS TIME, I'LL TAKE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO DELIBERATE.
AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO PROCURE AN ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR A WASTEWATER SOLUTION OF YOUR CHOICE, AND YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY FILL IN THE BLANK WITH A RESOLUTION WITH YOUR CHOICE THAT YOU WISH AS THE BOARD CHOOSES.
OK, BOARD MEMBERS ARE THERE ANY CURRENTLY ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR.
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HALTOM? IF NOT, WE'VE ALL RECEIVED PLENTY OF INFORMATION, INCLUDING INFORMATION THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET.THERE WAS SOME FINANCING, POTENTIAL FINANCING OPTIONS, BASICALLY ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT VARIOUS BOARD MEMBERS HAD ASKED.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE NEED TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION FILLING IN WHICH OPTION THAT WE'RE CHOOSING, AND WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE FLOOR TONIGHT.
SO BOARD MEMBERS WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? I'M SORRY, UNLESS THERE'S A BOARD MEMBER THAT HAS SOMETHING THEY WANT TO SAY BEFORE WE, WE DO THAT, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.
ALL RIGHT, SO I JUST NEED TO I NEED A MOTION, PLEASE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
AND THIS IS DIRECTED AT THE WASTE TREATMENT A&E WITH THE DATA THAT'S IN HERE, PLUS THE FINANCIAL POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IN REGARD TO THE FINANCIAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POTENTIAL HARM DOWN THE ROAD.
AND IN ADDITION TO A CLARIFICATION TONIGHT.
THAT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE FLOWS TO SOUTH CENTRAL, WHICH WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST 50 MILLION NOW GRANTED.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN ESTIMATE.
BUT WE KNOW WE'RE SHORT, WE GOT GROWTH GOING ON ON DISTRICT ONE SIDE FOUR 60 AREA DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE WAY PAST THE MARK ON TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP.
AND YOU'RE STILL EVEN WITH THE A&E, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, CORRECT MR. HALTOM? YES, SIR.
AND THAT WILL THAT SHOULD ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DELIBERATING ON THIS.
BUT IT STILL COMES BACK TO THE SAME THING WHAT'S BEST OVERALL? AND I DON'T WANT TO NAME NAMES OR ANY CONCERNS, BUT WE WE'RE BETTER OFF TO CONTROL IT IN OUR OWN DESTINY.
CONTROL THE GROWTH INSIDE OUT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIMITED.
I KNOW A QUESTION WAS ASKED IF SOMEBODY DEFAULTS.
AND POSSIBLY THE STATE COULD COME IN.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT MR. HALTOM.
I ASKED AROUND AND THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT COULD BE THAT IT MAY NOT BE THE STATE COME IN.
OF COURSE WE GO TO WASTE TREATMENT PLANT.
WE GOT WE GOT OPTIONS FOR GRANTS.
WE'VE SEEN IT WITH SOUTH CENTRAL, PETERSBURG AND OTHER PLACES.
THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS IF YOU HAVE A PRIVATE INDUSTRY, COME IN.
SO WE HAD ONE AND WE DEFAULTED AND THE STATE DIDN'T COME IN TO PICK IT UP IN A PRIVATE ENTITY, COME IN AND PICKED IT UP.
THEY WOULD NOT ONLY CONTROL THE COST, BUT THEY CONTROL OUR GROWTH.
ON WHAT WE COULD HAVE AND WHERE WE COULD HAVE IT.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE THAT POINT BECAUSE I DID REACH OUT TO SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ASKING WHAT A POTENTIAL THAT COULD HAPPEN IF X, Y OR Z CAME ABOUT.
I KNOW I'VE SPOKE TO THIS QUITE A BIT.
I HAVE BEEN A PROPONENT OF FROM DAY ONE.
BUT IT'S ALL BASED OFF OF THE TWO ENGINEERING STUDIES.
PEOPLE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALSO TO FINANCIAL, AND I STILL STAND TALL WITH THAT.
OK, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WELL, BOARD MEMBERS, I WILL PERSONALLY SECOND THAT MOTION, BY ME SECONDING THAT MOTION.
MRS. WAYMACK, I WILL TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO YOU TO PRESIDE OVER THIS ITEM, ASSUMING THAT I AM MAKING THE SECOND TO THAT MOTION.
CALL THE ROLL MRS. KNOTT PLEASE.
MR. CARMICHAEL, NO, MR. HUNTER, NO.
MR. WEBB, YES, MR. BROWN, YES, MRS. WAYMACK, NO .
BOARD MEMBERS, THAT MOTION WAS DEFEATED.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? DOESN'T THAT GIVE HIM THE DIRECTION TO GO THEN IF HE'S NOT GOING TO GO? NO, HE NEEDS THIS IN THE FORM OF THIS RESOLUTION.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GO THE OTHER ROUTE, THEN WE NEED TO STATE THAT AND THEN CARRY THE VOTE.
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT MR. WHITTEN? .
THAT'S CORRECT, THE VOTE WOULD NEED TO BE FOR THE RESOLUTION FOR THE PUMP STATION [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT WOULD BE CORRECT CORRECT.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. HUNTER AND SECOND BY MR. CARMICHAEL THAT THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE MOVING TO THE HOPEWELL AND THE PUMP
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STATION.YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION, YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. HUNTER, YES, MR. WEBB.
NO, MR. BROWN, NO, MRS. WAYMACK, YES.
THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS ITEM A FOUR UNDER ORDER OF BUSINESS.
[ORDER OF BUSINESS (Part 2 of 2)]
THIS IS AN AWARD OF AN ANNUAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS OF WATER STORAGE TANKS.THIS IS IN TAB 13 IN YOUR BOOK? THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
YES, SIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AND THIS IS A CONTRACT TO AWARD ANNUAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS TO OUR SOME OF OUR MOST VITAL ASSETS, WHICH IS OUR ELEVATED WATER STORAGE TANKS.
LAST YEAR WE'VE HAD OUR ALL OF OUR TANKS INSPECTED.
THAT WAS DONE BY UTILITY SERVICES INC, ALSO KNOWN AS SUEZ.
AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO AND A REPORT SAYS THREE.
WE HAVE A THIRD READY TO BE REPAIRED AND MAINTAINED LATER THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
THAT'S THE FOOD LINE STORES TANK.
BUT AT THIS POINT, SAWMILL AND MIDDLE ROAD TANKS BOTH HAVE BEEN INTERNALLY REPAIRED AND RESEALED AND REPAINTED.
AND THIS CONTRACT ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL OF OUR TANKS TO BE REPAIRED AND MAINTAINED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WITHOUT HAVING TO COMPETE WITH OTHER FUNDS BY ALLOWING US TO SPREAD THOSE COSTS THROUGH OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY OUT OF THE AVAILABLE FUNDS EACH SINGLE YEAR.
SO THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE SEPARATED OUT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL TANK.
AS YOU SEE LISTED IN THE REPORT, [INAUDIBLE] THE SIX INDIVIDUAL TANKS, YOU SEE THE COST THERE FOR EACH ONE.
BUT THE TOTAL COST FOR ALL OF THOSE TANKS TO BE MAINTAINED OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD IS ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS, WHICH WOULD BE SPREAD OUT AGAIN OVER THOSE FIVE YEARS FOR AN ANNUAL COST OF TWO HUNDRED FORTY FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED TEN DOLLARS.
THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE USED BE USING THE OPERATIVE LANGUAGE FROM THE CITY OF MANASSAS SERVICE CONTRACTS FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THEIR WATER STORAGE TANKS.
AND AGAIN, ANY AWARD OF CONTRACTS OVER $50000 THAT'S REQUIRED TO COME TO THE BOARD.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE ORDER OF THESE CONTRACTS TO UTILITY SERVICES INC FOR THAT COST OF ANNUAL COST OF $244110.
BOARD MEMBERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HOLTOM ON THIS AWARD OF CONTRACT? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, PLEASE.
OK YEAH, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED BY MR. WEBB AND SECOND BY MR. HUNTER THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE AWARD OF THIS CONTRACT.
BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.
YOU'RE READY FOR THE QUESTION.
MRS. KNOTT WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. WEBB, YES, MR. BROWN, YES, MRS. WAYMACK, YES, MR. CARMICHAEL, YES.
DID SHE NOT, I THOUGHT MS. OH, SHE WAS HOPING OK.
[REPORTS]
I KNOW I WAS HOPING TO GET THAT IN.WE HAVE TO GET THE QUARTERLY REPORT.
SHE SAID IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, Y'ALL HAVE FUN.
SHE WAS READY FOR ME TO GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN, AND SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY, BUT NOT THAT EASY.
SHE HAD THAT MASK PULL WAY UP SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE EYE CONTACT.
I HAVE GOOD NEWS TO SHARE, SO I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO GIVE YOU GOOD NEWS AND I'LL MOVE THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY.
I DID LEAVE A HARD COPY AT YOUR PLACES, AND AS YOU READ THROUGH IT AT YOUR LEISURE, PLEASE REACH OUT WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
BUT AGAIN, I'M PLEASED TO PROVIDE THE PRELIMINARY JUNE 30TH QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT .
REVENUES, WE'LL START WITH OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES.
WE ARE, WE COLLECTED MORE THAN WE BUDGETED TWO POINT THIRTY SEVEN PERCENT MORE OR ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS MORE.
WE'D ACTUALLY PLAN TO USE TWO POINT THREE MILLION IN FUND BALANCE AND GUESS WHAT? WE DID NOT USE ANY OF FUND BALANCE.
WE SURPASSED REVENUE COLLECTIONS.
EVEN EVEN WITH THAT $2.3 MILLION APPROPRIATION OF FUND BALANCE, MOST OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES EXCEEDED BUDGETED LEVELS CATEGORY BY CATEGORY.
THERE WERE A FEW THAT FELL A LITTLE SHORT INTEREST REVENUES.
OF COURSE, INTEREST RATES HAVE TAKEN A DIVE.
SO THOSE WERE AND THE AND A BAD WAY, BUT THE REST CAME IN PRETTY WELL.
JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD AGAIN, I DID MENTION THAT WE HAD PLANNED ON USING TWO POINT THREE MILLION THROUGHOUT FY TWENTY ONE.
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MOST RELATED TO A SCHOOL CARRYOVER.BUT THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR TRADITIONAL PO CARRYOVER AND GRAND DONATION.
I JUST BROUGHT YOU THE FY 22 OF RE- APPROPRIATIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT WE DID NOT NEED THOSE.
WE DID NOT NEED TO USE FUND BALANCE.
EXPENSES, WE UNDERSPENT BY OVER $2 MILLION ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SIDE.
AND THAT'S NOT CONSIDERING THE REDUCTION THAT WILL MAKE IN THE SCHOOL TRANSFER FOR THEIR SAVINGS.
SO AGAIN, WE COLLECTED MORE AND UNDERSPENT.
SO WE ARE GOING TO ADD JUST ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SIDE, THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TO FUND BALANCE REVENUES EXCEEDED TO FUND OUR EXPENDITURES BY THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
WE HAVE ASKED YOU TO RE-APPROPRIATE ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND FOR PURCHASE ORDERS AND GRANTS ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SIDE.
SO REALLY UNRESERVED, COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDING ABOUT TWO POINT EIGHT MILLION, THE SCHOOLS WILL ADD ANOTHER ONE POINT FIVE MILLION TO FUND BALANCE, BUT THEY'VE ALSO ASKED FOR A PO CARRYOVER OF THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY COME ASK FOR THE REST OF THAT TO THE ONE POINT ONE NINE MILLION.
SO, SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS, WE ARE GOING TO ADD TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
OUR AUDITED JUNE 30TH 20 20 FUND BALANCE WAS TWENTY EIGHT POINT THREE MILLION, WHICH REPRESENTED TWENTY SIX POINT FOUR PERCENT OF EXPENDITURES.
AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO ADD ABOUT THREE POINT FIVE MILLION.
WE'RE RESERVING FOR PURCHASE ORDERS AND KARI GRANT DONATION CARRY OVER SEVEN POINT FORTY NINE SCHOOLS.
REVENUES EXCEEDED EXPENDITURES BY ONE POINT FIVE MILLION.
THEY'VE ASKED FOR THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND TO BE RE-APPROPRIATED FOR PURCHASE ORDERS.
SO ABOUT THIRTY TWO POINT THREE IS THE FUND BALANCE BEFORE THE SCHOOL COMES TO YOU AND ASKS FOR THEIR CARRYOVER.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO BACK IN MARCH ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROJECT.
YOU KNOW THAT THE PROJECT ITSELF WAS ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS SHORT.
THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CARRYOVER RE-APPROPRIATED, MAYBE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
WELL, THEY COULD CERTAINLY SATISFY IT IN ONE YEAR, BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL BE MAKING THEIR REQUEST TO YOU WHEN THEIR NUMBERS ARE FINAL.
SO AGAIN, NET OF THAT SCHOOL OVER.
YOU'VE GOT ABOUT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF BUDGETED EXPENDITURES IN YOUR FUND BALANCE.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS.
I DON'T EXPECT THAT THEY'LL MATERIALLY CHANGE, BUT WE DO.
I DID ACTUALLY RECEIVE AN ELECTRONIC DEPOSIT TODAY.
THE TREASURER'S OFFICE ALERTED ME TO ABOUT $5400 MORE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BOOK BACK TO LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE AN OPEN WORKERS COMP AUDIT THAT COULD RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL INVOICE.
HOPEFULLY, IT'LL RESULT IN A REFUND AND WE MAY FIND SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE TO.
WE MAY HAVE A FEW MORE INVOICES THAT CREEP IN CREEP THROUGH THE DOOR THAT WE HAVE TO POST BACK TO LAST YEAR.
BUT AGAIN, IN TERMS OF NUMBERS, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT PERCENT OF EXPENDITURES.
YOU KNOW, BY OUR POLICY REQUIREMENT, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN TWELVE AND A HALF PERCENT OF BUDGETED EXPENDITURES AND FUND BALANCE.
SO THAT TARGET IS REALLY SIXTEEN POINT ONE MILLION.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 15 MILLION MORE THAN THAT NET OF THE SCHOOL CARRYOVER AFTER CONSIDERING THAT IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT 15 PERCENT LEVEL, THE TARGET IS NINETEEN POINT THREE MILLION.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT ELEVEN POINT SEVEN MORE THAN THAT IN YOUR FUND BALANCE, PRELIMINARILY.
NO, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PUT MONEY FORWARD WITH WHAT WE GOT COMING.
OK, SO THAT'S JUST PRELIMINARILY, SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS.
UM SOME NOTABLE ITEMS IN REVENUE, I'LL MOVE THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.
WE WERE PRETTY MUCH ON TARGET WITH OUR REAL ESTATE TAX PROJECTION.
WE WERE WITHIN ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS OF A TWENTY FIVE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLAR ESTIMATE.
AGAIN, WE DID INCREASE THE FY 22 BUDGET BECAUSE WE DID HAVE SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT RESULTED IN SOME GROWTH.
OF COURSE, WE STARTED DOING OUR PRELIMINARY TESTING ON THE LAND BOOK YESTERDAY.
I THINK WE WORKED OUT SOME BUGS OR AT LEAST MS. LANE AND CASEY WILLIAMS. AND ACTUALLY, MR. COMPTON HELPED US A LITTLE BIT WORK OUT SOME BUGS WITH THE LAND BOOK WITH SOME PROGRAMING ISSUES.
SO WE ARE HOPEFULLY ON TASKS TO GET OUR REAL ESTATE BILLS PREPARED ONE TIME.
WE'LL AGAIN MONITOR COLLECTIONS LIKE WE ALWAYS DO, AND A KEY DATE WILL BE
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THE FIRST, THE SECOND QUARTERLY REPORT FIRST HALF IS DUE ON DECEMBER 5TH.SOME OTHER NOTABLE ITEMS WE EXCEEDED OUR BUDGETED TARGETS AND PERSONAL PROPERTY, WE ARE LIKE SHOOTING AT A MOVING TARGET WITH THAT.
WE ACTUALLY EXCEEDED OUR BUDGET BY 20 PERCENT.
WE DID UPTICK THE BUDGET, BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED.
WE'RE KIND OF FLYING IN THE DARK.
WE'RE TRYING TO PREPARE A BUDGET WHEN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT YEAR NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE.
PUBLIC SERVICE TAXES WE ALSO COLLECTED MORE THAN WE BUDGETED AND STATE SALES TAX.
MY COLLEAGUES AND I ARE ALL WORRIED THAT ONE DAY SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAY, THAT'S REALLY NOT ALL YOUR MONEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BACK BECAUSE ITS GROWTH HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.
WE COLLECTED FIFTY TWO PERCENT MORE THAN WE BUDGETED AND STATE SALES TAX, AND ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE STATE THAT I'VE TALKED WITH ARE EXPERIENCING THAT.
WE DID UP TICKET FOR FY TWENTY TWO, BUT AGAIN, NOT TO THE LEVEL THAT WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED IN TWENTY ONE SO THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THAT PROJECTION FOR TWENTY THREE.
BUSINESS LICENSES, WE ALSO COLLECTED MORE THAN WE TARGETED.
SAME WITH LODGING TAX AND SAME WITH OUR MOBILE HOME TAX.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO FINE TUNE THOSE WITHOUT INCREASING RATES AND ADJUST OUR REVENUES UPWARD.
AGAIN, THE BOARD EXTENDED NOT THE DEADLINE, BUT YOU WAIVED PENALTY AND INTEREST THROUGH AUGUST WHEN YOUR REAL PROPERTY AND PERSONAL PROPERTY COLLECTIONS.
HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT LAST SUMMER OR ACTUALLY SUMMER BEFORE LAST.
BUT THIS PAST SUMMER, NOT AS MANY TOOK ADVANTAGE.
SO AGAIN, PEOPLE APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION IF THEY NEED IT.
BUT IT WAS NOT UTILIZED TO THE EXTENT IT WAS IN 2020.
WHERE WE FELL SHORT? WE DID HAVE SOME REVENUES THAT WE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED SHORTFALL.
OUR EMS TRANSPORT FEES AGAIN, OUR CALL VOLUME CONTINUES TO BE BELOW PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS.
EVEN THOUGH WE DID OUR OR THE BOARD APPROVED A RATE INCREASE JULY ONE OF TWENTY NINETEEN FOR FY 2020.
OUR COLLECTIONS ARE STILL DOWN.
RECREATION FEES ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS THAT HAD TO BE CANCELED DURING THE PANDEMIC.
INTEREST RATES DROPPED, SO OUR INTEREST REVENUE IS DOWN AND THEN PENALTY AND INTEREST IS ALSO FELL SHORT WITH THE WAIVER OR EXTENSION THROUGH AUGUST 31 IN BOTH CALENDAR YEARS, THAT DOES IMPOSE PENALTY AND INTEREST COLLECTIONS.
UTILITIES, THE END OF THE YEAR OR EXPECTED TO END THE YEAR WITH AN OPERATING INCOME.
WE HAVE NOT POSTED DEPRECIATION YET.
THOSE ENTRIES ARE STILL IN DEVELOPMENT AND WE WILL BE JOURNALING OUR CAPITAL COSTS TO ASSET LINES AND POSTING DEPRECIATION.
SO AGAIN, WE ENDED THE YEAR ON THE BLACK ON A CASH BASIS, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME ENTRIES TO MAKE, SAME WITH CAPITAL WE HAVE AN OPERATING OR NON-OPERATING INCOME AS WELL.
SO UTILITIES OPERATIONS WERE HEALTHY DESPITE THE PANDEMIC.
CAPITAL PROJECTS, THIS SLIDE JUST SUMMARIZES OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER RECENTLY COMPLETED OR IN THE WORKS.
OF COURSE, THE LARGEST IS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO PROJECT.
YOU'LL PROBABLY BE GETTING AN UPDATE ON THAT SOMETIME IN A FUTURE MEETING.
BUT THE DDR HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THAT PROJECT IS PROGRESSING.
THIS CDCC SOFTWARE REPLACEMENT IS COMPLETE.
WE MAY BE BRINGING TO YOU A REQUEST TO APPROPRIATE JUST A LITTLE OVER THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS OF SNAP INTEREST TO TO COVER THAT SMALL DEFICIT.
MR. HALTOM AIMS TO EXTENSION PROJECTS OR PROGRESSING.
THE ASSESSOR SOFTWARE REPLACEMENT IS PROGRESSING, AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CALIBRATING THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE NEW VISION SOFTWARE.
THE COOL WORD LANE, I BELIEVE MS. WALTON SAID THAT VDOT IS NEARLY COMPLETE WITH THAT PROJECT.
AND THEN OUR IT SERVER ROOM COOLING TOWER.
WE BROUGHT A REQUEST FORWARD TO YOU TO APPROPRIATE SOME SNAP INTEREST TO REPLACE SOME CONDENSER PUMPS, SO MR. SIMMONS IS WORKING ON THAT.
THE ITEMS AT THE BOTTOM THAT ARE SHADED IN THE PURPLISH LOOKING COLOR ARE RELATE TO
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YOUR SERIES 2019 BONDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY BORROWED TO CONSTRUCT A NEW JEFFERSON PARK FIRE STATION.YOU HAVE APPROPRIATED SOME MONEY OR WE DID SPEND SOME MONEY FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT PROJECT THAT WE WILL NOT UTILIZE.
THEN YOU APPROPRIATED FUNDS FOR THE CREW, BUILDING ELECTRICAL UPGRADES, AS WELL AS THE JEFFERSON PARK FIRE STATION RENOVATIONS, SO THOSE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING FIRMS ARE COMPLETING THAT WORK.
THE DESIGN IS ALSO ONGOING FOR THE COUNTY GARAGE EXPANSION.
SCHOOL PROJECTS, THERE ARE NO MATERIAL CHANGES FROM THE LAST QUARTER.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SMALL BALANCES THAT MS. BARNES INDICATED THAT THEY ARE RECONCILING AND THEY MAY BE BRINGING FORWARD A REQUEST TO YOU TO TRANSFER SOME OF THOSE SMALL BALANCES TO OTHER PROJECTS.
BUT AGAIN, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS PROGRESSING.
WE RECENTLY DID A SNAP DRAW OF OVER $4 MILLION FOR THOSE BONDS, SO THAT PROJECT IS PROGRESSING.
PENNYCUFF CAME AND GAVE YOU A PRESENTATION, BUT THERE ARE NO CHANGE ORDERS WITH THE PAYOFFS THAT I HAVE SEEN.
TOURISM, TOURISM ENDED IN THE BLACK, IF YOU WILL.
REVENUES WERE SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE, NEARLY SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX THOUSAND AND EXPENDITURES WERE JUST AROUND 411.
SO FAVORABLE REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES OF ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO AGAIN, WE WILL ADD TO THAT FUND BALANCE.
THE FUND BALANCE ON JUNE 30TH OF 2020 WAS 89000 ON JUNE 30TH OF 2021, IT'S ESTIMATED TO BE THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALSO INTO THE YEAR AND THE BLACK, DESPITE HAVING TO REPAY A COMMONWEALTH OPPORTUNITY GRANT OF TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND, SO ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO THOUSAND REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES, OUR MILLS TAX DID EXCEED THE BUDGET BY THIRTY FOUR PERCENT.
SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS OUR FUN BALANCE ON JUNE 30TH OF 2020 WAS NINE HUNDRED TO ABOUT NINE HUNDRED AND THREE AND TWO HUNDRED OF THAT, OF COURSE, WAS RESERVED FOR THAT COMMONWEALTH OPPORTUNITY GRANT AT JUNE 30TH OF 2021.
YOU'LL HAVE OVER A MILLION IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND BALANCE.
I BELIEVE THE BOARD HAS CONSIDERED TWO COMMONWEALTH OPPORTUNITY FUND GRANT MATCHES THAT TOTAL ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY, SO UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE WILL BE SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY FIVE THOUSAND.
PROFFERS, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO ACTIVITY AND PROFFERS FOR FY TWENTY ONE, WE ARE HOPEFUL TO GET SOME ACTIVITY IN FY TWENTY TWO, MAYBE RELATED TO SOME OF THE SOLAR PROJECTS, BUT NO CHANGES.
YOU HAVE ONE HUNDRED 100 THOUSAND DOLLARS AND CERTAINLY YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO USE THOSE IN LIEU OF ISSUING DEBT FOR SMALL INITIATIVES.
AH, THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERA PROGRAM THAT THAT WAS NOT A VERY GOOD YEAR TO BE EXPECTED? THERE WERE FEWER BUSSES ON THE ROAD WITH VIRTUAL LEARNING COLLECTIONS WERE UNDER $4000.
THAT IS THE LOWEST YEAR ON RECORD SINCE THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
PEOPLE DON'T PAY US AND SCHOOL BUSSES, CORRECT? AND THE GOAL IS NOT TO COLLECT MONEY, IT'S ABOUT STUDENT SAFETY, IT'S A DETERRENT.
HEALTH INSURANCE FUND, HEALTH INSURANCE FUND BALANCE IS JUST OVER TWO POINT NINE MILLION ON JUNE 30TH OF 2021, THIS IS A SLIGHT DECREASE FROM OUR JUNE 30TH OF 2020 FUND BALANCE OF THREE POINT ONE FOUR.
UM PREMIUMS COLLECTED FELL SHORT OF CLAIMS BY A LITTLE OVER TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND, THE SCHOOL DIVISION HAD CLAIMS THAT EXCEEDED PREMIUMS BY ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND.
WE WERE IN THE BLACK ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SIDE, ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY THOUSAND PREMIUMS TO CLAIMS. AGAIN, THAT HAS BEEN REVERSED AND IN SOME YEARS, SOME YEARS, YOU HAVE BAD YEARS, SOME YEARS YOU HAVE GOOD YEARS.
AND I BELIEVE THE SCHOOL DIVISION DID INCREASE THEIR PREMIUMS FOR FY TWENTY TWO, SO HOPEFULLY THEIR PREMIUMS WILL COVER CLAIMS IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS AT THE BOTTOM IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE FUND BALANCE TWO POINT NINETY TWO MILLION COUNTY HAS ABOUT FORTY FIVE PERCENT AND THEN THE SCHOOL DIVISION ABOUT FIFTY FIVE PERCENT.
THE SCHOOLS REPRESENT ABOUT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE MEMBERSHIP AND THE COUNTY ABOUT TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.
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SO LOOKING AHEAD, WE ARE STILL MAKING A NUMBER OF JOURNAL ENTRIES, BOTH ON THE OPERATING GENERAL FUND AND UTILITIES SIDE, OUR REVENUE ACCRUALS ARE BEING FINE TUNED.AS I MENTIONED, WE GOT $5400 TODAY THAT I'M GOING TO POST BACK TO FY TWENTY ONE.
WE MAY HAVE SOME EXPENDITURE ADJUSTMENTS.
WORKER'S COMP AUDIT IS STILL PENDING AND OUR FINAL AUDIT WORK IS SCHEDULED FOR THE LAST FULL WEEK OF OCTOBER.
OUR AQUIFER PREPARATION IS TARGETED FOR COMPLETION, OF COURSE.
BY NOVEMBER 30TH, THE STATUTE DID CHANGE TO DECEMBER 15TH, BUT OUR AUDIT FIRM DOES PLAN TO PROVIDE THAT REPORT TO YOU AT YOUR DECEMBER MEETING, SO IT WILL BE DONE BEFORE DECEMBER 15TH.
WE WILL CERTAINLY, AS ALWAYS, MONITOR OUR CURRENT YEAR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, AND WE ARE GEARING UP TO PREPARE THE FY 2023 BUDGET.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I WAS PLEASED TO GIVE YOU GOOD NEWS TONIGHT.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DRURY? GREAT JOB, AS ALWAYS.
THANK YOU AND I CANNOT TAKE CREDIT, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, IT STARTS CERTAINLY WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THAT OF MR. ASHCRAFT AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
BOARD MEMBERS I THINK WE'VE COVERED ALL OF OUR BOARD AGENDA ITEMS FOR TONIGHT.
IF EVERYONE IS PLEASED THAT WE HAVE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO OCTOBER THE 12TH.
AND I HAVE, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. HUNTER.
IT'S BEEN SICKENED BY MRS. WAYMACK THAT WE WOULD ADJOURN TO OUR OCTOBER 12TH BOARD MEETING AT 5:00 P.M.
MRS. KNOTT, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. WEBB YES, MR. HUNTER.
MEETING ADJOURNED.
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